Peel and 6 Music?

[bty455834]

I see your point , but just like peel's show they will be put on at some middle of the night spot- under the term specialest music.

i think the refrance to peel come from their commitment to new music ,free plays and eclectic tastes (who else is playing can at 2 oclock in the afternoon)

i have no problem easing listeners in with a daytime selection...
as peel once said "just get the tunes out"




  
--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>
> I do find myself confounded by some of the online hand-wringing I've seen
> over this (and yes the constant invocation of Peel's ghost is also annoying)
> 
> Prior to the closure announcement you could ask anyone in a band and I'm
> sure they'd tell you that a 6music play or a 6music session held nowhere
> near the kudos of a play/session on Radio 1 (The PRS payments back this up
> too!) because at the end of the day you knew you were on a DAB-only station
> with a limited audience. On top of that you stood even less chance of
> standing out amongst the droves of indie hopefuls who filled the 6music 24x7
> program.
> 
> Now the majority voice seems to be suggesting the closure is some sort of
> strangulation of the life blood of the independent music sector, but if the
> worst that happens is that we have to suffer a few less mediocre bands then
> I can live with that!
> 
> The key thing is that the BBC do come good on their promise to shift the
> best of the 6music shows/DJ's to the main FM stations.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Eddie Duffy <eddie.duffy@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I like a lot of 6music's output, and I'm annoyed it's closing, especially
> > given that the reasons given for its closure are so contradictory and
> > illogical. But the invocation of Peel's name in the BBC Have Your Say
> > threads did get a bit much. Myself, I reckon Peel's attitude would have been
> > similar to his comments about certain records: "more of a Mark Goodier band,
> > that", or "one for Janice, I think".
> >
> > Eddie.
> >
> >
> > On 05/03/10 11:57, ken_garner wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Jan and Colin, your thinking is precisely the motivation for my
> > question. I would be far happier if there were actual evidence one could
> > cite of his position.
> >
> > My own feeling for what it's worth, is that John would probably express
> > disappointment but not in such terms as to endanger his relationship with
> > his employers, and express a hope that reasonable consultation might find a
> > solution.
> >
> > I also dispute some of the claims going around casually that 6 Music
> > somehow "REPRESENTS" his approach. Some of the programmes do, but not all.
> > Very few are as wide ranging as his. How often does any daytime show on 6
> > Music play reggae, rap, happy hardcore, forgotten pop & R&B hits from the
> > 50s, even a 78?
> >
> > I can understand people using this as a stick implicitly to beat up Radio
> > 1's increasing failure to live up to Peel's legacy, but that does not
> > necessarily mean it's factually accurate.
> >
> > In fact, I seem to recall when 6 Music launched I gave it a right kicking
> > in the sunday express because the line up, the format, the address, was
> > exactly Radio 1 evening show 1988: nice middle class white boys and girls
> > playing not quite good enough indie.
> >
> > More trickily for those of us who genuinely would like 6 Music to continue,
> > whatever our criticisms, I suspect he and Walters, admittedly coming from a
> > different broadcast environment age and context, might argue, as they often
> > did, is that actually what matters is securing a guaranteed place for their
> > approach within the mainstream main channel(s), ie Radio 1 and 2.
> >
> > This is sort of what the BBC paper argues, that some of 6's best shows
> > could be found homes on 1 and 2.
> >
> > But when Mark Reilly, the Freakzone and Craig Charles' R and B show
> > (arguably 3 of 6 Music's strongest items) are given fixed slots on radios 1
> > or 2, well, I'll believe it when it happens, frankly
> >
> > ken
> >
> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com <peel%40yahoogroups.com>, Jan Buxton
> > <janbuxton@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Its OK Colin, I'm a massive supporter of 6Music but I'm also
> > uncomfortable
> > > with the use of Peel references. John Peel was 2 hours of records not
> > > usually played elsewhere, mostly new, and he had his own likes and
> > dislikes,
> > > human imperfections etc. 6Music is in many ways more ambitious in scope,
> > in
> > > actually attempting to have a 24/7 station that just plays good music.
> > > Within that new music, old music that doesn't get played anymore, and
> > some
> > > that does, weird music, genre music, straightahead music. From giving
> > even
> > > massive bands like Radiohead (btw I will never forgive JP for being
> > unmoved
> > > by there Glasto 97 performance) play next time they release a record (I
> > > question how much interest R1 and R2 will have), to the newbies like
> > Ellie
> > > Goulding etc. From Daytime to the Freak Zone. And 6Music isn't perfect
> > but
> > > its a radio station I can switch on and listen to all day without turning
> > > off. But it isn't John Peel, I probably couldn't listen to him all day
> > after
> > > all.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan
> > > http://janb1982.blogspot.com/
> > > http://rateyourmusic.com/~janb <http://rateyourmusic.com/%7Ejanb>
> > > http://twitter.com/janlbuxton
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5 March 2010 07:41, colin bray <colinbray@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't know the answer, Ken, but without wishing to get into an
> > argument
> > > > with those who think the ending of 6 Music is an 'affront to the memory
> > of
> > > > Peel' I always worry about a deceased person being cited ie 'it's what
> > he
> > > > would have wanted.'
> > > >
> > > > It feels like the name of Peel is being played to give legitimacy to an
> > > > argument and I don't think he would have liked that*. 6 Music may
> > indeed be
> > > > an excellent station but it doesn't seek to replicate Peel's
> > philosophy. In
> > > > my opinion the nearest we have to Peel's show is Dandelion and even
> > that is
> > > > obviously very different to what he was doing.
> > > >
> > > > As I say, not picking a fight with anybody and not seeking to
> > appropriate
> > > > Ken's question but this has been nagging at me for a few days and I
> > needed
> > > > to say something.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > > Colin.
> > > >
> > > > * I know, I know, this is akin to using his name to give legitimacy to
> > my
> > > > argument
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > From: ken_garner@
> > > > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:56:21 +0000
> > > > Subject: [peel] Peel and 6 Music?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A number of people have been citing Peel as part of the protest over 6
> > > > Music's (possible) fate. I wonder if anyone here can tell us if he ever
> > made
> > > > any comment on air about it, in the last 2 years of his programme, or
> > its
> > > > shows and presenters, positive or otherwise? Might be useful to have
> > actual
> > > > evidence. Just a thought. It is just possible he mentioned it in one of
> > his
> > > > last Radio Times columns, which I think ended sometime in 2002, but my
> > > > collection of these is incomplete and hopelessly out of sequence...
> > > > - ken
> > > >
> > > >
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