[peel] <Wiki> Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions

[bill.spiby@...]

Hi Mic,

These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of comments:

1978
37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, therefore it's the single)
34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing)
20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible single version rather than the Sire LP)
10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear the start of Smarter than You coming in)

1979
22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single)
16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single)
02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP really)

1980
42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me)
29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single)
08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto)

I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty.

Kind regards
Bill
> 
> From: "Mic" <hotmissile_lives@...>
> Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST
> To: peel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [peel] <Wiki> Editing other people�s work / FF79 & 80 questions
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen 
> to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are 
> many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take 
> me some time to get there...
> 
> Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as 
> to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those 
> shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to 
> assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something 
> I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and 
> while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki.
> 
> So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 � 80 Festive Fifties, 
> and the associated shows:
> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty
> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty
> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty
> However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought 
> I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just 
> editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? 
> I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously 
> added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want.
> 
> Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much 
> information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or 
> music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; 
> that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted 
> what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his 
> comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the 
> tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I 
> also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel 
> sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of 
> the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original 
> show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I 
> don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything 
> from. If that makes sense.
> 
> If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've 
> also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting 
> from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings 
> available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 
> mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so 
> I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't 
> sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any 
> fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of-
> the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 
> separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on 
> the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue 
> is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this 
> actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other 
> Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty 
> (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got 
> the wrong end of the stick here?
> 
> Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got 
> this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as 
> being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to 
> confirm this on the recording � can this be verified in any way?
> 
> Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here 
> is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three 
> sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the 
> shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, 
> these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's 
> missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to 
> bring it to someone's attention � I can't see any contact info on the 
> site.
> 
> Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a 
> better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have 
> identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a 
> bit less noise � perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do 
> people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just 
> hearing things?
> 
> Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of 
> the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal 
> or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in 
> different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me?
> 
> And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. 
> These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some 
> reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch 
> mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No 
> offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks �
>  it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form � but 
> does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments 
> from the shows?
> 
> That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in 
> advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone 
> who's been recording and keeping records of these shows.
> 
> Mic.
> 
> 
> 

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