[peel] A new England
aadam jacobs
aadamjacobs@...
Sun May 20 19:08:47 CEST 2012
I was pretty sure that Kirsty MacColl wrote "A New England."
I'm too stuck to check the record credits.
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From: John Gray <jt.gray@...>
To: peel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [peel] A new England
Sorry, I was responding to your remark about the Wedding Present. I agree - Billy Bragg lifted the lines without permission, and as you say, it's unlikely to be have been Paul Simon personally who objected.
JG
On 20 May 2012, at 12:43, Mike Parker wrote:
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>i disagree, if bragg had felt a degree of homage he would have contacted paul simon first before using the lyrics without consent and lets be honest profiteering from it allegedly, who`s going to be pleased about that? paul simon might have been amused by it rather like bono was over the u2/negativland saga but ultimately if your not on your own record label then its your management team that call the shots which they did in the case of paul simon..
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> From: John Gray <jt.gray@...>
>To: peel@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012, 12:16
>Subject: Re: [peel] A new England
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>Plagiarism? Such a hurtful word! Tribute, perhaps? Homage?
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>John Gray
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>On 20 May 2012, at 10:30, Mike Parker wrote:
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>>i wonder if the wedding present[nice bloke, shame about the songs] were guilty of shamefull plagarism also; if so i think we need to be told.
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>> From: John Gray <jt.gray@...>
>>To: peel@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012, 9:41
>>Subject: Re: [peel] A new England
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>>I remember hearing him explain once how he thought they were great opening lines for a song, and didn't think anyone would mind if he used them - then he got a letter from Paul Simon's lawyers! He didn't say how things were resolved though.
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>>john Gray
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>>On 19 May 2012, at 22:32, lorcan58 wrote:
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>>>I'm sure most of you already know this but I never realised that Billy Bragg's iconic opening lines:
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>>>I was 21 years when I wrote this song
>>>22 now but I won't be for long
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>>>were actually lifted from a 1967 Simon & Garfunkel song "The Leaves That Are Green". You can listen to the original here:
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTMPyLP5YM
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>>>Mind you, I always wondered how he aged a year between the first and second lines...
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>>>Lorcan
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