[peel] Re: Derby Box begins.. (Russians)

Rocker rockerq@...
Sat Jun 13 13:32:20 CEST 2015


Yes, that's one of the tapes that has disappeared along with ripper CCM. The batch of 10 x 400 Box cassettes was sent to him in 2008.

Unable to contact since - letters returned 'not known at this address' - email bounces back.
 

 Rocker



 

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From: RobF robfleay@ntlworld.com [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com>
To: peel <peel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2015 9:29 am
Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins.. (Russians)


    
   
    
     
    
     
Looks like that whole batch of 400 Box tapes went to a ripper identified as "CCM" and none were ever digitised     
     
      
     
     
 Rocker should have a record of who they are and where the tapes were posted to. It would be good to find the missing tapes     
    
    
     
     
On 13 June 2015 at 01:43, Ian Johnson       i_d_johnson@... [peel]       <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:      
      
        
         
        
         
         
          Hi Rob         
         
          
         
         
          Thanks for the Russians snippet, great quality but shame it's so short. We've been looking for the repeat broadcast for ages, do you know if the rest of 22 August 1979 is around somewhere. Stuart has said in the past that there was a tape of it that went to someone to convert & he disappeared but we can't remember  if that was from the Derby box so we still live in hope.         
         
          
         
         
          Cheers         
         
          Ian & Julie (vocalist, Russians)          
         
          
           
            
             
              From: "RobF robfleay@... [peel]" <peel@yahoogroups.com>
 To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, 22 May 2015, 14:05
 Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..
             
            
            
            
             
                               
                
                 
                  
                 
                  
                   
                    
                     
                      
                       
                        
                         
                          
                           
                            
                             
                              
                               
                               
This week's installment of the Derby Box from me. Quite a disappointing selection with almost all shows having been previously shared.                               
                               
                              
DB096 & DB097 contain the full show from                               06 August 1979                              
                             
Sessions from Jimmy Norton's Explosion and The Rezillos                             
                            
Almost the whole show was shared previously from the 400 Box                            
                           
                           
                            Mooo                            
                           
                           
                            
                           
DB097 then contains 1 hour 10 minutes of the show from                            09 August 1979                           
                          
Session from The Cravats                          
                         
                         
Whole show already shared previously from the 400 Box                          
                         
                         Mooo                         
                         
                        
DB098 contains 47 minutes of the show from                         13 August 1979                        
                       
Sessions from Steel Pulse and Loudon Wainwright III                       
Almost the whole show was shared previously from the 400 Box                       
                      
                      Mooo                      
                      
                     
DB098 & DB099 contain 1 hour 34 minutes of the show from                      15 August 1979                     
                    
Sessions from Cockney Rejects and Gang Of Four                    
Whole show already shared previously from the 400 Box                    
                   
                   Mooo                   
                   
                  
DB099 & DB100 contain the full show from                   20 August 1979                  
                  
Sessions from Merton Parkas and The Vapors                   
                  
                  
90 minutes of the show already shared previously from the 400 Box                   
                  
                  
                   Mooo                   
                   
                  
                  
DB100 & DB101 contain the full show from                    21 August 1979                   
                  
                  
Sessions from Nikki & The Dots and The Piranhas                   
PREVIOUSLY UNSHARED - HURRAH!                   
                  
                  
                   Mooo                   
                   
                  
                  
The very end of DB101 contains 2 and a half minutes of the show from                    22 August 1979                   
                  
                  
Session from The Russians                   
                  
                  
Previously unshared (for what it's worth!)                   
                  
                  
                   Mooo                   
                   
                   
                  
                  
                   
                   
                  
                  
                   
                    
                    
                     
                      
                       
                        
                        
On 12 May 2015 at 15:38, RobF                          <robfleay@...> wrote:                         
                         
                          
                           
                            
                             
                              
                               
Nearing two-thirds of the way through my batch of the Derby Box and here is the news..                                
                                
                               
DB091 contains the first 47 minutes of the show from                                16 July 1979                                
The last 40 minutes of the show was previously shared from the 400 Box, so this Derby Box section is a completely unshared portion. Sessions from Purple Hearts and Leyton Buzzards                               
                              
                             
                             Mooo                             
                             
                            
The rest of DB091 and DB092 contain the first 1 hour 10 minutes of the show from                             17 July 1979                            
                           
No sessions, an all records show. Previously available in full from the 400 Box                           
                           
                            
                             
                              Mooo                              
                             
                             
                              
                             
                             
DB092 and DB093 contain the full show from                                23 July 1979                              
                             
                             
Sessions from Tubeway Army and UK Subs. Not only was this show available in full from the 400 Box, but it has also been previously remastered by SIG from the 400 Box tapes.                              
                             
                             
                              Mooo                              
                             
                             
                              
                             
                             
DB093 and DB094 contain the full show from                               25 July 1979                              
                             
                             
Sessions from Secret Affair and The Expelaires. Only a 22 minute segment from the middle of this show has previously been shared from the 400 Box, so this is a treat                              
                             
                             
                              Mooo                              
                              
                             
                             
And finally the remainder of DB094 provides the missing 25 minutes from the start of the show on                               30 July 1979                              
                             
                             
The rest of this show was shared right back at the start of the Derby Box project, as it was one of the reference tapes that Chris gave me to test before we made an offer on the whole lot. So now we have the full show in wonderful Derby Box quality                              
                             
                             
Debut Sessions from The Police and Psychedelic Furs                              
                             
                             
                              Mooo                              
                              
                             
                             
Cheers                              
                             
                             
                              
                             
                            
                           
                          
                          
                           
                            
                             
                             
On 6 May 2015 at 16:43, RobF                               <robfleay@ntlworld.com> wrote:                              
                              
                               
                                
                                 
                                  
                                   
                                    
                                     
                                      
                                       
                                        
                                         
A shorter Derby Box update today, given the fun and games I had with DB090 (now all sorted)                                          
                                          
                                         
DB088 and DB089 contained the full show from                                          27 June 1979 which was already available in full from the 400 Box                                         
                                        
Sessions from Leyton Buzzards and The Raincoats. The usual sound upgrade                                        
                                       
                                       Mooo                                       
                                       
                                      
DB089 and DB090 contained a new unshared show from                                       09 July 1979                                       
                                     
Sessions from The Chords and Gang Of Four. Despite the tape problems the show is complete at 1 hour 59mins                                     
                                    
                                    Mooo                                    
                                    
                                   
The remainder of DB090 contained 42 minutes of the show from                                    12 July 1979                                   
                                  
1 hour 16 minutes was previously shared from the 400 Box, but this new rip contains the opening track which was missing from the 400 Box version. Session from Agony Column                                  
                                 
                                 Mooo                                 
                                 
                                
Enjoy                                
                                
                                 
                                  
                                   
                                    
                                     
                                      
                                       
                                        
                                       
                                      
                                     
                                    
                                   
                                  
                                 
                                
                               
                               
                                
                                 
                                  
                                  
On 2 May 2015 at 20:53, RobF                                    <robfleay@...> wrote:                                   
                                   
                                    
                                     
                                      
                                       
                                        
                                         
                                          
                                           
                                            
                                             
                                              
                                               
More Derby Box today, including my first complete tape shell disassembly. One the tapes had somehow twisted over completely in the case so the whole thing was playing backwards. I toyed with the idea of recording it like that and reversing it in SoundForge but that felt like cheating, so I dug out my tools and experience learned on my "tape maintenance training programme" (AKA the 400 Box)                                                
                                                
                                               
DB084 & DB085 contain the complete show from                                                5 June 1979 which was also present in the 400 Box, albeit 10 minutes shorter and lower quality. Session from Magazine                                               
                                              
                                              Mooo                                              
                                              
                                             
DB085 then contained one track from                                              6 June 1979 - which is from the Yachts and contains John's back announce but that's it. The only method of dating this one track is that Chris wrote it on the original track sheet and highlighted it was from that date. There is currently no other recording or tracklist from that date to confirm it though.                                             
                                            
                                            
                                             Mooo                                             
                                            
                                            
                                             
                                            
The rest of DB085 and DB086 contain the full show from                                             11 June 1979 which was also partially present in the 400 Box and the Hinton Box, but here we have the full show in decent quality. The Undertones in session.                                            
                                           
                                           Mooo                                           
                                           
                                          
Also on DB086 is a brief 13 minutes of the show from                                           14 June 1979 which has never been shared before                                          
                                         
Only 4 tracks including one track from The Ruts session                                         
                                        
                                        Mooo                                        
                                        
                                       
And finally the remainder of DB086 and DB087 comprise another full show, this time from                                        18 June 1979 although sadly another show that was already in the 400 Box and the Hinton Box, but a sound upgrade nonetheless.                                       
                                      
Sessions from Wayne County and The Specials                                      
                                     
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On 30 March 2015 at 16:32,                                         stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel]                                         <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:                                        
                                        
                                          
                                           
                                          
 Cheers again Rob.                                           
                                          
For info the 4th June show is named 29th May on the Mooo.                                           
                                          
Re the Fuji muffle, your symptoms confirm to me that the Fuji pressure pads and/or springs have deteriorated. Most decks can't maintain enough tension to keep the tape tight against the head to compensate for a faulty pressure pad unless it is a Nakamichi which actually lifts them out of the way.                                          
                                          
There might be better tension just at the point you press play as quite often when you put a tape in at first the deck will tighten the tension by rotating the capstan(s), just to reduce the chance of loose tape feeding into the deck. But you will only get the benefit of this extra tension just as you press play.                                          
                                          
If you keep a note of the worst tapes then I don't mind having a go at them after we've completed our halves of the box.                                          
                                          
Stuart                                           
                                           
                                           
                                          
                                        
                                       
                                       
                                      
                                      
                                    
                                   
                                  
                                  
                                 
                                 
                               
                              
                             
                             
                            
                            
                          
                         
                        
                        
                       
                      
                     
                    
                   
                  
                 
                 
                 
                 
                
                
               
              
              
              
             
             
            
           
           
           
           
          
        
       
      
     
     
    
     
    
    
 
   



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