Rich 160
Rich Less
rich.westham@...
Wed Mar 20 15:19:34 CET 2013
Yes, the mixtapes should be different dates to the more complete shows. At the very least i had to cut out all those african songs that peel became obsessed with ;-) (not my type of noise).
The mixtapes are probably marked 4/5/10 June 89 or similar, so cut from 4th, 5th, 10th June etc.
Hopefully you can work out the years on those with just dates. Sloppy admin on my part, not like me at all !
Rich
--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" <stuartb@...> wrote:
>
> I think the mix tapes are largely from different shows to the unedited ones,
> and are the ones that the handwritten tracklistings are for. So hopefully no
> duplication. These are concentrated in 1989. It looks like the yearless
> tapes are unedited as there is only one date per tape.
>
>
>
> There are a few completely non-peel related (like the concert bootlegs and
> the Hi Tech tape) but really just a handful.
>
>
>
> Anyway all will gradually become clear!
>
>
>
> Yes Rocker looks after the funds, so if you make direct contact he will
> reimburse all (or if you prefer, as you suggest, most) of your expense.
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> mr_maudlin
> Sent: 19 March 2013 20:45
> To: peel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [peel] Re: Rich 160
>
>
>
>
>
> When I picked the tapes up from Rich he mentioned that, included in the
> bundle were some mix tapes, which I took to mean they contained his
> favourites from the unedited show tapes. (On his original post I think he
> just listed the unedited shows). So I think there will be some duplication
> of material within the 216, though that might help if you have quality
> issues with some of the cassettes. I did play one of the mix tapes and it
> did have Peely's intro and outro to each track. The mix tapes are probably
> the ones you mention that have a date but not the year (I did try and work
> out the naming convention on the mix tapes but it flummoxed me - but then
> again I failed to even count them properly...)
>
> I spent £45.90 on postage (24.50+21.40) and it would be good to get some of
> that back (don't mind leaving some of it as a donation to the group). Is it
> Rocker that holds the funds?
>
> Looking forward to reliving 1989-92 over the next few months.
>
> Cheers
> MarkC
>
>
> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> , "Stuart"
> <stuartb@> wrote:
> >
> > There were actually 136 in the second batch! So it's the Rich 216.
> >
> >
> >
> > There must be quite a few not on your original list, I have noticed quite
> a
> > few where the date but not the year is noted on the inlay.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll sort out the list of tapes over the next few days, I might renumber
> the
> > shows I have already uploaded but will do so before announcing the
> completed
> > wiki pages.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Suart
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> > mr_maudlin
> > Sent: 19 March 2013 17:06
> > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [peel] Re: Rich 160
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Glad the second batch arrived ok, I was worried that my inability to
> create
> > two equal piles of tapes was going to lead to the second box going astray
> as
> > it wasn't on 'special delivery'.
> >
> > Listened to half of the 17-10-89 show last night and it sounded really
> good.
> >
> > Mark C
> >
> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> , "Stuart"
> > <stuartb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The price you pay for being an early adopter - yep just a typo I'd
> already
> > > started wikifying the 17th Oct page. A quick ftp rename has sorted that
> > out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There's the 20th and 21st Nov to come so that might help with your
> > mixtape.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Got the second batch today Mark by the way. I shall probably leave the
> > > ripping of the "Hi-tech compact cassette" to the end, or use my second
> > deck,
> > > that one looks well dodgy!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again Rich for making these available.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> > Dr
> > > Mango
> > > Sent: 19 March 2013 00:06
> > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [peel] Re: Rich 160
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stuart, I've had a look at the files on mooo(I'm very eager to hear
> them).
> > > It looks like a typo on the file name of the first one, with Galaxie 500
> > in
> > > session - should be 17 (Oct) rather than 27.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > While I'm here, should there be recordings from 20 - 23 November 1989,
> we
> > > might finally nail the date of the mix tape I uploaded some time ago:
> > >
> > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Dr_Mango_Tape_2_%28mixtape%29
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > DM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Stuart <stuartb@>
> > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013, 15:46
> > > Subject: RE: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 and the Rich 160
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty good sound quality especially bearing in mind the humble cassette
> > > recorder used and tapes. Ripping my fourth tape at the moment. I need to
> > be
> > > ready to tweak azimuth playback on the fly on playback as it does vary
> > from
> > > one end of the tape to the other, I've had to re-record some sections as
> a
> > > result. The playback pitch also varies between tapes!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would describe as good to very good FM Stereo, no Dolby, some slight FM
> > > hiss/crackle at times. The top end is typical slightly soft TDK-D and
> > > there's good bass extension.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm ripping a batch while at my work digs and will wikify/notify each
> > batch
> > > on my days off at homeso that should start happening later this week.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're really impatient then you can find the first results on my bit
> > of
> > > the Mooo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Dr
> > > Mango
> > > Sent: 18 March 2013 15:24
> > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 and the Rich 160
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any info about the source / quality of the Rich 160 recordings, Stuart?
> > >
> > > DM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Stuart <stuartb@>
> > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013, 0:17
> > > Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 and the Rich 160
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nearer 300 SL tapes by my reckoning!
> > >
> > > I too did have a little Genesis phase I have to admit but went
> completely
> > > off them around the Abacab period. Followed PG (up to PG4) rather than
> PC
> > > though did like In The Air Tonight and PCs drumming on PG3 was OK I
> > suppose.
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't know about the sell-out type scenario, I wonder if it's just that
> it
> > > becomes more difficult to maintain creativity, but easier or more
> natural
> > to
> > > make what the masses would like. What I mean is, are there a group of
> > > bands/musicians who had some great original material up their sleeves
> but
> > > ditched it in preference to something that would sell more? I favour the
> > > idea that most of the bands who "sold out" actually had used up all
> their
> > > creative reserves, but still had the technical ability, the fame etc to
> > keep
> > > making a living in the industry. Fair enough, but I don't have to like
> > them
> > > any more!
> > >
> > > And maybe most bands who still did have something to say, did so, which
> is
> > > why Wire in 2004 was a fantastic gig and they didn't play a single track
> I
> > > knew from the 70s/80s/90s.
> > >
> > > I digress.
> > >
> > > I have opened and sorted the first batch of the Rich 160. There are
> > separate
> > > track listings too which I will scan (sorry Rich not quite up to the
> > beauty
> > > of the John Peel Papers listings but gold dust nonetheless).
> > >
> > > Back at work at the weekend (my ripping station is at my digs where I
> > work)
> > > so will take the first batch there and hopefully get the first few tapes
> > > online then.
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> , "rockerq@"
> > > <rockerq@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Still over 100 to come from the SL tapes!
> > > >
> > > > Rocker
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: MARK LUETCHFORD <M.Luetchford@>
> > > > To: peel <peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > > Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 12:23 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend"
> > > (3,2,3,2,6)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Wyatt - his version of ship building knocks spots of Elvis C's.
>
> > > >
> > > > But no idea about the clue? Bible studies not my strong point.
> Somthing
> > to
> > > do with Friday?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for these shows. Other new shares seem to have dried up a bit?
> > > >
> > > > looking forward to next tapes from Rocker - how many do we have left
> > > inthat stash? and has Stuart received the batch from Watford way?
> > > >
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Humphrey <thebarguest@>
> > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013, 17:25
> > > > Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend"
> (3,2,3,2,6)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Funny but I think Genesis's self-titled 1983 album is brill - maybe
> it's
> > > nostalgia for the time but there're some great toons on there -'Mama'
> > > (incredible drumming), 'Home By The Sea' etc. Yeah, like Bill, I also
> love
> > > good punk / new-wave and The Fall, Can (incredible drumming), Magazine
> > etc.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews <pa0353@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought Collins first solo album, Face Value had some interesting
> > > moments. All went down hill after that. Especially when he did Buster.
> > Peter
> > > Gabriel was certainly producing good stuff for a lot long than his
> former
> > > drummer.
> > > > >
> > > > > P
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9 Mar 2013, at 12:08, "billfromnorthwales" <billfromnorthwales@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I am with you for Gabriel up to 1980, the fist 2 albums.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll even go with you til 82.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's just that after that he went all worthy and dull.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even with his MTV phase.
> > > > > May be that is why Peel never played him much, even with all his
> World
> > > Music stable
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Nelson does not even get on the list of mildly annoying, let
> > alone
> > > most hated, so we'll have no further talk of him in this context.
> > > > >
> > > > > David Byrne may be another who comes through completely unscathed.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" <thebarguest@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, so many "sold out" / sold their souls not for r&r but for
> > > daytime-radio playlist / bank-account glory. Filthy lucre indeed !
> > > > > > Like Rooney abandoning his beloved Everton for Man U ; I wonder
> how
> > > they can sleep (did Lennon eventually sell-out ?) ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But Mr Gabriel nevah ! He adapted to new-wave and was accepted
> into
> > > the fold at the old age of 30-ish. His first solo LP is better than any
> > > Genesis platter and his other ones circa 78-82 reflect the "spirit of
> the
> > > (new)age". Likewise Sir William Nelson of Bebopshire ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales"
> > > <billfromnorthwales@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simply QED
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "rockerq@" <rockerq@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well The Frantic Elevators were great!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rocker
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: billfromnorthwales <billfromnorthwales@>
> > > > > > > > To: peel <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 11:02 pm
> > > > > > > > Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend"
> > > (3,2,3,2,6)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, and Peter Gabriels's worse, the miserable sod...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But that got me thinking...People who were in good bands that
> > > became hated
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How about The Faces?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now there is a subsequent career from the singer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Beatles - Just look at what their bassist did
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roxy Music - Another crooner
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Police - Don't get me started tantric man
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well....the list goes on...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "rockerq@" <rockerq@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Get Em Out By Friday?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I never liked Genesis. And I think the subsequent career of
> > > their drummer has borne me out on this one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Rocker
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: billfromnorthwales <billfromnorthwales@>
> > > > > > > > > To: peel <mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 9:59 pm
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [peel] Re: Genesis 5:5 - "Evict before the weekend"
> > > (3,2,3,2,6)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is an anouncement from genetic control......
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which reminds me, when the conversation came up the other
> > > week...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1977 was a real crossover year, and Peel did play Genesis
> and
> > > Generation X, and Alan Freeman did play the Stones and the Stranglers,
> so
> > > there was no surprise when Peel repeated a Genesis session in 1977.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And that's why I like punk and Prog.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the shows!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512"
> > > <so_it_goes_2512@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites
> > > > > > > > > > 1) Peel 051 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_051_(BFBS)>
> > > (BFBS) , Peel
> > > > > > > > > > 052 <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_052_(BFBS)> (BFBS)
> > > > > > > > > > Dirk's files reach February 1987. Does anybody else feel
> > that
> > > music was
> > > > > > > > > > kind of treading water in this pre-grindcore period?
> > > > > > > > > > 2) 17 November 1996
> > > <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_November_1996> (Cha
> > > > > > > > > > Cha Cohen)
> > > > > > > > > > The first of the two missing files.
> > > > > > > > > > 3) 17 December 1993
> > > <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_December_1993>
> > > > > > > > > > (Fabric, Mercury Rev)
> > > > > > > > > > From the 500 Box, another tape previously thought lost,
> > > carrying on from
> > > > > > > > > > the previous share from the same source.
> > > > > > > > > > 4) 04 November 1994
> > > <http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/04_November_1994>
> > > > > > > > > > (Archers Of Loaf, Voodoo Queens)
> > > > > > > > > > Another 500 Box file, three sides of previously unshared
> JP
> > > heaven.Many
> > > > > > > > > > thanks to Dirk, Isector and Colin.
> > > > > > > > > > Best wishesSteve (TK)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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