[peel] Tom In Atlanta No More - but still has 300 tapes.

RobF robfleay@...
Sat Dec 10 22:21:36 CET 2016


Apologies for the radio silence on the Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes
ripping service. I took a short break due to my summer holiday and then
never quite got back on top of life

Now that I'm winding down for Xmas, I've got a bit more time on my hands,
so hopefully I'll get a fair few more ripped and shared over the next few
weeks.

This batch covers the tapes TR026 - TR035

As last time - uploaded to Mooo in  this folder
Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Mooo Folder
<http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/Tom%20Roche%20BBC%20World%20Service%20Tapes/>

The master wiki page for the tape box is here
Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Wiki Page
<http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Roche_BBC_World_Service_Tapes>

Nearly all new shares, a couple have been previously shared via the Max-DAT
tapes (marked with a *), but the files are no longer on the Mooo so I can't
compare the quality
One of the tapes in this batch (TR031) had no Peel content despite the
promising inlay and TR033 had a duplicate of a show on TR030 in much worse
quality, so maybe Tom had an alternate source.
A few Multitrack/Top 20 shows in there too, and a couple of Andy Kershaws
but I won't share these unless anyone specifically requests them.

1989-10-09 John Peel BBC World Service TR026
1991-08-12 John Peel BBC World Service TR027
1991-08-19 John Peel BBC World Service TR027
1991-05-13 John Peel BBC World Service TR028
1991-05-20 John Peel BBC World Service TR028
1993-06-14 John Peel BBC World Service TR029
1993-08-10 John Peel BBC World Service TR030
1993-06-07 John Peel BBC World Service TR032
1994-03-05 John Peel BBC World Service TR034
1994-09-12 John Peel BBC World Service TR034
1994-10-10 John Peel BBC World Service TR034

And finally a mystery - TR035 contains 3 shows from Oct/Nov/Dec 1994

1994-10-15 John Peel BBC World Service TR035*
1994-11-19 John Peel BBC World Service TR035*
1994-12-19 John Peel BBC World Service TR035

All 3 of these appeared to be already shared via the Max-DAT tapes, and the
tracklisting/descriptions match up perfectly for the first two, but the 3rd
one seems to be an entirely different show to the one on the wiki labelled
17 December 1994. I thought it may have been mislabelled by Tom, but the
news bulletin at the end dates it exactly to 19 December. Even more strange
is that John is audibly excited about playing the Fall Christmas Carols
session on the World Service the following week - yet the Max-DAT show on
the wiki for 24 December 1994 doesn't include any Fall tracks at all. Any
theories welcome (the Max-DAT files in question aren't on the Mooo so I
can't check them out.)








On 16 August 2016 at 17:31, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:

> A further 5 BBC World Service tapes (TR021-TR025) to keep you going until
> I get back from holiday and resume ripping
>
> As last time - uploaded to Mooo in  this folder
> Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Mooo Folder
> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/Tom%20Roche%20BBC%20World%20Service%20Tapes/>
>
> The master wiki page for the tape box is here
> Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Wiki Page
> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Roche_BBC_World_Service_Tapes>
>
> The next 5 tapes cover:
> 1990-11-05 John Peel BBC World Service TR021
> 1992-06-29 John Peel BBC World Service TR021
> 1991-05-25 John Peel BBC World Service TR022
> 1991-06-03 John Peel BBC World Service TR023
> 1991-06-10 John Peel BBC World Service TR023
> 1991-06-24 John Peel BBC World Service TR024
> 1991-07-01 John Peel BBC World Service TR024
> 1992-01-20 John Peel BBC World Service TR025
>
> Both 1991 shows on TR024 have been shared before - not sure who ripped
> them or what the source was, both mediafire links for the old rips are
> still live and weirdly they sound like the same source. Has Tom shared this
> tape before I wonder?
>
>
> On 12 August 2016 at 19:53, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>
>> Another batch of Tom's World Service Tapes
>>
>> As last time - uploaded to Mooo in  this folder
>> Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Mooo Folder
>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/Tom%20Roche%20BBC%20World%20Service%20Tapes/>
>>
>> The master wiki page for the tape box is here
>> Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Wiki Page
>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Roche_BBC_World_Service_Tapes>
>> And thanks to those who have busily been creating tracklisting pages for
>> the last batch of shows
>>
>> The next 10 tapes cover:
>>
>> 1988-03-14 John Peel In Russia Part 2 BBC World Service TR011
>> 1988-03-21 John Peel BBC World Service TR011
>> 1988-06-27 John Peel BBC World Service TR013
>> 1988-09-25 John Peel BBC World Service TR014
>> 1988-10-17 John Peel BBC World Service TR015
>> 1988-12-05 John Peel BBC World Service TR016
>> 1989-05-29 John Peel BBC World Service TR020
>> 1989-06-12 John Peel BBC World Service TR019
>> 1989-06-19 John Peel BBC World Service TR019
>> 1989-06-26 John Peel BBC World Service TR019
>> 1989-08-07 John Peel BBC World Service TR020
>> 1989-09-25 John Peel BBC World Service TR018
>> 1992-10-05 John Peel BBC World Service TR012
>> 1994-05-28 John Peel BBC World Service TR012
>>
>>
>> Two of these shows on TR019 were only 15 minutes, as opposed to the usual
>> 30 minutes. Peel does not offer a reason why, other than to describe them
>> as "truncated" and "bisected".
>>
>>
>> On 31 July 2016 at 22:31, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> The first 10 of Tom's BBC World Service tapes are now uploaded to Mooo
>>> in  this folder
>>> Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Mooo Folder
>>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/Tom%20Roche%20BBC%20World%20Service%20Tapes/>
>>>
>>> There are no wiki pages yet for the shows (feel free to create them -
>>> I'll concentrate on the ripping and organising) but I've added the details
>>> to the master wiki page for the tape box
>>> Tom Roche BBC World Service Tapes Wiki Page
>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Roche_BBC_World_Service_Tapes>
>>>
>>> So far we have on these first 10 tapes:
>>>
>>>
>>> 05 December 1984 (BBC World Service)
>>> Late December 1984 (BBC World Service)
>>> 04 January 1985 (BBC World Service)
>>> 14 January 1985 (BBC World Service)
>>> 08 April 1985 (BBC World Service)
>>> 26 August 1985 (BBC World Service)
>>> 28 October 1985 (BBC World Service)
>>> 03 December 1985 (BBC World Service)
>>> 02 January 1986 (BBC World Service)
>>> 28 February 1987 (BBC World Service)
>>> 23 March 1987 (BBC World Service)
>>> 05 November 1987 (BBC World Service)
>>> 13 November 1987 (BBC World Service)
>>> 26 July 1993 (BBC World Service)
>>> 23 February 1993 (BBC World Service)
>>> 10 March 1997 (BBC World Service)
>>> 17 March 1997 (BBC World Service)
>>>
>>>
>>> The last 4 skip ahead in time because the dates were wrong on the
>>> inlays, should be back to 1988/89 with the next batch
>>>
>>> One curious thing is that on two different shows Peel plays a band and
>>> then says they are booked to record a session for the domestic show (Hail
>>> and Bette Davis & The Balconettes) but I don't see any evidence of either
>>> session in Ken's book. I wonder if bands blowing out sessions was more
>>> common than you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 July 2016 at 08:44, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm currently going through the 10 or so undated/unmarked tapes so that
>>>> I can get them in some semblance of date order and I have to say these
>>>> World Service shows are great.
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard any of the WS shows before, but the 30 minute format
>>>> means that he just sticks to the good stuff from the regular shows, but
>>>> mostly plays alternate tracks from the same records. In that respect it's
>>>> like some sort of alternate reality.
>>>>
>>>> I can't wait to start sharing the spoils
>>>>
>>>> On 27 July 2016 at 21:55, 'm.Luetchford' M.Luetchford@...
>>>> [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for this effort ... priceless indeed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: "'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel]" <
>>>>> peel@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Date: 26/07/2016 18:39 (GMT+00:00)
>>>>> To: peel@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [peel] Tom In Atlanta No More - but still has 300 tapes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well, I think the next batch will miraculously have the value of
>>>>> £33.99 (converted to $)
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com <peel@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:27 PM
>>>>> *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [peel] Tom In Atlanta No More - but still has 300
>>>>> tapes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well it seems that even though Tom marked the parcel as a gift and
>>>>> gave a nominal value of $50 - the rules are that any non-EU gift parcels
>>>>> are subject to VAT (plus the "handling fee") if they are worth more than
>>>>> £34. Thanks to Brexit the Pound is now so weak that it came in way over
>>>>> that threshold. We may have just squeezed it past if it had come before the
>>>>> Referendum!
>>>>> So we had an extra £24 to pay - which Rocker sorted out from the funds.
>>>>> We should have given the true value as "priceless" and let them figure
>>>>> out the VAT on that
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26 July 2016 at 18:16, Stuart Brooks stuartb@...
>>>>> [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats good news, I was thinking it had all gone quiet! I wonder how
>>>>>> HMRC worked out the value of some old tapes......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 July 2016 16:14:02 BST, "RobF robfleay@... [peel]" <
>>>>>> peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To keep the group up to date with progress - Tom's box of BBC World
>>>>>>> Service Peel tapes arrived by Parcelforce this morning (after a slight
>>>>>>> hiccup with the HMRC extortion services..) and I'm currently in the process
>>>>>>> of sorting them into years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those that want to keep an eye on things, I've set up a skeleton
>>>>>>> wikia page here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Roche_BBC_World_Service_Tapes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once I get everything in order I will of course start sharing the
>>>>>>> results here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 June 2016 at 16:46, Alan Ford ford.alan@... [peel] <
>>>>>>> peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A belated 'Hello Tom' from me. I can chip in towards postage, but
>>>>>>>> can't help with ripping. You may remember sending me stuff in the past,
>>>>>>>> particularly - if I remember correctly - a World Service 75th Anniv show
>>>>>>>> introduced by John. I've still got it somewhere, but everything's still in
>>>>>>>> boxes since moving house last year.
>>>>>>>> This clip of John playing French Toast Man mentions you at the
>>>>>>>> start and me at the end.
>>>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/alan-ford-9/peel-2001-03-01-extract-f
>>>>>>>> rench-toast-man
>>>>>>>> The slightly pretentious email I sent was kept with the record and
>>>>>>>> now forms part of The John Peel Archive:
>>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25624382@N02/14767339484/in/al
>>>>>>>> bum-72157624296952539/
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Tom Roche troche2255@...
>>>>>>>> [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello longtime PeelList friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It has been some time since I posted. Last year I began closing up
>>>>>>>>> 30 years in Atlanta and moved to New Orleans - which of course has the most
>>>>>>>>> music-rich history of any city in the US. Having a grand time; all the
>>>>>>>>> effort to get here (and whew it was a damn chore) was worth it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As stated previously, I had UK friends in the 80s and 90s
>>>>>>>>> recording and shipping Peel BBC Radio One shows on cassette for me.
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile I was recording his BBC World Service Shows both over the air (SW
>>>>>>>>> low-fi) and via a cleaner - but still mono - satellite link. My plan was to
>>>>>>>>> log all the dates of the shows I have - and post to this list - before
>>>>>>>>> making the big ATL to NOLA move, but life got complicated .... and I moved
>>>>>>>>> the all the tapes here in November still un-catalogued.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Somewhere I even have my own recording of the funeral service in
>>>>>>>>> Bury St Edmonds. I believe the only Yanks to drop everything and fly over
>>>>>>>>> were Jack White, Laura Cantrell and me.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to inquire how your digitization of tapes is going. Are you
>>>>>>>>> ready for another large batch? Obviously I need to post a logging of all
>>>>>>>>> the FM shows I have... so that shows you have already archived are not
>>>>>>>>> shipped over.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But what I have done this week is separated out all the BBCWS
>>>>>>>>> shows I have... it is between 75 and 80, and the parcel weighs 12-13
>>>>>>>>> pounds. All the shows begin with an often-clueless continuity announcer
>>>>>>>>> intro-ing the show (the best intro is the BBCWS promising music from
>>>>>>>>> "Prince Far The First.") Then comes Grinderswitch and then an ever-changing
>>>>>>>>> clever greeting from JP, then basically a 30 minute condensation of the
>>>>>>>>> week's 6 hours of domestic shows, sans sessions. He would get maybe 4
>>>>>>>>> letters a month and he'd read those out, sometimes even a letter from me.
>>>>>>>>> Then Grinderswitch again as the outro, later changed to any extendable
>>>>>>>>> techno track he liked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For a time he was limited to playing UK tracks only, some BBCWS
>>>>>>>>> silly rule, then about 1990 that changed. My satellite dish friend probably
>>>>>>>>> recorded every show over 10 years, but we only saved the best ones and
>>>>>>>>> rolled over the rest, alas. So the surviving shows are good ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, shall we extend the Peel Wiki to the World Service shows?
>>>>>>>>> Who would like all these cassettes? And do we want to do a little
>>>>>>>>> funding-site thing to pay for the overseas shipping? I can contribute but
>>>>>>>>> can shoulder all of it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then I'll move on to logging the (plus or minus) 300 R1 tapes, yes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Martin Wheatley - still around? Hello Phil Edwards and the
>>>>>>>>> missus. Hello Ken Garner?  Is David Cavanagh on the list? Love love love
>>>>>>>>> the Good Riddance book.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If anyone on the list is passing through New Orleans and wants to
>>>>>>>>> re-define the term "pub crawl" please please get in touch. I buy the first
>>>>>>>>> 4 rounds. I am still doing film video editing.... here is a little taste of
>>>>>>>>> my new world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://vimeo.com/155266481
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I urge you to check out our startlingly good R&B/jazz/heritage
>>>>>>>>> station here WWOZ-FM. Truly exceptional 24/7.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let the good times roll ... and my best to all ya'll as we say
>>>>>>>>> 'round here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom Roche
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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