[peel] A new England

[MARK LUETCHFORD]

Kirsty did record it in 84 a year and took it higher in the charts than the big nosed bastard ever did. But  Mr Bragg penned it (now it appears with a little help from Mr Simon) and released it on his first LP/EP - Lifes a Riot with Spy vs Spy in 1983.

Mark


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 From: aadam jacobs <aadamjacobs@...>
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I was pretty sure that Kirsty MacColl wrote "A New England."
I'm too stuck to check the record credits.


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 From: John Gray <jt.gray@...>
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Sorry, I was responding to your remark about the Wedding Present.  I agree - Billy Bragg lifted the lines without permission, and as you say, it's unlikely to be have been Paul Simon personally who objected.

JG


On 20 May 2012, at 12:43, Mike Parker wrote:

  
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>Plagiarism? Such a hurtful word!  Tribute, perhaps?  Homage?
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>>I remember hearing him explain once how he thought they were great opening lines for a song, and didn't think anyone would mind if he used them - then he got a letter from Paul Simon's lawyers!  He didn't say how things were resolved though.
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>>On 19 May 2012, at 22:32, lorcan58 wrote:
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>>>I'm sure most of you already know this but I never realised that Billy Bragg's iconic opening lines:
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>>>I was 21 years when I wrote this song
>>>22 now but I won't be for long
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>>>were actually lifted from a 1967 Simon & Garfunkel song "The Leaves That Are Green". You can listen to the original here:
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTMPyLP5YM
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>>>Mind you, I always wondered how he aged a year between the first and second lines...
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>>>Lorcan
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