From haze.harrison@... Fri Jun 1 00:31:22 2012 From: haze.harrison@... (haze_harrison) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:31:22 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury 1995 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I haven't found anywhere with a full list of acts to try and narrow it down. I do have lots of the Channel 4 coverage so maybe I'll get a clue there... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > Well , I lost that one cos they never played that year!, so back to searching! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > > > Well my money's on Tinariwen, but now I have to know because it is a great set > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Festival_line-ups#Jazzworld_stage_2 > > > > Bill > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > > > > > So, any ideas about the African band? > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > > > > > > > Here are the rest of my recordings of Radio 1 at Glasto 1995 > > > > > > > > mp3 Black > > > > Crowes > > > > mp3 Dodgy > > > > mp3 Lightning > > > > Seeds > > > > mp3 Oasis > > > > mp3 Sinead > > > > O'Connor > > > > mp3 Soul > > > > Asylum > > > > mp3 Everything > > > > But The Girl > > > > mp3 Indigo > > > > Girls > > > > mp3 Jamiroquai > > > > mp3 Jeff > > > > Buckley > > > > mp3 Live > > > > mp3 PJ Harvey > > > > mp3 Sharon > > > > Shannon > > > > mp3 Page And > > > > Plant > > > > mp3 The Cure > > > > > > > > and here is one that I can't identify, an African (maybe Senegal) band > > > > mp3 unknown > > > > band > > > > > > > > Enjoy, Haze > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ooopps, the subject should of course say Glastonbury 1995 > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" haze.harrison@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Two parts of John's show from 24th June 1995 > > > > > > > > > > > > mp3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > \ > > > > > > stonbury.mp3> Dread Zone set with a bit of JP at the end > > > > > > > > > > > > mp3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > \ > > > > > > stonbury.mp3> Zion Train set with a bit of JP at both ends. This > > > > is > > > > > > shorter than the file previously shared but I think very slightly > > > > better > > > > > > quality. I've uploaded a small comparison file (old-new) of the > > > > intro to > > > > > > Zion Train HERE > > > > > > > > > > so you can make an informed download decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy, Haze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mkwald99@... Fri Jun 1 09:12:12 2012 From: mkwald99@... (mkwald99) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:12:12 -0000 Subject: OT : Re-ups of my "MicInFrontOfTheTele" recordings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you very, very much! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > I've been asked by a couple of people for fresh links so here they > are..... > > mp3 > BBC2 'In Concert' Maria Muldaur 1976-01-17 > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1975-05-23 PFM and Alan Hull > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1975-11-25 Dr Hook special > mp3 > OGWT 1976-01-01 Best of 1975 > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1976-04-13 Buffy Sainte-Marie > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1976-04-20 Ozark Mountain Daredevils special > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1976-04-27 Rick Wakeman special > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1976-05-11 Jimi Hendrix on Lulu show > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1976-01-12 Janis Ian special > mp3 > tracklist > OGWT > 1979-09-18 Nils Lofgren special > mp3 tracklist > OGWT > 1979-09-09 Rickie Lee Jones special > > Enjoy, Haze > From haze.harrison@... Fri Jun 1 12:37:58 2012 From: haze.harrison@... (haze_harrison) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:37:58 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury 1995 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've just fished out the VHS tapes and from my scribbled notes on the cover they didn't show anything Africany. The search continues..... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > I haven't found anywhere with a full list of acts to try and narrow it down. I do have lots of the Channel 4 coverage so maybe I'll get a clue there... > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > > > Well , I lost that one cos they never played that year!, so back to searching! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > > > > > Well my money's on Tinariwen, but now I have to know because it is a great set > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Festival_line-ups#Jazzworld_stage_2 > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > > > > > > > So, any ideas about the African band? > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Here are the rest of my recordings of Radio 1 at Glasto 1995 > > > > > > > > > > mp3 Black > > > > > Crowes > > > > > mp3 Dodgy > > > > > mp3 Lightning > > > > > Seeds > > > > > mp3 Oasis > > > > > mp3 Sinead > > > > > O'Connor > > > > > mp3 Soul > > > > > Asylum > > > > > mp3 Everything > > > > > But The Girl > > > > > mp3 Indigo > > > > > Girls > > > > > mp3 Jamiroquai > > > > > mp3 Jeff > > > > > Buckley > > > > > mp3 Live > > > > > mp3 PJ Harvey > > > > > mp3 Sharon > > > > > Shannon > > > > > mp3 Page And > > > > > Plant > > > > > mp3 The Cure > > > > > > > > > > and here is one that I can't identify, an African (maybe Senegal) band > > > > > mp3 unknown > > > > > band > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy, Haze > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ooopps, the subject should of course say Glastonbury 1995 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "haze_harrison" haze.harrison@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two parts of John's show from 24th June 1995 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mp3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \ > > > > > > > stonbury.mp3> Dread Zone set with a bit of JP at the end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mp3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \ > > > > > > > stonbury.mp3> Zion Train set with a bit of JP at both ends. This > > > > > is > > > > > > > shorter than the file previously shared but I think very slightly > > > > > better > > > > > > > quality. I've uploaded a small comparison file (old-new) of the > > > > > intro to > > > > > > > Zion Train HERE > > > > > > > > > > > > so you can make an informed download decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy, Haze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From koogy@... Fri Jun 1 12:38:04 2012 From: koogy@... (koogy@...) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:38:04 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Glastonbury 1995 - Diblo Dibala In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1ea81c443511236018826e23ca1beee9.squirrel@...> that's diblo on guitar (he gets a shout out in a couple of tracks and is pretty recognisable anyway) am guessing it's this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1990s/1995/Jun24diblodibala/ great though, thanks. andy >> > > > Here are the rest of my recordings of Radio 1 at Glasto 1995 >> > > > and here is one that I can't identify, an African (maybe Senegal) >> band >> > > > mp3 >> unknown >> > > > band >> > > > >> > > > Enjoy, Haze From grafpoo@... Fri Jun 1 13:42:44 2012 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:42:44 -0400 Subject: [peel] Re: Glastonbury 1995 - Diblo Dibala In-Reply-To: <1ea81c443511236018826e23ca1beee9.squirrel@...> References: <1ea81c443511236018826e23ca1beee9.squirrel@...> Message-ID: that Matchacha show was the best thing i ever saw at Glastonbury - i'll have to grab this recording when i get home sunday. thanks! john (the lurker) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:38 AM, wrote: > ** > > > > that's diblo on guitar (he gets a shout out in a couple of tracks and is > pretty recognisable anyway) > > am guessing it's this: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1990s/1995/Jun24diblodibala/ > > great though, thanks. > > andy > > >> > > > Here are the rest of my recordings of Radio 1 at Glasto 1995 > >> > > > and here is one that I can't identify, an African (maybe Senegal) > >> band > >> > > > mp3 > >> unknown > >> > > > band > >> > > > > >> > > > Enjoy, Haze > > > From unity.gain@... Fri Jun 1 14:26:40 2012 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:26:40 -0000 Subject: Johnny Clarke on 6Music Message-ID: Anyone get these down? I know the last one is still up there for a couple of days, but i somehow seem to have missed the rest, Cheers Roger From haze.harrison@... Fri Jun 1 18:02:40 2012 From: haze.harrison@... (haze_harrison) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:02:40 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury 1995 - Diblo Dibala In-Reply-To: <1ea81c443511236018826e23ca1beee9.squirrel@...> Message-ID: Top man! Looking back at my notes on the cover it makes sense that this set (along with Sharon Shannon) would be part of Peely's show. Although I edited these it would be unlikely that I changed the order, so the it would be Zion Train, Diblo Dibala, Sharon Shannon and Dread Zone. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, koogy@... wrote: > > > that's diblo on guitar (he gets a shout out in a couple of tracks and is > pretty recognisable anyway) > > am guessing it's this: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1990s/1995/Jun24diblodibala/ > > great though, thanks. > > andy > > >> > > > Here are the rest of my recordings of Radio 1 at Glasto 1995 > >> > > > and here is one that I can't identify, an African (maybe Senegal) > >> band > >> > > > mp3 > >> unknown > >> > > > band > >> > > > > >> > > > Enjoy, Haze > From eddie.duffy@... Sat Jun 2 15:35:13 2012 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:35:13 +0100 Subject: Johnny Clarke on 6Music Message-ID: I grabbed all four of these, and can put them up if you like. Bear with me though, as I'm in the process of rebuilding my online life after a frazzled laptop. It's worth checking the iPlayer for JCC at the moment, as the Beeb's been all over him lately. Eddie. From thebarguest@... Sat Jun 2 23:16:24 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:16:24 -0000 Subject: Johnny Clarke on 6Music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just watched the BBC6 docu on JCC - brilliant. His radio shows are a mixed bag for me - some great new-wave / classics but loads of soul music as well ... each to their own I suppose .. His 2 late 70's albums with (the brilliant) Martin Hannett musical production are essential ! In the docu, the "famous" faces were saying that 'Beazley Street' was an analysis of "Thatcher's Britain" (even though the song came out in 1978, before Thatch) - places like that have always been with us, good times and bad ('the poor are always with us') ; yet more media lies !! Nice to see Steve Coogan praising JCC (with his new Manc accent) !! Saw JJC supporting The (mighty) Fall in L'pool a few years ago and he was (word-unknown : greater than great/brilliant) esp. the stand-up comedy routine, everyone was guffawing. BBC - give him a series, for f*ck sake !!!! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Eddie Duffy wrote: > > I grabbed all four of these, and can put them up if you like. Bear with me > though, as I'm in the process of rebuilding my online life after a frazzled > laptop. > > It's worth checking the iPlayer for JCC at the moment, as the Beeb's been > all over him lately. > > Eddie. > From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Jun 4 04:33:59 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:33:59 -0000 Subject: Unpunctuated, uncaring grunge LP (9) Message-ID: Hi folks A return to the simple-minded crossword clue heralds a clutch of exciting new files. 1) 20 March 2000 (BFBS) Carsten missed the 13 March show, but that's OK, since this is a repeat of it. Minidisc problems and the "Jimmy Jimmy Men." 2) Peel 037 (BFBS) , Peel 038 (BFBS) The selection of tracks for these compilations has always tended to the indie, but 038 features a truly unusual one by David Thomas. It's July-August 1986: John also tells us about attending the final Wham! gig and unintentionally reveals why In Session Tonight became such a necessary tome. 3) 10 September 1993 (Sessions: Orbital, Bratmobile) Completely new to the catalogue, and all three hours in glorious FM mono. Many thanks to all the tapers. Have a great Jubilee week.Steve (TK) From ford.alan@... Mon Jun 4 09:40:32 2012 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:40:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Unpunctuated, uncaring grunge LP (9) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simple-minded? Nevermind. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:33 AM, so_it_goes_2512 wrote: > ** > > > Hi folks > > A return to the simple-minded crossword clue heralds a clutch of exciting > new files. > > 1) 20 March 2000 (BFBS) > > > Carsten missed the 13 March show, but that's OK, since this is a repeat of > it. Minidisc problems and the "Jimmy Jimmy Men." > > 2) Peel 037 (BFBS) , Peel > 038 (BFBS) > > The selection of tracks for these compilations has always tended to the > indie, but 038 features a truly unusual one by David Thomas. It's > July-August 1986: John also tells us about attending the final Wham! gig > and unintentionally reveals why In Session Tonight became such a necessary > tome. > > 3) 10 September 1993 > (Sessions: Orbital, Bratmobile) > > Completely new to the catalogue, and all three hours in glorious FM mono. > > Many thanks to all the tapers. Have a great Jubilee week. > Steve (TK) > > > > > From ian@... Mon Jun 4 12:56:58 2012 From: ian@... (Ian Stuart) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:56:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Glastonbury 1995 - Diblo Dibala In-Reply-To: <1ea81c443511236018826e23ca1beee9.squirrel@...> References: <1ea81c443511236018826e23ca1beee9.squirrel@...> Message-ID: <4FCC947A.30809@...> Sure is the mighty Diblo and thanks to Haze for sharing this - there are 2 sessions on the Mooo also http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Diblo_Dibala best wishes to all ian On 01/06/2012 11:38, koogy@... wrote: > > > that's diblo on guitar (he gets a shout out in a couple of tracks and is > pretty recognisable anyway) > > am guessing it's this: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1990s/1995/Jun24diblodibala/ > > great though, thanks. > > andy > > >> > > > Here are the rest of my recordings of Radio 1 at Glasto 1995 > >> > > > and here is one that I can't identify, an African (maybe Senegal) > >> band > >> > > > mp3 > >> unknown > >> > > > band > >> > > > > >> > > > Enjoy, Haze > > From lollygagger@... Mon Jun 4 16:56:24 2012 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:56:24 +0100 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a bit slow to pick up on these things. What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. Gordon From parkermike81@... Tue Jun 5 00:01:33 2012 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:01:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1338847293.82827.YahooMailNeo@...> I agree some of my best of peel tapes which i get patted on the back for on a regular basis for, ughhh cough splutter do have some great fm on them but i wouldn`t be that bothered if peels son was broadcast on 2krbs frankly as i`m afraid theres no atmosphere with his style in the way his dad would tell a few tales or two and since adam and his bird watching dissapeared the show is boring or is it his style i find irritating?, i`ll give him full marks for his dedication to the band flats though and without sounding like a complete pessimist thanks to the uploader ''b'' i think for putting them up each week. ________________________________ From: lollygagger To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 4 June 2012, 15:56 Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM   Hi All   I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio   When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a bit slow to pick up on these things.   What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe.   Gordon From stuartb@... Tue Jun 5 02:52:47 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 01:52:47 +0100 Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97B556AD7D9B488A91802E6F4F936969@Stuartnew> There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style uncompressed (dynamic range wise) The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lollygagger Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM Hi All I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a bit slow to pick up on these things. What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. Gordon From paul@... Tue Jun 5 19:11:26 2012 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:11:26 +0100 Subject: TheSpace - Peel Archive - F In-Reply-To: <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> Message-ID: Here is the list for letter F Fairport Convention featured on TheSpace this time - and too many FAs... (e.g. Andy Fairweather-Low) to reach The Fall I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_F There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links Video F001 12916 F.A.K. Gruss Los F002 21993 F.U.S. The Origin Of The Straw Dogs F003 22767 F.U.S.E. Dimensional Intrusion F004 10076 F-Word Like it or Not F005 3812 Fabien Hold that Tiger F006 23353 Fabric Body of Water http://open.spotify.com/album/5xqVM4hTnZilhaPsLKdGdF F007 20268 The Fabulous Dirt Sisters Five Strong Swimmers F008 9210 Fabulous Poodles Fabulous poodles F009 10288 Fabulous Poodles Unsuitable F010 5262 The Fabulous Rhinestones Freewheelin F011 5964 The Fabulous Rhinestones The Fabulous Rhinestones F012 11237 The Fabulous Thunderbirds The Fabulous Thunderbirds http://open.spotify.com/album/0eukg8bhyBLRYCPoDpPBgs F013 11415 The Fabulous Thunderbirds What's the Word http://open.spotify.com/album/2OZq6JmBN0B5gUnw8bG4nD F014 12241 The Fabulous Thunderbirds Butt Rockin' http://open.spotify.com/album/6RSHcScSrS0TfYjTt34YBO F015 13785 The Fabulous Thunderbirds T-Bird Rhythm F016 4781 Faces Ooh La La http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/ooh-la-la/id302073732 F017 5496 Rod Stewart / Faces Coast to Coast / Overture and beginners F018 2170 Faces First Step http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/first-step/id188061 F019 2818 The Faces Faces Long Player http://open.spotify.com/album/0MDp8mJ7hKXUn5qnEWqTlN F020 3461 Faces A Nod's a good as a wink... http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/nod-is-as-good-as-wink...to/id194983 F021 3963 Faces Plynth F022 12211 Faction Faction F023 14841 The Faction No Hidden Messages http://open.spotify.com/album/1cCnt7C2ZTyasYpJZ5eCKb F024 12841 Facrix Scheintot F025 18483 Fadela Etoile Du Rai F026 11915 Fad Gadget Fireside Favourites http://open.spotify.com/album/5TTdBX0V2T9vMqiNRslpZy F027 12886 Fad Gadget Incontinent http://open.spotify.com/album/4zxkD6Gy3DQWfpZqMtmjxO F028 14967 Fad Gadget Gag http://open.spotify.com/album/1Fb7MhUTQM5TpPv7yXsVvc F029 20128 Faff-Bey Back from the Grave F030 21840 Faff-Bey Doesn't Feel Like Laughing F031 0495 John Fahey Blind Joe Death http://open.spotify.com/album/6iyglDlpSKtyr43bCqHOum F032 0497 John Fahey Dance of Death and other Plantation Favourites http://open.spotify.com/album/3ki0X5jDIEnzKGfRZjI4dN F033 0498 John Fahey “The Great San Bernardino Birthday Party and other Excursions http://open.spotify.com/album/52sBItsi90B8KdXCatteIB F034 499 John Fahey The transfiguration of Blind Jo Death http://open.spotify.com/album/0LpBwAyjWS8LSjKIrAetxP F035 0500 John Fahey Day Have Gone By http://open.spotify.com/album/2S0f5PwFQ8yAKeNlvi50T1 F036 0501 John Fahey Requia http://open.spotify.com/album/6zKvWXfokpTtyCL2ipOfck F037 0502 John Fahey The Yellow Princess http://open.spotify.com/album/3ocG00JU14lcxPPIQQZbyN F038 0503 John Fahey The new Possibility http://open.spotify.com/album/4BbeVKdP3gzka4JppsmL1Y F039 2566 John Fahey The Voice of the Turtle http://open.spotify.com/album/1lcZymuVXdpjdd4ChNJYjD F040 3706 John Fahey America http://open.spotify.com/album/741G8g6T8aFg8YAFkrjjzo F041 4191 John Fahey Of Rivers and Religion http://open.spotify.com/album/75noTxB90SfjA0oBlNNFFQ F042 5097 John Fahey & His Orchestra After the Ball http://open.spotify.com/album/6CjzJmlqMbdDu34DiCWIhI F043 5098 John Fahey Fare Forward Voyagers (Soldiers Choice) F044 7624 John Fahey Old-Fashioned Love http://open.spotify.com/album/2j5hEU1twDSVF509cxnsYd F045 8642 John Fahey Christmas with John Fahey Vol.II F046 9409 John Fahey The Best Of John Fahey http://open.spotify.com/album/2d8ZlEDq85RqCT7iTXJsdt F047 12089 John Fahey Yes! Jesus Loves Me F048 14067 John Fahey Live in Tasmania http://open.spotify.com/album/3myecdRLIdI35FBcL81Dlg F049 15570 John Fahey Let Go http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/let-go/id2717889 F050 16909 John Fahey Rain Forests, Oceans and Other Themes http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/rain-forests-oceans-other/id2718186 F051 17435 John Fahey Railroad 1 F052 18143 John Fahey Visits Washington D.C. F053 18144 John Fahey Popular Songs of Christmas & New Year's F054 18958 John Fahey I Remember Blind Joe Death http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/i-remember-blind-joe-death/id2765781 F055 19193 John Fahey Yes! Jesus Loves Me F056 19927 Jad Fair & Kramer Roll Out the Barrell http://open.spotify.com/album/3ggMFWdFkqVxOgA5Df0AAg F057 19992 Jad Fair Great Expectations 1 & 2 F058 22316 Jad Fair I Like it when you Smile F059 24336 Jad Fair & Phono-Comb Monsters, Lullabies & The Occasional Flying Saucer http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/monsters-lullabies...-occasional/id330502783 F060 25380 Jad Fair & Yo La Tengo Strange but True F061 7138 Yvonne Fair The Bitch is Black http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/the-bitch-is-black/id315836348 F062 2337 Fairfield Parlour From Home to Home http://open.spotify.com/album/3hGOB33MfY6o9efuuCRKF8 F063 19569 Fairground Attraction The Fist of a Million Kisses http://open.spotify.com/album/6va9WpXLiBCPS86QWKgOFi F064 22385 Andy Fairley System Vertigo F065 26531 Fairmount Paper Stars http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/paper-stars/id501416814 F066 0504 Fairport Convention Fairport Convention http://open.spotify.com/album/0BrLK2B3rgqrM6F2mTqc0U http://thespace.org/items/e000080a/player F067 0505 Fairport Convention What we did on our Holidays http://open.spotify.com/album/39BUQxMN2WPLvdivLIyrk5 F068 0506 Fairport Convention Unhalfbricking http://open.spotify.com/album/7isYifHXAT7wbuxbJziBG3 F069 1987 Fairport Convention Leige and Lief http://open.spotify.com/album/0nr3H081blLhLqRL6n5cND F070 2367 Fairport Convention Full House http://open.spotify.com/album/21YRHV9U4fMWR7qlJyvJyl F071 3080 Fairport Convention Angel Delight http://open.spotify.com/album/3GvAXlhHxkYWnt4lFPl1cA F072 3449 Fairport Convention Babbacombe' Lee http://open.spotify.com/album/1cHugCbmKJ5cVbPgey8wEF F073 4448 Fairport Convention The History of... 1 http://open.spotify.com/album/7b4EXX4UNdAKYSYHqWeggA F074 4449 Fairport Convention The History of... 2 http://open.spotify.com/album/7b4EXX4UNdAKYSYHqWeggA F075 4636 Fairport Convention Rosie http://open.spotify.com/album/7uv6EWrhDByAdetovffqbq F076 5238 Fairport Convention Nine http://open.spotify.com/album/2Nw7JyU4vrnpBQmwqMZ8Cl F077 6075 Fairport Convention Live http://open.spotify.com/album/3ViT12Yd2v96E1oFH2Ajae F078 7100 Fairport Convention Rising for the Moon http://open.spotify.com/album/5SR8MKr6w2YpkcpwtdWmza F079 7446 Fairport Convention Tour Sampler F080 8210 Fairport Convention Fairport Chronicles #1 F081 8211 Fairport Convention Fairport Chronicles #2 F082 8652 Fairport Convention At The L.A. Troubador http://open.spotify.com/album/0eVNPEhiB792iz1X0ZmJU6 F083 8048 Fairport Convention Gottle O' Geer http://open.spotify.com/album/2XzCf3wqTNoLuYjO8EPRTF F084 9891 Fairport Convention Tipplers Tales http://open.spotify.com/album/3fzCbLYy2DOqQRMVK4s5HN F085 11194 Fairport Convention Farewell, Farewell F086 16522 Fairport Convention Gladys' Leap F087 17672 Fairport Convention House Full http://open.spotify.com/album/0eVNPEhiB792iz1X0ZmJU6 F088 17681 Fairport Convention Expletive Delighted! http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/expletive-delighted/id2765875 F089 18862 Fairport Convention Heyday F090 7450 Fair Weather Beginning from an End http://open.spotify.com/album/0tt2QwreBDc50g80ZpzpbH F091 6188 Andy Fairweather-Low Spider Jiving F092 7236 Andy Fairweather-Low La Booga Rooga F093 8471 Andy Fairweather-Low Be-Bop 'N' Hoila F094 11578 Andy Fairweather-Low Mega-Shebang F095 4883 Adam Faith On the Move F096 6207 Adam Faith I Survive F097 9304 George Faith To Be A Lover F098 22446 Th' Faith healers Lido http://open.spotify.com/album/4JqtfRwRXvEQXCRTl8DljK F099 22887 Th' Faith Healers Imaginary Friend http://open.spotify.com/album/3uMViSNLNZa9GesPJtPeTk F100 7376 Faith, Hope & Charity Faith, Hope & Charity From saipanda@... Tue Jun 5 20:25:37 2012 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:25:37 -0000 Subject: TheSpace - Peel Archive - F In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks to Paul for continuing to post each letter as the weeks go by, and also now adding them to the wiki too. Cheers, Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Webster wrote: > > Here is the list for letter F > > Fairport Convention featured on TheSpace this time - and too many FAs... (e.g. Andy Fairweather-Low) to reach The Fall > > I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are > filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) > Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those > that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_F > > There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. > > > ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links Video > F001 12916 F.A.K. Gruss Los > F002 21993 F.U.S. The Origin Of The Straw Dogs > F003 22767 F.U.S.E. Dimensional Intrusion > F004 10076 F-Word Like it or Not > F005 3812 Fabien Hold that Tiger > F006 23353 Fabric Body of Water http://open.spotify.com/album/5xqVM4hTnZilhaPsLKdGdF > F007 20268 The Fabulous Dirt Sisters Five Strong Swimmers > F008 9210 Fabulous Poodles Fabulous poodles > F009 10288 Fabulous Poodles Unsuitable > F010 5262 The Fabulous Rhinestones Freewheelin > F011 5964 The Fabulous Rhinestones The Fabulous Rhinestones > F012 11237 The Fabulous Thunderbirds The Fabulous Thunderbirds > http://open.spotify.com/album/0eukg8bhyBLRYCPoDpPBgs > F013 11415 The Fabulous Thunderbirds What's the Word http://open.spotify.com/album/2OZq6JmBN0B5gUnw8bG4nD > F014 12241 The Fabulous Thunderbirds Butt Rockin' http://open.spotify.com/album/6RSHcScSrS0TfYjTt34YBO > F015 13785 The Fabulous Thunderbirds T-Bird Rhythm > F016 4781 Faces Ooh La La http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/ooh-la-la/id302073732 > F017 5496 Rod Stewart / Faces Coast to Coast / Overture and beginners > F018 2170 Faces First Step http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/first-step/id188061 > F019 2818 The Faces Faces Long Player http://open.spotify.com/album/0MDp8mJ7hKXUn5qnEWqTlN > F020 3461 Faces A Nod's a good as a wink... > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/nod-is-as-good-as-wink...to/id194983 > F021 3963 Faces Plynth > F022 12211 Faction Faction > F023 14841 The Faction No Hidden Messages http://open.spotify.com/album/1cCnt7C2ZTyasYpJZ5eCKb > F024 12841 Facrix Scheintot > F025 18483 Fadela Etoile Du Rai > F026 11915 Fad Gadget Fireside Favourites http://open.spotify.com/album/5TTdBX0V2T9vMqiNRslpZy > F027 12886 Fad Gadget Incontinent http://open.spotify.com/album/4zxkD6Gy3DQWfpZqMtmjxO > F028 14967 Fad Gadget Gag http://open.spotify.com/album/1Fb7MhUTQM5TpPv7yXsVvc > F029 20128 Faff-Bey Back from the Grave > F030 21840 Faff-Bey Doesn't Feel Like Laughing > F031 0495 John Fahey Blind Joe Death http://open.spotify.com/album/6iyglDlpSKtyr43bCqHOum > F032 0497 John Fahey Dance of Death and other Plantation Favourites > http://open.spotify.com/album/3ki0X5jDIEnzKGfRZjI4dN > F033 0498 John Fahey “The Great San Bernardino Birthday Party and other Excursions > http://open.spotify.com/album/52sBItsi90B8KdXCatteIB > F034 499 John Fahey The transfiguration of Blind Jo Death > http://open.spotify.com/album/0LpBwAyjWS8LSjKIrAetxP > F035 0500 John Fahey Day Have Gone By http://open.spotify.com/album/2S0f5PwFQ8yAKeNlvi50T1 > F036 0501 John Fahey Requia http://open.spotify.com/album/6zKvWXfokpTtyCL2ipOfck > F037 0502 John Fahey The Yellow Princess http://open.spotify.com/album/3ocG00JU14lcxPPIQQZbyN > F038 0503 John Fahey The new Possibility http://open.spotify.com/album/4BbeVKdP3gzka4JppsmL1Y > F039 2566 John Fahey The Voice of the Turtle http://open.spotify.com/album/1lcZymuVXdpjdd4ChNJYjD > F040 3706 John Fahey America http://open.spotify.com/album/741G8g6T8aFg8YAFkrjjzo > F041 4191 John Fahey Of Rivers and Religion http://open.spotify.com/album/75noTxB90SfjA0oBlNNFFQ > F042 5097 John Fahey & His Orchestra After the Ball http://open.spotify.com/album/6CjzJmlqMbdDu34DiCWIhI > F043 5098 John Fahey Fare Forward Voyagers (Soldiers Choice) > F044 7624 John Fahey Old-Fashioned Love http://open.spotify.com/album/2j5hEU1twDSVF509cxnsYd > F045 8642 John Fahey Christmas with John Fahey Vol.II > F046 9409 John Fahey The Best Of John Fahey http://open.spotify.com/album/2d8ZlEDq85RqCT7iTXJsdt > F047 12089 John Fahey Yes! Jesus Loves Me > F048 14067 John Fahey Live in Tasmania http://open.spotify.com/album/3myecdRLIdI35FBcL81Dlg > F049 15570 John Fahey Let Go http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/let-go/id2717889 > F050 16909 John Fahey Rain Forests, Oceans and Other Themes > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/rain-forests-oceans-other/id2718186 > F051 17435 John Fahey Railroad 1 > F052 18143 John Fahey Visits Washington D.C. > F053 18144 John Fahey Popular Songs of Christmas & New Year's > F054 18958 John Fahey I Remember Blind Joe Death > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/i-remember-blind-joe-death/id2765781 > F055 19193 John Fahey Yes! Jesus Loves Me > F056 19927 Jad Fair & Kramer Roll Out the Barrell http://open.spotify.com/album/3ggMFWdFkqVxOgA5Df0AAg > F057 19992 Jad Fair Great Expectations 1 & 2 > F058 22316 Jad Fair I Like it when you Smile > F059 24336 Jad Fair & Phono-Comb Monsters, Lullabies & The Occasional Flying Saucer > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/monsters-lullabies...-occasional/id330502783 > F060 25380 Jad Fair & Yo La Tengo Strange but True > F061 7138 Yvonne Fair The Bitch is Black http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/the-bitch-is-black/id315836348 > F062 2337 Fairfield Parlour From Home to Home http://open.spotify.com/album/3hGOB33MfY6o9efuuCRKF8 > F063 19569 Fairground Attraction The Fist of a Million Kisses > http://open.spotify.com/album/6va9WpXLiBCPS86QWKgOFi > F064 22385 Andy Fairley System Vertigo > F065 26531 Fairmount Paper Stars http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/paper-stars/id501416814 > F066 0504 Fairport Convention Fairport Convention http://open.spotify.com/album/0BrLK2B3rgqrM6F2mTqc0U > http://thespace.org/items/e000080a/player > F067 0505 Fairport Convention What we did on our Holidays http://open.spotify.com/album/39BUQxMN2WPLvdivLIyrk5 > F068 0506 Fairport Convention Unhalfbricking http://open.spotify.com/album/7isYifHXAT7wbuxbJziBG3 > F069 1987 Fairport Convention Leige and Lief http://open.spotify.com/album/0nr3H081blLhLqRL6n5cND > F070 2367 Fairport Convention Full House http://open.spotify.com/album/21YRHV9U4fMWR7qlJyvJyl > F071 3080 Fairport Convention Angel Delight http://open.spotify.com/album/3GvAXlhHxkYWnt4lFPl1cA > F072 3449 Fairport Convention Babbacombe' Lee http://open.spotify.com/album/1cHugCbmKJ5cVbPgey8wEF > F073 4448 Fairport Convention The History of... 1 http://open.spotify.com/album/7b4EXX4UNdAKYSYHqWeggA > F074 4449 Fairport Convention The History of... 2 http://open.spotify.com/album/7b4EXX4UNdAKYSYHqWeggA > F075 4636 Fairport Convention Rosie http://open.spotify.com/album/7uv6EWrhDByAdetovffqbq > F076 5238 Fairport Convention Nine http://open.spotify.com/album/2Nw7JyU4vrnpBQmwqMZ8Cl > F077 6075 Fairport Convention Live http://open.spotify.com/album/3ViT12Yd2v96E1oFH2Ajae > F078 7100 Fairport Convention Rising for the Moon http://open.spotify.com/album/5SR8MKr6w2YpkcpwtdWmza > F079 7446 Fairport Convention Tour Sampler > F080 8210 Fairport Convention Fairport Chronicles #1 > F081 8211 Fairport Convention Fairport Chronicles #2 > F082 8652 Fairport Convention At The L.A. Troubador http://open.spotify.com/album/0eVNPEhiB792iz1X0ZmJU6 > F083 8048 Fairport Convention Gottle O' Geer http://open.spotify.com/album/2XzCf3wqTNoLuYjO8EPRTF > F084 9891 Fairport Convention Tipplers Tales http://open.spotify.com/album/3fzCbLYy2DOqQRMVK4s5HN > F085 11194 Fairport Convention Farewell, Farewell > F086 16522 Fairport Convention Gladys' Leap > F087 17672 Fairport Convention House Full http://open.spotify.com/album/0eVNPEhiB792iz1X0ZmJU6 > F088 17681 Fairport Convention Expletive Delighted! > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/expletive-delighted/id2765875 > F089 18862 Fairport Convention Heyday > F090 7450 Fair Weather Beginning from an End http://open.spotify.com/album/0tt2QwreBDc50g80ZpzpbH > F091 6188 Andy Fairweather-Low Spider Jiving > F092 7236 Andy Fairweather-Low La Booga Rooga > F093 8471 Andy Fairweather-Low Be-Bop 'N' Hoila > F094 11578 Andy Fairweather-Low Mega-Shebang > F095 4883 Adam Faith On the Move > F096 6207 Adam Faith I Survive > F097 9304 George Faith To Be A Lover > F098 22446 Th' Faith healers Lido http://open.spotify.com/album/4JqtfRwRXvEQXCRTl8DljK > F099 22887 Th' Faith Healers Imaginary Friend http://open.spotify.com/album/3uMViSNLNZa9GesPJtPeTk > F100 7376 Faith, Hope & Charity Faith, Hope & Charity > From stuartb@... Wed Jun 6 02:10:54 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:10:54 -0000 Subject: And more L's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 and L226 75 minutes of the previously unavailable 06 November 1992 . L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 and L227b had 46 minutes of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 . L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 October 1992 and L228b is an AK show. L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK show. Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 . (Not 100% sure of the order of the segments but I think I have it right). OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and L232a. > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved of, > Cheers > Roger > From thebarguest@... Wed Jun 6 18:03:52 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:03:52 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: <97B556AD7D9B488A91802E6F4F936969@Stuartnew> Message-ID: The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > Stuart > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > lollygagger > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > Hi All > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > Gordon > From lollygagger@... Wed Jun 6 18:42:06 2012 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:42:06 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B3D41EC245047B3BA98B7E88F9DC30C@LAPTOP> Well from the replies either I have had exceptional FM reception (near CD quality) or the DAB box which I also use for tv just isn't up to the job. Over the last 10years I have bought DAB radio's from hifi shops believing that they would be better than FM but instead I was disappointed so returned them. From the replies internet shows like Dandelionradio (128kb) should also sound better than FM. well maybe its my broadband that's failing me. Hifi shops have told me that due to compression the quality compared to FM just isn't there. It would be great if DAB (with all of its compression) and broadband radio were better than FM but my ears tell me a different story but then my ears tell me that ogg is better than mp3 for compressing music and getting the best quality...but that's something else.... Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Humphrey To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:03 PM Subject: [peel] Re: DAB vs FM The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > Stuart > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@...m] On Behalf Of > lollygagger > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > Hi All > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > Gordon > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5050 - Release Date: 06/05/12 From lyrasbench@... Wed Jun 6 19:48:47 2012 From: lyrasbench@... (Tim) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:48:47 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The web version of 6music is 128k aac @44K1, satellite broadcasts are 160k @48K. I just looked at the waveform for both transmission types when doing some archiving of a session and it's virtually identical down to sample level. It's a very moot point as to whether this is more or less lossy than FM, both analogue and digital have a frequency cutoff at about 15kHz, where digital scores over analogue is that you don't tend to get noise introduced by interference, and obviously in most cases analogue FM has been recorded in the past onto analogue cassettes or tape, and even if direct to DAT or CD it's going via some sort of analogue subsystem which will introduce losses. This is the funny thing about analogue buffs - what they see as "warmth" in analogue formats is because their equipment introduces filtering (losses) at various stages, where digital signals have much less before they hit the analogue chain and so have more higher frequency components due to allowing very sharp edges. What really screws up all sorts of radio these days is overuse of compression and hard limiting to decrease dynamic range. Basically everything is turned up when quiet and limited when loud, and the result is very loud and harsh - this is a modern fashion aimed at making the broadcasts sound uniformly loud. If you look at the waveform for a radio show broadcast on 6music, you'll find it's pretty much at maximum amplitude all the way through, where something recorded in the 1980s has a lot of dynamics. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > lollygagger > > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > From thebarguest@... Wed Jun 6 22:51:59 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:51:59 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Using Get_iplayer to "obtain" BBC6 Music web output, the result is vbr aac which can go above 200 and below 100 (maybe the average is around 128/130); as far as I can make out, Get_iplayer doesn't do any transcoding for radio. Strangely, I can't find any official BBC info/data on the iPlayer bitrate output etc. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > The web version of 6music is 128k aac @44K1, satellite broadcasts are 160k @48K. I just looked at the waveform for both transmission types when doing some archiving of a session and it's virtually identical down to sample level. > > It's a very moot point as to whether this is more or less lossy than FM, both analogue and digital have a frequency cutoff at about 15kHz, where digital scores over analogue is that you don't tend to get noise introduced by interference, and obviously in most cases analogue FM has been recorded in the past onto analogue cassettes or tape, and even if direct to DAT or CD it's going via some sort of analogue subsystem which will introduce losses. This is the funny thing about analogue buffs - what they see as "warmth" in analogue formats is because their equipment introduces filtering (losses) at various stages, where digital signals have much less before they hit the analogue chain and so have more higher frequency components due to allowing very sharp edges. > > What really screws up all sorts of radio these days is overuse of compression and hard limiting to decrease dynamic range. Basically everything is turned up when quiet and limited when loud, and the result is very loud and harsh - this is a modern fashion aimed at making the broadcasts sound uniformly loud. If you look at the waveform for a radio show broadcast on 6music, you'll find it's pretty much at maximum amplitude all the way through, where something recorded in the 1980s has a lot of dynamics. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > > > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > > > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > > > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > > > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > > > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > > > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > > > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > > > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > > > > > > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > > > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > > > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > > lollygagger > > > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > > > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > > > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > > > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > > > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > > > > > > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > > > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > > > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > > > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > > > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > > > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > From lyrasbench@... Wed Jun 6 23:17:23 2012 From: lyrasbench@... (Tim) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:17:23 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just correcting my post, satellite is MP2 of course, which is inferior to AAC like for like. I think get_iplayer using the flashaac mode is the highest quality you can get. I use: get_iplayer --type=radio --raw --mode=flashaacstd1 ... (or --info to see what modes are available, sometimes there's a higher quality one) to get a nontranscoded stream dump. Normally with VBR as I understand it the stated bit rate is an average with one of the passes through the source used to calculate actual bit allocations around the nominal rate. Also different bitrates are served depending on location, UK listeners get more bits. This all assumes the AAC isn't MP2 transcoded, obviously. As various formats are available via the iplayer interface it's not clear whether they're all created from a waveform source or converted on the fly from a compressed format. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > Using Get_iplayer to "obtain" BBC6 Music web output, the result is vbr aac which can go above 200 and below 100 (maybe the average is around 128/130); as far as I can make out, Get_iplayer doesn't do any transcoding for radio. Strangely, I can't find any official BBC info/data on the iPlayer bitrate output etc. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > > > > The web version of 6music is 128k aac @44K1, satellite broadcasts are 160k @48K. I just looked at the waveform for both transmission types when doing some archiving of a session and it's virtually identical down to sample level. > > > > It's a very moot point as to whether this is more or less lossy than FM, both analogue and digital have a frequency cutoff at about 15kHz, where digital scores over analogue is that you don't tend to get noise introduced by interference, and obviously in most cases analogue FM has been recorded in the past onto analogue cassettes or tape, and even if direct to DAT or CD it's going via some sort of analogue subsystem which will introduce losses. This is the funny thing about analogue buffs - what they see as "warmth" in analogue formats is because their equipment introduces filtering (losses) at various stages, where digital signals have much less before they hit the analogue chain and so have more higher frequency components due to allowing very sharp edges. > > > > What really screws up all sorts of radio these days is overuse of compression and hard limiting to decrease dynamic range. Basically everything is turned up when quiet and limited when loud, and the result is very loud and harsh - this is a modern fashion aimed at making the broadcasts sound uniformly loud. If you look at the waveform for a radio show broadcast on 6music, you'll find it's pretty much at maximum amplitude all the way through, where something recorded in the 1980s has a lot of dynamics. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > > > > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > > > > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > > > > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > > > > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > > > > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > > > > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > > > > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > > > > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > > > > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > > > > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > > > lollygagger > > > > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > > > > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > > > > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > > > > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > > > > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > > > > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > > > > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > > > > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > > > > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > > > > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > From lyrasbench@... Wed Jun 6 23:23:33 2012 From: lyrasbench@... (Tim) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:23:33 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just out of interest, and because it's a Peel session, this is a link to what I've been doing: https://dc2.safesync.com/FSRFPgM/prefabs/downloads/19850818%20Peel%20Session%20From%20Good%20Tape/?a=P2UdGjFG9og Password is peel This is the Prefab Sprout Peel session, mostly from a contemporary off air FM CR02 tape, but with fill ins from various other versions, including one from Mark W here, and a couple of 6music rebroadcasts. I just waited 3 months for the initial drumbeat of Lions in my own garden, which was talked over by Peel himself. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > Just correcting my post, satellite is MP2 of course, which is inferior to AAC like for like. > > I think get_iplayer using the flashaac mode is the highest quality you can get. I use: > > get_iplayer --type=radio --raw --mode=flashaacstd1 ... (or --info to see what modes are available, sometimes there's a higher quality one) > > to get a nontranscoded stream dump. Normally with VBR as I understand it the stated bit rate is an average with one of the passes through the source used to calculate actual bit allocations around the nominal rate. Also different bitrates are served depending on location, UK listeners get more bits. > > This all assumes the AAC isn't MP2 transcoded, obviously. As various formats are available via the iplayer interface it's not clear whether they're all created from a waveform source or converted on the fly from a compressed format. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > Using Get_iplayer to "obtain" BBC6 Music web output, the result is vbr aac which can go above 200 and below 100 (maybe the average is around 128/130); as far as I can make out, Get_iplayer doesn't do any transcoding for radio. Strangely, I can't find any official BBC info/data on the iPlayer bitrate output etc. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > > > > > > > The web version of 6music is 128k aac @44K1, satellite broadcasts are 160k @48K. I just looked at the waveform for both transmission types when doing some archiving of a session and it's virtually identical down to sample level. > > > > > > It's a very moot point as to whether this is more or less lossy than FM, both analogue and digital have a frequency cutoff at about 15kHz, where digital scores over analogue is that you don't tend to get noise introduced by interference, and obviously in most cases analogue FM has been recorded in the past onto analogue cassettes or tape, and even if direct to DAT or CD it's going via some sort of analogue subsystem which will introduce losses. This is the funny thing about analogue buffs - what they see as "warmth" in analogue formats is because their equipment introduces filtering (losses) at various stages, where digital signals have much less before they hit the analogue chain and so have more higher frequency components due to allowing very sharp edges. > > > > > > What really screws up all sorts of radio these days is overuse of compression and hard limiting to decrease dynamic range. Basically everything is turned up when quiet and limited when loud, and the result is very loud and harsh - this is a modern fashion aimed at making the broadcasts sound uniformly loud. If you look at the waveform for a radio show broadcast on 6music, you'll find it's pretty much at maximum amplitude all the way through, where something recorded in the 1980s has a lot of dynamics. > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > > > > > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > > > > > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > > > > > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > > > > > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > > > > > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > > > > > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > > > > > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > > > > > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > > > > > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > > > > > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > > > > lollygagger > > > > > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > > > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > > > > > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > > > > > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > > > > > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > > > > > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > > > > > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > > > > > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > > > > > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > > > > > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > > > > > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From unity.gain@... Wed Jun 6 23:59:42 2012 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:59:42 -0000 Subject: And more L's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Stuart, I'll try to get some more uploaded this week and scan the inlays. A heavy workload has slowed progress with this recently, but a big part of that was lifted today, so hopefully i can crack on with it now, Cheers Roger --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - > L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 > and L226 75 minutes of the > previously unavailable 06 November 1992 > . > L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 > and L227b had 46 minutes > of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 > . > L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 > October 1992 and L228b is > an AK show. > L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK > show. > Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the > start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. > Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 > December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 > . (Not 100% sure of the > order of the segments but I think I have it right). > > OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and > L232a. > > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio > 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but > did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that > it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved > of, > > Cheers > > Roger > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jun 7 05:21:39 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:21:39 -0000 Subject: Two more from 1996 Message-ID: Fellow Peelites 1) 27 January 1996 (Sessions: Joyrider, Thrush Puppies) An hour and a half of this show. 2) 25 August 1996 (Reading Festival) Haze has already posted half of this four-hour bash, but this is virtually the whole thing, minus five minutes from the start. Many thanks to Isector, and to Alan for getting the last clue. Obviously too simple-minded.... Steve (TK) From stuartb@... Thu Jun 7 07:26:40 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:26:40 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > The web version of 6music is 128k aac @44K1, satellite broadcasts are 160k @48K. I just looked at the waveform for both transmission types when doing some archiving of a session and it's virtually identical down to sample level. > > It's a very moot point as to whether this is more or less lossy than FM, both analogue and digital have a frequency cutoff at about 15kHz, where digital scores over analogue is that you don't tend to get noise introduced by interference, and obviously in most cases analogue FM has been recorded in the past onto analogue cassettes or tape, and even if direct to DAT or CD it's going via some sort of analogue subsystem which will introduce losses. This is the funny thing about analogue buffs - what they see as "warmth" in analogue formats is because their equipment introduces filtering (losses) at various stages, where digital signals have much less before they hit the analogue chain and so have more higher frequency components due to allowing very sharp edges. > > What really screws up all sorts of radio these days is overuse of compression and hard limiting to decrease dynamic range. Basically everything is turned up when quiet and limited when loud, and the result is very loud and harsh - this is a modern fashion aimed at making the broadcasts sound uniformly loud. If you look at the waveform for a radio show broadcast on 6music, you'll find it's pretty much at maximum amplitude all the way through, where something recorded in the 1980s has a lot of dynamics. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > > > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > > > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > > > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > > > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > > > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > > > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > > > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > > > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > > > > > > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > > > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > > > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > > lollygagger > > > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > > > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > > > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > > > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > > > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > > > > > > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > > > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > > > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > > > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > > > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > > > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > From lyrasbench@... Thu Jun 7 10:19:14 2012 From: lyrasbench@... (Tim) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:19:14 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unless they have canine DNA, 44K1 is perfectly capable of encoding all frequencies an audiophile can actually hear, and absolutely certainly and without doubt all frequencies FM produces (it's cut off at about 15kHz because of the way stereo channels are encoded onto the available bandwidth). Whether it sounds better is a subjective judgement, and essentially the judgement is about the character of the analogue filtering chain - losses and noise - not the fidelity of signal reproduction. Audiophiles are a funny bunch, you can sell them expensive speaker wire when cheap mains cable would work better, and they'll swear blind it's worth the money. Religion and ego are very much involved. get_iplayer is great but takes a bit of getting your head around. There are a number of different formats available reflecting the range of devices the BBC supports for iplayer, and the --info option gives you a summary. --mode=flashaacstd seems to be the best for 6music, and a --raw download gives you the unreencoded stream. Well worth spending a couple of hours playing with. What you get is an .flv (flash video) file, which something like audacity can read if you have the right codecs. ".flv" is a multimedia container file format in which the original aac stream is embedded, so you need some sort of software to dig it out. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. > > Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... > > It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! > > Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? > > Stuart From thebarguest@... Thu Jun 7 14:43:49 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:43:49 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In the list of 'recording modes', flashaachigh should be placed before / in preference to flashstd in order to d/l the best available radio audio quality (as far as I can make out) ... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > Unless they have canine DNA, 44K1 is perfectly capable of encoding all frequencies an audiophile can actually hear, and absolutely certainly and without doubt all frequencies FM produces (it's cut off at about 15kHz because of the way stereo channels are encoded onto the available bandwidth). Whether it sounds better is a subjective judgement, and essentially the judgement is about the character of the analogue filtering chain - losses and noise - not the fidelity of signal reproduction. Audiophiles are a funny bunch, you can sell them expensive speaker wire when cheap mains cable would work better, and they'll swear blind it's worth the money. Religion and ego are very much involved. > > get_iplayer is great but takes a bit of getting your head around. There are a number of different formats available reflecting the range of devices the BBC supports for iplayer, and the --info option gives you a summary. --mode=flashaacstd seems to be the best for 6music, and a --raw download gives you the unreencoded stream. Well worth spending a couple of hours playing with. What you get is an .flv (flash video) file, which something like audacity can read if you have the right codecs. ".flv" is a multimedia container file format in which the original aac stream is embedded, so you need some sort of software to dig it out. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. > > > > Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... > > > > It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! > > > > Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? > > > > Stuart > From stuartb@... Thu Jun 7 15:04:05 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:04:05 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Though the resampling from 48khz studio sample rate does mean a lossy and potentially distorted sound hence DVD Audio SACD etc. to improve on that. And no I wouldn't pay more than a few quid for HDMI cables! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > Unless they have canine DNA, 44K1 is perfectly capable of encoding all frequencies an audiophile can actually hear, and absolutely certainly and without doubt all frequencies FM produces (it's cut off at about 15kHz because of the way stereo channels are encoded onto the available bandwidth). Whether it sounds better is a subjective judgement, and essentially the judgement is about the character of the analogue filtering chain - losses and noise - not the fidelity of signal reproduction. Audiophiles are a funny bunch, you can sell them expensive speaker wire when cheap mains cable would work better, and they'll swear blind it's worth the money. Religion and ego are very much involved. > > get_iplayer is great but takes a bit of getting your head around. There are a number of different formats available reflecting the range of devices the BBC supports for iplayer, and the --info option gives you a summary. --mode=flashaacstd seems to be the best for 6music, and a --raw download gives you the unreencoded stream. Well worth spending a couple of hours playing with. What you get is an .flv (flash video) file, which something like audacity can read if you have the right codecs. ".flv" is a multimedia container file format in which the original aac stream is embedded, so you need some sort of software to dig it out. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. > > > > Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... > > > > It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! > > > > Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? > > > > Stuart > From thebarguest@... Thu Jun 7 21:13:49 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:13:49 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Half-man-half-dog" - great band ! Or Slaughter & The Dogs. Or The Fabulous Poodles (Zappa fave). Or "Third-man-third-biscuit-third-dog". Possible university dissertation : "Canine Influences In Popular Music" .. Must go - wanna play "Dogs", "Do The Dog" and "Dog Eat Dog". Oh and then "Diamond Dogs". Sorry ... God is Great ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > Unless they have canine DNA, 44K1 is perfectly capable of encoding all frequencies an audiophile can actually hear, and absolutely certainly and without doubt all frequencies FM produces (it's cut off at about 15kHz because of the way stereo channels are encoded onto the available bandwidth). Whether it sounds better is a subjective judgement, and essentially the judgement is about the character of the analogue filtering chain - losses and noise - not the fidelity of signal reproduction. Audiophiles are a funny bunch, you can sell them expensive speaker wire when cheap mains cable would work better, and they'll swear blind it's worth the money. Religion and ego are very much involved. > > get_iplayer is great but takes a bit of getting your head around. There are a number of different formats available reflecting the range of devices the BBC supports for iplayer, and the --info option gives you a summary. --mode=flashaacstd seems to be the best for 6music, and a --raw download gives you the unreencoded stream. Well worth spending a couple of hours playing with. What you get is an .flv (flash video) file, which something like audacity can read if you have the right codecs. ".flv" is a multimedia container file format in which the original aac stream is embedded, so you need some sort of software to dig it out. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. > > > > Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... > > > > It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! > > > > Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? > > > > Stuart > From lyrasbench@... Thu Jun 7 22:54:05 2012 From: lyrasbench@... (Tim) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:54:05 -0000 Subject: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Impossible to follow that, except with this, which is very interesting http://telos-systems.com/techtalk/00222.pdf Page 7 is where the conclusions start. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > "Half-man-half-dog" - great band ! Or Slaughter & The Dogs. Or The Fabulous Poodles (Zappa fave). Or "Third-man-third-biscuit-third-dog". > Possible university dissertation : "Canine Influences In Popular Music" .. Must go - wanna play "Dogs", "Do The Dog" and "Dog Eat Dog". > Oh and then "Diamond Dogs". Sorry ... God is Great ! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > > Unless they have canine DNA, 44K1 is perfectly capable of encoding all frequencies an audiophile can actually hear, and absolutely certainly and without doubt all frequencies FM produces (it's cut off at about 15kHz because of the way stereo channels are encoded onto the available bandwidth). Whether it sounds better is a subjective judgement, and essentially the judgement is about the character of the analogue filtering chain - losses and noise - not the fidelity of signal reproduction. Audiophiles are a funny bunch, you can sell them expensive speaker wire when cheap mains cable would work better, and they'll swear blind it's worth the money. Religion and ego are very much involved. > > > > get_iplayer is great but takes a bit of getting your head around. There are a number of different formats available reflecting the range of devices the BBC supports for iplayer, and the --info option gives you a summary. --mode=flashaacstd seems to be the best for 6music, and a --raw download gives you the unreencoded stream. Well worth spending a couple of hours playing with. What you get is an .flv (flash video) file, which something like audacity can read if you have the right codecs. ".flv" is a multimedia container file format in which the original aac stream is embedded, so you need some sort of software to dig it out. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. > > > > > > Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... > > > > > > It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! > > > > > > Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? > > > > > > Stuart > > > From M.Luetchford@... Thu Jun 7 23:48:18 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:48:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339105698.78835.YahooMailNeo@...> Apart from with BowWowWow ... ________________________________ From: Tim To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012, 21:54 Subject: [peel] Re: DAB vs FM   Impossible to follow that, except with this, which is very interesting http://telos-systems.com/techtalk/00222.pdf Page 7 is where the conclusions start. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > "Half-man-half-dog" - great band ! Or Slaughter & The Dogs. Or The Fabulous Poodles (Zappa fave). Or "Third-man-third-biscuit-third-dog". > Possible university dissertation : "Canine Influences In Popular Music" .. Must go - wanna play "Dogs", "Do The Dog" and "Dog Eat Dog". > Oh and then "Diamond Dogs". Sorry ... God is Great ! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > > Unless they have canine DNA, 44K1 is perfectly capable of encoding all frequencies an audiophile can actually hear, and absolutely certainly and without doubt all frequencies FM produces (it's cut off at about 15kHz because of the way stereo channels are encoded onto the available bandwidth). Whether it sounds better is a subjective judgement, and essentially the judgement is about the character of the analogue filtering chain - losses and noise - not the fidelity of signal reproduction. Audiophiles are a funny bunch, you can sell them expensive speaker wire when cheap mains cable would work better, and they'll swear blind it's worth the money. Religion and ego are very much involved. > > > > get_iplayer is great but takes a bit of getting your head around. There are a number of different formats available reflecting the range of devices the BBC supports for iplayer, and the --info option gives you a summary. --mode=flashaacstd seems to be the best for 6music, and a --raw download gives you the unreencoded stream. Well worth spending a couple of hours playing with. What you get is an .flv (flash video) file, which something like audacity can read if you have the right codecs. ".flv" is a multimedia container file format in which the original aac stream is embedded, so you need some sort of software to dig it out. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > Yep, kind of what I was saying, with added science! I do think there are some aspects of the sound of a cassette recording of an FM broadcast made in the 80s (even after digitisation to 256-320kbps vbr mp3) which sound better than most current FM/DAB and that is nearly all down to the relative lack of dynamic range compression plus (in the case of DAB esp. 128kbps) lossy compression. Dave McCarthy in this very list explained how they used to experiment at the BBC with Optimod in the late 80s/early 90s which totally flattened the sound (and would let it run into distortion during loud passages until the levels were brought down in a delayed fashion). And why, even on my Pure portable, some internet stations sound better than any DAB and FM stations, the dynamic range trumps any slight loss of information compared to FM, and in any case many internet stations use better bitrates than DAB. > > > > > > Some analogue audiophiles would claim that the 44khz CD-rate sampling is not enough to capture the full waveform at higher frequencies... > > > > > > It is very disappointing that a serious music digital-only station partakes in the loudness war .... perhaps time for a campaign?! > > > > > > Incidentally, this getIplayer thingy, is this accessing a different stream to proper iPlayer that it has higher bitrates? Or is it only how it is re-encoded? > > > > > > Stuart > > > From paul@... Fri Jun 8 00:43:45 2012 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:43:45 +0100 Subject: Quantick on BBC R4 now Message-ID: <0F76C169-8A3B-4249-AB14-B4C00F5CCD0C@...> David Quantick, who pops in here every now and then, was just on BBC R4 (via iPlayer to get it later) chatting away with Jon Ronson again. This time remembering when he was the DJ at student union events in late 70s/early 80s Paul Webster From lollygagger@... Fri Jun 8 00:46:35 2012 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:46:35 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: DAB vs FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi and thanks for the tip about get_iplayer it sounds promising....just a matter or working it lol the techy stuff can seem a bit boring but if sorting it out brings to life and improves the quality of new music. Its good to keep looking forward. I wonder what music peely would be listening to if he was still on the go....hum ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [peel] Re: DAB vs FM Just correcting my post, satellite is MP2 of course, which is inferior to AAC like for like. I think get_iplayer using the flashaac mode is the highest quality you can get. I use: get_iplayer --type=radio --raw --mode=flashaacstd1 ... (or --info to see what modes are available, sometimes there's a higher quality one) to get a nontranscoded stream dump. Normally with VBR as I understand it the stated bit rate is an average with one of the passes through the source used to calculate actual bit allocations around the nominal rate. Also different bitrates are served depending on location, UK listeners get more bits. This all assumes the AAC isn't MP2 transcoded, obviously. As various formats are available via the iplayer interface it's not clear whether they're all created from a waveform source or converted on the fly from a compressed format. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > Using Get_iplayer to "obtain" BBC6 Music web output, the result is vbr aac which can go above 200 and below 100 (maybe the average is around 128/130); as far as I can make out, Get_iplayer doesn't do any transcoding for radio. Strangely, I can't find any official BBC info/data on the iPlayer bitrate output etc. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" wrote: > > > > > > The web version of 6music is 128k aac @44K1, satellite broadcasts are 160k @48K. I just looked at the waveform for both transmission types when doing some archiving of a session and it's virtually identical down to sample level. > > > > It's a very moot point as to whether this is more or less lossy than FM, both analogue and digital have a frequency cutoff at about 15kHz, where digital scores over analogue is that you don't tend to get noise introduced by interference, and obviously in most cases analogue FM has been recorded in the past onto analogue cassettes or tape, and even if direct to DAT or CD it's going via some sort of analogue subsystem which will introduce losses. This is the funny thing about analogue buffs - what they see as "warmth" in analogue formats is because their equipment introduces filtering (losses) at various stages, where digital signals have much less before they hit the analogue chain and so have more higher frequency components due to allowing very sharp edges. > > > > What really screws up all sorts of radio these days is overuse of compression and hard limiting to decrease dynamic range. Basically everything is turned up when quiet and limited when loud, and the result is very loud and harsh - this is a modern fashion aimed at making the broadcasts sound uniformly loud. If you look at the waveform for a radio show broadcast on 6music, you'll find it's pretty much at maximum amplitude all the way through, where something recorded in the 1980s has a lot of dynamics. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > The current BBC6 web-broadcast quality is pretty good, and compares well to the old FM. The former uses AAC (advanced audio codec) at a variable bit rate which can go above 200 kbps (at 44 kHz). Up until a few years ago, however, the quality was awful - 64 kbps and even lower. FM is/was equivalent to 192 kbps (I think I read somewhere), which is of course "lossy". I recently discovered to my surprise that some audiophiles regard cds as "lossy" and prefer vinyl ! I'm not sure my 50-year-old, rock-battered ears could tell the difference between 192kbps and a CD, ha ha .... > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > > > There's no excuse for less dynamic range on DAB after all we were always > > > > told the compression on FM was to avoid the hiss taking over in poor signal > > > > areas during quiet passages. DAB and other digital sources should be using > > > > the full dynamic range that we all seem to be supposed to cope with on CD > > > > and DVD audio. And many internet radio stations are now in far better SQ > > > > than DAB due to not using dynamic range compression. And while Radio 1 does > > > > have the "excuse" it broadcasts on FM and so some studio-stage compression > > > > takes place, 6music only broadcasts digitally so should use CD style > > > > uncompressed (dynamic range wise) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bit rate is another matter.. Radio 3 does get the full 192kbps and R1 > > > > 160kbps but 128kbps is rather poor for a serious music station. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally I find the current FM Radio 1 quality some way below the best > > > > of my early 1980s Peel show mixtapes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > > > lollygagger > > > > Sent: 04 June 2012 15:56 > > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [peel] DAB vs FM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't pipe up much...having been seemingly spoilt with Radio 1's FM > > > > quality for Peel's shows then found I had to search out radio shows for > > > > tracks that Peel would have likely played i.e. Giles Peterson then Hew > > > > Stephens (more white boys with guitars) and Rob Da Banks low key left of > > > > centre of music...and some internet listening from dadelionradio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Giles left Radio 1 to DAB Radio 6 128kbs...what a come down in sound > > > > quality where have the dynamics gone! On the plus side I have discovered > > > > that Tom Ravenscroft does appear to have weekly slot on Radio 6...yeh I am a > > > > bit slow to pick up on these things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a shame though Radio 1 gets FM to play mainly regurgitated X factor > > > > music. Music lovers with a variety of tastes, who do notice the difference, > > > > get low fi 128kbs...grrrr.... just my gripe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5052 - Release Date: 06/06/12 From M.Luetchford@... Fri Jun 8 01:01:51 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:01:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Johnny Clarke on 6Music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> It would be good if you could as I just looked for something bearing resemblance to this on iplayer and cant find owt -  then an earlier reference to watching docu on bbc6 baffled me for a bit then I dug and found this on bbc4:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jcdbc/Evidently..._John_Cooper_Clarke/ You have 3 days - Evidently Chicken Town ________________________________ From: Eddie Duffy To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012, 14:35 Subject: [peel] Re: Johnny Clarke on 6Music   I grabbed all four of these, and can put them up if you like. Bear with me though, as I'm in the process of rebuilding my online life after a frazzled laptop. It's worth checking the iPlayer for JCC at the moment, as the Beeb's been all over him lately. Eddie. From thebarguest@... Fri Jun 8 01:05:50 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:05:50 -0000 Subject: Quantick on BBC R4 now In-Reply-To: <0F76C169-8A3B-4249-AB14-B4C00F5CCD0C@...> Message-ID: Yeah, last night radio 5 was shite so tried r4 - Ronson great ! Always interesting - should be on tv ... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Webster wrote: > > David Quantick, who pops in here every now and then, was just on BBC R4 (via iPlayer to get it later) chatting away with Jon Ronson again. > This time remembering when he was the DJ at student union events in late 70s/early 80s > > Paul Webster > From nigellancashire@... Fri Jun 8 01:10:08 2012 From: nigellancashire@... (nijrosexx) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:10:08 -0000 Subject: Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 Message-ID: Hi Chaps (and Chapesses), Newie here, so my sincere apologies if I'm asking something stupid here, but has anyone already uploaded, or has lurking, a copy of the Friday Rock Show from 09.10.1981? It's an important one to me, as my Mum (now departed) had a request played for my birthday, but I never heard it, as I was out getting roaring drunk at the Phoenix Bar in Manchester. If anyone could help, I'd be ridiculously grateful. From M.Luetchford@... Fri Jun 8 22:48:02 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:48:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339188482.2928.YahooMailNeo@...> This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981 . The show you want hasn't been shared yet according to this page .... I had a similar (though less personal) request for a Peel mention of me and someone came up with the goods so don't despair. Your quest will succeed. Mark ________________________________ From: nijrosexx To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012, 0:10 Subject: [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09   Hi Chaps (and Chapesses), Newie here, so my sincere apologies if I'm asking something stupid here, but has anyone already uploaded, or has lurking, a copy of the Friday Rock Show from 09.10.1981? It's an important one to me, as my Mum (now departed) had a request played for my birthday, but I never heard it, as I was out getting roaring drunk at the Phoenix Bar in Manchester. If anyone could help, I'd be ridiculously grateful. From pa0353@... Sat Jun 9 12:22:32 2012 From: pa0353@... (Paul Andrews) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 11:22:32 +0100 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: <1339188482.2928.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1339188482.2928.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: Hi Nigel. I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. Close but no cigar. There is a chance that someone out there will have a copy of this show. Paul. Sent from my iPad On 8 Jun 2012, at 21:48, MARK LUETCHFORD wrote: This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981 . The show you want hasn't been shared yet according to this page .... I had a similar (though less personal) request for a Peel mention of me and someone came up with the goods so don't despair. Your quest will succeed. Mark From: nijrosexx To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012, 0:10 Subject: [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 Hi Chaps (and Chapesses), Newie here, so my sincere apologies if I'm asking something stupid here, but has anyone already uploaded, or has lurking, a copy of the Friday Rock Show from 09.10.1981? It's an important one to me, as my Mum (now departed) had a request played for my birthday, but I never heard it, as I was out getting roaring drunk at the Phoenix Bar in Manchester. If anyone could help, I'd be ridiculously grateful. From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Jun 9 12:54:08 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:54:08 -0000 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. > > Paul. Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in advance! > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. > > Mark Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in touch. Steve (FRS Wiki) From nigellancashire@... Sat Jun 9 17:22:45 2012 From: nigellancashire@... (nijrosexx) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:22:45 -0000 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Paul, that does gives me hope. Unfortunately, at 19, i was more interested in girls and gigs then i was in staying in, and there was no way mum would have figured out the intricacies of home taping. I did at least repay the attempt some years later by getting a birthday kiss blown at her by Vince Hill and Suzi Quatro on a daytime TV chat show they used to host. Apologies for being off-topic Mark,I just noticed there was a reasonable amount of interest over the past year or so in the FRS on here and thought it might be my chance after several years of searching. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. > > > > Paul. > > Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in advance! > > > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. > > > > Mark > > Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in touch. > > Steve (FRS Wiki) > From nigellancashire@... Sat Jun 9 17:27:41 2012 From: nigellancashire@... (nijrosexx) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:27:41 -0000 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve, I do have some bits and bobs knocking about, In concerts and the such, mostly from the mid-80s, but some earlier stuff too. Is there a full listing anywhere of shows already uploaded? I have had a look about, but not spotted anything. Also, can anyone explain the Moo to me (I'm such a technologically simple soul...) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. > > > > Paul. > > Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in advance! > > > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. > > > > Mark > > Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in touch. > > Steve (FRS Wiki) > From ford.alan@... Sat Jun 9 19:05:20 2012 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:05:20 +0100 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Apologies for being off-topic As far as I'm concerned there's no need to apologise for being off-topic. I wasn't sure if the "obsess on Peel" comment was supposed to be a joke or not - this group is called PEEL after all. Having said that, I don't remember anyone ever complaining about people being off-topic as long as it relates to 'quality' radio. Alan On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM, nijrosexx wrote: > ** > > > Thanks Paul, that does gives me hope. Unfortunately, at 19, i was more > interested in girls and gigs then i was in staying in, and there was no way > mum would have figured out the intricacies of home taping. > > I did at least repay the attempt some years later by getting a birthday > kiss blown at her by Vince Hill and Suzi Quatro on a daytime TV chat show > they used to host. > > Apologies for being off-topic Mark,I just noticed there was a reasonable > amount of interest over the past year or so in the FRS on here and thought > it might be my chance after several years of searching. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" > wrote: > > > > > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. > > > > > > Paul. > > > > Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in > advance! > > > > > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here > but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set > up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. > > > > > > Mark > > > > Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to > help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in > touch. > > > > Steve (FRS Wiki) > > > > > From pa0353@... Mon Jun 11 22:26:16 2012 From: pa0353@... (Paul Andrews) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:26:16 +0100 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Will do. Sent from my iPad On 9 Jun 2012, at 11:54, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. > > Paul. Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in advance! > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. > > Mark Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in touch. Steve (FRS Wiki) From unity.gain@... Wed Jun 13 12:50:56 2012 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:50:56 -0000 Subject: And more L's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Finished and uploaded the batch today; L's 216 to 234 now present and hopefully correct at my Mooo page. The inlay scans should follow in the next few days, Cheers Roger P.S. Some cracking stuff as always, including a session from Tony Benn on Kershaw's program, and John recalling his encounter with Princess Margaret at a Desert Island Discs event, during which they bonded over being the only two people to have played themselves on the Archers! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Thanks, Stuart, I'll try to get some more uploaded this week and scan the inlays. > A heavy workload has slowed progress with this recently, but a big part of that was lifted today, so hopefully i can crack on with it now, > Cheers > Roger > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - > > L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 > > and L226 75 minutes of the > > previously unavailable 06 November 1992 > > . > > L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 > > and L227b had 46 minutes > > of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 > > . > > L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 > > October 1992 and L228b is > > an AK show. > > L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK > > show. > > Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the > > start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. > > Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 > > December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 > > . (Not 100% sure of the > > order of the segments but I think I have it right). > > > > OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and > > L232a. > > > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio > > 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but > > did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that > > it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved > > of, > > > Cheers > > > Roger > > > > > > From unity.gain@... Wed Jun 13 12:52:45 2012 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:52:45 -0000 Subject: And more L's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Finished and uploaded the batch today; L's 216 to 234 now present and hopefully correct at my Mooo page. The inlay scans should follow in the next few days, Cheers Roger P.S. Some cracking stuff as always, including a session from Tony Benn on Kershaw's program, and John recalling his encounter with Princess Margaret at a Desert Island Discs event, during which they bonded over being the only two people to have played themselves on the Archers! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Thanks, Stuart, I'll try to get some more uploaded this week and scan the inlays. > A heavy workload has slowed progress with this recently, but a big part of that was lifted today, so hopefully i can crack on with it now, > Cheers > Roger > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - > > L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 > > and L226 75 minutes of the > > previously unavailable 06 November 1992 > > . > > L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 > > and L227b had 46 minutes > > of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 > > . > > L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 > > October 1992 and L228b is > > an AK show. > > L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK > > show. > > Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the > > start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. > > Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 > > December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 > > . (Not 100% sure of the > > order of the segments but I think I have it right). > > > > OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and > > L232a. > > > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio > > 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but > > did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that > > it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved > > of, > > > Cheers > > > Roger > > > > > > From parkermike81@... Wed Jun 13 12:54:15 2012 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:54:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: And more L's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339584855.92965.YahooMailNeo@...> thanks roger ________________________________ From: bty997881 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012, 11:50 Subject: [peel] Re: And more L's   Finished and uploaded the batch today; L's 216 to 234 now present and hopefully correct at my Mooo page. The inlay scans should follow in the next few days, Cheers Roger P.S. Some cracking stuff as always, including a session from Tony Benn on Kershaw's program, and John recalling his encounter with Princess Margaret at a Desert Island Discs event, during which they bonded over being the only two people to have played themselves on the Archers! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Thanks, Stuart, I'll try to get some more uploaded this week and scan the inlays. > A heavy workload has slowed progress with this recently, but a big part of that was lifted today, so hopefully i can crack on with it now, > Cheers > Roger > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - > > L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 > > and L226 75 minutes of the > > previously unavailable 06 November 1992 > > . > > L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 > > and L227b had 46 minutes > > of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 > > . > > L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 > > October 1992 and L228b is > > an AK show. > > L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK > > show. > > Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the > > start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. > > Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 > > December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 > > . (Not 100% sure of the > > order of the segments but I think I have it right). > > > > OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and > > L232a. > > > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio > > 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but > > did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that > > it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved > > of, > > > Cheers > > > Roger > > > > > > From parkermike81@... Wed Jun 13 12:54:31 2012 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:54:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: And more L's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339584871.60288.YahooMailNeo@...> thanks roger ________________________________ From: bty997881 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012, 11:52 Subject: [peel] Re: And more L's   Finished and uploaded the batch today; L's 216 to 234 now present and hopefully correct at my Mooo page. The inlay scans should follow in the next few days, Cheers Roger P.S. Some cracking stuff as always, including a session from Tony Benn on Kershaw's program, and John recalling his encounter with Princess Margaret at a Desert Island Discs event, during which they bonded over being the only two people to have played themselves on the Archers! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Thanks, Stuart, I'll try to get some more uploaded this week and scan the inlays. > A heavy workload has slowed progress with this recently, but a big part of that was lifted today, so hopefully i can crack on with it now, > Cheers > Roger > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - > > L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 > > and L226 75 minutes of the > > previously unavailable 06 November 1992 > > . > > L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 > > and L227b had 46 minutes > > of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 > > . > > L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 > > October 1992 and L228b is > > an AK show. > > L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK > > show. > > Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the > > start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. > > Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 > > December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 > > . (Not 100% sure of the > > order of the segments but I think I have it right). > > > > OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and > > L232a. > > > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio > > 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but > > did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that > > it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved > > of, > > > Cheers > > > Roger > > > > > > From paul@... Wed Jun 13 16:42:07 2012 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:42:07 +0100 Subject: TheSpace - Peel Archive - G In-Reply-To: References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> Message-ID: <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Here is the list for letter G Gang of Four outnumbered by Rory Gallagher ... I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_G There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links Video G001 12625 G.B.H. Leather, Bristles, Studs and Acne G002 13556 G.B.H. City Baby Attacked By Rats G003 17122 G.B.H. Midnight Madness & Beyond G004 25469 G.F. Electronic Lesson Pt. 2 G005 26305 G-Man Avanti G006 22920 GTO Tip Of The Iceberg G007 15991 Gabinete Caligari Cuatro Rosas http://open.spotify.com/album/0wwftE7N26Pdh5PXSiFj2F G008 11511 B.B. Gabor BBGabor G009 9861 Gabriel Bondage Another Trip To Earth G010 8774 Peter Gabriel Peter Gabriel http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/peter-gabriel-1-car-remastered/id343321600 G011 9924 Peter Gabriel Peter Gabriel http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/peter-gabriel-2-scratch-remastered/id343341312 G012 9924 Peter Gabriel Peter Gabriel http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/peter-gabriel-3-melt-remastered/id343332946 G013 11636 Peter Gabriel Ein Deutsches Album G014 17135 Bob Gaddy Rip And Run G015 11414 Gadgets Gadgetree G016 12069 the Gadgets Love, Curiosity, Freckles & Doubt G017 14554 the Gadgets Blue Album G018 10482 Gaffa Neither Use Nor Ornament G019 9745 Gags Death In Buzzard's Gulch G020 1804 Slim Gaillard Chicken Rhythm G021 7819 Slim Gaillard McVouty, Slim & Bam G022 8971 Slim Gaillard Son Of McVouty G023 11169 Slim Gaillard Slim Gaillard At Birdland http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/slim-gaillard-at-birdland/id267289500 G024 13376 Slim Gaillard / Slam Stewart Matzoh Balls G025 13443 Slim Gaillard Opera In Vout G026 13894 Slim Gaillard The Voutest! G027 14084 Slim Gaillard / Slam Stewart Slim & Slam http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/original-1938-recordings/id466013567 G028 14251 Slim Gaillard Anytime, Anyplace - Anywhere- G029 14584 Slim Gaillard Roots Of Vouty G030 15569 Slim Gaillard Cement Mixer Putti Putti G031 18038 Earl Gaines Yearning And Burning G032 4906 The Marion Gaines Singers This Too Is Gospel G033 13168 Roy Gaines Gainelining http://open.spotify.com/album/75GsCiFZ0E4qkgVbaexeXr G034 10894 Serge Gainsbourg Aux Armes Et Caetera http://open.spotify.com/album/2TGIZG3yjHxEOEZIv2kUwX G035 5863 Galactic Supermarket Galactic Supermarket G036 13339 Diamanda Galas The Litanies Of Satan http://open.spotify.com/album/7eYMiiWN4rES1Dd2Ys2ibM G037 17575 Diamanda Galas The Divine Punishment http://open.spotify.com/album/2P0KAdLDnwYCdJQdEeMMFK G038 20743 Galaxie 500 Today http://open.spotify.com/album/1faRYIhkcOIgA6unApfiEC G039 20830 Galaxie 500 On Fire http://open.spotify.com/album/3EIIzNTODSoqUO0IDgv0t1 G040 21485 Galaxie 500 This Is Our Music http://open.spotify.com/album/1Ns6bxdNr5wo0Zu8I9QHdT G041 23386 The Galaxy Trio Saucers Over Vegas G042 10263 Arlyn Gale Back To The Midwest Night G043 0559 Eddie Gale's Ghetto Music Eddie Gale's Ghetto Music http://open.spotify.com/album/5s9oW0rlclNDSXlFqiUHJF G044 9565 Eric Gale Multiplication http://open.spotify.com/album/0t7FnWGM2xr14MtA8z4rwR G045 8970 Gale Force Gale Force G046 3616 Gallagher Lyle Benny Gallagher / Graham Lyle G047 5433 Gallagher & Lyle Seeds http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/seeds/id397610214 G048 6346 Gallagher & Lyle The Last Cowboy G049 8635 Gallagher & Lyle Love On The Airwaves G050 3483 Rory Gallagher Deuce http://open.spotify.com/album/3Ytf9SvOEWINYhKDnj1QYA G051 3821 Rory Gallagher Live! In Europe http://open.spotify.com/album/1rNfRu3jJrf1TvX15mIjDG G052 4634 Rory Gallagher Blueprint http://open.spotify.com/album/3RiJJRFeglWGVIPUZZh2b3 G053 5328 Rory Gallagher Tattoo http://open.spotify.com/album/70p6PUxUMbGdQdgA5kIlcn G054 6119 Rory Gallagher Irish Tour '74 1 http://open.spotify.com/album/4LvpLeJMbJVCpwzJi7Pf0q G055 6949 Rory Gallagher Rory Gallagher http://open.spotify.com/album/6B9DwjDw38fN2InPh2DCoW G056 6120 Rory Gallagher Irish Tour '74 2 http://open.spotify.com/album/4LvpLeJMbJVCpwzJi7Pf0q G057 7454 Rory Gallagher Against The Grain http://open.spotify.com/album/0jEvBi9Svw2sWVQedPeVNF G058 7769 Rory Gallagher The Story So Far G059 8395 Rory Gallagher Calling Card http://open.spotify.com/album/2ERwoelRrN2Nj3vhBNd5U6 G060 8848 Rory Gallagher Live G061 10231 Rory Gallagher Photo-Finish http://open.spotify.com/album/35HDVJWa8fmwX8szJO3anV G062 10902 Rory Gallagher Top Priority http://open.spotify.com/album/2Gy1OXRuo5R9T08krf4oiw G063 2010 Gallaird Strange Pleasure G064 2653 Gallaird New dawn G065 0560 The Javanese Gamelan Khjai Mendung Music of the Venerable Dark Cloud G066 22317 Gallon Drunk The Singles Bar http://open.spotify.com/album/7G7eUKfeugWhBQIPWbFurZ G067 22318 Gallon Drunk You, The Night & The Music http://open.spotify.com/album/4ULcLui1iSGpyRol7MXBhL G068 22681 Gallon Drunk From The Heart Of Town http://open.spotify.com/album/1OpcN4cNMDl8O0y5tPftwP G069 24474 Gallon Drunk In The Long Still Night G070 26203 Gallon Drunk Fire Music G071 1585 Gamelan Music from the Morning of the World G072 19165 Soliman Gamil The Egyptian Music http://open.spotify.com/album/0jVi4qdK7s9kmDwDnCTKnJ G073 10992 Patrick Gammon Don't Touch Me G074 22621 Gan Do That Again G075 10541 Ron Warren Ganderton Guitar Star G076 14462 The Ganelin Trio New Wine G077 17745 Gang Green Another Wasted Night http://open.spotify.com/album/5xduBT3B6AKNelPHyBwISp G078 20794 Gang Green Older...Budweiser http://open.spotify.com/album/5wFkZkieNQEq4ZKBlzAmPP G079 10994 Gang Of Four Entertainment! http://open.spotify.com/album/4lktnCTpQK5vV1im9Z3htY G080 12229 Gang Of Four Solid Gold http://open.spotify.com/album/0QuziGC0N0i5bgGl7aVyFD G081 13301 Gang Of Four Songs Of The Free http://open.spotify.com/album/6rFeCfbuasUaYiJJXH65TF G082 14529 Gang Of Four Hard http://open.spotify.com/album/3QdBWg3YIX4b0uHcp7CKmL G083 21272 Gang Of Four The Peel Sessions Album G084 20445 Gang Starr No More Mr. Nice Guy G085 21755 Gang Starr Step In The Arena http://open.spotify.com/album/05wcY4zcfSawCyoutTTxda G086 24730 Ganger Fore http://open.spotify.com/album/1P4Su0dj0UaIECTQKz6ShP G087 25463 Ganger Hammock Style http://open.spotify.com/album/1WJmGYBxtBA0f4FW7LP7ft G088 10753 Gangsters The Gangsters G089 26156 Cecil Gant Rock Little Baby G090 4534 The Gants Road Runner http://open.spotify.com/album/21z9iy3EOROLG3z2GsT4bm G091 6352 The Gap Band Magician's Holiday G092 8813 The Gap Band The Gap Band http://open.spotify.com/album/3WYezR6EzqjnGDqHMPwz0K G093 15902 The Gap Band VI http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/gap-band-vi/id366996003 G094 11686 Garbochock Ritual G095 4172 Vin Garbutt The Valley of Tees G096 6976 Vin Garbutt The Young Tin Whistle Pest G097 8514 Vin Garbutt King Gooden G098 3266 Jerry Garcia & Howard Wales Hooterall? http://open.spotify.com/album/7877WtPAkRPUKMmzeFR5Hw G099 3512 Jerry Garcia Garcia G100 5975 Jerry Garcia Garcia From saipanda@... Wed Jun 13 18:03:01 2012 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:03:01 -0000 Subject: TheSpace - Peel Archive - G In-Reply-To: <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Message-ID: Many thanks as always to Paul. SW --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Webster wrote: > > Here is the list for letter G > > Gang of Four outnumbered by Rory Gallagher ... > > I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are > filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) > Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those > that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_G > > There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. > > > ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links Video > G001 12625 G.B.H. Leather, Bristles, Studs and Acne > G002 13556 G.B.H. City Baby Attacked By Rats > G003 17122 G.B.H. Midnight Madness & Beyond > G004 25469 G.F. Electronic Lesson Pt. 2 From M.Luetchford@... Fri Jun 15 14:58:54 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:58:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339765134.85988.YahooMailNeo@...> Absolutely - no need to apologise - just pointing out that may need to look for help in other places too like the FRS wiki. Anyone else got any ideas where he may find the FRS show -  1981.10.09 sounds like a really good cause! ________________________________ From: Alan Ford To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2012, 18:05 Subject: Re: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09   > Apologies for being off-topic As far as I'm concerned there's no need to apologise for being off-topic.  I wasn't sure if the "obsess on Peel" comment was supposed to be a joke or not - this group is called PEEL after all. Having said that, I don't remember anyone ever complaining about people being off-topic as long as it relates to 'quality' radio. Alan On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM, nijrosexx wrote:   >Thanks Paul, that does gives me hope. Unfortunately, at 19, i was more interested in girls and gigs then i was in staying in, and there was no way mum would have figured out the intricacies of home taping. > >I did at least repay the attempt some years later by getting a birthday kiss blown at her by Vince Hill and Suzi Quatro on a daytime TV chat show they used to host. > >Apologies for being off-topic Mark,I just noticed there was a reasonable amount of interest over the past year or so in the FRS on here and thought it might be my chance after several years of searching. > > >--- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: >> >> > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. >> > >> > Paul. >> >> Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in advance! >> >> > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. >> > >> > Mark >> >> Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in touch. >> >> Steve (FRS Wiki) >> > > From haze.harrison@... Fri Jun 15 15:28:05 2012 From: haze.harrison@... (haze_harrison) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:28:05 -0000 Subject: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 In-Reply-To: <1339765134.85988.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: The FRS wiki is very much in it's infancy at the moment (we've only got about 12 shows up there) There is a FRS group over in another place where a bit of sharing is going on. I'll ask there.... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, MARK LUETCHFORD wrote: > > Absolutely - no need to apologise - just pointing out that may need to look for help in other places too like the FRS wiki. Anyone else got any ideas where he may find the FRS show -  1981.10.09 sounds like a really good cause! > > > > ________________________________ > From: Alan Ford > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2012, 18:05 > Subject: Re: OT [peel] Desperately Seeking... FRS 1981.10.09 > > >   > > Apologies for being off-topic > > As far as I'm concerned there's no need to apologise for being off-topic.  > I wasn't sure if the "obsess on Peel" comment was supposed to be a joke or not - this group is called PEEL after all. > Having said that, I don't remember anyone ever complaining about people being off-topic as long as it relates to 'quality' radio. > > Alan > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM, nijrosexx wrote: > >   > >Thanks Paul, that does gives me hope. Unfortunately, at 19, i was more interested in girls and gigs then i was in staying in, and there was no way mum would have figured out the intricacies of home taping. > > > >I did at least repay the attempt some years later by getting a birthday kiss blown at her by Vince Hill and Suzi Quatro on a daytime TV chat show they used to host. > > > >Apologies for being off-topic Mark,I just noticed there was a reasonable amount of interest over the past year or so in the FRS on here and thought it might be my chance after several years of searching. > > > > > >--- In mailto:peel%40yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > >> > >> > I have a complete recording of the show from the week after, the 16th. > >> > > >> > Paul. > >> > >> Dear Paul, is there any chance you could upload this, please? Thanks in advance! > >> > >> > This request is slightly off topic as we tend to obsess on Peel here but as people here had some FRS to share some kind soul from this group set up a FRS wiki here - http://fridayrockshow.wikia.com/wiki/1981. > >> > > >> > Mark > >> > >> Gee, thanks for the appreciation Mark! If anybody else would like to help, please do. Likewise, any others with shows to share, please get in touch. > >> > >> Steve (FRS Wiki) > >> > > > > > From robfleay@... Mon Jun 18 11:53:41 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:53:41 +0100 Subject: Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content Message-ID: I saw Lawrence of Belgravia (Paul Kelly's documentary about Lawrence from Felt/Denim/Go Kart Mozart) at the weekend and there was a great bit where Lawrence adamantly claims that the reason Felt never achieved the same level of success as their contemporaries is purely down to the fact that John Peel didn't like them. This then leads on to Pete Astor telling Lawrence that when he did a Wisdom Of Harry session at Peel Acres, he covered a Denim song and John Peel told him that he'd never received a letter as horrible and vitriolic as the one that Lawrence sent him. Apparently Peel hadn't liked the first Felt single, so Lawrence wrote to him demanding both copies of the 7" back that he'd sent in. He then displayed the original copy of the single with John Peel's handwritten & signed note on the sleeve saying "I could only find one copy of the single so please send me a bill for the missing copy and I will give you the money" The film is excellent anyway and highly recommended viewing - even if you aren't a big fan From haze.harrison@... Mon Jun 18 15:49:58 2012 From: haze.harrison@... (haze_harrison) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:49:58 -0000 Subject: Bits on a 2007 blog Message-ID: I've just stumbled upon a blog which in 2007 posted a few Peel clips. I have mailed them asking if there are more clips to be had.... >From my limited research I think these may be previously unavailable, apart from Morgan Fisher (which has more of John's intro than on the previously shared file) The Damned - I Just Can't Be Happy Today (Session#4) m4a Killing Joke - Change (Session#2) m4a Killing Joke - Complications (Session 2) m4a Smack - Edward Fox (7" single) m4a Tsk Tsk Tsk - Polina (7" single) m4a Morgan Fisher (Kapital; Punishment) - Save Your Kisses For Me (1979-12-04) m4a Haze From ddriscoll@... Tue Jun 19 00:20:36 2012 From: ddriscoll@... (fruitierthanthou) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:20:36 -0000 Subject: John Peel Fanzine Interview - 1984 Message-ID: I was digging around looking for something else, when I found this John Peel interview in Eleanor Linwood's BABY BITES BACK fanzine.. I reckon this is around late summer / autumn 1984.. I though you guys would like to see.. I have scanned in here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fruitier_than_thou/sets/72157630183516940/ Dave FTT From M.Luetchford@... Tue Jun 19 09:32:00 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:32:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> I saw an early cut of this a few years back and I agree its brilliant - I don't recall the section about Peel so its probably a later edit in but I am pretty certain that Peel did play Face on Fire as I had it on a mixtape that was chewed many moons ago.   Paul Kelly also made an excellent film about Dolly Mixture - Take Three Girls that is worth catching if you can.   Mark ________________________________ From: RobF To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 18 June 2012, 10:53 Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content     I saw Lawrence of Belgravia (Paul Kelly's documentary about Lawrence from Felt/Denim/Go Kart Mozart) at the weekend and there was a great bit where Lawrence adamantly claims that the reason Felt never achieved the same level of success as their contemporaries is purely down to the fact that John Peel didn't like them.   This then leads on to Pete Astor telling Lawrence that when he did a Wisdom Of Harry session at Peel Acres, he covered a Denim song and John Peel told him that he'd never received a letter as horrible and vitriolic as the one that Lawrence sent him. Apparently Peel hadn't liked the first Felt single, so Lawrence wrote to him demanding both copies of the 7" back that he'd sent in.   He then displayed the original copy of the single with John Peel's handwritten & signed note on the sleeve saying "I could only find one copy of the single so please send me a bill for the missing copy and I will give you the money" The film is excellent anyway and highly recommended viewing - even if you aren't a big fan From abcdetc@... Tue Jun 19 10:04:10 2012 From: abcdetc@... (Ben Harrison) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:04:10 +0800 Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: Absolutely not up-to-speed w/ this, but minor detail: I am sure I have a Peel-related compilation that features Felt's Primitive Painters. Can't recall if it's something I purchased, or was it one that came w/ Uncut* magazine? (*might have been an inside job then...) I don't know if any of this tells us if they were every played on it though. I might never known of Felt if not for an issue of Smash Hits from whenever Julian Cope's World Shut Your Mouth single came out. And in addition to a Whitney Houston poster on the back, it had a page on this barefoot chap, Lawrence. Enthusiastically written by Sylvia Patterson? Is this when a-Ha's second album came out. Billy Idol on the cover? Jumpers for goalposts... On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:32 PM, MARK LUETCHFORD < M.Luetchford@...> wrote: > ** > > > I saw an early cut of this a few years back and I agree its brilliant - I > don't recall the section about Peel so its probably a later edit in but I > am pretty certain that Peel did play Face on Fire as I had it on a > mixtape that was chewed many moons ago. > > Paul Kelly also made an excellent film about Dolly Mixture - Take Three > Girls that is worth catching if you can. > > Mark > > *From:* RobF > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, 18 June 2012, 10:53 > *Subject:* [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content > > > > I saw Lawrence of Belgravia (Paul Kelly's documentary about Lawrence from > Felt/Denim/Go Kart Mozart) at the weekend and there was a great bit where > Lawrence adamantly claims that the reason Felt never achieved the same > level of success as their contemporaries is purely down to the fact that > John Peel didn't like them. > > This then leads on to Pete Astor telling Lawrence that when he did a > Wisdom Of Harry session at Peel Acres, he covered a Denim song and John > Peel told him that he'd never received a letter as horrible and vitriolic > as the one that Lawrence sent him. Apparently Peel hadn't liked the first > Felt single, so Lawrence wrote to him demanding both copies of the 7" back > that he'd sent in. > > He then displayed the original copy of the single with John Peel's > handwritten & signed note on the sleeve saying "I could only find one copy > of the single so please send me a bill for the missing copy and I will give > you the money" > > The film is excellent anyway and highly recommended viewing - even if you > aren't a big fan > > > > From abcdetc@... Tue Jun 19 10:09:50 2012 From: abcdetc@... (Ben Harrison) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:09:50 +0800 Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: References: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: Well that was easy... > Felt (in) Smash Hits from > http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/smash-hits?before=1337989673 From robfleay@... Tue Jun 19 10:41:45 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:41:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: References: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: A quick search on the Peel wiki shows that Peel did play Felt several times. The incident in question was around their debut single (which i fairness WAS awful) and the first album (Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty) which Peel apparently said on air was the worst album title he'd ever heard - or words to that effect. Still they never did a session - which, for a UK band on 4AD/Creation/Cherry Red is probably a more solid indicator of whether Peel was a fan or not. Primitive Painters was in the Festive 50 wasn't it? On 19 June 2012 09:09, Ben Harrison wrote: > > > Well that was easy... > > >> Felt (in) Smash Hits from >> > > http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/smash-hits?before=1337989673 > > > > From paul@... Tue Jun 19 11:48:50 2012 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:48:50 +0100 Subject: TheSpace - Peel Archive - H In-Reply-To: <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Message-ID: Here is the list for letter H Half-Man Half-Biscuit featured this time http://thespace.org/items/e0000b24/player I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_H There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links H001 21715 H. C. Anderson Satuja Ja Tarinoita H002 22403 H. C. Anderson 5 Vuoden Aikaa H003 19164 H.D.Q. You Suck! H004 20637 H.D.Q. HDQ H005 23546 H.Oilers Yo Ho Ho: The Rock 'n' Roll Sailor H006 23547 H.Oilers The Innocent Catholic Combat Waltz H007 11630 H.T. Spliff Out Of The Earth's Womb H008 10302 Joni Haastrup Wake Up Your Mind http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/wake-up-your-mind/id459361107 H009 16566 Pepe Habichuela A Mandeli http://open.spotify.com/album/5P9XwuasRB8rG4HKGEQOMY H010 5666 Hackensack Up The Hard Way H011 25819 The Hacker Melodies En Sous-Sol http://open.spotify.com/album/3MJ0kzgQ7AyBYgtCvEIn5h H012 7465 Steve Hackett Voyage Of The Acolyte http://open.spotify.com/album/4twSmtePdvfZhSpI2LV5W2 H013 10676 Steve Hackett Spectral Mornings http://open.spotify.com/album/3JL21NegF3SeQsuqPdmMNN H014 17481 Hackney 5-0 Between The Floors http://open.spotify.com/album/3rHPEeow2bvI8qi7EiP3RR H015 18626 Hackney 5-0 Three Foot To The Left http://open.spotify.com/album/1gmLNomC5s372HGeAxhmid H016 8744 Bob Hadley Tunes From The Well http://open.spotify.com/album/1nO5S97L8E5DCTAsxS1DKw H017 8755 Bob Hadley Raven http://open.spotify.com/album/1vvTQhDRhUhKDeAGu8elNw H018 15485 The Halfer Trio Bang-An Open Letter H019 7825 Sammy Hagar Nine On A Ten Scale http://open.spotify.com/album/2SPuDdCsOzEnHibXmbm7R4 H020 8665 Sammy Hagar Sammy Hagar http://open.spotify.com/album/1oYm3bP7bh485x4zIRYaoH H021 9651 Sammy Hagar A Little Rap & A Lot Of Rock 'n' Roll H022 9652 Sammy Hagar Musical Chairs http://open.spotify.com/album/49SpFHHKRJ7RbzQxyLKmmJ H023 10934 Sammy Hagar Street Machine http://open.spotify.com/album/2vtgIpnAi7RejVcIFfkfQO H024 11386 Sammy Hagar Loud & Clear H025 25533 Hagedorn Miss Construction H026 10566 Nina Hagen Band Nina hagen Band H027 11339 Nina Hagen Band Unbehagen H028 0607 Merle Haggard & The Strangers Mama Tried http://open.spotify.com/album/0f6Gx3lFLqdcY8XSXMKgCm H029 16439 Merle Haggard I'm a Lonesome Fugitive http://open.spotify.com/album/3sWVVl0RzliQSiN5OTRGlM H030 17448 Merla Haggard Swinging Doors http://open.spotify.com/album/7qIHOVBaS2Ih7p9RyDJBqo H031 0608 The Jerry Hahn Quintet The Jerry Hahn Quintet http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/jerry-hahn-his-quintet/id413910976 H032 14605 Paul haig Rhythm Of Life H033 16890 Paul Haig The Warp of Pure Fun http://open.spotify.com/album/5Je2GsphWvVDRKns4VC8f8 H034 10222 Hainult High Drama Workshop Rikky H035 0606 Various Hair http://open.spotify.com/album/1llShsXxqoYFxKEX7JkKBj H036 23726 Hair & Skin Trading Co. Psychedelicische Musique H037 13135 Haircut 100 Pelican West http://open.spotify.com/album/6VIiHu2RCwWo4151YCG7ND H038 25860 Hairy Butter Hairy Butter http://open.spotify.com/album/4mHvGstgJhECjjXfw8VS6D H039 12015 Kenny Hakansson Springlek H040 0609 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock 'n' Roll Stage Show http://open.spotify.com/album/4bmLHl47bv7UIowRxOPrkb H041 0610 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock Around The Clock http://open.spotify.com/album/4bmLHl47bv7UIowRxOPrkb H042 2147 Bill Haley & The Comets In Sweden! H043 2993 Bill Haley The King Of Rock 'n' Roll H044 4551 Bill Haley Live It Up! http://open.spotify.com/album/7ACWeC2udnHSiXvy54dU78 H045 5888 Bill Haley & The Comets Golden Hits H046 10693 Bill Haley Rock The joint! H047 12175 Bill Haley Everyone Can Rock And Roll H048 15803 Bill Haley Hillbilly Haley H049 16416 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock The Joint http://open.spotify.com/album/7wxIZbYpR0JoWjZveVlbA0 H050 22213 Half Life What's Right H051 16765 Half Man Half Biscuit Back in The D.H.S.S. http://open.spotify.com/album/0bRIg7HbYdMzKXMGgPt02i H052 18237 Half Man Half Biscuit Back Again in The D.H.S.S. http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/mcintyre-treadmore-davitt/id300310634 H053 22151 Half Man Half Biscuit McIntyre, Treadmore & Davitt http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/mcintyre-treadmore-davitt/id300310634 H054 22897 Half Man Half Biscuit This Leaden Pall http://open.spotify.com/album/3GvZpZDtQEdvSDZyEGYpRp H055 19497 Half Off The Truth H056 15481 Half Pint Money Man Skank H057 15645 Half Pint In Fine Style H058 15760 Half Pint One In A Million http://open.spotify.com/album/3mwKB8JNy7RN5n2Xbjafs5 H059 07463 Halfbreed Halfbreed H060 21363 Halfway To Eddie's Flesh, Blood & Linoleum http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/flesh-blood-and-linoleum/id385448763 H061 1244 Bob Hall & george Green Jammin' The Boogie H062 2896 Carol Hall If I be Your Lady http://open.spotify.com/album/7zDy0HbZljYIshgBRmgtM2 H063 5360 Darryl Hall & John Oates Abandoned Luncheonette http://open.spotify.com/album/47Dmo9RLpgHMusEiF8luvu H064 6419 Darryl Hall & John Oates War Babies http://open.spotify.com/album/2PivwBASdE6sRnQX9hWNv5 H065 7311 Darryl Hall & John Oates Darryl Hall / John Oates http://open.spotify.com/album/0QVsWpx62HGRHx1Big7BZA H066 8268 Darryl Hall & John Oates Bigger Than Both Of Us http://open.spotify.com/album/5TNzBp7QYsXIHrI5xxVuic H067 8314 Darryl Hall & John Oates Whole Oats http://open.spotify.com/album/0UtB8zWnd5qGNyuoJHflzq H068 9261 Darryl Hall & John Oates Beauty On A Back Street http://open.spotify.com/album/5gbvPY2bEzq8ZnQncoZWon H069 9020 Tony Hall Fieldvole Music H070 24022 Hallucinogen Twisted http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/twisted/id5352394 H071 23509 The Halo benders God Don't Make No Junk http://open.spotify.com/album/49EL5Y71u2hB2P6sXkQjRc H072 21304 Halo Of Flies Singles Going Nowhere H073 23173 Ham Buffalo Virgin H074 13349 Hambi & The Dance Heartache H075 24458 Neil Hamburger America's Funnyman http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/americas-funnyman/id81371203 H076 3603 Claire Hamill Claire Hamill H077 4679 Claire Hamill October http://open.spotify.com/album/6oA1piDUQFc34DI92RFwPy H078 6687 Claire Hamill Stage Door Johnnies H079 7528 Claire Hamill Abracadabra H080 6707 Chico Hamilton The Master http://open.spotify.com/album/1YEm6MEr3yz8r9VOfnWhqj H081 15381 Colbert Hamilton & The Hell Razors Colbert Hamilton & The Hell Razors http://open.spotify.com/album/6qNruyDY1TtJ0AAz09oCtp H082 9977 Dirk Hamilton Meet Me At The Crux http://open.spotify.com/album/6fUFetATohrJvxvsuIsdv0 H083 8215 Hamilton Streetcar Hamilton Streetcar H084 8110 Jan Hammer Group Oh yeah? H085 22661 Hammerhead Ethereal Killer H086 23120 Hammerhead Into The Vortex http://open.spotify.com/album/164ZdT1PTlbE8O0uGuC6Qr H087 24222 Hammerhead Duh, The Big City http://open.spotify.com/album/0Ny5VW4PioCMl46CqeMkm1 H088 7400 Hammersmith Hammersmith H089 3126 Peter Hammill Fool's mate http://open.spotify.com/album/076avU8hLgapKsprCp3B9V H090 4874 Peter Hammill Chameleon in The Shadow Of The Night http://open.spotify.com/album/09HfAoUgqbNrq08FDbYHO2 H091 5577 Peter Hammill The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage http://open.spotify.com/album/6HKPoLwVq89yink317xdFs H092 6177 Peter Hammill In Camera http://open.spotify.com/album/4VZOZhHQRuUY6Se7Ebhc6n H093 6804 Peter Hammill Nadir's Big Chance http://open.spotify.com/album/0BDKAyEOyGkWLNkXIf53S3 H094 8896 Peter Hammill Over http://open.spotify.com/album/3kvJOGLuuWZnbg4rjnuSzq H095 10131 Peter Hammill The Future Now http://open.spotify.com/album/689VLbwUkr5D7YdQLrbKFW H096 10945 Peter Hammill pH7 http://open.spotify.com/album/5gH60KMs0kt5FySdCSut16 H097 11658 Peter Hammill A Black Box http://open.spotify.com/album/1Of1ZRwgykFzi2qKwqpJm0 H098 12418 Peter Hammill Sitting Targets H099 13712 Peter Hammill Enter K H100 14507 Peter Hammill Patience http://open.spotify.com/album/3FvWOVqsRr6H5Bb8SAL9qZ From koogy@... Tue Jun 19 12:00:24 2012 From: koogy@... (koogy@...) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:00:24 +0100 Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: References: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: <35753ff53020825c3b2442f8bc6cd52b.squirrel@...> > Primitive Painters was in the Festive 50 wasn't it? 1985. the first one i ever heard and i must've listened to the tape of the top 20 hundreds of times, so much that i remember all his links. of the felt song he said: "i must admit i was never entirely convinced by that" andy From ford.alan@... Wed Jun 20 07:55:36 2012 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:55:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] TheSpace - Peel Archive - H In-Reply-To: References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Message-ID: More Hall & Oates than HMHB ?? Actually, Abandoned Luncheonette and Hall & Oates are 2 great albums. Alan On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Paul Webster wrote: > ** > > > Here is the list for letter H > > Half-Man Half-Biscuit featured this time > http://thespace.org/items/e0000b24/player > > I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums > sorted by artist - which is the way that they are > filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and > then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) > Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... > but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those > that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_H > > There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. > > ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links > H001 21715 H. C. Anderson Satuja Ja Tarinoita > H002 22403 H. C. Anderson 5 Vuoden Aikaa > H003 19164 H.D.Q. You Suck! > H004 20637 H.D.Q. HDQ > H005 23546 H.Oilers Yo Ho Ho: The Rock 'n' Roll Sailor > H006 23547 H.Oilers The Innocent Catholic Combat Waltz > H007 11630 H.T. Spliff Out Of The Earth's Womb > H008 10302 Joni Haastrup Wake Up Your Mind > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/wake-up-your-mind/id459361107 > H009 16566 Pepe Habichuela A Mandeli > http://open.spotify.com/album/5P9XwuasRB8rG4HKGEQOMY > H010 5666 Hackensack Up The Hard Way > H011 25819 The Hacker Melodies En Sous-Sol > http://open.spotify.com/album/3MJ0kzgQ7AyBYgtCvEIn5h > H012 7465 Steve Hackett Voyage Of The Acolyte > http://open.spotify.com/album/4twSmtePdvfZhSpI2LV5W2 > H013 10676 Steve Hackett Spectral Mornings > http://open.spotify.com/album/3JL21NegF3SeQsuqPdmMNN > H014 17481 Hackney 5-0 Between The Floors > http://open.spotify.com/album/3rHPEeow2bvI8qi7EiP3RR > H015 18626 Hackney 5-0 Three Foot To The Left > http://open.spotify.com/album/1gmLNomC5s372HGeAxhmid > H016 8744 Bob Hadley Tunes From The Well > http://open.spotify.com/album/1nO5S97L8E5DCTAsxS1DKw > H017 8755 Bob Hadley Raven > http://open.spotify.com/album/1vvTQhDRhUhKDeAGu8elNw > H018 15485 The Halfer Trio Bang-An Open Letter > H019 7825 Sammy Hagar Nine On A Ten Scale > http://open.spotify.com/album/2SPuDdCsOzEnHibXmbm7R4 > H020 8665 Sammy Hagar Sammy Hagar > http://open.spotify.com/album/1oYm3bP7bh485x4zIRYaoH > H021 9651 Sammy Hagar A Little Rap & A Lot Of Rock 'n' Roll > H022 9652 Sammy Hagar Musical Chairs > http://open.spotify.com/album/49SpFHHKRJ7RbzQxyLKmmJ > H023 10934 Sammy Hagar Street Machine > http://open.spotify.com/album/2vtgIpnAi7RejVcIFfkfQO > H024 11386 Sammy Hagar Loud & Clear > H025 25533 Hagedorn Miss Construction > H026 10566 Nina Hagen Band Nina hagen Band > H027 11339 Nina Hagen Band Unbehagen > H028 0607 Merle Haggard & The Strangers Mama Tried > http://open.spotify.com/album/0f6Gx3lFLqdcY8XSXMKgCm > H029 16439 Merle Haggard I'm a Lonesome Fugitive > http://open.spotify.com/album/3sWVVl0RzliQSiN5OTRGlM > H030 17448 Merla Haggard Swinging Doors > http://open.spotify.com/album/7qIHOVBaS2Ih7p9RyDJBqo > H031 0608 The Jerry Hahn Quintet The Jerry Hahn Quintet > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/jerry-hahn-his-quintet/id413910976 > H032 14605 Paul haig Rhythm Of Life > H033 16890 Paul Haig The Warp of Pure Fun > http://open.spotify.com/album/5Je2GsphWvVDRKns4VC8f8 > H034 10222 Hainult High Drama Workshop Rikky > H035 0606 Various Hair > http://open.spotify.com/album/1llShsXxqoYFxKEX7JkKBj > H036 23726 Hair & Skin Trading Co. Psychedelicische Musique > H037 13135 Haircut 100 Pelican West > http://open.spotify.com/album/6VIiHu2RCwWo4151YCG7ND > H038 25860 Hairy Butter Hairy Butter > http://open.spotify.com/album/4mHvGstgJhECjjXfw8VS6D > H039 12015 Kenny Hakansson Springlek > H040 0609 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock 'n' Roll Stage Show > http://open.spotify.com/album/4bmLHl47bv7UIowRxOPrkb > H041 0610 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock Around The Clock > http://open.spotify.com/album/4bmLHl47bv7UIowRxOPrkb > H042 2147 Bill Haley & The Comets In Sweden! > H043 2993 Bill Haley The King Of Rock 'n' Roll > H044 4551 Bill Haley Live It Up! > http://open.spotify.com/album/7ACWeC2udnHSiXvy54dU78 > H045 5888 Bill Haley & The Comets Golden Hits > H046 10693 Bill Haley Rock The joint! > H047 12175 Bill Haley Everyone Can Rock And Roll > H048 15803 Bill Haley Hillbilly Haley > H049 16416 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock The Joint > http://open.spotify.com/album/7wxIZbYpR0JoWjZveVlbA0 > H050 22213 Half Life What's Right > H051 16765 Half Man Half Biscuit Back in The D.H.S.S. > http://open.spotify.com/album/0bRIg7HbYdMzKXMGgPt02i > H052 18237 Half Man Half Biscuit Back Again in The D.H.S.S. > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/mcintyre-treadmore-davitt/id300310634 > H053 22151 Half Man Half Biscuit McIntyre, Treadmore & Davitt > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/mcintyre-treadmore-davitt/id300310634 > H054 22897 Half Man Half Biscuit This Leaden Pall > http://open.spotify.com/album/3GvZpZDtQEdvSDZyEGYpRp > H055 19497 Half Off The Truth > H056 15481 Half Pint Money Man Skank > H057 15645 Half Pint In Fine Style > H058 15760 Half Pint One In A Million > http://open.spotify.com/album/3mwKB8JNy7RN5n2Xbjafs5 > H059 07463 Halfbreed Halfbreed > H060 21363 Halfway To Eddie's Flesh, Blood & Linoleum > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/flesh-blood-and-linoleum/id385448763 > H061 1244 Bob Hall & george Green Jammin' The Boogie > H062 2896 Carol Hall If I be Your Lady > http://open.spotify.com/album/7zDy0HbZljYIshgBRmgtM2 > H063 5360 Darryl Hall & John Oates Abandoned Luncheonette > http://open.spotify.com/album/47Dmo9RLpgHMusEiF8luvu > H064 6419 Darryl Hall & John Oates War Babies > http://open.spotify.com/album/2PivwBASdE6sRnQX9hWNv5 > H065 7311 Darryl Hall & John Oates Darryl Hall / John Oates > http://open.spotify.com/album/0QVsWpx62HGRHx1Big7BZA > H066 8268 Darryl Hall & John Oates Bigger Than Both Of Us > http://open.spotify.com/album/5TNzBp7QYsXIHrI5xxVuic > H067 8314 Darryl Hall & John Oates Whole Oats > http://open.spotify.com/album/0UtB8zWnd5qGNyuoJHflzq > H068 9261 Darryl Hall & John Oates Beauty On A Back Street > http://open.spotify.com/album/5gbvPY2bEzq8ZnQncoZWon > H069 9020 Tony Hall Fieldvole Music > H070 24022 Hallucinogen Twisted > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/twisted/id5352394 > H071 23509 The Halo benders God Don't Make No Junk > http://open.spotify.com/album/49EL5Y71u2hB2P6sXkQjRc > H072 21304 Halo Of Flies Singles Going Nowhere > H073 23173 Ham Buffalo Virgin > H074 13349 Hambi & The Dance Heartache > H075 24458 Neil Hamburger America's Funnyman > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/americas-funnyman/id81371203 > H076 3603 Claire Hamill Claire Hamill > H077 4679 Claire Hamill October > http://open.spotify.com/album/6oA1piDUQFc34DI92RFwPy > H078 6687 Claire Hamill Stage Door Johnnies > H079 7528 Claire Hamill Abracadabra > H080 6707 Chico Hamilton The Master > http://open.spotify.com/album/1YEm6MEr3yz8r9VOfnWhqj > H081 15381 Colbert Hamilton & The Hell Razors Colbert Hamilton & The Hell > Razors > http://open.spotify.com/album/6qNruyDY1TtJ0AAz09oCtp > H082 9977 Dirk Hamilton Meet Me At The Crux > http://open.spotify.com/album/6fUFetATohrJvxvsuIsdv0 > H083 8215 Hamilton Streetcar Hamilton Streetcar > H084 8110 Jan Hammer Group Oh yeah? > H085 22661 Hammerhead Ethereal Killer > H086 23120 Hammerhead Into The Vortex > http://open.spotify.com/album/164ZdT1PTlbE8O0uGuC6Qr > H087 24222 Hammerhead Duh, The Big City > http://open.spotify.com/album/0Ny5VW4PioCMl46CqeMkm1 > H088 7400 Hammersmith Hammersmith > H089 3126 Peter Hammill Fool's mate > http://open.spotify.com/album/076avU8hLgapKsprCp3B9V > H090 4874 Peter Hammill Chameleon in The Shadow Of The Night > http://open.spotify.com/album/09HfAoUgqbNrq08FDbYHO2 > H091 5577 Peter Hammill The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage > http://open.spotify.com/album/6HKPoLwVq89yink317xdFs > H092 6177 Peter Hammill In Camera > http://open.spotify.com/album/4VZOZhHQRuUY6Se7Ebhc6n > H093 6804 Peter Hammill Nadir's Big Chance > http://open.spotify.com/album/0BDKAyEOyGkWLNkXIf53S3 > H094 8896 Peter Hammill Over > http://open.spotify.com/album/3kvJOGLuuWZnbg4rjnuSzq > H095 10131 Peter Hammill The Future Now > http://open.spotify.com/album/689VLbwUkr5D7YdQLrbKFW > H096 10945 Peter Hammill pH7 > http://open.spotify.com/album/5gH60KMs0kt5FySdCSut16 > H097 11658 Peter Hammill A Black Box > http://open.spotify.com/album/1Of1ZRwgykFzi2qKwqpJm0 > H098 12418 Peter Hammill Sitting Targets > H099 13712 Peter Hammill Enter K > H100 14507 Peter Hammill Patience > http://open.spotify.com/album/3FvWOVqsRr6H5Bb8SAL9qZ > > From stuartb@... Wed Jun 20 09:33:47 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:33:47 -0000 Subject: And more L's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Roger and they are now all tracklisted (Thanks to Steve SIG for some of these) http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/SL_Tapes_%28tapes%29#L201-L300 Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Finished and uploaded the batch today; L's 216 to 234 now present and hopefully correct at my Mooo page. > The inlay scans should follow in the next few days, > Cheers > Roger > > P.S. Some cracking stuff as always, including a session from Tony Benn on Kershaw's program, and John recalling his encounter with Princess Margaret at a Desert Island Discs event, during which they bonded over being the only two people to have played themselves on the Archers! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > Thanks, Stuart, I'll try to get some more uploaded this week and scan the inlays. > > A heavy workload has slowed progress with this recently, but a big part of that was lifted today, so hopefully i can crack on with it now, > > Cheers > > Roger > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Roger, and here are the Wiki links - > > > L225 contained 84 new minutes of 03 October 1992 > > > and L226 75 minutes of the > > > previously unavailable 06 November 1992 > > > . > > > L227a had 33 new minutes of 07 NOvember 1992 > > > and L227b had 46 minutes > > > of the previously unavailable 31 October 1992 > > > . > > > L228a is 37 minutes of the previously unavailable Berlin show of 10 > > > October 1992 and L228b is > > > an AK show. > > > L229a is another 38 minutes of the Berlin show and L229b another AK > > > show. > > > Most of L230 is AK but at the end of side b there is 7 minutes of the > > > start of the already shared show of 26th September 1992. > > > Finally, L232a starts with 11 minutes of the previously shared 29 > > > December 1991 followed by a new 26 minute segment of 25 January 1992 > > > . (Not 100% sure of the > > > order of the segments but I think I have it right). > > > > > > OK bring on the next batch! (any in the pipeline Rocker?) > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > > > > > > > Uploaded some more to my mooo page ( .../roger): L225 - L230 a/b and > > > L232a. > > > > Again, a mixture of Peel and Kershaw shows, with the odd bit of Radio > > > 3 creeping in - I've spared you the discussion on culinary herbs, but > > > did leave in some other world musicy thing, simply on the grounds that > > > it hands moments that I think Peel and/or Kershaw would have approved > > > of, > > > > Cheers > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jun 20 18:13:56 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:13:56 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor Message-ID: 1) 11 September 1993 (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it was to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for this epochal show almost in full at last. 2) 19 January 1996 (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 (Session: Man Or Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 (Session: Scott Brown) All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. All the bestSteve (TK) From stuartb@... Wed Jun 20 21:33:35 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:33:35 -0000 Subject: More Patestapes Message-ID: Another 6 tapes in the Peel Sessions category! Shambiko! Say Wah! This is a compilation from shows in June 1982, documented on the Wiki . The Wah tracks are a slight mystery, with Papa Crack (sounds like A Crack Is A Crack) followed by a longer version of Papa Crack/God's Lonely Men (which sounds like the track of that name on A Word To The Wise Guy). Any clarifications welcome! Very few JP links. Loudon Wainwright:Mekons This is the first 47 minutes of 30 September 1985 the second 47 minutes having already been shared on the same site. Happy Flowers:Pixies. This is a slightly edited 46 minutes from 26 June 1990 previously unavailable. The show takes place against the backdrop of England's World Cup Quarter Final against Belgium. There is a recording of the Piccadilly Radio Joy Division session from June 1979. And the final two are a couple of Peel Out in The States shows, previously available. Many thanks to Patestapes ! Don't suppose anyone can re-up episodes 21 and 22 of POITS btw? Stuart From stuartb@... Wed Jun 20 21:43:57 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:43:57 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for all these Steve and tapers! I hadn't realised that the Fall session wasn't released commercially and was a bit of a rarity though there was a slightly less clear version of it on the unofficial compilation On The Wireless, part of the 17DVD torrent. Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > 1) 11 September 1993 > (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) > Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it was > to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which > missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for this > epochal show almost in full at last. > 2) 19 January 1996 > (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 > (Session: Man Or > Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 > (Session: Scott Brown) > All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. > All the bestSteve (TK) > From stuartb@... Wed Jun 20 21:50:38 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:50:38 -0000 Subject: Unpunctuated, uncaring grunge LP (9) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve Just noticed the Box 500 show has CB115 CB116 for this show but the WIki page has CB117 CB118. And the latest show for the 11th September 1993 has CB116 CB117 on the wiki page. Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > Hi folks > 3) 10 September 1993 > (Sessions: Orbital, Bratmobile) > Completely new to the catalogue, and all three hours in glorious FM > mono. > Many thanks to all the tapers. Have a great Jubilee week.Steve (TK) > From M.Luetchford@... Wed Jun 20 23:27:25 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:27:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] TheSpace - Peel Archive - H In-Reply-To: References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Message-ID: <1340227645.86429.YahooMailNeo@...> maybe transition to cd responsible - good to see Nina Hagen - one of my quests has been for a vinyl version of  African Reggae - I lost mine on the way. A great track. And Haircut 100 reminds me of one of the great urban myths that Love Plus One was about the Falklands/Malvinas War ... From: Alan Ford To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 6:55 Subject: Re: [peel] TheSpace - Peel Archive - H   More Hall & Oates than HMHB ?? Actually, Abandoned Luncheonette and Hall & Oates are 2 great albums. Alan On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Paul Webster wrote:   >Here is the list for letter H > >Half-Man Half-Biscuit featured this time >http://thespace.org/items/e0000b24/player > >I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are >filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) >Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those >that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki >http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_H > >There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. > >ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links >H001 21715 H. C. Anderson Satuja Ja Tarinoita >H002 22403 H. C. Anderson 5 Vuoden Aikaa >H003 19164 H.D.Q. You Suck! >H004 20637 H.D.Q. HDQ >H005 23546 H.Oilers Yo Ho Ho: The Rock 'n' Roll Sailor >H006 23547 H.Oilers The Innocent Catholic Combat Waltz >H007 11630 H.T. Spliff Out Of The Earth's Womb >H008 10302 Joni Haastrup Wake Up Your Mind http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/wake-up-your-mind/id459361107 >H009 16566 Pepe Habichuela A Mandeli http://open.spotify.com/album/5P9XwuasRB8rG4HKGEQOMY >H010 5666 Hackensack Up The Hard Way >H011 25819 The Hacker Melodies En Sous-Sol http://open.spotify.com/album/3MJ0kzgQ7AyBYgtCvEIn5h >H012 7465 Steve Hackett Voyage Of The Acolyte http://open.spotify.com/album/4twSmtePdvfZhSpI2LV5W2 >H013 10676 Steve Hackett Spectral Mornings http://open.spotify.com/album/3JL21NegF3SeQsuqPdmMNN >H014 17481 Hackney 5-0 Between The Floors http://open.spotify.com/album/3rHPEeow2bvI8qi7EiP3RR >H015 18626 Hackney 5-0 Three Foot To The Left http://open.spotify.com/album/1gmLNomC5s372HGeAxhmid >H016 8744 Bob Hadley Tunes From The Well http://open.spotify.com/album/1nO5S97L8E5DCTAsxS1DKw >H017 8755 Bob Hadley Raven http://open.spotify.com/album/1vvTQhDRhUhKDeAGu8elNw >H018 15485 The Halfer Trio Bang-An Open Letter >H019 7825 Sammy Hagar Nine On A Ten Scale http://open.spotify.com/album/2SPuDdCsOzEnHibXmbm7R4 >H020 8665 Sammy Hagar Sammy Hagar http://open.spotify.com/album/1oYm3bP7bh485x4zIRYaoH >H021 9651 Sammy Hagar A Little Rap & A Lot Of Rock 'n' Roll >H022 9652 Sammy Hagar Musical Chairs http://open.spotify.com/album/49SpFHHKRJ7RbzQxyLKmmJ >H023 10934 Sammy Hagar Street Machine http://open.spotify.com/album/2vtgIpnAi7RejVcIFfkfQO >H024 11386 Sammy Hagar Loud & Clear >H025 25533 Hagedorn Miss Construction >H026 10566 Nina Hagen Band Nina hagen Band >H027 11339 Nina Hagen Band Unbehagen >H028 0607 Merle Haggard & The Strangers Mama Tried http://open.spotify.com/album/0f6Gx3lFLqdcY8XSXMKgCm >H029 16439 Merle Haggard I'm a Lonesome Fugitive http://open.spotify.com/album/3sWVVl0RzliQSiN5OTRGlM >H030 17448 Merla Haggard Swinging Doors http://open.spotify.com/album/7qIHOVBaS2Ih7p9RyDJBqo >H031 0608 The Jerry Hahn Quintet The Jerry Hahn Quintet >http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/jerry-hahn-his-quintet/id413910976 >H032 14605 Paul haig Rhythm Of Life >H033 16890 Paul Haig The Warp of Pure Fun http://open.spotify.com/album/5Je2GsphWvVDRKns4VC8f8 >H034 10222 Hainult High Drama Workshop Rikky >H035 0606 Various Hair http://open.spotify.com/album/1llShsXxqoYFxKEX7JkKBj >H036 23726 Hair & Skin Trading Co. Psychedelicische Musique >H037 13135 Haircut 100 Pelican West http://open.spotify.com/album/6VIiHu2RCwWo4151YCG7ND >H038 25860 Hairy Butter Hairy Butter http://open.spotify.com/album/4mHvGstgJhECjjXfw8VS6D >H039 12015 Kenny Hakansson Springlek >H040 0609 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock 'n' Roll Stage Show http://open.spotify.com/album/4bmLHl47bv7UIowRxOPrkb >H041 0610 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock Around The Clock http://open.spotify.com/album/4bmLHl47bv7UIowRxOPrkb >H042 2147 Bill Haley & The Comets In Sweden! >H043 2993 Bill Haley The King Of Rock 'n' Roll >H044 4551 Bill Haley Live It Up! http://open.spotify.com/album/7ACWeC2udnHSiXvy54dU78 >H045 5888 Bill Haley & The Comets Golden Hits >H046 10693 Bill Haley Rock The joint! >H047 12175 Bill Haley Everyone Can Rock And Roll >H048 15803 Bill Haley Hillbilly Haley >H049 16416 Bill Haley & The Comets Rock The Joint http://open.spotify.com/album/7wxIZbYpR0JoWjZveVlbA0 >H050 22213 Half Life What's Right >H051 16765 Half Man Half Biscuit Back in The D.H.S.S. http://open.spotify.com/album/0bRIg7HbYdMzKXMGgPt02i >H052 18237 Half Man Half Biscuit Back Again in The D.H.S.S. >http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/mcintyre-treadmore-davitt/id300310634 >H053 22151 Half Man Half Biscuit McIntyre, Treadmore & Davitt >http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/mcintyre-treadmore-davitt/id300310634 >H054 22897 Half Man Half Biscuit This Leaden Pall http://open.spotify.com/album/3GvZpZDtQEdvSDZyEGYpRp >H055 19497 Half Off The Truth >H056 15481 Half Pint Money Man Skank >H057 15645 Half Pint In Fine Style >H058 15760 Half Pint One In A Million http://open.spotify.com/album/3mwKB8JNy7RN5n2Xbjafs5 >H059 07463 Halfbreed Halfbreed >H060 21363 Halfway To Eddie's Flesh, Blood & Linoleum >http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/flesh-blood-and-linoleum/id385448763 >H061 1244 Bob Hall & george Green Jammin' The Boogie >H062 2896 Carol Hall If I be Your Lady http://open.spotify.com/album/7zDy0HbZljYIshgBRmgtM2 >H063 5360 Darryl Hall & John Oates Abandoned Luncheonette >http://open.spotify.com/album/47Dmo9RLpgHMusEiF8luvu >H064 6419 Darryl Hall & John Oates War Babies http://open.spotify.com/album/2PivwBASdE6sRnQX9hWNv5 >H065 7311 Darryl Hall & John Oates Darryl Hall / John Oates >http://open.spotify.com/album/0QVsWpx62HGRHx1Big7BZA >H066 8268 Darryl Hall & John Oates Bigger Than Both Of Us >http://open.spotify.com/album/5TNzBp7QYsXIHrI5xxVuic >H067 8314 Darryl Hall & John Oates Whole Oats http://open.spotify.com/album/0UtB8zWnd5qGNyuoJHflzq >H068 9261 Darryl Hall & John Oates Beauty On A Back Street >http://open.spotify.com/album/5gbvPY2bEzq8ZnQncoZWon >H069 9020 Tony Hall Fieldvole Music >H070 24022 Hallucinogen Twisted http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/twisted/id5352394 >H071 23509 The Halo benders God Don't Make No Junk http://open.spotify.com/album/49EL5Y71u2hB2P6sXkQjRc >H072 21304 Halo Of Flies Singles Going Nowhere >H073 23173 Ham Buffalo Virgin >H074 13349 Hambi & The Dance Heartache >H075 24458 Neil Hamburger America's Funnyman http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/americas-funnyman/id81371203 >H076 3603 Claire Hamill Claire Hamill >H077 4679 Claire Hamill October http://open.spotify.com/album/6oA1piDUQFc34DI92RFwPy >H078 6687 Claire Hamill Stage Door Johnnies >H079 7528 Claire Hamill Abracadabra >H080 6707 Chico Hamilton The Master http://open.spotify.com/album/1YEm6MEr3yz8r9VOfnWhqj >H081 15381 Colbert Hamilton & The Hell Razors Colbert Hamilton & The Hell Razors >http://open.spotify.com/album/6qNruyDY1TtJ0AAz09oCtp >H082 9977 Dirk Hamilton Meet Me At The Crux http://open.spotify.com/album/6fUFetATohrJvxvsuIsdv0 >H083 8215 Hamilton Streetcar Hamilton Streetcar >H084 8110 Jan Hammer Group Oh yeah? >H085 22661 Hammerhead Ethereal Killer >H086 23120 Hammerhead Into The Vortex http://open.spotify.com/album/164ZdT1PTlbE8O0uGuC6Qr >H087 24222 Hammerhead Duh, The Big City http://open.spotify.com/album/0Ny5VW4PioCMl46CqeMkm1 >H088 7400 Hammersmith Hammersmith >H089 3126 Peter Hammill Fool's mate http://open.spotify.com/album/076avU8hLgapKsprCp3B9V >H090 4874 Peter Hammill Chameleon in The Shadow Of The Night >http://open.spotify.com/album/09HfAoUgqbNrq08FDbYHO2 >H091 5577 Peter Hammill The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage >http://open.spotify.com/album/6HKPoLwVq89yink317xdFs >H092 6177 Peter Hammill In Camera http://open.spotify.com/album/4VZOZhHQRuUY6Se7Ebhc6n >H093 6804 Peter Hammill Nadir's Big Chance http://open.spotify.com/album/0BDKAyEOyGkWLNkXIf53S3 >H094 8896 Peter Hammill Over http://open.spotify.com/album/3kvJOGLuuWZnbg4rjnuSzq >H095 10131 Peter Hammill The Future Now http://open.spotify.com/album/689VLbwUkr5D7YdQLrbKFW >H096 10945 Peter Hammill pH7 http://open.spotify.com/album/5gH60KMs0kt5FySdCSut16 >H097 11658 Peter Hammill A Black Box http://open.spotify.com/album/1Of1ZRwgykFzi2qKwqpJm0 >H098 12418 Peter Hammill Sitting Targets >H099 13712 Peter Hammill Enter K >H100 14507 Peter Hammill Patience http://open.spotify.com/album/3FvWOVqsRr6H5Bb8SAL9qZ > From rockerq@... Thu Jun 21 00:10:36 2012 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: References: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: <8CF1D48A7413105-CDC-AD0B@...> Of course Primitive Painters featured Elizabeth Frazer on vocals, so he could hardly not play that one, could he! I saw the film in Bristol a few weeks ago, with Lawrence and the filmmaker guy doing a Q & A session afterwards. What came over to me was that Lawrence totally fucked up by sending Peel that stroppy letter like a spoilt child demanding his singles back if Peel wasn't going to play them, then spent the next 2 decades blaming his lack of success on Peelie and others not playing his stuff. I think he didn't even realise it was his own fault until way too late, by which time Peel was dead. He also at one point said, in relation to band members leaving, that a friendship meant nothing to him, if it got in the way of the band becoming successful. Strangely he still managed to come over as incredibly likeable, though. Cheers! Rocker A quick search on the Peel wiki shows that Peel did play Felt several times. The incident in question was around their debut single (which i fairness WAS awful) and the first album (Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty) which Peel apparently said on air -----Original Message----- From: RobF To: peel Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 9:46 am Subject: Re: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content A quick search on the Peel wiki shows that Peel did play Felt several times. The incident in question was around their debut single (which i fairness WAS awful) and the first album (Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty) which Peel apparently said on air was the worst album title he'd ever heard - or words to that effect. Still they never did a session - which, for a UK band on 4AD/Creation/Cherry Red is probably a more solid indicator of whether Peel was a fan or not. Primitive Painters was in the Festive 50 wasn't it? On 19 June 2012 09:09, Ben Harrison wrote: Well that was easy... Felt (in) Smash Hits from http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/smash-hits?before=1337989673 From robfleay@... Thu Jun 21 16:50:55 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:50:55 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not true That Mark Goodier session was released in full on the 2nd disc of the 2006 reissue of The Infotainment Scan On 20 June 2012 20:43, Stuart wrote: > Thanks for all these Steve and tapers! I hadn't realised that the Fall > session wasn't released commercially and was a bit of a rarity though > there was a slightly less clear version of it on the unofficial > compilation On The Wireless, part of the 17DVD torrent. > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" > wrote: > > > > 1) 11 September 1993 > > (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) > > Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it > was > > to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which > > missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for > this > > epochal show almost in full at last. > > 2) 19 January 1996 > > (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 > > (Session: Man Or > > Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 > > (Session: Scott Brown) > > All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. > > All the bestSteve (TK) > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jun 21 19:48:13 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:48:13 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the info, Rob: Wiki duly updated. It was my fault, not Stuart's, so you may whip me naked through the streets of Aberdeen (or maybe Aylesbury's quite far enough). A day of mistakes: thanks too to Stuart for pointing out my errors with regard to file names, and these have also been corrected. Now I'll crawl back in my hole. Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > Not true > > That Mark Goodier session was released in full on the 2nd disc of the 2006 > reissue of The Infotainment Scan > > On 20 June 2012 20:43, Stuart wrote: > > > Thanks for all these Steve and tapers! I hadn't realised that the Fall > > session wasn't released commercially and was a bit of a rarity though > > there was a slightly less clear version of it on the unofficial > > compilation On The Wireless, part of the 17DVD torrent. > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" > > wrote: > > > > > > 1) 11 September 1993 > > > (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) > > > Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it > > was > > > to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which > > > missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for > > this > > > epochal show almost in full at last. > > > 2) 19 January 1996 > > > (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 > > > (Session: Man Or > > > Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 > > > (Session: Scott Brown) > > > All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. > > > All the bestSteve (TK) > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Thu Jun 21 21:36:28 2012 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I should have looked at the wiki page more closely. EDIT Ah I see that it was only updated today with that info! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > Not true > > That Mark Goodier session was released in full on the 2nd disc of the 2006 > reissue of The Infotainment Scan > > On 20 June 2012 20:43, Stuart wrote: > > > Thanks for all these Steve and tapers! I hadn't realised that the Fall > > session wasn't released commercially and was a bit of a rarity though > > there was a slightly less clear version of it on the unofficial > > compilation On The Wireless, part of the 17DVD torrent. > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" > > wrote: > > > > > > 1) 11 September 1993 > > > (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) > > > Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it > > was > > > to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which > > > missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for > > this > > > epochal show almost in full at last. > > > 2) 19 January 1996 > > > (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 > > > (Session: Man Or > > > Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 > > > (Session: Scott Brown) > > > All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. > > > All the bestSteve (TK) > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From M.Luetchford@... Thu Jun 21 23:14:25 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:14:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content In-Reply-To: <8CF1D48A7413105-CDC-AD0B@...> References: <1340091120.72422.YahooMailNeo@...> <8CF1D48A7413105-CDC-AD0B@...> Message-ID: <1340313265.51698.YahooMailNeo@...> I think heavy drugs may have played a part in the irrationality ... ________________________________ From: "rockerq@..." To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 23:10 Subject: Re: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content   Ofcourse Primitive Painters featured Elizabeth Frazer on vocals, so he could hardly not play that one, could he! I saw the film in Bristol a few weeks ago, with Lawrence and the filmmaker guy doing a Q & A session afterwards. What came over to me was that Lawrence totally fucked up by sending Peel that stroppy letter like a spoilt child demanding his singles back if Peel wasn't going to play them, then spent the next 2 decades blaming his lack of success on Peelie and others not playing his stuff. I think he didn't even realise it was his own fault until way too late, by which time Peel was dead. He also at one point said, in relation to band members leaving, that a friendship meant nothing to him, if it got in the way of the band becoming successful. Strangely he still managed to come over as incredibly likeable, though. Cheers! Rocker A quick search on the Peel wiki shows that Peel did play Felt several times. > >The incident in question was around their debut single (which i fairness WAS awful) and the first album (Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty) which Peel apparently said on air -----Original Message----- From: RobF To: peel Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 9:46 am Subject: Re: [peel] Lawrence Of Belgravia - peel content   A quick search on the Peel wiki shows that Peel did play Felt several times. The incident in question was around their debut single (which i fairness WAS awful) and the first album (Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty) which Peel apparently said on air was the worst album title he'd ever heard - or words to that effect. Still they never did a session - which, for a UK band on 4AD/Creation/Cherry Red is probably a more solid indicator of whether Peel was a fan or not. Primitive Painters was in the Festive 50 wasn't it? On 19 June 2012 09:09, Ben Harrison wrote: > > >Well that was easy...  >  > Felt (in) Smash Hits from > > >http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/smash-hits?before=1337989673  > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jun 22 05:28:04 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:28:04 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And while I'm at it, one that slipped through the net: 02 February 1996 (no sessions: Dave Clarke interview and record choice) Best wishesSteve (TK) From eddie.duffy@... Fri Jun 22 14:22:38 2012 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:22:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Johnny Clarke on 6Music In-Reply-To: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: <4FE4638E.7010901@...> Finally, here they are: A Month of Sundays John Cooper Clarke Episode 1 06-05-12.mp3 : http://www.divshare.com/download/18461013-b18 A Month of Sundays John Cooper Clarke Episode 2 13-05-12.mp3 : http://www.divshare.com/download/18461311-331 A Month of Sundays John Cooper Clarke Episode 3 20-05-12.mp3 : http://www.divshare.com/download/18461560-d4d A Month of Sundays John Cooper Clarke Episode 4 27-05-12.mp3 : http://www.divshare.com/download/18461769-5bb Irritatingly, divshare truncates filenames, and won't allow you to rename files once they're uploaded, so the episode numbers and dates are missing from the end. So if you download them and want to keep the proper filenames, copy and paste them from the full names above. Show details, tracklistings, etc: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hbg3d Good shows, though a few too many hoary old ballads or my taste. That "Evidently..." documentary is well worth a look, too, if you can still catch it. Cheers, Eddie. On 08/06/12 00:01, MARK LUETCHFORD wrote: > It would be good if you could as I just looked for something bearing > resemblance to this on iplayer and cant find owt - > > then an earlier reference to watching docu on bbc6 baffled me for a > bit then I dug and found this on bbc4: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jcdbc/Evidently..._John_Cooper_Clarke/ > > You have 3 days - Evidently Chicken Town > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Eddie Duffy > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 2 June 2012, 14:35 > *Subject:* [peel] Re: Johnny Clarke on 6Music > > I grabbed all four of these, and can put them up if you like. Bear > with me though, as I'm in the process of rebuilding my online life > after a frazzled laptop. > > It's worth checking the iPlayer for JCC at the moment, as the Beeb's > been all over him lately. > > Eddie. > > > From postscriptxyz@... Fri Jun 22 15:44:00 2012 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:44:00 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: err...probably shouldn't mention then that the 30 November 1996 show is slightly shorter than advertised. I downloaded it twice to make sure, but it seems to stop at the second news bulletin. Are the last three tracks worth having? Sorry Steve, you seem to be having a bad week. Must be the heatwave I've been reading about in SK. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > Thanks for the info, Rob: Wiki duly updated. It was my fault, not Stuart's, so you may whip me naked through the streets of Aberdeen (or maybe Aylesbury's quite far enough). > > A day of mistakes: thanks too to Stuart for pointing out my errors with regard to file names, and these have also been corrected. Now I'll crawl back in my hole. > > Steve (TK) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > > > Not true > > > > That Mark Goodier session was released in full on the 2nd disc of the 2006 > > reissue of The Infotainment Scan > > > > On 20 June 2012 20:43, Stuart wrote: > > > > > Thanks for all these Steve and tapers! I hadn't realised that the Fall > > > session wasn't released commercially and was a bit of a rarity though > > > there was a slightly less clear version of it on the unofficial > > > compilation On The Wireless, part of the 17DVD torrent. > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > 1) 11 September 1993 > > > > (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) > > > > Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it > > > was > > > > to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which > > > > missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for > > > this > > > > epochal show almost in full at last. > > > > 2) 19 January 1996 > > > > (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 > > > > (Session: Man Or > > > > Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 > > > > (Session: Scott Brown) > > > > All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. > > > > All the bestSteve (TK) From dr_mango2004@... Fri Jun 22 16:21:32 2012 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:21:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Punk Britannia In-Reply-To: <4FE4638E.7010901@...> References: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> <4FE4638E.7010901@...> Message-ID: <1340374892.96421.YahooMailNeo@...> There was a small clip of Peel last week on the third and final episode of "Punk Britannia" on BBC4. Two members of Wire mentioned in an contemporary interview that you couldn't hear "post-punk" music on the radio apart from on Peel's programme. This then cut to a short extract of Peel talking to the Slits. DM From antoniaforestforever@... Fri Jun 22 18:23:20 2012 From: antoniaforestforever@... (februarycallendar) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:23:20 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > And while I'm at it, one that slipped through the net: > 02 February 1996 (no > sessions: Dave Clarke interview and record choice) > Best wishesSteve (TK) Will the 15th March, 5th May and 6th July 1996 shows be forthcoming? They appeared first on the Wiki but seemed to be forgotten after other shows were added. RPC From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jun 22 19:48:34 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:48:34 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi These aren't actually my shows, I'm fielding them for Isector. I'll ask him (if he hasn't seen this message already). Thanks for bringing them to my attention. Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "februarycallendar" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > > > And while I'm at it, one that slipped through the net: > > 02 February 1996 (no > > sessions: Dave Clarke interview and record choice) > > Best wishesSteve (TK) > > Will the 15th March, 5th May and 6th July 1996 shows be forthcoming? They appeared first on the Wiki but seemed to be forgotten after other shows were added. > > RPC > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jun 22 19:53:20 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:53:20 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Pad Good to hear from you again. I'm as confused as you are, because what I've got is what you (and anybody else who downloaded) have/has: same file size, same contents. All I can suggest is that there was either a) a Wiki error (since I didn't write the page, I'll have to check) or b) a source download failure (blame Dropbox). I'll try and get this all cleared up tomorrow. Yes, it's the hottest June on record and we're all praying for rain. Bloody summer. 31-33 degrees daily. Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "postscriptxyz" wrote: > > err...probably shouldn't mention then that the 30 November 1996 show is slightly shorter than advertised. I downloaded it twice to make sure, but it seems to stop at the second news bulletin. Are the last three tracks worth having? > > Sorry Steve, you seem to be having a bad week. Must be the heatwave I've been reading about in SK. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > > > Thanks for the info, Rob: Wiki duly updated. It was my fault, not Stuart's, so you may whip me naked through the streets of Aberdeen (or maybe Aylesbury's quite far enough). > > > > A day of mistakes: thanks too to Stuart for pointing out my errors with regard to file names, and these have also been corrected. Now I'll crawl back in my hole. > > > > Steve (TK) > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > > > > > Not true > > > > > > That Mark Goodier session was released in full on the 2nd disc of the 2006 > > > reissue of The Infotainment Scan > > > > > > On 20 June 2012 20:43, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for all these Steve and tapers! I hadn't realised that the Fall > > > > session wasn't released commercially and was a bit of a rarity though > > > > there was a slightly less clear version of it on the unofficial > > > > compilation On The Wireless, part of the 17DVD torrent. > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 1) 11 September 1993 > > > > > (Sessions: Prince Far I, Fall) > > > > > Parts of this were already on Stuart's September 1993 mixtape and it > > > > was > > > > > to that I returned in order to cover part of a long tape flip which > > > > > missed half of the Fall session: thanks compadre, and to Colin for > > > > this > > > > > epochal show almost in full at last. > > > > > 2) 19 January 1996 > > > > > (Sessions: Bob Tilton, DJ Hell)3) 13 July 1996 > > > > > (Session: Man Or > > > > > Astro-Man?)4) 30 November 1996 > > > > > (Session: Scott Brown) > > > > > All incomplete but previously unavailable: many thanks to Isector. > > > > > All the bestSteve (TK) > From ford.alan@... Fri Jun 22 20:46:09 2012 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:46:09 +0100 Subject: [peel] Punk Britannia In-Reply-To: <1340374892.96421.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> <4FE4638E.7010901@...> <1340374892.96421.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: As I remember it, after the Wire quote there was a random clip of John walking through a studio - then when The Slits were featured there was a very brief clip of 2 members throwing a football to John. In a series about the history of Punk music there was disgustingly little mention of John. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dr Mango wrote: > ** > > > There was a small clip of Peel last week on the third and final episode of > "Punk Britannia" on BBC4. Two members of Wire mentioned in an contemporary > interview that you couldn't hear "post-punk" music on the radio apart from > on Peel's programme. This then cut to a short extract of Peel talking to > the Slits. > > DM > > From davidquantick@... Fri Jun 22 21:21:28 2012 From: davidquantick@... (Davidquantick) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:21:28 +0100 Subject: [peel] Punk Britannia In-Reply-To: References: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> <4FE4638E.7010901@...> <1340374892.96421.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: <695481EB-FEA2-4069-A3EC-CD29BECCF8E2@...> I agree. Peel was the only real outlet for hearing new music and he was written out of this very orthodox, dull and imagination-less series. On 22 Jun 2012, at 19:46, Alan Ford wrote: > As I remember it, after the Wire quote there was a random clip of John walking through a studio - then when The Slits were featured there was a very brief clip of 2 members throwing a football to John. > In a series about the history of Punk music there was disgustingly little mention of John. > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dr Mango wrote: > > There was a small clip of Peel last week on the third and final episode of "Punk Britannia" on BBC4. Two members of Wire mentioned in an contemporary interview that you couldn't hear "post-punk" music on the radio apart from on Peel's programme. This then cut to a short extract of Peel talking to the Slits. > > DM > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Jun 23 03:24:51 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 01:24:51 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > err...probably shouldn't mention then that the 30 November 1996 show is slightly shorter than advertised. I downloaded it twice to make sure, but it seems to stop at the second news bulletin. OK, panic over. Dropbox helpfully allowed me to undelete this, and I have checked and this is indeed the whole thing, as listed on the Wiki. 30 November 1996 (Session: Scott Brown) Apologies for inconvenience caused. I now look forward to some more feedback on my posts....the next time I f*** up. (Seriously, thanks Pad for letting me know.) Steve (TK) From postscriptxyz@... Sat Jun 23 04:29:16 2012 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 02:29:16 -0000 Subject: Four On The Floor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Steve, much appreciated. And to answer my own question, the missing two and a bit tracks are worth having, particularly JP's botched link between tracks 2 and 3 ... how I miss them. Pad --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "so_it_goes_2512" wrote: > > > err...probably shouldn't mention then that the 30 November 1996 show > is slightly shorter than advertised. I downloaded it twice to make sure, > but it seems to stop at the second news bulletin. > > OK, panic over. Dropbox helpfully allowed me to undelete this, and I > have checked and this is indeed the whole thing, as listed on the Wiki. > 30 November 1996 > (Session: Scott Brown) > Apologies for inconvenience caused. I now look forward to some more > feedback on my posts....the next time I f*** up. (Seriously, thanks Pad > for letting me know.) > Steve (TK) > From dr_mango2004@... Sat Jun 23 15:15:31 2012 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:15:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Punk Britannia In-Reply-To: <695481EB-FEA2-4069-A3EC-CD29BECCF8E2@...> References: <1339110111.54770.YahooMailNeo@...> <4FE4638E.7010901@...> <1340374892.96421.YahooMailNeo@...> <695481EB-FEA2-4069-A3EC-CD29BECCF8E2@...> Message-ID: <1340457331.45862.YahooMailNeo@...> Everytime they referred to "THE Buzzcocks" I yelled at the TV. ________________________________ From: Davidquantick To: "peel@yahoogroups.com" Cc: "peel@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 20:21 Subject: Re: [peel] Punk Britannia   I agree. Peel was the only real outlet for hearing new music and he was written out of this very orthodox, dull and imagination-less series. On 22 Jun 2012, at 19:46, Alan Ford wrote:   >As I remember it, after the Wire quote there was a random clip of John walking through a studio - then when The Slits were featured there was a very brief clip of 2 members throwing a football to John. >In a series about the history of Punk music there was disgustingly little mention of John. > > > >On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dr Mango wrote: > > >>  >>There was a small clip of Peel last week on the third and final episode of "Punk Britannia" on BBC4. Two members of Wire mentioned in an contemporary interview that you couldn't hear "post-punk" music on the radio apart from on Peel's programme. This then cut to a short extract of Peel talking to the Slits. >> >>DM >> > From saipanda@... Sun Jun 24 06:29:33 2012 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 04:29:33 -0000 Subject: top ten albums of 1974 / twitter / thanks Message-ID: Hi folks, Came across a list of Peel's top ten albums of 1974: http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ Incidentally, alerted to this by a post on Twitter. Two points: 1. The guy asked if anyone else had similar Peel lists (not Festive Fifties) from other years. Anyone here got any? Would be good to get them up on the wiki. 2. I know people have mixed feelings about Twitter. I'm not on it myself, but find it quite useful as a news source on Peel. There's a Twitter feed on the wiki front page that compiles results for assorted Peel-related people and sites. Some interesting stuff among the chit-chat. The full URL (if anyone wants to bookmark it): http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ Finally, would like to thank everyone for all the recent shares and contributions here--you know who you are. In particular, many thanks to Paul Webster for also posting the lists of LPs from Peel's collection on the wiki. Cheers, SW From thebarguest@... Sun Jun 24 12:16:18 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:16:18 -0000 Subject: top ten albums of 1974 / twitter / thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Velly inter-lesting. Always knew he liked BJH but not that much. Three of my fave bands in there : BJH, Be Bop Deluxe and Sparks (pity the latter never did a sesh). Of course, Eno, Be Bop and Sparks were big influences on the 77-82 new-wave scene. Would like to see these lists for other years ... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Came across a list of Peel's top ten albums of 1974: > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > Incidentally, alerted to this by a post on Twitter. Two points: > > 1. The guy asked if anyone else had similar Peel lists (not Festive Fifties) from other years. Anyone here got any? Would be good to get them up on the wiki. > > 2. I know people have mixed feelings about Twitter. I'm not on it myself, but find it quite useful as a news source on Peel. There's a Twitter feed on the wiki front page that compiles results for assorted Peel-related people and sites. Some interesting stuff among the chit-chat. The full URL (if anyone wants to bookmark it): > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > Finally, would like to thank everyone for all the recent shares and contributions here--you know who you are. In particular, many thanks to Paul Webster for also posting the lists of LPs from Peel's collection on the wiki. > > Cheers, > > SW > From saipanda@... Sun Jun 24 13:04:20 2012 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:04:20 -0000 Subject: top ten albums of 1974 / twitter / thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, the BJH thing a bit of a mystery to me too. Pretty sure there's a few albums of the year for 1975 in one of the columns reprinted in Olvetti Chronicles. Will check it out later (supposed to be catching up with work right now). SW --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > Velly inter-lesting. Always knew he liked BJH but not that much. Three of my fave bands in there : BJH, Be Bop Deluxe and Sparks (pity the latter never did a sesh). Of course, Eno, Be Bop and Sparks were big influences on the 77-82 new-wave scene. Would like to see these lists for other years ... > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Came across a list of Peel's top ten albums of 1974: > > > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > > > Incidentally, alerted to this by a post on Twitter. Two points: > > > > 1. The guy asked if anyone else had similar Peel lists (not Festive Fifties) from other years. Anyone here got any? Would be good to get them up on the wiki. > > > > 2. I know people have mixed feelings about Twitter. I'm not on it myself, but find it quite useful as a news source on Peel. There's a Twitter feed on the wiki front page that compiles results for assorted Peel-related people and sites. Some interesting stuff among the chit-chat. The full URL (if anyone wants to bookmark it): > > > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > > > Finally, would like to thank everyone for all the recent shares and contributions here--you know who you are. In particular, many thanks to Paul Webster for also posting the lists of LPs from Peel's collection on the wiki. > > > > Cheers, > > > > SW > > > From thebarguest@... Sun Jun 24 13:30:38 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:30:38 -0000 Subject: top ten albums of 1974 / twitter / thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peely was the main champion of BJH right at the start (now where have I heard a phrase like that before), playing their first single in 1968. That 1974 BJH album is very good / one of their best, with a great title "Everyone Is Everybody Else" - how true ! And it wasn't just typical prog, John Lees' songwriting often concerned social injustices ... Thanks for the Olivetti tip - I've got the tome, will check ... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > Yeah, the BJH thing a bit of a mystery to me too. > > Pretty sure there's a few albums of the year for 1975 in one of the columns reprinted in Olvetti Chronicles. Will check it out later (supposed to be catching up with work right now). > > SW > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > Velly inter-lesting. Always knew he liked BJH but not that much. Three of my fave bands in there : BJH, Be Bop Deluxe and Sparks (pity the latter never did a sesh). Of course, Eno, Be Bop and Sparks were big influences on the 77-82 new-wave scene. Would like to see these lists for other years ... > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > Came across a list of Peel's top ten albums of 1974: > > > > > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > > > > > Incidentally, alerted to this by a post on Twitter. Two points: > > > > > > 1. The guy asked if anyone else had similar Peel lists (not Festive Fifties) from other years. Anyone here got any? Would be good to get them up on the wiki. > > > > > > 2. I know people have mixed feelings about Twitter. I'm not on it myself, but find it quite useful as a news source on Peel. There's a Twitter feed on the wiki front page that compiles results for assorted Peel-related people and sites. Some interesting stuff among the chit-chat. The full URL (if anyone wants to bookmark it): > > > > > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > > > > > Finally, would like to thank everyone for all the recent shares and contributions here--you know who you are. In particular, many thanks to Paul Webster for also posting the lists of LPs from Peel's collection on the wiki. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > SW > > > > > > From stuart@... Sun Jun 24 16:52:11 2012 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:52:11 +0100 Subject: top ten albums of 1974 / twitter / thanks In-Reply-To: <1340539822.422.22866.m7@yahoogroups.com> References: <1340539822.422.22866.m7@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: I may have misunderstood the point of the record collection thing, but surely if they're listing the first hundred, alphabetically, we're going to see HAlf Man, HAmmill, HArvest - 10 of each and there's no room for, say, Gerry and the HOlograms or HUndred Yard Stare (on that note, surely BJH should be filed under 'B'?) Plus, while John gave away stuff in competitions etc, I always got the impression that he kept pretty much everything that he got - whether nought, or more likely, promos from record labels. So the collection wouldn't necessarily reflect his actual favourites, just stuff that was deemed interesting or important enough to get a spin or 2 on the radio? S > Yeah, the BJH thing a bit of a mystery to me too. > > Peely was the main champion of BJH right at the start (now where > have I heard a phrase like that before), playing their first single > in 1968. That 1974 BJH album is very good / one of their best, with > a great title "Everyone Is Everybody Else" - how true ! And it > wasn't just typical prog, John Lees' songwriting often concerned > social injustices ... Thanks for the Olivetti tip - I've got the > tome, will check ... > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: >> >> Yeah, the BJH thing a bit of a mystery to me too. >> >> Pretty sure there's a few albums of the year for 1975 in one of the >> columns reprinted in Olvetti Chronicles. Will check it out later >> (supposed to be catching up with work right now). >> >> SW From troche2255@... Mon Jun 25 17:48:52 2012 From: troche2255@... (Tom Roche) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:48:52 -0400 Subject: Four On The Floor Message-ID: As I always like to point out whenever Prince Far I gets a mention on this list, I still clearly recall a BBCWS continuity announcer years ago plugging Peelie's shortwave show by promising music from "Prince Far The First." Tom in Atlanta ps.. and may I again plug my show, late Tuesdays at midnight UK time, at 1690wmlb.com... trying to carry on JPs spirit From saipanda@... Tue Jun 26 08:07:42 2012 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:07:42 -0000 Subject: top ten albums of 1974 / twitter / thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In case anyone was wondering, here's Peel's 1975 choices: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1975_Records_Of_The_Year On Stuart's points about the Record Collection - yeah, having only the first 100 LPs of each letter might give a false impression of what he "liked" and leave out all kinds of artists that were real favorites, but the current 100 per week is only seen as the first step in getting the whole lot up and at least it's a start. And someone pointed out before, 100 a week gives you 2,600 LPs, around 10 percent of the total, after six months. Think what's really interesting are the unexpected things: -"Guilty pleasures" (six Sheena Easton LPs perhaps excessive); -Crazy covers and checking out things you've never heard of before (unfortunately, no Spotify where I am); -Reminders about stuff you had forgotten about; -The star ratings for individual tracks; -Letters and other stuff kept inside the sleeves. These are posted by johnpeelarchive on Flickr and Google+: http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpeelarchive/sets/). As well as just seeing how many, if any, you have yourself, on a regular weekly basis. Outside the records themselves, the weekly films on a featured artist are pretty cool as well. Also, nice Hidden Gems blogs on one record a week at JPCCA: http://www.johnpeelcentreforcreativearts.co.uk/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=3&Itemid=76 Seems a fun thing to me anyway and a good tribute. Hope they get new funding after the six months are up. Not sure why Barclay James Harvest is under H, though. SW --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > Peely was the main champion of BJH right at the start (now where have I heard a phrase like that before), playing their first single in 1968. That 1974 BJH album is very good / one of their best, with a great title "Everyone Is Everybody Else" - how true ! And it wasn't just typical prog, John Lees' songwriting often concerned social injustices ... Thanks for the Olivetti tip - I've got the tome, will check ... > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > > > Yeah, the BJH thing a bit of a mystery to me too. > > > > Pretty sure there's a few albums of the year for 1975 in one of the columns reprinted in Olvetti Chronicles. Will check it out later (supposed to be catching up with work right now). > > > > SW > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > Velly inter-lesting. Always knew he liked BJH but not that much. Three of my fave bands in there : BJH, Be Bop Deluxe and Sparks (pity the latter never did a sesh). Of course, Eno, Be Bop and Sparks were big influences on the 77-82 new-wave scene. Would like to see these lists for other years ... > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > Came across a list of Peel's top ten albums of 1974: > > > > > > > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > > > > > > > Incidentally, alerted to this by a post on Twitter. Two points: > > > > > > > > 1. The guy asked if anyone else had similar Peel lists (not Festive Fifties) from other years. Anyone here got any? Would be good to get them up on the wiki. > > > > > > > > 2. I know people have mixed feelings about Twitter. I'm not on it myself, but find it quite useful as a news source on Peel. There's a Twitter feed on the wiki front page that compiles results for assorted Peel-related people and sites. Some interesting stuff among the chit-chat. The full URL (if anyone wants to bookmark it): > > > > > > > > http://peterreavy.com/2012/06/23/john-peels-albums-of-the-year-1974/ > > > > > > > > Finally, would like to thank everyone for all the recent shares and contributions here--you know who you are. In particular, many thanks to Paul Webster for also posting the lists of LPs from Peel's collection on the wiki. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > SW > > > > > > > > > > From paul@... Tue Jun 26 08:37:45 2012 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:37:45 +0100 Subject: TheSpace - Peel Archive - I In-Reply-To: References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Message-ID: Here is the list for letter I Featured this week ... In The Nursery http://thespace.org/items/e0000bwu/player "D'ye ken John Peel with his voice so grey? He sounds as if he's far far away; He sends you to sleep at the end of the day; 'til you're woken up by Tony Blackburn in the morning." Oddie B I've included the position on the shelf (this is the first 100 albums sorted by artist - which is the way that they are filed on Peel's shelves), the Peel card index number, artist, album - and then some links (Spotify, iTunes, Discogs) Yahoo is sure to make a mess of some of this when it wraps the lines ... but it is TAB delimited - so easy for those that want to import it into a spreadsheet. I've already put it in the wiki http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Record_Collection:_I There will be 100 a week - each starting with next letter in the alphabet. ShelfPos Index Artist Album Links Video I001 25936 I Am Kloot Natural History http://open.spotify.com/album/7dH01bjP4oP0eahxuJF5kf I002 26651 I Am Kloot I Am Kloot http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/i-am-kloot/id122073404 I003 18982 I. D. Under The Lords Of Nothing I004 20370 I. D. Under Genericide I005 25101 I-F I-F Fucking Consumer http://open.spotify.com/album/5khaN0aNflu4T5Wt9gPVAw I006 25243 I-F The Man From P.A.C.K. http://open.spotify.com/album/3fC486jBVS5TjQwQ9tYRKx I007 14390 I-Level I-Level I008 18895 I, Ludicrous It's Like Everything Else I009 20929 I, Ludicrous A Warning To The Curious I010 18772 I Spit On Your Gravy Fruit Loop City I011 18012 I Start Counting My Translucent Hands http://open.spotify.com/album/5okdtEmlKpVQYM2KcIo1iq I012 20663 I Start Counting Fused http://open.spotify.com/album/3YcVlr7peJOz12IHls5efr I013 12284 Ian & The Muscletones Human Sacrifice I014 7910 Ian & The Zodiacs Ian & The Zodiacs I015 25903 Ian & The Zodiacs Gear Again I016 0725 Janis Ian Janis Ian I017 3048 Janis Ian Present Company I018 6193 Janis Ian Stars http://open.spotify.com/album/5qiBlVdR5jTjXwxM12a6k4 I019 23735 Ibinhurux Eeee My Name Is John Flash I020 13706 Icarus State Of Mind I021 26071 The Icarus Line Mono I022 21436 Ice Cube AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/amerikkkas-most-wanted/id14835273 I023 22244 Ice Cube Death Certificate http://open.spotify.com/album/0VoorTgcwMRROTmmZlxPSG I024 20857 Ice-T The Iceberg / Freedom Of Speech etc http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/iceberg-freedom-speech.../id357897304 I025 9915 The Icebreakers Planet Mars Dub http://open.spotify.com/album/0jHzifN2aY45gPfy1WYYZ3 I026 12424 Icehouse Flowers I027 14300 Die Ichs Die Ich's I028 15029 The Icicle Works The Icicle Works http://open.spotify.com/album/3MYJdrPVx7c6wtZvALINK5 I029 16686 The Icicle Works The Small Price Of A Bicycle http://open.spotify.com/album/3QLmtLFg6MZKHIOVTrgzHr I030 18351 The Icicle Works If You Want To Defeat Your Enemy Sing His Song http://open.spotify.com/album/3fl5HJ7QAgq9BqABQ9x3Fq I031 22755 The Icky Boyfriends I'm Not Fascinating I032 21960 Icky Joey Pooh http://open.spotify.com/album/7M73YDGZ85f0IfUHUtQb9m I033 15335 Icons Of Filth Onward Christian Soldiers http://open.spotify.com/album/4taYhvbqjCruvQscbnz8iA I034 12282 Ideal Ideal http://open.spotify.com/album/1Xsccmy1D3oF4mTLtlDPBC I035 13139 Ideal Der Ernst Des Lebens http://open.spotify.com/album/4rk13Dy0XoU9DdRkpxvuMx I036 2404 Ides Of March Vehicle http://open.spotify.com/album/23mdYErK9fS7hxWuFBGUob I037 16156 The Idiots They Call Us... I038 0726 Idle Race Birthday Party I039 1752 Idle Race Idle Race I040 16812 The Idle Race Light At The End Of The Road I041 2308 If If I042 2672 If If 2 I043 3184 If If 3 I044 3787 If If 4 I045 6730 If Teabreak Over - Back On Your 'Eads I046 2207 Igginbottom's Wrench Igginbottom http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/iggonbottoms-wrench/id87332776 I047 3713 Iguana Iguana http://open.spotify.com/album/5Dar2R1X1iNTCzF7C5rac4 I048 1816 Ijahman Haile I Hymn (Chapter 1) http://open.spotify.com/album/678mmLP9fJCdTN4JMZkXM3 I049 13305 Ijahman Levi Tell It To The Children http://open.spotify.com/album/31r7VJps2hn6rZ09VAw1ro I050 15490 Ijahman Levi Africa I051 13659 Ike Yard A Second I052 19885 Ikhwani Safaa Musical Club 'The Music Of Zanzibar' 2 I053 18213 The Ikettes Fine, Fine, Fine I054 19448 Ilanga Visions Foretold I055 12729 I'm So Hollow Emotion/Sound/Motion I056 15837 Imaginations Soarin' High I057 25532 Immense Evil Ones & Zeroes http://open.spotify.com/album/5CG79UEkBSlrobaCDUN29f I058 24961 Immersion Purge I059 26450 The Immortal Lee County Killers Love Is A Charm Of Powerful Trouble I060 8106 Impact Impact I061 21399 Impact Threat I062 23631 Impala Kings Of The Strip http://open.spotify.com/album/2OxwB3agsRNFPEfQOx6hzl I063 22995 Impaled Nazarene Tol Cormpt Norz Norz Norz http://open.spotify.com/album/51ufC7ebguYC9W3Efrzmt1 I064 19875 Impatient Youth Don't Listen I065 0728 The Impressions This Is My Country http://open.spotify.com/album/1kKPH6oqlh9iPP3uAQhb68 I066 2526 Impressions Amen I067 6337 Impressions Finally Got Myself Together http://open.spotify.com/album/62KlgIw0M53UiV1WmTXR96 I068 7112 Impressions First Impressions http://open.spotify.com/album/6YZ5RIgoIiGUntI4dyZiSS I069 7764 Impressions Loving Power I070 8490 Impressions For Your Previous Love I071 14592 The Impressions It All Right I072 14702 The Impressions Right On Time I073 14793 Impressions People Get Ready http://open.spotify.com/album/0IBviUhvrtG8MFePtB96Bs I074 18985 Impulse Manslaughter He Who Laughs Last...Laughs Alone http://open.spotify.com/album/2iiAUsG0OFUqzQFzZuymOo I075 20487 Impulse Manslaughter Logical End http://open.spotify.com/album/2iiAUsG0OFUqzQFzZuymOo I076 0729 Imrat Kahn Music from India Series - 10 I077 1080 I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAudiobook?id=207499058&s=143444 I078 10388 I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again 2 http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAudiobook?id=208294591&s=143444 I079 22579 In Dust Nosebleed I080 13741 In Embrace Passion Fruit/Pastels I081 14652 In Embrace Too I082 17425 In Embrace Wanderlust 1982-1984 I083 17147 In Excelsis Prey I084 24929 The In Out Cosmosis I085 14355 In The Nursery When Cherished Dreams Come True I086 17805 In The Nursery Twins I087 18651 In The Nursery Stormhorse I088 17729 Th' Inbred A Family Affair I089 16000 Inca Babies Rumble I090 17742 Inca Babies This Train I091 18731 Inca Babies Opium Den I092 24071 Inca Eyeball He Has A Brain The Size Of A Fifty Pence I093 19923 Incorporated Thang Band Lifestyles Of The Roach & Famous I094 14154 The Incredible Casuals Let's Go! I095 18389 The Incredible Casuals That's That http://open.spotify.com/album/2qr65euKCKVVoCwsyEFSp2 I096 24823 Incredible Force Of Junior Let The World Fall Apart I097 4997 Incredible Hog Volume 1 http://open.spotify.com/album/0s80xuT55a2tcGuBJC17F3 I098 0730 Incredible String Band The Incredible String Band http://open.spotify.com/album/0jrTadRWLIYY2sRp2HA2KU I099 0731 Incredible String Band The 500 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion http://open.spotify.com/album/3htu0UsV5JuouSfugMHNgS I100 0732 Incredible String Band The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter http://open.spotify.com/album/168tPkaBJZKYxSrWDo4n1h Paul From jklm@... Tue Jun 26 16:04:52 2012 From: jklm@... (jake) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:04:52 -0000 Subject: John Peel Fanzine Interview - 1984 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for posting this - I have the same issue of BBB and as far as I know it dates from 1985. I've got a box full of old fanzines from the 1980s at home and seeing your stuff on Flickr inspired me to sort through them and start scanning all the covers as you have done, which brought back some nice memories.... I've got 3 with John Peel interviews: "The End" #5 (1982) "Cool Notes" #7 (1983) "Baby Bites Back" #1 (1985) I also discovered that there's a fanzine wiki (http://zinewiki.com/), although most of the ones I've got aren't in it.... Cheers Jake --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "fruitierthanthou" wrote: > > I was digging around looking for something else, when I found this John Peel interview in Eleanor Linwood's BABY BITES BACK fanzine.. I reckon this is around late summer / autumn 1984.. > > I though you guys would like to see.. I have scanned in here: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fruitier_than_thou/sets/72157630183516940/ > > Dave FTT > From saipanda@... Tue Jun 26 17:54:51 2012 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:54:51 -0000 Subject: John Peel Fanzine Interview - 1984 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, really great to read the interview. Many thanks for sharing it. Jake, any chance you could put the two other interviews you have up on Flickr or similar and share the links? Cheers, SW --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "jake" wrote: > > Thanks for posting this - I have the same issue of BBB and as far as I know it dates from 1985. I've got a box full of old fanzines from the 1980s at home and seeing your stuff on Flickr inspired me to sort through them and start scanning all the covers as you have done, which brought back some nice memories.... > > I've got 3 with John Peel interviews: > > "The End" #5 (1982) > "Cool Notes" #7 (1983) > "Baby Bites Back" #1 (1985) > > I also discovered that there's a fanzine wiki (http://zinewiki.com/), although most of the ones I've got aren't in it.... > > Cheers > > Jake > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "fruitierthanthou" wrote: > > > > I was digging around looking for something else, when I found this John Peel interview in Eleanor Linwood's BABY BITES BACK fanzine.. I reckon this is around late summer / autumn 1984.. > > > > I though you guys would like to see.. I have scanned in here: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fruitier_than_thou/sets/72157630183516940/ > > > > Dave FTT > > > From robfleay@... Tue Jun 26 21:52:24 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:52:24 +0100 Subject: New L Tape Upload Message-ID: A timely poke from our resident tape co-ordinator reminded me I still had an unfinished batch of Lowman tapes Here's the first 89 minutes of Saturday 30th November 1991 http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_November_1991 The wiki already has the last section of this show so this should be most of it completed now. Sessions from Barbel & Stereolab Hopefully someone can do the honours and update the wiki from the inlay scan Audio: http://www.mediafire.com/?aiacy16c92gbk3m Inlay: http://www.mediafire.com/?z2n333tb1bc6tqp From robfleay@... Tue Jun 26 22:13:02 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:13:02 +0100 Subject: New L Tape Upload In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And another shorter one - but it looks like this one exists already in a longer form. I've not compared audio quality with the existing file http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/15_December_1991 Ivor Cutler & House Of Love in session, This tape starts with Unsane - Cracked Up and ends with Ivor Cutler - What A Mistake Audio: http://www.mediafire.com/?g98xr57iairu282 Inlay: http://www.mediafire.com/i/?n348wxyolzswnt5 On 26 June 2012 20:52, RobF wrote: > A timely poke from our resident tape co-ordinator reminded me I still had > an unfinished batch of Lowman tapes > > Here's the first > 89 minutes of Saturday 30th November 1991 > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_November_1991 > The wiki already has the last section of this show so this should be most > of it completed now. > Sessions from Barbel & Stereolab > > Hopefully someone can do the honours and update the wiki from the inlay > scan > Audio: > http://www.mediafire.com/?aiacy16c92gbk3m > > Inlay: > http://www.mediafire.com/?z2n333tb1bc6tqp > > > > From ddriscoll@... Tue Jun 26 23:34:14 2012 From: ddriscoll@... (Dave Driscoll) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:34:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] John Peel Fanzine Interview - 1984 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F1692B2-6EAC-4569-9102-0EFA051BD738@...> I know what you mean Jake.. I have loads of old stuff I haven't sorted out yet.. Funny thing about fanzines is, you can never find the ones you are looking for, when you are looking.. One of my favourites was called "TRENDY HENRY".. It used to have one word live reviews. Now it would be very easy just to list "Bollocks.." or "Fantastic.." but they were usually bang on the money I remember one review… THE COCTEAU TWINS - University of London 13th December (1983) "Screeechy!!!" I was at that gig, & indeed THE COCTEAU TWINS were "Screeechy!!!" On 26 Jun 2012, at 15:04, jake wrote: > Thanks for posting this - I have the same issue of BBB and as far as I know it dates from 1985. I've got a box full of old fanzines from the 1980s at home and seeing your stuff on Flickr inspired me to sort through them and start scanning all the covers as you have done, which brought back some nice memories.... > > I've got 3 with John Peel interviews: > > "The End" #5 (1982) > "Cool Notes" #7 (1983) > "Baby Bites Back" #1 (1985) > > I also discovered that there's a fanzine wiki (http://zinewiki.com/), although most of the ones I've got aren't in it.... > > Cheers > > Jake > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "fruitierthanthou" wrote: > > > > I was digging around looking for something else, when I found this John Peel interview in Eleanor Linwood's BABY BITES BACK fanzine.. I reckon this is around late summer / autumn 1984.. > > > > I though you guys would like to see.. I have scanned in here: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fruitier_than_thou/sets/72157630183516940/ > > > > Dave FTT > > > > From jklm@... Wed Jun 27 02:57:27 2012 From: jklm@... (jake) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 00:57:27 -0000 Subject: John Peel Fanzine Interview - 1984 In-Reply-To: <2F1692B2-6EAC-4569-9102-0EFA051BD738@...> Message-ID: I saw them in Liverpool in 1984 and they were pretty screechy then too.... :) I'm about half way through scanning the fanzine covers and I've rediscovered lots of cool stuff I forgot I had in the process (flexi discs etc) so I'll be sharing it all on Flickr fairly soon.... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stillunusual/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dave Driscoll wrote: > > > I know what you mean Jake.. > I have loads of old stuff I haven't sorted out yet.. > Funny thing about fanzines is, you can never find the ones you are looking for, when you are looking.. > One of my favourites was called "TRENDY HENRY".. > It used to have one word live reviews. > Now it would be very easy just to list "Bollocks.." or "Fantastic.." but they were usually bang on the money > I remember one review > THE COCTEAU TWINS - University of London 13th December (1983) > "Screeechy!!!" > I was at that gig, & indeed THE COCTEAU TWINS were "Screeechy!!!" > From jklm@... Wed Jun 27 03:02:32 2012 From: jklm@... (jake) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 01:02:32 -0000 Subject: John Peel Fanzine Interview - 1984 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Haven't scanned them yet but I'll definitely do that - the interview in "The End" is particularly good.... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "steve" wrote: > > Yeah, really great to read the interview. Many thanks for sharing it. > > Jake, any chance you could put the two other interviews you have up on Flickr or similar and share the links? > > Cheers, > > SW > From koogy@... Wed Jun 27 11:22:48 2012 From: koogy@... (koogy@...) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:22:48 +0100 Subject: [peel] TheSpace - Peel Archive - I In-Reply-To: References: <1335919842.12502.YahooMailNeo@...> <9vt3r79vnr980k7251qoecpsrku5e61c6o@...> <83p7s71b69ddc73cavqa2mjgl83pv9s2aj@...> <399ht7tofbc95vok9rn964btiupn1jnjvr@...> Message-ID: gizmodo is currently running a little behind the scenes article about the Peel Archive project http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/06/inside-the-project-to-immortalise-john-peels-record-collection/ andy From zomgqashiyo@... Wed Jun 27 16:30:33 2012 From: zomgqashiyo@... (drugogoputiyanevedal) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:33 -0000 Subject: How have we despised your name? Message-ID: Malachi 1 7 By offering polluted food upon my altar. But you say, 'How have we polluted you?' By saying that the LORD's table may be despised. 8 When you offer blind animals in sacrifice, is that not evil? And when you offer those that are lame or sick, is that not evil? Present that to your governor; will he accept you or show you favor? says the LORD of hosts. 9 And now entreat the favor of God, that he may be gracious to us. With such a gift from your hand, will he show favor to any of you? says the LORD of hosts. 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. Matthew 12 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. And if I am a master, where is my fear? From zomgqashiyo@... Wed Jun 27 16:20:32 2012 From: zomgqashiyo@... (drugogoputiyanevedal) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:20:32 -0000 Subject: How have we despised your name? Message-ID: Malachi 1 7 By offering polluted food upon my altar. But you say, 'How have we polluted you?' By saying that the LORD's table may be despised. 8 When you offer blind animals in sacrifice, is that not evil? And when you offer those that are lame or sick, is that not evil? Present that to your governor; will he accept you or show you favor? says the LORD of hosts. 9 And now entreat the favor of God, that he may be gracious to us. With such a gift from your hand, will he show favor to any of you? says the LORD of hosts. 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. Matthew 12 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. And if I am a master, where is my fear? From robfleay@... Wed Jun 27 16:57:19 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:57:19 +0100 Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 June 2012 15:20, drugogoputiyanevedal wrote: > > > And if I am a master, where is my fear? > > Have you checked down the back of the sofa? From billfromnorthwales@... Wed Jun 27 17:36:53 2012 From: billfromnorthwales@... (billfromnorthwales) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:36:53 -0000 Subject: How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not me, I ordered chicken-in-a-basket See those pills you've taken,they're for horses. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "drugogoputiyanevedal" wrote: > > Malachi 1 > 7 By offering polluted food upon my altar. But you say, 'How have we polluted you?' By saying that the LORD's table may be despised. > 8 When you offer blind animals in sacrifice, is that not evil? And when you offer those that are lame or sick, is that not evil? Present that to your governor; will he accept you or show you favor? says the LORD of hosts. > 9 And now entreat the favor of God, that he may be gracious to us. With such a gift from your hand, will he show favor to any of you? says the LORD of hosts. > 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. > Matthew 12 > 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. > 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. > 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. > > And if I am a master, where is my fear? > From M.Luetchford@... Thu Jun 28 09:41:43 2012 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:41:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> Malachi 1 eg give the priestly class proper, good quality meat food to eat or be very afraid as the God we have created to keep you in yoru place (and make sure you pay us priests in food so we don't have to work - a bit like the tithe tax) will not be pleased.   Matthew 12 be scared of something you can't see or understand and do what we say or you will suffer for eternity.   Fear is the master.   I'd take more drugs if your conclusion is that we can be free because we are scared of a made up BIG man. You need to free your mind more.   We are all prostitutes etc.   Mark   PS I know I'm asking for it, and should have kept of religion but I couldn't resist and apologies to anyone I offend through my casual blasphemy. ________________________________ From: drugogoputiyanevedal To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 15:30 Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name?   Malachi 1 7 By offering polluted food upon my altar. But you say, 'How have we polluted you?' By saying that the LORD's table may be despised. 8 When you offer blind animals in sacrifice, is that not evil? And when you offer those that are lame or sick, is that not evil? Present that to your governor; will he accept you or show you favor? says the LORD of hosts. 9 And now entreat the favor of God, that he may be gracious to us. With such a gift from your hand, will he show favor to any of you? says the LORD of hosts. 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. Matthew 12 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. And if I am a master, where is my fear? From abcdetc@... Thu Jun 28 10:27:36 2012 From: abcdetc@... (Ben Harrison) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:27:36 +0800 Subject: [peel] Re: What was your most hated Peel favourite band? In-Reply-To: <1338275348.77907.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1338243939.89099.YahooMailNeo@...> <1338244617.4295.YahooMailNeo@...> <1338267844.80298.YahooMailNeo@...> <1338271531.33394.YahooMailNeo@...> <1338272766.82135.YahooMailNeo@...> <1338275348.77907.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: Not sure I *hate* them, but I remember my heart sank somewhat when I heard the great man announce a Thousand Yard Stare record. This was probably based on my having seen them and their shipped-in fans, mums and dads on a line-up that might have also included Flowered Up and/or The La's. And Swervedriver (who were great live). A summer ball? Default setting with these things perhaps: the guitarist seemed like a nice guy though. From mickcapewell@... Thu Jun 28 15:53:04 2012 From: mickcapewell@... (Michael Capewell) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:53:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: <1340891584.3821.YahooMailNeo@...>   Mark   PS I know I'm asking for it, and should have kept of religion but I couldn't resist and apologies to anyone I offend through my casual blasphemy. ****"Casual Blasphemy"....great name for an album! ;-) From thebarguest@... Thu Jun 28 16:39:48 2012 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:39:48 -0000 Subject: How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: In the beginning, back in 1955, Man didn't know about a rock 'n' roll show And all that jive The white man had the smoltz The black man had the blues No one knew what they was gonna do But Tchaikovsky had the news He said - "Let there be light", and there was light "Let there be sound", and there was sound "Let there be drums", and there was drums "Let there be guitar", and there was guitar "LET THERE BE ROCK" --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, MARK LUETCHFORD wrote: > > Malachi 1 eg give the priestly class proper, good quality meat food to eat or be very afraid as the God we have created to keep you in yoru place (and make sure you pay us priests in food so we don't have to work - a bit like the tithe tax) will not be pleased. >   > Matthew 12 be scared of something you can't see or understand and do what we say or you will suffer for eternity. >   > Fear is the master. >   > I'd take more drugs if your conclusion is that we can be free because we are scared of a made up BIG man. You need to free your mind more. >   > We are all prostitutes etc. >   > Mark >   > PS I know I'm asking for it, and should have kept of religion but I couldn't resist and apologies to anyone I offend through my casual blasphemy. > > > ________________________________ > From: drugogoputiyanevedal > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 15:30 > Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? > > >   > Malachi 1 > 7 By offering polluted food upon my altar. But you say, 'How have we polluted you?' By saying that the LORD's table may be despised. > 8 When you offer blind animals in sacrifice, is that not evil? And when you offer those that are lame or sick, is that not evil? Present that to your governor; will he accept you or show you favor? says the LORD of hosts. > 9 And now entreat the favor of God, that he may be gracious to us. With such a gift from your hand, will he show favor to any of you? says the LORD of hosts. > 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. > Matthew 12 > 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. > 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. > 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. > > And if I am a master, where is my fear? > From jt.gray@... Thu Jun 28 17:18:49 2012 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:18:49 +0100 Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: <1340891584.3821.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> <1340891584.3821.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: Blasphemy should never be casual. It should be delivered with whole hearted sincere venom. John Gray On 28 Jun 2012, at 14:53, Michael Capewell wrote: > > > Mark > > PS I know I'm asking for it, and should have kept of religion but I couldn't resist and apologies to anyone I offend through my casual blasphemy. > > ****"Casual Blasphemy"....great name for an album! ;-) > > > > > From anythingshouldhappen@... Thu Jun 28 20:18:58 2012 From: anythingshouldhappen@... (Anything Should Happen) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:18:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: <1340891584.3821.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> <1340891584.3821.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: Great name for a Metal Band! On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Capewell wrote: > ** > > > > > Mark > > PS I know I'm asking for it, and should have kept of religion but I > couldn't resist and apologies to anyone I offend through my casual > blasphemy. > > ****"Casual Blasphemy"....great name for an album! ;-) > > > > > > From anythingshouldhappen@... Thu Jun 28 20:19:53 2012 From: anythingshouldhappen@... (Anything Should Happen) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:19:53 +0100 Subject: [peel] How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> References: <1340869303.97014.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: I was afraid of the bogey man when I was little does that count? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:41 AM, MARK LUETCHFORD < M.Luetchford@...> wrote: > ** > > > Malachi 1 eg give the priestly class proper, good quality meat food to eat > or be very afraid as the God we have created to keep you in yoru place (and > make sure you pay us priests in food so we don't have to work - a bit like > the tithe tax) will not be pleased. > > Matthew 12 be scared of something you can't see or understand and do what > we say or you will suffer for eternity. > > Fear is the master. > > I'd take more drugs if your conclusion is that we can be free because we > are scared of a made up BIG man. You need to free your mind more. > > We are all prostitutes etc. > > Mark > > PS I know I'm asking for it, and should have kept of religion but I > couldn't resist and apologies to anyone I offend through my casual > blasphemy. > > *From:* drugogoputiyanevedal > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 15:30 > *Subject:* [peel] How have we despised your name? > > > Malachi 1 > 7 By offering polluted food upon my altar. But you say, 'How have we > polluted you?' By saying that the LORD's table may be despised. > 8 When you offer blind animals in sacrifice, is that not evil? And when > you offer those that are lame or sick, is that not evil? Present that to > your governor; will he accept you or show you favor? says the LORD of hosts. > 9 And now entreat the favor of God, that he may be gracious to us. With > such a gift from your hand, will he show favor to any of you? says the LORD > of hosts. > 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you > might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says > the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. > Matthew 12 > 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with > me scatters. > 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, > but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. > 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but > whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this > age or in the age to come. > > And if I am a master, where is my fear? > > > > > From zomgqashiyo@... Thu Jun 28 20:00:32 2012 From: zomgqashiyo@... (drugogoputiyanevedal) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:00:32 -0000 Subject: A Love From Outer Space Message-ID: Malachi 1 7 бШ ОПХМНЯХРЕ МЮ ФЕПРБЕММХЙ лНИ МЕВХЯРШИ УКЕА, Х ЦНБНПХРЕ: "ВЕЛ ЛШ АЕЯЯКЮБХЛ рЕАЪ?" - рЕЛ, ВРН ЦНБНПХРЕ: "РПЮОЕГЮ цНЯОНДМЪ МЕ ЯРНХР СБЮФЕМХЪ". 8 х ЙНЦДЮ ОПХМНЯХРЕ Б ФЕПРБС ЯКЕОНЕ, МЕ УСДН КХ ЩРН? ХКХ ЙНЦДЮ ОПХМНЯХРЕ УПНЛНЕ Х АНКЭМНЕ, МЕ УСДН КХ ЩРН? оНДМЕЯХ ЩРН РБНЕЛС ЙМЪГЧ; АСДЕР КХ НМ ДНБНКЕМ РНАНЧ Х АКЮЦНЯЙКНММН КХ ОПХЛЕР РЕАЪ? ЦНБНПХР цНЯОНДЭ яЮБЮНТ. 9 хРЮЙ ЛНКХРЕЯЭ аНЦС, ВРНАШ ОНЛХКНБЮК МЮЯ; Ю ЙНЦДЮ РЮЙНЕ ХЯУНДХР ХГ ПСЙ БЮЬХУ, РН ЛНФЕР КХ нМ ЛХКНЯРХБН ОПХМХЛЮРЭ БЮЯ? ЦНБНПХР цНЯОНДЭ яЮБЮНТ. 10 кСВЬЕ ЙРН-МХАСДЭ ХГ БЮЯ ГЮОЕП АШ ДБЕПХ, ВРНАШ МЮОПЮЯМН МЕ ДЕПФЮКХ НЦМЪ МЮ ФЕПРБЕММХЙЕ лНЕЛ. мЕР лНЕЦН АКЮЦНБНКЕМХЪ Й БЮЛ, ЦНБНПХР цНЯОНДЭ яЮБЮНТ, Х ОПХМНЬЕМХЕ ХГ ПСЙ БЮЬХУ МЕАКЮЦНСЦНДМН лМЕ. Matthew 12 30 йРН МЕ ЯН лМНЧ, РНР ОПНРХБ лЕМЪ; Х ЙРН МЕ ЯНАХПЮЕР ЯН лМНЧ, РНР ПЮЯРНВЮЕР. 31 оНЯЕЛС ЦНБНПЧ БЮЛ: БЯЪЙХИ ЦПЕУ Х УСКЮ ОПНЯРЪРЯЪ ВЕКНБЕЙЮЛ, Ю УСКЮ МЮ дСУЮ МЕ ОПНЯРХРЯЪ ВЕКНБЕЙЮЛ; 32 ЕЯКХ ЙРН ЯЙЮФЕР ЯКНБН МЮ яШМЮ вЕКНБЕВЕЯЙНЦН, ОПНЯРХРЯЪ ЕЛС; ЕЯКХ ФЕ ЙРН ЯЙЮФЕР МЮ дСУЮ яБЪРЮЦН, МЕ ОПНЯРХРЯЪ ЕЛС МХ Б ЯЕЛ БЕЙЕ, МХ Б АСДСЫЕЛ. From viynljohn@... Thu Jun 28 22:28:32 2012 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:32 -0000 Subject: A Love From Outer Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Was this gobblidy-gook some kind of gag?? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "drugogoputiyanevedal" wrote: > > Malachi 1 > 7 Âû ïðèíîñèòå íà æåðòâåííèê Ìîé íå÷èñòûé õëåá, è ãîâîðèòå: "÷åì ìû áåññëàâèì Òåáÿ?" - Òåì, ÷òî ãîâîðèòå: "òðàïåçà Ãîñïîäíÿ íå ñòîèò óâàæåíèÿ". > 8 È êîãäà ïðèíîñèòå â æåðòâó ñëåïîå, íå õóäî ëè ýòî? èëè êîãäà ïðèíîñèòå õðîìîå è áîëüíîå, íå õóäî ëè ýòî? Ïîäíåñè ýòî òâîåìó êíÿçþ; áóäåò ëè îí äîâîëåí òîáîþ è áëàãîñêëîííî ëè ïðèìåò òåáÿ? ãîâîðèò Ãîñïîäü Ñàâàîô. > 9 Èòàê ìîëèòåñü Áîãó, ÷òîáû ïîìèëîâàë íàñ; à êîãäà òàêîå èñõîäèò èç ðóê âàøèõ, òî ìîæåò ëè Îí ìèëîñòèâî ïðèíèìàòü âàñ? ãîâîðèò Ãîñïîäü Ñàâàîô. > 10 Ëó÷øå êòî-íèáóäü èç âàñ çàïåð áû äâåðè, ÷òîáû íàïðàñíî íå äåðæàëè îãíÿ íà æåðòâåííèêå Ìîåì. Íåò Ìîåãî áëàãîâîëåíèÿ ê âàì, ãîâîðèò Ãîñïîäü Ñàâàîô, è ïðèíîøåíèå èç ðóê âàøèõ íåáëàãîóãîäíî Ìíå. > Matthew 12 > 30 Êòî íå ñî Ìíîþ, òîò ïðîòèâ Ìåíÿ; è êòî íå ñîáèðàåò ñî Ìíîþ, òîò ðàñòî÷àåò. > 31 Ïîñåìó ãîâîðþ âàì: âñÿêèé ãðåõ è õóëà ïðîñòÿòñÿ ÷åëîâåêàì, à õóëà íà Äóõà íå ïðîñòèòñÿ ÷åëîâåêàì; > 32 åñëè êòî ñêàæåò ñëîâî íà Ñûíà ×åëîâå÷åñêîãî, ïðîñòèòñÿ åìó; åñëè æå êòî ñêàæåò íà Äóõà Ñâÿòàãî, íå ïðîñòèòñÿ åìó íè â ñåì âåêå, íè â áóäóùåì. > From zomgqashiyo@... Fri Jun 29 02:21:55 2012 From: zomgqashiyo@... (drugogoputiyanevedal) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:21:55 -0000 Subject: A Love From Outer Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "viynljohn" wrote: > > Was this gobblidy-gook some kind of gag?? > It's the same old song but with a different meaning. > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "drugogoputiyanevedal" wrote: > > > > Malachi 1 > > 7 Âû ïðèíîñèòå íà æåðòâåííèê Ìîé íå÷èñòûé õëåá, è ãîâîðèòå: "÷åì ìû áåññëàâèì Òåáÿ?" - Òåì, ÷òî ãîâîðèòå: "òðàïåçà Ãîñïîäíÿ íå ñòîèò óâàæåíèÿ". > > 8 È êîãäà ïðèíîñèòå â æåðòâó ñëåïîå, íå õóäî ëè ýòî? èëè êîãäà ïðèíîñèòå õðîìîå è áîëüíîå, íå õóäî ëè ýòî? Ïîäíåñè ýòî òâîåìó êíÿçþ; áóäåò ëè îí äîâîëåí òîáîþ è áëàãîñêëîííî ëè ïðèìåò òåáÿ? ãîâîðèò Ãîñïîäü Ñàâàîô. > > 9 Èòàê ìîëèòåñü Áîãó, ÷òîáû ïîìèëîâàë íàñ; à êîãäà òàêîå èñõîäèò èç ðóê âàøèõ, òî ìîæåò ëè Îí ìèëîñòèâî ïðèíèìàòü âàñ? ãîâîðèò Ãîñïîäü Ñàâàîô. > > 10 Ëó÷øå êòî-íèáóäü èç âàñ çàïåð áû äâåðè, ÷òîáû íàïðàñíî íå äåðæàëè îãíÿ íà æåðòâåííèêå Ìîåì. Íåò Ìîåãî áëàãîâîëåíèÿ ê âàì, ãîâîðèò Ãîñïîäü Ñàâàîô, è ïðèíîøåíèå èç ðóê âàøèõ íåáëàãîóãîäíî Ìíå. > > Matthew 12 > > 30 Êòî íå ñî Ìíîþ, òîò ïðîòèâ Ìåíÿ; è êòî íå ñîáèðàåò ñî Ìíîþ, òîò ðàñòî÷àåò. > > 31 Ïîñåìó ãîâîðþ âàì: âñÿêèé ãðåõ è õóëà ïðîñòÿòñÿ ÷åëîâåêàì, à õóëà íà Äóõà íå ïðîñòèòñÿ ÷åëîâåêàì; > > 32 åñëè êòî ñêàæåò ñëîâî íà Ñûíà ×åëîâå÷åñêîãî, ïðîñòèòñÿ åìó; åñëè æå êòî ñêàæåò íà Äóõà Ñâÿòàãî, íå ïðîñòèòñÿ åìó íè â ñåì âåêå, íè â áóäóùåì. > > > From pauliesarchive@... Fri Jun 29 08:11:06 2012 From: pauliesarchive@... (pauliesarchive) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:11:06 -0000 Subject: How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts, and I will not accept an offering from your hand. > Matthew 12 Matthew, just send it back to Amazon, they'll give you either a refund or replacement. Hope that helps. From parkermike81@... Fri Jun 29 10:50:13 2012 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:50:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Genetically modified group (4, 3, 4, 7) In-Reply-To: References: <1319061854.57821.YahooMailNeo@...> Message-ID: <1340959813.46806.YahooMailNeo@...> 47 peel videos now on peel3904 http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnPeel3904#p/u  ________________________________ From: steve To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011, 9:09 Subject: [peel] Re: Genetically modified group (4, 3, 4, 7)   I'm with Mark on this one. Maybe it's the time of year - all the anniversaries and stuff. On a related note, Webby at #keepingitpeel has sorted out a listing of Peel Day events this year - many already gone by of course: http://keepingitpeel.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/john-peel-day-2011/ Also, the second annual #keepingitpeel day for online events fast approaches (25th Oct). Meanwhile, things keep chugging along at the wiki - many thanks to all involved. Here's the latest activity page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity As you'll see, Steve (TK) had the very excellent idea of year pages for the Peelenium, with YouTube videos if available. Work ongoing as we speak. Also on the video front, after all Eddie's TV shares the other day, some kind of parallel effort going on over at YouTube with the new channel of Peel3904: http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnPeel3904#p/u Happily, the same person has also added videos to the wiki TV section where these weren't previously available. Very much appreciated and many hours of entertainment for all the family. Here's the "big list" of all the TV stuff (much new or updated): http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_On_TV Finally, also on the wiki, and another brainwave of Steve TK, is the (newish) Glossary page, bringing together a few things that hadn't really found their way to elsewhere on the site: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Glossary Anything missing? Please feel free to add a line or two (click edit button, add content, click Publish). Cheers, SW --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, MARK LUETCHFORD wrote: > > i've no idea but I'm puzzled about the lackof activity - for the first time since I found this wonderful group of people I have not had a single message  from you lot. >   > still think the bfbs shows are real gems ... > > From: so_it_goes_2512 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, 10 October 2011, 13:30 > Subject: [peel] Genetically modified group (4, 3, 4, 7) > > >   > Fellow Peelites > > John promises us a model of efficiency, but ends up in chaos. And all the better for it. > > 22 October 1995 (BFBS)  > > BTW, does anyone have the live Billy Bragg session referred to, please? It went out on the 13 October show and I've never seen it anywhere, even though one of the tracks made the Festive Fifty. > > Yours hopefully > Steve (TK) > From mickcapewell@... Fri Jun 29 13:07:15 2012 From: mickcapewell@... (Michael Capewell) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:07:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: How have we despised your name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1340968035.18913.YahooMailNeo@...> > 10 Oh that there were one among you who would shut the doors, that you might not kindle fire on my altar in vain! I have no pleasure in you, says the LORD of hosts,   **** The LORD of hosts not a Jim Morrison fan then eh? From robfleay@... Fri Jun 29 18:38:53 2012 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:38:53 +0100 Subject: New L Tape Upload In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Whilst ripping my current batch I'm getting slightly confused as the wiki is showing some shows are already available in part and the source is also L tapes?! And it's not just different sections - there are overlaps and different edits of his tapes out there. God knows what was going on Unlike the 400 box which seemed to present a lot of full shows with very few edits, I think I'm going to have fun piecing together the most complete versions of some of these 91/92 shows...I wish I'd started earlier (like a year ago when I was sent the tapes!) An example would be http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/24_November_1991 I just ripped a tape that has other portons of this show and yet some of the same tracks as already showing were on a tape previously ripped by someone else..very odd On 26 June 2012 20:52, RobF wrote: > A timely poke from our resident tape co-ordinator reminded me I still had > an unfinished batch of Lowman tapes > > Here's the first > 89 minutes of Saturday 30th November 1991 > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_November_1991 > The wiki already has the last section of this show so this should be most > of it completed now. > Sessions from Barbel & Stereolab > > Hopefully someone can do the honours and update the wiki from the inlay > scan > Audio: > http://www.mediafire.com/?aiacy16c92gbk3m > > Inlay: > http://www.mediafire.com/?z2n333tb1bc6tqp > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jun 29 20:28:59 2012 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (so_it_goes_2512) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:28:59 -0000 Subject: New L Tape Upload In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Rob A propos of this, do you have tape numbers for the two rips? I got the first one on the Wiki but would appreciate the L numbers. Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > Whilst ripping my current batch I'm getting slightly confused as the wiki > is showing some shows are already available in part and the source is also > L tapes?! And it's not just different sections - there are overlaps and > different edits of his tapes out there. God knows what was going on > > Unlike the 400 box which seemed to present a lot of full shows with very > few edits, I think I'm going to have fun piecing together the most complete > versions of some of these 91/92 shows...I wish I'd started earlier (like a > year ago when I was sent the tapes!) > > An example would be > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/24_November_1991 > I just ripped a tape that has other portons of this show and yet some of > the same tracks as already showing were on a tape previously ripped by > someone else..very odd > > > On 26 June 2012 20:52, RobF wrote: > > > A timely poke from our resident tape co-ordinator reminded me I still had > > an unfinished batch of Lowman tapes > > > > Here's the first > > 89 minutes of Saturday 30th November 1991 > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_November_1991 > > The wiki already has the last section of this show so this should be most > > of it completed now. > > Sessions from Barbel & Stereolab > > > > Hopefully someone can do the honours and update the wiki from the inlay > > scan > > Audio: > > http://www.mediafire.com/?aiacy16c92gbk3m > > > > Inlay: > > http://www.mediafire.com/?z2n333tb1bc6tqp > > > > > > > > >