<Wiki> Editing other peoples work / FF79 & 80 questions
Mic
hotmissile_lives@...
Thu Oct 16 01:51:15 CEST 2008
Hi all,
I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen
to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are
many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take
me some time to get there...
Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as
to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those
shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to
assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something
I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and
while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki.
So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 80 Festive Fifties,
and the associated shows:
http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty
http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty
http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty
However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought
I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just
editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments?
I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously
added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want.
Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much
information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or
music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts';
that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted
what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his
comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the
tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I
also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel
sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of
the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original
show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I
don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything
from. If that makes sense.
If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've
also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting
from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings
available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3
mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so
I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't
sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any
fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of-
the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15
separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on
the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue
is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this
actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other
Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty
(between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got
the wrong end of the stick here?
Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got
this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as
being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to
confirm this on the recording can this be verified in any way?
Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here
is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three
sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the
shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki,
these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's
missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to
bring it to someone's attention I can't see any contact info on the
site.
Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a
better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have
identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a
bit less noise perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do
people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just
hearing things?
Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of
the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal
or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in
different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me?
And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2.
These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some
reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch
mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No
offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks
it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form but
does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments
from the shows?
That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in
advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone
who's been recording and keeping records of these shows.
Mic.
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