A quick question...

[dave]

Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies for coming in 
rather late. But I don't see any logical connection between oven 
gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be some confusion here 
between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi mass murder, which 
was something quite different. I'm no fan but I think HMHB are 
innocent on this score, which is more than can be said for JD/NO.  

--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant <pbryant98@...> wrote:
>
> Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi
> terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the
> mix is definately on the same trajectory of grotesque
> and in my view horribly misplaced humour.
> 
> pb
> 
> --- shortattentionspan_radio
> <shortattentionspan_radio@...> wrote:
> 
> > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out of
> > such a horrible 
> > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their
> > songs anyway? Why 
> > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always gone
> > for the 
> > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven
> > Gloves laughs at 
> > anything in particular it's surely music industry
> > merchandizing. 
> > More likely just his usual combination of the
> > sublime and the 
> > ridiculous though.
> > 
> > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh
> > <stuart@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Never occurred to me that this might be the 
> > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't 
> > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that 
> > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how 
> > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not 
> > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a 
> > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a 
> > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of 
> > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the 
> > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was 
> > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the 
> > > completists).
> > > 
> > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to
> > back up either 
> > theory...
> > > 
> > > S
> > 
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