[peel] Re: My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes

Philip Edwards festive50@...
Tue Nov 2 02:15:26 CET 2010


No Problem.
I just wasn't sure of the mechanics of the Mooo Server.
Phil



On 2 November 2010 01:09, So It Goes 2512 <so_it_goes_2512@...>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Phil
>
> The reason is that this page has not been updated for some time (as I have
> been busy with other things like getting new shows out). I'll try and sort
> it out this week.
>
> Best wishes
> Steve (TK)
>
>
> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com <peel%40yahoogroups.com>, Philip Edwards
> <festive50@...> wrote:
> >
>  > Hi all
> > I'm a bit confused here,
> > Over the last week I've been busy uploading my existing 1990/1991 tapes
> > which I'd already ripped to Mooo Server/Phil directory
> > Currently:-
> > 1990 - 12 files
> > 1991 - 51 files - 32 files still uploading.
> >
> > So why can't I see them in http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server#phil
> >
> > These files were originally on my server (in case anyone doesn't have
> > these).
> > Now I can start to rip the rest of them (I'll start ripping the remainder
> > this weekend). I've finally put them in date order and all in one place.
> I
> > underestimated the number. It now stannds at 601 tapes plus about 20
> > missing.
> >
> > >> 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when
> I
> > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first
> 45
> > minutes of a show
> > >> have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa.
> > This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and
> > reverse (if it is >> an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b
> on
> > your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the
> > correct deck, in the correct
> > >> direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was
> > originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one!
> If
> > it is an entirely
> > >> different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback.
> You
> > might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay.
> >
> > Sadly, the 1990-92 tapes were taped on on my nephews Akai tape deck
> > The 1997 - 2003 were recorded on my Teac which I'm using for digitising.
> > Anything else was recorded on an Aiwa tape deck.
> >
>  > On 9 October 2010 14:15, Stuart <stuartb@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Uploading
> > >
> > > Most folks are now getting a folder on the Mooo server. There is a
> folder
> > > there in your name already with a bunch of your earlier shows! If you
> look
> > > at the Mooo Server page on the wiki you'll see who to contact about
> getting
> > > a login to upload there, anyone can download with the correct
> credentials.
> > > User Peel password group.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Files of over 200Mb have been deposited there already, and even the
> likes
> > > of Mediafire can take 200Mb files on a free account.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Downloading
> > >
> > > Mediafire Rapidshare Megaupload etc are easy to download from without
> an
> > > account, especially using a utility like jDownloader which automates
> all the
> > > tedious waiting for xx minutes and you can queue up as many downloads
> as you
> > > like. DAP utility is good and fast for downloading from a server like
> Mooo
> > > or Diag which only needs a password set once. You can get that utility
> to
> > > download all links on a page, which is good for the Mooo and Gary's
> server
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Digitising
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) A 2 hour show can be recorded to a 192kbps joint stereo mp3 and come
> in
> > > at under 200Mb. I've even experimented with 220-260kpbs vbr setting for
> my
> > > best tapes. I use Audacity to rip, setting the recording level in
> advance to
> > > avoid clipping, rather than normalising later, which may actually
> perform
> > > some dynamic compression, and if clipping occurred during the recording
> > > phase, the peaks would already be lost.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when
> I
> > > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the
> first 45
> > > minutes of a show have been muffled and the second half have been
> clear, or
> > > vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the
> > > forward and reverse (if it is an auto reverse deck) or between deck a
> and
> > > deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing
> back on
> > > the correct deck, in the correct direction, it should be obvious on
> > > listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound
> much
> > > clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely different deck, then
> you
> > > may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a
> better
> > > sound by having the Dolby off on replay.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Though I think some of your later tapes in 1993 did sound very clear
> > > indeed!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A benefit of the Mooo server is that the files are dated as they are
> > > uploaded and will make it easy for folks who wish to download and do a
> > > tracklisting on the wiki, without you having to announce each upload on
> the
> > > group.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com <peel%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> peel@yahoogroups.com <peel%40yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Philip
> > > Edwards
> > > *Sent:* 09 October 2010 13:26
> > > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com <peel%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > *Subject:* [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of)
> Peel
> > > Tapes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At last.
> > >
> > > I've finally gotten around to getting back to digitising my 500+ tapes.
> > >
> > > Although I contributed my 20 quid to that 1st box of tapes we
> collectively
> > > bought a few years back which kicked off these various taping projects,
> I
> > > probably only got around to downloading about 50 shows.
> > >
> > > The reason being, I was waiting to get my new server in a satisfactory
> > > state. Hopefully I will also be looking at getting this working in the
> near
> > > future.
> > >
> > > The vast majority of these tapes (about 90+%) are TDK AD C90s and are
> > > complete shows.
> > >
> > > Taking the form of :-
> > >
> > > Tape 1 = show 1 part 1 of 2
> > >
> > > Tape 2 = show 1 part 2 of 2 + show 2 part 1 of 2
> > >
> > > Tape 3 = show 2 part 2 of 2 + show 3 part 1 of 2 etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm planning to stitch the parts together (removing the blank bits
> where
> > > tape reverses) to end up with complete shows (normalised to minimise
> > > clipping, using Cool Edit Pro 2.0) as 1 file (current bitrate of 44100
> bps
> > > gives approx. 100 Mb per 2 hour show. Is this too large a file size?
> > >
> > > Mostly these tapes will be digitised using the same tape deck as they
> were
> > > recorded on (A TEAC twin deck which recorded on both decks).
> > >
> > > Will probably manage about 2-3 tapes per evening.
> > >
> > > 2 Things
> > >
> > > 1. Until the issues with my server are resolved, where can I upload
>
> > > these shows? Is Gary's (Niag) server still available? I don't have an
> > > account with any of these file share sites such as MediaFire or
> RapidShare
> > > or whatever. Probably the reason I never bothered downloading many
> shows due
> > > to their limitations.
> > > 2. At present the shows will be completely random as they are in
>
> > > complete disarray from when I was digging stuff out from when Ken was
> > > finalising his book. This will soon be resolved as "she who must be
> obeyed"
> > > has instructed me to tidy my study and is well under way, having thrown
> out
> > > over a dozen bin bags of books, giving me more shelf space to rearrange
> the
> > > tapes.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > P.S. These shows are from 1987 onwards (about 300 tapes between 1990-2)
> > >
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