From M.Luetchford@... Tue Oct 1 21:29:18 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (Mr M D Luetchford) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 20:29:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box Message-ID: Real shame that you've run out of tapes to rip. Is no one on here sitting on some tapes wondering if they will ever find time to rip them? Mark On 30 September 2019, at 14:22, "'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel]" wrote:   I have done, but only on my various HDDs, that’s why I always name them beginning with yyyy-mm-dd, and rename the ones I download   From: MLEFJ mlefj@yahoo.co.uk [peel] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:36 AM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Mystery Box     Brilliant work Stuart. If you’re bored you should do what I’m thinking of doing. Getting all the shows (from various people’s folders) and putting them in chronological order for the whole of JP’s career.   Then I can just listen to all the shows there are in a row.. Starting with the earliest.   You’ve probably already done this, I guess   Thanks again to you and everyone who does all the work   James On 30 Sep 2019, at 01:50, stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote:   Well that didn't take long...   MY10 contained an 85m continuous section of 29th November 2000, previously only some edited tracks from the Lee Tapes were available. Warning, the sound is bad and soon becomes atrocious bordering on unintelligible; this sounds like the tuner was mistuned.   MY11 contained 71 mostly continuous minutes of 14th March 2001, again adding to the edited tracks from the Lee Tapes. It's interesting that both of these shows were very rare in having no shared audio, then like buses, two sources came along at once. There was also a very short snippet from a previous use of this tape, shared as March 2001 on the wiki. It's an unknown date.   MY12 produced a mainly continuous section of 1st March 2001, though only 7 minutes are new.   Finally MY14 added some edited tracks (with intros) to 10th September 1998.   All the other tapes were duplicates of shows already available complete in good quality so weren't shared.   That's my tape backlog cleared. So what to do now... I have still a few Derby Box tapes to re-rip (the Memorex ones with the dodgy pressure pads from the first half of the box). But if anyone who got fed up with their ripping projects fancies sending me the tapes I'd be happy to digitise and return.. (Peel  only)   If not, might need to find a new hobby...   Stuart     From robfleay@... Tue Oct 1 22:10:38 2019 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 21:10:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've been racking my brains as to how to encourage more people to share their old stashes of tapes. There must still be loads out there. Short of asking someone on Twitter with a lot of followers (hem hem - hello Mr Quantick) to put out an APB then I guess we're stuck scouring Gumtree and eBay On the subject of eBay, I had my dummy listing (pointing people at the wiki and asking if anyone had any tapes) removed yet again. I think they have periodic sweeps of all listings that contain links to external sites. On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 20:29, Mr M D Luetchford M.Luetchford@... [peel] wrote: > Real shame that you've run out of tapes to rip. Is no one on here sitting > on some tapes wondering if they will ever find time to rip them? > > Mark > > > On 30 September 2019, at 14:22, "'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@... > [peel]" wrote: > > > > > > > I have done, but only on my various HDDs, that’s why I always name them > beginning with yyyy-mm-dd, and rename the ones I download > > *From:* MLEFJ mlefj@... [peel] > *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2019 8:36 AM > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [peel] Mystery Box > > > > Brilliant work Stuart. If you’re bored you should do what I’m thinking of > doing. Getting all the shows (from various people’s folders) and putting > them in chronological order for the whole of JP’s career. > > Then I can just listen to all the shows there are in a row.. Starting with > the earliest. > > You’ve probably already done this, I guess > > Thanks again to you and everyone who does all the work > > James > > On 30 Sep 2019, at 01:50, stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] < > peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Well that didn't take long... > > MY10 contained an 85m continuous section of 29th November 2000, previously > only some edited tracks from the Lee Tapes were available. Warning, the > sound is bad and soon becomes atrocious bordering on unintelligible; this > sounds like the tuner was mistuned. > > MY11 contained 71 mostly continuous minutes of 14th March 2001, again > adding to the edited tracks from the Lee Tapes. It's interesting that both > of these shows were very rare in having no shared audio, then like buses, > two sources came along at once. There was also a very short snippet from a > previous use of this tape, shared as March 2001 on the wiki. It's an > unknown date. > > MY12 produced a mainly continuous section of 1st March 2001, though only 7 > minutes are new. > > Finally MY14 added some edited tracks (with intros) to 10th September 1998. > > All the other tapes were duplicates of shows already available complete in > good quality so weren't shared. > > That's my tape backlog cleared. So what to do now... I have still a few > Derby Box tapes to re-rip (the Memorex ones with the dodgy pressure pads > from the first half of the box). But if anyone who got fed up with their > ripping projects fancies sending me the tapes I'd be happy to digitise and > return.. (Peel only) > > If not, might need to find a new hobby... > > Stuart > > > > > > From M.Luetchford@... Tue Oct 1 22:26:23 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Billy Bragg At The BBC In-Reply-To: References: <3FD3B80E-2326-42DA-8D2E-7030925F1497@...> Message-ID: <1250735605.2942481.1569961583385@...> did you get your answer? On Friday, 20 September 2019, 14:53:49 BST, RobF robfleay@... [peel] wrote:   There is a new Billy Bragg At The BBC compilation out today, which has many selections from his various Peel Sessions, along with some other pretty great BBC archive tracks What's currently got me confused thought is the last Peel Session track on the comp is a cover of the Lee Hays track called Lonesome Traveller - dated 8th December 2004.  Obviously this is after Peel's death, when Rob Da Bank was presenting. There is no mention of this track on the wiki for the 8th Dec 2004, so I guess that was the recording date at MV. It's not mentioned in Ken's book either I finally found it on the wiki for the show 23rd Dechttps://peel.fandom.com/wiki/23_December_2004_(Rob_Da_Bank) Where is is listed as a Peel Session track, but neither Ken's book or the wiki mention BB in specifically in session that  night (and it's the only BB track played) I suspect the answer is in the file, but the link on the wiki is dead and I can't immediately find it elsewhere Does anyone have it?Cheers PS - congrats to Stuart for finishing the Lee Tapes - I remember when he contacted me it seemed an insurmountable task! From timgiebel@... Tue Oct 1 23:20:26 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 21:20:26 +0000 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I’ve got a small number of tapes to do once I get my Nakamichi tape deck back. But every day I check my saved searches on eBay, and I check all the cassette listings on gumtree and Facebook marketplace, so if I spot anything, I will definitely buy them. Also, as I have a general interest in cassette tapes and reel to reel, I am always picking up job lots and going through them, and I occasionally find a Peel show or two. On 1 Oct 2019, at 21:16, RobF robfleay@ntlworld.com [peel] > wrote: I've been racking my brains as to how to encourage more people to share their old stashes of tapes. There must still be loads out there. Short of asking someone on Twitter with a lot of followers (hem hem - hello Mr Quantick) to put out an APB then I guess we're stuck scouring Gumtree and eBay On the subject of eBay, I had my dummy listing (pointing people at the wiki and asking if anyone had any tapes) removed yet again. I think they have periodic sweeps of all listings that contain links to external sites. On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 20:29, Mr M D Luetchford M.Luetchford@btopenworld.com [peel] > wrote: Real shame that you've run out of tapes to rip. Is no one on here sitting on some tapes wondering if they will ever find time to rip them? Mark On 30 September 2019, at 14:22, "'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel]" > wrote: I have done, but only on my various HDDs, that’s why I always name them beginning with yyyy-mm-dd, and rename the ones I download From: MLEFJ mlefj@yahoo.co.uk [peel] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:36 AM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Mystery Box Brilliant work Stuart. If you’re bored you should do what I’m thinking of doing. Getting all the shows (from various people’s folders) and putting them in chronological order for the whole of JP’s career. Then I can just listen to all the shows there are in a row... Starting with the earliest. You’ve probably already done this, I guess Thanks again to you and everyone who does all the work James On 30 Sep 2019, at 01:50, stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote: Well that didn't take long... MY10 contained an 85m continuous section of 29th November 2000, previously only some edited tracks from the Lee Tapes were available. Warning, the sound is bad and soon becomes atrocious bordering on unintelligible; this sounds like the tuner was mistuned. MY11 contained 71 mostly continuous minutes of 14th March 2001, again adding to the edited tracks from the Lee Tapes. It's interesting that both of these shows were very rare in having no shared audio, then like buses, two sources came along at once. There was also a very short snippet from a previous use of this tape, shared as March 2001 on the wiki. It's an unknown date. MY12 produced a mainly continuous section of 1st March 2001, though only 7 minutes are new. Finally MY14 added some edited tracks (with intros) to 10th September 1998. All the other tapes were duplicates of shows already available complete in good quality so weren't shared. That's my tape backlog cleared. So what to do now... I have still a few Derby Box tapes to re-rip (the Memorex ones with the dodgy pressure pads from the first half of the box). But if anyone who got fed up with their ripping projects fancies sending me the tapes I'd be happy to digitise and return.. (Peel only) If not, might need to find a new hobby... Stuart From stuartb@... Wed Oct 2 00:49:54 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 23:49:54 +0100 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <1F96FF73-02AD-4215-A595-A0273F9FA64F@...> I know for a fact that there are a few stalled cassette and reel to reel projects as some folks on here have lost interest so it would be good for us to pick these up On 1 October 2019 22:20:26 BST, "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@... [peel]" wrote: >I’ve got a small number of tapes to do once I get my Nakamichi tape >deck back. But every day I check my saved searches on eBay, and I check >all the cassette listings on gumtree and Facebook marketplace, so if I >spot anything, I will definitely buy them. Also, as I have a general >interest in cassette tapes and reel to reel, I am always picking up job >lots and going through them, and I occasionally find a Peel show or >two. > >On 1 Oct 2019, at 21:16, RobF >robfleay@... [peel] >> wrote: > > > >I've been racking my brains as to how to encourage more people to share >their old stashes of tapes. There must still be loads out there. > >Short of asking someone on Twitter with a lot of followers (hem hem - >hello Mr Quantick) to put out an APB then I guess we're stuck scouring >Gumtree and eBay > >On the subject of eBay, I had my dummy listing (pointing people at the >wiki and asking if anyone had any tapes) removed yet again. I think >they have periodic sweeps of all listings that contain links to >external sites. > > >On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 20:29, Mr M D Luetchford >M.Luetchford@... >[peel] > wrote: > >Real shame that you've run out of tapes to rip. Is no one on here >sitting on some tapes wondering if they will ever find time to rip >them? > >Mark > > >On 30 September 2019, at 14:22, "'Stuart Brooks' >stuartb@... [peel]" >> wrote: > > > > > > >I have done, but only on my various HDDs, that’s why I always name them >beginning with yyyy-mm-dd, and rename the ones I download > >From: MLEFJ mlefj@... [peel] >Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:36 AM >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [peel] Mystery Box > > > >Brilliant work Stuart. If you’re bored you should do what I’m thinking >of doing. Getting all the shows (from various people’s folders) and >putting them in chronological order for the whole of JP’s career. > >Then I can just listen to all the shows there are in a row... Starting >with the earliest. > >You’ve probably already done this, I guess > >Thanks again to you and everyone who does all the work > >James > >On 30 Sep 2019, at 01:50, stuartb@... [peel] > wrote: > > >Well that didn't take long... > >MY10 contained an 85m continuous section of 29th November 2000, >previously only some edited tracks from the Lee Tapes were available. >Warning, the sound is bad and soon becomes atrocious bordering on >unintelligible; this sounds like the tuner was mistuned. > >MY11 contained 71 mostly continuous minutes of 14th March 2001, again >adding to the edited tracks from the Lee Tapes. It's interesting that >both of these shows were very rare in having no shared audio, then like >buses, two sources came along at once. There was also a very short >snippet from a previous use of this tape, shared as March 2001 on the >wiki. It's an unknown date. > >MY12 produced a mainly continuous section of 1st March 2001, though >only 7 minutes are new. > >Finally MY14 added some edited tracks (with intros) to 10th September >1998. > >All the other tapes were duplicates of shows already available complete >in good quality so weren't shared. > >That's my tape backlog cleared. So what to do now... I have still a few >Derby Box tapes to re-rip (the Memorex ones with the dodgy pressure >pads from the first half of the box). But if anyone who got fed up with >their ripping projects fancies sending me the tapes I'd be happy to >digitise and return.. (Peel only) > >If not, might need to find a new hobby... > >Stuart From robfleay@... Wed Oct 2 10:19:53 2019 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 09:19:53 +0100 Subject: [peel] Billy Bragg At The BBC In-Reply-To: <1250735605.2942481.1569961583385@...> References: <3FD3B80E-2326-42DA-8D2E-7030925F1497@...> <1250735605.2942481.1569961583385@...> Message-ID: Nothing more than the useful info offered by Dr Mango. The only outstanding questions are whether this should really be considered a Peel Session track (ie was it recorded at a BBC studio specifically for the Peel Show) and if so did he record anything else at that session that was never broadcast. On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 21:26, MARK LUETCHFORD M.Luetchford@... [peel] wrote: > > > did you get your answer? > > On Friday, 20 September 2019, 14:53:49 BST, RobF robfleay@... > [peel] wrote: > > > > > > There is a new Billy Bragg At The BBC compilation out today, which has > many selections from his various Peel Sessions, along with some other > pretty great BBC archive tracks > > What's currently got me confused thought is the last Peel Session track on > the comp is a cover of the Lee Hays track called Lonesome Traveller - dated > 8th December 2004. > > Obviously this is after Peel's death, when Rob Da Bank was presenting. > There is no mention of this track on the wiki for the 8th Dec 2004, so I > guess that was the recording date at MV. It's not mentioned in Ken's book > either > > I finally found it on the wiki for the show 23rd Dec > https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/23_December_2004_(Rob_Da_Bank) > Where is is listed as a Peel Session track, but neither Ken's book or the > wiki mention BB in specifically in session that night (and it's the only > BB track played) > > I suspect the answer is in the file, but the link on the wiki is dead and > I can't immediately find it elsewhere > > Does anyone have it? > Cheers > > PS - congrats to Stuart for finishing the Lee Tapes - I remember when he > contacted me it seemed an insurmountable task! > > > > From jongemmell1@... Wed Oct 2 13:15:03 2019 From: jongemmell1@... (Jon Gemmell) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:15:03 +0100 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D181C36-8431-4B92-82EF-35519C04325A@...> Not sure if I fit your criteria, but here goes: I have a collection of some 50 or so tapes. I purchased a cheap analogue to digital tape converter but haven’t yet got round to doing anything, principally because I don’t know what I’m doing. Whilst the tapes come from the Peel Show with occasional Kershaw, I used to select the tracks I like rather than record the whole programme, so next to no dialogue. All the tapes are from the 1980s, an era that is covered well by the good people on this project. So, if anyone could send me an idiot’s guide I could have a crack myself sometime. Otherwise I would be happy to put in the hands of an expert. But like I said, don’t know if this is what you’re after. Best Jon. Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Oct 2019, at 21:10, RobF robfleay@... [peel] wrote: > > I've been racking my brains as to how to encourage more people to share their old stashes of tapes. There must still be loads out there. > > Short of asking someone on Twitter with a lot of followers (hem hem - hello Mr Quantick) to put out an APB then I guess we're stuck scouring Gumtree and eBay > > On the subject of eBay, I had my dummy listing (pointing people at the wiki and asking if anyone had any tapes) removed yet again. I think they have periodic sweeps of all listings that contain links to external sites. > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 20:29, Mr M D Luetchford M.Luetchford@... [peel] wrote: >> Real shame that you've run out of tapes to rip. Is no one on here sitting on some tapes wondering if they will ever find time to rip them? >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On 30 September 2019, at 14:22, "'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@... [peel]" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I have done, but only on my various HDDs, that’s why I always name them beginning with yyyy-mm-dd, and rename the ones I download >> >> From: MLEFJ mlefj@... [peel] >> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:36 AM >> To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [peel] Mystery Box >> >> >> Brilliant work Stuart. If you’re bored you should do what I’m thinking of doing. Getting all the shows (from various people’s folders) and putting them in chronological order for the whole of JP’s career. >> >> Then I can just listen to all the shows there are in a row... Starting with the earliest. >> >> You’ve probably already done this, I guess >> >> Thanks again to you and everyone who does all the work >> >> James >> >>> On 30 Sep 2019, at 01:50, stuartb@... [peel] wrote: >>> >>> >>> Well that didn't take long... >>> >>> MY10 contained an 85m continuous section of 29th November 2000, previously only some edited tracks from the Lee Tapes were available. Warning, the sound is bad and soon becomes atrocious bordering on unintelligible; this sounds like the tuner was mistuned. >>> >>> MY11 contained 71 mostly continuous minutes of 14th March 2001, again adding to the edited tracks from the Lee Tapes. It's interesting that both of these shows were very rare in having no shared audio, then like buses, two sources came along at once. There was also a very short snippet from a previous use of this tape, shared as March 2001 on the wiki. It's an unknown date. >>> >>> MY12 produced a mainly continuous section of 1st March 2001, though only 7 minutes are new. >>> >>> Finally MY14 added some edited tracks (with intros) to 10th September 1998. >>> >>> All the other tapes were duplicates of shows already available complete in good quality so weren't shared. >>> >>> That's my tape backlog cleared. So what to do now... I have still a few Derby Box tapes to re-rip (the Memorex ones with the dodgy pressure pads from the first half of the box). But if anyone who got fed up with their ripping projects fancies sending me the tapes I'd be happy to digitise and return.. (Peel only) >>> >>> If not, might need to find a new hobby... >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From timgiebel@... Wed Oct 2 13:28:44 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:28:44 +0000 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: <5D181C36-8431-4B92-82EF-35519C04325A@...> References: ,<5D181C36-8431-4B92-82EF-35519C04325A@...> Message-ID: Hi Jon, I would say that the cheap cassette converters are not really up to much, and won’t get the best out of those tapes, so it’s possible it might be better for Stuart or myself to digitise them, as we have Nakamichi decks. I’m sure Stuart will be in touch soon. It might be more his thing, as I prefer doing shows that are more complete, as those are easier for me to date. Thanks for letting us know about these :-) Tim On 2 Oct 2019, at 12:15, Jon Gemmell jongemmell1@yahoo.co.uk [peel] > wrote: Not sure if I fit your criteria, but here goes: I have a collection of some 50 or so tapes. I purchased a cheap analogue to digital tape converter but haven’t yet got round to doing anything, principally because I don’t know what I’m doing. Whilst the tapes come from the Peel Show with occasional Kershaw, I used to select the tracks I like rather than record the whole programme, so next to no dialogue. All the tapes are from the 1980s, an era that is covered well by the good people on this project. So, if anyone could send me an idiot’s guide I could have a crack myself sometime. Otherwise I would be happy to put in the hands of an expert. But like I said, don’t know if this is what you’re after. Best Jon. Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2019, at 21:10, RobF robfleay@ntlworld.com [peel] > wrote: I've been racking my brains as to how to encourage more people to share their old stashes of tapes. There must still be loads out there. Short of asking someone on Twitter with a lot of followers (hem hem - hello Mr Quantick) to put out an APB then I guess we're stuck scouring Gumtree and eBay On the subject of eBay, I had my dummy listing (pointing people at the wiki and asking if anyone had any tapes) removed yet again. I think they have periodic sweeps of all listings that contain links to external sites. On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 20:29, Mr M D Luetchford M.Luetchford@btopenworld.com [peel] > wrote: Real shame that you've run out of tapes to rip. Is no one on here sitting on some tapes wondering if they will ever find time to rip them? Mark On 30 September 2019, at 14:22, "'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel]" > wrote: I have done, but only on my various HDDs, that’s why I always name them beginning with yyyy-mm-dd, and rename the ones I download From: MLEFJ mlefj@yahoo.co.uk [peel] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:36 AM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Mystery Box Brilliant work Stuart. If you’re bored you should do what I’m thinking of doing. Getting all the shows (from various people’s folders) and putting them in chronological order for the whole of JP’s career. Then I can just listen to all the shows there are in a row.... Starting with the earliest. You’ve probably already done this, I guess Thanks again to you and everyone who does all the work James On 30 Sep 2019, at 01:50, stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote: Well that didn't take long... MY10 contained an 85m continuous section of 29th November 2000, previously only some edited tracks from the Lee Tapes were available. Warning, the sound is bad and soon becomes atrocious bordering on unintelligible; this sounds like the tuner was mistuned. MY11 contained 71 mostly continuous minutes of 14th March 2001, again adding to the edited tracks from the Lee Tapes. It's interesting that both of these shows were very rare in having no shared audio, then like buses, two sources came along at once. There was also a very short snippet from a previous use of this tape, shared as March 2001 on the wiki. It's an unknown date. MY12 produced a mainly continuous section of 1st March 2001, though only 7 minutes are new. Finally MY14 added some edited tracks (with intros) to 10th September 1998. All the other tapes were duplicates of shows already available complete in good quality so weren't shared. That's my tape backlog cleared. So what to do now... I have still a few Derby Box tapes to re-rip (the Memorex ones with the dodgy pressure pads from the first half of the box). But if anyone who got fed up with their ripping projects fancies sending me the tapes I'd be happy to digitise and return... (Peel only) If not, might need to find a new hobby... Stuart From stuartb@... Wed Oct 2 16:30:24 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 02 Oct 2019 07:30:24 -0700 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: <5D181C36-8431-4B92-82EF-35519C04325A@...> References: <5D181C36-8431-4B92-82EF-35519C04325A@...> Message-ID: Hi John. I really don't know much about how these cheap converters work, I assume you just connect them via USB and you end up with an mp3 file using the software provided. If you then have an mp3 file on your PC or laptop you can upload to where we put our files, on the Mooo server. There's a link to an upload form on this webpage here http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/incoming/Upload.html http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/incoming/Upload.html and you will also see there is an option to request a user folder and you then get a password for ftp upload, which is handy if you have a lot of uploads. As Tim says the quality of the cheap converters is variable, sometimes poor, but you could maybe upload one of the tapes to see what it's like. What equipment were they recorded on? But I'm more than willing to do all the work myself if you are happy to send me the tapes. There's probably a very good chance that many of your tapes will be new, as only about a third of the 80s has been found so far. And with some tracklistings available for unshared shows then it would be possible to date some of them too. Stuart From stuartb@... Wed Oct 2 23:28:45 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 02 Oct 2019 14:28:45 -0700 Subject: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip Message-ID: Just uploaded another couple of re-rips from Derby Box Tape 91 (there are a few Memorex tapes from the other half of the box that had suffered from dodgy pressure pads so giving them the Nakamichi treatment). 16th and 17th July 1979. Usual place. From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Oct 3 23:17:16 2019 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512@...) Date: 03 Oct 2019 14:17:16 -0700 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: <1F96FF73-02AD-4215-A595-A0273F9FA64F@...> References: , <1F96FF73-02AD-4215-A595-A0273F9FA64F@...> Message-ID: There are at least four people on here who used to send me Peel shows to document and introduce to the group, but who have not been in contact for some time. In addition, I have quite a few Carsten full BFBS shows covering 1998-2000 and am only just over halfway through the Dirk compilations. Steve (TK) From colinbray@... Thu Oct 3 23:56:31 2019 From: colinbray@... (Colin Bray) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 21:56:31 +0000 Subject: [peel] Mystery Box In-Reply-To: References: , <1F96FF73-02AD-4215-A595-A0273F9FA64F@...>, Message-ID: Hi Steve, Yep, as the owner of the '500 Box' (or as I later calculated, the '750 Box') we used to work in harness to get shows out there. I took an extended break when a flood of contemporaneous shows appeared from other sources. Watching as these tapes were digitised and shared I believe the vast majority of the 500 box is now available on the wiki. A small handful of tapes may still harbour original material but these now sit in the loft behind thousands of comics and other signs of a life wasted. If the 90s well is truly dry I'll steel myself to go back in and cross-reference my collection with what is still missing. It might take a month or two so more anon. Cheers, Colin. ________________________________ From: peel@yahoogroups.com on behalf of so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 10:17:16 PM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Mystery Box There are at least four people on here who used to send me Peel shows to document and introduce to the group, but who have not been in contact for some time. In addition, I have quite a few Carsten full BFBS shows covering 1998-2000 and am only just over halfway through the Dirk compilations. Steve (TK) From stuartb@... Fri Oct 4 14:19:45 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 04 Oct 2019 12:19:45 +0000 Subject: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And the 20th July 1979 from Tape 95 From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 4 17:29:24 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 15:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1004209986.5227542.1570202964094@...> Thanks Stuart, do you mean the 30th ? On Friday, 4 October 2019, 13:20:13 BST, stuartb@... [peel] wrote:   And the 20th July 1979 from Tape 95 From stuartb@... Fri Oct 4 18:19:58 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:19:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip In-Reply-To: <1004209986.5227542.1570202964094@...> References: <1004209986.5227542.1570202964094@...> Message-ID: Yes On 4 October 2019 16:29:24 BST, "Mike Parker parkermike81@... [peel]" wrote: > Thanks Stuart, do you mean the 30th ? >On Friday, 4 October 2019, 13:20:13 BST, stuartb@... >[peel] wrote: > >   >And the 20th July 1979 from Tape 95 > From johnpeel3904@... Wed Oct 9 10:36:00 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 09 Oct 2019 01:36:00 -0700 Subject: 03 March 1991 audio Message-ID: Does anyone have File 1 from the 03 March 1991 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/03_March_1991 show? From johnpeel3904@... Wed Oct 9 19:11:49 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 09 Oct 2019 17:11:49 +0000 Subject: 03 March 1991 audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Found the file. It was at the Perfumed Garden blog site below http://theperfumedgarden.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_22.html http://theperfumedgarden.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_22.html From simonhamley@... Thu Oct 10 04:08:33 2019 From: simonhamley@... (Simon Hamley) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:08:33 +1300 Subject: Re up request Message-ID: Hi, Ive been enjoying the recordings from 1981, but there's a couple that are expired Mediafire/Rapidshare links. The files are: John Peel - Bow Wow Wow 81 (covers 9th and 10th Feb 81) and _289_810727b.aif.mp3 which covers 27th July 81 If anyone has these somewhere, could they upload them to the mooo please Cheers in advance, Simon From dan54321@... Thu Oct 10 18:31:48 2019 From: dan54321@... (Dan) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:31:48 +0100 Subject: 10 Oct 1984 audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D9F5CF4.3040308@...> Someone on the Retro Radio facebook group just posted this, I don't see it mentioned on the wiki... https://www.mixcloud.com/archiverecordings/vpro-h3-1984-10-10-2000-2109-john-peel-eerste-show-eerste-show From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 10 20:53:57 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 10 Oct 2019 11:53:57 -0700 Subject: 10 Oct 1984 audio In-Reply-To: <5D9F5CF4.3040308@...> References: <5D9F5CF4.3040308@...> Message-ID: The VPRO show hosted by John Peel is already on the wiki site. I know that because I was the first to upload it and it looks like somebody decided to download it from the wiki and put it on mixcloud. Here is the VPRO show on the wiki site below: https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/10_October_1984_(VPRO) https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/10_October_1984_(VPRO) From dan54321@... Fri Oct 11 12:20:18 2019 From: dan54321@... (Dan) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:20:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 10 Oct 1984 audio In-Reply-To: References: <5D9F5CF4.3040308@...> Message-ID: <5DA05762.30406@...> Ah ok, sorry. I went to the calendar page and selected 1984, then 10 oct, and there was nothing there. Looking again I see I should have done - other shows > non uk > more... etc... johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote: > > > The VPRO show hosted by John Peel is already on the wiki site. I know > that because I was the first to upload it and it looks like somebody > decided to download it from the wiki and put it on mixcloud. Here is > the VPRO show on the wiki site below: > > > https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/10_October_1984_(VPRO) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From stuartb@... Sat Oct 12 16:01:16 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 12 Oct 2019 07:01:16 -0700 Subject: [peel] Re: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip In-Reply-To: References: <1004209986.5227542.1570202964094@...> Message-ID: I've re-ripped the 13th and 18th September 1979 (the original version of the 18th had gone very squiffy at the start) but the 19th original file sounds fine to me. From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 12 23:16:46 2019 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81@...) Date: 12 Oct 2019 14:16:46 -0700 Subject: [peel] Re: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip In-Reply-To: References: <1004209986.5227542.1570202964094@...> Message-ID: Appreciate the work Stuart, if you don't mind taking a look at the 1979-09-18 as it seems to have a sound drop out from 1.31.55 to 1.33.47 From stuartb@... Sat Oct 12 23:38:45 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 22:38:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Derby Box 16 17 July 1979 re-rip In-Reply-To: References: <1004209986.5227542.1570202964094@...> Message-ID: Think that's just a larger than normal tape flip edit I forgot to edit out, I did wonder why it was a minute longer than the original file as usually they are a bit shorter due to the originals running a shade slow. On 12 October 2019 22:16:46 BST, "parkermike81@... [peel]" wrote: >Appreciate the work Stuart, if you don't mind taking a look at the >1979-09-18 as it seems to have a sound drop out from 1.31.55 to 1.33.47 From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 15:22:55 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 13:22:55 +0000 Subject: Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? Message-ID: I have found a YouTube video, where Peel is going to play a session track from Boxer. I had originally thought it was from 10 November 1975 or a repeated session from 30 January 1976, but the audio doesn't seem to sound like it's from those dates, because he refers the session as it was sometime ago. Here is the audio below, it starts at the beginning of the video, please let me know where you think this show comes from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqHIF_ylj8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqHIF_ylj8 From timgiebel@... Thu Oct 17 15:50:01 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:50:01 +0000 Subject: [peel] Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: J P mention that they now have twice as much time on the radio, so do you know when his shows were increased in length or in regularity around that time? I would have said by the tonality of his voice it is definitely not much later than 1976 On 17 Oct 2019, at 14:28, johnpeel3904@yahoo.co.uk [peel] wrote:  I have found a YouTube video, where Peel is going to play a session track from Boxer. I had originally thought it was from 10 November 1975 or a repeated session from 30 January 1976, but the audio doesn't seem to sound like it's from those dates, because he refers the session as it was sometime ago. Here is the audio below, it starts at the beginning of the video, please let me know where you think this show comes from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqHIF_ylj8 From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 16:34:07 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 07:34:07 -0700 Subject: [peel] Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: According to Ken Garner's Peel Session book, Peel's show got 5 nights a week from 29th September 1975. The Boxer session was first broadcast on 10th November 1975 (there was no other bands doing that session on that show according to Ken Garner's book) and repeated on 30th January 1976 (also no other bands doing a session on that show according to Ken Garner's book). But on the audio, Peel says that he'll play two classic sessions, one of them is Boxer. The way he said it, sounds like Boxer's session was done some years ago. There is a possibility that the audio maybe a show from the early 80's called Peel's Pleasures, where he did have archive 70's session tracks played, but the voice of that doesn't match the one in the audio. In the early 80's, Peel's voice was quite different from his pre-punk 70's shows, so it can't be that. From mickcapewell@... Thu Oct 17 16:36:37 2019 From: mickcapewell@... (mickcapewell@...) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 15:36:37 +0100 Subject: [peel] Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C8C159B-EE53-4FA4-8BF7-885347EA816A@...> Another Rock Week recording perhaps? Sent from my iPhone > On 17 Oct 2019, at 15:34, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote: > > According to Ken Garner's Peel Session book, Peel's show got 5 nights a week from 29th September 1975. The Boxer session was first broadcast on 10th November 1975 (there was no other bands doing that session on that show according to Ken Garner's book) and repeated on 30th January 1976 (also no other bands doing a session on that show according to Ken Garner's book). But on the audio, Peel says that he'll play two classic sessions, one of them is Boxer. The way he said it, sounds like Boxer's session was done some years ago. > > > There is a possibility that the audio maybe a show from the early 80's called Peel's Pleasures, where he did have archive 70's session tracks played, but the voice of that doesn't match the one in the audio. In the early 80's, Peel's voice was quite different from his pre-punk 70's shows, so it can't be that. > From robfleay@... Thu Oct 17 16:41:55 2019 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 15:41:55 +0100 Subject: [peel] Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: According to Ken's book he went to from 2 nights a week to 5 nights a week from 29 September 1975 You're right it can't be the first play of that session on 10 Nov 1975, but is more likely to be the repeat from January 1976 On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 14:50, Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@... [peel] wrote: > > > J P mention that they now have twice as much time on the radio, so do you > know when his shows were increased in length or in regularity around that > time? I would have said by the tonality of his voice it is definitely not > much later than 1976 > > On 17 Oct 2019, at 14:28, johnpeel3904@... [peel] < > peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >  > > I have found a YouTube video, where Peel is going to play a session track > from Boxer. I had originally thought it was from 10 November 1975 or a > repeated session from 30 January 1976, but the audio doesn't seem to sound > like it's from those dates, because he refers the session as it was > sometime ago. Here is the audio below, it starts at the beginning of the > video, please let me know where you think this show comes from? > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqHIF_ylj8 > > > > From webbiewebbster@... Thu Oct 17 16:46:28 2019 From: webbiewebbster@... (webbiewebbster@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 14:46:28 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue Message-ID: Going to have to find a new home for these messages, this is an ex-parrot https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 16:48:08 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 14:48:08 +0000 Subject: [peel] Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: <8C8C159B-EE53-4FA4-8BF7-885347EA816A@...> References: <8C8C159B-EE53-4FA4-8BF7-885347EA816A@...> Message-ID: It can't be Rock Week, because that lasted from January 1975 until September 1975. The Boxer session was first broadcast on 10th November 1975. In the audio, I've noticed Peel says "we're hoping to go back through our archives as it were, into the past of this programme and into the past of Top Gear to dig out classic sessions and replay them for you" Top Gear I believe ended in September 1975. Boxer's first broadcast was 10th November 1975 and was repeated on 30th January 1976. If it was 30th January 1976, would you say "dig out classic sessions and replay them for you". I wouldn't and I don't think Peel would say that if it was a 30th January 1976 show. From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 16:55:28 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 14:55:28 +0000 Subject: Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: <8C8C159B-EE53-4FA4-8BF7-885347EA816A@...> Message-ID: Or perhaps Peel was being sarcastic when saying "dig out classic sessions and replay them for you". You might be right, there is a possibility it could be 30th January 1976, but it's the tone of what Peel says, makes it confusing. From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 17:02:05 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 15:02:05 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think Reddit is basically the new Yahoo Group, but one thing I've noticed with Reddit, I maybe wrong, is that you have to wait I think for several days to create a post, which people can reply to. You can post a reply to someone who has made a comment, but you can't create a new post like for example John Peel's Shows, until several days when you first join Reddit. From webbiewebbster@... Thu Oct 17 17:11:43 2019 From: webbiewebbster@... (webbiewebbster@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 15:11:43 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is Google Groups. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview The concern there though that google might decide the same fate as this one eventually. (Also you need a gmail/google account to access) From robfleay@... Thu Oct 17 17:16:32 2019 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:16:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: <8C8C159B-EE53-4FA4-8BF7-885347EA816A@...> Message-ID: Could be 20th April 1977 when he repeated the Boxer session? The nearest snippet of show that I could find to that date is another April 1977 show. Hard to compare as this one is much less muffled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPKt5L0U6vw But it certainly looks like around that time he was digging out more old sessions to play alongside the new sessions On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 15:55, johnpeel3904@... [peel] < peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Or perhaps Peel was being sarcastic when saying "dig out classic sessions > and replay them for you". You might be right, there is a possibility it > could be 30th January 1976, but it's the tone of what Peel says, makes it > confusing. > > From stuartb@... Thu Oct 17 17:17:44 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:17:44 +0100 Subject: [peel] Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 20th April 1977? Switched to 2 hour shows on the 4th. On 17 October 2019 14:50:01 BST, "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@... [peel]" wrote: >J P mention that they now have twice as much time on the radio, so do >you know when his shows were increased in length or in regularity >around that time? I would have said by the tonality of his voice it is >definitely not much later than 1976 > >On 17 Oct 2019, at 14:28, johnpeel3904@... [peel] > wrote: > > > >I have found a YouTube video, where Peel is going to play a session >track from Boxer. I had originally thought it was from 10 November 1975 >or a repeated session from 30 January 1976, but the audio doesn't seem >to sound like it's from those dates, because he refers the session as >it was sometime ago. Here is the audio below, it starts at the >beginning of the video, please let me know where you think this show >comes from? > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqHIF_ylj8 From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 17:19:18 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 15:19:18 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've heard of Google Groups, but I don't know anyone that uses it. I think Google as with some of their other products would probably closed it down, because not many people use it that much. Reddit is the one that is the most popular, but Reddit needs to get used to, because it has the problem of waiting for several days to create a topic when you first join them. But once it's done then it's plain sailing. From webbiewebbster@... Thu Oct 17 17:34:13 2019 From: webbiewebbster@... (webbiewebbster@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 15:34:13 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm a member of https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeelSessions/ https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeelSessions/ But https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeel/ https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeel/ would be a better place ? I'll go where everyone else is though ! From stuartb@... Thu Oct 17 18:03:23 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:03:23 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These reddits both seem to be repositories of already shared session Youtube links. I certainly use Google Groups, migrated there when Newsgroups using news readers became not a thing. Maybe we should create a group called Peel Mailing List or Peel Yahoo Group, either there or on Reddit. On 17 October 2019 16:34:13 BST, "webbiewebbster@... [peel]" wrote: >I'm a member of https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeelSessions/ >https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeelSessions/ But >https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeel/ https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeel/ >would be a better place ? > I'll go where everyone else is though ! From M.Luetchford@... Thu Oct 17 18:05:59 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (m.luetchford) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:05:59 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue Message-ID: so will i but the more pressing issue is how we are going to preserve the content! the article says they will send us the content BUT i dont think we should trust them and who has enough memory storage to do this?is setting up a website a crazy idea? i wouldn't know how and might limit the ability to share upload and site management duties and might make us more public than we want to be or conversely might help others find us.markSent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: "webbiewebbster@yahoo.com [peel]" Date: 17/10/2019 16:34 (GMT+00:00) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue   I'm a member of https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeelSessions/But https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnPeel/ would be a better place ?I'll go where everyone else is though ! From dr_mango2004@... Thu Oct 17 18:16:37 2019 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <761878196.4952473.1571328997048@...> The article says: "Once the old content is deleted, all you’ll be able to do on Yahoo Groups is browse the groups directory, request to be invited to one, and, if you’re in a group, email that group." Doesn't this suggest that we can continue as we have been doing, sending emails to the group? Apart from the occasional upload to the files section, this group doesn't use the other functionality that it would appear is being withdrawn. DM On Thursday, 17 October 2019, 15:47:15 BST, webbiewebbster@yahoo.com [peel] wrote:   Going to have to find a new home for these messages, this is an ex-parrot https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities v4051975795hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:12v4051975795activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdan {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;hotos div div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;widsize:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}v4051975795 From johnpeel3904@... Thu Oct 17 18:03:23 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 09:03:23 -0700 Subject: Another mysterious audio featuring Peel. Any ideas where it comes from? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks guys, yes I think there is strong evidence that the audio is from 20th April 1977. It seems plausible, as Peel is referring to the Boxer session as if it was sometime ago (more than a year) and also as Stuart says, the amount of hours per show was increased to 2 hours from 4th July 1977, which Peel makes a reference to in terms of the number of hours doubled. From robfleay@... Thu Oct 17 18:45:19 2019 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:45:19 +0100 Subject: [peel] Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: <761878196.4952473.1571328997048@...> References: <761878196.4952473.1571328997048@...> Message-ID: It's not 100% clear - it says: Here’s Yahoo’s list of what it will remove: - Files - Polls - Links - Photos - Folders - Calendar - Database - Attachments - Conversations - Email Updates - Message Digest - Message History I know we have had a few bits and pieces in the Files section, but the rest is unused apart from the archive of the mail conversations - which has been quite useful when going back to try and remember what was said about some obscure thing or other in 2007! But yes for now it looks like the email functionality will continue Question is whether people want to move to a web-based platform, There are the Reddit groups, plus several Facebook groups, but I suspect a lot of us are happy to just stay as we are. Setting up our own ListServ should be fairly straightforward - I'll do some digging On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 17:16, Dr Mango dr_mango2004@... [peel] < peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > The article says: > > "Once the old content is deleted, all you’ll be able to do on Yahoo Groups > is browse the groups directory, request to be invited to one, and, if > you’re in a group, email that group." > > Doesn't this suggest that we can continue as we have been doing, sending > emails to the group? Apart from the occasional upload to the files section, > this group doesn't use the other functionality that it would appear is > being withdrawn. > > DM > On Thursday, 17 October 2019, 15:47:15 BST, webbiewebbster@... > [peel] wrote: > > > > > Going to have to find a new home for these messages, this is an ex-parrot > > > https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities > > > > From grafpoo@... Thu Oct 17 19:46:28 2019 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:46:28 -0400 Subject: [peel] Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: <761878196.4952473.1571328997048@...> Message-ID: i think it's debatable as to how long yahhogroups will exist in a new extremely neutered sense. most groups i belong to are opting for groups.io. from what i've seen, and i apologize if i am repeating things already known, with groups.io we can start a new group for free (as long as content size remains under 1GB), or we can get a premium group for $110/year, which will allow us to transfer everything, including members, as long as one of the yahoo group admins sends an invite to a specific groups.io email, and then gives it moderator access. the premium fee need only be paid the first year for the transfer if that's all we need it for. happy to help set this up, but i don't know who our admins and moderators are for the current yahoo group john On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:47 PM RobF robfleay@... [peel] < peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > It's not 100% clear - it says: > > Here’s Yahoo’s list of what it will remove: > > - Files > - Polls > - Links > - Photos > - Folders > - Calendar > - Database > - Attachments > - Conversations > - Email Updates > - Message Digest > - Message History > > I know we have had a few bits and pieces in the Files section, but the > rest is unused apart from the archive of the mail conversations - which has > been quite useful when going back to try and remember what was said about > some obscure thing or other in 2007! > > But yes for now it looks like the email functionality will continue > > Question is whether people want to move to a web-based platform, There are > the Reddit groups, plus several Facebook groups, but I suspect a lot of us > are happy to just stay as we are. Setting up our own ListServ should be > fairly straightforward - I'll do some digging > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 17:16, Dr Mango dr_mango2004@... [peel] < > peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> The article says: >> >> "Once the old content is deleted, all you’ll be able to do on Yahoo >> Groups is browse the groups directory, request to be invited to one, and, >> if you’re in a group, email that group." >> >> Doesn't this suggest that we can continue as we have been doing, sending >> emails to the group? Apart from the occasional upload to the files section, >> this group doesn't use the other functionality that it would appear is >> being withdrawn. >> >> DM >> On Thursday, 17 October 2019, 15:47:15 BST, webbiewebbster@... >> [peel] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Going to have to find a new home for these messages, this is an ex-parrot >> >> >> https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities >> >> >> >> > From iaparkin@... Thu Oct 17 23:41:53 2019 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 14:41:53 -0700 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Preserving the content. I have been using a tool called PG Offline http://www.personalgroupware.com/ to download the conversations, files and photos from this and a number of other Yahoo Groups that I am a member of. The files, links and photos are download as files within a folder structure on disk and the conversations/posts are loaded into a SQLLite database from which they can be extracted and parsed. At the moment I have the following downloaded/archived. Conversations/Posts = 24,432 Files = 104 / 101 MB Photos = 140 / 30MB Links = 28 As was mentioned previously, groups.io appears to have functionality to migrate data. It would seem worth doing this just have an online backup. From iaparkin@... Thu Oct 17 23:52:50 2019 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin@...) Date: 17 Oct 2019 14:52:50 -0700 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It appears that transfers to groups.io are not free, they require a premium or enterprise subscription - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups From stuart@... Fri Oct 18 01:14:54 2019 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 00:14:54 +0100 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: <1571328212.1174.4012.m9@yahoogroups.com> References: <1571328212.1174.4012.m9@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: > Going to have to find a new home for these messages, this is an ex-parrot > https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/16/20917710/yahoo-groups-deleting-all-content-upload-message-boards-email-communities?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter Well, nice to them to let us know! (As group ownerr, I’ve heard nothing). Will be sad to see it go but to be honest the mechanism for the list has neen in decline since Yahoo took over eGroups in 2000 (this list was set up probably around 1998 or so as an eGroup). Not sure what to suggest - Google Groups aren’t very widely used, and I don’t really get the way Reddit operates in terms of the moderation of topics. A couple of groups from ‘back in the day’ went to running mailservers but that requires someone with the space, expertise, capacity and time to administer them. But I suppose if someone comes up with something that works then great… S From grafpoo@... Fri Oct 18 02:06:31 2019 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 20:06:31 -0400 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yes, it's $110 to use the groups.io migration tool. probably better than trying to cajole you into uploading all that content, heh On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:57 PM iaparkin@... [peel] < peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > It appears that transfers to groups.io are not free, they require a > premium or enterprise subscription - > https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups > > From iaparkin@... Fri Oct 18 05:10:16 2019 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin@...) Date: 18 Oct 2019 03:10:16 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The files, photos and links are easy enough to make available online. as they are flat files. I can also upload the posts somewhere either as a dump of the SQLLite database, flat files or something similar. The PG software has a number of options for exporting to flat files, but they are pretty simplistic date ordered dumps. An example of a HTML formatted dump page is here - https://bit.ly/2nZB3ee https://bit.ly/2nZB3ee. The messages are presented 50 per page, so 489 files and 96MB in total, with each page having a pretty ugly header with the text of the individual posts appearing below. Making the post available in a more readable readable threaded format will take a little bit more effort, but that is also doable. NB - There are also options for exporting as SQLLite and MySQL dumps, but they unfortunately crash the PG program on my desktop. ---In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote : yes, it's $110 to use the groups.io http://groups.io migration tool. probably better than trying to cajole you into uploading all that content, heh On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:57 PM iaparkin@... mailto:iaparkin@... [peel] wrote: It appears that transfers to groups.io http://groups.io are not free, they require a premium or enterprise subscription - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups From grafpoo@... Fri Oct 18 20:31:46 2019 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:31:46 -0400 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: so are folks interested in moving to groups.io? it's pretty simple to do, a couple of other groups i'm involved with have done so with minimal fuss. again, whether we move content (which would cost $110) or not, we need an admin or moderator to chime in john On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:15 PM iaparkin@... [peel] < peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > The files, photos and links are easy enough to make available online. as > they are flat files. I can also upload the posts somewhere either as a > dump of the SQLLite database, flat files or something similar. > > The PG software has a number of options for exporting to flat files, but > they are pretty simplistic date ordered dumps. An example of a HTML > formatted dump page is here - https://bit.ly/2nZB3ee. The messages are > presented 50 per page, so 489 files and 96MB in total, with each page > having a pretty ugly header with the text of the individual posts appearing > below. > > Making the post available in a more readable readable threaded format will > take a little bit more effort, but that is also doable. > > NB - There are also options for exporting as SQLLite and MySQL dumps, but > they unfortunately crash the PG program on my desktop. > > > ---In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > yes, it's $110 to use the groups.io migration tool. probably better than > trying to cajole you into uploading all that content, heh > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:57 PM iaparkin@... [peel] > wrote: > > > > It appears that transfers to groups.io are not free, they require a > premium or enterprise subscription - > https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups > > > From paul@... Fri Oct 18 21:12:27 2019 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:12:27 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If the files could be copied to somewhere else, like the Peel Wiki, then I think a move would not be needed (for now at least). Paul On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:31:46 -0400, you wrote: >so are folks interested in moving to groups.io? it's pretty simple to do, a >couple of other groups i'm involved with have done so with minimal fuss. > >again, whether we move content (which would cost $110) or not, we need an >admin or moderator to chime in > >john > > >On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:15 PM iaparkin@... [peel] < >peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> The files, photos and links are easy enough to make available online. as >> they are flat files. I can also upload the posts somewhere either as a >> dump of the SQLLite database, flat files or something similar. >> >> The PG software has a number of options for exporting to flat files, but >> they are pretty simplistic date ordered dumps. An example of a HTML >> formatted dump page is here - https://bit.ly/2nZB3ee. The messages are >> presented 50 per page, so 489 files and 96MB in total, with each page >> having a pretty ugly header with the text of the individual posts appearing >> below. >> >> Making the post available in a more readable readable threaded format will >> take a little bit more effort, but that is also doable. >> >> NB - There are also options for exporting as SQLLite and MySQL dumps, but >> they unfortunately crash the PG program on my desktop. >> >> >> ---In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote : >> >> yes, it's $110 to use the groups.io migration tool. probably better than >> trying to cajole you into uploading all that content, heh >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:57 PM iaparkin@... [peel] >> wrote: >> >> >> >> It appears that transfers to groups.io are not free, they require a >> premium or enterprise subscription - >> https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups >> >> >> From saipanda@... Sat Oct 19 06:32:35 2019 From: saipanda@... (saipanda@...) Date: 19 Oct 2019 04:32:35 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Further to Paul's point, I thought of the Wiki as a possible solution as well, but don't think this would really work. - As far as I know, there is no mail groups function on the wiki, so we couldn't just migrate the group over there as it stands. The wiki does, though, have a Forums section, which could be used to keep the group in emergency contact if the existing Yahoo group is suddenly shut down, while something else is being worked out. - In terms of the wiki as a possible backup archive, while a new site for the group is found or the mail list alone continues, I don't think there is any simple way to dump everything over there from here in terms of messages and files. - I wondered whether the Wayback Machine at archive.org might be a solution for an archive in the event the Yahoo group suddenly vanishes, but they don't seem to have anything indexed (because it's a closed group?). From stuart@... Sat Oct 19 13:29:10 2019 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:29:10 +0100 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: <1571456281.106.6015.m7@yahoogroups.com> References: <1571456281.106.6015.m7@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <2A3436A7-41BD-4296-9832-AE7110878049@...> > 1a. Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue > Posted by: "john guthrie" grafpoo@... grafpoo > Date: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:36 am ((PDT)) > > so are folks interested in moving to groups.io? it's pretty simple to do, a > couple of other groups i'm involved with have done so with minimal fuss. > > again, whether we move content (which would cost $110) or not, we need an > admin or moderator to chime in If the concensus is to move elsewhere then that’s obviously fine, but might be easier if I gave someone else admin or moderator rights. If anyone wants that honour / albatross, that is… (am surprised but pleased that no-one suggested Facebook!) (I set the group up originally more as a discussion for, well, what Peel played last night, that kind of thing, and I’ve really been a lurker in later years as I’ve not been involved much with distributing or ripping show tapes - been there done that in the 90s! - which is of course the main business of the group nowadays). S From paul@... Sat Oct 19 14:38:31 2019 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 14:38:31 +0200 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: <2A3436A7-41BD-4296-9832-AE7110878049@...> References: <1571456281.106.6015.m7@yahoogroups.com> <2A3436A7-41BD-4296-9832-AE7110878049@...> Message-ID: <1FF68E69-3CB9-4280-AC76-F9CDAA5B5F1A@...> I don’t think there is a need to move for the core function of email. However, it would be prudent for a group admin to login to the web interface and request a dump of the Files and, at worst, that archive could be stored on Mooo until a more useable location is found for it. It won’t be very big if it does not include the email history. Paul On 19 Oct 2019, at 13:29, Stuart Mchugh stuart@... [peel] wrote: >> 1a. Re: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue >> Posted by: "john guthrie" grafpoo@... grafpoo >> Date: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:36 am ((PDT)) >> >> so are folks interested in moving to groups.io? it's pretty simple to do, a >> couple of other groups i'm involved with have done so with minimal fuss. >> >> again, whether we move content (which would cost $110) or not, we need an >> admin or moderator to chime in > > If the concensus is to move elsewhere then that’s obviously fine, but might be easier if I gave someone else admin or moderator rights. If anyone wants that honour / albatross, that is… (am surprised but pleased that no-one suggested Facebook!) > > (I set the group up originally more as a discussion for, well, what Peel played last night, that kind of thing, and I’ve really been a lurker in later years as I’ve not been involved much with distributing or ripping show tapes - been there done that in the 90s! - which is of course the main business of the group nowadays). > > S > > > > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: Stuart Mchugh > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Oct 20 10:57:45 2019 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512@...) Date: 20 Oct 2019 08:57:45 +0000 Subject: More BFBS files Message-ID: Hi everyone I've finally stirred my stumps enough to get two more BFBS items out to you. Peel 197 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/Peel_197_(BFBS) is another Dirk recording from October 1991, and from Carsten a complete show, 21 August 1997 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/21_August_1997_(BFBS). Enjoy. Best wishes Steve (TK) From parkermike81@... Mon Oct 21 17:46:37 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Bop On References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> Message-ID: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> 77-79 From johnpeel3904@... Tue Oct 22 03:06:49 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 22 Oct 2019 01:06:49 +0000 Subject: Bop On In-Reply-To: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> Message-ID: All wikified on the Peel Fandom site below PS: There are lots of silences on part 2 of Best Of Peel Vol 79 !! Best Of Peel Vol 77 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_77 Best Of Peel Vol 78 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_78 Best Of Peel Vol 79 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_79 From parkermike81@... Tue Oct 22 11:36:47 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> Message-ID: <405240171.7979594.1571737007132@...> The hazards of CD errors, [corrected] file sent to Mooo. On Tuesday, 22 October 2019, 03:19:18 BST, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote:   All wikified on the Peel Fandom site belowPS: There are lots of silences on part 2 of Best Of Peel Vol 79 !! Best Of Peel Vol 77Best Of Peel Vol 78Best Of Peel Vol 79 From johnpeel3904@... Tue Oct 22 14:33:43 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 22 Oct 2019 12:33:43 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <405240171.7979594.1571737007132@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <405240171.7979594.1571737007132@...> Message-ID: Thanks, tracklisting has been amended. From stuartb@... Fri Oct 25 06:19:25 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 25 Oct 2019 04:19:25 +0000 Subject: Bop On In-Reply-To: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> Message-ID: How did the two random 1989 tracks get in there?! From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 25 10:34:42 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> Message-ID: <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> Not sure, maybe just to pad out the tape from another. While your here Stuart to save me uploading, can you identify a peel track with a rather posh lady speaks throughout with one line towards the end ‘’i’ll have to phone Rupert now, what a tedious bloody bore’’?Siri e.t.c couldn’t identify. On Friday, 25 October 2019, 05:19:31 BST, stuartb@... [peel] wrote:   How did the two random 1989 tracks get in there?! From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 25 10:38:54 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <405240171.7979594.1571737007132@...> Message-ID: <1720421480.150605.1571992734470@...> Much obliged John. On Tuesday, 22 October 2019, 13:54:17 BST, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote:   Thanks, tracklisting has been amended. From johnpeel3904@... Fri Oct 25 15:30:22 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 25 Oct 2019 13:30:22 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> Message-ID: "Not sure, maybe just to pad out the tape from another. While your here Stuart to save me uploading, can you identify a peel track with a rather posh lady speaks throughout with one line towards the end ‘’i’ll have to phone Rupert now, what a tedious bloody bore’’? Siri e.t.c couldn’t identify." MIKE PARKER Where is that line comes from on the audio? I've not heard it, unless I missed it ?? From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 25 16:01:41 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> Message-ID: <2011605536.443532.1572012101897@...> No it’s on another tape i found with some peel at the end. On Friday, 25 October 2019, 14:39:21 BST, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote:   "Not sure, maybe just to pad out the tape from another. While your here Stuart to save me uploading, can you identify a peel track with a rather posh lady speaks throughout with one line towards the end ‘’i’ll have to phone Rupert now, what a tedious bloody bore’’?Siri e.t.c couldn’t identify." MIKE PARKER Where is that line comes from on the audio? I've not heard it, unless I missed it ?? From stuartb@... Fri Oct 25 16:20:04 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 25 Oct 2019 14:20:04 +0000 Subject: More BFBS files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to all involved. I've just finished wikifying another Eddie show, 07 June 1981 (BFBS) https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/07_June_1981_(BFBS). I've also completed 7 of Jon Gemmell's tapes which do far are mixtapes from the first half of 1985, some of which are additions and sound upgrades to 400 Box shows. They eventually move on to F50 shows from 1985-1989, and by the look of them they should add to some of the session elements of these shows. Linked too from the 1985 page, mixtapes, From stuartb@... Fri Oct 25 16:11:55 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 25 Oct 2019 14:11:55 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> Message-ID: It's not on the audio, we have to identify it from our memory! Which I can't, off hand... From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 25 18:10:31 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> Message-ID: <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> It's such a great track if anyone can identify ithttp://www.mediafire.com/file/sjsuo5w8h8oxqjp/unknown_80%2527s_peel_track.mp3/file%20COPY%20LINK On Friday, 25 October 2019, 15:33:45 BST, stuartb@... [peel] wrote:   It's not on the audio, we have to identify it from our memory! Which I can't, off hand... From johnpeel3904@... Fri Oct 25 22:13:30 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 25 Oct 2019 20:13:30 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> Message-ID: I do remember his track. It was basically a parody of the 1981 Royal Wedding and was released as a 7" single. The 7" single had a cartoon drawing I recall of the royal bride and groom in the car. It was a one off single. No other singles or albums was released by that artist. The lyrics I think I remembered were not in the song title. I believe I heard it on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes that he uploaded on the Peel wiki site. I believe it may have been released in 1981 or 1982. Unfortunately I can't remember the song title or artist. I do know it was on YouTube, because I remembered seeing it after hearing the song on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes around 6 years ago I think. From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 25 23:18:44 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> Message-ID: <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> Interesting recollections, more than i can remember. Annoying thing is it's probably up on Discogs staring us in the face, hope it turns up sometime.On Friday, 25 October 2019, 21:47:03 BST, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote:   I do remember his track. It was basically a parody of the 1981 Royal Wedding and was released as a 7" single. The 7" single had a cartoon drawing I recall of the royal bride and groom in the car. It was a one off single. No other singles or albums was released by that artist. The lyrics I think I remembered were not in the song title. I believe I heard it on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes that he uploaded on the Peel wiki site. I believe it may have been released in 1981 or 1982. Unfortunately I can't remember the song title or artist. I do know it was on YouTube, because I remembered seeing it after hearing the song on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes around 6 years ago I think.  From markc63@... Sat Oct 26 12:51:45 2019 From: markc63@... (markc63@...) Date: 26 Oct 2019 03:51:45 -0700 Subject: New(ish) mixtapes... Message-ID: I've added a few more Peel mixtapes to the moo over the last few months but had sort of stopped announcing them on here (self promotion was never one of my strengths... and I always tend to think that mixtapes are peculiar to the compiler. I like the quote from James Nice who runs the reissue label, LTM, "there's probably only me who likes all of it"). Anyway, here are the details: The Peel Tapes Vol.15 features classics from 1991 inc Goodnight Said Florence, The Philistines Jr and 35 Summers https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Sessions_Vol.15 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Sessions_Vol.15 The Peel Tapes Vol.16 time travel courtesy of a C90 inc. Nautical William, Bang Bang Machine and some Peel content https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Tapes_Vol.16 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Tapes_Vol.16 The Peel Sessions Vol.18 "Kimble" by The Fall, Barbel, Stereolab, The Cranberries, Even As We Speak etc https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Sessions_Vol.18 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Sessions_Vol.18 The Peel Tapes Vol.17 All of your favourites plus Smudge, Wckr Spgt (early pioneers of vowel removal), Hail, Elmer-Hassel and Wing Tip Sloat https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Tapes_Vol.17 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Tapes_Vol.17 Thanks as ever to the people who tidy up my wiki entries. Enjoy, or not as the case may be. Mark C From numbernine@... Sat Oct 26 13:08:46 2019 From: numbernine@... (Patrick Kimura-Macke) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:08:46 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> Message-ID: <91D09029-1BE9-4AC1-8A24-C936448D1F86@...> John Leonhard's dad here. Yes it was definitely on one of my tapes but which one I can't say at the moment. The title might have had the word "tweed" in the title...... On 25 Oct 2019, at 21:13, johnpeel3904@....uk [peel] wrote: I do remember his track. It was basically a parody of the 1981 Royal Wedding and was released as a 7" single. The 7" single had a cartoon drawing I recall of the royal bride and groom in the car. It was a one off single. No other singles or albums was released by that artist. The lyrics I think I remembered were not in the song title. I believe I heard it on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes that he uploaded on the Peel wiki site. I believe it may have been released in 1981 or 1982. Unfortunately I can't remember the song title or artist. I do know it was on YouTube, because I remembered seeing it after hearing the song on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes around 6 years ago I think. From numbernine@... Sat Oct 26 13:17:14 2019 From: numbernine@... (Patrick Kimura-Macke) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:17:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> Message-ID: <5F983E0E-4A3F-4AF8-A343-D3D3F9C0FF27@...> John Leonhard's dad again. I have located it. December 8th 1983 John Peel. The Phones: Classic Tweeds. (7") SRT On 25 Oct 2019, at 22:18, Mike Parker parkermike81@... [peel] wrote: Interesting recollections, more than i can remember. Annoying thing is it's probably up on Discogs staring us in the face, hope it turns up sometime. On Friday, 25 October 2019, 21:47:03 BST, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote: I do remember his track. It was basically a parody of the 1981 Royal Wedding and was released as a 7" single. The 7" single had a cartoon drawing I recall of the royal bride and groom in the car. It was a one off single. No other singles or albums was released by that artist. The lyrics I think I remembered were not in the song title. I believe I heard it on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes that he uploaded on the Peel wiki site. I believe it may have been released in 1981 or 1982. Unfortunately I can't remember the song title or artist. I do know it was on YouTube, because I remembered seeing it after hearing the song on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes around 6 years ago I think. From ash@... Sat Oct 26 13:05:51 2019 From: ash@... (ash@...) Date: 26 Oct 2019 04:05:51 -0700 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> Message-ID: A couple of options here - I recall the fuss about the Crass one at the time http://www.45cat.com/45_list_view_record.php?pagestart=2&ls=latest&li=269 From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 26 13:55:14 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <91D09029-1BE9-4AC1-8A24-C936448D1F86@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> <91D09029-1BE9-4AC1-8A24-C936448D1F86@...> Message-ID: <2018830858.915102.1572090914182@...> Yes you've cracked it Patrick with the help of John, i found it on your Tape after searching Tweed and your name https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/08_December_1983The Phones (7) - It's Late At NightMany thanks. | | | | | | | | | | | The Phones (7) - It's Late At Night Label: SRT - SRT 83 CUS 1882 • Format: Vinyl 7 | | | On Saturday, 26 October 2019, 12:36:13 BST, Patrick Kimura-Macke numbernine@... [peel] wrote:   John Leonhard's dad here. Yes it was definitely on one of my tapes but which one I can't say at the moment. The title might have had the word "tweed" in the title...... On 25 Oct 2019, at 21:13, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote:   I do remember his track. It was basically a parody of the 1981 Royal Wedding and was released as a 7" single. The 7" single had a cartoon drawing I recall of the royal bride and groom in the car. It was a one off single. No other singles or albums was released by that artist. The lyrics I think I remembered were not in the song title. I believe I heard it on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes that he uploaded on the Peel wiki site. I believe it may have been released in 1981 or 1982. Unfortunately I can't remember the song title or artist. I do know it was on YouTube, because I remembered seeing it after hearing the song on one of John Leonhard's Dad's tapes around 6 years ago I think.  From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 26 14:25:56 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> Message-ID: <2079249412.926295.1572092756160@...> Thanks Ash On Saturday, 26 October 2019, 13:07:09 BST, ash@helpingchange.co.uk [peel] wrote:   A couple of options here - I recall the fuss about the Crass one at the time http://www.45cat.com/45_list_view_record.php?pagestart=2&ls=latest&li=269 From robfleay@... Sat Oct 26 15:59:26 2019 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 14:59:26 +0100 Subject: [peel] New(ish) mixtapes... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Mark - I enjoy the mixtapes , always fascinating to hear other people's choices of what they saved. I suspect there are far more Peel mixtapes out there than actual full show tapes For example - Ally on Twitter posted an 80s Peel mixtape last night on Mixcloud, and it's been wikifid already (not by me I hasten to add! Although I did just add in the uncredited Velvets intro) https://www.mixcloud.com/playitasitlays/play-it-as-it-lays-vol35-a-john-peel-thing/ https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/Play_It_As_It_Lays_Volume_35_-_A_John_Peel_Thing On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 11:51, markc63@btinternet.com [peel] < peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > I've added a few more Peel mixtapes to the moo over the last few months > but had sort of stopped announcing them on here (self promotion was never > one of my strengths... and I always tend to think that mixtapes are > peculiar to the compiler. I like the quote from James Nice who runs the > reissue label, LTM, "there's probably only me who likes all of it"). > > > Anyway, here are the details: > > > The Peel Tapes Vol.15 > > features classics from 1991 inc Goodnight Said Florence, The Philistines > Jr and 35 Summers > > https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Sessions_Vol.15 > > > The Peel Tapes Vol.16 > > time travel courtesy of a C90 inc. Nautical William, Bang Bang Machine and > some Peel content > > https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Tapes_Vol.16 > > > The Peel Sessions Vol.18 > > "Kimble" by The Fall, Barbel, Stereolab, The Cranberries, Even As We Speak > etc > > https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Sessions_Vol.18 > > > The Peel Tapes Vol.17 > > All of your favourites plus Smudge, Wckr Spgt (early pioneers of vowel > removal), Hail, Elmer-Hassel and Wing Tip Sloat > > https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/The_Peel_Tapes_Vol.17 > > > Thanks as ever to the people who tidy up my wiki entries. > > > Enjoy, or not as the case may be. > > > Mark C > > > > > From johnpeel3904@... Tue Oct 29 00:05:12 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 28 Oct 2019 23:05:12 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not Message-ID: I've sent this at 11pm on 28th October 2019. This maybe the last new post on the Peel Yahoo group, if I'm going according to Yahoo's message that says you can't add new posts after that date. From timgiebel@... Tue Oct 29 21:11:00 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 20:11:00 +0000 Subject: [peel] Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not Message-ID: I’ve received it ok :) > On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:30, johnpeel3904@yahoo.co.uk [peel] wrote: > From johnpeel3904@... Mon Oct 28 16:12:18 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 28 Oct 2019 08:12:18 -0700 Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: <2079249412.926295.1572092756160@...> References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> <2079249412.926295.1572092756160@...> Message-ID: Well done everybody. What a fool I am. I didn't realise I uploaded The Phones' Classic Tweeds on my YouTube channel in 2013. Here is the proof in the pudding below !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sscjsoGAb6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sscjsoGAb6c From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 00:07:32 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:07:32 +0000 Subject: Test post from email client Message-ID: <1964114a-08c5-cded-4e64-09659670249d@...> Test post from email client -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 00:13:02 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:13:02 +0000 Subject: Last post Message-ID: <811be8a4-1939-e420-6151-622b61bc2526@...> I received it on the webpage but not in my email client. I also received JP3904's message about the Phones on the webpage, that was sent yesterday but arrival time today, and not received on the email client. This site claims that email functionality is not going away, but that you can use any email client (suggesting the webpage can't send) but it seems that as far as receiving goes, it is the other way round. I will send this twice, once via webpost, once via email This is the email version. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 00:16:15 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:16:15 +0000 Subject: Posting experiment results Message-ID: <0ba95668-dc71-e3d6-075d-95a921228891@...> So, as of this moment, you can only send via email, and only receive on the website. Very Yahoo! -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuartb@... Tue Oct 29 20:46:02 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 29 Oct 2019 12:46:02 -0700 Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well I seemed too be able to reply to this topic though it hasn't turned up yet. If O create a new topic it says I can't send with an empty message field, even though it's nit empty. And all the while in typical yahoo fashion, I cant se what Im typi,g thanks ti a sillt attention notification abot the changes that cant beacknowledged. So bad spelling I cant fix From johnpeel3904@... Tue Oct 29 21:38:05 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 29 Oct 2019 20:38:05 +0000 Subject: [peel] Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for letting me know Tim. It looks like the replying seems to work. I haven’t tried adding a new topic today, but I’ll give it ago to see if it works, because apparently from today it shouldn’t work according to Yahoo. From timgiebel@... Wed Oct 30 11:09:17 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:09:17 +0000 Subject: [peel] Last post Message-ID: I’m still receiving all messages via email, but it seems they are coming through a day late > On 30 Oct 2019, at 09:53, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote: > From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 07:20:23 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 29 Oct 2019 23:20:23 -0700 Subject: Yahoo Groups is a Norwegian Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wonder if it would be possible for you to upload the conversations/posts as a database (db3) to the Mooo, to see if it can be opened by my trial copy of PG Offline? It does look like all the posts will be deleted by Yahoo in December Stuart From chrisjbrady@... Wed Oct 30 13:23:02 2019 From: chrisjbrady@... (Chris J Brady) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Last post In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1445438644.2062669.1572438182306@...> What happened about a [peel.io] group? CJB On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, 12:16:40 GMT, Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@... [peel] wrote:   I’m still receiving all messages via email, but it seems they are coming through a day late > On 30 Oct 2019, at 09:53, Stuart Brooks stuartb@... [peel] wrote: > grp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:020activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-sioth;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400 div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}20 From timgiebel@... Wed Oct 30 16:52:35 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:52:35 +0000 Subject: [peel] Test post from email client In-Reply-To: <1964114a-08c5-cded-4e64-09659670249d@...> References: <1964114a-08c5-cded-4e64-09659670249d@...> Message-ID: Received fine to my Hotmail. And I am replying via email. Thanks, Tim On 30 Oct 2019, at 15:39, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote:  Test post from email client -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 00:12:31 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 29 Oct 2019 23:12:31 +0000 Subject: [peel] Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I received it on the webpage but not in my email client. I also received JP3904's message about the Phones on the webpage, that was sent yesterday but arrival time today, and not received on the email client. This site claims that email functionality is not going away, but that you can use any email client (suggesting the webpage can't send) but it seems that as far as receiving goes, it is the other way round. I will send this twice, once via webpost, once via email This is the webpost version. From timgiebel@... Wed Oct 30 20:25:04 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 19:25:04 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not Message-ID: Hahaha. I think we are going to have to have a new group of some sort, it seems it’s getting increasingly dodgy here, they could just shut it down completely at any time couldn’t they? I mean, it’s already meant to be gone, but for whatever reason is still kind of working, but it takes quite a while for posts to actually appear. There’s always Facebook, but not sure what the consensus on that is? > On 30 Oct 2019, at 19:01, stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote: > From parkermike81@... Wed Oct 30 20:46:54 2019 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 19:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: Bop On In-Reply-To: References: <294030182.7441119.1571672797388.ref@...> <294030182.7441119.1571672797388@...> <251876113.154333.1571992482194@...> <184035124.553979.1572019831863@...> <685091714.713691.1572038324581@...> <2079249412.926295.1572092756160@...> Message-ID: <1093758317.4143872.1572464814630@...> One lucky person got it on Discogs for £2 back in 2016, the hunt is on now for a download of the complete single? Intrigued to find out now what the other 2 tracks sound like. On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, 06:54:52 GMT, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote:   Well done everybody. What a fool I am. I didn't realise I uploaded The Phones' Classic Tweeds on my YouTube channel in 2013. Here is the proof in the pudding below !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sscjsoGAb6c From M.Luetchford@... Wed Oct 30 22:14:55 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (m.luetchford) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:14:55 +0000 Subject: [peel] Test post from email client Message-ID: and i am still getting these ... 15.52 today.Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message --------From: "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@hotmail.co.uk [peel]" Date: 30/10/2019 15:52 (GMT+00:00) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Test post from email client   Received fine to my Hotmail. And I am replying via email. Thanks, Tim On 30 Oct 2019, at 15:39, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote:    Test post from email client -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 22:39:36 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:39:36 +0000 Subject: [peel] Test post from email client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E8FA55B-E572-4817-9BA7-8CBD1089BF89@...> I sent it yesterday.... On 30 October 2019 21:14:55 GMT+00:00, "'m.luetchford' M.Luetchford@... [peel]" wrote: > > >and i am still getting these ... 15.52 today.Sent from my Samsung >device > >-------- Original message --------From: "Tim Giebel-Inanloo >timgiebel@... [peel]" Date: 30/10/2019 >15:52 (GMT+00:00) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Test >post from email client >  > > > > > > > > > > > > >Received fine to my Hotmail. And I am replying via email. >Thanks, Tim > >On 30 Oct 2019, at 15:39, Stuart Brooks stuartb@... >[peel] wrote: > > > > >   > >Test post from email client > >-- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 22:38:22 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:38:22 +0000 Subject: [peel] Test post from email client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I sent it yesterday.... On 30 October 2019 21:14:55 GMT+00:00, "'m.luetchford' M.Luetchford@... [peel]" wrote: > > >and i am still getting these ... 15.52 today.Sent from my Samsung >device > >-------- Original message --------From: "Tim Giebel-Inanloo >timgiebel@... [peel]" Date: 30/10/2019 >15:52 (GMT+00:00) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Test >post from email client >  > > > > > > > > > > > > >Received fine to my Hotmail. And I am replying via email. >Thanks, Tim > >On 30 Oct 2019, at 15:39, Stuart Brooks stuartb@... >[peel] wrote: > > > > >   > >Test post from email client > >-- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Wed Oct 30 21:12:50 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 30 Oct 2019 20:12:50 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It seems that all messages, conversations and topics will indeed be deleted in December. The creator of PGOffline that IAP has used to download messages, is apparently working on a way to then parse the results of these in a way that is easier to export to a replacement. Groups.io transfers are taking quite a while due to everyone wanting to transfer from Yahoo at the same time..... From br@... Thu Oct 31 13:03:22 2019 From: br@... (br@...) Date: 31 Oct 2019 12:03:22 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've set up a mailman list with the Yahoo archives, I don't know if this is a good solution as replacement for the mailing list, but at least we can use this to keep the archives on-line. You can find it here: https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/peel-group@list.peelwiki.com/ https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/peel-group@list.peelwiki.com/ I've imported about half of the archive, but I can add the rest as well. As a replacement for the mailing list I think it would be best to create a Peel group at groups.io, without transferring any content or members. This would probably be more reliable and faster than using the mailman list that I set up. I've also uploaded the Yahoo archives in "mbox" format that I downloaded from Yahoo, it's on the Mooo server in the Misc folder. Branko From br@... Thu Oct 31 16:32:37 2019 From: br@... (br@...) Date: 31 Oct 2019 15:32:37 +0000 Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think the link was truncated by yahoo because it strips everything after the @ sign, so you should use the following link and replace " at " with "@": https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/peel-group at list.peelwiki.com/ https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/peel-group@list.peelwiki.com/ Or go to https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/ https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/ and then "Peel-group" Branko From br@... Thu Oct 31 16:56:00 2019 From: br@... (br@...) Date: 31 Oct 2019 08:56:00 -0700 Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My original message seems to be delayed in the email, so here it is again with a working link (no @ sign), I hope this one doesn't get delayed too... I've set up a mailman list with the Yahoo archives, I don't know if this is a good solution as replacement for the mailing list, but at least we can use this to keep the archives on-line. You can find it here: https://list.peelwiki.com/peel-group https://list.peelwiki.com/peel-group I've imported about half of the archive, but I can add the rest as well. As a replacement for the mailing list I think it would be best to create a Peel group at groups.io, without transferring any content or members. This would probably be more reliable and faster than using the mailman list that I set up. I've also uploaded the Yahoo archives in "mbox" format that I downloaded from Yahoo, it's on the Mooo server in the Misc folder. Branko From chrisjbrady@... Thu Oct 31 19:29:13 2019 From: chrisjbrady@... (Chris J Brady) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <703261726.2558031.1572546553094@...> Many Yahoo Groups have transferred to IO Groups. This has been with all content messages, imges and files etc. The IO folk do the work. However IO have just raised thier fees!!. But the big group that I do know was successfull was the very active OTRR (Old Time Radio Researchers) group. Meanwhile I will point out again that the mst valuable part of a Yahoo Group is the membership, that is the email addresses of members. They should be downoade and saved. BTW there is also advice from Yahoo that in order to retain the email functionality of a Yahoo Group every member needs to log in and change the profile settings to receive emails - not special messages etc., but emails from other members. After Dec 14. all content will be removed, files, database, images, archive of previous messages, etc. CJB. On Thursday, 31 October 2019, 16:59:21 GMT, br@... [peel] wrote:   I've set up a mailman list with the Yahoo archives, I don't know if this is a good solution as replacement for the mailing list, but at least we can use this to keep the archives on-line. You can find it here: https://list.peelwiki.com/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/peel-group@.../ I've imported about half of the archive, but I can add the rest as well. As a replacement for the mailing list I think it would be best to create a Peel group at groups.io, without transferring any content or members. This would probably be more reliable and faster than using the mailman list that I set up. I've also uploaded the Yahoo archives in "mbox" format that I downloaded from Yahoo, it's on the Mooo server in the Misc folder. Branko 065320hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#065320activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;fonar:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width div div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62065320 From mmar62@... Thu Oct 31 22:35:28 2019 From: mmar62@... (Mario Marotti) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 21:35:28 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Yahoo Says You Can't Add New Topics after 28th October 2019. I'm checking whether it's true or not In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hello! Many of the groups which I am member change to "groups.io" and continue with the same dynamics than here. Take into account that possibity. Best wishes, Mario