[peel] RE: The John Peel lecture

[RobF]

I wasn't being entirely serious. Kershaw's book was quite annoying in how
far he went to try and discredit Peel. Pure jealousy I think. Particulalry
as he nonchalantly paints his own childhood as wanting for nothing and
being spoiled rotten




On 16 October 2013 14:13, <rockerq@...> wrote:

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> Just because he was a public school boy doesn't mean he didn't hold
> genuine and heartfelt beliefs, surely? He was certainly a pacifist, no
> doubt from his hippy days, but also I think a lot of his Home Truths output
> showed him to be a quite genuine soft-left inclined liberal.
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> I still remember how, at the outbreak of the first gulf war in August
> 1990, when all BBC broadcasters had been given instructions not to
> broadcast anything war-related, and even Massive Attack had had to shorten
> their name to Massive to get airplay, he ended his show with the perfect,
> haunting, fervently anti-war accapella version of "And The Band Played
> Waltzing Matilda" by June Tabor - a deathbed song of how a previously
> carefree Australian hobo has his legs blown off by a Turkish shell at
> Gallipolli in the first world war - "I'll go waltzin' Matilda no more".
> Still has me in tears whenever I hear it - mind you, I'm also an ex-Public
> schoolboy.
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> Rocker
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>  -----Original Message-----
> From: RobF <robfleay@...>
> To: peel <peel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11 am
> Subject: Re: [peel] RE: The John Peel lecture
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>   According to Andy Kershaw it was all an act. He was a public school boy
> working in the BBC. Like all the others (including Andy Kershaw)
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>  On 16 October 2013 09:26, MARK LUETCHFORD <M.Luetchford@...>wrote:
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>>  Suppose you are right - it was a bit trite and I suspect she was
>> selected for media effect and an attempt to build on the
>> Sinead/Miley/Annie Lennox debate. I found this more interesting:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03ccz14 Being a dad of teenage boy and
>> girls and seeing what they continue to put up with 40 years after
>> feminism's strongest flowering any further discussion/action on such
>> subjects and challenging of the status quo is welcome in my house
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>>  Still not convinced about link to Peel - Mary Ann looked for a link in
>> the producers in his later career being women. But as with most of his
>> personal politics I don't remember him vocalising his views on feminism
>> much - occasionally he expressed a politically strong sentiment - I can
>> remember one on the miners strike when he played The Enemy Within and a few
>> gentle comments about Thatcherism when he played the Redskins. Also a few
>> time she criticised the glamorisation of violence and over sexualisation of
>> gangster rap/dancehall stylee. And as I said before he did champion many
>> women led bands. You just got a sense of his general leftism - but maybe I
>> am projecting my own views?
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>>  A more interesting subject might be why we are all men (I think) - and
>> why his devoted fans tended to be of the male persuasion ... is it
>> something to do with the male brain?! In traditional folk music around the
>> world the musicians are often men and the vocalists women. Does that
>> reflect male domination of traditional society or something else? Discuss.
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>>  M
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>>  *From:* "dunelm@..." <dunelm@...>
>> *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 22:26
>> *Subject:* [peel] RE: The John Peel lecture
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>> For those who missed it, Ms Church exclusively revealed that some record
>> companies – get this – exploit the sexuality of female recording artists in
>> order to shift units.
>>  Thanks for the heads up, Charlotte.
>>   ---In peel@yahoogroups.com, <M.Luetchford@...> wrote:
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>>   Heard a clip on R4 Today programme and liked what I heard ... seemed
>> to speak sense to me about the sexualisation of the music industry to make
>> big bucks for corporations - even liked the blaming of Madonna for the
>> phenomena. It was worth it to hear the phrase "get your tits out for the
>> boys" at 7.30ish in the morning. will listen to see if there was a link to
>> Peel
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>>    *From:* Pete Conkerton <klacktoveedesteen@...>
>> *To:* "peel@yahoogroups.com" <peel@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 0:40
>> *Subject:* [peel] The John Peel lecture
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>>   Here it is then, let battle commence...
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>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/jpl
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>> I thought some interesting points were made, though I didn't agree with
>> all of it. The best bit for me, though, is the lovely tribute from Mary
>> Anne Hobbs right at the beginning.
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>>  Cheers aye, Pete
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