[peel] Re: 6music cassette amnesty

[RobF]

Does that mean the BBC have kept the episode of Gardener's Question Time
where John Peel was a guest and famously grew his carrots at the wrong
speed?

On 24 November 2012 18:24, David Quantick <davidquantick@...> wrote:

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> *From:* dunelm61 <dunelm@...>
> *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, 24 November 2012, 17:52
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> *Subject:* [peel] Re: 6music cassette amnesty
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> Good points, well made.
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> And on behalf of everyone here, I'd like to wish Robin the best of luck in
> his A-levels.
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> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "februarycallendar" <antoniaforestforever@...>
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> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" <thebarguest@> wrote:
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> > > Do they really prefer pop/rock to classical ?
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> > *Some* of your other comments are reasonably accurate (though
> Thatcherism represented a profound change from the post-war establishment
> in all sorts of ways), but why is it so hard for you to accept that Blair
> and Cameron really are, culturally, pretty much like most people of their
> own generations? Why, more to the point, can you not see how tightly
> bound-up neoliberalism and the general policies you so rightly abhor are
> with pop and rock music?
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> > Iraq was invaded, both from the US and UK sides, at least partially in
> the name of rock'n'roll (Blair has never been "secret" about liking the
> early 70s stuff that invented all those cock-rock metal cliches - his hero
> in rock terms is Paul Rodgers, for fuck's sake!) and most of the old
> Foreign Office and Tory-wet grandees - the sort of people who *do*
> unequivocally prefer classical music - opposed the invasion. You seem to
> equate classical music with the most right-wing policies imaginable, but
> Labour or Tory governments in the last 15 years led by people who preferred
> classical music would almost certainly have brought about far greater
> economic equality, allowed far less tax evasion and deregulated banking,
> and been far more socialist or, on the Tory side, at least accepting of
> socialism. It's amazing how little so many people seem to know about modern
> British history.
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> > Even when they were new, Floyd and the later Beatles were both loved by
> huge numbers of people who didn't "get" them and just liked the idea of
> something new that their parents didn't get. In fact, they were so huge
> that that was probably always the bulk of their audience. Same as young
> kids in the shires today, who'll probably grow up to be petty-minded Tory
> councillors, love the instant pop thrill of Wiley's "Heatwave" and "Can You
> Hear Me?" without understanding their full meaning as an oppressed class
> taking a share of mass consciousness and saying "nothing's too good for us".
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> > Of course I know *why* people like you refuse to accept that the likes
> of Blair and Cameron can like pop and rock music unironically and
> unambiguously - you don't want to admit that you might have anything in
> common with the ruling class, and that you yourself are almost certainly
> prejudiced against the one form of music our rulers *are* still viciously
> prejudiced against. Far better to pretend. Happily, as a Scrufizzer and
> Lady Leshurr fan, that's not a problem for me. *Let* the bastards like
> mainstream rock music; it's as irrelevant to me as Strauss waltzes (to
> whose context in the Heath era Ian Penman recently, with rare perspective,
> compared what 6Music is under Cameron).
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> > Robin Carmody
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> > "Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they
> don't want to hear."
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