[peel] Re: 6music cassette amnesty

[David Quantick]

They wouldn't believe me.


________________________________
 From: Nigel Wassell <nigelw@...>
To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2012, 23:06
Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 6music cassette amnesty
 

  
 
Plenty of material here for the "Blagger's Guide to 
the Peel Wikia"?
 
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: David Quantick 
>To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:24  PM
>Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 6music cassette  amnesty
>
>  
>"Like."
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: dunelm61 <dunelm@...>
>To: peel@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2012,  17:52
>Subject: [peel] Re:  6music cassette amnesty
>
>
>  
>
>
>Good points, well made.
>
>And on behalf of everyone here, 
  I'd like to wish Robin the best of luck in his A-levels.
>
>--- In peel@yahoogroups.com,  "februarycallendar" <antoniaforestforever@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
  --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey"  <thebarguest@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Do they really prefer 
  pop/rock to classical ?
>> 
>> *Some* of your other comments are 
  reasonably accurate (though Thatcherism represented a profound change from the 
  post-war establishment in all sorts of ways), but why is it so hard for you to 
  accept that Blair and Cameron really are, culturally, pretty much like most 
  people of their own generations? Why, more to the point, can you not see how 
  tightly bound-up neoliberalism and the general policies you so rightly abhor 
  are with pop and rock music?
>> 
>> Iraq was invaded, both from the 
  US and UK sides, at least partially in the name of rock'n'roll (Blair has 
  never been "secret" about liking the early 70s stuff that invented all those 
  cock-rock metal cliches - his hero in rock terms is Paul Rodgers, for fuck's 
  sake!) and most of the old Foreign Office and Tory-wet grandees - the sort of 
  people who *do* unequivocally prefer classical music - opposed the invasion. 
  You seem to equate classical music with the most right-wing policies 
  imaginable, but Labour or Tory governments in the last 15 years led by people 
  who preferred classical music would almost certainly have brought about far 
  greater economic equality, allowed far less tax evasion and deregulated 
  banking, and been far more socialist or, on the Tory side, at least accepting 
  of socialism. It's amazing how little so many people seem to know about modern 
  British history.
>> 
>> Even when they were new, Floyd and the later 
  Beatles were both loved by huge numbers of people who didn't "get" them and 
  just liked the idea of something new that their parents didn't get. In fact, 
  they were so huge that that was probably always the bulk of their audience. 
  Same as young kids in the shires today, who'll probably grow up to be 
  petty-minded Tory councillors, love the instant pop thrill of Wiley's 
  "Heatwave" and "Can You Hear Me?" without understanding their full meaning as 
  an oppressed class taking a share of mass consciousness and saying "nothing's 
  too good for us".
>> 
>> Of course I know *why* people like you 
  refuse to accept that the likes of Blair and Cameron can like pop and rock 
  music unironically and unambiguously - you don't want to admit that you might 
  have anything in common with the ruling class, and that you yourself are 
  almost certainly prejudiced against the one form of music our rulers *are* 
  still viciously prejudiced against. Far better to pretend. Happily, as a 
  Scrufizzer and Lady Leshurr fan, that's not a problem for me. *Let* the 
  bastards like mainstream rock music; it's as irrelevant to me as Strauss 
  waltzes (to whose context in the Heath era Ian Penman recently, with rare 
  perspective, compared what 6Music is under Cameron).
>> 
>> Robin 
  Carmody
>> -----
>> "Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to 
  tell people what they don't want to 
  hear."
>>
>
>
>
>