1986/87 Festive 50s and Ken's Book

[andrewthezmore]

Ken

not sure if you mean me ( i've upped the Milk/Hole show and various 
F50s in the past) but I wasn't sure what the problem/puzzle was? 
Haven't got the 1990FF tapes to hand but can check at the weekend if 
there is a query?


If not me you referred to, many apologies for butting in

Cheers
Andrew 
--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" <ken_garner@...> wrote:
>
> Quite right, sir. It seems churlish to point this out on Andrew's 
astonishing site and 
> collection, but something has gone wrong there. Footling around a 
bit further, I spotted 
> that what is labelled as the first part of the show of 22/12/91 is 
actually the opening of 
> the show of 5/1/92. Sorry. Can anyone help Andrew fix that?
> 
> Yes, and that is indeed my mistake on the FF shows of 86. I'll look 
that up in Radio Times 
> next time i'm in the Mitchell library. And thanks to Steve we now 
know the F50 and alltime 
> F50 of 82 started a show earlier than I thought...
> 
> ...As I think I said here some time ago, at going to press time I 
was worried about space, 
> and seeing as it was broadcast dates for new sessions that mattered 
most, I edited down 
> what details I then had (culled mostly from repeat dates on session 
sheets and checking of 
> some years, but not all, wiht Radio Times) about the 'best of'/F50 
shows to a summary 
> statement. But over the past year or so, helped by various persons 
here gathered - nods 
> to Brian, Jon, Paul, Steve, Steve and others - I've been revising, 
expanding back my shows 
> index to try and get all those end of year show details complete, 
and am getting there, 
> slowly but surely. I think we're now certain that the very last 
year which featured multiple 
> 'best sessions of the year' repeats over the festive season was 
1992, yes?
> 
> However, one problem likely to remain unsolved for now, is this one:
> 
> Sn 23/12/90 (Prophecy of Doom, plus 2 others unknown) F50 38-27
> 
> listening to Andrew's files, it's clear Peel played records that 
night first, then the F50, then 
> 3 sessions in a row in the last hour - I guess so he could pre-tape 
it and get off early, 
> maybe? - but unsurprisingly those who were taping for the F50 
stopped after the end of 
> the countdown for that night, and missed the sessions. I suspect 
this one will require a 
> visit to BBC Written Archives one day,
> 
> k
> 
> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "alanforduk" <alan@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I have downloaded the full sets of 5 shows each for the 1986/87 
F50s 
> > from 
> > http://www.30242b.net/JP_FF_index.html
> > and have discovered that shows named 
> > 
> > JP861224a/b.mp3
> > and
> > JP871224a/b.mp3
> > 
> > are the wrong way round; 
> > 
> > 
> > Also, for both years the shows are dated 22,23,24,29,30 December
> > 
> > In those days John's shows were Mon, Tue, Wed.
> > Ken's book only lists these F50 shows as a range of dates, thus
> > 
> > 1986
> > M 22/12 - W 31/12 [ie 22,23,24,29,30,31 - 6 days]
> > 
> > 1987
> > T 22/12 - W 30/12 [ie 22,23,28,29,30 - 5 days]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Therefore the middle show for 1987 should be dated 28th not 24th.
> > This is borne out here
> > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1987
> > 
> > 
> > and for 1986
> > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1986
> > concurs with /www.30242b.net/
> > 
> > 
> > All this means that 
> > JP871224a/b.mp3 should be called 
> > JP861224a/b.mp3 (ie wrong year)
> > 
> > 
> > and
> > JP861224a/b.mp3 should be called 
> > JP871228a/b.mp3 (wrong day and year).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This also means that Ken is wrong to list 31/12/86 as a F50 show.
> > Indeed, at the end of 30/12/86 John says "tomorrow night, of 
course, 
> > it's Janice and John's New Year's Eve Special between 7.30 and 
9.00"
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Sherlock Ford
> >
>