hi phil, everyone,

also drawn in by the subject on this one - busy times and rarely get a chance to look at these emails, but have enjoyed reading through this one.  for me there were a coupla shit tracks each show, can't think of any *major* offenders, but usually just the dull/twee indie tracks.  but i never especially minded hearing them, just looked forward to seeing what gem was hiding around the next corner.  i listened to peel for about ten years before he called it a day, and it was the finest musical education i ever could've hoped for, something for which i'm eternally grateful to have received.

re the fall though [mark luetchford, 27th may], never massively bothered to be honest.  got about ten or so albums and there are some amazing tracks within, but i don't feel the need to complete the set or owt.  not like muslimgauze where i won't stop til i've got them all...

re melt banana live show lovin, was lucky enough to see them record a session for peel at maida vale a while back - that drummer, wow!

actually, i do have an answer -  the smiths.  i hate them and anyone who's ever been influenced by them.  amen.

hope you're all well
paul

ps youse lot really should listen to more techno :)
pps phil, that's a hellova lot of years of peel you listened to, impressed/jealous!


On 14 July 2012 23:11, Phil Edwards <festive50@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
 

Had problems with my e-mail and just found this draft,

So a belated post.

 

 

I haven’t posted for a hell of a long time, but this post really appealed to me.

Firstly being one of the older members (b. 1951), I grew up with Peely, from his “Perfumed Garden” days on Radio London and in those days I just loved practically everything he played.

I carried on listening up to the mid ‘70s then I stopped and the only band I can remember to this day which put me off was “The boys of the Lough” (I possibly may even like them now, who knows). Ironically I’d stopped listening just prior to punk, however I did get to hear punk and reggae elsewhere fortunately but probably not to such a great extent. I then rediscovered Peel in 1981 when I heard and recorded the top 20 of the festive fifty and carried on with just the FFs until early 1987 when I listened to most of his shows right up to his sad demise. Again I just loved practically everything he played up until the latter years and believe it or not I preferred the electronic techno/ drum ‘n bass/ dance/ grime/ dubstep to the conventional guitar based bands. Ironically John used to bemoan the fact that the FF was latterly made up of “white boys strumming guitars”, yet he used to play the ilk of “Von Bondies”, “The Datsuns”, “Vaults”, “Decoration” and “The Bees” which I just simply abhorred and in IMHO were just a continuation of “Britpop” and hadn’t “moved on”.

To me, guitar bands had to have a distinctive edge with raucous/melodic beautiful vocals like “King of the Slums”, “Band of Susans”, “Clinic”, “Solex”, “Stereolab”, “Herman Dune”, “Will Oldham”, “Tungg”.

Phil

 

 

From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Stuart
Sent: 24 May 2012 20:03
To: peel@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [peel] Re: What was your most hated Peel favourite band?

 

 

Hmm



I disliked lots of Peel's faves at first but they grew on me - loved the way he championed bands who later matured - always kept me guessing and intrigued

The list of bands and genres he introduced me to is endless - so many magic moments, Slits, Pop Group, early Scritts, The mighty Fall, Sonic Youth, Misty, Aswad, Oval, PHJ, Fresenius Kabi, Diblo, Bhundus, Abana Banaseri, Melt Banana, Boredoms, JUNE TABOR, Martin Carthy, John Martyn, Drum and Bass, Electro, Dance, Weddoes, Microdisney Glad you were born in England, Tangerine Dream, Lee Perry, Bovell, The Jury Boys, even now I am first hearing the Superqueens and Living Ornament, Guitar Wolf, Pinetop Smith, who was that fab boogie woogie lady? Pig's Big 78, and of course - The Native Hipsters Oh look there goes concord again, who was it did that song went wah wah didly diddly splong with lots of shouting? Splintered, nearly forgot Vermonster and Trumanswater, the Saints, Dead C, Who did 'and I send my love with a Molotov cocktail?'

Gosh JP changed my life!!!!!

ian


On 23/05/2012 20:43, mr_maudlin wrote:

 

Shall I be the one person to stand up for the Wedding Present? I'm really surprised at the number of people who didn't seem to care for them, and presumably Cinerama as well (as the boy Gedge's voice was much higher in the mix). Oh well, nowt so queer as folk.

No band in particular stands out as a turn off for me, it was mainly the dush dush dance stuff that left me cold, and led to me actually missing some shows from 2000ish onwards, where it seemed to be filling up the programmes.

MarkC

--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, MARK LUETCHFORD wrote:
>
> I've changed the message title as I'm enjoying this and wanted others to take part.
>
> It would be truly amazing  if everybody here loved every thing he played - surely that's the point. He played what he liked -not what he was told to play - and you could make your own mind up. I think he would have been mystified if someone claimed to have exactly the same musical taste as himself. He would have just been sad if people stopped listening to new music - I remembered he likened it to films once - why get stuck watching the films that were made up until you are 25.
>
> if you want to see a backlash try this for size - I find most of the repetitive beat/dance/rave/ house/acid music (eg a whole genre) he played unlistenable but used to grin and bear it from the late 80s in the hope of hearing  a gem and when it almost completely took over his show - or at least seemed to - I even gave up listening for a while then missed his contribution to my musical history/present too much. 
>
> ....and as for Captain Beefheart I only like a very few of his offerings at the more commercial end of his repertoire. I ocassionally get my copy of Trout Mask out to give it a spin but still don't get it. Maybe one day I will.
>
> I thought the weddies finest hour was their ukranian stylings - seemed pretty mediocre to me apart from that and their first album.
>
>
> So that's me consigned to the back of the Peel Musicology Class
>
> Mark
>
> PS has Steve got a thing against Steveless because of their name? The band were ok but thought the name was genius.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Parker
> To: "peel@yahoogroups.com" <peel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012, 20:20
> Subject: Re: [peel] Re: A new England
>
>
>  
> [sent twice, dont think previous one got through]                                                                                                                                                             Good to hear steve, I was beginning  to think my comments were far too contraversial
> for others to have an opinion on, well at least it momentarily shook up the
> group from a state of stunned silence, thanks for instigating the mild backlash ha.  
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: so_it_goes_2512
> To: peel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012, 0:46
> Subject: [peel] Re: A new England
>
>
>  
> > Ah ok ,well while i`m coming out all guns blazing i do really think the wedding present were probably the biggest mistake peel made in getting behind, did thoroughly decent bloke and mate cloud peels judgement?there awfull, just listen to mr gedge`s voice, he cant sing for toffees,that awfull whine,i just don`t get the popularity with that band. anybody else think peel got it badly wrong in championing any particular band?
>
> Hi buddy, having seen them twice and played their stuff to death, I can't go along with you on that one, but again it's only personal opinion, as I repeatedly had to point out to those who bit my head off for negative write-ups of Melt Banana and Radiohead on Teenage Kicks. Those two would definitely be my bete noires, and while I'm at it, please add Sheena Easton, Racing Cars, the Incredible String Band and Steveless to the list of those acts John loved but which make me want to stick my head in the microwave every time he plays them.
>
> All the best
> Steve (TK)
>