[peel] Re: A quick question...

[Paul Bryant]

irony is a dangerous thing sometimes and can easily
lead to the impression that you are in favour of the
very things you're trying to satirise...



--- dean coster <bingoandsnork@...> wrote:

> I remember reading an interview where they said that
> the song was based upon somebody having a Joy
> Division oven glove, and inspiring them to right
> about stupid merchandising scams. Unfortunately, it
> has also become a firm favourite of the Stormfront
> White Nationalist Community . At least a few members
> of their forum, it would seem (type 'half man half
> biscuit joy division oven gloves' into yahoo and see
> what option number three is). Which just goes to
> show - white nationalists are a bit thick and don't
> do irony.
>    
>   
> 
> Paul Bryant <pbryant98@...> wrote:
>   Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi
> terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the
> mix is definately on the same trajectory of
> grotesque
> and in my view horribly misplaced humour.
> 
> pb
> 
> 
> 
> --- shortattentionspan_radio
> <shortattentionspan_radio@...> wrote:
> 
> > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out
> of
> > such a horrible 
> > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their
> > songs anyway? Why 
> > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always
> gone
> > for the 
> > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven
> > Gloves laughs at 
> > anything in particular it's surely music industry
> > merchandizing. 
> > More likely just his usual combination of the
> > sublime and the 
> > ridiculous though.
> > 
> > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > 
> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh
> > <stuart@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Never occurred to me that this might be the 
> > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't 
> > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that 
> > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how 
> > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not 
> > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite
> a 
> > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a 
> > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of 
> > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the 
> > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was 
> > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the
> 
> > > completists).
> > > 
> > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing
> to
> > back up either 
> > theory...
> > > 
> > > S
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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