[peel] Re: Say it to the rest On behalf of Zomgqashiyo
Roger Carruthers
unity.gain@...
Fri Oct 18 18:21:34 CEST 2013
If ever you find yourself getting too precious about audio quality, try
this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
Why these were not on the reading list when I did my Masters in Sound
Engineering, I'll never know ;-)
Cheers
Roger
I get rather hacked off when people start bleating about lossless formats,
as if it's going to make ANY difference to the sonic quality of aged
recordings often made on cheap tapes and ripped years later on a different
tape deck often without azimuth correction.
On a personal note, I'm not prepared to wait around for an hour at a time
while a massive wav / flac file is uploaded to whatever file server is
called into use. My time is more important, as is my bandwidth.
DM
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013, 12:59, Stuart Brooks <stuartb@...> wrote:
I¹ve always thought that the quality of the ripping (eg make sure tape heads
and transport are in good condition, use a 3 head deck, adjust azimuth) and
of the original source (AM/FM) were of much greater importance. There are
quite a few ripped tapes out there that could have done with some azimuth
tweaking and that¹s something that you can¹t fix down the line. And Dolby
level mismatch on playback can have some seriously strange results.
If you drop much below 192kbps then the best FM recordings would start to
sound a bit more squishy on a good system but I really doubt that any of the
tapes we have would really benefit from wav over say a 320kpbs mp3. Once you
drop below 128kpbs then audio becomes much more noticeably cardboardy and
flat.
There are a few of the oldest Peel shows out there which were output as wav
and they sound awful, due to poor tapes/decks, and a well ripped mp3 even at
128kpbs sounds much better.
I have kept lossless flacs of everything I¹ve ripped as no doubt one day
there will be a Supermooo and we¹ll all have Superfast broadband and 10Tb
discs.....
From: Mark <mailto:mutetourettes@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:36 PM
To: peel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [peel] Re: Say it to the rest On behalf of Zomgqashiyo
heheh well I'm happy to upload the wav files if someone tells me where to
stick it...
it's an interesting debate, and I've been tempted to up the bitdepth and
sampling rate of tapes I archive (mostly public talks etc, not radio) just
in case some mythical future noise-reduction/restoration thingmyjig can use
the extra bits... but I got that nice old apogee A/D converter (it's limited
to 16/48 and under) for next to nothing and it sounds so nice that I tend to
use it and be satisfied with that rather than save up for 24/96 gear of
similar quality.. I haven't done much comparing of the consumer-level 24/96
gear that I have... doesn't seem worth the extra storage space..
In this case I think it's pretty moot, as there's radio tuning/interference
farts and whatnot... but hey...
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