From johnpeel3904@... Tue Jan 1 17:30:02 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 01 Jan 2019 16:30:02 +0000 Subject: Dave Cavanagh has passed away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the article. Interestingly they don’t mention what he died of. Was it suicide, did he have cancer, or was it a heart attack. It seems from the article that he was a very private person and didn’t seem to be married or having children. It’s very sad to die of a young age, he was in his 50’s. From johnpeel3904@... Tue Jan 1 22:46:42 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 01 Jan 2019 21:46:42 +0000 Subject: Dave Cavanagh has passed away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He seems to have been a private person, hence why there is little info about him, relating to whether he had a wife/girlfriend or had children. Even his death is a mystery - was it heart attack, cancer, or suicide. We may never know !! From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jan 10 14:53:28 2019 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512@...) Date: 10 Jan 2019 05:53:28 -0800 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year Message-ID: BFBS show from Carsten, new to the catalogue. 03 July 1997 (BFBS) https://peel.wikia.com/wiki/03_July_1997_(BFBS) Best wishes Steve (TK) From johnpeel3904@... Fri Jan 11 02:59:29 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 10 Jan 2019 17:59:29 -0800 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this. I'm sure there will be plenty of Carsten's shows in the future. From M.Luetchford@... Fri Jan 11 13:48:15 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1629219802.26538258.1547210895160@...> Thanks Interestingly I never got the Pastels either - knew many pals whose judgement I trusted liked them but however many times I listened I couldn't get the genius. Felt the same about Felt. Any suggestions about which tracks I should listen to to test if my feelings are still the same. Any others with similar blind spots? Mark On Thursday, 10 January 2019, 14:15:03 GMT, so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] wrote:   BFBS show from Carsten, new to the catalogue. 03 July 1997 (BFBS) Best wishes Steve (TK) From rockerq@... Fri Jan 11 14:27:22 2019 From: rockerq@... (Rocker Rosehip) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year References: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785.ref@...> Message-ID: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785@...> I loved the Pastels - one of the big inspirations for the whole C86 scene - partly for their punk attitude - you didn't have to be good at playing an instrument, if you had something to say you just put it in a song - and they clearly didn't give a fuck whether people liked them or not. Plus they wrote a series of classic 3 chord popsongs: Something's HappeningI Wonder WhyI'm Alright with youA Million TearsBaby HoneyTruck Train Tractor Cheers! Rocker -----Original Message----- From: MARK LUETCHFORD M.Luetchford@btopenworld.com [peel] To: so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:49 Subject: Re: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year   Thanks Interestingly I never got the Pastels either - knew many pals whose judgement I trusted liked them but however many times I listened I couldn't get the genius. Felt the same about Felt. Any suggestions about which tracks I should listen to to test if my feelings are still the same. Any others with similar blind spots? Mark On Thursday, 10 January 2019, 14:15:03 GMT, so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] wrote:   BFBS show from Carsten, nehd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10pv2326055905actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv26055905attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;p55905last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yyiv2326055905photos div div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overf:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowra From johnpeel3904@... Fri Jan 11 20:52:44 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 11 Jan 2019 19:52:44 +0000 Subject: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785@...> References: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785.ref@...> <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785@...> Message-ID: I like the Pastels Heavens Above track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxtsA56hOHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxtsA56hOHA Sounds very similar to the Vaselines, another Scottish group. I think certain people used to categorise the Pastels and the Vaselines as Twee Pop. . From iceage01@... Sat Jan 12 00:17:55 2019 From: iceage01@... (CK) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 07:17:55 +0800 Subject: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785@...> References: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785.ref@...> <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785@...> Message-ID: <661fa33e-0b06-0683-2e4d-4f9395f0ea43@...> Couldn't agree with Rocker more. They are pretty much an essential C86 band. Well, I can't promise they are always that good. But when they are, they are brilliant. Examples : Thru Your Heart, If I Could Tell You. CK Rocker Rosehip rockerq@... [peel] 於 11/1/2019 21:27 寫道: > > I loved the Pastels - one of the big inspirations for the whole C86 > scene - partly for their punk attitude - you didn't have to be good at > playing an instrument, if you had something to say you just put it in > a song - and they clearly didn't give a fuck whether people liked them > or not. Plus they wrote a series of classic 3 chord popsongs: > > Something's Happening > I Wonder Why > I'm Alright with you > A Million Tears > Baby Honey > Truck Train Tractor > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MARK LUETCHFORD M.Luetchford@... [peel] > > To: so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] > Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:49 > Subject: Re: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year > > Thanks > > Interestingly I never got the Pastels either - knew many pals whose > judgement I trusted liked them but however many times I listened I > couldn't get the genius. Felt the same about Felt. Any suggestions > about which tracks I should listen to to test if my feelings are still > the same. > > Any others with similar blind spots? > > Mark > > On Thursday, 10 January 2019, 14:15:03 GMT, > so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] wrote: > > > BFBS show from Carsten, new to the catalogue. > 03 July 1997 (BFBS) > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > --- Avast 防毒软件已对此电子邮件执行病毒检查。 https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuartb@... Sat Jan 12 01:44:29 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:44:29 +0000 Subject: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <661fa33e-0b06-0683-2e4d-4f9395f0ea43@...> References: <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785.ref@...> <1963249161.16925984.1547213242785@...> <661fa33e-0b06-0683-2e4d-4f9395f0ea43@...> Message-ID: <7E854761-D2CF-4C48-8687-EB4CB9A6D45E@...> I remember a very recalcitrant Stephen Pastel being interviewed by Billy Sloan on Radio Clyde in the 1980s and Billy being pretty angry with it all On 11 January 2019 23:17:55 GMT+00:00, "CK iceage01@... [peel]" wrote: >Couldn't agree with Rocker more. They are pretty much an essential C86 >band. Well, I can't promise they are always that good. But when they >are, they are brilliant. Examples : Thru Your Heart, If I Could Tell >You. > > >CK > >Rocker Rosehip rockerq@... [peel] 於 11/1/2019 21:27 寫道: >> >> I loved the Pastels - one of the big inspirations for the whole C86 >> scene - partly for their punk attitude - you didn't have to be good >at >> playing an instrument, if you had something to say you just put it in > >> a song - and they clearly didn't give a fuck whether people liked >them >> or not. Plus they wrote a series of classic 3 chord popsongs: >> >> Something's Happening >> I Wonder Why >> I'm Alright with you >> A Million Tears >> Baby Honey >> Truck Train Tractor >> >> Cheers! >> >> Rocker >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MARK LUETCHFORD M.Luetchford@... [peel] >> >> To: so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] >> Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:49 >> Subject: Re: [peel] (Belated) Happy New Year >> >> Thanks >> >> Interestingly I never got the Pastels either - knew many pals whose >> judgement I trusted liked them but however many times I listened I >> couldn't get the genius. Felt the same about Felt. Any suggestions >> about which tracks I should listen to to test if my feelings are >still >> the same. >> >> Any others with similar blind spots? >> >> Mark >> >> On Thursday, 10 January 2019, 14:15:03 GMT, >> so_it_goes_2512@... [peel] wrote: >> >> >> BFBS show from Carsten, new to the catalogue. >> 03 July 1997 (BFBS) >> Best wishes >> Steve (TK) >> > > >--- >Avast 防毒软件已对此电子邮件执行病毒检查。 >https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stuart@... Sat Jan 12 18:50:28 2019 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 17:50:28 +0000 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <1547265740.144.19658.m7@yahoogroups.com> References: <1547265740.144.19658.m7@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <192C3E99-E771-4A8A-94C7-5BB0A5AB1EC7@...> Just to be controversial, I probably prefer the later ’sophisticated’ Pastels to their earlier jangly work (which is still good but quite different). Slow Summits, from around 5 years ago, is great - they went a bit almost shoegazey and did some film soundtrack work and worked with the likes of Cornelius and Tortoise. S From gbsh@... Sun Jan 13 18:28:15 2019 From: gbsh@... (Gary .) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:28:15 +0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 4914 In-Reply-To: <1544500060.84.27214.m7@yahoogroups.com> References: <1544500060.84.27214.m7@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <3917CCE9-DE70-492C-8245-C9D4BEBA74EB@...> I have recording from 2004 though to 2007. Could upload them to the moo if you’re interested. > 1Radio Lancashire - On The Wire > Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:39 am (PST) . Posted by:jnanagarbha > IKINJPB... sorry to go off topic, but I’m wondering if any of the good folk here have any recordings of Radio Lancashire’s ‘On The Wire’ show - especially stuff from before the mid 1990s > > Bill - were you close enough for them to reach you? > > Thanks in anticipation > Ash From sdmaclean@... Sun Jan 13 19:54:09 2019 From: sdmaclean@... (STUART MACLEAN) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 10:54:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: amusing observation Message-ID: <1662337370.751766.1547405649429@...> Apologies that this isn't strictly Peel-related (but if Pastels thread is ok...), but I can imagine from ATFF results we'll have some Joy Division fans on here... was trawling through old TOTP on you tube, mostly looking at Peel-anchored shows (love 1 April 82 with his comment about Bill Sharpe's shirt), and stumbled on Kissing the Pink doing 'The Last Film'. Well if the singer isn't a ringer for Ian Curtis on Something Else. Weird that he gets 'the dance' just so but even more weird is the shirt and trousers, exactly as per Curtis. As if he was predicting the Control film 25 years into the future! I really must get out more.... Stu From johnpeel3904@... Sun Jan 13 23:17:28 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 13 Jan 2019 22:17:28 +0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 4914 In-Reply-To: <3917CCE9-DE70-492C-8245-C9D4BEBA74EB@...> References: <1544500060.84.27214.m7@yahoogroups.com> <3917CCE9-DE70-492C-8245-C9D4BEBA74EB@...> Message-ID: What do they consist of because all of Peel's shows from 2004 have already been uploaded on the mooo site. From johnpeel3904@... Sun Jan 13 23:20:04 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 13 Jan 2019 22:20:04 +0000 Subject: amusing observation In-Reply-To: <1662337370.751766.1547405649429@...> References: <1662337370.751766.1547405649429@...> Message-ID: KISSING THE PINK - The Last Film The video of their TOTP performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0u9V-Bclmg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0u9V-Bclmg From stuartb@... Mon Jan 14 00:04:09 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 23:04:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 4914 In-Reply-To: References: <1544500060.84.27214.m7@yahoogroups.com> <3917CCE9-DE70-492C-8245-C9D4BEBA74EB@...> Message-ID: These are tapes of On The Wire from BBC Lancashire On 13 January 2019 22:17:28 GMT+00:00, "johnpeel3904@... [peel]" wrote: >What do they consist of because all of Peel's shows from 2004 have >already been uploaded on the mooo site. From johnpeel3904@... Mon Jan 14 03:13:19 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 14 Jan 2019 02:13:19 +0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 4914 In-Reply-To: References: <1544500060.84.27214.m7@yahoogroups.com> <3917CCE9-DE70-492C-8245-C9D4BEBA74EB@...> Message-ID: I’d be interested to hear them From chrisjbrady@... Mon Jan 14 15:47:45 2019 From: chrisjbrady@... (Chris J Brady) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: John Peel on MixCloud References: <1631636588.18258876.1547477265041.ref@...> Message-ID: <1631636588.18258876.1547477265041@...> Loads of uploads for the downloading!!! Here's one of the latest ... https://www.mixcloud.com/andy-walmsley2/john-peel-on-the-launch-of-radio-1/ CJB From johnpeel3904@... Mon Jan 14 19:23:38 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 14 Jan 2019 18:23:38 +0000 Subject: John Peel on MixCloud In-Reply-To: <1631636588.18258876.1547477265041@...> References: <1631636588.18258876.1547477265041.ref@...> <1631636588.18258876.1547477265041@...> Message-ID: It's also on the Peel wiki page of John Peel Remembers 1967 http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/John_Peel_Remembers_1967 From stuartb@... Mon Jan 14 20:29:33 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:29:33 +0000 Subject: Go West Message-ID: <26DB760A-2C41-4075-A117-5DB0445AE4BC@...> Anyone who pledged David Quantick's Peeltastic new novel on Unbound now have it winging its way towards them! From M.Luetchford@... Mon Jan 14 21:26:33 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (Mr M D Luetchford) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:26:33 +0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 4914 Message-ID: I think any addition to the canon would be really welcome - probably quite rare so to capture them on the wiki for posterity would be great. Do they have the links between discs intact? I do wonder how he found the time to do all these shows. Must have worked around the clock... Mark On 14 January 2019, at 02:13, "johnpeel3904@yahoo.co.uk [peel]" wrote:   I’d be interested to hear them From M.Luetchford@... Mon Jan 14 21:58:09 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (Mr M D Luetchford) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:58:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year Message-ID: Lots of suggestions there to have another go at self education to get up for a lot with the Pastels. No one rose to my challenge of sharing Peel's disdain for bands others liked to listen to - a comment from him about the pastels doing the worse session ever for his show was root of my comment. Did I read somewhere he never played much Springsteen? another opinion I share. how about vice versa? Eg Not "getting" bands he championed from his roof top. Is there anyone on here who doesn't like listening to The Fall. Or if that was the case would they be here? Obviously all opinions are as valid as others when it comes to liking stuff but good to get the email traffic troubling in 2019. Mark On 12 January 2019, at 17:53, "Stuart Mchugh stuart@vacant.org.uk [peel]" wrote:   Just to be controversial, I probably prefer the later ’sophisticated’ Pastels to their earlier jangly work (which is still good but quite different). Slow Summits, from around 5 years ago, is great - they went a bit almost shoegazey and did some film soundtrack work and worked with the likes of Cornelius and Tortoise. S From rockerq@... Mon Jan 14 22:51:59 2019 From: rockerq@... (Rocker Rosehip) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year References: <638441140.81515.1547502719168.ref@...> Message-ID: <638441140.81515.1547502719168@...> Always loved The Fall right from hearing him play 'Bingo Master', but I never understood his passion for Gene, or The Farm. Maybe they were just nice people but I never 'got' any of their songs, especially Gene, who in my estimation were just a second rate copy of The Smiths from three years earlier. Rocker -----Original Message----- From: Mr M D Luetchford M.Luetchford@... [peel] To: yahoogroups Sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:59 Subject: Re: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year   Lots of suggestions there to have another go at self education to get up for a lot with the Pastels. No one rose to my challenge of sharing Peel's disdain for bands others liked to listen to - a comment from him about the pastels doing the worse session ever for his show was root of my comment. Did I read somewhere he never played much Springsteen?  another opinion I share.how about vice versa? Eg Not "getting" bands he championed from his roof top. Is there anyone on here who doesn't like listening to The Fall. Or if that was the case would they be here?Obviously all opinions are as valid as others when it comes to liking stuff but good to get the email traffic troubling in 2019.Mark On 12 January 2019, at 17:53, "Stuart Mchugh stuart@... [peel]" wrote:   Just to be controversial, I probably prefer the later ’sophisticated’ Pastels to their earlier jangly work (which is still good but quite different). Slow Summits, from around 5 years ago, is great - they went a bit almost shoegazey and did some film soundtrack work and worked with the likes of Cornelius and Tortoise. round-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:1isplay:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} iv label { color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;w1435621377 From stuartb@... Mon Jan 14 23:28:24 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 14 Jan 2019 22:28:24 +0000 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are three interesting categories - Sharing disdain with Peel, (which I didn't quite get that what you were looking for initially), hating his likes, and liking his hates! In the first category, well there are lots of easy ones there, but I suppose the most interesting are the ones that the mainstream might lump in with the sorts of artists that Peel would like and play, but didn't. I can't readily think of the surprising dislikes that I would think "me too". I couldn't for example bring myself to hate Patti Smith and Tom Waits for example, and there is a lot of stuff that he did play in the 1970s that I would have been less surprised at him hating. I didn't really get Gene either - not that I greatly disliked them but thought they were more a Lamacq/Wiley sort of band. There was the odd Farm track that I liked but wasn't a great fan, but bands like that I thought did belong to the category of "bands that Peel plays that I see as a bit mainstream but he must see something in them" which to me just adds to the overall experience. I can see the similarities with late Wah/Wylie and Farm which is maybe where he was coming from. My blind spots also include Culture, I much preferred Steel Pulse, Perry, Tubby and the Blood & Fire compilations/reissues. And while greatly liking a lot of the Happy Hardcore stuff, really disliked the Cuban Boys biggest hits! Finally, my tastes occasionally extended beyond what Peel would play, some of the more Tongy dance stuff for example, amd I don't remember him being bothered about Fluffy. But mostly these are the exceptions, and the Venn diagram of me and JP shows a big overlap! From johnpeel3904@... Tue Jan 15 00:45:17 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 14 Jan 2019 23:45:17 +0000 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GENRES OF MUSIC THAT PEEL PLAYED: PUNK (Probably the genre that alot of my musicial tastes are based on. I generally preferred the hardcore punk stuff from the 80's than the Sex Pistols or Clash type of punk) REGGAE (I liked the roots reggae, but I wasn't keen on the dancehall stuff from the 90's and beyond) DRUM AND BASS: (Some of it was OK, but it didn't want to make me buy them) HAPPY HARDCORE: (I have to confess I did like alot of them. I still listen to them from that era when Peel played them) WORLD MUSIC (I liked some of them, especially the Bhangra stuff from the 80's and some of the Asian and African artists. Wasn't that keen on the soukous stuff, but I did like some of the Zimbabwean and Mali material. Even some of the South American music was really good) BLUES (Not particular keen on it, but there were one or two that I may liked) JAZZ (Very rare to have one that I liked. None of my musical tastes features any resemblance of jazz) HIP HOP (Alot of his 80's stuff I liked. Of course he never played much hip hop from the 90's and beyond. I agree with Peel that hip hop sucked from the 90's and beyond) COUNTRY (He opened up real country music for me, which otherwise was full of Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers on TV and radio) ELECTRONIC (Probably the second genre of music that I really like) FOLK (I have to confess I did like some of it, although I wasn't keen on the Irish ones like the Dubliners) PROG ROCK (Wasn't much keen on them. They were predictable and their music was too long. Punk did finally came in and dismantled them thank God !!) SOUL MUSIC: (Wasn't keen on the doo-wop stuff, but I did like some of the Northern Soul material.) SOME OF THE ARTISTS THAT PEEL LIKED: THE FALL: (They did make some really clever stuff and I do listen to some of it) HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT: (Not particularly keen on them, although I do like the simplicity of Vatican Broadside) SOME OF THE ARTISTS THAT PEEL DIDN'T LIKE: KATE BUSH (I liked some of her well known hits, but she kinda sucked after the mid 80's) STONE ROSES (their first album was really good, although second was awful, and they thankfully split) From dr_mango2004@... Tue Jan 15 16:59:38 2019 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Digest Number 4914 References: <1154423024.594978.1547567978448.ref@...> Message-ID: <1154423024.594978.1547567978448@...> > I do wonder how he found the time to do all > these shows. Must have worked around the clock... > Mark "On The Wire" aren't Peel shows. Nothing to do with him. Steve Barker is the presenter. DM From dr_mango2004@... Tue Jan 15 17:15:48 2019 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate References: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346.ref@...> Message-ID: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346@...> I think I've touched on this subject before... Gene. I thought they were a blatant Smiths tribute band when they emerged. I gather that Peel wasn't interested at the start, then saw them live and thought there was something worth investigating there. I have one Gene LP, 1999's "Revelations", which I bought a few years after it came out. It's rather good. Bearsuit. I thought Peel was taking the p*ss with this lot. Awful. Amateurish. But I grew to love them too. Funnily enough, around the same time he started playing Ballboy, who I dismissed. What on earth was I thinking? They're great. Mind you, I still don't rate those late 80s / early 90s American bands that he was so keen on. The likes of Trumans Water and Thinking Fellers Union Local 282. Just unlistenable, tuneless noise. When I started listening to the Peel show regularly from 1989 onwards, I used to groan when he played his African records, the deep soul, the old blues records. "Come on Peelie," I'd say to myself, "stop playing this tripe. I want to hear another session track by Ride / House of Love / Lush etc". Now, when I listen back to these shows, it's the songs that I dismissed at the time that sound the freshest and really stand out. The indie rock stuff I loved at the time sounds positively anaemic in comparison. Even the electronic / techno / D&B stuff that I used to dislike sounds pretty good. So there you go. Dr M. From johnpeel3904@... Tue Jan 15 20:28:20 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 15 Jan 2019 19:28:20 +0000 Subject: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate In-Reply-To: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346@...> References: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346.ref@...> <1024085476.620003.1547568948346@...> Message-ID: I liked Peel shows where he mixed indie, folk, world music, hip hop, electronic, etc all in one show. He started doing that in the early 80's, somewhere from the start of 1983 onwards. I wasn't a fan of his shows during the late 70's and early 80's, where it was just only punk and reggae. I thought that was very limiting & boring, even though I like those types of music. I wasn't keen on much of his early 70's stuff, with the prog rock stuff but I did like occasionally his Night Ride shows, which had a mixture of different music from the late 60's. I think in my opinion his best shows were from the mid 80's until early 90's. From stuartb@... Tue Jan 15 21:20:49 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:20:49 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate In-Reply-To: References: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346.ref@...> <1024085476.620003.1547568948346@...> Message-ID: <6D107420-6288-428B-80CB-1EA69FAC8359@...> Looking back now the late 70s and early 80s do seem predictable but at the time as a teenager I found it exciting and dangerous! And listening to the reel to reel project rips that have so far been ripped, I can get myself to enjoy that old bluesy rock stuff by imagining myself as my geography teacher listening on an old radiogram late at night. With my accelerated journey through the late 80s to late 90s ripping the Lee Tapes, I can see why he played most of the stuff that he did. But you almost have to become several personalities to like it all. A long standing blind spot for me has been Capt Beefheart but I am getting there, give it another 20 years and I will be a fan! On 15 January 2019 19:28:20 GMT+00:00, "johnpeel3904@... [peel]" wrote: >I liked Peel shows where he mixed indie, folk, world music, hip hop, >electronic, etc all in one show. He started doing that in the early >80's, somewhere from the start of 1983 onwards. I wasn't a fan of his >shows during the late 70's and early 80's, where it was just only punk >and reggae. I thought that was very limiting & boring, even though I >like those types of music. I wasn't keen on much of his early 70's >stuff, with the prog rock stuff but I did like occasionally his Night >Ride shows, which had a mixture of different music from the late 60's. >I think in my opinion his best shows were from the mid 80's until early >90's. From timgiebel@... Tue Jan 15 22:23:53 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:23:53 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate In-Reply-To: <6D107420-6288-428B-80CB-1EA69FAC8359@...> References: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346.ref@...> <1024085476.620003.1547568948346@...> ,<6D107420-6288-428B-80CB-1EA69FAC8359@...> Message-ID: I was born in 95, so unfortunately didn’t listen to John Peel while I was growing up, I discovered his shows later, through my interest in cassettes and reel to reel etc, and my interest in transferring them to the wiki. However I had already listened to quite a variety of music while growing up. Of course I love listening to John’s delivery, and how much of a real personality he has. Regarding the music, I initially couldn’t get The Fall, but with repeated listening, I have grown to like some of it a lot. I enjoy shows from all decades, but my favourite period is probably from the late seventies to late 80s. I particularly enjoy The early punk, all the reggae, things such as the Cocteau twins, Xmal Deutschland, Siouxsie and the banshees, the Smiths, The Primitives, initially I wasn’t sure about the African tracks, but again have grown to really enjoy these. I still haven’t really managed to enjoy The grind core stuff, Bolt thrower, extreme noise terror etc. Having said that, in the context of the program, I do kind of enjoy the tracks in a way, but wouldn’t buy the LP, put it that way. By the way, I recently got hold of a job lot of reel to reel tapes of Peel shows from mainly early 80s I think, maybe some late 70s to. So these will be up soon. I have also made contact with somebody else who says he has some cassettes of shows from the late seventies/early 80s, but haven’t heard back from him in a while. On 15 Jan 2019, at 20:54, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] > wrote: Looking back now the late 70s and early 80s do seem predictable but at the time as a teenager I found it exciting and dangerous! And listening to the reel to reel project rips that have so far been ripped, I can get myself to enjoy that old bluesy rock stuff by imagining myself as my geography teacher listening on an old radiogram late at night. With my accelerated journey through the late 80s to late 90s ripping the Lee Tapes, I can see why he played most of the stuff that he did. But you almost have to become several personalities to like it all. A long standing blind spot for me has been Capt Beefheart but I am getting there, give it another 20 years and I will be a fan! On 15 January 2019 19:28:20 GMT+00:00, "johnpeel3904@yahoo.co.uk [peel]" > wrote: I liked Peel shows where he mixed indie, folk, world music, hip hop, electronic, etc all in one show. He started doing that in the early 80's, somewhere from the start of 1983 onwards. I wasn't a fan of his shows during the late 70's and early 80's, where it was just only punk and reggae. I thought that was very limiting & boring, even though I like those types of music. I wasn't keen on much of his early 70's stuff, with the prog rock stuff but I did like occasionally his Night Ride shows, which had a mixture of different music from the late 60's. I think in my opinion his best shows were from the mid 80's until early 90's. From mutetourettes@... Wed Jan 16 09:55:20 2019 From: mutetourettes@... (Mark) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 08:55:20 +0000 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year Message-ID: As a 100% devoted Peel-child (listening from late 80s onwards) I feel that I perhaps should now come out and say "I never really got into the Fall". Yup. God knows I've tried, listened on Peel shows enough, got the singles box set even, saw (and enjoyed) their very orange set at reading 1990.. but somehow doesn't click Also don't get beefheart, but, yeah.. maybe you had to be there... I'm also starting to realise I never liked Pavement that much either... listening now they seem like a second rate 'lite' sonic youth tribute... can't actually remember if Peel liked them or not.. Still the stuff he turned me on to far far outweighs those... I'm with Dr Mango (and probably a similar age!) in that I didn't get on with some of the african/old etc bits and bobs, but now I can enjoy that's really great stuff! So.. getting older.... From M.Luetchford@... Wed Jan 16 22:09:40 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (m.luetchford) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:09:40 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year Message-ID: <4mtwxeg5vk4dll0uvyq3xx4i.1547672155823@...> Mark - well done as the only one brave enough  to come out as a Fall refusenik. Good on yer. maybe we should set up a support group. interestingly I am with those of you  who fessed up on beefheart -  apart from ice cream for crow but that is largely because of the video thathas stuck in my mind for 30 odd years for no apparent reason ... being around for the joy with he shared the Bhundu Boys and Nigerian exponents of high life means that every year I still go to Womad. And as for  roots reggae and Ska/rocksteady i listen to that more than anything else nowadays. i think it has now altered my neural pathways so i am programmed to listen to it.  mark Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: "Mark mutetourettes@gmail.com [peel]" Date: 16/01/2019 08:55 (GMT+00:00) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year   As a 100% devoted Peel-child (listening from late 80s onwards) I feel that I perhaps should now come out and say "I never really got into the Fall". Yup. God knows I've tried, listened on Peel shows enough, got the singles box set even, saw (and enjoyed) their very orange set at reading 1990.. but somehow doesn't click Also don't get beefheart, but, yeah.. maybe you had to be there... I'm also starting to realise I never liked Pavement that much either... listening now they seem like a second rate 'lite' sonic youth tribute... can't actually remember if Peel liked them or not.. Still the stuff he turned me on to far far outweighs those... I'm with Dr Mango (and probably a similar age!) in that I didn't get on with some of the african/old etcbits and bobs, but now I can enjoy that's really great stuff! So..  getting older.... From johnpeel3904@... Wed Jan 16 22:16:09 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 16 Jan 2019 21:16:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate In-Reply-To: References: <1024085476.620003.1547568948346.ref@...> <1024085476.620003.1547568948346@...> ,<6D107420-6288-428B-80CB-1EA69FAC8359@...> Message-ID: Thanks Tim. It's great that there are Peel shows that will be one day see the light From M.Luetchford@... Wed Jan 16 22:16:26 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (m.luetchford) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:16:26 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate Message-ID: <1itmrmvsb858ckpttk75t2yy.1547673217925@...> thanks Tim. and for me it is really gratifying that the people who started this endeavour and those who have shared their love for the music John played and the way he played it have helped you discover so much and  even more fantastic that you are now also doing so much to preserve his legacy!  The ever thankful Mark Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@hotmail.co.uk [peel]" Date: 15/01/2019 21:23 (GMT+00:00) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Peel's Picks: Love & Hate   I was born in 95, so unfortunately didn’t listen to John Peel while I was growing up, I discovered his shows later, through my interest in cassettes and reel to reel etc, and my interest in transferring them to the wiki.  However I had already listened to quite a variety of music while growing up. Of course I love listening to John’s delivery, and how much of a real personality he has. Regarding the music, I initially couldn’t get The Fall, but with repeated listening, I have grown to like some of it a lot. I enjoy shows from all decades, but my favourite period is probably from the late seventies to late 80s. I particularly enjoy The early punk, all the reggae, things such as the Cocteau twins, Xmal Deutschland, Siouxsie and the banshees, the Smiths, The Primitives, initially I wasn’t sure about the African tracks, but again have grown to really enjoy these. I still haven’t really managed to enjoy The grind core stuff, Bolt thrower, extreme noise terror etc. Having said that, in the context of the program, I do kind of enjoy the tracks in a way, but wouldn’t buy the LP, put it that way. By the way, I recently got hold of a job lot of reel to reel tapes of Peel shows from mainly early 80s I think, maybe some late 70s to. So these will be up soon. I have also made contact with somebody else who says he has some cassettes  of shows from the late seventies/early 80s, but haven’t heard back from him in a while.      On 15 Jan 2019, at 20:54, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] wrote:   Looking back now the late 70s and early 80s do seem predictable but at the time as a teenager I found it exciting and dangerous! And listening to the reel to reel project rips that have so far been ripped, I can get myself to enjoy that old bluesy rock stuff by imagining myself as my geography teacher listening on an old radiogram late at night. With my accelerated journey through the late 80s to late 90s ripping the Lee Tapes, I can see why he played most of the stuff that he did. But you almost have to become several personalities to like it all. A long standing blind spot for me has been Capt Beefheart but I am getting there, give it another 20 years and I will be a fan! On 15 January 2019 19:28:20 GMT+00:00, "johnpeel3904@yahoo.co.uk [peel]" wrote:   I liked Peel shows where he mixed indie, folk, world music, hip hop, electronic, etc all in one show. He started doing that in the early 80's, somewhere from the start of 1983 onwards. I wasn't a fan of his shows during the late 70's and early 80's, where it was just only punk and reggae. I thought that was very limiting & boring, even though I like those types of music. I wasn't keen on much of his early 70's stuff, with the prog rock stuff but I did like occasionally his Night Ride shows, which had a mixture of different music from the late 60's. I think in my opinion his best shows were from the mid 80's until early 90's.  From johnpeel3904@... Wed Jan 16 22:10:35 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 16 Jan 2019 21:10:35 +0000 Subject: (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peel definitely liked Pavement. He played them quite alot on his shows. He was introduced to Pavement by David Gedge of the Wedding Present, who mentioned in 1990 to him about the group. Check out how much Peel played Pavement below: Pavement http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Pavement From dr_mango2004@... Thu Jan 17 16:32:56 2019 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year References: <867405306.1772293.1547739176182.ref@...> Message-ID: <867405306.1772293.1547739176182@...> The fact that early Pavement sounded like The Fall c.1980 probably had something to do with it. DM -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 16/1/19, johnpeel3904@... [peel] wrote: Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 16 January, 2019, 21:10   Peel definitely liked Pavement. He played them quite alot on his shows. He was introduced to Pavement by David Gedge of the Wedding Present, who mentioned in 1990 to him about the group. 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Thu Jan 17 22:16:11 2019 From: johnpeel3904@... (johnpeel3904@...) Date: 17 Jan 2019 21:16:11 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: (Belated) Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <867405306.1772293.1547739176182@...> References: <867405306.1772293.1547739176182.ref@...> <867405306.1772293.1547739176182@...> Message-ID: And here is Pavement covering The Fall's The Classical YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_STY9g7-YPA From webbiewebbster@... Sat Jan 19 19:09:06 2019 From: webbiewebbster@... (webbiewebbster@...) Date: 19 Jan 2019 18:09:06 +0000 Subject: Sheila Ravenscroft on Radio 4 Message-ID: (For anyone reading this in the future) Loose Ends - Saturday 19th January 2019 - 6;15pm GMT https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000240g https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000240g From timgiebel@... Mon Jan 21 21:46:12 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:46:12 +0000 Subject: New shows uploaded Message-ID: I have digitised several of the reel to reel tapes over the last few days, and I have uploaded several to the mooo, so far there are a couple from December 1982, one from November 82, one from 1978 etc, The dates are on the files. Just checking that they have uploaded successfully? If so, please would somebody be able to wikify them? I will be uploading more over the next few days. It’s a great collection, the recordings are mostly alright,, though not crystal clear. The good news is there are several shows with no edits. It seems that they have been recorded from VHF, but on a mono recorder. From stuartb@... Mon Jan 21 23:53:07 2019 From: stuartb@... (Stuart Brooks) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 22:53:07 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> Hi Tim got them all, and I've started wikifying them (or, fandomising as it is now) the 13th Dec 1982 show was most enjoyable! On 21 January 2019 20:46:12 GMT+00:00, "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@... [peel]" wrote: >I have digitised several of the reel to reel tapes over the last few >days, and I have uploaded several to the mooo, so far there are a >couple from December 1982, one from November 82, one from 1978 etc, The >dates are on the files. Just checking that they have uploaded >successfully? If so, please would somebody be able to wikify them? I >will be uploading more over the next few days. >It’s a great collection, the recordings are mostly alright,, though not >crystal clear. The good news is there are several shows with no edits. >It seems that they have been recorded from VHF, but on a mono recorder. > From timgiebel@... Tue Jan 22 00:18:48 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:18:48 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> References: ,<817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> Message-ID: Thanks Stuart that’s brilliant! I will be uploading this evening or maybe tomorrow, a complete show of 06 December 1982, and an incomplete recording of the 31st of March 1980. On 21 Jan 2019, at 23:04, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] > wrote: Hi Tim got them all, and I've started wikifying them (or, fandomising as it is now) the 13th Dec 1982 show was most enjoyable! On 21 January 2019 20:46:12 GMT+00:00, "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@hotmail.co.uk [peel]" > wrote: I have digitised several of the reel to reel tapes over the last few days, and I have uploaded several to the mooo, so far there are a couple from December 1982, one from November 82, one from 1978 etc, The dates are on the files. Just checking that they have uploaded successfully? If so, please would somebody be able to wikify them? I will be uploading more over the next few days. It’s a great collection, the recordings are mostly alright,, though not crystal clear. The good news is there are several shows with no edits... It seems that they have been recorded from VHF, but on a mono recorder. From M.Luetchford@... Tue Jan 22 20:52:52 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 19:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: References: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> Message-ID: <1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> Great contribution - many thanks. Ellery Bop - fine example of their genre! On Monday, 21 January 2019, 23:23:43 GMT, Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@... [peel] wrote:   Thanks Stuart that’s brilliant! I will be uploading this evening or maybe tomorrow, a complete show of 06 December 1982, and an incomplete recording of the 31st of March 1980. On 21 Jan 2019, at 23:04, Stuart Brooks stuartb@... [peel] wrote:   Hi Tim got them all, and I've started wikifying them (or, fandomising as it is now) the 13th Dec 1982 show was most enjoyable! On 21 January 2019 20:46:12 GMT+00:00, "Tim Giebel-Inanlootimgiebel@... [peel]" wrote:   I have digitised several of the reel to reel tapes over the last few days, and I have uploaded several to the mooo, so far there are a couple from December 1982, one from November 82, one from 1978 etc, The dates are on the files. Just checking that they have uploaded successfully? If so, please would somebody be able to wikify them? I will be uploading more over the next few days. It’s a great collection, the recordings are mostly alright,, though not crystal clear. The good news is there are several shows with no edits... It seems that they have been recorded from VHF, but on a mono recorder. From timgiebel@... Tue Jan 22 21:08:11 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 20:08:11 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: <1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> References: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> ,<1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> Message-ID: Yes I’m really enjoying these shows too while digitising! I’ve just uploaded the 21st of December 1982, again a complete programme. I have five more of these reels to digitise, and then one more that I got from another seller. On 22 Jan 2019, at 19:59, MARK LUETCHFORD M.Luetchford@btopenworld.com [peel] > wrote: Great contribution - many thanks. Ellery Bop - fine example of their genre! On Monday, 21 January 2019, 23:23:43 GMT, Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@hotmail.co.uk [peel] > wrote: Thanks Stuart that’s brilliant! I will be uploading this evening or maybe tomorrow, a complete show of 06 December 1982, and an incomplete recording of the 31st of March 1980. On 21 Jan 2019, at 23:04, Stuart Brooks stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] > wrote: Hi Tim got them all, and I've started wikifying them (or, fandomising as it is now) the 13th Dec 1982 show was most enjoyable! On 21 January 2019 20:46:12 GMT+00:00, "Tim Giebel-Inanloo timgiebel@hotmail.co.uk [peel]" > wrote: I have digitised several of the reel to reel tapes over the last few days, and I have uploaded several to the mooo, so far there are a couple from December 1982, one from November 82, one from 1978 etc, The dates are on the files. Just checking that they have uploaded successfully? If so, please would somebody be able to wikify them? I will be uploading more over the next few days. It’s a great collection, the recordings are mostly alright,, though not crystal clear. The good news is there are several shows with no edits.... It seems that they have been recorded from VHF, but on a mono recorder. From stuartb@... Tue Jan 22 22:40:02 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 22 Jan 2019 21:40:02 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: References: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> ,<1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> Message-ID: Just wondering about the tape that is named JP Excerpts 15th Feb 1983. The second part of that tape is from the 19th January, and the Ellery Bop session which was the first part of the tape was broadcast on 18th January, though repeated on 15th February. It seems more likely that it the first bit is from the 18th January play of the session, unless you know for a fact that it is from February? Stuart From timgiebel@... Tue Jan 22 23:14:54 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:14:54 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: References: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> ,<1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> , Message-ID: Thanks Stuart, the tapes are not actually labelled, so you are probably right about that. I can’t remember why I thought it was the 15th of February rather than in January, but I’m sure you’re right that it is January, that makes much more sense. On 22 Jan 2019, at 21:40, stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] > wrote: Just wondering about the tape that is named JP Excerpts 15th Feb 1983. The second part of that tape is from the 19th January, and the Ellery Bop session which was the first part of the tape was broadcast on 18th January, though repeated on 15th February. It seems more likely that it the first bit is from the 18th January play of the session, unless you know for a fact that it is from February? Stuart From thebarguest@... Sat Jan 26 16:53:29 2019 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest@...) Date: 26 Jan 2019 15:53:29 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: References: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> ,<1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> , Message-ID: Wow, what a treasure trove ! Many thanks, Tim, you've made my day/week/ even month ! From timgiebel@... Sat Jan 26 17:08:38 2019 From: timgiebel@... (Tim Giebel-Inanloo) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:08:38 +0000 Subject: [peel] New shows uploaded In-Reply-To: References: <817383C7-4384-4DDE-B622-83DD538B4B46@...> ,<1374484515.3278626.1548186772532@...> , , Message-ID: No problem :-) I’ve still got a few more to upload. some Will be up today, and a couple more over the next couple of days. I also have some Cassettes coming next week, apparently there is some early 80s peel stuff in there, but I don’t know how complete they are. On 26 Jan 2019, at 15:56, thebarguest@yahoo.co.uk [peel] > wrote: Wow, what a treasure trove ! Many thanks, Tim, you've made my day/week/ even month ! From davidquantick@... Sun Jan 27 12:19:48 2019 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: GO WEST References: <1478010515.2803163.1548587988494.ref@...> Message-ID: <1478010515.2803163.1548587988494@...> I've written a novel which has John Peel's shows as a thread throughout (and his face on the cover). This isn't a plug so don't buy it, ever: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Go-West-David-Quantick/dp/1912618702/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= It has MANY factual errors in, not all of which are deliberate. From mlefj@... Sun Jan 27 13:06:08 2019 From: mlefj@... (MLEFJ) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:06:08 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: GO WEST In-Reply-To: <1478010515.2803163.1548587988494@...> References: <1478010515.2803163.1548587988494.ref@...> <1478010515.2803163.1548587988494@...> Message-ID: <220B47F7-0497-41CA-93E2-EE033FDEA829@...> Hi David Looks good. Just ordered the £3.79 kindle version as I am very tight. Apologies James > On 27 Jan 2019, at 11:19, David Quantick davidquantick@... [peel] wrote: > > I've written a novel which has John Peel's shows as a thread throughout (and his face on the cover). This isn't a plug so don't buy it, ever: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Go-West-David-Quantick/dp/1912618702/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= > > It has MANY factual errors in, not all of which are deliberate. > From stuartb@... Mon Jan 28 21:36:32 2019 From: stuartb@... (stuartb@...) Date: 28 Jan 2019 20:36:32 +0000 Subject: More new shows Message-ID: Jonathan over on the Facebook John Peel Sessions group has started digitising his old Peel Show tapes, and the first one is an almost complete show from 25th January 1988 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/25_January_1988, previously unavailable. (Though JP3904 will have heard it as it is one of those tracklisted from the British Library!) It should appear on the Mooo shortly but Jonathan has also managed to upload it to Mega so the link is on the wiki page. Meanwhile Tim has been adding to the Reel to Reel rips, these are available in his Mooo http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/Tims_Peel_tapes/?C=M;O=A folder. The undated files are both from 9th September 1981, and the wiki has been updated by myself and JP3904. The 15th February file is actually from 18th and 19th January. Otherwise things should be where they would be expected to be. The 25th February 1982 and 1st March 1982 shows are new, edited but with Peel links. Eddie From Berlin is now up to 2nd November 1980 in the BFBS project. And I'm now up to the 460s in the Lee Tapes. As this is now an era where most of the shows are available, new content is becoming harder to find, so I'm not annotating the Date pages if the show is already complete from Max-Dat or other sources, but for completeness they are on the Mooo, and have mixtape pages as previously. Once we get to the end (2004?), then there are a couple of boxes of "miscellaneous" unedited tapes to digitise. I came across one of these and this is a side of 25th September 1990 https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/25_September_1990, a good sound upgrade on the tape that's available. Stuart/weatherman22 From M.Luetchford@... Mon Jan 28 22:52:30 2019 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [peel] More new shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71659544.4374546.1548712350476@...> Thanks for that and to all those who keep them coming over the net! On Monday, 28 January 2019, 20:42:35 GMT, stuartb@... [peel] wrote:   Jonathan over on the Facebook John Peel Sessions group has started digitising his old Peel Show tapes, and the first one is an almost complete show from 25th January 1988, previously unavailable. (Though JP3904 will have heard it as it is one of those tracklisted from the British Library!) It should appear on the Mooo shortly but Jonathan has also managed to upload it to Mega so the link is on the wiki page. Meanwhile Tim has been adding to the Reel to Reel rips, these are available in his Mooo folder. The undated files are both from 9th September 1981, and the wiki has been updated by myself and JP3904. The 15th February file is actually from 18th and 19th January. Otherwise things should be where they would be expected to be. The 25th February 1982 and 1st March 1982 shows are new, edited but with Peel links. Eddie From Berlin is now up to 2nd November 1980 in the BFBS project. And I'm now up to the 460s in the Lee Tapes. As this is now an era where most of the shows are available, new content is becoming harder to find, so I'm not annotating the Date pages if the show is already complete from Max-Dat or other sources, but for completeness they are on the Mooo, and have mixtape pages as previously. Once we get to the end (2004?), then there are a couple of boxes of "miscellaneous" unedited tapes to digitise. I came across one of these and this is a side of 25th September 1990,  a good sound upgrade on the tape that's available. Stuart/weatherman22