[peel] Re: Derby Box begins..

[RobF]

Let me check - I thought I'd worked out what was on these compilation
tapes, and made some notes.

I'd set the tape running and then gone to the pub. When I got back it
seemed to make a lot less sense. I'm sure I have no idea WHAT could have
caused my temporary mind-fog!

On 8 December 2014 at 12:22, 'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@...
[peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Hi Rob
>
> Just trying to catch up on the wiki, but have got a bit stuck at 31st
> October 1978, the bits recorded onto DB030. Although the file begins with
> Can, the following tracks are not from this show according to the existing
> tracklisting. I think the ticks didn’t necessarily correspond to the dubbed
> version of the tape, but that the taper had them somewhere in his
> collection. I’ll try and work out what’s going on, I think it will be
> easier to create the tape pages and work from there.
>
> Stuart
>
>  *From:* mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com <peel@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 PM
> *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..
>
>
>
>  A new batch of Derby Box tapes to start your Christmas countdown..
>
> A complete, previously unshared show from 13 November 1978
> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_November_1978>
> Sessions from X Ray Spex and Matumbi
> Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-11-13/>
>
> The first 1 hour 10 minutes  from the previously unshared show on 20
> November 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_November_1978> and then
> another 20 minutes or so of edited highlights from the rest of the show.
> The taper erased the full last section of the show from tape DB033 and
> dubbed his favourite bits to DB030 (more of that further down*)
> Sessions from Swell Maps and XTC.
> Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-11-20/>
>
> A nearly complete show (1 hr 50), previously unshared from 27 November
> 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/27_November_1978>
> Sessions from Lene Lovich and X Ray Spex
>
> The first 1 Hour 20 minutes of 29 November 1978
> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1978>
> Wailing Cocks and John Cooper Clarke in session. 55 minutes of the end of
> this show were shared from the 400 Box, so this completes up the missing
> first half
> Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-11-29/>
>
> *DB030 (along with DB020 and DB040 which I hope to pick up this week) is
> the  edited highlights of a number of erased tapes - for which we still
> have the original handwritten tracklists for posterity. These are all
> marked on the Derby Box Wiki Page <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Derby_Box>
> as ERASED - and the tracklisting scans are on Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/> prefixed
> with ErasedTapennn.jpg
>
> So DB030 contains edited versions of
>
> 31 October 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/31_October_1978> 19 mins
> taken from ErasedTape029
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape029.jpg>
> (ticked tracks) available on Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-31/>
> 07 November 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_November_1978> 35 mins
> taken from ErasedTape030
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape030.jpg>
> (ticked tracks) available on Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-11-07/>
> 10 November 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1978> 20 mins
> taken from ErasedTape030
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape030.jpg>
> (ticked tracks) available on  Mooo
> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-11-10/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2014 at 12:45, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>
>>  And it continues...
>>
>> Just the intro of the show on 12 October 1978
>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/12_October_1978> survives - the majority of
>> the show (Punilux and Dr Feelgood sessions) is available from the 400 Box -
>> but the intro isn't present, so this makes for a nice little find.
>> Mooo
>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-12/>
>>
>> Then in direct contrast we have 3 shows in their entirety (give or take
>> the tape flips)
>>
>> A full, previously unshared show is from 19 October 1978
>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/19_October_1978>
>> Sessions from Molesters and Prag Vec
>> Mooo
>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-19/>
>>
>> A full show from the following night 20 October 1978
>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_October_1978>
>>  An all-records show with 3 tracks from the new Status Quo album (this
>> makes me chuckle that while he was heralding the arrival of Teenage Kicks,
>> he was also still championing the Quo, who were heading into their
>> decline). 45 minutes of this show have been shared previously from the 400
>> Box.
>> Mooo
>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-20/>
>>
>> And the full show from 23 October 1978
>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_October_1978>
>> The Buzzcocks and The Fall in session - already available almost in full
>> from the 400 Box, but this version adds the missing 4-5 minutes and is a
>> significant sound upgrade
>> Mooo
>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-23/>
>>
>> And finally for today...
>>
>> Only the first 24 minutes of the show from 24 October 1978
>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/24_October_1978>
>> Yachts in session - previously unshared. A shame there isn't more of this
>> one.
>> Mooo
>> <http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-24/>
>>
>>
>> On 26 November 2014 at 13:44, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>>
>>>  With so many tapes (of such excellent quality) to get through, I'm
>>> trying not to lose momentum, but apologies to anyone who is struggling to
>>> keep up with me posting them faster than you can listen to them!
>>>
>>> Today we have
>>>
>>> The full show from 02 October 1978
>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/02_October_1978>
>>> Previously unshared. The Mekons in session (and very good they are too)
>>> Mooo
>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-02/>
>>>
>>> The full show from 03 October 1978
>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/03_October_1978>
>>> 1 hour was previously available from the 400 Box, but here it's in its
>>> entirety and contains the debut Siouxsie album played in full (which Ken's
>>> book mentions as happening on 6th October - so the book could be wrong?)
>>> and a session from Wire.
>>> Mooo
>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-03/>
>>>
>>> The first 47 minutes of the show on 11 October 1978
>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/11_October_1978>
>>> UK Subs in session. the rest of the show is available from the 400 Box
>>> so this makes the full show now available
>>> Mooo
>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-10-11/>
>>>
>>> I might have a breather now, as I'm offline for a couple of days
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 November 2014 at 09:55, RobF <robfleay@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Thanks as always to Branko for extending the disk space on Mooo once
>>>> more, so that we can share these amazing Derby Box recordings. There may
>>>> well be an avalanche now that Stuart has made a start on his batch too..
>>>>
>>>> Today from me we have:
>>>>
>>>> 1 hour and 35 minutes of 18 September 1978
>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/18_September_1978>
>>>> A previously unshared show with sessions from Doctor Feelgood and Stiff
>>>> Little Fingers
>>>> Mooo
>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-18/>
>>>>
>>>> 1 hours and 45 minutes of the 25 September 1978
>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/25_September_1978>
>>>> Already partially available from the 400 Box - this is the show where
>>>> he plays Teenage Kicks twice, but the taper didn't like it and so taped
>>>> over that segment?! The show then carries on to the end.(NB the missing
>>>> section is luckily in the 400 Box version for posterity)
>>>> Sessions from Motorhead  and The Skids
>>>> Mooo
>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-25/>
>>>>
>>>> Then we have a 15 minute selection of some tracks from 20 September
>>>> 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_September_1978>
>>>> This is what he taped over the Teenage Kicks section with - he compiled
>>>> his favourite tracks from this show - and then erased the rest of that tape Original
>>>> tracklisting was here
>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape018.jpg>
>>>> (it also included the end of the 18 Sept 78 show). Some of his other
>>>> favourite tracks from this show are compiled on Tape020 when I get there.
>>>> Sessions from Prag Vec and Whitecats. It's a previously unshared show, so a
>>>> shame that it was edited down like this.
>>>> Mooo
>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-20/>
>>>>
>>>> 1 hour and 12 minutes of another unshared show from 28 September 1978
>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/28_September_1978>
>>>> Sessions from Solid Senders (featuring Wilko Johnson) and Viv Stanshall
>>>> - although Viv's Rawlinson End piece must have been towards the end of the
>>>> show, therefore is missing from this tape.
>>>> Mooo
>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-28/>
>>>>
>>>> I've also managed to date the previously undated two tracks from DB010.
>>>> These were also compiled from a tape which he then erased (thankfully it
>>>> looks like he stopped doing this by about Tape040). They are from
>>>> 13 September 1978 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_September_1978>
>>>> Sessions from Hot Water and Roy Harper. Original tracklisting was here
>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape015.jpg>
>>>> and again, some more tracks from this show are compiled on Tape020 when I
>>>> get there.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 November 2014 at 10:16, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Today's instalment of the Derby Box is as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> The last of the Gambaccini Stand-In tapes. This is 45 minutes from the
>>>>> start of the show on 07-September-1978
>>>>> This was marked as Friday Rock Show on the original taper's
>>>>> spreadsheet - most likely based on the classic-rock tinged playlist.
>>>>> Repeated sessions from Graham Parker and Ian Dury. Previously unshared.
>>>>> Mooo
>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-07/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The first 45 minutes of Peel on 11 September 1978
>>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/11_September_1978>
>>>>> Sessions from Racing Cars and The Adverts. The next 45 minutes of the
>>>>> show are on tape DB013 which is one that the original taper sold on ebay
>>>>> (on account of DB013 having the first play of Teenage Kicks on Side B -
>>>>> 12th Sept). Hopefully the list member who bought this tape will share it
>>>>> soon! None of this show has been shared before
>>>>> Mooo
>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-11/>
>>>>>
>>>>> 95 minutes (a long C90!) of 14 September 1978
>>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/14_September_1978>
>>>>> Only one session -  from Radio Stars, a notable show for the second
>>>>> play of Teenage Kicks. Peel recounts being called by one of the band to say
>>>>> thanks for the initial play, and goes on to add that he has already heard
>>>>> of record company interest for them. "A really excellent record it is too"
>>>>> 20 minutes of this show were previously shared from the 400 Box (but
>>>>> didn't include the Undertones section)
>>>>> Mooo
>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-14/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 November 2014 at 22:50, Vince Nzo meltormentsingers@...
>>>>> [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Gruppo was a wonderful little Dutch band and the pride of
>>>>>> alternative Holland. I love their singles and albums. Hans Vandenberg was a
>>>>>> very smart writer with a bit of a Bonzo's streak with regards to clever
>>>>>> lyrics. ...In Japan they don't have stereo but kimono...that kinda work :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vince
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* "Rocker rockerq@aol.com [peel]" <peel@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 11:15 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  This one willl be fascinating for me - I remember listening to it
>>>>>> in the comfort of the parental home, three weeks before moving to a strange
>>>>>> new town (Bristol) to be a student - I must have been impressed by the
>>>>>> Gruppo Sportivo session because on my first night off the leash I walked
>>>>>> two miles across the outskirts of town, map in hand, to see them play at
>>>>>> what was then Bristol Polytechnic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Soon after that, like so many bands, they disappeared entirely,
>>>>>> presumably back to Holland, but I still dig out their single 'rock'n'roll'
>>>>>> occasionally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: RobF robfleay@... [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> To: peel <peel@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 9:57 am
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Today's Derby box tape is 90 minutes of the 06 September 1978
>>>>>> show - the third night of Paul Gambaccini standing in for Peel that week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sessions from Squeeze and Gruppo Sportivo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1978-09-06 (Paul Gambaccini)
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-09-06/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing from the slightly smoother playlists that went on this
>>>>>> week, these were programmed by PG and not Peel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend you all rush to this one, I can only listen to
>>>>>> about 5 seconds of Gambo before wanting to stick my head in a bucket of
>>>>>> water. Back in 1978 he was particularly smarmy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies to the Gambo fans
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 November 2014 14:04, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I'm glad that the Derby Box is generating so many positive comments,
>>>>>> it's been a joy to rip so far (and many many thanks to Steve for keeping on
>>>>>> top the wiki!) but today's tape confused me completely for a moment*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It turns out that the original taper erased his first attempts at
>>>>>> Tape DB003 and Tape DB009 and dubbed his favourite bits to Tape DB010. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *You can see from his original tracklists
>>>>>> herehttp://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape003.jpg
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape003.jpg>http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape009.jpg
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape009.jpg>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *that everything he ticked - was dubbed to DB010 and the rest was
>>>>>> sadly erased.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *So DB010 is a compilation of sorts, but nonetheless contains*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *3 tracks from the end of 18 August 1978
>>>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/18_August_1978> which slightly extends the
>>>>>> version of the show shared last week from DB002*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Blast Furnace and Hits (AKA Snivelling Shits) in session*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mooo
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-08-18/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Just over an hour of 30 August 1978
>>>>>> <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_August_1978> of which 40 minutes was
>>>>>> previously avaible in lower quality on the 400 Box*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Pirates and Punishment Of Luxury in sessionMooo
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-08-30/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *A couple of tracks that must have been dubbed from elsewhere (not
>>>>>> clear where at this point) and it's impos sible to date them from the brief
>>>>>> snippets of talking but I assume from 19781978-XX-XX/
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/1978-XX-XX/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *And then some none-Peel content - a few songs from Rock On 19th Aug
>>>>>> 1978 (I couldn't identify the presenter but Steve tells me it's Stuart
>>>>>> Grundy) - includes an interview with City BoyRock On
>>>>>> <http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/John%20Peel%201978%20Tapes/Rock%20On/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *On 20 November 2014 00:26, thebarguest@...
>>>>>> <thebarguest@...> [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> <peel@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Many thanks Rob! Just played 780828 and it's one of the best Peel
>>>>>> shows I've ever heard ! The audio quality is amazing, like it's from last
>>>>>> week!Magazine were my fave band from 78 to 81. Maybe if I'd have heard the
>>>>>> previous rip on headphones I'd have noticed it ; I hate digital artefacts -
>>>>>> heard them a lot in the early days of mp3/sharing - like a faint bubbling
>>>>>> noise, horrible... *
>>>>>>
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