[peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 and the Rich 160
Dr Mango
dr_mango2004@...
Mon Mar 18 16:24:23 CET 2013
Any info about the source / quality of the Rich 160 recordings, Stuart?
DM
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From: Stuart <stuartb@....com>
To: peel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013, 0:17
Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 and the Rich 160
Nearer 300 SL tapes by my reckoning!
I too did have a little Genesis phase I have to admit but went completely off them around the Abacab period. Followed PG (up to PG4) rather than PC though did like In The Air Tonight and PCs drumming on PG3 was OK I suppose.
Don't know about the sell-out type scenario, I wonder if it's just that it becomes more difficult to maintain creativity, but easier or more natural to make what the masses would like. What I mean is, are there a group of bands/musicians who had some great original material up their sleeves but ditched it in preference to something that would sell more? I favour the idea that most of the bands who "sold out" actually had used up all their creative reserves, but still had the technical ability, the fame etc to keep making a living in the industry. Fair enough, but I don't have to like them any more!
And maybe most bands who still did have something to say, did so, which is why Wire in 2004 was a fantastic gig and they didn't play a single track I knew from the 70s/80s/90s.
I digress.
I have opened and sorted the first batch of the Rich 160. There are separate track listings too which I will scan (sorry Rich not quite up to the beauty of the John Peel Papers listings but gold dust nonetheless).
Back at work at the weekend (my ripping station is at my digs where I work) so will take the first batch there and hopefully get the first few tapes online then.
Stuart
--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "rockerq@..." <rockerq@...> wrote:
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> From: MARK LUETCHFORD <M.Luetchford@...>
> To: peel <peel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 12:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend" (3,2,3,2,6)
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> Robert Wyatt - his version of ship building knocks spots of Elvis C's.
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> But no idea about the clue? Bible studies not my strong point. Somthing to do with Friday?
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> Thanks for these shows. Other new shares seem to have dried up a bit?
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> looking forward to next tapes from Rocker - how many do we have left inthat stash? and has Stuart received the batch from Watford way?
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> From: Humphrey <thebarguest@...>
> To: peel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013, 17:25
> Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend" (3,2,3,2,6)
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> Funny but I think Genesis's self-titled 1983 album is brill - maybe it's nostalgia for the time but there're some great toons on there -'Mama' (incredible drumming), 'Home By The Sea' etc. Yeah, like Bill, I also love good punk / new-wave and The Fall, Can (incredible drumming), Magazine etc.
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> --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews <pa0353@> wrote:
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> > I thought Collins first solo album, Face Value had some interesting moments. All went down hill after that. Especially when he did Buster. Peter Gabriel was certainly producing good stuff for a lot long than his former drummer.
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> > Sent from my iPad
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> > On 9 Mar 2013, at 12:08, "billfromnorthwales" <billfromnorthwales@> wrote:
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> > Yes, I am with you for Gabriel up to 1980, the fist 2 albums.
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> > I'll even go with you til 82.
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> > It's just that after that he went all worthy and dull.
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> > Even with his MTV phase.
> > May be that is why Peel never played him much, even with all his World Music stable
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> > Bill Nelson does not even get on the list of mildly annoying, let alone most hated, so we'll have no further talk of him in this context.
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> > David Byrne may be another who comes through completely unscathed.
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> > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" <thebarguest@> wrote:
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> > > Yeah, so many "sold out" / sold their souls not for r&r but for daytime-radio playlist / bank-account glory. Filthy lucre indeed !
> > > Like Rooney abandoning his beloved Everton for Man U ; I wonder how they can sleep (did Lennon eventually sell-out ?) ...
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> > > But Mr Gabriel nevah ! He adapted to new-wave and was accepted into the fold at the old age of 30-ish. His first solo LP is better than any Genesis platter and his other ones circa 78-82 reflect the "spirit of the (new)age". Likewise Sir William Nelson of Bebopshire ...
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> > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" <billfromnorthwales@> wrote:
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> > > > Simply QED
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> > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "rockerq@" <rockerq@> wrote:
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> > > > > Well The Frantic Elevators were great!
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> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: billfromnorthwales <billfromnorthwales@>
> > > > > To: peel <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 11:02 pm
> > > > > Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend" (3,2,3,2,6)
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> > > > > Yeah, and Peter Gabriels's worse, the miserable sod...
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> > > > > But that got me thinking...People who were in good bands that became hated
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> > > > > How about The Faces?
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> > > > > Now there is a subsequent career from the singer.
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> > > > > The Beatles - Just look at what their bassist did
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> > > > > Roxy Music - Another crooner
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> > > > > The Police - Don't get me started tantric man
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> > > > > Well....the list goes on...
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> > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "rockerq@" <rockerq@> wrote:
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> > > > > > Get Em Out By Friday?
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> > > > > > I never liked Genesis. And I think the subsequent career of their drummer has borne me out on this one.
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> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: billfromnorthwales <billfromnorthwales@>
> > > > > > To: peel <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 9:59 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend" (3,2,3,2,6)
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> > > > > > This is an anouncement from genetic control......
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> > > > > > Which reminds me, when the conversation came up the other week...
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> > > > > > 1977 was a real crossover year, and Peel did play Genesis and Generation X, and Alan Freeman did play the Stones and the Stranglers, so there was no surprise when Peel repeated a Genesis session in 1977.
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> > > > > > And that's why I like punk and Prog.
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> > > > > > Thanks for the shows!!!
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> > > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" <so_it_goes_2512@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Fellow Peelites
> > > > > > > 1) Peel 051 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_051_(BFBS)> (BFBS) , Peel
> > > > > > > 052 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_052_(BFBS)> (BFBS)
> > > > > > > Dirk's files reach February 1987. Does anybody else feel that music was
> > > > > > > kind of treading water in this pre-grindcore period?
> > > > > > > 2) 17 November 1996 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_November_1996> (Cha
> > > > > > > Cha Cohen)
> > > > > > > The first of the two missing files.
> > > > > > > 3) 17 December 1993 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_December_1993>
> > > > > > > (Fabric, Mercury Rev)
> > > > > > > From the 500 Box, another tape previously thought lost, carrying on from
> > > > > > > the previous share from the same source.
> > > > > > > 4) 04 November 1994 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/04_November_1994>
> > > > > > > (Archers Of Loaf, Voodoo Queens)
> > > > > > > Another 500 Box file, three sides of previously unshared JP heaven.Many
> > > > > > > thanks to Dirk, Isector and Colin.
> > > > > > > Best wishesSteve (TK)
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