From postscriptxyz@... Mon Nov 1 00:56:27 2010 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:56:27 -0000 Subject: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! In-Reply-To: <696738.67029.qm@...> Message-ID: I would echo this plee ... some of us can't access Megaupload at all. Is there anyone out there with the time to upload to Mooo or an alternative file sharing site ? Thanks, Pad --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Thanks for this Ken. > > I was able to grab side B easily enough. However, I've been trying to download "new tape A" for the last 24 hours. Every bleedin' time, megaupload is telling me "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable." Is it just me? Frankly I'm getting rather narked. Can someone stick it on the moo server for easy download? > > Dr M. > From postscriptxyz@... Mon Nov 1 01:33:27 2010 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 00:33:27 -0000 Subject: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! In-Reply-To: <120211.518.qm@...> Message-ID: If anyone has an interest in sixties radio, the Top Sounds releases are really enjoyable. Most include a handful of Top Gear session tracks - usually sourced from transcription disc. The latest release (Look At The Sun, TSSCD 005) contains the following : Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera - Reactions Of A Young Man (Top Gear 3/11/67) Kaleidoscope - The Murder Of Lewis Tollani (Top Gear 13/12/67) Kaleidoscope - Faintly Blowing (Top Gear 13/12/67) The Fleur De Lys - Cross Cut Saw (Top Gear 11/10/67) The CD insert includes Kaleidoscope's recollection of recording the session. It also includes cuttings, from what I assume is the Radio Times, showing all the above artists appeared on the show. However, none of these sessions appear in Ken's book. Any views Ken? Pad --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Gert Stuut wrote: > > Thanks Ken for this new part! > > PS > Colonel Brown & Real Life Permanent Dream from this show are also released on > the 1st Shapes & Sounds compilation (Top Sounds) TSCD 002, and also released on > LP. (probably TSLP 002) released in 2008. > > Cheers, > Gert > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: DAVID TIERNEY > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 4:17:51 PM > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! > > > Many thanks for the Oct 67 show. This was broadcast on the second day of Radio > One - I remember hearing it on the day! Best wishes, David > > > > ________________________________ > From: ken > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, 29 October, 2010 14:13:36 > Subject: [peel] Re: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! > > > > > Your question, David, made me revisit my files and tapes (being off work sick > has given me some time for this), and I discovered I actually had a second side > of a cassette from Bernie Andrews of another 45 minutes of the first ever Top > Gear, 1 October 1967. I do not think Bernie would mind now if this were shared a > bit, so I have now ripped it, along with my side b (all i thought i had until > this week) which is a fractionally longer version of the well-known existing > tape extract. Bernie clearly used his same master of extracts of the show to > give different people limited extracts, over the years. > > > I then dug out the very blotchy old script I got from archives when doing In > session Tonight in 91-92 and have now used this to give a full track listing on > the wiki page (links below). > > > There are clearly internal edits in both 47 min extracts, but, essentially, we > now in total have about half that first show. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "davidtierney@" wrote: > > > > I am new to the Group and I'm trying to compile playlists or possibly > >recordings of Top Gear programmes from September 67 to December 69. I have a > >number already from the wiki Peel website and Kats Karavan. Can anyone help with > >the remainder? David > > > From postscriptxyz@... Mon Nov 1 01:39:03 2010 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 00:39:03 -0000 Subject: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Update. Shortly after hitting the Send button, I had a thought and did find Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera filed under V in Ken's book. However, the other two session elude me. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "postscriptxyz" wrote: > > If anyone has an interest in sixties radio, the Top Sounds releases are really enjoyable. Most include a handful of Top Gear session tracks - usually sourced from transcription disc. > > The latest release (Look At The Sun, TSSCD 005) contains the following : > Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera - Reactions Of A Young Man (Top Gear 3/11/67) > Kaleidoscope - The Murder Of Lewis Tollani (Top Gear 13/12/67) > Kaleidoscope - Faintly Blowing (Top Gear 13/12/67) > The Fleur De Lys - Cross Cut Saw (Top Gear 11/10/67) > > The CD insert includes Kaleidoscope's recollection of recording the session. It also includes cuttings, from what I assume is the Radio Times, showing all the above artists appeared on the show. However, none of these sessions appear in Ken's book. Any views Ken? > > Pad > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Gert Stuut wrote: > > > > Thanks Ken for this new part! > > > > PS > > Colonel Brown & Real Life Permanent Dream from this show are also released on > > the 1st Shapes & Sounds compilation (Top Sounds) TSCD 002, and also released on > > LP. (probably TSLP 002) released in 2008. > > > > Cheers, > > Gert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: DAVID TIERNEY > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 4:17:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! > > > > > > Many thanks for the Oct 67 show. This was broadcast on the second day of Radio > > One - I remember hearing it on the day! Best wishes, David > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: ken > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, 29 October, 2010 14:13:36 > > Subject: [peel] Re: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! > > > > > > > > > > Your question, David, made me revisit my files and tapes (being off work sick > > has given me some time for this), and I discovered I actually had a second side > > of a cassette from Bernie Andrews of another 45 minutes of the first ever Top > > Gear, 1 October 1967. I do not think Bernie would mind now if this were shared a > > bit, so I have now ripped it, along with my side b (all i thought i had until > > this week) which is a fractionally longer version of the well-known existing > > tape extract. Bernie clearly used his same master of extracts of the show to > > give different people limited extracts, over the years. > > > > > > I then dug out the very blotchy old script I got from archives when doing In > > session Tonight in 91-92 and have now used this to give a full track listing on > > the wiki page (links below). > > > > > > There are clearly internal edits in both 47 min extracts, but, essentially, we > > now in total have about half that first show. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "davidtierney@" wrote: > > > > > > I am new to the Group and I'm trying to compile playlists or possibly > > >recordings of Top Gear programmes from September 67 to December 69. I have a > > >number already from the wiki Peel website and Kats Karavan. Can anyone help with > > >the remainder? David > > > > > > From ken_garner@... Mon Nov 1 02:25:03 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 01:25:03 -0000 Subject: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have no idea why i filed elmer gantry's velvet opera under v, given that the equippe does not feature someone born with the name of Mr Gantry... apologies... ...but the kaleidoscope session IS in the book, recorded 13/12/67, broadcast 7/1/68 (and , i think, never repeated), although one of those two tracks named, "the murder of..." does not appear, most probably because one of the title given at the time of the recording was later amended to this. Maybe someone can advise? Sharon Tandy and the Fleur De Lys (that's how they were billed), did appear on the show of 29/10/67 (recorded 11/10/67), and are in the book therefore filed under T for Tandy. k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "postscriptxyz" wrote: > > Update. Shortly after hitting the Send button, I had a thought and did find Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera filed under V in Ken's book. However, the other two session elude me. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "postscriptxyz" wrote: > > > > If anyone has an interest in sixties radio, the Top Sounds releases are really enjoyable. Most include a handful of Top Gear session tracks - usually sourced from transcription disc. > > > > The latest release (Look At The Sun, TSSCD 005) contains the following : > > Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera - Reactions Of A Young Man (Top Gear 3/11/67) > > Kaleidoscope - The Murder Of Lewis Tollani (Top Gear 13/12/67) > > Kaleidoscope - Faintly Blowing (Top Gear 13/12/67) > > The Fleur De Lys - Cross Cut Saw (Top Gear 11/10/67) > > > > The CD insert includes Kaleidoscope's recollection of recording the session. It also includes cuttings, from what I assume is the Radio Times, showing all the above artists appeared on the show. However, none of these sessions appear in Ken's book. Any views Ken? > > > > Pad > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Gert Stuut wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ken for this new part! > > > > > > PS > > > Colonel Brown & Real Life Permanent Dream from this show are also released on > > > the 1st Shapes & Sounds compilation (Top Sounds) TSCD 002, and also released on > > > LP. (probably TSLP 002) released in 2008. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Gert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: DAVID TIERNEY > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 4:17:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the Oct 67 show. This was broadcast on the second day of Radio > > > One - I remember hearing it on the day! Best wishes, David > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: ken > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, 29 October, 2010 14:13:36 > > > Subject: [peel] Re: 60's Top Gear programmes and playlists ...A DISCOVERY! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your question, David, made me revisit my files and tapes (being off work sick > > > has given me some time for this), and I discovered I actually had a second side > > > of a cassette from Bernie Andrews of another 45 minutes of the first ever Top > > > Gear, 1 October 1967. I do not think Bernie would mind now if this were shared a > > > bit, so I have now ripped it, along with my side b (all i thought i had until > > > this week) which is a fractionally longer version of the well-known existing > > > tape extract. Bernie clearly used his same master of extracts of the show to > > > give different people limited extracts, over the years. > > > > > > > > > I then dug out the very blotchy old script I got from archives when doing In > > > session Tonight in 91-92 and have now used this to give a full track listing on > > > the wiki page (links below). > > > > > > > > > There are clearly internal edits in both 47 min extracts, but, essentially, we > > > now in total have about half that first show. > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "davidtierney@" wrote: > > > > > > > > I am new to the Group and I'm trying to compile playlists or possibly > > > >recordings of Top Gear programmes from September 67 to December 69. I have a > > > >number already from the wiki Peel website and Kats Karavan. Can anyone help with > > > >the remainder? David > > > > > > > > > > From ken_garner@... Mon Nov 1 12:06:46 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:06:46 -0000 Subject: Vintage Peel - Reel tape format? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not an expert, Rocker, and have not possessed or used a reel to reel for 25 years, but my memory tells me our old Bush Elizabethan we had at home in the 60s and 70s had the tracks configured "1-4" and "2-3". There were two push buttons marked thus which you pushed to select which "track", giving double track mono - I am pretty sure stereo recording was not possible - on each "side" of the tape reel. Might not that kind of track layout explain what you're hearing? ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > Tonight I finally got around to listening to one of the reel-to-reel tapes > from The Decktician. > > Quality is pretty good, despite the fact that it runs at 3.75ips. The tape > consists of tracks recorded from John Peel shows, around 1974 - On this > particular tape John's links have been edited out, although the occasional cut > off syllable is enough to confirm that they are indeed from Peel shows. > > The deck I am playing back the tape on is a standard consumer "quarter > track" quarter inch tape deck - tracks one and three are stereo in one > direction, and tracks four and two are stereo on side two, running in the opposite > direction. > > On this tape, when I select stereo playback (tracks one and three) I get > one track in the left speaker playing forwards, plus another track in the > right speaker playing backwards. When I reverse the tape I get the backwards > track playing forwards in the left speaker, plus the original forwards track > playing backwards in the right speaker. > > I have two theories which would acount for this: > > The tape is recorded in mono half track - with a mono recording taking up > half the tape in each direction. > > or... The tape is recorded in stereo quarter track, but the left and right > channels of side one are recorded to tracks one and two, and the left and > right channels of side two are recorded in the opposite direction, to tracks > three and four. > > Neither of these are formats I have come across before - anyone else know > if either format was ever used in commercially available machines? > > Since the audio source in those days would probably have been mono medium > wave radio, I suspect that this conjecture is irrelevant, and that either way > we end up with a fairly decent mono recording. > > Cheers! > > Rocker > From paul@... Mon Nov 1 13:37:09 2010 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:37:09 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Vintage Peel - Reel tape format? References: Message-ID: I have an old Marconiphone 4247 ... it has a 1-4 / 2-3 switch and an extra position "PAR". It has not been switched on for years ... but next time you are in the area we could give it a try. I think my Dad bought it in early 70s to replace a machine that had stopped working. The previous one had been used (amoung other things) to record him off air when he was a DJ on ZD8VR in 1966. (I'll have to find a 5-pin DIN as well to get sound out of it) Even have the user guide .... and just scanned in the relevant part. See attached PDF Looks like the same as the model on the right in this picture from eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=110595469512 Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "ken" To: Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: [peel] Re: Vintage Peel - Reel tape format? > I'm not an expert, Rocker, and have not possessed or used a reel to reel > for 25 years, but my memory tells me our old Bush Elizabethan we had at > home in the 60s and 70s had the tracks configured "1-4" and "2-3". There > were two push buttons marked thus which you pushed to select which > "track", giving double track mono - I am pretty sure stereo recording was > not possible - on each "side" of the tape reel. Might not that kind of > track layout explain what you're hearing? > > ken > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: >> >> Tonight I finally got around to listening to one of the reel-to-reel >> tapes >> from The Decktician. >> >> Quality is pretty good, despite the fact that it runs at 3.75ips. The >> tape >> consists of tracks recorded from John Peel shows, around 1974 - On this >> particular tape John's links have been edited out, although the >> occasional cut >> off syllable is enough to confirm that they are indeed from Peel shows. >> >> The deck I am playing back the tape on is a standard consumer "quarter >> track" quarter inch tape deck - tracks one and three are stereo in one >> direction, and tracks four and two are stereo on side two, running in the >> opposite >> direction. >> >> On this tape, when I select stereo playback (tracks one and three) I get >> one track in the left speaker playing forwards, plus another track in the >> right speaker playing backwards. When I reverse the tape I get the >> backwards >> track playing forwards in the left speaker, plus the original forwards >> track >> playing backwards in the right speaker. >> >> I have two theories which would acount for this: >> >> The tape is recorded in mono half track - with a mono recording taking up >> half the tape in each direction. >> >> or... The tape is recorded in stereo quarter track, but the left and >> right >> channels of side one are recorded to tracks one and two, and the left and >> right channels of side two are recorded in the opposite direction, to >> tracks >> three and four. >> >> Neither of these are formats I have come across before - anyone else know >> if either format was ever used in commercially available machines? >> >> Since the audio source in those days would probably have been mono medium >> wave radio, I suspect that this conjecture is irrelevant, and that either >> way >> we end up with a fairly decent mono recording. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Rocker >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > From rockerq@... Mon Nov 1 14:19:09 2010 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:19:09 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Vintage Peel - Reel tape format? [1 Attachment] Message-ID: <38b6b.469414f9.3a00184d@...> Yeah - my machine has the same buttons - "1-4" toggles on or off the playback head which reads track one when playing side one of a tape, or track four when playing side two of the same tape (in the opposite direction) - "2-3" toggles on or off the other playback head, which reads track three when playing side one of a tape, and track two when playing the other side. Cheers! Rocker > < reel > > for 25 years, but my memory tells me our old Bush Elizabethan we had at > > home in the 60s and 70s had the tracks configured "1-4" and "2-3". There > > were two push buttons marked thus which you pushed to select which > > "track", giving double track mono - I am pretty sure stereo recording > was > > not possible - on each "side" of the tape reel. Might not that kind of > > track layout explain what you're hearing? > > > > ken>> From dr_mango2004@... Mon Nov 1 16:06:18 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:06:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 1 October 1967 Message-ID: <86058.36813.qm@...> I finally managed to grab side a of Ken's new rip late last night, after trying for the best part of two days. For anyone else having difficulty, I've uploaded both parts to the mooo server and placed them in a folder as below. http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/dr_mango/1967/ Dr M. From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Nov 1 18:46:20 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:46:20 -0000 Subject: Miracle On 34th Street Message-ID: Fellow Peelites With many thanks to the taping hero who saw my plea for Peel shows on Teenage Kicks and responded, here are two episodes, in crystal-clear quality, of the 1976 series mentioned in The Peel Sessions. Where It's At, Part 3: The Supreme Sacrifice Where It's At, Part 4: From Highlife To Dub And Skank Both available at http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Where_It%27s_At. Help in identifying the Osibisa track would be welcome. Best wishes Steve (TK) From stuartb@... Mon Nov 1 20:19:30 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:19:30 -0000 Subject: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5850A6B860214865A129D52C3310FCB3@Stuartnew> Great sound for so long ago! The Osibisa track is Densu (thanks to Spotify for identifying) Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of So It Goes 2512 Sent: 01 November 2010 17:46 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street Fellow Peelites With many thanks to the taping hero who saw my plea for Peel shows on Teenage Kicks and responded, here are two episodes, in crystal-clear quality, of the 1976 series mentioned in The Peel Sessions. Where It's At, Part 3: The Supreme Sacrifice Where It's At, Part 4: From Highlife To Dub And Skank Both available at http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Where_It%27s_At. Help in identifying the Osibisa track would be welcome. Best wishes Steve (TK) From unity.gain@... Mon Nov 1 21:03:56 2010 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:03:56 +0000 Subject: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street In-Reply-To: <5850A6B860214865A129D52C3310FCB3@Stuartnew> Message-ID: I get a ŒThis page needs content¹ page for this... Cheers roger On 01/11/2010 19:19, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > Great sound for so long ago! > > The Osibisa track is Densu (thanks to Spotify for identifying) > > Stuart > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of So It > Goes 2512 > Sent: 01 November 2010 17:46 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street > > > > Fellow Peelites > > With many thanks to the taping hero who saw my plea for Peel shows on Teenage > Kicks and responded, here are two episodes, in crystal-clear quality, of the > 1976 series mentioned in The Peel Sessions. > > Where It's At, Part 3: The Supreme Sacrifice > Where It's At, Part 4: From Highlife To Dub And Skank > > Both available at http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Where_It%27s_At. Help in > identifying the Osibisa track would be welcome. > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > > > > > From stuartb@... Mon Nov 1 22:04:57 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:04:57 -0000 Subject: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street In-Reply-To: References: <5850A6B860214865A129D52C3310FCB3@Stuartnew> Message-ID: <45556BE9CA864973A7A7335676E1EBE0@Stuartnew> Take away the final dot.. _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Carruthers Sent: 01 November 2010 20:04 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street I get a 'This page needs content' page for this... Cheers roger On 01/11/2010 19:19, "Stuart" wrote: Great sound for so long ago! The Osibisa track is Densu (thanks to Spotify for identifying) Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of So It Goes 2512 Sent: 01 November 2010 17:46 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Miracle On 34th Street Fellow Peelites With many thanks to the taping hero who saw my plea for Peel shows on Teenage Kicks and responded, here are two episodes, in crystal-clear quality, of the 1976 series mentioned in The Peel Sessions. Where It's At, Part 3: The Supreme Sacrifice Where It's At, Part 4: From Highlife To Dub And Skank Both available at http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Where_It%27s_At. Help in identifying the Osibisa track would be welcome. Best wishes Steve (TK) From festive50@... Tue Nov 2 00:53:57 2010 From: festive50@... (Philip Edwards) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:53:57 +0000 Subject: [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes In-Reply-To: <877E5F4B9294436DB01979B8D5E78F89@Stuartnew> References: <877E5F4B9294436DB01979B8D5E78F89@Stuartnew> Message-ID: Hi all I'm a bit confused here, Over the last week I've been busy uploading my existing 1990/1991 tapes which I'd already ripped to Mooo Server/Phil directory Currently:- 1990 - 12 files 1991 - 51 files - 32 files still uploading. So why can't I see them in http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server#phil These files were originally on my server (in case anyone doesn't have these). Now I can start to rip the rest of them (I'll start ripping the remainder this weekend). I've finally put them in date order and all in one place. I underestimated the number. It now stannds at 601 tapes plus about 20 missing. >> 2) One thing I’ve noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 minutes of a show >> have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and reverse (if it is >> an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the correct deck, in the correct >> direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely >> different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay. Sadly, the 1990-92 tapes were taped on on my nephews Akai tape deck The 1997 - 2003 were recorded on my Teac which I'm using for digitising. Anything else was recorded on an Aiwa tape deck. On 9 October 2010 14:15, Stuart wrote: > > > Hi Phil > > > > Uploading > > Most folks are now getting a folder on the Mooo server. There is a folder > there in your name already with a bunch of your earlier shows! If you look > at the Mooo Server page on the wiki you’ll see who to contact about getting > a login to upload there, anyone can download with the correct credentials. > User Peel password group. > > > > Files of over 200Mb have been deposited there already, and even the likes > of Mediafire can take 200Mb files on a free account. > > > > Downloading > > Mediafire Rapidshare Megaupload etc are easy to download from without an > account, especially using a utility like jDownloader which automates all the > tedious waiting for xx minutes and you can queue up as many downloads as you > like. DAP utility is good and fast for downloading from a server like Mooo > or Diag which only needs a password set once. You can get that utility to > download all links on a page, which is good for the Mooo and Gary’s server > > > > Digitising > > > > 1) A 2 hour show can be recorded to a 192kbps joint stereo mp3 and come in > at under 200Mb. I’ve even experimented with 220-260kpbs vbr setting for my > best tapes. I use Audacity to rip, setting the recording level in advance to > avoid clipping, rather than normalising later, which may actually perform > some dynamic compression, and if clipping occurred during the recording > phase, the peaks would already be lost. > > > > 2) One thing I’ve noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 > minutes of a show have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or > vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the > forward and reverse (if it is an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and > deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on > the correct deck, in the correct direction, it should be obvious on > listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound much > clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely different deck, then you > may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a better > sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > > > Though I think some of your later tapes in 1993 did sound very clear > indeed! > > > > A benefit of the Mooo server is that the files are dated as they are > uploaded and will make it easy for folks who wish to download and do a > tracklisting on the wiki, without you having to announce each upload on the > group. > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip > Edwards > *Sent:* 09 October 2010 13:26 > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel > Tapes > > > > > > At last. > > I've finally gotten around to getting back to digitising my 500+ tapes. > > Although I contributed my 20 quid to that 1st box of tapes we collectively > bought a few years back which kicked off these various taping projects, I > probably only got around to downloading about 50 shows. > > The reason being, I was waiting to get my new server in a satisfactory > state. Hopefully I will also be looking at getting this working in the near > future. > > The vast majority of these tapes (about 90+%) are TDK AD C90s and are > complete shows. > > Taking the form of :- > > Tape 1 = show 1 part 1 of 2 > > Tape 2 = show 1 part 2 of 2 + show 2 part 1 of 2 > > Tape 3 = show 2 part 2 of 2 + show 3 part 1 of 2 etc. > > > > I'm planning to stitch the parts together (removing the blank bits where > tape reverses) to end up with complete shows (normalised to minimise > clipping, using Cool Edit Pro 2.0) as 1 file (current bitrate of 44100 bps > gives approx. 100 Mb per 2 hour show. Is this too large a file size? > > Mostly these tapes will be digitised using the same tape deck as they were > recorded on (A TEAC twin deck which recorded on both decks). > > Will probably manage about 2-3 tapes per evening. > > 2 Things > > 1. Until the issues with my server are resolved, where can I upload > these shows? Is Gary's (Niag) server still available? I don't have an > account with any of these file share sites such as MediaFire or RapidShare > or whatever. Probably the reason I never bothered downloading many shows due > to their limitations. > 2. At present the shows will be completely random as they are in > complete disarray from when I was digging stuff out from when Ken was > finalising his book. This will soon be resolved as "she who must be obeyed" > has instructed me to tidy my study and is well under way, having thrown out > over a dozen bin bags of books, giving me more shelf space to rearrange the > tapes. > > Phil > > P.S. These shows are from 1987 onwards (about 300 tapes between 1990-2) > > > > > > > > > > From postscriptxyz@... Tue Nov 2 00:57:01 2010 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 23:57:01 -0000 Subject: 1 October 1967 In-Reply-To: <86058.36813.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks Doc, much appreciated. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > I finally managed to grab side a of Ken's new rip late last night, after trying for the best part of two days. For anyone else having difficulty, I've uploaded both parts to the mooo server and placed them in a folder as below. > > http://mooo.peelwiki.com/dl/dr_mango/1967/ > > Dr M. > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 2 02:09:31 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 01:09:31 -0000 Subject: My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Phil The reason is that this page has not been updated for some time (as I have been busy with other things like getting new shows out). I'll try and sort it out this week. Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Philip Edwards wrote: > > Hi all > I'm a bit confused here, > Over the last week I've been busy uploading my existing 1990/1991 tapes > which I'd already ripped to Mooo Server/Phil directory > Currently:- > 1990 - 12 files > 1991 - 51 files - 32 files still uploading. > > So why can't I see them in http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server#phil > > These files were originally on my server (in case anyone doesn't have > these). > Now I can start to rip the rest of them (I'll start ripping the remainder > this weekend). I've finally put them in date order and all in one place. I > underestimated the number. It now stannds at 601 tapes plus about 20 > missing. > > >> 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 > minutes of a show > >> have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa. > This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and > reverse (if it is >> an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b on > your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the > correct deck, in the correct > >> direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was > originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one! If > it is an entirely > >> different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You > might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > Sadly, the 1990-92 tapes were taped on on my nephews Akai tape deck > The 1997 - 2003 were recorded on my Teac which I'm using for digitising. > Anything else was recorded on an Aiwa tape deck. > > On 9 October 2010 14:15, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Phil > > > > > > > > Uploading > > > > Most folks are now getting a folder on the Mooo server. There is a folder > > there in your name already with a bunch of your earlier shows! If you look > > at the Mooo Server page on the wiki you'll see who to contact about getting > > a login to upload there, anyone can download with the correct credentials. > > User Peel password group. > > > > > > > > Files of over 200Mb have been deposited there already, and even the likes > > of Mediafire can take 200Mb files on a free account. > > > > > > > > Downloading > > > > Mediafire Rapidshare Megaupload etc are easy to download from without an > > account, especially using a utility like jDownloader which automates all the > > tedious waiting for xx minutes and you can queue up as many downloads as you > > like. DAP utility is good and fast for downloading from a server like Mooo > > or Diag which only needs a password set once. You can get that utility to > > download all links on a page, which is good for the Mooo and Gary's server > > > > > > > > Digitising > > > > > > > > 1) A 2 hour show can be recorded to a 192kbps joint stereo mp3 and come in > > at under 200Mb. I've even experimented with 220-260kpbs vbr setting for my > > best tapes. I use Audacity to rip, setting the recording level in advance to > > avoid clipping, rather than normalising later, which may actually perform > > some dynamic compression, and if clipping occurred during the recording > > phase, the peaks would already be lost. > > > > > > > > 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I > > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 > > minutes of a show have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or > > vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the > > forward and reverse (if it is an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and > > deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on > > the correct deck, in the correct direction, it should be obvious on > > listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound much > > clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely different deck, then you > > may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a better > > sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > > > > > > > Though I think some of your later tapes in 1993 did sound very clear > > indeed! > > > > > > > > A benefit of the Mooo server is that the files are dated as they are > > uploaded and will make it easy for folks who wish to download and do a > > tracklisting on the wiki, without you having to announce each upload on the > > group. > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip > > Edwards > > *Sent:* 09 October 2010 13:26 > > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel > > Tapes > > > > > > > > > > > > At last. > > > > I've finally gotten around to getting back to digitising my 500+ tapes. > > > > Although I contributed my 20 quid to that 1st box of tapes we collectively > > bought a few years back which kicked off these various taping projects, I > > probably only got around to downloading about 50 shows. > > > > The reason being, I was waiting to get my new server in a satisfactory > > state. Hopefully I will also be looking at getting this working in the near > > future. > > > > The vast majority of these tapes (about 90+%) are TDK AD C90s and are > > complete shows. > > > > Taking the form of :- > > > > Tape 1 = show 1 part 1 of 2 > > > > Tape 2 = show 1 part 2 of 2 + show 2 part 1 of 2 > > > > Tape 3 = show 2 part 2 of 2 + show 3 part 1 of 2 etc. > > > > > > > > I'm planning to stitch the parts together (removing the blank bits where > > tape reverses) to end up with complete shows (normalised to minimise > > clipping, using Cool Edit Pro 2.0) as 1 file (current bitrate of 44100 bps > > gives approx. 100 Mb per 2 hour show. Is this too large a file size? > > > > Mostly these tapes will be digitised using the same tape deck as they were > > recorded on (A TEAC twin deck which recorded on both decks). > > > > Will probably manage about 2-3 tapes per evening. > > > > 2 Things > > > > 1. Until the issues with my server are resolved, where can I upload > > these shows? Is Gary's (Niag) server still available? I don't have an > > account with any of these file share sites such as MediaFire or RapidShare > > or whatever. Probably the reason I never bothered downloading many shows due > > to their limitations. > > 2. At present the shows will be completely random as they are in > > complete disarray from when I was digging stuff out from when Ken was > > finalising his book. This will soon be resolved as "she who must be obeyed" > > has instructed me to tidy my study and is well under way, having thrown out > > over a dozen bin bags of books, giving me more shelf space to rearrange the > > tapes. > > > > Phil > > > > P.S. These shows are from 1987 onwards (about 300 tapes between 1990-2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From festive50@... Tue Nov 2 02:15:26 2010 From: festive50@... (Philip Edwards) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:15:26 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No Problem. I just wasn't sure of the mechanics of the Mooo Server. Phil On 2 November 2010 01:09, So It Goes 2512 wrote: > > > Hi Phil > > The reason is that this page has not been updated for some time (as I have > been busy with other things like getting new shows out). I'll try and sort > it out this week. > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Philip Edwards > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > I'm a bit confused here, > > Over the last week I've been busy uploading my existing 1990/1991 tapes > > which I'd already ripped to Mooo Server/Phil directory > > Currently:- > > 1990 - 12 files > > 1991 - 51 files - 32 files still uploading. > > > > So why can't I see them in http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server#phil > > > > These files were originally on my server (in case anyone doesn't have > > these). > > Now I can start to rip the rest of them (I'll start ripping the remainder > > this weekend). I've finally put them in date order and all in one place. > I > > underestimated the number. It now stannds at 601 tapes plus about 20 > > missing. > > > > >> 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when > I > > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first > 45 > > minutes of a show > > >> have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa. > > This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and > > reverse (if it is >> an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b > on > > your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the > > correct deck, in the correct > > >> direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was > > originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one! > If > > it is an entirely > > >> different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. > You > > might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > > > Sadly, the 1990-92 tapes were taped on on my nephews Akai tape deck > > The 1997 - 2003 were recorded on my Teac which I'm using for digitising. > > Anything else was recorded on an Aiwa tape deck. > > > > On 9 October 2010 14:15, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > Uploading > > > > > > Most folks are now getting a folder on the Mooo server. There is a > folder > > > there in your name already with a bunch of your earlier shows! If you > look > > > at the Mooo Server page on the wiki you'll see who to contact about > getting > > > a login to upload there, anyone can download with the correct > credentials. > > > User Peel password group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Files of over 200Mb have been deposited there already, and even the > likes > > > of Mediafire can take 200Mb files on a free account. > > > > > > > > > > > > Downloading > > > > > > Mediafire Rapidshare Megaupload etc are easy to download from without > an > > > account, especially using a utility like jDownloader which automates > all the > > > tedious waiting for xx minutes and you can queue up as many downloads > as you > > > like. DAP utility is good and fast for downloading from a server like > Mooo > > > or Diag which only needs a password set once. You can get that utility > to > > > download all links on a page, which is good for the Mooo and Gary's > server > > > > > > > > > > > > Digitising > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) A 2 hour show can be recorded to a 192kbps joint stereo mp3 and come > in > > > at under 200Mb. I've even experimented with 220-260kpbs vbr setting for > my > > > best tapes. I use Audacity to rip, setting the recording level in > advance to > > > avoid clipping, rather than normalising later, which may actually > perform > > > some dynamic compression, and if clipping occurred during the recording > > > phase, the peaks would already be lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when > I > > > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the > first 45 > > > minutes of a show have been muffled and the second half have been > clear, or > > > vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the > > > forward and reverse (if it is an auto reverse deck) or between deck a > and > > > deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing > back on > > > the correct deck, in the correct direction, it should be obvious on > > > listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound > much > > > clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely different deck, then > you > > > may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a > better > > > sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I think some of your later tapes in 1993 did sound very clear > > > indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > A benefit of the Mooo server is that the files are dated as they are > > > uploaded and will make it easy for folks who wish to download and do a > > > tracklisting on the wiki, without you having to announce each upload on > the > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > peel@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Philip > > > Edwards > > > *Sent:* 09 October 2010 13:26 > > > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > > > *Subject:* [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) > Peel > > > Tapes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At last. > > > > > > I've finally gotten around to getting back to digitising my 500+ tapes. > > > > > > Although I contributed my 20 quid to that 1st box of tapes we > collectively > > > bought a few years back which kicked off these various taping projects, > I > > > probably only got around to downloading about 50 shows. > > > > > > The reason being, I was waiting to get my new server in a satisfactory > > > state. Hopefully I will also be looking at getting this working in the > near > > > future. > > > > > > The vast majority of these tapes (about 90+%) are TDK AD C90s and are > > > complete shows. > > > > > > Taking the form of :- > > > > > > Tape 1 = show 1 part 1 of 2 > > > > > > Tape 2 = show 1 part 2 of 2 + show 2 part 1 of 2 > > > > > > Tape 3 = show 2 part 2 of 2 + show 3 part 1 of 2 etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm planning to stitch the parts together (removing the blank bits > where > > > tape reverses) to end up with complete shows (normalised to minimise > > > clipping, using Cool Edit Pro 2.0) as 1 file (current bitrate of 44100 > bps > > > gives approx. 100 Mb per 2 hour show. Is this too large a file size? > > > > > > Mostly these tapes will be digitised using the same tape deck as they > were > > > recorded on (A TEAC twin deck which recorded on both decks). > > > > > > Will probably manage about 2-3 tapes per evening. > > > > > > 2 Things > > > > > > 1. Until the issues with my server are resolved, where can I upload > > > > these shows? Is Gary's (Niag) server still available? I don't have an > > > account with any of these file share sites such as MediaFire or > RapidShare > > > or whatever. Probably the reason I never bothered downloading many > shows due > > > to their limitations. > > > 2. At present the shows will be completely random as they are in > > > > complete disarray from when I was digging stuff out from when Ken was > > > finalising his book. This will soon be resolved as "she who must be > obeyed" > > > has instructed me to tidy my study and is well under way, having thrown > out > > > over a dozen bin bags of books, giving me more shelf space to rearrange > the > > > tapes. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > P.S. These shows are from 1987 onwards (about 300 tapes between 1990-2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Tue Nov 2 02:50:29 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:50:29 -0000 Subject: [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes In-Reply-To: References: <877E5F4B9294436DB01979B8D5E78F89@Stuartnew> Message-ID: <1EAF3A9A05A345B6A12F2C406243FA7E@Stuartnew> Phil 601 ---- That is a large number! If you ever need a hand with digitising I'm happy to help. I bought a Nakamichi tape deck specifically for the purpose of digitising my own Peel mixtape collection. It is very good at extracting the best of tapes recorded on other machines, both due to the 3-head design and the easily adjustable azimuth and speed. I think it might well be able to do a very good job with the 1990-1992 tapes - it sounds like the quality is definitely in there but just needs unlocking. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Edwards Sent: 01 November 2010 23:54 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes Hi all I'm a bit confused here, Over the last week I've been busy uploading my existing 1990/1991 tapes which I'd already ripped to Mooo Server/Phil directory Currently:- 1990 - 12 files 1991 - 51 files - 32 files still uploading. So why can't I see them in http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server#phil These files were originally on my server (in case anyone doesn't have these). Now I can start to rip the rest of them (I'll start ripping the remainder this weekend). I've finally put them in date order and all in one place. I underestimated the number. It now stannds at 601 tapes plus about 20 missing. >> 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 minutes of a show >> have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and reverse (if it is >> an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the correct deck, in the correct >> direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely >> different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay. Sadly, the 1990-92 tapes were taped on on my nephews Akai tape deck The 1997 - 2003 were recorded on my Teac which I'm using for digitising. Anything else was recorded on an Aiwa tape deck. On 9 October 2010 14:15, Stuart wrote: Hi Phil Uploading Most folks are now getting a folder on the Mooo server. There is a folder there in your name already with a bunch of your earlier shows! If you look at the Mooo Server page on the wiki you'll see who to contact about getting a login to upload there, anyone can download with the correct credentials. User Peel password group. Files of over 200Mb have been deposited there already, and even the likes of Mediafire can take 200Mb files on a free account. Downloading Mediafire Rapidshare Megaupload etc are easy to download from without an account, especially using a utility like jDownloader which automates all the tedious waiting for xx minutes and you can queue up as many downloads as you like. DAP utility is good and fast for downloading from a server like Mooo or Diag which only needs a password set once. You can get that utility to download all links on a page, which is good for the Mooo and Gary's server Digitising 1) A 2 hour show can be recorded to a 192kbps joint stereo mp3 and come in at under 200Mb. I've even experimented with 220-260kpbs vbr setting for my best tapes. I use Audacity to rip, setting the recording level in advance to avoid clipping, rather than normalising later, which may actually perform some dynamic compression, and if clipping occurred during the recording phase, the peaks would already be lost. 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 minutes of a show have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and reverse (if it is an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the correct deck, in the correct direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay. Though I think some of your later tapes in 1993 did sound very clear indeed! A benefit of the Mooo server is that the files are dated as they are uploaded and will make it easy for folks who wish to download and do a tracklisting on the wiki, without you having to announce each upload on the group. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Edwards Sent: 09 October 2010 13:26 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes At last. I've finally gotten around to getting back to digitising my 500+ tapes. Although I contributed my 20 quid to that 1st box of tapes we collectively bought a few years back which kicked off these various taping projects, I probably only got around to downloading about 50 shows. The reason being, I was waiting to get my new server in a satisfactory state. Hopefully I will also be looking at getting this working in the near future. The vast majority of these tapes (about 90+%) are TDK AD C90s and are complete shows. Taking the form of :- Tape 1 = show 1 part 1 of 2 Tape 2 = show 1 part 2 of 2 + show 2 part 1 of 2 Tape 3 = show 2 part 2 of 2 + show 3 part 1 of 2 etc. I'm planning to stitch the parts together (removing the blank bits where tape reverses) to end up with complete shows (normalised to minimise clipping, using Cool Edit Pro 2.0) as 1 file (current bitrate of 44100 bps gives approx. 100 Mb per 2 hour show. Is this too large a file size? Mostly these tapes will be digitised using the same tape deck as they were recorded on (A TEAC twin deck which recorded on both decks). Will probably manage about 2-3 tapes per evening. 2 Things 1. Until the issues with my server are resolved, where can I upload these shows? Is Gary's (Niag) server still available? I don't have an account with any of these file share sites such as MediaFire or RapidShare or whatever. Probably the reason I never bothered downloading many shows due to their limitations. 2. At present the shows will be completely random as they are in complete disarray from when I was digging stuff out from when Ken was finalising his book. This will soon be resolved as "she who must be obeyed" has instructed me to tidy my study and is well under way, having thrown out over a dozen bin bags of books, giving me more shelf space to rearrange the tapes. Phil P.S. These shows are from 1987 onwards (about 300 tapes between 1990-2) From saipanda@... Tue Nov 2 06:40:17 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 05:40:17 -0000 Subject: My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel Tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just like to say thanks to Phil and the many other people who have shared shows via this list, as well as Steve, Stuart, Doc M and others who have also spent much time keeping the wiki as up to date as possible. It's all very much appreciated! Just a note re the wiki. The final switchover to the "new look" is scheduled to happen this week from Wed. Those who still use the old one via the preferences will find this option is no longer available. Sorry for any inconvenience. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Phil > > The reason is that this page has not been updated for some time (as I have been busy with other things like getting new shows out). I'll try and sort it out this week. > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Philip Edwards wrote: > > > > Hi all > > I'm a bit confused here, > > Over the last week I've been busy uploading my existing 1990/1991 tapes > > which I'd already ripped to Mooo Server/Phil directory > > Currently:- > > 1990 - 12 files > > 1991 - 51 files - 32 files still uploading. > > > > So why can't I see them in http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server#phil > > > > These files were originally on my server (in case anyone doesn't have > > these). > > Now I can start to rip the rest of them (I'll start ripping the remainder > > this weekend). I've finally put them in date order and all in one place. I > > underestimated the number. It now stannds at 601 tapes plus about 20 > > missing. > > > > >> 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I > > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 > > minutes of a show > > >> have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or vice versa. > > This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the forward and > > reverse (if it is >> an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and deck b on > > your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on the > > correct deck, in the correct > > >> direction, it should be obvious on listening which deck a tape was > > originally recorded on, it should sound much clearer on the correct one! If > > it is an entirely > > >> different deck, then you may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You > > might also get a better sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > > > Sadly, the 1990-92 tapes were taped on on my nephews Akai tape deck > > The 1997 - 2003 were recorded on my Teac which I'm using for digitising. > > Anything else was recorded on an Aiwa tape deck. > > > > On 9 October 2010 14:15, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > Uploading > > > > > > Most folks are now getting a folder on the Mooo server. There is a folder > > > there in your name already with a bunch of your earlier shows! If you look > > > at the Mooo Server page on the wiki you'll see who to contact about getting > > > a login to upload there, anyone can download with the correct credentials. > > > User Peel password group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Files of over 200Mb have been deposited there already, and even the likes > > > of Mediafire can take 200Mb files on a free account. > > > > > > > > > > > > Downloading > > > > > > Mediafire Rapidshare Megaupload etc are easy to download from without an > > > account, especially using a utility like jDownloader which automates all the > > > tedious waiting for xx minutes and you can queue up as many downloads as you > > > like. DAP utility is good and fast for downloading from a server like Mooo > > > or Diag which only needs a password set once. You can get that utility to > > > download all links on a page, which is good for the Mooo and Gary's server > > > > > > > > > > > > Digitising > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) A 2 hour show can be recorded to a 192kbps joint stereo mp3 and come in > > > at under 200Mb. I've even experimented with 220-260kpbs vbr setting for my > > > best tapes. I use Audacity to rip, setting the recording level in advance to > > > avoid clipping, rather than normalising later, which may actually perform > > > some dynamic compression, and if clipping occurred during the recording > > > phase, the peaks would already be lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) One thing I've noticed about the earlier tapes in your series, when I > > > was doing a lot of tracklistings for them, is that quite often the first 45 > > > minutes of a show have been muffled and the second half have been clear, or > > > vice versa. This may be due to an azimuth mismatch between either the > > > forward and reverse (if it is an auto reverse deck) or between deck a and > > > deck b on your multideck. The best recording will come from playing back on > > > the correct deck, in the correct direction, it should be obvious on > > > listening which deck a tape was originally recorded on, it should sound much > > > clearer on the correct one! If it is an entirely different deck, then you > > > may well have to adjust azimuth on playback. You might also get a better > > > sound by having the Dolby off on replay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I think some of your later tapes in 1993 did sound very clear > > > indeed! > > > > > > > > > > > > A benefit of the Mooo server is that the files are dated as they are > > > uploaded and will make it easy for folks who wish to download and do a > > > tracklisting on the wiki, without you having to announce each upload on the > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip > > > Edwards > > > *Sent:* 09 October 2010 13:26 > > > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > > > *Subject:* [peel] My (not so much a box but more several shelves of) Peel > > > Tapes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At last. > > > > > > I've finally gotten around to getting back to digitising my 500+ tapes. > > > > > > Although I contributed my 20 quid to that 1st box of tapes we collectively > > > bought a few years back which kicked off these various taping projects, I > > > probably only got around to downloading about 50 shows. > > > > > > The reason being, I was waiting to get my new server in a satisfactory > > > state. Hopefully I will also be looking at getting this working in the near > > > future. > > > > > > The vast majority of these tapes (about 90+%) are TDK AD C90s and are > > > complete shows. > > > > > > Taking the form of :- > > > > > > Tape 1 = show 1 part 1 of 2 > > > > > > Tape 2 = show 1 part 2 of 2 + show 2 part 1 of 2 > > > > > > Tape 3 = show 2 part 2 of 2 + show 3 part 1 of 2 etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm planning to stitch the parts together (removing the blank bits where > > > tape reverses) to end up with complete shows (normalised to minimise > > > clipping, using Cool Edit Pro 2.0) as 1 file (current bitrate of 44100 bps > > > gives approx. 100 Mb per 2 hour show. Is this too large a file size? > > > > > > Mostly these tapes will be digitised using the same tape deck as they were > > > recorded on (A TEAC twin deck which recorded on both decks). > > > > > > Will probably manage about 2-3 tapes per evening. > > > > > > 2 Things > > > > > > 1. Until the issues with my server are resolved, where can I upload > > > these shows? Is Gary's (Niag) server still available? I don't have an > > > account with any of these file share sites such as MediaFire or RapidShare > > > or whatever. Probably the reason I never bothered downloading many shows due > > > to their limitations. > > > 2. At present the shows will be completely random as they are in > > > complete disarray from when I was digging stuff out from when Ken was > > > finalising his book. This will soon be resolved as "she who must be obeyed" > > > has instructed me to tidy my study and is well under way, having thrown out > > > over a dozen bin bags of books, giving me more shelf space to rearrange the > > > tapes. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > P.S. These shows are from 1987 onwards (about 300 tapes between 1990-2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dutch_record_59@... Tue Nov 2 08:58:28 2010 From: dutch_record_59@... (dutch_record_59) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:58:28 -0000 Subject: Fabulous Poodles Message-ID: For those that downloaded The Fabulous Poodles BBC Concert from Stuart's Peel Session blog, the tracks areas follow: 1 Suicide Bridge 2 Chicago Boxcar 3 B-Movies 4 Workshy 5 Pinball Pin-up 6 Mirror Star 7 Microphone 8 Bike Blood http://peelysessions.blogspot.com/ Cheers, Gert From iceage01@... Tue Nov 2 17:56:56 2010 From: iceage01@... (ckitlee) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:56:56 -0000 Subject: BFBS Shows Message-ID: I have recently started to clear up some of the tapes lying around my house so that I can start converting them to digital format for sharing. The first tapes are some BFBS shows between 1995 and 1997, shortly before the services closed down here after the handover of Hong Kong back to China on 1997. As the shows were taped onto VCR (mainly to take advantage of being able to tape the whole show in one go, as Peel's BFBS show was normally broadcast during the midnight hours), and my VCR is wearing out a bit (almost impossible to find any replacement now in Hong Kong), there is some sizzling noise on the background in most files, and occasionally the machine switched itself to mono qaulity. But otherwise the sound quality should be quite reasonable. The big headache however is uploading. I notice that uploading to the major file sharing sites (e.g. rapidshare, mediafire) is rather slow. So may take a while to share all these files. So here is the first one: BFBS 19970523.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/?bj3ab137u5zxbws Cheers CK from Hong Kong From dr_mango2004@... Wed Nov 3 01:23:12 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:23:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 400 Box - new show (3 Sep 1979) Message-ID: <702255.35087.qm@...> Next one out of the box from me is the last 40 minutes of the show from Monday 3 September 1979. An earlier chunk of the show is reportedly down on T140 which is in the hands of ripper "CCM" (anyone?). If I can get my hands on a flac of this part, I'll happily paste the two together. Note: I've reverted back to mediafire for this one. Show date: 3 September 1979 Sessions: OMD #1 and Leyton Buzzards #3 (rpt). Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/03_September_1979 Dr Mango From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Nov 3 02:08:18 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 01:08:18 -0000 Subject: 400 Box - new show (3 Sep 1979) In-Reply-To: <702255.35087.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Doc, you say Mediafire but the link points to an upload on the Mooo. Am I missing something? In any event, happily downloading as I speak. Cheers! Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Next one out of the box from me is the last 40 minutes of the show from Monday 3 September 1979. An earlier chunk of the show is reportedly down on T140 which is in the hands of ripper "CCM" (anyone?). If I can get my hands on a flac of this part, I'll happily paste the two together. > > Note: I've reverted back to mediafire for this one. > > Show date: 3 September 1979 > Sessions: OMD #1 and Leyton Buzzards #3 (rpt). > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/03_September_1979 > > Dr Mango > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Nov 3 02:14:17 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 01:14:17 -0000 Subject: BFBS Shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi CK Thanks very much for this! It's extremely welcome because, although Carsten sent me this show, his is incomplete. One thing though, and this may be to do with the time difference, but all the shows I have from this era went out on Thursdays, which would date this as the 22nd: the others tie in datewise. I hope you'll be able to fill in other gaps in the run for us! Bets wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ckitlee" wrote: > > I have recently started to clear up some of the tapes lying around my house so that I can start converting them to digital format for sharing. The first tapes are some BFBS shows between 1995 and 1997, shortly before the services closed down here after the handover of Hong Kong back to China on 1997. As the shows were taped onto VCR (mainly to take advantage of being able to tape the whole show in one go, as Peel's BFBS show was normally broadcast during the midnight hours), and my VCR is wearing out a bit (almost impossible to find any replacement now in Hong Kong), there is some sizzling noise on the background in most files, and occasionally the machine switched itself to mono qaulity. But otherwise the sound quality should be quite reasonable. > > The big headache however is uploading. I notice that uploading to the major file sharing sites (e.g. rapidshare, mediafire) is rather slow. So may take a while to share all these files. > > So here is the first one: > BFBS 19970523.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/?bj3ab137u5zxbws > > Cheers > CK > from Hong Kong > From dr_mango2004@... Wed Nov 3 04:10:27 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 03:10:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box - new show (3 Sep 1979) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <309370.79520.qm@...> There are multiple links. The first (link #1) is for mediafire and the others point to the moo server (directory and file itself). DM --- On Wed, 3/11/10, So It Goes 2512 wrote: From: So It Goes 2512 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box - new show (3 Sep 1979) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 3 November, 2010, 1:08   Hi Doc, you say Mediafire but the link points to an upload on the Mooo. Am I missing something? In any event, happily downloading as I speak. Cheers! Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Next one out of the box from me is the last 40 minutes of the show from Monday 3 September 1979. An earlier chunk of the show is reportedly down on T140 which is in the hands of ripper "CCM" (anyone?). If I can get my hands on a flac of this part, I'll happily paste the two together. > > Note: I've reverted back to mediafire for this one. > > Show date: 3 September 1979 > Sessions: OMD #1 and Leyton Buzzards #3 (rpt). > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/03_September_1979 > > Dr Mango > From iceage01@... Wed Nov 3 07:35:20 2010 From: iceage01@... (ckitlee) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:35:20 -0000 Subject: BFBS Shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's not just the time difference - it might be the difference in programme schedule in individual BFBS stations. For example the Peel show might go out in BFBS Berlin on a Tuesday, but it might go out on BFBS Hong Kong on a Saturday. And to complicate the thing even more, the programmes might not be played in the same sequence as they arrived at each BFBS station. But one thing for sure, the date of the programme as printed on the tape - and the contents of it - matches with the date written on the "tracklist" which I wrote at the time of the broadcast of that programme. Bearing in mind all those uncertainties, we might have to use the tracklist as a reference to match different sources of BFBS tapes. That should be a minor inconvenience that should not spoil the joy of being able to assemble such a collection after all those years. Meanwhile, I've finished uploading another programme. So better start a new thread for that. Cheers, CK --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi CK > > Thanks very much for this! It's extremely welcome because, although Carsten sent me this show, his is incomplete. > One thing though, and this may be to do with the time difference, but all the shows I have from this era went out on Thursdays, which would date this as the 22nd: the others tie in datewise. I hope you'll be able to fill in other gaps in the run for us! > > Bets wishes > Steve (TK) > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ckitlee" wrote: > > > > I have recently started to clear up some of the tapes lying around my house so that I can start converting them to digital format for sharing. The first tapes are some BFBS shows between 1995 and 1997, shortly before the services closed down here after the handover of Hong Kong back to China on 1997. As the shows were taped onto VCR (mainly to take advantage of being able to tape the whole show in one go, as Peel's BFBS show was normally broadcast during the midnight hours), and my VCR is wearing out a bit (almost impossible to find any replacement now in Hong Kong), there is some sizzling noise on the background in most files, and occasionally the machine switched itself to mono qaulity. But otherwise the sound quality should be quite reasonable. > > > > The big headache however is uploading. I notice that uploading to the major file sharing sites (e.g. rapidshare, mediafire) is rather slow. So may take a while to share all these files. > > > > So here is the first one: > > BFBS 19970523.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/?bj3ab137u5zxbws > > > > Cheers > > CK > > from Hong Kong > > > From iceage01@... Wed Nov 3 07:37:50 2010 From: iceage01@... (ckitlee) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:37:50 -0000 Subject: BFBS Show - 17 March 1997 Message-ID: Here comes another BFBS show: BFBS 19970317.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/?blb3a124lllg6gq Cheers, CK From dr_mango2004@... Wed Nov 3 21:46:28 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 20:46:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 400 Box - new (short) show (4 Sep 1979) Message-ID: <492906.46916.qm@...> Only a short one - tacked onto the end of the same tape that brought you last night's Monday 3 September 1979 show is the start of the next night's programme. Only 10 mins of it are captured on the tape, but here it is. Much more of the show lurk in the 400 box on tapes T141 and T142. According to Rocker's spreadsheet, these were ripped by Roger C and returned to Rocker, but not yet shared. Again, if I can get my hands on the flacs, I'll happily knit the segments together. Show date: 4 September 1979 Sessions: Pragvec #3 (rpt) and Purple Hearts #1 (rpt). Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/04_September_1979 Dr Mango From dr_mango2004@... Thu Nov 4 00:58:42 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:58:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 400 Box - new addition to 30 July 1979 Message-ID: <211008.5437.qm@...> Evening all. This upload is part of the missing third from the 30th July 1979, the remainder of which was previously ripped by Lollygagger. The first 40 mins of the show were missing, which is - coincidentally - the approximate length of tape T187 from whence this segment comes. However, Side A of the tape is taken up with a recording of 27th November 1979, when then flips over onto side B for 5 minutes until the show itself ends. Following this are around 15 minutes of 30th July 1979. So it's fair to assume that the entire tape once contained the start of the July show, later recorded over. Show date: 30 July 1979 Sessions: Police #1 and Psychedelic Furs #1. Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_July_1979 That concludes my 400 box work for batch #2. Dr Mango From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Nov 4 04:48:45 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 03:48:45 -0000 Subject: On Yer Bike Message-ID: Another NAR courtesy of Isector, to whom many thanks. Date: 12 June 1993 (incomplete) Sessions: New Bomb Turks, Fall Phantom Fifty: #6 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/12_June_1993 Best wishes Steve (TK) From r.fewster@... Thu Nov 4 08:36:04 2010 From: r.fewster@... (Richard Fewster) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:36:04 +0000 Subject: [peel] On Yer Bike In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These 1993 shows are superb chaps - I remember being obsessed with them at the time (but then proceeded to do the typical thing of saving the music without the Peel links). Many thanks, and keep em coming. Cheers, Richard On 4 November 2010 03:48, So It Goes 2512 wrote: > > > Another NAR courtesy of Isector, to whom many thanks. > > Date: 12 June 1993 (incomplete) > Sessions: New Bomb Turks, Fall > Phantom Fifty: #6 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/12_June_1993 > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > > > From unity.gain@... Thu Nov 4 10:56:26 2010 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 09:56:26 -0000 Subject: More at Roger's Mooo + Eno gem[OT] Message-ID: I've uploaded a bunch of Festive Fifty rips from 96 - 03 to my Mooo page. There's probably nothing there that's not been shared before, but there might be something there for the completists eg. slightly better quality recordings, bits missed during tape flips etc. There are a couple more FF's I intend to upload today from the mid 80's, but I suspect that they're without links, as it was still Thatcher's Britain and we couldn't afford the tapes! And on an entirely different note, (OT, but I think John would have approved): in eager anticipation of Eno's new album, due in a couple of weeks, you might enjoy the 'Dick Flash Interview' at http://www.brian-eno.net/ I saw him play with John Hopkins and Leo Abrahams in Brighton a few months ago, and he presented the gig as a kind of lecture, with the same flavour of deadpan humour - pure genius (or should that be 'Scenius'?), cheers Roger PS. Did you get the identity of the 'interviewer' !? From unity.gain@... Thu Nov 4 21:47:16 2010 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:47:16 +0000 Subject: [peel] Vintage Peel - Reel tape format? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think it was pretty much standard practice for 1/4 track machines to be interleaved (1-3, 2-4), so I imagine these tapes are 1/2 track mono. I¹ve found what I think may be a 1/2 track mono machine at work, so if you want to send a tape or two over, I can give it a spin, Cheers Roger On 31/10/2010 22:49, "rockerq@..." wrote: > > > > > > Tonight I finally got around to listening to one of the reel-to-reel tapes > from The Decktician. > > Quality is pretty good, despite the fact that it runs at 3.75ips. The tape > consists of tracks recorded from John Peel shows, around 1974 - On this > particular tape John's links have been edited out, although the occasional cut > off syllable is enough to confirm that they are indeed from Peel shows. > > The deck I am playing back the tape on is a standard consumer "quarter track" > quarter inch tape deck - tracks one and three are stereo in one direction, and > tracks four and two are stereo on side two, running in the opposite direction. > > On this tape, when I select stereo playback (tracks one and three) I get one > track in the left speaker playing forwards, plus another track in the right > speaker playing backwards. When I reverse the tape I get the backwards track > playing forwards in the left speaker, plus the original forwards track playing > backwards in the right speaker. > > I have two theories which would acount for this: > > The tape is recorded in mono half track - with a mono recording taking up half > the tape in each direction. > > or... The tape is recorded in stereo quarter track, but the left and right > channels of side one are recorded to tracks one and two, and the left and > right channels of side two are recorded in the opposite direction, to tracks > three and four. > > Neither of these are formats I have come across before - anyone else know if > either format was ever used in commercially available machines? > > Since the audio source in those days would probably have been mono medium wave > radio, I suspect that this conjecture is irrelevant, and that either way we > end up with a fairly decent mono recording. > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > > From borisrangelov@... Fri Nov 5 14:06:27 2010 From: borisrangelov@... (Boris) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:06:27 -0000 Subject: mediafire links Message-ID: Hi everybody, I have added mediafire d-load links to 3 BBC WS shows on wikia(so far only linked to youtube). The August 1987 (BBC World Service)has complete tracklisting, but a few edits, although Peel's talk is almost intact throughout. (I think the links below wouldn't work because '(BBC World Service)' doesn't show up). http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/August_1987_(BBC_World_Service) http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/November_1987_(BBC_World_Service) http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/November_1988_(BBC_World_Service) You can also check out: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/October_1991_(BBC_World_Service) posted yesterday, only 3 tracks - 2 from Pixies, 1 from techno/new beat act Where's the Beach. Check out also June 1985 - 2 tracks only - Mark Stewart & Chameleons: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Early_June_1985_(BBC_World_Service) Also: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Early_March_1993_(BBC_World_Service) (related to Kimble) Best wishes, Boris From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Nov 7 05:09:29 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 04:09:29 -0000 Subject: Another Brick In The Wall Message-ID: Fellow Peelites A little quiet on here recently, so here's another one from Carsten. As noted on the Wiki, the FM signal seems to be a bit weaker than usual, with the result that the show is in mono throughout. Date: 11 November 1995 (BFBS) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/11_November_1995_%28BFBS%29 All the very best Steve (TK) From pietre.tronne@... Tue Nov 9 02:25:46 2010 From: pietre.tronne@... (pietre.tronne) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:25:46 -0000 Subject: Another Brick In The Wall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: aha, 1995 seems quite bare on the wiki calendar, so thanks for this upload! Cheers, Baz. From stuartb@... Tue Nov 9 02:42:36 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:42:36 -0000 Subject: New Mixtape Early Summer 1991 Message-ID: Been busy ripping while at my work bolthole which is where my Nak resides, so quite a few mixtapes to share over the next few days. It's getting dangerously close to the congestion that is late 1991 to early 1993 where there are a lot of complete shows and mixtapes available with more to follow. Even so, I think I have some worthwhile stuff to contribute, and the sound is in general very clear. This tape is largely taken from Peel shows of shoegazetastic June 1991, and includes complete sessions by Moose and Slowdive, though perhaps the most interesting part is the AC Acoustics track, which predates their earliest known demo recording by a year. Can anyone identify the track? http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Early_Summer_1991 Stuart PS thanks to Rangelov and others for their recent shares! From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 9 03:40:18 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:40:18 -0000 Subject: 'Unwholesome Stench Of Melody' Message-ID: Fellow Peelites A partial show I originally ripped as part of the 500 Box has now been upgraded by Isector, with every last drop present and all in stereo. Date: 09 May 1992 Session: Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/09_May_1992 Best wishes Steve (TK) From stuartb@... Tue Nov 9 13:26:54 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 12:26:54 -0000 Subject: Another 1991 Mixtape - Late Summer 1991 Message-ID: Well mid to late summer anyway, in fact I suspect some tracks are from the end of June. After my previous shoe-gaze heavy tape this one is a lot more varied, with dancehall, ragga, some golden gassers and at least one guilty pleasure I'm pretty certain is not from the JP show! Recorded in glorious - --- 220-260kbps vbr mp3 (doesn't exactly trip of the tongue) http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_Summer_1991 Stuart From markc63@... Tue Nov 9 21:06:30 2010 From: markc63@... (mr_maudlin) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 20:06:30 -0000 Subject: 30 Dec 1995 Show - Festive Fifty part 2 Message-ID: Hi All, I trailed some time ago the fact that I would upload the second show of the 1995 Festive Fifty and here it is. I tried to improve the quality over the last upload (I set my itunes to use 192kbps and vbr). Let me know if this has made the files too big or not. There are two files, the first approx 45 mins, the second 78 mins. The news has been edited out. The original recording was made on HIFi VHS and then copied to minidisc. I used (and can recommend) Audacity 1.3.12 for copying. http://www.mediafire.com/?0707wanb3pmnzvp http://www.mediafire.com/?jshoe5hmhehzwvx regards, Mark C From pietre.tronne@... Tue Nov 9 22:36:12 2010 From: pietre.tronne@... (pietre.tronne) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:36:12 -0000 Subject: 'Unwholesome Stench Of Melody' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ah, the complete show. This should fill in some blank gaps in me memory too! many thanks Guys! Baz. From pietre.tronne@... Tue Nov 9 22:36:54 2010 From: pietre.tronne@... (pietre.tronne) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:36:54 -0000 Subject: Another 1991 Mixtape - Late Summer 1991 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks again guys! From iceage01@... Wed Nov 10 00:53:02 2010 From: iceage01@... (ckitlee) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 23:53:02 -0000 Subject: BFBS 19970516 Message-ID: Here's another BFBS show I recorded before BFBS switched off in Hong Kong in 1997. As you'll notice from the file name, it is in mono. As I recall, reception of BFBS was rather poor then and very often the signal came in mono, or even if it is stereo, I would switch it to mono to reduce the noise. Moreover, I now know that all the background noise is the result of a badly received signal rather than a poor video tape machine as all the noise disappears in the blank tape following the programme. So you might have to bear with it as many of the programmes I've got have similar noise. Hopefully the tapes from Carsten which Steve (TK) is uploading had a better quality. BFBS 19970516 Mono.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/?ppzeh31ia8n7k6u Cheers CK From stuartb@... Wed Nov 10 14:36:18 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:36:18 -0000 Subject: Best of Peel Early Autumn 1991 - new mixtape Message-ID: Contains a new contender for the first play of PJ Harvey, a complete Babes in Toyland session, a Bleach session track, a couple of Hardcore Urban 12" and more, in excellent quality 220-260 kbps vbr. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Early_Autumn_1991 Stuart From stuartb@... Thu Nov 11 03:25:21 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:25:21 -0000 Subject: Peel Mid Autumn 1991 Mixtape Message-ID: A few more gaps filled here. Contains JP playing entire Cherry EP by Curve, and tracks from the show of 3rd November including the complete Nirvana and PJ Harvey sessions. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Mid_Autumn_1991 Also updated the 3rd November page Stuart From borisrangelov@... Thu Nov 11 17:42:59 2010 From: borisrangelov@... (Boris) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:42:59 -0000 Subject: BBC WS Oct 1989 Message-ID: There is a new incomplete World Service show: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_October_1989_(BBC_World_Service) (link may not work) Features Extreme Noise Terror and Nirvana - Been a son. Boris From stuartb@... Thu Nov 11 18:09:05 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:09:05 -0000 Subject: Autumn 1991 trilogy complete Message-ID: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_Autumn_1991 Stuart From stuartb@... Fri Nov 12 02:56:35 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:56:35 -0000 Subject: Peel Early Feb 1992 mixtape Message-ID: A bit of a jump from Nov 1991, not sure why there is such a big gap there. Anyway looks like I caught the bug again, so this collection is from the first half of February 1992. It contains what might be the best sounding version yet of the Bang Bang Machine session, and also includes the complete second Moose session. It also happens to contain the Fall's 12th.... http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Early_Feb_1992 Stuart From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Nov 12 03:33:17 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 02:33:17 -0000 Subject: Vienna Calling Message-ID: Just a quickie that I've had hiding in my collection for a while, with many thanks to the original taper. Sadly, he only seems to have one more of these, which I'll post over the weekend. Date: 06 September 1993 (O3) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_September_1993_%28%C3%963%29 Best wishes Steve (TK) From paul@... Fri Nov 12 08:05:33 2010 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:05:33 +0000 Subject: 2010 Festive 50 Message-ID: <1A10925F-ABC3-4287-AE41-2F6758A5CE89@...> Dandelion Radio continues the Festive 50 tradition (our 5th) - with listener votes for favourite tracks of the year being compiled to make the Festive 50 show that will start playing on Christmas Day and then every day until the end of January (along with our regular shows). Voting closes at the end of November. To make your vote count visit http://www.dandelionradio.com/festive50.htm Paul Webster Backroom at Dandelion Radio From rwprov52@... Fri Nov 12 13:22:35 2010 From: rwprov52@... (Robert Provan) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:22:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: password Message-ID: <90535.37064.qm@...> From rwprov52@... Fri Nov 12 13:38:29 2010 From: rwprov52@... (Robert Provan) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Password Message-ID: <874629.44945.qm@...> How do I get a password for mooo.peelwiki.com? Is my username just the one I use for this group? From stuartb@... Fri Nov 12 13:51:29 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:51:29 -0000 Subject: [peel] Password In-Reply-To: <874629.44945.qm@...> References: <874629.44945.qm@...> Message-ID: <714FEC9E20CE41979A44803BA18B9037@Stuartnew> Hi Robert The address is actually www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup User is peel and pass is group This just gives you download access More information is available on the Peel Wiki http://peel.wikia.com Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Provan Sent: 12 November 2010 12:38 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Password How do I get a password for mooo.peelwiki.com? Is my username just the one I use for this group? From rwprov52@... Fri Nov 12 14:47:26 2010 From: rwprov52@... (Robert Provan) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:47:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Password Message-ID: <127051.84218.qm@...> Thanks to all you guys. Being one of the older Peel fans - first Top Gear listened to Jan '68 - I'm getting a bit lost in all this wiki stuff   Robert  From dutch_record_59@... Fri Nov 12 19:11:43 2010 From: dutch_record_59@... (dutch_record_59) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:11:43 -0000 Subject: spam?? Message-ID: I noticed the last days, a lot of the messages are in my spam box, don't know why! It's been all normal messages... I assume I am not the only one!? Gert From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Nov 14 02:51:38 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:51:38 -0000 Subject: Vienna Calling (for the last time?) Message-ID: As promised, the final instalment in a series which has been illuminating and most enjoyable. Many thanks to the taper. Date: 05 September 1994 (O3) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/05_September_1994_%28%C3%963%29 Best wishes Steve (TK) From jimmystep@... Sun Nov 14 21:38:51 2010 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:38:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Vienna Calling (for the last time?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <801083.30575.qm@...> (JP: 'If there has been such a thing as a genius in the whole history of popular music, then Don Van Vliet might easily be that genius.') not much more can be said about that! --- On Sun, 14/11/10, So It Goes 2512 wrote: From: So It Goes 2512 Subject: [peel] Vienna Calling (for the last time?) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 14 November, 2010, 1:51 As promised, the final instalment in a series which has been illuminating and most enjoyable. Many thanks to the taper. Date: 05 September 1994 (O3) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/05_September_1994_%28%C3%963%29 Best wishes Steve (TK) ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Nov 15 17:08:58 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:08:58 -0000 Subject: Big Red Book Message-ID: A recent plea for more 1995 prompted me to share this one from Carsten. Transmitted two days before Christmas, it contains but one Yuletide tune. However, it does feature an extensive description by John of his appearance on This Is Your Life, which I have also transcribed on the Wiki. Date: 23 December 1995 (BFBS) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_December_1995_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve (TK) From tabdrinkink74@... Mon Nov 15 18:03:20 2010 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:03:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Big Red Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62342.65081.qm@...> Excellent work Steve! Thank you for your continuing efforts. Nice early play for Thomas Bangaltar in that there show too, who later went on to be one half of Daft Punk (and hence turned into a robot). Warmth, thomas ________________________________ From: So It Goes 2512 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 16 November, 2010 3:08:58 Subject: [peel] Big Red Book A recent plea for more 1995 prompted me to share this one from Carsten. Transmitted two days before Christmas, it contains but one Yuletide tune. However, it does feature an extensive description by John of his appearance on This Is Your Life, which I have also transcribed on the Wiki. Date: 23 December 1995 (BFBS) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_December_1995_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve (TK) From saipanda@... Mon Nov 15 20:18:20 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:18:20 -0000 Subject: Big Red Book In-Reply-To: <62342.65081.qm@...> Message-ID: Seconded! Excellent stuff, Steve. Many thanks indeed. Cheers, SW --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Excellent work Steve! Thank you for your continuing efforts. Nice early play for > Thomas Bangaltar in that there show too, who later went on to be one half of > Daft Punk (and hence turned into a robot). > > Warmth, > thomas > > > > > ________________________________ > From: So It Goes 2512 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 16 November, 2010 3:08:58 > Subject: [peel] Big Red Book > > > A recent plea for more 1995 prompted me to share this one from Carsten. > Transmitted two days before Christmas, it contains but one Yuletide tune. > However, it does feature an extensive description by John of his appearance on > This Is Your Life, which I have also transcribed on the Wiki. > > Date: 23 December 1995 (BFBS) > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_December_1995_%28BFBS%29 > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 16 04:39:50 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 03:39:50 -0000 Subject: Brought To You By The Letter P And The Numbers 45-41 Message-ID: This show has already been shared by Isector in an incomplete form, but thanks to another taper and also due to the joys of overlapping recordings, I can now present to you the whole thing from start to finish without a single second absent. Date: 05 January 2000 All-Time FF: 45-41 Peelenium: 1993 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/05_January_2000 Note that this now replaces the incomplete version on the Mooo and I recommend you delete the earlier file and replace it with this. Thanks also for the appreciation of my last BFBS upload: it was completed as I suffered from a raging cold, so a labour of love it was. Best wishes Steve (TK) From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 16 19:40:35 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:40:35 -0000 Subject: Serious Parenting Message-ID: What is an 'incomplete' Peel show? I tend to treat any recording with one or more tracks missing as such, but in this case they're at the start of the show, a total of less than four minutes is absent from a full three hours, and the quality is so outstanding that I cannot imagine this being bettered. So, a complete show: Date: 23 April 1993 Sessions: Submarine, Unsane Phantom Fifty: #21 (held over from the previous show as John had left it at home) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_April_1993 Thanks yet again to Isector. Best wishes Steve (TK) From parkermike81@... Tue Nov 16 22:40:11 2010 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:40:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Serious Parenting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <923872.75973.qm@...> cheers very much to steve and the tapers and anyone else who`s posted shows lately,enjoyed peel talking about his ''this is your life'' experience on one of them the other day,gem of a show. cheers mp. --- On Tue, 16/11/10, So It Goes 2512 wrote: From: So It Goes 2512 Subject: [peel] Serious Parenting To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 18:40   What is an 'incomplete' Peel show? I tend to treat any recording with one or more tracks missing as such, but in this case they're at the start of the show, a total of less than four minutes is absent from a full three hours, and the quality is so outstanding that I cannot imagine this being bettered. So, a complete show: Date: 23 April 1993 Sessions: Submarine, Unsane Phantom Fifty: #21 (held over from the previous show as John had left it at home) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_April_1993 Thanks yet again to Isector. Best wishes Steve (TK) From rockerq@... Thu Nov 18 02:53:03 2010 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:53:03 EST Subject: Big Weekend Ahoy! Message-ID: Hi All! Quick update on some DJ gigs I have coming up - if you can get to London this looks like being a killer weekend! ‘BROADCAST ONE’ CD - FREE LAUNCH PARTY IN LONDON THIS SATURDAY AFTERNOON - NOV 20th: To mark next week’s release of Dandelion Radio’s first ever compilation album, Hazel Winter, Spidersleg, Alisia Casper and The Chasms will be performing live at RoTa @ Notting Hill Arts Club, 19-21 Notting Hill Gate, London W11 3JQ - from 4pm - 8pm this Saturday. I'll be DJing alongside fellow Dandelion Radio DJs Mark Cunliffe, Pete Jackson, Andrew Morrison, and Matt Gunn. The CD will be released by Odd Box Records on Monday November 22nd, and will be available to buy at the gig. http://www.dandelionradio.com/broadcast http://oddboxrecords.com http://www.roughtrade.com/site/content.lasso?page=rota.html http://www.myspace.com/rotaclub http://www.myspace.com/thechasms http://www.myspace.com/hazelwinter http://www.myspace.com/spidersleg http://www.myspace.com/alisiacasper http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=159718177393409 HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE LOVED: Saturday November 20th 2010 - 9pm - 3am - How Does It Feel To Be Loved @ The Phoenix, 37 Cavendish Square,  London, W1G 0PP - I'm the guest DJ this month, and will be playing from around 10pm. Everyone who comes to the CD launch party in the afternoon will be able to get a quid off the door price, just pick up a flyer from the merchandise stall. How Does It Feel is London's premier indie night, this will be busy - by midnight it's usually one in - one out - so get there early! http://www.dandelionradio.com/rocker http://www.myspace.com/hdif http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk THE HANGOVER LOUNGE: Sunday November 21st 2010 - 2pm - 7pm - The Hangover Lounge @ The Lexington, 96 - 98 Pentonville Road, London N1 9JB. After a hectic Saturday I will be guesting at The Hangover Lounge on Sunday afternoon. Entry is free and I'm told they serve decent food! I will be playing a special set which will include some film soundtracks and chilled stuff - throwing in a few things which I can't get away with in my normal sets! http://www.dandelionradio.com/rocker http://www.thelexington.co.uk LAST CHANCE TO VOTE IN THE OFFICIAL 2010 FESTIVE FIFTY: Dandelion Radio continues to keep John Peel’s annual listeners’ poll alive, and you can get involved! If you’ve not already voted, simply tell us your three favourite tracks from 2010 at www.dandelionradio.com/festive50 and we’ll do the rest. But you must vote soon! The poll closes on 30th November, so have a good think about which artists and tunes have most excited you this year, and get your choices in straight away. We’re hoping to make this year’s poll our biggest and most varied yet. All entries will be entered into a prize draw to win CDs and John Peel related books. Everyone’s choices will be compiled into a countdown show that will play daily at different times from Christmas Day until the end of January. Please forward this email to your friends, encouraging them to vote as well! www.dandelionradio.com/festive50 ‘BROADCAST ONE’ RELEASED MONDAY: ‘Broadcast One: New Music Handpicked By Dandelion Radio’ is released Monday 22nd November on Odd Box Records, and features over an hour of exciting new music and exclusive Dandelion Radio sessions. The CD will be available from all good real and online record stores, but to order your copy at the bargain price of £6 direct from Odd Box Records, visit www.dandelionradio.com/broadcast - where you can see the full tracklisting and find out more about Saturday’s launch gig. For a taster of the compilation, listen to our Broadcast One ‘Bonus Disc’ Special playing daily as part of our November schedule, featuring songs by 10 artists on the CD – but different tunes to those on the album. http://www.dandelionradio.com/broadcast LISTEN NOW: Hear my November show coming round daily in the loop at www.dandelionradio.com. Cheers! Rocker From ken_garner@... Fri Nov 19 17:24:05 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:24:05 -0000 Subject: Decktician's Log, Volume 1: Top Gear 1969-09-21 > 1970-12-26 Message-ID: I have now completed scanning and annotating (refering to my own old copies of PasBs) the first volume (of 5) of Decktician's logs of running orders of Peel shows. They cover 5 periods between 1969 and 1975, with gaps between, but each period in each volume is nearly (if not quite) complete between its start and end dates. Volume 1 is hand written running orders from September 69 Top Gears right through to the end of 1970. One or two shows are missing, and one or two incomplete, but I have been able to complete these gaps, once I had all my data in order in front of me, as it were. On many occasions decktician's log differs very slightly from the official script, in ways in which it is clear to me that he is almost certainly right, and the PasB slightly wrong - tracks played in a slightly different order, one long session track actually NOT played, and so on. The Sunday Show concerts in 1970 were not logged, it is Top Gear only. But we now have complete, 99% reliable running orders in some form for every Top Gear from 21/9/69 to 26/12/1970. And here is where you come in... I have forwarded the compressed file of jpg scans of decktician's original pages plus a word document with notes and details filling gaps and so on, to Steve and Steve at the Peel Wiki. If you would like to volunteer to help type these up into the wiki for all to enjoy, contact them and they will pass the stuff, or bits of it, to you. My OCR software was useless for these handwritten pages (it's pretty useless for old typed PasBs too!), which is why i have left them as enhanced jpg scans. But they are legible and comprehensible: Decktitican had a habit of circling the number for tracks if they were album tracks; session tracks can be identified easily by cross-refering to the shows and sessionography in my book; and everything else, er, must be a single, by definition! There are occasional slight differences in track titles, understandably, but where the eventual/common title can be clearly inferred/deduced, I have not commented on this. But there may be things clear to me that might not be so to you, so ask me if any insurmountable issues emerge. I am now moving on to volume 2, which jumps to 1972 and includes some exciting revelations I can tell you. Oh yes. Once Rocker's team of reel to reel tape rippers get going, it is just possible, says decktician, that some of the tapes will be from this first period. But even if not, the running orders in themselves are a great find, for which we are all in his debt: thanks, ken From saipanda@... Sat Nov 20 08:05:08 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:05:08 -0000 Subject: Decktician's Log, Volume 1: Top Gear 1969-09-21 > 1970-12-26 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Seems like my message last night hasn't got through, so rather than reprise everything, just let me say again many, many thanks indeed to Decktician for this amazing treasure trove. Also to Ken for all his work copying and adding further info, especially in view of his recent illness, plus Rocker as always for acting as central HQ for this and other group projects. All very much appreciated. Further to Ken's message, the first set of Decktician logs are an incredible source of information on the running orders of Top Gear shows in late 1969/1970. Will be transferring the data to the wiki as soon as possible, so if people want to help out with a bit of typing, please get in touch with me of list and we divide up the work a bit. Thinking to concentrate on typing up what we have from the logs first and getting that up, so please check the wiki for updates. Extra help with adding session details and external links for releases (Wikipedia, discogs, etc) should just be a matter of adding the necessary to the relevant wiki pages (press the red edit button at the top of the page or section, make the changes, preview and save), so please feel free to go ahead with any additional edits. Once again, many thanks indeed to Decktician, Ken and Rocker! Can't wait for further installments of the logs - really fascinating stuff - and hearing the results of the tapes once they roll round as well. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > > I have now completed scanning and annotating (refering to my own old copies of PasBs) the first volume (of 5) of Decktician's logs of running orders of Peel shows. They cover 5 periods between 1969 and 1975, with gaps between, but each period in each volume is nearly (if not quite) complete between its start and end dates. > > Volume 1 is hand written running orders from September 69 Top Gears right through to the end of 1970. One or two shows are missing, and one or two incomplete, but I have been able to complete these gaps, once I had all my data in order in front of me, as it were. On many occasions decktician's log differs very slightly from the official script, in ways in which it is clear to me that he is almost certainly right, and the PasB slightly wrong - tracks played in a slightly different order, one long session track actually NOT played, and so on. The Sunday Show concerts in 1970 were not logged, it is Top Gear only. But we now have complete, 99% reliable running orders in some form for every Top Gear from 21/9/69 to 26/12/1970. > > And here is where you come in... > > I have forwarded the compressed file of jpg scans of decktician's original pages plus a word document with notes and details filling gaps and so on, to Steve and Steve at the Peel Wiki. If you would like to volunteer to help type these up into the wiki for all to enjoy, contact them and they will pass the stuff, or bits of it, to you. > > My OCR software was useless for these handwritten pages (it's pretty useless for old typed PasBs too!), which is why i have left them as enhanced jpg scans. But they are legible and comprehensible: Decktitican had a habit of circling the number for tracks if they were album tracks; session tracks can be identified easily by cross-refering to the shows and sessionography in my book; and everything else, er, must be a single, by definition! There are occasional slight differences in track titles, understandably, but where the eventual/common title can be clearly inferred/deduced, I have not commented on this. But there may be things clear to me that might not be so to you, so ask me if any insurmountable issues emerge. > > I am now moving on to volume 2, which jumps to 1972 and includes some exciting revelations I can tell you. Oh yes. > > Once Rocker's team of reel to reel tape rippers get going, it is just possible, says decktician, that some of the tapes will be from this first period. But even if not, the running orders in themselves are a great find, for which we are all in his debt: thanks, > > ken > From stuartb@... Sat Nov 20 12:21:51 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:21:51 -0000 Subject: Another new mixtape Message-ID: Mostly tracks from March 1992, but ends with the two live tracks Polly Harvey performed on the 1st May. Not much Peel linkage though does include a link where he says he is surprised by the end of Sheela-Na-Gig as it is the first time he has played the record. Presumably he is referring to the first time he as played the version on "Dry" as the single was released in February and it was a session track in 1991... Includes sessions from House Of Love and Verve, and where the tracks overlap with previously available shows, the sound is slightly clearer on this tape. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Spring_1992 Stuart From stuartb@... Sat Nov 20 12:25:47 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:25:47 -0000 Subject: Concert tapes - any interest? Message-ID: I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? Stuart From davidquantick@... Sat Nov 20 13:24:51 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:24:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <583743.65183.qm@...> Hell. Yeah. --- On Sat, 20/11/10, Stuart wrote: From: Stuart Subject: [peel] Concert tapes - any interest? To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 November, 2010, 11:25   I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? Stuart From dj.cooper1@... Sat Nov 20 13:34:09 2010 From: dj.cooper1@... (David Cooper) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:34:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CE7C041.2070304@...> Oh yes indeedee! Do you have a list? Rgrds David On 20/11/2010 11:25 AM, Stuart wrote: > I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? > > Stuart > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > From paulebbs@... Sat Nov 20 14:16:25 2010 From: paulebbs@... (paulebbs@...) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:16:25 +0000 Subject: [peel] Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1996651785-1290258982-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1714609347-@...> Nods a lot Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Stuart" Sender: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:25:47 To: Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Concert tapes - any interest? I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? Stuart From stuartb@... Sat Nov 20 14:26:37 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:26:37 -0000 Subject: Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: <4CE7C041.2070304@...> Message-ID: OK, this is what I can find on my spreadsheet: Siouxsie And The Banshees Glasgow c 1982 Radio Clyde New Order Glasgow c 1982 Radio Clyde Psychedelic Furs c 1983 Tom Robinson c 1983 Misty In Roots Radio 1 c 1983 Third World Glastonbury c 1983 Green on Red c 1984 Icicle Works c 1983/1984 Untouchables c 1984 Triffids c 1984 Cult c 1985 Aztec Camera c 1985 Primevals c 1985 Smiths c 1986 Fall 1986 Echo & Bunnymen 1986 Cure 1986 Cure 1986 (another one) John Martyn 1986 Robert Cray 1987 Troublefunk 1987 Echo And Bunnymen 1988 Elvis Costello 1988 Screaming Blue Messiahs 1988 Simple Minds Mandela Concert 1988 Cure 1989 Aswad 1989 Blue Nile 1990 Charlatans 1990 Icicle Works 1990 Pixies 1991 House of Love 1992 Moose c 1992 Slowdive c 1992 Chapterhouse c 1992 Teenage Fanclub 1992 Catherine Wheel 1992 Fall Spring 1992 La's 1992 Gary Clail 1992 PJ Harvey late 1992 Ride late 1992 Sonic YOuth Dec 1992 Fall Dec 1993 Dread Zone 1994 Ride 1994 Echobelly 1994 Elastica 1994 Lush 1994 Sleeper 1994 Zion Train 1996 Garbage Sound City 1996 Sleeper Sound City 1996 Cardigans Sound City 1996 Ash Sound City 1996 Bluetones Sound City 1996 Orbital Sound City 1996 Chemical Brothers Sound City 1996 Prodigy Sound City 1996 Radiohead 1996 T In Park 1996 Pulp V96 Ash 1997 Portishead NY 1997 Roni Size & Reprazent Live at Maida Vale 1997 Beta Band Breezeblock session PJ Harvey 2000 There may be more when I look at the actual tapes Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Cooper wrote: > > Oh yes indeedee! > > Do you have a list? > > Rgrds > David > > On 20/11/2010 11:25 AM, Stuart wrote: > > I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From k.j.beech@... Sat Nov 20 15:42:06 2010 From: k.j.beech@... (kevin beech) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:42:06 -0000 Subject: Concert tapes - any interest? Message-ID: <016c01cb88c1$1a6f2b70$5101a8c0@your447023ae6b> this is fantastic you sir are a star... kevin. From tabdrinkink74@... Sat Nov 20 17:04:13 2010 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:04:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: <016c01cb88c1$1a6f2b70$5101a8c0@your447023ae6b> References: <016c01cb88c1$1a6f2b70$5101a8c0@your447023ae6b> Message-ID: <278310.74668.qm@...> Agreed. Looks like a great list. ________________________________ From: kevin beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 1:42:06 Subject: [peel] Re: Concert tapes - any interest? this is fantastic you sir are a star... kevin. From billfromnorthwales@... Sat Nov 20 19:46:51 2010 From: billfromnorthwales@... (billfromnorthwales) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:46:51 -0000 Subject: Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Peelsters, i do hope I can get some time from work to get back in the groove and contribute more here. Bring on those concerts!!!! Thanks Stuart. The concert tapes I recorded are mainly from the 70's and quite a few have seen some CD releases, but my list goes something like this No Band Broadcast Date(s) Minutes 1 Deep Purple Jul-74 90 2 Man / Gasworks Nov-74 60 3 Pink Floyd 11-Jan-75 Sep-74 50 4 Genesis (1) Jul-75 15-Apr-75 60 5 Queen 26-Dec-75 60 6 Rick Wakeman Jun-76 60 7 Wishbone Ash (1) Nov-76 30 8 Steve Hillage (1) Dec-76 40 9 Renaissance (1) 08-Jan-77 60 10 Santana 15-Jan-77 60 11 Rory Gallagher (1) 29-Jan-77 60 12 Jethro Tull (1) 19-Feb-77 60 13 Paice Ashton Lord 12-Mar-77 60 14 Sassafras 30-Jul-77 60 15 Led Zeppelin (1) 05-Aug-77 1971 60 16 Electric Light Orchestra 06-Aug-77 60 17 Pink Floyd (2) 12-Aug-77 1971 60 18 Camel (1) 08-Oct-77 60 19 Racing Cars 15-Oct-77 60 20 John Otway / AC/DC 29-Oct-77 60 21 Steve Gibbons 26-Nov-77 60 22 Supertramp (1) Dec-77 60 23 Ian Dury (1) / Dr Feelgood 10-Dec-77 60 24 Thin Lizzy 23-Dec-77 Jul-73 40 25 Todd Rungrens Utopia 24-Dec-77 60 26 Faces 26-Dec-77 60 27 Stranglers 27-Dec-77 60 28 Gentle Giant 21-Jan-78 60 29 John Miles Feb-78 40 30 Gordon Giltrap Feb-78 40 31 Colosseum II Feb-78 40 32 Tom Robinson / Sad Café Feb-78 60 33 Gallagher & Lyle Jun-78 40 34 Ian Dury (2) Aug-78 60 35 The Late Show / The Jolt Aug-78 60 36 Genesis (2) Aug-78 04-Jul-78 90 37 Family 26-Aug-78 1971 60 38 The Motors Sep-78 40 39 The Byrds Sep-78 40 40 Renaissance (2) Oct-78 40 41 Jethro Tull (2) Oct-78 60 42 Bram Tchaikovsky/ Judas Priest Nov-78 60 43 Wishbone Ash (2) Nov-78 60 44 Magazine Dec-78 40 45 Racing Cars (2) /Gordon Giltrap (1) 09-Dec-78 60 46 Boomtown Rats 23-Dec-78 60 47 Genesis (3) 29-Dec-78 04-Jul-78 90 48 Lene Lovich/Rachel Sweet/Wreckless Eric 14-Jan-79 60 49 Rory Gallagher (2) 17-Feb-79 60 50 Export 19-Feb-79 15 51 Cheap Trick 19-Feb-79 60 52 Wailing Cocks 24-Feb-79 40 53 Horslips 24-Feb-79 30 54 Skids 10-Mar-79 40 55 Magnum 10-Mar-79 40 55 Fingerprintz / Red Noise 24-Mar-79 60 56 Frankie Miller 31-Mar-79 60 55 Pink Floyd (3) 13-Apr-79 1974 50 56 Bethnal / Leyton Buzzards 14-Apr-79 60 57 Graham Parker and the Rumour 21-Apr-79 60 58 Steve Hillage (2) 28-Apr-79 60 59 Mike Oldfield 29-Apr-79 120 60 Fabulous Poodles / Motorhead 23-May-79 60 61 Yes 01-Jun-79 120 62 Roxy Music 02-Jun-79 60 63 Whitesnake (1) 05-Oct-79 40 64 Gillan (1) 06-Oct-79 40 65 Rush 12-Oct-79 40 66 Wishbone Ash Nov-79 30 67 Gary Newman Nov-79 30 68 Sky Nov-79 30 69 Rory Gallagher 03-Nov-79 60 70 Jam 22-Dec-79 40 71 Led Zeppelin (2) 28-Dec-79 27-Jun-69 60 72 Cozy Powell 29-Dec-79 40 73 Modern Eon / OMD 1980 60 74 Kinks 1980 40 75 John Martyn 1980 40 76 Ian Dury (3) 1980 60 77 UB40 1980 60 78 Camel (2) 1980 60 79 Joe Jackson (1) Feb-80 40 80 Gillan (3) and Interview Mar-80 40 81 Split Enz Mar-80 60 82 U.F.O 15-Mar-80 60 83 Police Apr-80 60 84 Genesis (4) Jul-80 90 85 Gillan (2) Aug-80 60 86 Ian Hunter 09-Aug-80 60 87 Wishbone Ash 16-Aug-80 60 88 Elvis Costello 25-Aug-80 60 89 Led Zeppelin 03-Oct-80 1971 60 90 Whitesnake (2) 11-Oct-80 60 91 Genesis (5) 26-Dec-80 120 92 Joe Jackson (2) 27-Dec-80 40 93 Deep Purple (2) 1986 60 95 The Christians 1986 60 96 Blancmange 1986 40 97 New Order 1986 30 98 Genesis (6) 02-Feb-86 15-Apr-75 60 99 Level 42 1987 60 100 Genesis (7) 04-Jul-87 120 No 46 is I believe Peelies last "In Concert" (unless someone knows better) and no 41 was one of his least favourite broadcasts (I bet) (BBC2 hijacked FM for a simulcast) I have some wonderful stuff also from Dead Earnest (a member here aka Andy) and they are fantastic rare early 70's and will be available soon. So I would like to put them on my mooo page. Do you know how I can get upload permissions? Hello again everyone! Bill fnw --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? > > Stuart > From viynljohn@... Sat Nov 20 21:40:19 2010 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:40:19 -0000 Subject: Concert tapes - any interest? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This just gets better and better!! bring 'em on.... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > > Hello Peelsters, > > i do hope I can get some time from work to get back in the groove and contribute more here. > > Bring on those concerts!!!! Thanks Stuart. > > The concert tapes I recorded are mainly from the 70's and quite a few have seen some CD releases, but my list goes something like this > > No Band Broadcast Date(s) Minutes > > 1 Deep Purple Jul-74 90 > 2 Man / Gasworks Nov-74 60 > 3 Pink Floyd 11-Jan-75 Sep-74 50 > 4 Genesis (1) Jul-75 15-Apr-75 60 > 5 Queen 26-Dec-75 60 > 6 Rick Wakeman Jun-76 60 > 7 Wishbone Ash (1) Nov-76 30 > 8 Steve Hillage (1) Dec-76 40 > 9 Renaissance (1) 08-Jan-77 60 > 10 Santana 15-Jan-77 60 > 11 Rory Gallagher (1) 29-Jan-77 60 > 12 Jethro Tull (1) 19-Feb-77 60 > 13 Paice Ashton Lord 12-Mar-77 60 > 14 Sassafras 30-Jul-77 60 > 15 Led Zeppelin (1) 05-Aug-77 1971 60 > 16 Electric Light Orchestra 06-Aug-77 60 > 17 Pink Floyd (2) 12-Aug-77 1971 60 > 18 Camel (1) 08-Oct-77 60 > 19 Racing Cars 15-Oct-77 60 > 20 John Otway / AC/DC 29-Oct-77 60 > 21 Steve Gibbons 26-Nov-77 60 > 22 Supertramp (1) Dec-77 60 > 23 Ian Dury (1) / Dr Feelgood 10-Dec-77 60 > 24 Thin Lizzy 23-Dec-77 Jul-73 40 > 25 Todd Rungrens Utopia 24-Dec-77 60 > 26 Faces 26-Dec-77 60 > 27 Stranglers 27-Dec-77 60 > 28 Gentle Giant 21-Jan-78 60 > 29 John Miles Feb-78 40 > 30 Gordon Giltrap Feb-78 40 > 31 Colosseum II Feb-78 40 > 32 Tom Robinson / Sad Café Feb-78 60 > 33 Gallagher & Lyle Jun-78 40 > 34 Ian Dury (2) Aug-78 60 > 35 The Late Show / The Jolt Aug-78 60 > 36 Genesis (2) Aug-78 04-Jul-78 90 > 37 Family 26-Aug-78 1971 60 > 38 The Motors Sep-78 40 > 39 The Byrds Sep-78 40 > 40 Renaissance (2) Oct-78 40 > 41 Jethro Tull (2) Oct-78 60 > 42 Bram Tchaikovsky/ Judas Priest Nov-78 60 > 43 Wishbone Ash (2) Nov-78 60 > 44 Magazine Dec-78 40 > 45 Racing Cars (2) /Gordon Giltrap (1) 09-Dec-78 60 > 46 Boomtown Rats 23-Dec-78 60 > 47 Genesis (3) 29-Dec-78 04-Jul-78 90 > 48 Lene Lovich/Rachel Sweet/Wreckless Eric 14-Jan-79 60 > 49 Rory Gallagher (2) 17-Feb-79 60 > 50 Export 19-Feb-79 15 > 51 Cheap Trick 19-Feb-79 60 > 52 Wailing Cocks 24-Feb-79 40 > 53 Horslips 24-Feb-79 30 > 54 Skids 10-Mar-79 40 > 55 Magnum 10-Mar-79 40 > 55 Fingerprintz / Red Noise 24-Mar-79 60 > 56 Frankie Miller 31-Mar-79 60 > 55 Pink Floyd (3) 13-Apr-79 1974 50 > 56 Bethnal / Leyton Buzzards 14-Apr-79 60 > 57 Graham Parker and the Rumour 21-Apr-79 60 > 58 Steve Hillage (2) 28-Apr-79 60 > 59 Mike Oldfield 29-Apr-79 120 > 60 Fabulous Poodles / Motorhead 23-May-79 60 > 61 Yes 01-Jun-79 120 > 62 Roxy Music 02-Jun-79 60 > 63 Whitesnake (1) 05-Oct-79 40 > 64 Gillan (1) 06-Oct-79 40 > 65 Rush 12-Oct-79 40 > 66 Wishbone Ash Nov-79 30 > 67 Gary Newman Nov-79 30 > 68 Sky Nov-79 30 > 69 Rory Gallagher 03-Nov-79 60 > 70 Jam 22-Dec-79 40 > 71 Led Zeppelin (2) 28-Dec-79 27-Jun-69 60 > 72 Cozy Powell 29-Dec-79 40 > 73 Modern Eon / OMD 1980 60 > 74 Kinks 1980 40 > 75 John Martyn 1980 40 > 76 Ian Dury (3) 1980 60 > 77 UB40 1980 60 > 78 Camel (2) 1980 60 > 79 Joe Jackson (1) Feb-80 40 > 80 Gillan (3) and Interview Mar-80 40 > 81 Split Enz Mar-80 60 > 82 U.F.O 15-Mar-80 60 > 83 Police Apr-80 60 > 84 Genesis (4) Jul-80 90 > 85 Gillan (2) Aug-80 60 > 86 Ian Hunter 09-Aug-80 60 > 87 Wishbone Ash 16-Aug-80 60 > 88 Elvis Costello 25-Aug-80 60 > 89 Led Zeppelin 03-Oct-80 1971 60 > 90 Whitesnake (2) 11-Oct-80 60 > 91 Genesis (5) 26-Dec-80 120 > 92 Joe Jackson (2) 27-Dec-80 40 > 93 Deep Purple (2) 1986 60 > 95 The Christians 1986 60 > 96 Blancmange 1986 40 > 97 New Order 1986 30 > 98 Genesis (6) 02-Feb-86 15-Apr-75 60 > 99 Level 42 1987 60 > 100 Genesis (7) 04-Jul-87 120 > > > No 46 is I believe Peelies last "In Concert" (unless someone knows better) and no 41 was one of his least favourite broadcasts (I bet) (BBC2 hijacked FM for a simulcast) > > I have some wonderful stuff also from Dead Earnest (a member here aka Andy) and they are fantastic rare early 70's and will be available soon. > > So I would like to put them on my mooo page. Do you know how I can get upload permissions? > > Hello again everyone! > > Bill fnw > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > I don't know if this has been done elsewhere, but quite a few of my old tapes are of live concerts of bands JP would play. That is, high quality radio broadcasts, not bootlegs, stretching back to the early 1980s. Is there any interest at all in these? > > > > Stuart > > > From stuartb@... Sun Nov 21 00:37:16 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:37:16 -0000 Subject: Mixtape Peel Mid 1992 Message-ID: Parenthood reduced my listening time in 1992 so it took nearly 3 months to fill up my next C90 - and that included some records and non-Peel radio tracks, removed from this digitisation. As usual with my recent compilations, direct Spotify links to tracks, where available (and apologies to non-Spotified countries) http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Mid_1992 Stuart From borisrangelov@... Mon Nov 22 17:40:25 2010 From: borisrangelov@... (Boris) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:40:25 -0000 Subject: Bend It! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Yours was the correct edit, which was replaced by one that is not. Actually, this is a single from 1974, featured on that compilation from where Peel took it in 1993. Here is the track/ single: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2idRhbTj94 As well as to what Peel says, we listen to what he plays, and on this occasion it is J. Cruyff himself. Regards, Boris --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > In the early 90's John played some miscellaneous football songs from > an album (or series of albums) called Bend It! > While doing research into a show tracklisting I have discovered that > one can be downloaded here > > http://cosmobells.blogspot.com/2009/11/bend-it-trattoria-menu3.html?zx=ba0222a1d3884a60 > > On the tape I've been researching John states that he doesn't know who > "Oei-Oei-Oei-Fantastico Cruyff Barcelona" is by. > > On the wiki for 6/4/93 > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_April_1993_%28John_Peel_Is_Jakki_Brambles%29 > it's listed as > > Fantastico Cruyff Barcelona: Oei, Oei, Oei (CD – Bent It! 91) Exotica > > According to the blog link above, and also this one: > http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~sight/bridge/bendit.htm > it is called "Oei-Oei-Oei-Fantastico Cruyff Barcelona" and it's by Johan Cruyff > > I have amended 6/4/93 accordingly. > > Cheers > > Alan > From saipanda@... Tue Nov 23 04:22:33 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 03:22:33 -0000 Subject: glasgow exhibition Message-ID: http://www.benrowe.co.uk/exhibitions_eclectic_peel.htm SW From jimmystep@... Tue Nov 23 10:22:54 2010 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:22:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] glasgow exhibition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48974.36585.qm@...> Magic, what else is there to do on a Saturday night in early December, up the east end of Glasgow! Cannot check blog sites from the work PC so shall investigate later tonight.   Thanks for that link Steve, I've got the 4th in my diary now.   Cheers......Jimmy --- On Tue, 23/11/10, steve wrote: From: steve Subject: [peel] glasgow exhibition To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 3:22 http://www.benrowe.co.uk/exhibitions_eclectic_peel.htm SW ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links From mar.celle@... Tue Nov 23 12:19:19 2010 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:19:19 +0100 Subject: Bend It! Message-ID: <000401cb8b00$46332950$9600000a@PC154981710422> As I'm Dutch i can fill you in with more info on the Cruiijff single: Originally the Dutch version Oei Oei Oeo Dat Was Me Weer Een Loei was released in 1969. the funny thing was that although the title could be about football (roughly translates as o, o, o that was another hard kick/blow), the lyrics are not about football at all (amongst others boxing), Cruijff performed it once on Dutch television, being totally shy and just mumbling. (totally oppostite to his usual behaviour which has always been full of flair) On the recording they had to get him (slightly) drunk in order to dare to sing at all (he was an awful singer). When Barcelona bought Cruijff from Ajax in 1973 a Spanish version of the song was made and that's the one on the Bend it compilation Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com (New mix/composition double vinyl LP available on Klangbad label!) (the Faust label) From ford.alan@... Tue Nov 23 20:17:07 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:17:07 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Bend It! In-Reply-To: <000401cb8b00$46332950$9600000a@PC154981710422> References: <000401cb8b00$46332950$9600000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: Thanks for this Marcelle. Do you have any of the Bend It comps? Alan On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Marcelle wrote: > > > *As I’m Dutch i can fill you in with more info on the Cruiijff single:* > > * * > > *Originally the * > > *Dutch version Oei Oei Oeo Dat Was Me Weer Een Loei was released in 1969. > the funny thing was that although the title could be about football (roughly > translates as o, o, o that was another hard kick/blow), the lyrics are not > about football at all (amongst others boxing), Cruijff performed it once on > Dutch television, being totally shy and just mumbling. (totally oppostite to > his usual behaviour which has always been full of flair)* > > *On the recording they had to get him (slightly) drunk in order to dare to > sing at all (he was an awful singer).* > > * * > > *When **Barcelona** bought Cruijff from **Ajax** in 1973 a Spanish version > of the song was made and that’s the one on the **Bend** it compilation* > > * * > > *Marcelle* > > *www.anothernicemess.com * > > *(New mix/composition double vinyl LP available on Klangbad label!) (the > Faust label)* > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Nov 24 04:07:35 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:07:35 -0000 Subject: SAW 37 Message-ID: Another from Mike's magic box, this time late September 1991 and three sessions. Title: Best Of Peel Vol 37 Sessions: Gore, Slowjam, Surgery Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_37 Best wishes Steve (TK) From ken_garner@... Wed Nov 24 22:00:22 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:00:22 -0000 Subject: Vote for The John Peel Centre for Creative Arts! Message-ID: just picked this up from facebook and john's last producer, Louise Kattenhorn. I Know nothing about it or how sound it is, but could be worth supporting! http://www.peoplesmillions.org.uk/2010-finalists/anglia/john-peel-centre-for-the-creative-arts From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Nov 25 02:37:37 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:37:37 -0000 Subject: Life's A Beach Message-ID: Complete version of a show with a hitherto partial existence. Well, the first track is missing, and there's a rather prominent jump in This Charming Man, but as near as dammit. Date: 18 January 2000 Session: Ui All-Time FF: 25-21 Peelenium: 1998 Many thanks to Isector. Best wishes Steve (TK) From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Nov 25 02:39:29 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:39:29 -0000 Subject: Life's A Beach In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Complete version of a show with a hitherto partial existence. > Well, the first track is missing, and there's a rather prominent jump in This Charming Man, but as near as dammit. > > Date: 18 January 2000 > Session: Ui > All-Time FF: 25-21 > Peelenium: 1998 > > Many thanks to Isector. > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/18_January_2000 From jimmystep@... Thu Nov 25 21:00:52 2010 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:00:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Vote for The John Peel Centre for Creative Arts! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <360981.4204.qm@...> The voting number is: Voting phone number: 0871 626 88 03 you know it makes sense --- On Wed, 24/11/10, ken wrote: From: ken Subject: [peel] Vote for The John Peel Centre for Creative Arts! To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 24 November, 2010, 21:00 just picked this up from facebook and john's last producer, Louise Kattenhorn. I Know nothing about it or how sound it is, but could be worth supporting! http://www.peoplesmillions.org.uk/2010-finalists/anglia/john-peel-centre-for-the-creative-arts ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Nov 26 21:21:42 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:21:42 -0000 Subject: BFBS Festive Fifty! Message-ID: Yes, you read it right. A real find here, where in response to a request from Hong Kong, John plays part of the 1995 FF chart in one of his BFBS shows: I wonder if this is the only time he did this? Date: 30 December 1995 (BFBS), although he says it is the first show of 1996. Maybe he was unaware of when they had scheduled it to go out? Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_December_1995_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve (TK) From rockerq@... Fri Nov 26 23:09:40 2010 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:09:40 EST Subject: [peel]Festive Fifty! Message-ID: <8c8c9.6fa680de.3a218a24@...> Quick reminder to all on the list that once again this Year Dandelion Radio are running the Festive 50. Voting closes as ever on November 30th, so you only have 4 days left to get yours in! We need to know your favourite three tracks from 2010. To vote, go to: http://www.dandelionradio.com/festive50 During December, while everyone else is going out and having fun, your Dandelion Radio DJs will be at home slaving over a hot PC compiling the 2010 Festive 50 rundown show - which will be streaming in the loop on Dandelion Radio from Midnight GMT on December 24th, until the end of January 2011. Cheers! Rocker From stuartb@... Sat Nov 27 02:03:52 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 01:03:52 -0000 Subject: My last tapes from 1992 Message-ID: Many thanks to Steve and the tapers for the latest shows! Here are my latest works: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mainly_Peel_Late_Autumn_1992 Contains a session from PJ Harvey, a sole session track from Mr Ray's Wig World, and a miniature section of the Mark Goodier show with the Wedding Present session. Sound not as good as some of my recent tapes, the bass seems to be overloading a shade on the TDK D. Not to worry, for 1993 I invested in some Maxell XLii-S and they sound fantastic, will follow up with these soon. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mainly_Peel_December_1992 Contains some tracks from the Klesmatics sessions, one from the Kitchens Of Distinction, and ends with some tracks from the Essential Selection best of the year show, though most of the tracks JP also played. I'm again struck by JP's ear for 12" dance in all its forms, each of these mixtapes contains an ace 12" from the 80 AUM stable which sound fantastic to this day. (And I suppose I must have had reasonable taste in deciding to keep them...) Stuart From stuartb@... Sat Nov 27 13:37:30 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:37:30 -0000 Subject: Forgot to notify - Mixtape Peel Late Feb 1992 Message-ID: Wondered why nobody had downloaded this mixtape - then realised I forgot to send a message to the group. Fairly short 53 minute tape, one for completists really as most tracks are from available shows, but a couple are from unshared or unshared bits of shows. Contains complete sessions from Revolver and Curve. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_Feb_1992 From rockerq@... Sat Nov 27 17:54:46 2010 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:54:46 EST Subject: [peel] Vote for The John Peel Centre for Creative Arts! Message-ID: Great News!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-11853554 Cheers! Rocker From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Nov 28 01:12:26 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:12:26 -0000 Subject: Forgot to notify - Mixtape Peel Late Feb 1992 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Stuart, there doesn't appear to be a link for this on the Wiki. Many thanks for all your shares too! Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Wondered why nobody had downloaded this mixtape - then realised I forgot to send a message to the group. > > Fairly short 53 minute tape, one for completists really as most tracks are from available shows, but a couple are from unshared or unshared bits of shows. Contains complete sessions from Revolver and Curve. > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_Feb_1992 > From stuartb@... Sun Nov 28 02:22:55 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:22:55 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Forgot to notify - Mixtape Peel Late Feb 1992 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're right, it seems I was making doubly sure no-one could download! Sorted now Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of So It Goes 2512 Sent: 28 November 2010 00:12 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: Forgot to notify - Mixtape Peel Late Feb 1992 Hi Stuart, there doesn't appear to be a link for this on the Wiki. Many thanks for all your shares too! Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" wrote: > > Wondered why nobody had downloaded this mixtape - then realised I forgot to send a message to the group. > > Fairly short 53 minute tape, one for completists really as most tracks are from available shows, but a couple are from unshared or unshared bits of shows. Contains complete sessions from Revolver and Curve. > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_Feb_1992 > From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sun Nov 28 12:58:20 2010 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show? Message-ID: <705174.30480.qm@...> Hi All, I'm just wondering if anyone on here records Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show (Friday nights)?  I wanted to here the one from Friday 19 November but missed it before it disappeared off the iPlayer.  Greatful for any help. Best regards, Neil From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sun Nov 28 13:16:11 2010 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:16:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show? In-Reply-To: <705174.30480.qm@...> References: <705174.30480.qm@...> Message-ID: <568648.64963.qm@...> > "I wanted to here the one ...." > .... > "Greatful for any help." * "hear" and "grateful"!  I MUST (a) not rush my mails and (b) read them back before pressing the Send button!  [cringe!] Neil ________________________________ From: Neil Jenkins To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 11:58:20 Subject: [peel] Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show?   Hi All, I'm just wondering if anyone on here records Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show (Friday nights)?  I wanted to here the one from Friday 19 November but missed it before it disappeared off the iPlayer.  Greatful for any help. Best regards, Neil From parkermike81@... Sun Nov 28 15:08:51 2010 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:08:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show? In-Reply-To: <568648.64963.qm@...> Message-ID: <854874.53221.qm@...> http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup peelgroup insessionSun, 28/11/10, Neil Jenkins wrote: From: Neil Jenkins Subject: Re: [peel] Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show? To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 28 November, 2010, 12:16   > "I wanted to here the one ...." > .... > "Greatful for any help."   * "hear" and "grateful"!  I MUST (a) not rush my mails and (b) read them back before pressing the Send button!  [cringe!]   Neil From: Neil Jenkins To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 11:58:20 Subject: [peel] Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show?   Hi All,   I'm just wondering if anyone on here records Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show (Friday nights)?  I wanted to here the one from Friday 19 November but missed it before it disappeared off the iPlayer.  Greatful for any help.   Best regards, Neil From philip.gh@... Sun Nov 28 16:13:46 2010 From: philip.gh@... (phil_h22) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:13:46 -0000 Subject: Anyone record Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show? In-Reply-To: <705174.30480.qm@...> Message-ID: Mp3s of the shows are also shared every week on thebox.bz Phil --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Neil Jenkins wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm just wondering if anyone on here records Tom Ravenscroft's 6Music show > (Friday nights)?  I wanted to here the one from Friday 19 November but missed it > before it disappeared off the iPlayer.  Greatful for any help. > > Best regards, > Neil > From tabdrinkink74@... Sun Nov 28 16:52:34 2010 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:52:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: January 2001 show question Message-ID: <979450.27132.qm@...> Hello there, Somebody seems to have started editing the 17th January 2001 show on the wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_January_2001 Does this mean it is available somewhere? Would love to hear that Cowcube session again... Thank you to everyone making this such an incredible group, by the way. The embarrassment of riches over the past few months has been wonderful. Thomas xx From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Nov 28 17:27:23 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:23 -0000 Subject: January 2001 show question In-Reply-To: <979450.27132.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Thomas I regret to say that the track listing in question was taken by one editor from Lorcan's pages and then slightly embellished by Stuart and myself early last year. The show itself does not seem to have materialised....unless somebody would like to put their hand up? Best wishes Steve (TK) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Hello there, > > Somebody seems to have started editing the 17th January 2001 show on the > wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_January_2001 > Does this mean it is available somewhere? > Would love to hear that Cowcube session again... > > Thank you to everyone making this such an incredible group, by the way. The > embarrassment of riches over the past few months has been wonderful. > > Thomas xx > From martinw@... Sun Nov 28 18:28:07 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:28:07 +0000 Subject: [peel] January 2001 show question In-Reply-To: <979450.27132.qm@...> References: <979450.27132.qm@...> Message-ID: At 15:52 28/11/2010, you wrote: > > >Hello there, > >Somebody seems to have started editing the 17th January 2001 show on >the wiki: >http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_January_2001 > >Does this mean it is available somewhere? >Would love to hear that Cowcube session again... > >Thank you to everyone making this such an incredible group, by the >way. The embarrassment of riches over the past few months has been wonderful. > >Thomas xx I think this would be a repeat of Cowcube's first session http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6024968/Cowcube%20-%20Peel%20-%20session%20-%2027-7-00.mp3 martinw From stuartb@... Sun Nov 28 21:19:59 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:19:59 -0000 Subject: January 1993 Mixtape and first of Concert Tapes Message-ID: Near the start of 1993, I changed from TDK-D90 to Maxell XL-IIS tapes. This should be audibly apparent from the 4th track of this mixtape. It contains tracks from mostly unavailable shows, and includes complete sessions by Dinosaur Jr, Drop Nineteens and New FADs in crystal clear FM stereo. Until yesterday I had thought that the Drop Nineteens song with "At The End" in the lyrics was called such, then for the last 24 hours I became convinced it was "Winona" until finally a lyric search confirmed it was "My Aquarium". Anyway both session and record versions are here, to compare and contrast! http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_January_1993 I had decided I would go back and transcribe all of the concert tapes I was on about last week after completing the JP Shows, but then discovered that one of them, the Sonic Youth December 1992 set, was actually broadcast as part of the Peel show on 22nd January 1993. So here it is: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_January_1993 Stuart From tabdrinkink74@... Mon Nov 29 01:02:25 2010 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:02:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] January 2001 show question In-Reply-To: References: <979450.27132.qm@...> Message-ID: <442721.63950.qm@...> Martin! That is amazing, thank you so much! Not heard some of these tunes in ten years, bloody hell that's worrying... Not sure what i can offer you in return, let me know if there is anything. My Cowcube album has deteriorated and is now unrippable, but don't suppose you've downloaded his latest (i.e. recently unearthed) offering? download Thanks again, Thomas xx ________________________________ From: Martin Wheatley To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 29 November, 2010 4:28:07 Subject: Re: [peel] January 2001 show question At 15:52 28/11/2010, you wrote: > > >Hello there, > >Somebody seems to have started editing the 17th January 2001 show on >the wiki: >http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_January_2001 > > >Does this mean it is available somewhere? >Would love to hear that Cowcube session again... > >Thank you to everyone making this such an incredible group, by the >way. The embarrassment of riches over the past few months has been wonderful. > >Thomas xx I think this would be a repeat of Cowcube's first session http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6024968/Cowcube%20-%20Peel%20-%20session%20-%2027-7-00.mp3 martinw From tabdrinkink74@... Mon Nov 29 01:09:04 2010 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:09:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] January 2001 show question In-Reply-To: <442721.63950.qm@...> References: <979450.27132.qm@...> <442721.63950.qm@...> Message-ID: <78592.67160.qm@...> ps. Am i right in thinking that's the Lamacq Live version of 'Midfielding' by Midfield General at the end there? Not heard that in a while either! Brilliant!! ________________________________ From: Thomas Blatchford To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 29 November, 2010 11:02:25 Subject: Re: [peel] January 2001 show question Martin! That is amazing, thank you so much! Not heard some of these tunes in ten years, bloody hell that's worrying... Not sure what i can offer you in return, let me know if there is anything. My Cowcube album has deteriorated and is now unrippable, but don't suppose you've downloaded his latest (i.e. recently unearthed) offering? download Thanks again, Thomas xx ________________________________ From: Martin Wheatley To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 29 November, 2010 4:28:07 Subject: Re: [peel] January 2001 show question At 15:52 28/11/2010, you wrote: > > >Hello there, > >Somebody seems to have started editing the 17th January 2001 show on >the wiki: >http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_January_2001 > > >Does this mean it is available somewhere? >Would love to hear that Cowcube session again... > >Thank you to everyone making this such an incredible group, by the >way. The embarrassment of riches over the past few months has been wonderful. > >Thomas xx I think this would be a repeat of Cowcube's first session http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6024968/Cowcube%20-%20Peel%20-%20session%20-%2027-7-00.mp3 martinw From stuartb@... Mon Nov 29 01:25:59 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:25:59 -0000 Subject: Mixtape Peel Feb 1993 Message-ID: A shorter one this time, just a couple of lonely session tracks, one each from Come and Bailter Space. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_February_1993 Stuart From stuartb@... Mon Nov 29 15:14:34 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:14:34 -0000 Subject: Mixtape - Peel March 1993 Message-ID: Contains complete PJ Harvey and Fall sessions, 2 tracks from Pulp's session, a complete debut play of the Fall 12" EP, and early singles from Suburban Knight, David Gray and more http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_March_1993 From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 30 03:28:03 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:28:03 -0000 Subject: BFBS Festive Fifty! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Yes, you read it right. A real find here, where in response to a request from Hong Kong, John plays part of the 1995 FF chart in one of his BFBS shows: I wonder if this is the only time he did this? > > Date: 30 December 1995 (BFBS), although he says it is the first show of 1996. Maybe he was unaware of when they had scheduled it to go out? > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_December_1995_%28BFBS%29 > > Best wishes > Steve (TK) ...and here are the top 7. Date: 07 January 1996 (BFBS) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_January_1996_%28BFBS%29 All the very best Steve (TK) From stuartb@... Tue Nov 30 16:00:09 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:00:09 -0000 Subject: 1993 Mixtape - Peel Late Spring 1993 Message-ID: Another PJ Harvey heavy (4 tracks) compilation, with another outing for the session version of "Naked Cousin" with its exceptionally close-mic'ed percussion. Otherwise a very eclectic mixtape. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_Spring_1993 Stuart