A new England

[lorcan58]

Ah, that's especially interesting because I was just listening to the series recently completed on 6Music and when they're talking about Scarborough Fair Paul Simon name-checked Martin Carthy as being the originator of the version used by Simon & Garfunkel.

I wonder if Martin Carthy said it for comic effect?

Now that I think about it, Carthy did a stunning cover of the Bee Gee's "New York Mining Disaster 1941" which turned what was (for me) a very ordinary pop song into a gritty folk classic, a song finally finding its true spiritual home.

--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, John Gray <jt.gray@...> wrote:
>
> I didn't know that! Very ironic.  I once saw Martin Carthy in a local folk club, when he played 'Scarborough Fair".  He talked about Bob Dylan using it for 'Girl From The North Country', and how Dylan had always acknowledged the debt. Then as he started the song, he added 'which is more than Paul Simon ever did'.
> 
> JG
> On 20 May 2012, at 12:25, lorcan58 wrote:
> 
> > That's ironic considering Paul Simon was successfully sued over "El Condor Pasa".
> > 
> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, John Gray <jt.gray@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I remember hearing him explain once how he thought they were great opening lines for a song, and didn't think anyone would mind if he used them - then he got a letter from Paul Simon's lawyers! He didn't say how things were resolved though.
> > > 
> > > john Gray
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 19 May 2012, at 22:32, lorcan58 wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm sure most of you already know this but I never realised that Billy Bragg's iconic opening lines:
> > > > 
> > > > I was 21 years when I wrote this song
> > > > 22 now but I won't be for long
> > > > 
> > > > were actually lifted from a 1967 Simon & Garfunkel song "The Leaves That Are Green". You can listen to the original here:
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTMPyLP5YM
> > > > 
> > > > Mind you, I always wondered how he aged a year between the first and second lines...
> > > > 
> > > > Lorcan
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>