[peel] Re: Derby Box begins..

[Stuart Brooks]

Sterling work, worthy of Haze and his Gumtree tapes additions. Puts my undocumented mixtapes to shame! Looks like there will have to be an updated version of 20th Nov once you get to DB040. My half of the tapes looks to be more straight forward.

The wiki, and the “List Of Shows” Google sheet have been updated with all of these details, with help from Steve SIG and JP3904

Stuart

From: mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:07 PM
To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..

  

Right - so now I have ripped the first two compilation tapes DB020 and DB030 and, thanks to Stu pointing out at least one mistake in dating and ordering the tracks, I think I now have them straight (famous last words)


9 tracks from 13 September 1978 are added from DB020 to the 2 that were already shared, so this show is now 36 mins 22 secs long
Mooo

The Revolutionaries track from 18 September 1978 is salvaged from DB020 adding a further 5 minutes or so to this show so the file length is now 1 hour 40 mins
Mooo

A further 20 minutes of 20 September 1978 appears on DB020, so the file length for that show is now 34 mins 47 seconds
Mooo

Another couple of tracks emerge on DB020 from the edited 25 September 1978 show. This is the one where he taped over the double play of Teenage Kicks. TKx2 is still missing, but the Leyton Buzzards and Devo tracks are reinserted to their rightful place. The file length is now 1 hour 49 mins
Mooo

19 minutes and 32 seconds remain of the show from 30 October 1978 on DB020 (Elvis Costello session)
Mooo

The previously messed up section of 31 October 1978 from DB030 now has the tracks from 2nd Nov removed and added some further tracks from DB020, so we have 17 minutes 34 seconds of this show
Mooo

And to correct the mistake with the original file I uploaded for 31st Oct, I've created a new file for 2 November 1978 that is 14 mins 53 secs
Mooo

I think that wraps it up. There is one more compilation tape (DB040) to rip, but there are only two shows on that tape (20-11-78 and 26-12-78) so it should be less complicated to work out . Then it's no more erased tapes/compilations after that - and should be plain sailing!

A special prize if you followed all that...








On 8 December 2014 at 13:41, RobF <robfleay@ntlworld.com> wrote:

  Thanks Stuart

  I need to sort the files out - there is some more of the 31 Oct 78 show on the compilation DB020, which I ripped last night


  On 8 December 2014 at 12:40, 'Stuart Brooks' stuartb@brooks22.plus.com [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




    Yes looks like the tracks from Conway Twitty to Upsetters Dub Line are from 2nd November 1978

    From: mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:22 PM
    To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
    Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..

      
    Hi Rob

    Just trying to catch up on the wiki, but have got a bit stuck at 31st October 1978, the bits recorded onto DB030. Although the file begins with Can, the following tracks are not from this show according to the existing tracklisting. I think the ticks didn’t necessarily correspond to the dubbed version of the tape, but that the taper had them somewhere in his collection. I’ll try and work out what’s going on, I think it will be easier to create the tape pages and work from there.

    Stuart

    From: mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 PM
    To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
    Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..

      
    A new batch of Derby Box tapes to start your Christmas countdown..


    A complete, previously unshared show from 13 November 1978
    Sessions from X Ray Spex and Matumbi
    Mooo

    The first 1 hour 10 minutes  from the previously unshared show on 20 November 1978 and then another 20 minutes or so of edited highlights from the rest of the show. The taper erased the full last section of the show from tape DB033 and dubbed his favourite bits to DB030 (more of that further down*)
    Sessions from Swell Maps and XTC. 
    Mooo

    A nearly complete show (1 hr 50), previously unshared from 27 November 1978

    Sessions from Lene Lovich and X Ray Spex


    The first 1 Hour 20 minutes of 29 November 1978

    Wailing Cocks and John Cooper Clarke in session. 55 minutes of the end of this show were shared from the 400 Box, so this completes up the missing first half
    Mooo


    *DB030 (along with DB020 and DB040 which I hope to pick up this week) is the  edited highlights of a number of erased tapes - for which we still have the original handwritten tracklists for posterity. These are all marked on the Derby Box Wiki Page as ERASED - and the tracklisting scans are on Mooo prefixed with ErasedTapennn.jpg


    So DB030 contains edited versions of

    31 October 1978 19 mins taken from ErasedTape029 (ticked tracks) available on Mooo
    07 November 1978 35 mins taken from ErasedTape030 (ticked tracks) available on Mooo
    10 November 1978 20 mins taken from ErasedTape030 (ticked tracks) available on  Mooo






    On 29 November 2014 at 12:45, RobF <robfleay@ntlworld.com> wrote:

      And it continues...


      Just the intro of the show on 12 October 1978 survives - the majority of the show (Punilux and Dr Feelgood sessions) is available from the 400 Box - but the intro isn't present, so this makes for a nice little find.
      Mooo


      Then in direct contrast we have 3 shows in their entirety (give or take the tape flips)


      A full, previously unshared show is from 19 October 1978

      Sessions from Molesters and Prag Vec
      Mooo


      A full show from the following night 20 October 1978

      An all-records show with 3 tracks from the new Status Quo album (this makes me chuckle that while he was heralding the arrival of Teenage Kicks, he was also still championing the Quo, who were heading into their decline). 45 minutes of this show have been shared previously from the 400 Box.
      Mooo


      And the full show from 23 October 1978

      The Buzzcocks and The Fall in session - already available almost in full from the 400 Box, but this version adds the missing 4-5 minutes and is a significant sound upgrade
      Mooo


      And finally for today...

      Only the first 24 minutes of the show from 24 October 1978
      Yachts in session - previously unshared. A shame there isn't more of this one.

      Mooo


      On 26 November 2014 at 13:44, RobF <robfleay@ntlworld.com> wrote:

        With so many tapes (of such excellent quality) to get through, I'm trying not to lose momentum, but apologies to anyone who is struggling to keep up with me posting them faster than you can listen to them!

        Today we have 

        The full show from 02 October 1978
        Previously unshared. The Mekons in session (and very good they are too)
        Mooo

        The full show from 03 October 1978
        1 hour was previously available from the 400 Box, but here it's in its entirety and contains the debut Siouxsie album played in full (which Ken's book mentions as happening on 6th October - so the book could be wrong?) and a session from Wire. 
        Mooo

        The first 47 minutes of the show on 11 October 1978
        UK Subs in session. the rest of the show is available from the 400 Box so this makes the full show now available
        Mooo

        I might have a breather now, as I'm offline for a couple of days




        On 25 November 2014 at 09:55, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:

          Thanks as always to Branko for extending the disk space on Mooo once more, so that we can share these amazing Derby Box recordings. There may well be an avalanche now that Stuart has made a start on his batch too..

          Today from me we have:

          1 hour and 35 minutes of 18 September 1978
          A previously unshared show with sessions from Doctor Feelgood and Stiff Little Fingers
          Mooo

          1 hours and 45 minutes of the 25 September 1978
          Already partially available from the 400 Box - this is the show where he plays Teenage Kicks twice, but the taper didn't like it and so taped over that segment?! The show then carries on to the end.(NB the missing section is luckily in the 400 Box version for posterity)
          Sessions from Motorhead  and The Skids
          Mooo

          Then we have a 15 minute selection of some tracks from 20 September 1978
          This is what he taped over the Teenage Kicks section with - he compiled his favourite tracks from this show - and then erased the rest of that tape Original tracklisting was here (it also included the end of the 18 Sept 78 show). Some of his other favourite tracks from this show are compiled on Tape020 when I get there. Sessions from Prag Vec and Whitecats. It's a previously unshared show, so a shame that it was edited down like this.
          Mooo

          1 hour and 12 minutes of another unshared show from 28 September 1978
          Sessions from Solid Senders (featuring Wilko Johnson) and Viv Stanshall - although Viv's Rawlinson End piece must have been towards the end of the show, therefore is missing from this tape.
          Mooo

          I've also managed to date the previously undated two tracks from DB010. These were also compiled from a tape which he then erased (thankfully it looks like he stopped doing this by about Tape040). They are from
          13 September 1978
          Sessions from Hot Water and Roy Harper. Original tracklisting was here and again, some more tracks from this show are compiled on Tape020 when I get there.
















          On 24 November 2014 at 10:16, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote:

            Today's instalment of the Derby Box is as follows:

            The last of the Gambaccini Stand-In tapes. This is 45 minutes from the start of the show on 07-September-1978
            This was marked as Friday Rock Show on the original taper's spreadsheet - most likely based on the classic-rock tinged playlist. Repeated sessions from Graham Parker and Ian Dury. Previously unshared.
            Mooo

            The first 45 minutes of Peel on 11 September 1978
            Sessions from Racing Cars and The Adverts. The next 45 minutes of the show are on tape DB013 which is one that the original taper sold on ebay (on account of DB013 having the first play of Teenage Kicks on Side B - 12th Sept). Hopefully the list member who bought this tape will share it soon! None of this show has been shared before
            Mooo

            95 minutes (a long C90!) of 14 September 1978
            Only one session -  from Radio Stars, a notable show for the second play of Teenage Kicks. Peel recounts being called by one of the band to say thanks for the initial play, and goes on to add that he has already heard of record company interest for them. "A really excellent record it is too"
            20 minutes of this show were previously shared from the 400 Box (but didn't include the Undertones section)
            Mooo





            On 23 November 2014 at 22:50, Vince Nzo meltormentsingers@... [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




              Gruppo was a wonderful little Dutch band and the pride of alternative Holland. I love their singles and albums. Hans Vandenberg was a very smart writer with a bit of a Bonzo's streak with regards to clever lyrics. ...In Japan they don't have stereo but kimono...that kinda work :)



              Vince






------------------------------------------------------------------
              From: "Rocker rockerq@... [peel]" <peel@yahoogroups.com>
              To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
              Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:15 AM 

              Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..


                
              This one willl be fascinating for me - I remember listening to it in the comfort of the parental home, three weeks before moving to a strange new town (Bristol) to be a student - I must have been impressed by the Gruppo Sportivo session because on my first night off the leash I walked two miles across the outskirts of town, map in hand, to see them play at what was then Bristol Polytechnic.

              Soon after that, like so many bands, they disappeared entirely, presumably back to Holland, but I still dig out their single 'rock'n'roll' occasionally.

              Rocker




              -----Original Message-----
              From: RobF robfleay@... [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com>
              To: peel <peel@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 9:57 am
              Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Derby Box begins..


                
              Today's Derby box tape is 90 minutes of the 06 September 1978 show - the third night of Paul Gambaccini standing in for Peel that week.


              Sessions from Squeeze and Gruppo Sportivo

              1978-09-06 (Paul Gambaccini)


              I'm guessing from the slightly smoother playlists that went on this week, these were programmed by PG and not Peel


              I wouldn't recommend you all rush to this one, I can only listen to about 5 seconds of Gambo before wanting to stick my head in a bucket of water. Back in 1978 he was particularly smarmy


              Apologies to the Gambo fans



              On 20 November 2014 14:04, RobF <robfleay@...> wrote: 
                I'm glad that the Derby Box is generating so many positive comments, it's been a joy to rip so far (and many many thanks to Steve for keeping on top the wiki!) but today's tape confused me completely for a moment


                It turns out that the original taper erased his first attempts at Tape DB003 and Tape DB009 and dubbed his favourite bits to Tape DB010. 


                You can see from his original tracklists here
                http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape003.jpg
                http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/RobF/Derby%20Box%20Tracklistings/ErasedTape009.jpg

                that everything he ticked - was dubbed to DB010 and the rest was sadly erased.


                So DB010 is a compilation of sorts, but nonetheless contains


                3 tracks from the end of 18 August 1978 which slightly extends the version of the show shared last week from DB002

                Blast Furnace and Hits (AKA Snivelling Shits) in session

                Mooo


                Just over an hour of 30 August 1978 of which 40 minutes was previously avaible in lower quality on the 400 Box

                Pirates and Punishment Of Luxury in session
                Mooo


                A couple of tracks that must have been dubbed from elsewhere (not clear where at this point) and it's impos sible to date them from the brief snippets of talking but I assume from 1978
                1978-XX-XX/



                And then some none-Peel content - a few songs from Rock On 19th Aug 1978 (I couldn't identify the presenter but Steve tells me it's Stuart Grundy) - includes an interview with City Boy
                Rock On















                On 20 November 2014 00:26, thebarguest@... [peel] <peel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



                  Many thanks Rob! Just played 780828 and it's one of the best Peel shows I've ever heard ! The audio quality is amazing, like it's from last week!Magazine were my fave band from 78 to 81. Maybe if I'd have heard the previous rip on headphones I'd have noticed it ; I hate digital artefacts - heard them a lot in the early days of mp3/sharing - like a faint bubbling noise, horrible...