From robfleay@... Thu Jul 1 12:52:59 2010 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:52:59 +0100 Subject: Song ID request Message-ID: I realise this is the classic obscure reggae song ID request, but I have a song on tape from Peel circa 1990/91 that I wanted to ID (and no it doesn't mention Jah) I'm pretty sure the song is called "Tomatoes & Onions" and I wrote down the artist as "Bra Bonzer" but I can't find anything at all on Google Anyone? From unity.gain@... Fri Jul 2 11:19:12 2010 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:19:12 -0000 Subject: 400 box '85 shows Message-ID: As promised, here are the first of those 1985 shows from the 400 box. I had hoped to speed-correct them first, but just received the news this week that the room where I do my ripping etc. is scheduled to be stripped out for asbestos removal, so I thought I'd best just get on with it! On the spreadsheet they're tapes no. 367-386, and most of the recordings are of relatively reasonable quality, though 373 is pretty badly damaged. There are a few shows with Kershaw standing in for Peel, including one where he plays a repeat of Billy Bragg's first session. This is one of the few shows for which I can definitely say "I know where I was when that one went out" - in a cider orchard in Herefordshire, as it happens, just down the road from where Fred West buried some of the bodies... http://rapidshare.com/files/404440904/367-850527a.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404441046/367-850527b.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404441216/368-850527c.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404441387/368-850527d.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404443131/369-850528a.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404443354/369-850528b.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404443553/370-850529a.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404443667/370-850529b.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404449714/371-850529c.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404449855/371-850529d.mp3.html Must say, I'm liking the new Rapidshare uploader - certainly makes doing this sort of thing a lot easier, Cheers Roger From thebarguest@... Fri Jul 2 19:45:47 2010 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:45:47 -0000 Subject: 400 box '85 shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow - some 400 stuff ! Thanks Rodge ! Just listening to one now - sounds good quality. Thanks also to So-It-Goes for the 1999 shows ... Regrads, Mr Gaskell --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > As promised, here are the first of those 1985 shows from the 400 box. > I had hoped to speed-correct them first, but just received the news this week that the room where I do my ripping etc. is scheduled to be stripped out for asbestos removal, so I thought I'd best just get on with it! > On the spreadsheet they're tapes no. 367-386, and most of the recordings are of relatively reasonable quality, though 373 is pretty badly damaged. > There are a few shows with Kershaw standing in for Peel, including one where he plays a repeat of Billy Bragg's first session. > This is one of the few shows for which I can definitely say "I know where I was when that one went out" - in a cider orchard in Herefordshire, as it happens, just down the road from where Fred West buried some of the bodies... > > http://rapidshare.com/files/404440904/367-850527a.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404441046/367-850527b.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404441216/368-850527c.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404441387/368-850527d.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404443131/369-850528a.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404443354/369-850528b.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404443553/370-850529a.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404443667/370-850529b.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404449714/371-850529c.mp3.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/404449855/371-850529d.mp3.html > > Must say, I'm liking the new Rapidshare uploader - certainly makes doing this sort of thing a lot easier, > Cheers > Roger > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 4 08:08:06 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:08:06 -0000 Subject: BFBS: satsumas, abuse and the parish newsletter Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Show date: 27 November 1997 (ending is missing) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/27_November_1997_%28BFBS%29 >From this point on, uploads will be found on the Mooo Server (see http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server for details). Mediafire is proving difficult to manage, and I hope this will be a more efficient way of dispensing material in the future. Thanks to Roger for the recent 400 Box uploads: the first show is on the Wiki already. I'm glad my appeal (no pun intended) didn't fall on deaf ears. Best wishes Steve [TK] From unity.gain@... Sun Jul 4 17:43:19 2010 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:43:19 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 box '85 shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Some more: http://rapidshare.com/files/404763132/372-850603.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404764848/372-850603b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404766731/374-850603.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404768648/374-850604.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404770472/375-850604a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404772378/375-850604b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404873874/376-850604a_.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/404876114/376-850604b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404883524/377-850611a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404885651/377-850611b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404887522/378-850611a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404890336/378-850611b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404893408/379-850723a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404897418/379-850723b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404901512/380-850724a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/404904531/380-850724b.mp3 More to follow... Cheers Roger From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Jul 5 05:44:44 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 03:44:44 -0000 Subject: O3: a couple of nitwits Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Show date: 07 November 1994 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_November_1994_%28%C3%963%29 Thanks to the taper and uploader, and to Roger for the latest dazzling array of 400 Box shows. Best wishes Steve [TK] From valphnx@... Mon Jul 5 12:08:37 2010 From: valphnx@... (Val Phoenix) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:08:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 400 box shows from Roger Message-ID: <698559.32243.qm@...> Hi, Thanks for the bounty of shows. Sorry to be dim, but how do I know which shows these are? Are they on the Wiki? best wishes, Val From robfleay@... Mon Jul 5 12:16:59 2010 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:16:59 +0100 Subject: [peel] 400 box shows from Roger In-Reply-To: <698559.32243.qm@...> References: <698559.32243.qm@...> Message-ID: I had the same thought - it would be helpful to know which shows (and sessions) they were - I'm a cherry picker I admit! On 5 July 2010 11:08, Val Phoenix wrote: > > > Hi, > Thanks for the bounty of shows. Sorry to be dim, but how do I know which > shows these are? Are they on the Wiki? > > best wishes, > Val > > > > > From stuartb@... Mon Jul 5 12:33:36 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:33:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 box '85 shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Roger! The first batch has helped me date one of my 1985 Best Of shows to the 28th May. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Carruthers Sent: 04 July 2010 16:43 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 400 box '85 shows Some more: http://rapidshare. com/files/404763132/372-850603.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404764848/372-850603b.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404766731/374-850603.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404768648/374-850604.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404770472/375-850604a.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404772378/375-850604b.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404873874/376-850604a_.mp3.html http://rapidshare. com/files/404876114/376-850604b.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404883524/377-850611a.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404885651/377-850611b.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404887522/378-850611a.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404890336/378-850611b.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404893408/379-850723a.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404897418/379-850723b.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404901512/380-850724a.mp3 http://rapidshare. com/files/404904531/380-850724b.mp3 More to follow... Cheers Roger From paul@... Mon Jul 5 13:14:33 2010 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:14:33 +0100 Subject: [peel] 400 box shows from Roger In-Reply-To: References: <698559.32243.qm@...> Message-ID: <0jf336hk080env98078dbpk7jfdm7f0pvh@...> I assume that the date is at the end of the file name. e.g. http://rapidshare.com/files/404763132/372-850603.mp3 3rd June 1985 Paul On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:16:59 +0100, you wrote: >I had the same thought - it would be helpful to know which shows (and >sessions) they were - I'm a cherry picker I admit! > > > >On 5 July 2010 11:08, Val Phoenix wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, >> Thanks for the bounty of shows. Sorry to be dim, but how do I know which >> shows these are? Are they on the Wiki? >> >> best wishes, >> Val >> >> >> >> >> From stuartb@... Mon Jul 5 13:37:06 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:37:06 +0100 Subject: [peel] 400 box shows from Roger In-Reply-To: <0jf336hk080env98078dbpk7jfdm7f0pvh@...> References: <698559.32243.qm@...> <0jf336hk080env98078dbpk7jfdm7f0pvh@...> Message-ID: <322AEEDD224D4C51BE09871992070C38@Stuartnew> And the 372 is the tape number of the Box 400 collection. I tend to prefix all shows I've downloaded with yyyy-mm-dd z (where z is a letter denoting parts of multi-filed shows and xx where a month or day is unknown) so that they can be indexed by date on computers iPods Media Servers etc. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 05 July 2010 12:15 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] 400 box shows from Roger I assume that the date is at the end of the file name. e.g. http://rapidshare.com/files/404763132/372-850603.mp3 3rd June 1985 Paul On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:16:59 +0100, you wrote: >I had the same thought - it would be helpful to know which shows (and >sessions) they were - I'm a cherry picker I admit! > > > >On 5 July 2010 11:08, Val Phoenix > wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, >> Thanks for the bounty of shows. Sorry to be dim, but how do I know which >> shows these are? Are they on the Wiki? >> >> best wishes, >> Val >> >> >> >> >> From unity.gain@... Mon Jul 5 21:57:36 2010 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:57:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] 400 box shows from Roger In-Reply-To: <322AEEDD224D4C51BE09871992070C38@Stuartnew> Message-ID: That would indeed be the case. You can identify the tapes from the spreadsheet at: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Rocker%27s_400_Box_spreadsheet, Cheers Roger On 05/07/2010 12:37, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > And the 372 is the tape number of the Box 400 collection. > > I tend to prefix all shows I¹ve downloaded with yyyy-mm-dd z (where z is a > letter denoting parts of multi-filed shows and xx where a month or day is > unknown) so that they can be indexed by date on computers iPods Media Servers > etc. > > Stuart > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul > Webster > Sent: 05 July 2010 12:15 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 400 box shows from Roger > > > > I assume that the date is at the end of the file name. > e.g. > http://rapidshare.com/files/404763132/372-850603.mp3 > > 3rd June 1985 > > Paul > > On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:16:59 +0100, you wrote: > >> >I had the same thought - it would be helpful to know which shows (and >> >sessions) they were - I'm a cherry picker I admit! >> > >> > >> > >> >On 5 July 2010 11:08, Val Phoenix > > wrote: >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> Thanks for the bounty of shows. Sorry to be dim, but how do I know which >>> >> shows these are? Are they on the Wiki? >>> >> >>> >> best wishes, >>> >> Val >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > > > > > From ken_garner@... Tue Jul 6 00:32:00 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:32:00 -0000 Subject: Bill Aitken's 70s Peel Session memories - in full! Message-ID: Listeners like me who can date their Peel memories to the mid-70s might be interested to learn that legendary BBC SM (and musician) Bill Aitken has now posted in full to the web his memories of the period, which i edited brief clips from for IST and TPS, courtesy of a guest page on the website of his old friends Starry Eyed And Laughing: http://www.starryeyedandlaughing.com/billaitken/billaitken_memoirs00.htm ken From unity.gain@... Tue Jul 6 14:15:05 2010 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:15:05 -0000 Subject: 400 box '85 shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: .....and the rest: http://rapidshare.com/files/405252868/381-050724b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405253096/381-850724a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405253312/382-850724.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405253544/382-850730.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405253770/383-850730.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405253953/383-850730b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405254079/384-850730a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405254243/384-850730b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405254379/385-850812.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405254549/385-850812b.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405254708/386-850812a.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/405254861/386-850812b.mp3 I'm having one last go at that damaged 373 tape, and then hopefully I'll get started on some of the earlier 400 rips that I've yet to share, cheers Roger From unity.gain@... Tue Jul 6 17:30:29 2010 From: unity.gain@... (bty997881) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:30:29 -0000 Subject: 400 box '85 shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 373 seems to have undergone a miraculous 'attic cure'. As I'm sure you all know, this is what we call the phenomenon whereby you put a piece of broken equipment up in the attic, and the next time you look at it, it's in perfect working order. Not that I've actually put it in an attic, but the last time I tried to play this tape, it would grind to a halt every time during the Cookie Crew number, whereas now it plays as if there never was a problem. http://rapidshare.com/files/405320066/373-850603a.mp3.html http://rapidshare.com/files/405320067/373-850603b.mp3.html With any luck, I should be able to post the .flacs to you tomorrow, Rocker, cheers Roger --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > .....and the rest: > http://rapidshare.com/files/405252868/381-050724b.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405253096/381-850724a.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405253312/382-850724.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405253544/382-850730.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405253770/383-850730.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405253953/383-850730b.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405254079/384-850730a.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405254243/384-850730b.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405254379/385-850812.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405254549/385-850812b.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405254708/386-850812a.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/405254861/386-850812b.mp3 > > I'm having one last go at that damaged 373 tape, and then hopefully I'll get started on some of the earlier 400 rips that I've yet to share, > cheers > Roger > From paul4epbev@... Tue Jul 6 20:43:34 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:43:34 -0000 Subject: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? Message-ID: Hi All, Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show cassette tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of my tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. Paul From stuartb@... Tue Jul 6 21:53:50 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:53:50 +0100 Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62D4F6E891334D9EB664F1E898492A74@Stuartnew> Hi Paul Welcome to the group! Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there are plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has pitch control and easily adjustable azimuth. If you are still using your original machine which you used to record your tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without fiddling with anything. If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you need to do to ensure good sound quality. By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot on, or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be able to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for most it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a Google search for further info and pictures. I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally difficult to compensate for digitally. Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can also be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes out there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin phono to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card on a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound card, though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will also be fine. I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows you to choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line In if available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made making sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the clipping zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity software. Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can be edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum of 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is another lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files to a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and update the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the group! Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of isector100 Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? Hi All, Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show cassette tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of my tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. Paul From markc63@... Tue Jul 6 22:34:25 2010 From: markc63@... (mr_maudlin) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:34:25 -0000 Subject: Festive Fifty Show 29/12/95 Message-ID: I have now got the whole of the 29/12/95 show as MP3 files and will post links to them over the next few days. It will be in 5 parts as that makes for manageable file sizes. Here's part 1; from the start of the programme to around 39m35s in (up to the end of the Cub Koda track - see the Wiki). http://www.mediafire.com/?n1n4tdeqtyy regards Mark C From paul4epbev@... Tue Jul 6 23:19:04 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:19:04 -0000 Subject: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: <62D4F6E891334D9EB664F1E898492A74@Stuartnew> Message-ID: Hi Stuart, Thanks, doesn't sound as complicated as I thought! I'm using a laptop rather than a PC, will this affect the quality of the sound card? The laptop is less than 12 months old. (Sorry if this is a stupid question), but what sort of size of file will a c90 tape produce? I've got quite a lot of tapes (over 700 I think) and I wondered how much space might be needed. Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Hi Paul > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. > > > > I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there are > plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has pitch > control and easily adjustable azimuth. > > If you are still using your original machine which you used to record your > tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without > fiddling with anything. > > If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you > need to do to ensure good sound quality. > > By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot on, > or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be able > to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for most > it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to > adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a Google > search for further info and pictures. > > > > I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a > mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally difficult > to compensate for digitally. > > Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can also > be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes out > there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! > > > > Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin phono > to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card on > a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound card, > though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will also > be fine. > > I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows you to > choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line In if > available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other > Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made making > sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the clipping > zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). > > > > Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity software. > > > > Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can be > edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to > download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum of > 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is another > lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. > > > > Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files to > a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and update > the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. > > > > I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but > just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the > group! > > > > Stuart > > > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > isector100 > Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show cassette > tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. > > > > I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone > point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of my > tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I > would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. > > > > Paul > From stuartb@... Tue Jul 6 23:31:09 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:31:09 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: References: <62D4F6E891334D9EB664F1E898492A74@Stuartnew> Message-ID: <423CABD9B5914AAC8105FB66B782EF8D@Stuartnew> Paul Well the Audacity files would take up over 1GB but a 192kpbs Joint Stereo mp3 would be nearer 130Mb for a C90. You could just delete the Audacity files once you've mp3'ed each tape. So even with 700 tapes that would easily fit onto a laptop (around 100 Gb). A 1Tb external HDD isn't that expensive and could accommodate the lot. Out of interest, are these tapes complete shows? And what years do they cover? Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of isector100 Sent: 06 July 2010 22:19 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? Hi Stuart, Thanks, doesn't sound as complicated as I thought! I'm using a laptop rather than a PC, will this affect the quality of the sound card? The laptop is less than 12 months old. (Sorry if this is a stupid question), but what sort of size of file will a c90 tape produce? I've got quite a lot of tapes (over 700 I think) and I wondered how much space might be needed. Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" wrote: > > Hi Paul > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. > > > > I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there are > plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has pitch > control and easily adjustable azimuth. > > If you are still using your original machine which you used to record your > tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without > fiddling with anything. > > If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you > need to do to ensure good sound quality. > > By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot on, > or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be able > to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for most > it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to > adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a Google > search for further info and pictures. > > > > I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a > mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally difficult > to compensate for digitally. > > Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can also > be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes out > there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! > > > > Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin phono > to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card on > a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound card, > though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will also > be fine. > > I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows you to > choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line In if > available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other > Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made making > sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the clipping > zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). > > > > Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity software. > > > > Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can be > edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to > download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum of > 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is another > lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. > > > > Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files to > a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and update > the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. > > > > I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but > just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the > group! > > > > Stuart > > > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of > isector100 > Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show cassette > tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. > > > > I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone > point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of my > tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I > would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. > > > > Paul > From festive50@... Tue Jul 6 23:31:38 2010 From: festive50@... (Philip Edwards) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:31:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: References: <62D4F6E891334D9EB664F1E898492A74@Stuartnew> Message-ID: 700 Blimey. There was me thinking I had a lot (500+). What era are we talking about here? Phil On 6 July 2010 22:19, isector100 wrote: > > > > > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks, doesn't sound as complicated as I thought! > > I'm using a laptop rather than a PC, will this affect the quality of the > sound card? The laptop is less than 12 months old. > > (Sorry if this is a stupid question), but what sort of size of file will a > c90 tape produce? I've got quite a lot of tapes (over 700 I think) and I > wondered how much space might be needed. > > Paul > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" > wrote: > > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > > > Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. > > > > > > > > I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there > are > > plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has > pitch > > control and easily adjustable azimuth. > > > > If you are still using your original machine which you used to record > your > > tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without > > fiddling with anything. > > > > If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you > > need to do to ensure good sound quality. > > > > By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot > on, > > or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be > able > > to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for > most > > it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to > > adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a > Google > > search for further info and pictures. > > > > > > > > I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a > > mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally > difficult > > to compensate for digitally. > > > > Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can > also > > be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes out > > there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! > > > > > > > > Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin > phono > > to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card > on > > a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound card, > > though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will > also > > be fine. > > > > I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows you > to > > choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line In > if > > available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other > > Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made > making > > sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the clipping > > zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). > > > > > > > > Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity > software. > > > > > > > > Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can > be > > edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to > > download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum > of > > 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is another > > lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. > > > > > > > > Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files > to > > a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and update > > the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. > > > > > > > > I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but > > just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the > > group! > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > peel@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of > > isector100 > > Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show > cassette > > tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. > > > > > > > > I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone > > point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of > my > > tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I > > would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > From paul4epbev@... Wed Jul 7 00:19:52 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:19:52 -0000 Subject: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: <423CABD9B5914AAC8105FB66B782EF8D@Stuartnew> Message-ID: Stuart Thanks. The external drive might be the better bet in the end. Probably best to get started first and then worry space once I've got something worth keeping. I've a few tapes from 1991 but I really started taping in 1992 and then carried on through to 2004. The number of individual tapes for any one year can vary quite a lot. I really don't know how many full shows in total. I've just been listening to some tapes from the start of 1993 and I've got complete shows for the 14th, 15th, 28th and 29th of May, but only partial shows for the 7th, 22nd for example. All the tapes include John's links etc. I suspect that there's a lot of shows where I've just got 90 minutes worth and a number with just 45. Completing Ken Garner's recent survey made me realize that I should probably start to think about transferring these tapes onto something more permanent. Although it's not going to be a trivial job! Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Paul > > > > Well the Audacity files would take up over 1GB but a 192kpbs Joint Stereo > mp3 would be nearer 130Mb for a C90. You could just delete the Audacity > files once you've mp3'ed each tape. So even with 700 tapes that would easily > fit onto a laptop (around 100 Gb). > > > > A 1Tb external HDD isn't that expensive and could accommodate the lot. > > > > Out of interest, are these tapes complete shows? And what years do they > cover? > > > > Stuart > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > isector100 > Sent: 06 July 2010 22:19 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks, doesn't sound as complicated as I thought! > > I'm using a laptop rather than a PC, will this affect the quality of the > sound card? The laptop is less than 12 months old. > > (Sorry if this is a stupid question), but what sort of size of file will a > c90 tape produce? I've got quite a lot of tapes (over 700 I think) and I > wondered how much space might be needed. > > Paul > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" > wrote: > > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > > > Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. > > > > > > > > I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there are > > plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has > pitch > > control and easily adjustable azimuth. > > > > If you are still using your original machine which you used to record your > > tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without > > fiddling with anything. > > > > If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you > > need to do to ensure good sound quality. > > > > By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot on, > > or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be able > > to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for > most > > it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to > > adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a > Google > > search for further info and pictures. > > > > > > > > I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a > > mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally difficult > > to compensate for digitally. > > > > Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can > also > > be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes out > > there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! > > > > > > > > Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin phono > > to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card > on > > a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound card, > > though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will > also > > be fine. > > > > I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows you > to > > choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line In > if > > available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other > > Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made making > > sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the clipping > > zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). > > > > > > > > Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity > software. > > > > > > > > Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can > be > > edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to > > download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum of > > 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is another > > lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. > > > > > > > > Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files > to > > a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and update > > the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. > > > > > > > > I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but > > just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the > > group! > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of > > isector100 > > Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show > cassette > > tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. > > > > > > > > I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone > > point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of > my > > tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I > > would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 7 02:39:11 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:39:11 -0000 Subject: Festive Fifty Show 29/12/95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you so much for this, Mark, I can't wait to hear the rest! Cataloguing on the Wiki as I write. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "mr_maudlin" wrote: > > I have now got the whole of the 29/12/95 show as MP3 files and will post links to them over the next few days. It will be in 5 parts as that makes for manageable file sizes. Here's part 1; from the start of the programme to around 39m35s in (up to the end of the Cub Koda track - see the Wiki). > > http://www.mediafire.com/?n1n4tdeqtyy > > regards > > Mark C > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 7 15:07:42 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:07:42 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: References: <423CABD9B5914AAC8105FB66B782EF8D@Stuartnew> Message-ID: <3A0885F1AFD14CCA9EB7E5660DBCE7C7@Stuartnew> Paul You could initially concentrate on the shows which have not already been shared and then on the ones which have been shared, but where you consider that your copy is more complete or has better sound. I see that your 1993 shows that you have mentioned have not been shared previously, while for some later years, especially 2002-2004, most of the shows have already been shared in high quality, and you might be as well downloading these than ripping them. The 500 Box still has to be completed, there is a spreadsheet around somewhere listing those which are intended to be shared. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of isector100 Sent: 06 July 2010 23:20 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? Stuart Thanks. The external drive might be the better bet in the end. Probably best to get started first and then worry space once I've got something worth keeping. I've a few tapes from 1991 but I really started taping in 1992 and then carried on through to 2004. The number of individual tapes for any one year can vary quite a lot. I really don't know how many full shows in total. I've just been listening to some tapes from the start of 1993 and I've got complete shows for the 14th, 15th, 28th and 29th of May, but only partial shows for the 7th, 22nd for example. All the tapes include John's links etc. I suspect that there's a lot of shows where I've just got 90 minutes worth and a number with just 45. Completing Ken Garner's recent survey made me realize that I should probably start to think about transferring these tapes onto something more permanent. Although it's not going to be a trivial job! Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" wrote: > > Paul > > > > Well the Audacity files would take up over 1GB but a 192kpbs Joint Stereo > mp3 would be nearer 130Mb for a C90. You could just delete the Audacity > files once you've mp3'ed each tape. So even with 700 tapes that would easily > fit onto a laptop (around 100 Gb). > > > > A 1Tb external HDD isn't that expensive and could accommodate the lot. > > > > Out of interest, are these tapes complete shows? And what years do they > cover? > > > > Stuart > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of > isector100 > Sent: 06 July 2010 22:19 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks, doesn't sound as complicated as I thought! > > I'm using a laptop rather than a PC, will this affect the quality of the > sound card? The laptop is less than 12 months old. > > (Sorry if this is a stupid question), but what sort of size of file will a > c90 tape produce? I've got quite a lot of tapes (over 700 I think) and I > wondered how much space might be needed. > > Paul > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" > wrote: > > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > > > Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. > > > > > > > > I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there are > > plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has > pitch > > control and easily adjustable azimuth. > > > > If you are still using your original machine which you used to record your > > tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without > > fiddling with anything. > > > > If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you > > need to do to ensure good sound quality. > > > > By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot on, > > or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be able > > to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for > most > > it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to > > adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a > Google > > search for further info and pictures. > > > > > > > > I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a > > mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally difficult > > to compensate for digitally. > > > > Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can > also > > be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes out > > there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! > > > > > > > > Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin phono > > to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card > on > > a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound card, > > though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will > also > > be fine. > > > > I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows you > to > > choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line In > if > > available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other > > Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made making > > sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the clipping > > zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). > > > > > > > > Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity > software. > > > > > > > > Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can > be > > edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to > > download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum of > > 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is another > > lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. > > > > > > > > Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files > to > > a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and update > > the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. > > > > > > > > I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but > > just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the > > group! > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of > > isector100 > > Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show > cassette > > tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. > > > > > > > > I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone > > point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of > my > > tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I > > would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > From davidquantick@... Wed Jul 7 15:24:12 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: <3A0885F1AFD14CCA9EB7E5660DBCE7C7@Stuartnew> Message-ID: <145662.96591.qm@...> I wish this thread was called Ripping Yarns. From markc63@... Wed Jul 7 21:33:38 2010 From: markc63@... (mr_maudlin) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:33:38 -0000 Subject: Festive Fifty Show 29/12/95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here are the next two instalments. Part 2 (33m43s) starts with the back announcement of the Cub Koda track and finishes with a fade out of Dave Clark's Thunder. Part 3 (38m55s) starts with a fade up of the track preceding Dave Clark and ends with a fade out of the beginning of Van Basten. Mark C http://www.mediafire.com/file/dtvmeyx2jhm/John Peel Show 29Dec95 part2.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjmymjzhmt0/John Peel Show 29Dec95 part3.mp3 --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Thank you so much for this, Mark, I can't wait to hear the rest! Cataloguing on the Wiki as I write. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "mr_maudlin" wrote: > > > > I have now got the whole of the 29/12/95 show as MP3 files and will post links to them over the next few days. It will be in 5 parts as that makes for manageable file sizes. Here's part 1; from the start of the programme to around 39m35s in (up to the end of the Cub Koda track - see the Wiki). > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?n1n4tdeqtyy > > > > regards > > > > Mark C > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jul 8 04:17:42 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 02:17:42 -0000 Subject: BFBS: new millenium, new stylus Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Carsten from Germany (commiserations to him, by the way) has done it again, and there's a lot more where this came from. Show date: 27 December 1999 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/27_December_1999_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve [TK] From paul4epbev@... Thu Jul 8 19:03:42 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:03:42 -0000 Subject: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? In-Reply-To: <3A0885F1AFD14CCA9EB7E5660DBCE7C7@Stuartnew> Message-ID: Thanks Stuart, That seems a good approach. Hoping to get things started over the weekend. I'll let you know how things go. Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Paul > > > > You could initially concentrate on the shows which have not already been > shared and then on the ones which have been shared, but where you consider > that your copy is more complete or has better sound. > > > > I see that your 1993 shows that you have mentioned have not been shared > previously, while for some later years, especially 2002-2004, most of the > shows have already been shared in high quality, and you might be as well > downloading these than ripping them. > > > > The 500 Box still has to be completed, there is a spreadsheet around > somewhere listing those which are intended to be shared. > > > > Stuart > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > isector100 > Sent: 06 July 2010 23:20 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > Stuart > > Thanks. The external drive might be the better bet in the end. Probably best > to get started first and then worry space once I've got something worth > keeping. > > I've a few tapes from 1991 but I really started taping in 1992 and then > carried on through to 2004. The number of individual tapes for any one year > can vary quite a lot. > > I really don't know how many full shows in total. I've just been listening > to some tapes from the start of 1993 and I've got complete shows for the > 14th, 15th, 28th and 29th of May, but only partial shows for the 7th, 22nd > for example. All the tapes include John's links etc. > > I suspect that there's a lot of shows where I've just got 90 minutes worth > and a number with just 45. > > Completing Ken Garner's recent survey made me realize that I should probably > start to think about transferring these tapes onto something more permanent. > Although it's not going to be a trivial job! > > Paul > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Stuart" > wrote: > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Well the Audacity files would take up over 1GB but a 192kpbs Joint Stereo > > mp3 would be nearer 130Mb for a C90. You could just delete the Audacity > > files once you've mp3'ed each tape. So even with 700 tapes that would > easily > > fit onto a laptop (around 100 Gb). > > > > > > > > A 1Tb external HDD isn't that expensive and could accommodate the lot. > > > > > > > > Out of interest, are these tapes complete shows? And what years do they > > cover? > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of > > isector100 > > Sent: 06 July 2010 22:19 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] Re: New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stuart, > > > > Thanks, doesn't sound as complicated as I thought! > > > > I'm using a laptop rather than a PC, will this affect the quality of the > > sound card? The laptop is less than 12 months old. > > > > (Sorry if this is a stupid question), but what sort of size of file will a > > c90 tape produce? I've got quite a lot of tapes (over 700 I think) and I > > wondered how much space might be needed. > > > > Paul > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com > , "Stuart" > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > > > > > > > Starting with the source end of the conversion chain.. > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume you still have a decent Cassette Recorder! If not, then there > are > > > plenty available on eBay, I got a great condition Nakamichi which has > > pitch > > > control and easily adjustable azimuth. > > > > > > If you are still using your original machine which you used to record > your > > > tapes then there is every likelihood that they will play back OK without > > > fiddling with anything. > > > > > > If playing back on a different machine then there are certain things you > > > need to do to ensure good sound quality. > > > > > > By far the most important is to make sure the playback azimuth is spot > on, > > > or the sound will be shushy and mufffly. For this you will need to be > able > > > to access the azimuth control. Some decks have an azimuth knob but for > > most > > > it involves removing the cassette door and using a small screwdriver to > > > adjust the head angle until the treble content sounds clearest. Do a > > Google > > > search for further info and pictures. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tend to keep Dolby off on playback, there is nothing worse than a > > > mistracking Dolby. This is very important as it is exceptionally > difficult > > > to compensate for digitally. > > > > > > Pitch control is useful on a deck though rare, though at least this can > > also > > > be altered in software afterwards. There are quite a few shared tapes > out > > > there where JP's voice is audibly fast or slow! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the most important bit is sorted, you will then need a twin > phono > > > to 3.5mm stereo jack to connect the cassette recorder to your sound card > > on > > > a PC or Mac. Best results will be gained if you have a proper sound > card, > > > though for cassette recordings then most onboard motherboard sound will > > also > > > be fine. > > > > > > I use Audacity software (the latest beta) to record with. This allows > you > > to > > > choose which audio channels on your PC will be recorded, you want Line > In > > if > > > available, or What You Hear making sure that any microphones and other > > > Windows sound schemes are disabled. A test recording should be made > making > > > sure that the sound level meters on Audacity don't rise into the > clipping > > > zone (0dB on the bar meters or +/-1 on the trace). > > > > > > > > > > > > Then just press play on the tape player and record on the Audacity > > software. > > > > > > > > > > > > Audacity will record in its own lossless format and these recordings can > > be > > > edited, cut and pasted etc. You can also export to mp3 (you will need to > > > download the mp3 dll separately to enable this) and I suggest a minimum > of > > > 192kbps recording quality. It will also encode into flac which is > another > > > lossless format, though iPods will not be able to play these files back. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, should you wish to share the results then you can upload the files > > to > > > a site such as Mediafire, let us know through the Mailing List and > update > > > the pages on the Wiki if you can date the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I've not gone into any great detail in any of the above steps but > > > just do a Google Search for anything you're stuck on or get back to the > > > group! > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com > ] On Behalf Of > > > isector100 > > > Sent: 06 July 2010 19:44 > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [peel] New Member - Not The First Time This Has Been Asked? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Just joined the group. I've started to listen again to my J P Show > > cassette > > > tapes and found you via the John Peel Wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure this is not the first time this has been asked, but can someone > > > point me in the direction of help / guidance on making digital copies of > > my > > > tapes. I'm aware that cassette tape recordings don't last forever and I > > > would like to be able to help preserve what I've got if possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > From john.bravin@... Thu Jul 8 20:26:37 2010 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:26:37 +0200 Subject: [peel] Bill Aitken's 70s Peel Session memories - in full! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C36185D.50509@...> Thanks for the link, some fascinating stuff from behind the scenes. And I'm puzzled how I completely missed Starry Eyed and Laughing despite the endless touring and the Peel session. What a chequered gig list - playing venues like Doncaster Tech Outlook Club in the UK then playing with The Flying Burrito Brothers in New York. John On 06/07/2010 00:32, ken_garner wrote: > > Listeners like me who can date their Peel memories to the mid-70s > might be interested to learn that legendary BBC SM (and musician) Bill > Aitken has now posted in full to the web his memories of the period, > which i edited brief clips from for IST and TPS, courtesy of a guest > page on the website of his old friends Starry Eyed And Laughing: > > http://www.starryeyedandlaughing.com/billaitken/billaitken_memoirs00.htm > > ken > > From markc63@... Thu Jul 8 21:29:39 2010 From: markc63@... (mr_maudlin) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:29:39 -0000 Subject: Festive Fifty Show 29/12/95 Message-ID: err... this time with the links... http://www.mediafire.com/file/dedezddtamm/John Peel Show 29Dec95 part4.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/file/bnxmvmlgjjm/John Peel Show 29Dec95 part5.mp3 Mark C From markc63@... Thu Jul 8 21:27:57 2010 From: markc63@... (mr_maudlin) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:27:57 -0000 Subject: Festive Fifty Show 29/12/95 Message-ID: Final instalments; parts 4 and 5. I think I may missed a few seconds of Pulp's Underwear at the beginning of part 5 (possibly due to a 1995 cup of tea made during the news break and didn't get back into the living room quick enough) What happens about the lossless versions of the files posted? I have AIFF files (Apple lossless audio) of the MP3's posted. Mark C From stuartb@... Fri Jul 9 00:35:11 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:35:11 -0000 Subject: Peel February 1985 - new mixtape Message-ID: Keeping the 1985 theme going, here is my collection of recordings from JP shows in February of that year. It is in good quality FM mono and contains archive sessions from the Blue Orchids and The Fall, and two-thirds of the first play of the Jesus And Mary Chain's second session, as well as my usual mixture of obvious recordings and complete rarities such as Onyeka's Trina Four. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_February_1985 From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Jul 10 04:36:19 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:36:19 -0000 Subject: 1998: THAT show Message-ID: Fellow Peelites John recorded the odd Radio 1 prog for several years at Peel Acres, but this is the very first live broadcast. Show date: 03 December 1998 Session: Cinerama #1 (rpt) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/03_December_1998 Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 11 07:40:42 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 05:40:42 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) Message-ID: Fellow Peelites I turn 47 today, but before I celebrate, there's always time for a bit more JP. Show date: 27 November 1998 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1998_%28BFBS%29 Thanks once again to Carsten from Germany, and well done at third place. Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 11 07:42:05 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 05:42:05 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No, I haven't started already...that should be 29 November 1998. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > I turn 47 today, but before I celebrate, there's always time for a bit more JP. > > Show date: 27 November 1998 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > Thanks once again to Carsten from Germany, and well done at third place. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From darrenblck@... Sun Jul 11 08:31:23 2010 From: darrenblck@... (darrenblck) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 06:31:23 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Happy Birthday, Steve and thanks for all the recent sharing. Darren --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > No, I haven't started already...that should be 29 November 1998. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > I turn 47 today, but before I celebrate, there's always time for a bit more JP. > > > > Show date: 27 November 1998 > > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > > > Thanks once again to Carsten from Germany, and well done at third place. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [TK] > > > From tabdrinkink74@... Sun Jul 11 12:04:56 2010 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:04:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <815458.84096.qm@...> Happy birthday Steve, and thanks again for another year of ace shared Peel shows. ________________________________ From: So It Goes 2512 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 11 July, 2010 15:40:42 Subject: [peel] BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) Fellow Peelites I turn 47 today, but before I celebrate, there's always time for a bit more JP. Show date: 27 November 1998 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1998_%28BFBS%29 Thanks once again to Carsten from Germany, and well done at third place. Best wishes Steve [TK] From ford.alan@... Sun Jul 11 15:29:40 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:29:40 +0100 Subject: [peel] Peel February 1985 - new mixtape In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Been trying to download this all weekend, but keep getting "no servers currently available". Anyone else had any success? Alan On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Stuart wrote: > > > Keeping the 1985 theme going, here is my collection of recordings from JP > shows in February of that year. > > It is in good quality FM mono and contains archive sessions from the Blue > Orchids and The Fall, and two-thirds of the first play of the Jesus And Mary > Chain's second session, as well as my usual mixture of obvious recordings > and complete rarities such as Onyeka's Trina Four. > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_February_1985 > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Sun Jul 11 15:45:43 2010 From: AndrewThezmore@... (Andrew) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:45:43 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Happy Birthday Steve - hope you have a cracker! Cheers Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > I turn 47 today, but before I celebrate, there's always time for a bit more JP. > > Show date: 27 November 1998 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > Thanks once again to Carsten from Germany, and well done at third place. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From stuartb@... Sun Jul 11 19:39:44 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:39:44 -0000 Subject: Peel February 1985 - new mixtape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Must be doing maintenance on one of the servers at Mediafire, my older files are OK. Anyway for the impatient I've also added it to Megaupload, see the wiki for the link. Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > Been trying to download this all weekend, but keep getting "no servers > currently available". > Anyone else had any success? > Alan > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > Keeping the 1985 theme going, here is my collection of recordings from JP > > shows in February of that year. > > > > It is in good quality FM mono and contains archive sessions from the Blue > > Orchids and The Fall, and two-thirds of the first play of the Jesus And Mary > > Chain's second session, as well as my usual mixture of obvious recordings > > and complete rarities such as Onyeka's Trina Four. > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_February_1985 > > > > > > > From M.Luetchford@... Sun Jul 11 20:25:11 2010 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:25:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <485244.53430.qm@...> happy birthday - its a good age! Mark ________________________________ From: So It Goes 2512 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 11 July, 2010 6:40:42 Subject: [peel] BFBS: Going Going Gong (copyright The Sun)   Fellow Peelites I turn 47 today, but before I celebrate, there's always time for a bit more JP. Show date: 27 November 1998 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1998_%28BFBS%29 Thanks once again to Carsten from Germany, and well done at third place. Best wishes Steve [TK] From dutch_record_59@... Mon Jul 12 10:48:09 2010 From: dutch_record_59@... (Gert Stuut) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Some interesting Peel links Message-ID: <502677.39292.qm@...> The Virgin store tapes re-upped: http://nothing-b-t-d.blogspot.com/2010/07/john-peel.html Traffic in Concert 1970 including John Peel's comments: http://soundaboard.blogspot.com/search?q=traffic+bbc Cheers, Gert From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Mon Jul 12 15:07:06 2010 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (stephen phythian) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:07:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Some interesting Peel links In-Reply-To: <502677.39292.qm@...> Message-ID: <384701.72463.qm@...> Thanks for these, the virgin tapes look amazing! Stephen --- On Mon, 12/7/10, Gert Stuut wrote: From: Gert Stuut Subject: [peel] Some interesting Peel links To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 12 July, 2010, 9:48   The Virgin store tapes re-upped: http://nothing- b-t-d.blogspot. com/2010/ 07/john-peel. html Traffic in Concert 1970 including John Peel's comments: http://soundaboard. blogspot. com/search? q=traffic+ bbc Cheers, Gert From chris_busker@... Tue Jul 13 10:09:36 2010 From: chris_busker@... (chris bussicott) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: THAT show Message-ID: <192707.48071.qm@...> Hello all I wanted to hear the first live from Peel Acres show - do I need a password for the moo server? C From grafpoo@... Tue Jul 13 13:32:22 2010 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:32:22 -0400 Subject: [peel] THAT show In-Reply-To: <192707.48071.qm@...> References: <192707.48071.qm@...> Message-ID: i don't have the message at hand, but i think the wiki page for the mooo server gives you the username and password you need. i too missed it the first time On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:09 AM, chris bussicott wrote: > > > Hello all > I wanted to hear the first live from Peel Acres show - do I need a password > for the moo server? > C > > > -- Listen to this balloon From dbarrell@... Tue Jul 13 13:57:58 2010 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:57:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] THAT show In-Reply-To: References: <192707.48071.qm@...> Message-ID: <4C3C54C6.1020904@...> john guthrie wrote: > > > i don't have the message at hand, but i think the wiki page for the > mooo server gives you the username and password you need. i too missed > it the first time > Yes, you want to use peel/group Cheers Dan From robfleay@... Tue Jul 13 14:05:49 2010 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:05:49 +0100 Subject: [peel] THAT show In-Reply-To: References: <192707.48071.qm@...> Message-ID: I seem to remember that the username/password was actually stated on the pop-up prompt that you get to login? On 13 July 2010 12:32, john guthrie wrote: > > > i don't have the message at hand, but i think the wiki page for the mooo > server gives you the username and password you need. i too missed it the > first time > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:09 AM, chris bussicott > wrote: > >> >> >> Hello all >> I wanted to hear the first live from Peel Acres show - do I need a >> password for the moo server? >> C >> >> > > > -- > Listen to this balloon > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Jul 13 17:27:47 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:27:47 -0000 Subject: THAT show In-Reply-To: <192707.48071.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Chris Well, I did my best: I created a page (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Mooo_Server) specifically to help with this, and even featured it on the monthly choices on the main page. Moreover, the file you want has a direct link which will take you straight there if you click it (bottom of the page), although given the wealth of material on there, new users will probably prefer to browse at their leisure. If you are still in the dark, feel free to email me off list or leave a message on the Wiki, or better still get hold of Brbr, who assures me he will be only too pleased to help. BTW, many thanks to those of you who wished me happy birthday, both on and off list: it really made my day. And...I apologise unreservedly to Carsten. The BFBS show I put up as incomplete (27 November 1997) was actually the whole thing...Dropbox let me down for the first time. So I have deleted the old file from the Mooo and the version on there now includes the last quarter of an hour. If you have already downloaded this one, I suggest you delete and redownload. Take care out there Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, chris bussicott wrote: > > Hello all > I wanted to hear the first live from Peel Acres show - do I need a password for > the moo server? > C > From chris_busker@... Tue Jul 13 18:39:26 2010 From: chris_busker@... (chris bussicott) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: THAT show Message-ID: <82662.17222.qm@...> Thanks guys! It's obvious now you've explained... Chris From dr_mango2004@... Wed Jul 14 01:09:20 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:09:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <536116.24658.qm@...> Hi all. After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 Wiki page http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. Dr Mango From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 14 02:55:55 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:55:55 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: <536116.24658.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Doc Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. Best wishes Steve [TK} --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Hi all. > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > Wiki page > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > Dr Mango > From thebarguest@... Wed Jul 14 11:06:27 2010 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:06:27 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Doc > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK} > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > Hi all. > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > Wiki page > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > Dr Mango > > > From saipanda@... Wed Jul 14 20:59:38 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:59:38 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks from me too, Doc! Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > --- In peel@...m, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > Hi Doc > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [TK} > > > > --- In peel@...m, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > Wiki page > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > From davidquantick@... Wed Jul 14 21:09:31 2010 From: davidquantick@... (Davidquantick) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:09:31 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > Steve W > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > From thebarguest@... Thu Jul 15 17:47:13 2010 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:47:13 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... Regrads, Malcolm Mugge --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > Steve W > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jul 15 18:35:13 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:35:13 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Humphrey Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > Regrads, > Malcolm Mugge > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From saipanda@... Thu Jul 15 18:45:16 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:45:16 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve, "An awful lot" sounds brilliant to me! Many thanks to Carsten! Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Humphrey > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > Regrads, > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From ford.alan@... Thu Jul 15 20:38:24 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:38:24 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel February 1985 - new mixtape In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Stuart, When I re-tried I couldn't get on to the Wiki either! Just tried again now - all ok. Thanks to all involved Impatiently yours Alan On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Stuart wrote: > > > Must be doing maintenance on one of the servers at Mediafire, my older > files are OK. > > Anyway for the impatient I've also added it to Megaupload, see the wiki for > the link. > > Stuart > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford > wrote: > > > > Been trying to download this all weekend, but keep getting "no servers > > currently available". > > Anyone else had any success? > > Alan > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping the 1985 theme going, here is my collection of recordings from > JP > > > shows in February of that year. > > > > > > It is in good quality FM mono and contains archive sessions from the > Blue > > > Orchids and The Fall, and two-thirds of the first play of the Jesus And > Mary > > > Chain's second session, as well as my usual mixture of obvious > recordings > > > and complete rarities such as Onyeka's Trina Four. > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_February_1985 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From thebarguest@... Thu Jul 15 20:44:29 2010 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:44:29 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mate. In Audacity, use the 'equalisation' function. I started to raise the line (from zero) at 1kHz. At 3kHz the line was about 75% up, towards the top ; from there I took the line right up to the max (24) at the extreme right. The result is to really crank up the treble - this may not be to everyone's taste but I think it makes it sound more FM-like, an improvement. Download the remaster below ... Thanks again to Doc Mango for the original ! http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XEVH8514 --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Humphrey > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > Regrads, > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From viynljohn@... Thu Jul 15 21:09:51 2010 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:09:51 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Doc Mango Just tried to access the file on megaupload but its unavailable at the moment, any idea why? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Mate. > In Audacity, use the 'equalisation' function. I started to raise the line (from zero) at 1kHz. At 3kHz the line was about 75% up, towards the top ; from there I took the line right up to the max (24) at the extreme right. The result is to really crank up the treble - this may not be to everyone's taste but I think it makes it sound more FM-like, an improvement. Download the remaster below ... > Thanks again to Doc Mango for the original ! > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XEVH8514 > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > Hi Humphrey > > > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > > > Regrads, > > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From thebarguest@... Thu Jul 15 21:46:00 2010 From: thebarguest@... (Humphrey) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:46:00 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You need to keep on trying - it's like fishing ... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "viynljohn" wrote: > > Doc Mango > > Just tried to access the file on megaupload but its unavailable at the moment, any idea why? > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mate. > > In Audacity, use the 'equalisation' function. I started to raise the line (from zero) at 1kHz. At 3kHz the line was about 75% up, towards the top ; from there I took the line right up to the max (24) at the extreme right. The result is to really crank up the treble - this may not be to everyone's taste but I think it makes it sound more FM-like, an improvement. Download the remaster below ... > > Thanks again to Doc Mango for the original ! > > > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XEVH8514 > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Humphrey > > > > > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > > > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > > > > > Regrads, > > > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From aandwlj@... Fri Jul 16 00:07:43 2010 From: aandwlj@... (Alan Payne) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:07:43 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Agreeded they have all sounded great Alanp To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: saipanda@... Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:45:16 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 Hi Steve, "An awful lot" sounds brilliant to me! Many thanks to Carsten! Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Humphrey > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > Regrads, > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now From stuartb@... Fri Jul 16 01:37:08 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:37:08 -0000 Subject: New Mixtape Peel Summer 1985 and erasure disaster Message-ID: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Summer_1985 Most of these recordings are from June 1985, consisting mainly of session tracks. It appears that I recorded over a Fall session and a Horsemove track from a June show .... with a stereo version of the Fall session from one of the session repeats! The Horsemove track is preserved (albeit in AM 400 Box format) Incidentally I have March and April 1985 compilations ready to roll just as soon as I put on some final tracks but I have to report ..... I had decided that the last few tracks of one of my tapes belonged to the April so I stopped ripping March at that point. Then when it came time to rip April, I found the tape was at the end. OK, so I rewound and found that the last few tracks had disappeared!! Yes, I must have bumped the record and play buttons at the same time with my knee (the deck is just sitting on the PC tower) and erased a Fuzztones track, parts of two JMC session tracks and the Dawn Chorus and the Blue Tits rendition of Teenage Kicks. The JMC stuff is OK, it has been released on CD but the version of Teenage Kicks was very clean sounding and better than the one on the torrent. Doh! At least I have learned my lesson and nothing truly irreplaceable was lost but I was very angry with myself.... Stuart From dr_mango2004@... Fri Jul 16 02:17:52 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:17:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <892367.20827.qm@...> Hmm, interesting. When I ripped this I played around with the top end myself. Personally I like a bit of hiss, especially if it makes the recording sound a bit crisper. But I decided to present the recording pretty much as it is. I might tweak the next one though, if people prefer a more trebly listen. I'm away this weekend, so it will probably be midweek when the next one is ready. DM --- On Thu, 15/7/10, Humphrey wrote: From: Humphrey Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 19:44   Hi Mate. In Audacity, use the 'equalisation' function. I started to raise the line (from zero) at 1kHz. At 3kHz the line was about 75% up, towards the top ; from there I took the line right up to the max (24) at the extreme right. The result is to really crank up the treble - this may not be to everyone's taste but I think it makes it sound more FM-like, an improvement. Download the remaster below ... Thanks again to Doc Mango for the original ! http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XEVH8514 --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Humphrey > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > Regrads, > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Fri Jul 16 02:52:14 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:52:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: <892367.20827.qm@...> References: <892367.20827.qm@...> Message-ID: Trouble is, you can never quite replicate the FM sound by tweaking an AM recording, as there is a sharp drop off above 5kHz and virtually no signal above 8kHz. I find the tone equalisation after the fact can help subjectively up to a point, as it can compensate for the start of the frequency roll-off, and for those of us with "middle aged" hearing it may well be FM like. But as FM actually has a frequency response up to 15kHZ there is clearly an awful lot of information which is irretrievably lost. The same applies to poorly adjusted playback azimuth and inaccurate Dolby tracking! Better to get these sorted out first before resorting to EQ. I don't believe the hiss will make the sound crisper, hiss is after all just noise, not signal. Just my opinion of course.. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr Mango Sent: 16 July 2010 01:18 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 Hmm, interesting. When I ripped this I played around with the top end myself. Personally I like a bit of hiss, especially if it makes the recording sound a bit crisper. But I decided to present the recording pretty much as it is. I might tweak the next one though, if people prefer a more trebly listen. I'm away this weekend, so it will probably be midweek when the next one is ready. DM --- On Thu, 15/7/10, Humphrey wrote: From: Humphrey Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 19:44 Hi Mate. In Audacity, use the 'equalisation' function. I started to raise the line (from zero) at 1kHz. At 3kHz the line was about 75% up, towards the top ; from there I took the line right up to the max (24) at the extreme right. The result is to really crank up the treble - this may not be to everyone's taste but I think it makes it sound more FM-like, an improvement. Download the remaster below ... Thanks again to Doc Mango for the original ! http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=XEVH8514 --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Humphrey > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > Regrads, > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > http://www.mediafir e.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > http://peel. wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jul 16 04:24:36 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:24:36 -0000 Subject: Best Of Peel: session surgery Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Mike is back, with a session that I was on the lookout for. Thanks, buddy! Title: Best Of Peel Vol 35 Sessions: Foreheads In A Fishtank #1, Breed #1 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_35 Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jul 16 04:29:09 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:29:09 -0000 Subject: 400 Box (Batch 2): 13 Dec 1979 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Humphrey! It definitely sounds better to my ears. Since we now have both parts of the show, I wonder if anybody fancies a reconstruction job? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Mate. > In Audacity, use the 'equalisation' function. I started to raise the line (from zero) at 1kHz. At 3kHz the line was about 75% up, towards the top ; from there I took the line right up to the max (24) at the extreme right. The result is to really crank up the treble - this may not be to everyone's taste but I think it makes it sound more FM-like, an improvement. Download the remaster below ... > Thanks again to Doc Mango for the original ! > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XEVH8514 > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > Hi Humphrey > > > > Now that is interesting. Please tell me exactly how you did it, if you would be so kind, and I would love to hear the file you "remastered". > > Student reports finished, so now I can get back to more interesting things, like talking to my wife and getting some more Peel shows out. BTW, I hope folk are enjoying the BFBS shows, because the feedback hasn't been consistent, and Carsten has sent me an awful lot of them. Please let me know if there's continued interest, and I'll keep on doing them. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Audio quality is pretty good. I boosted the treble a lot in Audacity and it sounds virtually FM-quality ! > > > > > > Great to hear 'Easy Way Out', by the Adicts, in Peel context - brilliant new-wave stuff. > > > Some great Reggie in the mix as well ... > > > > > > Regrads, > > > Malcolm Mugge > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > > > > > > > This is for a 1979 fan enormously enjoyable. > > > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2010, at 19:59, "steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Many thanks from me too, Doc! > > > > > > > > > > Also to Roger for other recent 400 Box shows, as well as to Steve in Korea and Stuart for all the shares and keeping the wiki on track while I've been away. > > > > > > > > > > Back now and looking forward to catching up with everything. > > > > > > > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Humphrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll second that - great news ! Thanks Doc, for these 'Golden Era' Peel shows ... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for this! Well worth the wait. Your continued efforts are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > Steve [TK} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a deeply regrettable interlude involving broken equipment, the failure of a replacement deck and shameful procrastination, I am now pleased to say that I am in a position to start ripping and sharing the second batch of 400 box tapes that - shockingly - I've had for very nearly two years now. This will plug the gap that exists from November 1979 to Jan 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My first rip is a show that was previously shared in part by Ken Garner. His recording commences near the start of the show and ends some 90 minutes later; the 400 box recording starts in the second hour and completes the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Peel 13 Dec 1979 (incomplete) (53:52) > > > > > > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?2zlyimmnomwiex4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki page > > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots more to come over the next few weeks. Again, apologies all round for the lengthy delay in delivering the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mar.celle@... Fri Jul 16 10:59:25 2010 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:59:25 +0200 Subject: FW: [dr-staff] sad news Message-ID: <000201cb24c5$3103c900$9600000a@PC154981710422> On behalf of Martin's International and Associates, IRAWMA, International Festival of Life, Chicago Music Awards, our heart felt condolency goes out to the family of Lincoln "Sugar" Minott. Sugar Minott contributions to the world of music, and dancehall reggae in particular will long be remembered. Through his company Youth Promotions, several reggae stars were discovered in the late 70s and in the 1980s; includes reggae super-star Tony Rebel, Little John, Tony Tuff, Johnny Osbourne and many more. He won several Martin's International- IRAWMA awards over the years. He plays the roll of father to hundreds of Ghetto kids in western Kingston, Jamaica. The entire reggae community mourned the homegoing of Sugar Minott. I will dedicate next week's Another Nice Mess to him, with two hours of his music (and voice!). Tuesday 20th July, 19 - 21.00 BST. www.anothernicemess.com live-stream: www.dfm.nu Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.441 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3007 - datum van uitgifte: 07/15/10 18:35:00 From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Jul 17 06:33:36 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:33:36 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Eilert alert Message-ID: Fellow Peelites There seems to be a (hopefully temporary) problem with the Mooo Server, thus this show can be downloaded from Megaupload. Show date: 20 December 1998 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_December_1998_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Jul 17 06:37:02 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:37:02 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Eilert alert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, suddenly it's working again, so I've left both links on the page. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > There seems to be a (hopefully temporary) problem with the Mooo Server, thus this show can be downloaded from Megaupload. > > Show date: 20 December 1998 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_December_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From parkermike81@... Sat Jul 17 23:45:02 2010 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:45:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Best Of Peel: session surgery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <540889.29040.qm@...> steve your commitment is contagious,thanks your local mp. --- On Fri, 16/7/10, So It Goes 2512 wrote: From: So It Goes 2512 Subject: [peel] Best Of Peel: session surgery To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 2:24   Fellow Peelites Mike is back, with a session that I was on the lookout for. Thanks, buddy! Title: Best Of Peel Vol 35 Sessions: Foreheads In A Fishtank #1, Breed #1 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_35 Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 18 09:22:36 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:22:36 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Sausages Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Show date: 13 December 1999 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_December_1999_%28BFBS%29 An incomplete show, but still clocking in at an hour and five. Thanks once again to Carsten. Best wishes Steve [TK] From paul4epbev@... Mon Jul 19 23:14:06 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:14:06 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting Message-ID: Just had my first go at adding a tracklisting (25th April 1992). Not sure if I've left anything important out, but would appreciate any suggestions comments to improve. From stuartb@... Tue Jul 20 00:53:25 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:53:25 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there Very comprehensive! Note that the category at the bottom should be changed to the year of the tape i.e. 1992. (There is a Wikia bug which prevents this showing as changed until the page is fully saved). You might want to add hyperlinks to the Discogs page for each release. If this is not a 400 Box tape then the "shared" and "400 Box" categories can be removed. Finally if there are links to the actual show files :@) these can be added at the bottom, though perhaps you already have that in hand! Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "isector100" wrote: > > > Just had my first go at adding a tracklisting (25th April 1992). Not > sure if I've left anything important out, but would appreciate any > suggestions comments to improve. > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Jul 20 04:21:23 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:21:23 -0000 Subject: A gap filled Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Many many thanks to the original taper and uploader of this. Show date: 15 August 1990 Session: Fall #9 (penultimate in Fall In August series) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/15_August_1990 Best wishes Steve [TK] From stuartb@... Tue Jul 20 08:32:10 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:32:10 -0000 Subject: New mixtape - March 1985 Message-ID: Mostly from the first week. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_March_1985 Stuart From stuartb@... Tue Jul 20 17:12:10 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:12:10 -0000 Subject: Another mixtape - April 1985 Message-ID: This contains archive sessions from Simple Minds and Cocteau Twins in very good FM stereo quality, and most of one from Marc And The Mambas in good FM mono. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_April_1985 Stuart From paul4epbev@... Tue Jul 20 23:30:04 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:30:04 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, I've made some MP3s of the tapes, and I'm (probably) happy to share but couple of things to ask first. Sorry if I'm being a bit naive but what's the position as far as copyright material is concerned? The MP3 sound fine to me, but as a beginner at this I'm not sure if I've managed to get the best results. Is it worth someone else having a listen first? (I used my Yamaha KX-393 cassette player and a NAD USB Preamp and Audacity to create the WAV files. I also used Audacity to create the MP3s) Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Hi there > > Very comprehensive! > > Note that the category at the bottom should be changed to the year of the tape i.e. 1992. (There is a Wikia bug which prevents this showing as changed until the page is fully saved). > You might want to add hyperlinks to the Discogs page for each release. > > If this is not a 400 Box tape then the "shared" and "400 Box" categories can be removed. > > Finally if there are links to the actual show files :@) these can be added at the bottom, though perhaps you already have that in hand! > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "isector100" wrote: > > > > > > Just had my first go at adding a tracklisting (25th April 1992). Not > > sure if I've left anything important out, but would appreciate any > > suggestions comments to improve. > > > From brockleyal@... Wed Jul 21 00:18:53 2010 From: brockleyal@... (brockleyal) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:18:53 -0000 Subject: Help ! Some great links have just disappeared. Message-ID: I recently discovered a whole load of new shows linked from http://www.30242.net/ Does anyone know the owner - as this is now bouncing to proweb.net. It was all working just a couple of days ago. There were loads of good shows here that I've not seen linked elsewhere. (I'd also like to add my thanks to all those putting in so much effort to develop these pages) From martinw@... Wed Jul 21 00:37:21 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:37:21 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >Sorry if I'm being a bit naive but what's the position as far as >copyright material is concerned? The members of this group have no rights to any of this material The BBC have the rights to Peel's voice but not to any of the music The BBC have Internet rights to stream any program for 7 days after broadcast that is all. The rights to the music in the shows goes to whoever the rights to the music. Usually this would be the record company that put the record out or that the artist was signed to if a session. If the artist wasn't signed to a company then it belongs to the musicians It is to make it unrealistic for the record companies to chase this up that there is no central repository for these files (it would be like putting a target on your back) and that the files are scattered around People have been unscathed so far and we all hope it stays that way but make no bones about it what this group is doing is illegal even if known to some people in the BBC martinw From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 21 02:26:36 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:26:36 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > >Sorry if I'm being a bit naive but what's the position as far as > >copyright material is concerned? > > The members of this group have no rights to any of this material > The BBC have the rights to Peel's voice but not to any of the music > The BBC have Internet rights to stream any program for 7 days after > broadcast that is all. > The rights to the music in the shows goes to whoever the rights to > the music. Usually this would be the record company that put the > record out or that the artist was signed to if a session. If the artist > wasn't signed to a company then it belongs to the musicians > It is to make it unrealistic for the record companies to chase > this up that there is no central repository for these files (it would > be like putting a target on your back) and that the files are scattered > around > People have been unscathed so far and we all hope it stays that way > but make no bones about it what this group is doing is illegal even > if known to some people in the BBC > > martinw > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 08:12:02 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:12:02 -0000 Subject: Help ! Some great links have just disappeared. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Some of the pages are still accessible http://www.30242b.net/JP_FF_index.html http://www.30242b.net/Content/JP_DK/DK_index.html http://www.30242b.net/Peel%20Group/bill_fromnorthwales/ Try going back through your history and see what actual page you accessed Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "brockleyal" wrote: > > I recently discovered a whole load of new shows linked from > > http://www.30242.net/ > > Does anyone know the owner - as this is now bouncing to proweb.net. It was all working just a couple of days ago. > > There were loads of good shows here that I've not seen linked elsewhere. > > (I'd also like to add my thanks to all those putting in so much effort to develop these pages) > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 08:14:33 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:14:33 -0000 Subject: New mixtape late 1985 Message-ID: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Late_1985 Couple of good sessions in there and even some JP commentary, and mostly in very good to excellent FM stereo quality. Stuart From brockleyal@... Wed Jul 21 10:23:01 2010 From: brockleyal@... (brockleyal) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:23:01 -0000 Subject: Help ! Some great links have just disappeared. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Stuart. This is some of the stuff. There is a link at the bottom of each of these pages that goes back to 'www.30242.net'. This was the link that was working a few days ago and went to an index page with lots more (States, 500 box, Finland, etc..). I clocked a lot of shows here that I'd not seen elsewhere. I'm disappointed to have lost access to these shows, but my general concern is that all the great effort on here could slowly unwind. I've followed the recent discussion explaining (quite correctly) why shows are uploaded all over the place. However, the downside is that content will disappear over time. I've noted RapidShare, for example, have removed several individual shows because 'they have not been accessed for some time'. I'm not an expert on all the various upload sites that are being used, but I assume most have no obligation to continue. I'm not sure what the solution is, but it would be a shame for this great archive to break up. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Some of the pages are still accessible > http://www.30242b.net/JP_FF_index.html > http://www.30242b.net/Content/JP_DK/DK_index.html > http://www.30242b.net/Peel%20Group/bill_fromnorthwales/ > > Try going back through your history and see what actual page you accessed > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "brockleyal" wrote: > > > > I recently discovered a whole load of new shows linked from > > > > http://www.30242.net/ > > > > Does anyone know the owner - as this is now bouncing to proweb.net. It was all working just a couple of days ago. > > > > There were loads of good shows here that I've not seen linked elsewhere. > > > > (I'd also like to add my thanks to all those putting in so much effort to develop these pages) > > > From martinw@... Wed Jul 21 10:36:20 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:36:20 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless martinw From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 21 14:40:55 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:40:55 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Martin It was meant ironically. I'm well aware of the situation, but I fear that any potential sharers would be scared off, and then we never get to hear the shows at all. If I can just attempt to reassure the original poster, I have yet to hear of anybody being prosecuted for sharing vintage radio shows (although I bet somebody knows better). And if we were hounded, then the Radio Caroline group, the Radio Luxembourg group, and the Radio London group (to name but a few) had better watch their backs too. Just out of interest, do we have any examples of anbody being "careless"? What would such behaviour involve? And if the Mooo Server is being hinted at, as I say, I could always stop spending hours and hours every day and weekend editing, track listing, persuading folk to share their tapes...if that would make everyone happier. Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > > > >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > martinw > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 14:40:56 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:40:56 -0000 Subject: Help ! Some great links have just disappeared. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Al The best index page to use is this http://www.30242b.net/JP_index.html from there you can access all of the other categories. I think the Wikia will always hold things together, yes some shows will require a re-up request on this group but I'm sure there is a hard core of obsessives maintaining a complete collection of all available shows. Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "brockleyal" wrote: > > Thanks Stuart. This is some of the stuff. There is a link at the bottom of each of these pages that goes back to 'www.30242.net'. This was the link that was working a few days ago and went to an index page with lots more (States, 500 box, Finland, etc..). I clocked a lot of shows here that I'd not seen elsewhere. > > I'm disappointed to have lost access to these shows, but my general concern is that all the great effort on here could slowly unwind. > > I've followed the recent discussion explaining (quite correctly) why shows are uploaded all over the place. However, the downside is that content will disappear over time. I've noted RapidShare, for example, have removed several individual shows because 'they have not been accessed for some time'. > > I'm not an expert on all the various upload sites that are being used, but I assume most have no obligation to continue. > > I'm not sure what the solution is, but it would be a shame for this great archive to break up. > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Some of the pages are still accessible > > http://www.30242b.net/JP_FF_index.html > > http://www.30242b.net/Content/JP_DK/DK_index.html > > http://www.30242b.net/Peel%20Group/bill_fromnorthwales/ > > > > Try going back through your history and see what actual page you accessed > > > > Stuart > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "brockleyal" wrote: > > > > > > I recently discovered a whole load of new shows linked from > > > > > > http://www.30242.net/ > > > > > > Does anyone know the owner - as this is now bouncing to proweb.net. It was all working just a couple of days ago. > > > > > > There were loads of good shows here that I've not seen linked elsewhere. > > > > > > (I'd also like to add my thanks to all those putting in so much effort to develop these pages) > > > > > > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 14:49:44 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:49:44 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum of 70 downloads ever. If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire EPs and albums in CD rip quality. But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > > > >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > martinw > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 14:54:43 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:54:43 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone unsure about sharing shows could upload it somewhere and only send the link directly to someone on this group, so that they can re-upload it onto their account and release the re-up details more widely. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Hi Martin > > It was meant ironically. I'm well aware of the situation, but I fear that any potential sharers would be scared off, and then we never get to hear the shows at all. > If I can just attempt to reassure the original poster, I have yet to hear of anybody being prosecuted for sharing vintage radio shows (although I bet somebody knows better). And if we were hounded, then the Radio Caroline group, the Radio Luxembourg group, and the Radio London group (to name but a few) had better watch their backs too. > Just out of interest, do we have any examples of anbody being "careless"? What would such behaviour involve? And if the Mooo Server is being hinted at, as I say, I could always stop spending hours and hours every day and weekend editing, track listing, persuading folk to share their tapes...if that would make everyone happier. > > Steve [TK] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > > > > > > >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > > > I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > > > It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > > > martinw > > > From wewalkforonereason@... Wed Jul 21 16:02:28 2010 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:02:28 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wrong on many counts. I am not a lawyer, but ... 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is established in law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc. So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows in the first place" is entirely legal. 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes 1000 infringing items. 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal issues are different? The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum of 70 downloads ever. > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire  EPs and albums in CD rip quality. > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: >> >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: >> > >> > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? >> >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! >> >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 21 16:22:01 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:22:01 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi Stuart Excellent advice, and in fact a practice I've been following already with the contributors currently sending stuff to me. Isector100, if you would like to contact me off list, I can share the shows for you totally anonymously. I hope you are still willing to do this. Thanks to Alasdair for clarifying the legal situation for us in such detail. I understand things better now, and I also apologise to Martin for taking the issue personally. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Anyone unsure about sharing shows could upload it somewhere and only send the link directly to someone on this group, so that they can re-upload it onto their account and release the re-up details more widely. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > Hi Martin > > > > It was meant ironically. I'm well aware of the situation, but I fear that any potential sharers would be scared off, and then we never get to hear the shows at all. > > If I can just attempt to reassure the original poster, I have yet to hear of anybody being prosecuted for sharing vintage radio shows (although I bet somebody knows better). And if we were hounded, then the Radio Caroline group, the Radio Luxembourg group, and the Radio London group (to name but a few) had better watch their backs too. > > Just out of interest, do we have any examples of anbody being "careless"? What would such behaviour involve? And if the Mooo Server is being hinted at, as I say, I could always stop spending hours and hours every day and weekend editing, track listing, persuading folk to share their tapes...if that would make everyone happier. > > > > Steve [TK] > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > > At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > > > > > I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > > > > > It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > > > > > > martinw > > > > > > From robfleay@... Wed Jul 21 16:42:45 2010 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:42:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also a non-lawyer here.. Whilst much of what you say is true - it's pretty clear that the laws as they stand have become hopelessly out of date with the rapid rise of digital technology. We are operating in such a grey area that I can't believe any rights holder would even go there. Establishing the difference between sharing a bit-for-bit digital copy of the original work and sharing a sub-optimal quality copy of a song contained buried within a larger digital file of a rip of a tape of an old radio broadcast would take some serious time to get through in a court of law. The former is relatively easy for the record companies to identify, police and prosecute where necessary - the latter would be a battle that only a fool would engage in. Even more so in our case where the John Peel legacy would doubtless generate a groundswell of support from the artists end of the industry. It would be too much bad publicity and expense in an area where record companies really don't need to be spending money/losing face in the current climate. Not arguing with the facts of law and those on the list who choose to err on the side of caution in such matters but personally I'm distinctly unworried about it. On 21 July 2010 15:02, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > Wrong on many counts. > > I am not a lawyer, but ... > > 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session > recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such > sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV > broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as > Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of > their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing > material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. > > 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is > established in law: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc > . > So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK > test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright > law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows > in the first place" is entirely legal. > > 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely > different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may > be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same > as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes > 1000 infringing items. > > 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried > about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and > on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at > web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually > and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the > two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly > more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal > issues are different? > > The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which > the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening > themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples > provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds > duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. > (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - > see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). > > > On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most > "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I > don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire > shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum > of 70 downloads ever. > > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more > concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire EPs and albums > in CD rip quality. > > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > >> > >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right > now? > >> > >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > >> > >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > From brockleyal@... Wed Jul 21 16:50:09 2010 From: brockleyal@... (brockleyal) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:50:09 -0000 Subject: Help ! Some great links have just disappeared. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's the page ! Thanks Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > Al > The best index page to use is this http://www.30242b.net/JP_index.html from there you can access all of the other categories. > > I think the Wikia will always hold things together, yes some shows will require a re-up request on this group but I'm sure there is a hard core of obsessives maintaining a complete collection of all available shows. > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "brockleyal" wrote: > > > > Thanks Stuart. This is some of the stuff. There is a link at the bottom of each of these pages that goes back to 'www.30242.net'. This was the link that was working a few days ago and went to an index page with lots more (States, 500 box, Finland, etc..). I clocked a lot of shows here that I'd not seen elsewhere. > > > > I'm disappointed to have lost access to these shows, but my general concern is that all the great effort on here could slowly unwind. > > > > I've followed the recent discussion explaining (quite correctly) why shows are uploaded all over the place. However, the downside is that content will disappear over time. I've noted RapidShare, for example, have removed several individual shows because 'they have not been accessed for some time'. > > > > I'm not an expert on all the various upload sites that are being used, but I assume most have no obligation to continue. > > > > I'm not sure what the solution is, but it would be a shame for this great archive to break up. > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > > > Some of the pages are still accessible > > > http://www.30242b.net/JP_FF_index.html > > > http://www.30242b.net/Content/JP_DK/DK_index.html > > > http://www.30242b.net/Peel%20Group/bill_fromnorthwales/ > > > > > > Try going back through your history and see what actual page you accessed > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "brockleyal" wrote: > > > > > > > > I recently discovered a whole load of new shows linked from > > > > > > > > http://www.30242.net/ > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the owner - as this is now bouncing to proweb.net. It was all working just a couple of days ago. > > > > > > > > There were loads of good shows here that I've not seen linked elsewhere. > > > > > > > > (I'd also like to add my thanks to all those putting in so much effort to develop these pages) > > > > > > > > > > From brockleyal@... Wed Jul 21 16:57:11 2010 From: brockleyal@... (brockleyal) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:57:11 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As someone once said .. C30 C60 C90 ... GO ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > Also a non-lawyer here.. > > Whilst much of what you say is true - it's pretty clear that the laws as > they stand have become hopelessly out of date with the rapid rise of digital > technology. We are operating in such a grey area that I can't believe any > rights holder would even go there. > > Establishing the difference between sharing a bit-for-bit digital copy of > the original work and sharing a sub-optimal quality copy of a song contained > buried within a larger digital file of a rip of a tape of an old radio > broadcast would take some serious time to get through in a court of law. > > The former is relatively easy for the record companies to identify, police > and prosecute where necessary - the latter would be a battle that only a > fool would engage in. Even more so in our case where the John Peel legacy > would doubtless generate a groundswell of support from the artists end of > the industry. It would be too much bad publicity and expense in an area > where record companies really don't need to be spending money/losing face in > the current climate. > > Not arguing with the facts of law and those on the list who choose to err on > the side of caution in such matters but personally I'm distinctly unworried > about it. > > > > > > On 21 July 2010 15:02, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > > Wrong on many counts. > > > > I am not a lawyer, but ... > > > > 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session > > recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such > > sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV > > broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as > > Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of > > their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing > > material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. > > > > 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is > > established in law: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc > > . > > So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK > > test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright > > law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows > > in the first place" is entirely legal. > > > > 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely > > different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may > > be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same > > as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes > > 1000 infringing items. > > > > 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried > > about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and > > on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at > > web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually > > and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the > > two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly > > more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal > > issues are different? > > > > The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which > > the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening > > themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples > > provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds > > duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. > > (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - > > see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). > > > > > > On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > > > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most > > "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I > > don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire > > shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum > > of 70 downloads ever. > > > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more > > concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire EPs and albums > > in CD rip quality. > > > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > >> > > >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right > > now? > > >> > > >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > >> > > >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 17:59:31 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:59:31 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All very interesting and undoubtedly true but my points are hardly wrong when they are all prefaced by "it may be" and "I think" and "If I were". Regarding the "no more legit than taping in the first place" statement, well that's true, even if it turns out that it was legal to tape in the first place, sharing then becomes "less legit". Remember also at the time most of these tapes were made, the law had not caught up with fair use time shifting and the slogan was "home taping is killing music". (Pedant's hat off now). Also I am not disputing that sharing old battered tapes is any less illegal than creating and distributing perfect digital copies of commercially available material. The sub-optimal and possibly incomplete copy is likely to increase official sales of the genuine article while freely available perfect copies will have the opposite effect. If I were an artist I know who I would be asserting my rights to! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > Wrong on many counts. > > I am not a lawyer, but ... > > 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session > recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such > sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV > broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as > Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of > their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing > material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. > > 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is > established in law: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc. > So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK > test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright > law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows > in the first place" is entirely legal. > > 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely > different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may > be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same > as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes > 1000 infringing items. > > 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried > about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and > on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at > web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually > and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the > two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly > more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal > issues are different? > > The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which > the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening > themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples > provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds > duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. > (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - > see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). > > > On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum of 70 downloads ever. > > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire  EPs and albums in CD rip quality. > > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > >> > >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > >> > >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > >> > >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > From davidquantick@... Wed Jul 21 18:22:41 2010 From: davidquantick@... (Davidquantick) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:22:41 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01B5F8AC-497E-44AA-85DF-80851865F0C5@...> Anyone got any Talisman? On 21 Jul 2010, at 16:59, "Stuart" wrote: > All very interesting and undoubtedly true but my points are hardly wrong when they are all prefaced by "it may be" and "I think" and "If I were". Regarding the "no more legit than taping in the first place" statement, well that's true, even if it turns out that it was legal to tape in the first place, sharing then becomes "less legit". Remember also at the time most of these tapes were made, the law had not caught up with fair use time shifting and the slogan was "home taping is killing music". > > (Pedant's hat off now). > > Also I am not disputing that sharing old battered tapes is any less illegal than creating and distributing perfect digital copies of commercially available material. The sub-optimal and possibly incomplete copy is likely to increase official sales of the genuine article while freely available perfect copies will have the opposite effect. If I were an artist I know who I would be asserting my rights to! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > > > Wrong on many counts. > > > > I am not a lawyer, but ... > > > > 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session > > recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such > > sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV > > broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as > > Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of > > their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing > > material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. > > > > 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is > > established in law: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc. > > So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK > > test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright > > law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows > > in the first place" is entirely legal. > > > > 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely > > different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may > > be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same > > as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes > > 1000 infringing items. > > > > 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried > > about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and > > on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at > > web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually > > and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the > > two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly > > more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal > > issues are different? > > > > The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which > > the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening > > themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples > > provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds > > duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. > > (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - > > see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). > > > > > > On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > > > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum of 70 downloads ever. > > > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire EPs and albums in CD rip quality. > > > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > >> > > >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > >> > > >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > >> > > >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > From paul4epbev@... Wed Jul 21 19:53:38 2010 From: paul4epbev@... (isector100) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:38 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Thanks for all the comments, and for making clear the potential risks of sharing recordings. It's not put me off, although I will be careful. I'll now and try and organise the shows to go with the 2 tracklistings I've added recently. Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > hi Stuart > > Excellent advice, and in fact a practice I've been following already with the contributors currently sending stuff to me. Isector100, if you would like to contact me off list, I can share the shows for you totally anonymously. I hope you are still willing to do this. > Thanks to Alasdair for clarifying the legal situation for us in such detail. I understand things better now, and I also apologise to Martin for taking the issue personally. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > > > Anyone unsure about sharing shows could upload it somewhere and only send the link directly to someone on this group, so that they can re-upload it onto their account and release the re-up details more widely. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Martin > > > > > > It was meant ironically. I'm well aware of the situation, but I fear that any potential sharers would be scared off, and then we never get to hear the shows at all. > > > If I can just attempt to reassure the original poster, I have yet to hear of anybody being prosecuted for sharing vintage radio shows (although I bet somebody knows better). And if we were hounded, then the Radio Caroline group, the Radio Luxembourg group, and the Radio London group (to name but a few) had better watch their backs too. > > > Just out of interest, do we have any examples of anbody being "careless"? What would such behaviour involve? And if the Mooo Server is being hinted at, as I say, I could always stop spending hours and hours every day and weekend editing, track listing, persuading folk to share their tapes...if that would make everyone happier. > > > > > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > > > > At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > > > > > > > I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > > > > > > > It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > > > > > > > > > martinw > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 19:53:58 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:53:58 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <01B5F8AC-497E-44AA-85DF-80851865F0C5@...> Message-ID: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Rolf_Harris_81 Also some available on Spotify Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > Anyone got any Talisman? > > > > On 21 Jul 2010, at 16:59, "Stuart" wrote: > > > All very interesting and undoubtedly true but my points are hardly wrong when they are all prefaced by "it may be" and "I think" and "If I were". Regarding the "no more legit than taping in the first place" statement, well that's true, even if it turns out that it was legal to tape in the first place, sharing then becomes "less legit". Remember also at the time most of these tapes were made, the law had not caught up with fair use time shifting and the slogan was "home taping is killing music". > > > > (Pedant's hat off now). > > > > Also I am not disputing that sharing old battered tapes is any less illegal than creating and distributing perfect digital copies of commercially available material. The sub-optimal and possibly incomplete copy is likely to increase official sales of the genuine article while freely available perfect copies will have the opposite effect. If I were an artist I know who I would be asserting my rights to! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > > > > > Wrong on many counts. > > > > > > I am not a lawyer, but ... > > > > > > 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session > > > recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such > > > sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV > > > broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as > > > Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of > > > their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing > > > material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. > > > > > > 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is > > > established in law: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc. > > > So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK > > > test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright > > > law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows > > > in the first place" is entirely legal. > > > > > > 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely > > > different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may > > > be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same > > > as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes > > > 1000 infringing items. > > > > > > 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried > > > about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and > > > on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at > > > web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually > > > and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the > > > two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly > > > more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal > > > issues are different? > > > > > > The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which > > > the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening > > > themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples > > > provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds > > > duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. > > > (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - > > > see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). > > > > > > > > > On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > > > > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum of 70 downloads ever. > > > > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire EPs and albums in CD rip quality. > > > > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > >> > > > >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > > >> > > > >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > > >> > > > >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Wed Jul 21 20:09:08 2010 From: stuartb@... (mantoid2) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:09:08 -0000 Subject: New and Last Mixtape for 1985 Message-ID: My latest bit of subterfuge http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_Early_1985 Stuart From davidquantick@... Wed Jul 21 21:01:33 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <281511.81053.qm@...> Ta! From martinw@... Wed Jul 21 21:54:53 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:54:53 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <01B5F8AC-497E-44AA-85DF-80851865F0C5@...> References: <01B5F8AC-497E-44AA-85DF-80851865F0C5@...> Message-ID: At 17:22 21/07/2010, you wrote: > > >Anyone got any Talisman? > Rumour has it that the Evening Session session and the Peel one are being (totally illegally) uploaded in the very new future Watch this space martinw From davidquantick@... Wed Jul 21 22:41:09 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:41:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <438663.98303.qm@...> Yay. Now all I need is Anomie Culture Dat and I'm sorted. From martinw@... Wed Jul 21 22:53:17 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:53:17 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: <01B5F8AC-497E-44AA-85DF-80851865F0C5@...> Message-ID: At 20:54 21/07/2010, you wrote: > > >At 17:22 21/07/2010, you wrote: > > > > > >Anyone got any Talisman? > > > >Rumour has it that the Evening Session session and the Peel one >are being (totally illegally) uploaded in the very new future > >Watch this space > >martinw http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6024968/Talisman%20-%20Skinner%20-%20session%20-%2014-7-81.mp3 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6024968/Talisman%20-%20Peel%20-%20session%20-%207-9-81.mp3 From AndrewThezmore@... Wed Jul 21 23:16:05 2010 From: AndrewThezmore@... (Andrew) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:16:05 -0000 Subject: hmmm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bit quiet round these parts today... this is a bit more interesting than the last one - loads of other good stuff in here too http://www.flickr.com/photos/51106326@N00/3934646480/sizes/l/in/set-72157622410623634/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > Stumbled across this > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/51106326@N00/4511891467/sizes/l/ > > anybody round here actually enter the competition (scroll to the bottom of the page) > > Also looking forward to some new 1985 tapes - cheers > From stuartb@... Thu Jul 22 00:05:49 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:05:49 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <438663.98303.qm@...> Message-ID: What is the official name for a phrase with no Google hits again? Then again the concept of anomie is very interesting in itself, somewhere in between depression and anarchy --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > Yay. Now all I need is Anomie Culture Dat and I'm sorted. > From davidquantick@... Thu Jul 22 00:08:16 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:08:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <479843.48551.qm@...> I can't spell it, but it was a reggae single. Anomieculture. Anomiekultur... found it once... --- On Wed, 21/7/10, Stuart wrote: From: Stuart Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 23:05   What is the official name for a phrase with no Google hits again? Then again the concept of anomie is very interesting in itself, somewhere in between depression and anarchy --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > Yay. Now all I need is Anomie Culture Dat and I'm sorted. > From ken_garner@... Thu Jul 22 03:29:04 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:29:04 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <479843.48551.qm@...> Message-ID: sorry, coming to the legal updates rather late. Martin and Alastair are correct on the letter of the law (see useful concise link and fact sheets below). Rob and Stuart are right on the realistic online risks and circumstances: if you put up a few old radio shows in sub optimal, compressed, off-air recordings on one of the upload/download sites, unless you pay for a premium account, they delete them after 90 days anyway if no-one has downloaded them, so this is some protection. You can always put them up for just a few days anyway. Hence the very common and useful phrase here "re-up". Although it's highly unlikely record companies would go after the kinds of activities several of us contribute to with off air radio tapes, and certainly not the BBC (unless high quality discrete sessions/ session tracks), it is wise to be cautious, disparate, disagregated, time-limited, in posting any links to files. The fact that we agreed when we embarked on the 400 Box project eventually to donate lossless rips of everything we had collectively done by the end to the BBC is a point in our defence, if activities such as ours were ever targeted. This would make legal action threatened by any record company look foolish. Frankly they have bigger problems to worry about. For example, I can identify at least 4 instances where tracks that have been commercially released by labels, were only "found" by the off-air archiving efforts of members of this group. If it ever came to court, they would look - could easily be made to look - mean spirited and hypocritical. k http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law - until the 88 act RADIO taping for home time-shifted listening (as opposed to TV recording) was actually illegal (hence Peel's frequent comment when reading out a letter which mentioned taping the show "I don't think you are supposed to do that..."), an anomaly, left out when an earlier act had allowed home video recording. As Alastair points out, law in the US is more liberal on "fair use", which is why US podcasts have music in them, and Uk ones do not. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > I can't spell it, but it was a reggae single. Anomieculture. Anomiekultur... found it once... > > --- On Wed, 21/7/10, Stuart wrote: > > From: Stuart > Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 23:05 > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > > > What is the official name for a phrase with no Google hits again? Then again the concept of anomie is very interesting in itself, somewhere in between depression and anarchy > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > > > > Yay. Now all I need is Anomie Culture Dat and I'm sorted. > > > > From lollygagger@... Thu Jul 22 13:54:06 2010 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:54:06 +0100 Subject: [peel] hmmm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86174C3BA32D45FC90B25BA983B6D09C@LAPTOP> Hi Nice article Andrew. As as young peel show listener I very clearly recall Peely going on about being 40 and thinking "what an old gimmer!" mmmm how things change........ ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: [peel] hmmm Bit quiet round these parts today... this is a bit more interesting than the last one - loads of other good stuff in here too http://www.flickr.com/photos/51106326@N00/3934646480/sizes/l/in/set-72157622410623634/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > Stumbled across this > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/51106326@N00/4511891467/sizes/l/ > > anybody round here actually enter the competition (scroll to the bottom of the page) > > Also looking forward to some new 1985 tapes - cheers > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/22/10 07:36:00 From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jul 22 18:17:07 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:17:07 -0000 Subject: 1999: back again Message-ID: Fellow Peelites It was 11 years ago today... Show date: 22 July 1999 Session: Klute (rpt) Peelenium: 1930 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_July_1999 Best wishes and many thanks to the taper and uploader. Steve [TK] From gustard33@... Thu Jul 22 19:08:47 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:08:47 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 Message-ID: I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 Mutant Mirrors Track 2 CD (Si): Track 2 INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt cheers, Gus From saipanda@... Thu Jul 22 19:20:43 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:20:43 -0000 Subject: 1999: back again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks to Steve and the taper! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > It was 11 years ago today... > > Show date: 22 July 1999 > Session: Klute (rpt) > Peelenium: 1930 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_July_1999 > > Best wishes and many thanks to the taper and uploader. > > Steve [TK] > From AndrewThezmore@... Thu Jul 22 20:36:24 2010 From: AndrewThezmore@... (Andrew) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:36:24 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 I think you'll enjoy this Gus! http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 Cheers Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > Mutant Mirrors > Track 2 > CD (Si): Track 2 > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > cheers, > Gus > From AndrewThezmore@... Thu Jul 22 20:38:18 2010 From: AndrewThezmore@... (Andrew) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:38:18 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ermmm 4th --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > Cheers > Andrew > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > Track 2 > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > cheers, > > Gus > > > From martinw@... Fri Jul 23 09:56:19 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:56:19 +0100 Subject: World Music Message-ID: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a248464/bbc-radio-3-opens-up-world-music-archive.html From paul@... Fri Jul 23 11:21:58 2010 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:21:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] World Music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2kni46pvtcainq456dfltdptuug002uh8t@...> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:56:19 +0100, you wrote: >http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a248464/bbc-radio-3-opens-up-world-music-archive.html The BBC address (not in the article) is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/worldmusic/ Paul From ford.alan@... Fri Jul 23 20:50:57 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:50:57 +0100 Subject: John's Desert Island Discs Message-ID: I guess you've all heard it already, but here's a file featuring DIDs appearances by JP, Morrissey, Suggs, David Gilmour, Billy Connolly, Brian May and Charlie Watts. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7X0YYUCM Cheers Alan From ken_garner@... Fri Jul 23 21:18:33 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:18:33 -0000 Subject: World Music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, martin - of course, very few international record company or major copyright problems with this stuff! But, seriously, a sign that where it can, the BBC is beginning to move along the right lines, k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a248464/bbc-radio-3-opens-up-world-music-archive.html > From gustard33@... Fri Jul 23 21:46:55 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:46:55 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? cheers, Gus --- In peel@...m, "Andrew" wrote: > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > Cheers > Andrew > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > Track 2 > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > cheers, > > Gus > > > From jt.gray@... Fri Jul 23 21:51:14 2010 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:51:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] John's Desert Island Discs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6621E8B2-4CA7-4DBF-BBC5-8EF1104D1E50@...> Hmmm - 'the file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable'. Does that mean it will become available again later? John Gray On 23 Jul 2010, at 19:50, Alan Ford wrote: I guess you've all heard it already, but here's a file featuring DIDs appearances by JP, Morrissey, Suggs, David Gilmour, Billy Connolly, Brian May and Charlie Watts. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7X0YYUCM Cheers Alan From ken_garner@... Fri Jul 23 22:00:30 2010 From: ken_garner@... (ken) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:00:30 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: wait half an hour and try again! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? > cheers, > Gus > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > > > Cheers > > Andrew > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > > Track 2 > > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > > > cheers, > > > Gus > > > > > > From ford.alan@... Fri Jul 23 22:20:29 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:20:29 +0100 Subject: [peel] John's Desert Island Discs In-Reply-To: <6621E8B2-4CA7-4DBF-BBC5-8EF1104D1E50@...> References: <6621E8B2-4CA7-4DBF-BBC5-8EF1104D1E50@...> Message-ID: Yeah, you have to keep trying I'm afraid. BTW, haven't heard the non-JP shows myself yet. Also, just noticed there's a program at 10.20 on BBC4 tonight called Prog Rock Britannia - "including the views of John Peel, ...". Alan On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:51 PM, John Gray wrote: > > > Hmmm - 'the file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable'. > Does that mean it will become available again later? > > John Gray > > > On 23 Jul 2010, at 19:50, Alan Ford wrote: > > > > I guess you've all heard it already, but here's a file featuring DIDs > appearances by JP, Morrissey, Suggs, David Gilmour, Billy Connolly, > Brian May and Charlie Watts. > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7X0YYUCM > > Cheers > > Alan > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Fri Jul 23 22:33:08 2010 From: AndrewThezmore@... (Andrew) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:33:08 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Check your emails Gus! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > wait half an hour and try again! > k > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? > > cheers, > > Gus > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > > > > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > > > > > Cheers > > > Andrew > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > > > Track 2 > > > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > From gustard33@... Sat Jul 24 11:38:54 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:38:54 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oy ! Oy ! thanks Andrew - I'll die a happy man now ! (I mean not yet but one day ) (=; --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > Check your emails Gus! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > > > wait half an hour and try again! > > k > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? > > > cheers, > > > Gus > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > > > > > > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > > > > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > > > > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > > > > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > > > > Track 2 > > > > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > > > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Sat Jul 24 13:03:20 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:03:20 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <479843.48551.qm@...> Message-ID: David A me no culture dat, by Icarus http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_February_1982 Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_HSD7-Pq1s and http://filereggae.blogspot.com/2007/12/icarus-state-of-mind-198x.html Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > I can't spell it, but it was a reggae single. Anomieculture. Anomiekultur... found it once... > > --- On Wed, 21/7/10, Stuart wrote: > > From: Stuart > Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 23:05 > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > > > What is the official name for a phrase with no Google hits again? Then again the concept of anomie is very interesting in itself, somewhere in between depression and anarchy > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > > > > Yay. Now all I need is Anomie Culture Dat and I'm sorted. > > > > From davidquantick@... Sat Jul 24 14:06:50 2010 From: davidquantick@... (Davidquantick) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:06:50 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58805CCF-9DFA-41E3-868B-263D377D45B0@...> Wow thanks! On 24 Jul 2010, at 12:03, "Stuart" wrote: > David > > A me no culture dat, by Icarus > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_February_1982 > > Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_HSD7-Pq1s > and > http://filereggae.blogspot.com/2007/12/icarus-state-of-mind-198x.html > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > > > > I can't spell it, but it was a reggae single. Anomieculture. Anomiekultur... found it once... > > > > --- On Wed, 21/7/10, Stuart wrote: > > > > From: Stuart > > Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 23:05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the official name for a phrase with no Google hits again? Then again the concept of anomie is very interesting in itself, somewhere in between depression and anarchy > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yay. Now all I need is Anomie Culture Dat and I'm sorted. > > > > > > > > > From martinw@... Sat Jul 24 20:48:45 2010 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:48:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <58805CCF-9DFA-41E3-868B-263D377D45B0@...> References: <58805CCF-9DFA-41E3-868B-263D377D45B0@...> Message-ID: >> >>A me no culture dat, by Icarus >> >>http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_February_1982 >> >>Also >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_HSD7-Pq1s >>and >>http://filereggae.blogspot.com/2007/12/icarus-state-of-mind-198x.html >> >>Stuart By one of those extraordinary coincidences last night 6Music repeated the Icarus Peel session http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00t3z4y#synopsis The Improbability Drive in full effect! martinw From ford.alan@... Sat Jul 24 22:07:06 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:07:06 +0100 Subject: OT Surf's Up Message-ID: We* are off to Polzeath for a day's surfing tomorrow, and by co-incidence today I downloaded 50 surf records from the early 60's, with at least one by Dick Dale. If anyone else is interested I could zip 'em up and megaupload them. Cheers Alan * I say 'we', but I just drive and lie on the beach. From gustard33@... Sat Jul 24 11:40:27 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:40:27 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks a lot Andrew - that really made my day ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > Check your emails Gus! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > > > wait half an hour and try again! > > k > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? > > > cheers, > > > Gus > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > > > > > > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > > > > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > > > > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > > > > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > > > > Track 2 > > > > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > > > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From gustard33@... Sat Jul 24 16:50:14 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:50:14 -0000 Subject: New Tracklisting In-Reply-To: <01B5F8AC-497E-44AA-85DF-80851865F0C5@...> Message-ID: As someone who releases music and had some stuff played on john peel - I am actually offended that anybody might raise a legal objection to someone who taped my music off John Peel who might now upload it for anyone to hear - I would venture to guess that 99.9 percent of other artists on who were played on the show would feel the same - it would effectively be helping to kill the memory of the man who gave us a platform from which to launch our work in the first place. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Davidquantick wrote: > > Anyone got any Talisman? > > > > On 21 Jul 2010, at 16:59, "Stuart" wrote: > > > All very interesting and undoubtedly true but my points are hardly wrong when they are all prefaced by "it may be" and "I think" and "If I were". Regarding the "no more legit than taping in the first place" statement, well that's true, even if it turns out that it was legal to tape in the first place, sharing then becomes "less legit". Remember also at the time most of these tapes were made, the law had not caught up with fair use time shifting and the slogan was "home taping is killing music". > > > > (Pedant's hat off now). > > > > Also I am not disputing that sharing old battered tapes is any less illegal than creating and distributing perfect digital copies of commercially available material. The sub-optimal and possibly incomplete copy is likely to increase official sales of the genuine article while freely available perfect copies will have the opposite effect. If I were an artist I know who I would be asserting my rights to! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > > > > > Wrong on many counts. > > > > > > I am not a lawyer, but ... > > > > > > 1. Sites that share unreleased music (including BBC session > > > recordings) proliferate under the eyes of the record industry. Such > > > sites have not been targeted except when entities such as (some) TV > > > broadcasters, artist managements, or other legal entities (such as > > > Bill Graham archives / Wolfgangs vault) have asserted ownership of > > > their [claimed] copyrights. Although the [allegedly] infringing > > > material has been brought down, the site as a whole is not threatened. > > > > > > 2. The right to timeshifted home recording for personal use is > > > established in law: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc. > > > So far as I know (and again, IANAL), there is no such equivalent UK > > > test case, but the concept of fair use does exist within UK copyright > > > law. If you accept this, then the conclusion is that "taping the shows > > > in the first place" is entirely legal. > > > > > > 3. Distribution of any potentially infringing material has most likely > > > different legal status to receiving; for instance the penalty that may > > > be applied to an individual for receiving stolen goods is not the same > > > as the penalty that may be applied to an individual that distributes > > > 1000 infringing items. > > > > > > 4. You claim on the one hand "I don't think anyone is too worried > > > about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips" and > > > on the other hand you think the copyright owners should be looking at > > > web sites hosting material that is packaged differently. Conceptually > > > and technically there does not seem to be any difference between the > > > two; if you are conceiving that the former are shared in a slightly > > > more private way than the latter, do you really think that the legal > > > issues are different? > > > > > > The bottom line is that anyone who distributes audio material on which > > > the copyright has been asserted (ie released commercially) is opening > > > themselves up to copyright infringement (why do you think the samples > > > provided by amazon are limited to low quality and 30 seconds > > > duration?), but material that has not been released is fair game. > > > (After that material has been released, it is no longer fair game - > > > see the policies of sites such as dimeadozen, thetradersden etc). > > > > > > > > > On 21 July 2010 13:49, Stuart wrote: > > > > Ironically enough it may be packaged sessions that attract most "interest" especially if the BBC start to make these available for a fee! I don't think anyone is too worried about extremely delayed podcasts of entire shows with tape flips, interference and occasionally AM sound with a maximum of 70 downloads ever. > > > > If I were working for a record company or was I musician I would be more concerned with all these Blogspot sites which upload entire EPs and albums in CD rip quality. > > > > But yes this is no more legit than taping the shows in the first place! > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > >> > > > >> At 01:26 21/07/2010, Si It Goes wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >That's great news. So shall I just stop what I have been doing right now? > > > >> > > > >> I doubt if I've said anything you don't already know! > > > >> > > > >> It has to be said every so often so people don't get careless > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 25 06:20:40 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:20:40 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Behemoth Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. Show date: 08 January 1998 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve [TK] From ford.alan@... Sun Jul 25 09:50:14 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:50:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. Alan On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 < so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > > > Fellow Peelites > > Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. > > Show date: 08 January 1998 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Sun Jul 25 11:05:46 2010 From: AndrewThezmore@... (Andrew) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:05:46 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You are very welcome Gus - a bit more than a passing mention wasn't it! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > thanks a lot Andrew - that really made my day ! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > Check your emails Gus! > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > > > > > wait half an hour and try again! > > > k > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? > > > > cheers, > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > > > > > > > > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > > > > > > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > > > > > > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > > > > > Track 2 > > > > > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > > > > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Sun Jul 25 12:49:19 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:49:19 +0100 Subject: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CA9F91264414F9783253028D4A4EBD7@Stuartnew> I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and it took me straight to a link to the file. Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Ford Sent: 25 July 2010 08:50 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. Alan On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Fellow Peelites Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. Show date: 08 January 1998 Wiki: http://peel. wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve [TK] From ford.alan@... Sun Jul 25 23:44:25 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:44:25 +0100 Subject: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: <0CA9F91264414F9783253028D4A4EBD7@Stuartnew> References: <0CA9F91264414F9783253028D4A4EBD7@Stuartnew> Message-ID: I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and got a whole page of links; I can now see this show near the bottom, under BFBS. I'm sure it wasn't there before. Thanks to all involved. Alan On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Stuart wrote: > > > I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and it took me straight to a > link to the file. > > > > Stuart > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan > Ford > *Sent:* 25 July 2010 08:50 > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth > > > > > > Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. > > Alan > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 < > so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > > > > Fellow Peelites > > Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. > > Show date: 08 January 1998 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Jul 26 03:27:27 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:27:27 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Alan Glad you were able to get the file after my adjustments. I replied three times yesterday but none of my messages appeared. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and got a whole page of links; I > can now see this show near the bottom, under BFBS. I'm sure it wasn't there > before. > Thanks to all involved. > Alan > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and it took me straight to a > > link to the file. > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan > > Ford > > *Sent:* 25 July 2010 08:50 > > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. > > > > Alan > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 < > > so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. > > > > Show date: 08 January 1998 > > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 25 11:05:33 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:05:33 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Alan It wasn't, so I've added it to the list, but that is only a page that gives you the details of what's available (in progress). So...I've added a direct link, courtesy of brbr. Just click it and you will be taken straight to the file. Glad folks like these shows, as the sound quality is great. Carsten tells me he taped them all onto VHS and is hurriedly digitising them in case his machine breaks and he can't get it fixed. Such dedication to the man. BTW, did you see my message about Desert Island Discs? I would love it if you had more. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. > > Alan > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 < > so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. > > > > Show date: 08 January 1998 > > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > > From ford.alan@... Mon Jul 26 10:45:02 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:45:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks Steve. A message I posted yesterday (about 60's surf records) hasn't come back to me, although it is on the web-site; as is another one from you about Desert Island Discs, which I didn't receive. In both cases (surf/DIDS) I am merely re-posting stuff from other sites. If more becomes available I'll let you know. One of them has posted several Peel sessions recently. I'm assuming they're ones already available, so haven't been in any hurry to repost them. I'll make a list sometime, although I am due to become a Grandad today so might get distracted. Cheers Alan On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:27 AM, So It Goes 2512 < so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > > > Dear Alan > > Glad you were able to get the file after my adjustments. I replied three > times yesterday but none of my messages appeared. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford > wrote: > > > > I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and got a whole page of > links; I > > can now see this show near the bottom, under BFBS. I'm sure it wasn't > there > > before. > > Thanks to all involved. > > Alan > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and it took me straight to > a > > > link to the file. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > *From:* peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > peel@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Alan > > > Ford > > > *Sent:* 25 July 2010 08:50 > > > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 < > > > so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > > > Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. > > > > > > Show date: 08 January 1998 > > > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dr_mango2004@... Mon Jul 26 16:27:07 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:27:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: New: 14 October 1996 (Peel in for Mark Radcliffe) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <172419.39049.qm@...> Hi all. Before I resume my 400 box rips, I've got a couple of things in my collection to share first. I've mentioned both in the past: I'd intended to rip them back in 2008 before my tape deck woes threw a spanner into the soup. First up is a 20 minute extract of a show from the second week in 1996 when Peel sat in for Mark Radcliffe's Radio 1 evening show, which went out from 10pm - midnight. Monday 14 October 1996 featured a live session from the peerless Half Man Half Biscuit. At the time of recording, FM reception on my stereo system was not great, so in the period 1994 - 96 I recorded a few radio shows onto VHS through my satellite receiver, then later connected the video player to my stereo to record the session tracks etc onto cassette. In this case I transferred the HMHB content, then (sadly) recycled the video tape by recording over the full show. Bah! Source: satellite radio > VHS tape > TDK D90 cassette. The sound quality is very clear, but it's in mono. John Peel 14 Oct 1996.mp3 (20:36) [320 kbps mp3] http://www.mediafire.com/?tqv7xd07y00wvu5 Dr Mango. From ford.alan@... Mon Jul 26 17:49:19 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:49:19 +0100 Subject: [peel] New: 14 October 1996 (Peel in for Mark Radcliffe) In-Reply-To: <172419.39049.qm@...> References: <172419.39049.qm@...> Message-ID: Cheers birdpoo. Alan On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Dr Mango wrote: > > > Hi all. > > Before I resume my 400 box rips, I've got a couple of things in my > collection to share first. I've mentioned both in the past: I'd intended to > rip them back in 2008 before my tape deck woes threw a spanner into the > soup. > > First up is a 20 minute extract of a show from the second week in 1996 when > Peel sat in for Mark Radcliffe's Radio 1 evening show, which went out from > 10pm - midnight. > > Monday 14 October 1996 featured a live session from the peerless Half Man > Half Biscuit. At the time of recording, FM reception on my stereo system was > not great, so in the period 1994 - 96 I recorded a few radio shows onto VHS > through my satellite receiver, then later connected the video player to my > stereo to record the session tracks etc onto cassette. In this case I > transferred the HMHB content, then (sadly) recycled the video tape by > recording over the full show. Bah! > > Source: satellite radio > VHS tape > TDK D90 cassette. > The sound quality is very clear, but it's in mono. > > John Peel 14 Oct 1996.mp3 (20:36) [320 kbps mp3] > http://www.mediafire.com/?tqv7xd07y00wvu5 > > Dr Mango. > > > From makulaturverlag@... Mon Jul 26 14:53:58 2010 From: makulaturverlag@... (Hans-Georg Schaefer) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:53:58 +0200 Subject: Radio Eins Nr. 155 In-Reply-To: References: <0CA9F91264414F9783253028D4A4EBD7@Stuartnew> Message-ID: John Peel (Nr. 155) 01/12/13.mp3 From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Jul 26 19:02:30 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:02:30 -0000 Subject: Radio Eins Nr. 155 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Vielen Dank für diese Datei, Hans-Georg! I'm really glad some more of Peel's overseas shows are coming to light. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Hans-Georg Schaefer wrote: > > > John Peel (Nr. 155) 01/12/13.mp3 > From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Jul 26 20:37:07 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:37:07 -0000 Subject: fed up Message-ID: Four out of my last six posts have not shown up here. If this one gets through, please check the Wiki fonew shows. Goddammit. From dr_mango2004@... Mon Jul 26 20:50:26 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:50:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: New: John Peel Around the World (October 2005) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <604475.10745.qm@...> Oops, something happened mid-typing earlier and the work in progress email was sent to the group. Take 2: As promised earlier, here's the second rip from my collection. This was a 2 hour documentary broadcast on Radio 1 in the early hours of Monday 10 October 2005 in the One World slot, celebrating some of the shows Peel made from around the world - some of which have been shared here by Ken Garner in original broadcast form. The tracklisting can be found in the archives of the Radio One website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/oneworld/tracklistingarchive.shtml?20051010 Note that this is incomplete, as - for example - it omits Schneider TM's "The Light 3000" from the Sonar Festival, broadcast 18 June 2003. There are a couple of small edits for tape flips, but I managed to do these mid-song so as not to lose any Peel links. Download John Peel Around the World.mp3 (1:57:58) 162 MB (192 kbps) http://www.mediafire.com/?ncro3sx1zbcsyxp Dr M. From dr_mango2004@... Mon Jul 26 20:39:03 2010 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:39:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: New: John Peel Around the World (Oct 2005) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <263293.79375.qm@...> Here's the second of the rips I promised. The tracklisting for the show can be found in the archives of the Radio One website. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/oneworld/tracklistingarchive.shtml?20051010 Note th Dr M. From unity.gain@... Mon Jul 26 21:52:08 2010 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:52:08 +0100 Subject: [peel] New: John Peel Around the World (October 2005) In-Reply-To: <604475.10745.qm@...> Message-ID: Many thanks for that. I was just searching my Mac for Œsonar¹, because I¹m sure I have that Schneider TM recording somewhere, when I found a rather poignant email in my Œdrafts¹ folder, dated July 2004. In it, I was bemoaning the fact that I¹d been trying to get to Sonar for years, but a lengthy illness had got in the way. However, believing recovery was in sight, I was looking forward to raising a glass of red to John in Barcelona the following year. Sniff! Anyway, I think I have a couple of John¹s One World Sonar shows somewhere on DAT ­ I¹ll see if I can dig them out and share, Cheers Roger On 26/07/2010 19:50, "Dr Mango" wrote: > > > > > > Oops, something happened mid-typing earlier and the work in progress email was > sent to the group. Take 2: > > As promised earlier, here's the second rip from my collection. > This was a 2 hour documentary broadcast on Radio 1 in the early hours of > Monday 10 October 2005 in the One World slot, celebrating some of the shows > Peel made from around the world - some of which have been shared here by Ken > Garner in original broadcast form. > > The tracklisting can be found in the archives of the Radio One website: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/oneworld/tracklistingarchive.shtml?20051010 > > Note that this is incomplete, as - for example - it omits Schneider TM's "The > Light 3000" from the Sonar Festival, broadcast 18 June 2003. > > There are a couple of small edits for tape flips, but I managed to do these > mid-song so as not to lose any Peel links. > > Download > John Peel Around the World.mp3 (1:57:58) 162 MB (192 kbps) > http://www.mediafire.com/?ncro3sx1zbcsyxp > > Dr M. > > > > > > From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 00:37:11 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:37:11 +0100 Subject: Misc Peel stuff 1 Message-ID: Nicked from another site. Further details of most downloads are available on request. I'm assuming that most of this stuff is already available on here. Sessions by: 70 Gwen Party Nightblooms Would Be's Klezmatics Dr Devious http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WIGPTQDY Viv Stanshall - Christmas At Rawlinson's End http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FXBKYC2A Boomtown Rats - Peel Sessions 1977 - 1978 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X2AM5ETM Sessions by: Blackheart Procession Yo La Tengo Ween http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BI05G0QZ Sessions by: Ride Sonic Youth - Fall covers Blackheart Procession & Peel 'Sampler' 01 Claire - Who Haunted Mrs. Robbins 02 Treebound Story - My Life's Example 03 The Balcony - The Lizard Hunt 04 3D A Fish In Sea - Alone 05 Little Red Duffelcoats - Sky The Pitch 06 Building 44 - Mr. Opium 07 Gore - Acts Of Revenge 08 Oil Seed Rape - Keelhaul 09 Skyscraper - Choke http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YAVS4LXO From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 00:44:14 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:44:14 +0100 Subject: Misc Peel stuff 3 Message-ID: More nicked stuff: In 1987, John Peel and John Walters had six one hour discussions about music from the time of Peel's childhood until the early eighties. This Radio 1 Series is here and all six episdes are in the one link. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F72HQ54J Marc Bolan - Complete BBC Recordings http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QU5TTKO2 Van Der Draf Generator Tracks 1 and 2 are from Sound Of The Seventies on 10 June 1971 Tracks 3 and 4 are a Peel Session from 3 July 1975 Tracks 5 and 6 are a Peel Session from 1 April 1976 Tracks 7 and 8 are a Peel Session from 11 November 1976. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55ETZMT7 Top Of The Pops - The True Story (Video) Another great 59 minute documentary, this time from the BBC. Broadcast in January 2008, it has interesting mix of fact and humour. The djs come out of it well, particularly Peel, Kid Jensen and Janice Long. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BRDJK70X The Smiths - Reeling Around The Fountain This is a more unusual coolection, gathering quite a few rarities, extras from the 1983 Troy Tate Sessions and rarer Radio and TV stuff. Nice 2cd set of 42 songs. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FN5RBP67 John Cooper Clarke John Peel Session 6 November 1978 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK8FOW8Q From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Jul 27 02:32:42 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:32:42 -0000 Subject: Let Me Try Again Message-ID: One more go... 1) Show date: 25 April 1992 Sessions: Bivouac, Ragga Twins Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/25_April_1992 2) Show date: 17 November 1995 Sessions: Panasonic, Flaming Stars Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_November_1995 Both shows incomplete, but high quality. Thanks to Colin and Isector. Best wishes Steve [TK] From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 00:41:22 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:41:22 +0100 Subject: Misc Peel stuff 2 Message-ID: The supplier of the sessions in part 1 apparently has sessions by the following Oil Seed rape Skyscraper Come Erci's Trip Clouds Th' Faith Healers Ride Hole The Would Be's The Nightblooms Bang Bang Machine L7 The Cherryblades Sonic Youth play The Fall Bivouc P J Harvey Dr. Devious The Kelzmatics Dr. Phibes & the House Of Wax Equations Simba Wanyika Ween The Pushkins Ash Treebound Story The Balcony 3D A Fish In Sea The Servants Little Red Dufflecoats Building 44 Her's Johnny Scala Timpani Big In Japan Clair Pigbros Workforce Janitors Gore 70 Gwen Party Premi Godspeed You Black Emporer Yo La Tengo Future Sound Of London Low Aerial M Blackheart Procession The Orb Nought Ui Nebula Topper Monket Steals The Drum Pavement Belle & Sebastain Karamasov Billy Mahonie All Mogwai Sessions in one file From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Jul 27 02:36:16 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:36:16 -0000 Subject: Misc Peel stuff 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great stuff Alan! Errr...was there a misc Peel stuff 2? or are they playing tricks on you too? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > More nicked stuff: > > In 1987, John Peel and John Walters had six one hour discussions about > music from the time of Peel's childhood until the early eighties. > This Radio 1 Series is here and all six episdes are in the one link. > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F72HQ54J > > > Marc Bolan - Complete BBC Recordings > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QU5TTKO2 > > > Van Der Draf Generator > Tracks 1 and 2 are from Sound Of The Seventies on 10 June 1971 > Tracks 3 and 4 are a Peel Session from 3 July 1975 > Tracks 5 and 6 are a Peel Session from 1 April 1976 > Tracks 7 and 8 are a Peel Session from 11 November 1976. > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55ETZMT7 > > > Top Of The Pops - The True Story (Video) > Another great 59 minute documentary, this time from the BBC. > Broadcast in January 2008, it has interesting mix of fact and humour. > The djs come out of it well, particularly Peel, Kid Jensen and Janice Long. > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BRDJK70X > > The Smiths - Reeling Around The Fountain > This is a more unusual coolection, gathering quite a few rarities, > extras from the 1983 Troy Tate Sessions and rarer Radio and TV stuff. > Nice 2cd set of 42 songs. > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FN5RBP67 > > > John Cooper Clarke > John Peel Session 6 November 1978 > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK8FOW8Q > From lorcan58@... Sun Jul 25 23:56:12 2010 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:56:12 -0000 Subject: Peelers - dipping my toes into file sharing... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Mark, I really enjoyed those clips. Happier times for everyone involved... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "mr_maudlin" wrote: > > > Hi All, > > This is the first time I've tried to upload something to Mediafire and share it. I don't really know what I'm doing so forgive me if the link doesn't work. The file (should the link work) is about 26 mins in length and 35mb and contains what I used to call "Peelers", basically Peel's amusing comments and asides, together with extended bits of DJ chat with Andy Kershaw. They date from the time his and Andy's shows followed each other (late 1980's early 90's at a guess). I used to make compilations from the shows I recorded and would fill up the end bits of the tape with these snippets. Contains details of the legendary visit to see Simon bates in panto. No, really. Happy times... > > > http://www.mediafire.com/?mz5mjimjmta > > Mark > From gustard33@... Tue Jul 27 07:57:53 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:57:53 -0000 Subject: Hello - Tuesday 3rd August 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hmmm - do you think it would be monstrously egotistical if I uploaded that onto my myspace music site ? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > You are very welcome Gus - a bit more than a passing mention wasn't it! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > thanks a lot Andrew - that really made my day ! > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > > > Check your emails Gus! > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > > > > > > > wait half an hour and try again! > > > > k > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aaaaahhhhh !!!! So tantalisingly close - it says the download limit is reached !! Could you upload it again ? > > > > > cheers, > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@...m, "Andrew" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello - it was Wednesday 5th August 1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you'll enjoy this Gus! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/408444077/19990804_Gus.mp3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "gus" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I once had a track played on John Peel but to this day have no idea which one or what he said about it. Does anyone have an archive of this show ? : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE JOHN PEEL SHOW Tuesday 3 August 1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mutant Mirrors > > > > > > > Track 2 > > > > > > > CD (Si): Track 2 > > > > > > > INFINITE VOID RECORD==001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/31.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 25 13:36:52 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:36:52 -0000 Subject: BFBS: Behemoth In-Reply-To: <0CA9F91264414F9783253028D4A4EBD7@Stuartnew> Message-ID: That's right, Stuart, I added it after seeing Alan's message, and even replied here, but my post has gone missing, so: If the link says just 'Mooo Server', it's a direct link, click and it goes there. If it says something like 'Mooo Server (steve/1998)', that means I was not able to add a direct link, and the hyperlink is internal. You need to find the Mooo Server yourself with the help of the information on that page, and browse down. I suggest bookmarking the server (you still have to log in each time, though). This subterfuge is unfortunately necessary because the Wiki will not allow a direct link to the Mooo itself. Confused? You will be on next week's edition of 'Soap'. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > I just clicked on the link on the wiki page and it took me straight to a > link to the file. > > > > Stuart > > > > _____ > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan > Ford > Sent: 25 July 2010 08:50 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] BFBS: Behemoth > > > > > > Is it just me? I can't see this show on that Mooo page. > > Alan > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:20 AM, So It Goes 2512 yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Fellow Peelites > > Another one from Carsten's magnificent collection: many thanks to him. > > Show date: 08 January 1998 > Wiki: http://peel. > wikia.com/wiki/08_January_1998_%28BFBS%29 > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Jul 26 18:56:31 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:56:31 -0000 Subject: Double Helping Message-ID: Fellow Peelites It's been a fantastic summer for Peel shows and it looks like there's no sign of it stopping. Two shows for you today from the baking Orient. Firstly, I put this up on Saturday, but the message never got to the group (although keen Wiki watchers will probably already have this). Show date: 17 November 1995 Sessions: Panasonic, Flaming Stars Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_November_1995 Not a full show, but with the high quality we have come to expect from Colin and his 500 Box. Many thanks buddy! Secondly, the first from what promises to be a huge batch of shows from the 90s right up to the end. Show date: 25 April 1992 Sessions: Bivouac, Ragga Twins Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/25_April_1992 Again, not the full show, but near as dammit, and in marvellous quality too, from a tuner connected via cable TV, so I am told. Many thanks to the taper for both upload and track listing. Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Jul 25 15:36:06 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:36:06 -0000 Subject: BFBS Messages Message-ID: I have sent two responses to Alan's query over the BFBS show I posted earlier today and neither has appeared, so here's a new topic, see if that works. As Sturt has discovered, I posted a direct link to the file (via the 30242 site), which is not always possible, and in that case I leave a redirect to the Mooo Server page on the Wiki with a list of available files (which I'm working on) and directions to finding the server. This nonsense is necessary because the Wiki will not accept a link to the mooo. Hope this helps, and I'm glad people are interested in this high-quality collection. Carsten's collection runs into treble figures,so there's a lot lot more to come. Best wishes Steve [TK] From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 11:42:02 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:42:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Misc Peel stuff 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What the f***in' hell is going on !?!?!?! Yes, there was a part 2 and, surprisingly, a part 1. I haven't received either back to me. Did you get part 1? On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:36 AM, So It Goes 2512 < so_it_goes_2512@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Great stuff Alan! Errr...was there a misc Peel stuff 2? or are they playing > tricks on you too? > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford > wrote: > > > > More nicked stuff: > > > > In 1987, John Peel and John Walters had six one hour discussions about > > music from the time of Peel's childhood until the early eighties. > > This Radio 1 Series is here and all six episdes are in the one link. > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F72HQ54J > > > > > > Marc Bolan - Complete BBC Recordings > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QU5TTKO2 > > > > > > Van Der Draf Generator > > Tracks 1 and 2 are from Sound Of The Seventies on 10 June 1971 > > Tracks 3 and 4 are a Peel Session from 3 July 1975 > > Tracks 5 and 6 are a Peel Session from 1 April 1976 > > Tracks 7 and 8 are a Peel Session from 11 November 1976. > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55ETZMT7 > > > > > > Top Of The Pops - The True Story (Video) > > Another great 59 minute documentary, this time from the BBC. > > Broadcast in January 2008, it has interesting mix of fact and humour. > > The djs come out of it well, particularly Peel, Kid Jensen and Janice > Long. > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BRDJK70X > > > > The Smiths - Reeling Around The Fountain > > This is a more unusual coolection, gathering quite a few rarities, > > extras from the 1983 Troy Tate Sessions and rarer Radio and TV stuff. > > Nice 2cd set of 42 songs. > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FN5RBP67 > > > > > > John Cooper Clarke > > John Peel Session 6 November 1978 > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK8FOW8Q > > > > > From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 11:44:12 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:44:12 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll try again ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alan Ford Date: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:41 PM Subject: Misc Peel stuff 2 To: peel@yahoogroups.com The supplier of the sessions in part 1 apparently has sessions by the following Oil Seed rape Skyscraper Come Erci's Trip Clouds Th' Faith Healers Ride Hole The Would Be's The Nightblooms Bang Bang Machine L7 The Cherryblades Sonic Youth play The Fall Bivouc P J Harvey Dr. Devious The Kelzmatics Dr. Phibes & the House Of Wax Equations Simba Wanyika Ween The Pushkins Ash Treebound Story The Balcony 3D A Fish In Sea The Servants Little Red Dufflecoats Building 44 Her's Johnny Scala Timpani Big In Japan Clair Pigbros Workforce Janitors Gore 70 Gwen Party Premi Godspeed You Black Emporer Yo La Tengo Future Sound Of London Low Aerial M Blackheart Procession The Orb Nought Ui Nebula Topper Monket Steals The Drum Pavement Belle & Sebastain Karamasov Billy Mahonie All Mogwai Sessions in one file From M.Luetchford@... Tue Jul 27 12:15:18 2010 From: M.Luetchford@... (MARK LUETCHFORD) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:15:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] World Music In-Reply-To: <2kni46pvtcainq456dfltdptuug002uh8t@...> References: <2kni46pvtcainq456dfltdptuug002uh8t@...> Message-ID: <493381.77165.qm@...> Just back from Womad - John Peel credited with popularising world music amiongst the late 70's/80s audiences in the programme notes about Kanda Bongo Man. Rolf Harris claimed similar on stage with Sun A Rise being first world music chart entry in 1962! Obviously Andy kershaw developed the range and scope of all our tastes .. Had a storming time - Horace Andy skylarked and Sierra Leone Refugee All Stars doing Slavery Days by Burning Spear. Toumast. Rango. Stonoway. Kanda Bongo Man. Imelda May. A bavarian band with oompah! Inuit throat music. A group from Tajikstan - the list goes on and on. If you haven't been you shoudl consider it especially if you have young kids/grandkids.  Without John Peel and Andy Kershaw (sorry - Rolf although I really did enjoy seeing him - but a shame he didn't do the Court of King Caractacus) I and my children would not have been there - and I suspect the same goes for many. Respect and thanks - I will search this database for all its joy., Mark   ________________________________ From: Paul Webster To: peel@...m; andy_kershaw@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 23 July, 2010 10:21:58 Subject: Re: [peel] World Music   On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:56:19 +0100, you wrote: >http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a248464/bbc-radio-3-opens-up-world-music-archive.html > The BBC address (not in the article) is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/worldmusic/ Paul From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 14:15:18 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:15:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Misc Peel stuff 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried re-sending part 2, but it still hasn't appeared. Parts 1 and 2 are on the website though: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/messages Alan On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Alan Ford wrote: > What the f***in' hell is going on !?!?!?! > > Yes, there was a part 2 and, surprisingly, a part 1. I haven't received > either back to me. Did you get part 1? > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:36 AM, So It Goes 2512 < > so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: > >> >> >> Great stuff Alan! Errr...was there a misc Peel stuff 2? or are they >> playing tricks on you too? >> >> >> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford >> wrote: >> > >> > More nicked stuff: >> > >> > In 1987, John Peel and John Walters had six one hour discussions about >> > music from the time of Peel's childhood until the early eighties. >> > This Radio 1 Series is here and all six episdes are in the one link. >> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F72HQ54J >> > >> > >> > Marc Bolan - Complete BBC Recordings >> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QU5TTKO2 >> > >> > >> > Van Der Draf Generator >> > Tracks 1 and 2 are from Sound Of The Seventies on 10 June 1971 >> > Tracks 3 and 4 are a Peel Session from 3 July 1975 >> > Tracks 5 and 6 are a Peel Session from 1 April 1976 >> > Tracks 7 and 8 are a Peel Session from 11 November 1976. >> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55ETZMT7 >> > >> > >> > Top Of The Pops - The True Story (Video) >> > Another great 59 minute documentary, this time from the BBC. >> > Broadcast in January 2008, it has interesting mix of fact and humour. >> > The djs come out of it well, particularly Peel, Kid Jensen and Janice >> Long. >> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BRDJK70X >> > >> > The Smiths - Reeling Around The Fountain >> > This is a more unusual coolection, gathering quite a few rarities, >> > extras from the 1983 Troy Tate Sessions and rarer Radio and TV stuff. >> > Nice 2cd set of 42 songs. >> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FN5RBP67 >> > >> > >> > John Cooper Clarke >> > John Peel Session 6 November 1978 >> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK8FOW8Q >> > >> >> >> > > From robfleay@... Tue Jul 27 14:47:17 2010 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:47:17 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Misc Peel stuff 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recieved part 2 (twice) On 27 July 2010 13:15, Alan Ford wrote: > > > I tried re-sending part 2, but it still hasn't appeared. > Parts 1 and 2 are on the website though: > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/messages > > Alan > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Alan Ford wrote: > >> What the f***in' hell is going on !?!?!?! >> >> Yes, there was a part 2 and, surprisingly, a part 1. I haven't received >> either back to me. Did you get part 1? >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:36 AM, So It Goes 2512 < >> so_it_goes_2512@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Great stuff Alan! Errr...was there a misc Peel stuff 2? or are they >>> playing tricks on you too? >>> >>> >>> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > More nicked stuff: >>> > >>> > In 1987, John Peel and John Walters had six one hour discussions about >>> > music from the time of Peel's childhood until the early eighties. >>> > This Radio 1 Series is here and all six episdes are in the one link. >>> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F72HQ54J >>> > >>> > >>> > Marc Bolan - Complete BBC Recordings >>> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QU5TTKO2 >>> > >>> > >>> > Van Der Draf Generator >>> > Tracks 1 and 2 are from Sound Of The Seventies on 10 June 1971 >>> > Tracks 3 and 4 are a Peel Session from 3 July 1975 >>> > Tracks 5 and 6 are a Peel Session from 1 April 1976 >>> > Tracks 7 and 8 are a Peel Session from 11 November 1976. >>> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55ETZMT7 >>> > >>> > >>> > Top Of The Pops - The True Story (Video) >>> > Another great 59 minute documentary, this time from the BBC. >>> > Broadcast in January 2008, it has interesting mix of fact and humour. >>> > The djs come out of it well, particularly Peel, Kid Jensen and Janice >>> Long. >>> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BRDJK70X >>> > >>> > The Smiths - Reeling Around The Fountain >>> > This is a more unusual coolection, gathering quite a few rarities, >>> > extras from the 1983 Troy Tate Sessions and rarer Radio and TV stuff. >>> > Nice 2cd set of 42 songs. >>> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FN5RBP67 >>> > >>> > >>> > John Cooper Clarke >>> > John Peel Session 6 November 1978 >>> > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK8FOW8Q >>> > >>> >>> >> > > > > From stuartb@... Tue Jul 27 14:52:26 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:52:26 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Misc Peel stuff 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90268257109F44DF980DA0CC3846F2DD@Stuartnew> I could see the message for part 2 twice but no actual links _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RobF Sent: 27 July 2010 13:47 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Misc Peel stuff 3 I recieved part 2 (twice) On 27 July 2010 13:15, Alan Ford com> wrote: I tried re-sending part 2, but it still hasn't appeared. Parts 1 and 2 are on the website though: http://launch. groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/messages Alan On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Alan Ford com> wrote: What the f***in' hell is going on !?!?!?! Yes, there was a part 2 and, surprisingly, a part 1. I haven't received either back to me. Did you get part 1? On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:36 AM, So It Goes 2512 yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Great stuff Alan! Errr...was there a misc Peel stuff 2? or are they playing tricks on you too? --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Alan Ford wrote: > > More nicked stuff: > > In 1987, John Peel and John Walters had six one hour discussions about > music from the time of Peel's childhood until the early eighties. > This Radio 1 Series is here and all six episdes are in the one link. > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=F72HQ54J > > > Marc Bolan - Complete BBC Recordings > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=QU5TTKO2 > > > Van Der Draf Generator > Tracks 1 and 2 are from Sound Of The Seventies on 10 June 1971 > Tracks 3 and 4 are a Peel Session from 3 July 1975 > Tracks 5 and 6 are a Peel Session from 1 April 1976 > Tracks 7 and 8 are a Peel Session from 11 November 1976. > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=55ETZMT7 > > > Top Of The Pops - The True Story (Video) > Another great 59 minute documentary, this time from the BBC. > Broadcast in January 2008, it has interesting mix of fact and humour. > The djs come out of it well, particularly Peel, Kid Jensen and Janice Long. > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=BRDJK70X > > The Smiths - Reeling Around The Fountain > This is a more unusual coolection, gathering quite a few rarities, > extras from the 1983 Troy Tate Sessions and rarer Radio and TV stuff. > Nice 2cd set of 42 songs. > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=FN5RBP67 > > > John Cooper Clarke > John Peel Session 6 November 1978 > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d=QK8FOW8Q > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Jul 27 18:10:01 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:10:01 -0000 Subject: 1999: Doctorin' The House Message-ID: Fellow Peelites And (hopefully) on this day eleven years ago... Show date: 27 July 1999 Session: Man Or Astroman #5 Peelenium: 1931 Given Yahoo's recent abominations in the messaging field (one of my messages took two days to find its way here...maybe they've been taken over by the Royal Mail), may I wish you all a merry Christmas. For 2015. Best wishes Steve [TK] From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Jul 27 18:21:33 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:21:33 -0000 Subject: 1999: Doctorin' The House In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Errr...maybe you'd like a link to go with that. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/27_July_1999 While we're on the subject, here's a reply I received after complaining to Yahoo about our recent problems. "Hello Steve, Thank you for contacting Yahoo! Groups. I understand you are experiencing an issue with your posted messages not appearing in your Yahoo! group "akilcagi_1919", and you are receiving a "failure notice" when posting messages. (Only one, actually. As I told them.-S) I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused, and can provide you with an update on the status of your issue. Currently, our Product Team has identified the cause of the issue and is working to resolve it. Unfortunately, we cannot give you an estimate as to when it will be resolved at this time. Please know that they are working to get it resolved and any undelivered messages will be delivered." And the message ends with the cheery reminder: "New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - better than ever!" As David Baddiel used to say, "Jimmy Hill." --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > And (hopefully) on this day eleven years ago... > > Show date: 27 July 1999 > Session: Man Or Astroman #5 > Peelenium: 1931 > > Given Yahoo's recent abominations in the messaging field (one of my messages took two days to find its way here...maybe they've been taken over by the Royal Mail), may I wish you all a merry Christmas. > For 2015. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From nigelw@... Tue Jul 27 19:42:00 2010 From: nigelw@... (Nigel Wassell) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:42:00 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 Message-ID: Alan et al. Since there seems to be some doubt about the fact, may I report that Part 1 arrived here in sunny South Wales (no, not really!) at 00:02 this morning, Part 3 at 00:10 and Part 2, presumably after enjoying a holiday in South America, or somewhere equally exotic, at 02:27. Nigel From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 20:36:13 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:36:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Nigel. Previously, when I posted a new message to a yahoo group, I would get the message back from the group. That doesn't seem to happen any more Why the middle message took so much longer than the other two, I can't imagine. Alan On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Nigel Wassell < nigelw@notheolgwili.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > > > Alan *et al.* > > Since there seems to be some doubt about the fact, may I report that Part 1 > arrived here in sunny South Wales (no, not really!) at 00:02 this morning, > Part 3 at 00:10 and Part 2, presumably after enjoying a holiday in South > America, or somewhere equally exotic, at 02:27. > > Nigel > > > > From viynljohn@... Tue Jul 27 20:59:34 2010 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:59:34 -0000 Subject: File conversion Message-ID: Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? From nigelw@... Tue Jul 27 21:36:39 2010 From: nigelw@... (Nigel Wassell) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:36:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 Message-ID: <1847EBDB74F8481282B71CD7EF6D0E23@NIGELPC2> Well, I don't know, but my message to the group came back quite promptly - almost instantaneously, in fact! Nigel From parkermike81@... Tue Jul 27 21:43:05 2010 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:43:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] File conversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <459752.50093.qm@...> 7 zip 4.57 free download works fine for me, regards mp. wrote: From: viynljohn Subject: [peel] File conversion To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 18:59   Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? From ford.alan@... Tue Jul 27 22:23:30 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:23:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: <1847EBDB74F8481282B71CD7EF6D0E23@NIGELPC2> References: <1847EBDB74F8481282B71CD7EF6D0E23@NIGELPC2> Message-ID: Obviously it hates me for posting other people's downloads On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Nigel Wassell < nigelw@...> wrote: > > > Well, I don't know, but my message to the group came back quite promptly - > almost instantaneously, in fact! > > Nigel > > > > From evelynmaykerr@... Tue Jul 27 22:32:57 2010 From: evelynmaykerr@... (evelyn k) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:32:57 -0000 Subject: Steve Lage R.I.P. Message-ID: I have been informed that Steve Lage, the original bass player with the Savage Resurrection has just passed away. I gather that Steve was also a talented jazz pianist. The Savage Resurrection's Thing in E was played on the Peel Show including 9/7/2002 track listing. From stuartb@... Wed Jul 28 01:30:07 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:30:07 -0000 Subject: Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hmmm. Still didn't get an email with any links and I can't even see any links anywhere in this thread. Or were there never actually any links in part 2? If there were, would someone mind awfully giving the message number, as I'm beginning to think it's just me! Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > Obviously it hates me for posting other people's downloads > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Nigel Wassell < > nigelw@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, I don't know, but my message to the group came back quite promptly - > > almost instantaneously, in fact! > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 28 02:37:38 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:37:38 -0000 Subject: File conversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi John The simple answer is that you can't. Rar is a file compression utility, and you need, as Mike said, something to unzip the mp3 files therein so that you can play them. I agree that 7Zip is excellent, and free, too. One thing it does that I haven't seen anywhere else is that if you unzip passworded multiple files at the same time, you only need enter the code once. Anyway.... http://download.cnet.com/7-Zip/3000-2250_4-10045185.html Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "viynljohn" wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Jul 28 05:19:47 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:19:47 -0000 Subject: 1999: in fond memory Message-ID: Fellow Peelites (and my mother, who is 76 today, although she'll never see this, because she is totally PC-less) On this day 11 years ago...Yahoo delivered a group email message from 1995. But seriously: Show date: 28 July 1999 Session: Flaming Lips #2 Peelenium: 1932 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/28_July_1999 Best wishes Steve [TK] From saipanda@... Wed Jul 28 06:19:25 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:19:25 -0000 Subject: 1999: in fond memory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks, Steve. Great to have the shows on the actual day. And also many thanks to everyone else sharing all the shows recently. All very much appreciated. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites (and my mother, who is 76 today, although she'll never see this, because she is totally PC-less) > > On this day 11 years ago...Yahoo delivered a group email message from 1995. But seriously: > > Show date: 28 July 1999 > Session: Flaming Lips #2 > Peelenium: 1932 > Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/28_July_1999 > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From robfleay@... Wed Jul 28 10:36:49 2010 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:36:49 +0100 Subject: [peel] File conversion In-Reply-To: <459752.50093.qm@...> References: <459752.50093.qm@...> Message-ID: you don't actually convert rar to mp3 rar is an archive file (or zip file to give it another common name ) of multiple files compressed into one larger compressed file for convenience lots of tools out there will uncompress rar files and reveal the mp3's hidden within! 7zip or WinRAR are two On 27 July 2010 20:43, Mike Parker wrote: > > > *7 zip 4.57 free download works fine for me, regards mp.< > viynljohn@...>* wrote: > > > From: viynljohn > Subject: [peel] File conversion > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 18:59 > > > > Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? > > > > > From viynljohn@... Wed Jul 28 12:03:24 2010 From: viynljohn@... (John Hatch) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] File conversion Message-ID: <113114.29565.qm@...> thanks RobF, shows how much I know about computers! On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:36 BST RobF wrote: >you don't actually convert rar to mp3 > >rar is an archive file (or zip file to give it another common name ) of >multiple files compressed into one larger compressed file for convenience > >lots of tools out there will uncompress rar files and reveal the mp3's >hidden within! >7zip or WinRAR are two > >On 27 July 2010 20:43, Mike Parker wrote: > >> >> >> *7 zip 4.57 free download works fine for me, regards mp.< >> viynljohn@...>* wrote: >> >> >> From: viynljohn >> Subject: [peel] File conversion >> To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 18:59 >> >> >> >> Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? >> >> >> >> >> From davidquantick@... Wed Jul 28 12:04:35 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] File conversion In-Reply-To: <113114.29565.qm@...> Message-ID: <760976.67063.qm@...> I seem to only like current pop and old new wave. So, since I know where to get Lady Gaga CDs (HMV) where might I find The Photos? PS This group is the best thing. From gustard33@... Wed Jul 28 12:32:27 2010 From: gustard33@... (gus) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:32:27 -0000 Subject: File conversion In-Reply-To: <113114.29565.qm@...> Message-ID: First you have to extract the rar file (right click - extract here) then IF the contents of the rar file is a music file such as .wav 0r .aiff or .ogg you can use a variety of programs to convert them to .mp3. But asking how to convert rar to mp3 is a bit like asking how you can transfer a cardboard box to tape - it depends on the context of the cardboard box. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, John Hatch wrote: > > thanks RobF, shows how much I know about computers! > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:36 BST RobF wrote: > > >you don't actually convert rar to mp3 > > > >rar is an archive file (or zip file to give it another common name ) of > >multiple files compressed into one larger compressed file for convenience > > > >lots of tools out there will uncompress rar files and reveal the mp3's > >hidden within! > >7zip or WinRAR are two > > > >On 27 July 2010 20:43, Mike Parker wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> *7 zip 4.57 free download works fine for me, regards mp.< > >> viynljohn@...>* wrote: > >> > >> > >> From: viynljohn > >> Subject: [peel] File conversion > >> To: peel@yahoogroups.com > >> Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 18:59 > >> > >> > >> > >> Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From viynljohn@... Wed Jul 28 12:46:52 2010 From: viynljohn@... (John Hatch) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] File conversion Message-ID: <550514.67343.qm@...> come to think of it, I have win zip on my PC so will have a dabble later... Thanks everyone On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:03 BST John Hatch wrote: >thanks RobF, shows how much I know about computers! > >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:36 BST RobF wrote: > >>you don't actually convert rar to mp3 >> >>rar is an archive file (or zip file to give it another common name ) of >>multiple files compressed into one larger compressed file for convenience >> >>lots of tools out there will uncompress rar files and reveal the mp3's >>hidden within! >>7zip or WinRAR are two >> >>On 27 July 2010 20:43, Mike Parker wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> *7 zip 4.57 free download works fine for me, regards mp.< >>> viynljohn@...>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: viynljohn >>> Subject: [peel] File conversion >>> To: peel@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 18:59 >>> >>> >>> >>> Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > From ford.alan@... Wed Jul 28 13:47:38 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:47:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for any confusion, but part 2 was just a list of sessions which the guy I'm nicking off says he has. I'm pretty sure they are already available here via our own resident session supplier whose name, I'm ashamed to say, I can't remember at the moment. Don't know if that's in any way linked to the fact that I became a Grandad 3 hours ago. Cheers Alan On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Stuart wrote: > > > Hmmm. Still didn't get an email with any links and I can't even see any > links anywhere in this thread. Or were there never actually any links in > part 2? If there were, would someone mind awfully giving the message number, > as I'm beginning to think it's just me! > > Stuart > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford > wrote: > > > > Obviously it hates me for posting other people's downloads > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Nigel Wassell < > > nigelw@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know, but my message to the group came back quite > promptly - > > > almost instantaneously, in fact! > > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From saipanda@... Wed Jul 28 20:22:27 2010 From: saipanda@... (steve) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:22:27 -0000 Subject: Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many congratulations, Alan! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Alan Ford wrote: > > Sorry for any confusion, but part 2 was just a list of sessions which the > guy I'm nicking off says he has. > I'm pretty sure they are already available here via our own resident session > supplier whose name, I'm ashamed to say, I can't remember at the moment. > Don't know if that's in any way linked to the fact that I became a Grandad 3 > hours ago. > > Cheers > > Alan > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > Hmmm. Still didn't get an email with any links and I can't even see any > > links anywhere in this thread. Or were there never actually any links in > > part 2? If there were, would someone mind awfully giving the message number, > > as I'm beginning to think it's just me! > > > > Stuart > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford > > wrote: > > > > > > Obviously it hates me for posting other people's downloads > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Nigel Wassell < > > > nigelw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know, but my message to the group came back quite > > promptly - > > > > almost instantaneously, in fact! > > > > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From viynljohn@... Wed Jul 28 20:42:17 2010 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:42:17 -0000 Subject: File conversion In-Reply-To: <550514.67343.qm@...> Message-ID: Downloaded the evaluation version of win rar so job done.. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, John Hatch wrote: > > come to think of it, I have win zip on my PC so will have a dabble later... Thanks everyone > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:03 BST John Hatch wrote: > > >thanks RobF, shows how much I know about computers! > > > >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:36 BST RobF wrote: > > > >>you don't actually convert rar to mp3 > >> > >>rar is an archive file (or zip file to give it another common name ) of > >>multiple files compressed into one larger compressed file for convenience > >> > >>lots of tools out there will uncompress rar files and reveal the mp3's > >>hidden within! > >>7zip or WinRAR are two > >> > >>On 27 July 2010 20:43, Mike Parker wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> *7 zip 4.57 free download works fine for me, regards mp.< > >>> viynljohn@...>* wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> From: viynljohn > >>> Subject: [peel] File conversion > >>> To: peel@yahoogroups.com > >>> Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 18:59 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > From festive50@... Wed Jul 28 22:51:32 2010 From: festive50@... (Philip Edwards) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:51:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: File conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unless of course John meant .ra or .rm (Real Audio) files. Phil On 28 July 2010 01:37, So It Goes 2512 wrote: > > > Hi John > > The simple answer is that you can't. Rar is a file compression utility, and > you need, as Mike said, something to unzip the mp3 files therein so that you > can play them. I agree that 7Zip is excellent, and free, too. One thing it > does that I haven't seen anywhere else is that if you unzip passworded > multiple files at the same time, you only need enter the code once. > Anyway.... > http://download.cnet.com/7-Zip/3000-2250_4-10045185.html > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "viynljohn" > wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? > > > > > From ford.alan@... Thu Jul 29 00:33:45 2010 From: ford.alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:33:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Fwd: Misc Peel stuff 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Steve, Went to visit the new grandson this evening; he's cute as a button. Makes me feel old, though. Alan On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:22 PM, steve wrote: > > > Many congratulations, Alan! > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Alan Ford > wrote: > > > > Sorry for any confusion, but part 2 was just a list of sessions which the > > guy I'm nicking off says he has. > > I'm pretty sure they are already available here via our own resident > session > > supplier whose name, I'm ashamed to say, I can't remember at the moment. > > Don't know if that's in any way linked to the fact that I became a > Grandad 3 > > hours ago. > > > > Cheers > > > > Alan > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. Still didn't get an email with any links and I can't even see any > > > links anywhere in this thread. Or were there never actually any links > in > > > part 2? If there were, would someone mind awfully giving the message > number, > > > as I'm beginning to think it's just me! > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>, Alan Ford > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Obviously it hates me for posting other people's downloads > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Nigel Wassell < > > > > nigelw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know, but my message to the group came back quite > > > promptly - > > > > > almost instantaneously, in fact! > > > > > > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Thu Jul 29 01:06:40 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:06:40 -0000 Subject: File conversion In-Reply-To: <760976.67063.qm@...> Message-ID: A track on this show http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_November_1979 There is a search box in the wiki. I take it you know about discogs http://www.discogs.com/artist/Photos%2C+The and there are even some for sale http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?artist=Photos%2C+The&ev=ab And on amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photos-CD/dp/B000VQQLNS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1280358294&sr=1-1 and on e-bay http://music.shop.ebay.co.uk/Records-/306/i.html?_nkw=The+Photos&_catref=1&_dmpt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282 Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > I seem to only like current pop and old new wave. > > So, since I know where to get Lady Gaga CDs (HMV) where might I find The Photos? > > PS This group is the best thing. > From stuartb@... Thu Jul 29 01:17:49 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:17:49 -0000 Subject: File conversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, and it is also available on Spotify --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote: > > A track on this show http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_November_1979 > > There is a search box in the wiki. > > I take it you know about discogs http://www.discogs.com/artist/Photos%2C+The > and there are even some for sale > http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?artist=Photos%2C+The&ev=ab > And on amazon > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photos-CD/dp/B000VQQLNS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1280358294&sr=1-1 > and on e-bay http://music.shop.ebay.co.uk/Records-/306/i.html?_nkw=The+Photos&_catref=1&_dmpt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282 > > Stuart > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, David Quantick wrote: > > > > I seem to only like current pop and old new wave. > > > > So, since I know where to get Lady Gaga CDs (HMV) where might I find The Photos? > > > > PS This group is the best thing. > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jul 29 07:09:00 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:09:00 -0000 Subject: Hit Me Two Times Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Two shows for you to enjoy today. The first comes from a fallow period, August 1991: in fact there is only one other show (that one is also partial) from this month. Nevertheless, great quality. Many thanks to Isector for the recording and tracklisting. Show date: 31 August 1991 Sessions: Farm, Ragga Twins Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/31_August_1991 Secondly, by contrast, July 1999 is now complete: many thanks to the taper and uploader for all of this. On this day 11 years ago... Show date: 29 July 1999 Session: Loudon Wainwright III Peelenium: 1933 Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_July_1999 Finally, Pad informed me that access to Megaupload in Homg Kong has stalled again, so for him and any others who may be experiencing similar problems, the download link for 27 July 1999 has been moved to Mediafire. Best wishes Steve [TK] From stuartb@... Thu Jul 29 08:52:40 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:40 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: File conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Phil Is your server still on the go? I never did get logged back in after the last IP change Stuart _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Edwards Sent: 28 July 2010 21:52 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: File conversion Unless of course John meant .ra or .rm (Real Audio) files. Phil On 28 July 2010 01:37, So It Goes 2512 yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi John The simple answer is that you can't. Rar is a file compression utility, and you need, as Mike said, something to unzip the mp3 files therein so that you can play them. I agree that 7Zip is excellent, and free, too. One thing it does that I haven't seen anywhere else is that if you unzip passworded multiple files at the same time, you only need enter the code once. Anyway.... http://download. cnet.com/7-Zip/3000-2250_4-10045185.html Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "viynljohn" wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how to convert .rar files to MP3? > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Jul 29 08:53:47 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:53:47 -0000 Subject: Hit Me Three Times Message-ID: ...and a little bonus for good behaviour. Show date: 04 October 1993 (O3-Nachtexpress) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/04_October_1993_%28%C3%963%29 Best wishes Steve [TK] From davidquantick@... Thu Jul 29 10:12:03 2010 From: davidquantick@... (David Quantick) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:12:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: File conversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <444794.22265.qm@...> Ta! From postscriptxyz@... Thu Jul 29 12:58:46 2010 From: postscriptxyz@... (postscriptxyz) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:58:46 -0000 Subject: Hit Me Two Times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Steve, much appreciated. Pad --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "So It Goes 2512" wrote: > > Finally, Pad informed me that access to Megaupload in Homg Kong has stalled again, so for him and any others who may be experiencing similar problems, the download link for 27 July 1999 has been moved to Mediafire. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From viynljohn@... Thu Jul 29 15:23:04 2010 From: viynljohn@... (John Hatch) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: File conversion Message-ID: <950138.30655.qm@...> you are most welcome... Once the file was open I was able to enjoy Viv Stanshalls Christmas at Rawlinson End, a most amusing tale to help me through another working day On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:12 BST David Quantick wrote: >Ta! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From stuartb@... Fri Jul 30 01:52:56 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:52:56 -0000 Subject: File conversion In-Reply-To: <950138.30655.qm@...> Message-ID: Er - I think he was thanking me for the Photos links :@? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, John Hatch wrote: > > you are most welcome... Once the file was open I was able to enjoy Viv Stanshalls Christmas at Rawlinson End, a most amusing tale to help me through another working day > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:12 BST David Quantick wrote: > > >Ta! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Jul 30 09:52:47 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:52:47 -0000 Subject: Thank God It's Friday Message-ID: Or maybe not, as this is now halfway through my summer break. Firstly, most of a show I've been waiting for with bated breath. Show date: 15 February 1992 Sessions: Bang Bang Machine, Fall Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/15_February_1992 Thanks to Isector again. Secondly, the build-up to the quarter-finals of the 1998 World Cup is tangible in another treasure from Carsten's archive. This was recorded before England crashed out on penalties, but transmitted after. Show date: 01 July 1998 (BFBS) Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/01_July_1998_%28BFBS%29 Best wishes Steve [TK] From makulaturverlag@... Fri Jul 30 10:47:39 2010 From: makulaturverlag@... (Hans-Georg Schaefer) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:47:39 +0200 Subject: Radio Eins Nr. 190 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I´m so thankfull for the doing of this group. so see this (and following) shows as my reply for all your kind work. thanks! hg http://www.mediafire.com/file/sovc86h3clcy8jc/John Peel (Nr. 190) 01/18/10.mp3 Am 26.07.2010 um 19:02 schrieb So It Goes 2512: > Vielen Dank für diese Datei, Hans-Georg! I'm really glad some more > of Peel's overseas shows are coming to light. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Hans-Georg Schaefer > wrote: > > > > > > John Peel (Nr. 155) 01/12/13.mp3 > > > > > neuer und alter scheiss: Hans -Georg Schaefer www.methegluediver.blogspot.com Roonstr. 57 www.myspace.com/hotellux 28203 Bremen www.flickr.com/photos/makulaturverlag 0421/7946898 From parkermike81@... Fri Jul 30 21:27:46 2010 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:27:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Radio Eins Nr. 190 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <418958.13407.qm@...> thanks hans and to steve/carlsten for making these overseas shows available. --- On Fri, 30/7/10, Hans-Georg Schaefer wrote: From: Hans-Georg Schaefer Subject: [peel] Radio Eins Nr. 190 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 30 July, 2010, 8:47   I´m so thankfull for the doing of this group. so see this (and following) shows as my reply for all your kind work. thanks! hg http://www.mediafir e.com/file/ sovc86h3clcy8jc/ John Peel (Nr. 190) 01/18/10.mp3 Am 26.07.2010 um 19:02 schrieb So It Goes 2512: Vielen Dank für diese Datei, Hans-Georg! I'm really glad some more of Peel's overseas shows are coming to light. --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Hans-Georg Schaefer wrote: > >  > John Peel (Nr. 155) 01/12/13.mp3 > neuer und alter scheiss:                                                                                                                                           Hans-Georg Schaefer www.methegluediver. blogspot. com                   Roonstr. 57 www.myspace. com/hotellux                                 28203 Bremen www.flickr.com/ photos/makulatur verlag            0421/7946898 From viynljohn@... Fri Jul 30 21:56:56 2010 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:56:56 -0000 Subject: Disco Clone Message-ID: One of my abiding memories of J P is of him playing 'Disco Clone' by Christina, does anyone know what year the great man played this song? From stemail1@... Fri Jul 30 22:42:23 2010 From: stemail1@... (steve lippert) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:42:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Disco Clone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <758734.63239.qm@...> I love Cristina's music, and much of the Ze sound. I'm guessing that would have been '78, possibly '79 when John played Disco Clone... ________________________________ From: viynljohn To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 30 July, 2010 20:56:56 Subject: [peel] Disco Clone One of my abiding memories of J P is of him playing 'Disco Clone' by Christina, does anyone know what year the great man played this song? From stuartb@... Sat Jul 31 01:37:07 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:37:07 -0000 Subject: Disco Clone In-Reply-To: <758734.63239.qm@...> Message-ID: Just a few months ago I walked into the record shop in Cockburn Street in Edinburgh and "Things Fall Apart" was playing. Was fantastic to be able to say I had the 12"..... Stuart --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, steve lippert wrote: > > I love Cristina's music, and much of the Ze sound. I'm guessing that would have > been '78, possibly '79 when John played Disco Clone... > > > > ________________________________ > From: viynljohn > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, 30 July, 2010 20:56:56 > Subject: [peel] Disco Clone > > > One of my abiding memories of J P is of him playing 'Disco Clone' by Christina, > does anyone know what year the great man played this song? > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Jul 31 01:47:12 2010 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (So It Goes 2512) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:47:12 -0000 Subject: Disco Clone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi John A quick search of the Wiki turned up a few hits for this future member of Kid Creole & The Coconuts. 08 November 1978 / 16 April 1979: plays of Disco Clone 24 December 1981: Things Fall Apart (Christmas single, with Disco Clone reissued on the B side). Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "viynljohn" wrote: > > One of my abiding memories of J P is of him playing 'Disco Clone' by Christina, does anyone know what year the great man played this song? > From troche@... Sat Jul 31 14:52:02 2010 From: troche@... (Tom & Cheryl Roche) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:52:02 -0400 Subject: Disco Clone / Another pending trove In-Reply-To: <1280570792.144.90999.m4@yahoogroups.com> References: <1280570792.144.90999.m4@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: "Things Fall Apart" is actually my favorite Christmas record, disturbing as that may sound. Well, after The Fall's "Hark The Herald Angels Sing" perhaps. Going forward, I think I have mentioned here that in the 90's I had a friend in London who would record Peel shows for me, and send the cassettes back to me in Atlanta... this was from maybe 91-99. She worked at the CNN office off Tottenham Ct Rd and was in charge of recording feeds anyway - exactly the dependable sort of person you'd want. (All the cassettes begin exactly 90 seconds before the show starts etc.) Anyway I dont know how many there are, at least 100, maybe 200. And then I've another 30-50 half hr shortwave shows. So looking down the road, when you (or ya'll as we say round here) get through the 400 box, you are welcome to the "Tom Roche Box," so to speak. I don't have time to rip them, so I'd be happy to Fed-Ex them over to Phil or Martin and let them distribute the task. Oh and these are mostly 100 min cassettes and not 90's, a bonus. Amazing to think that someday one can carry around 3 decades of John's shows on a little pocket drive.... OT: The film I spent the last 5 months editing in New Orleans, "The Big Uneasy" will show at The Big Chill Festival sometime next weekend, with Harry Shearer there to introduce it. It will show in London in September sometime, will advise. Google "The Big Uneasy" for more.... tom in atlanta On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:06 AM, peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Re: Disco Clone From unity.gain@... Sat Jul 31 18:56:14 2010 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:56:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Disco Clone / Another pending trove In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I¹m off to the Big Chill in 5 days time ­ anyone else? - so I¹ll put that on my Œto do¹ list. Harry Shearer, eh..? (said in the voice of Mr. Burns, of course!) And yes, as a member of the ripping ream, I¹d be delighted to get my hands on some of those tapes, Cheers Roger On 31/07/2010 13:52, "Tom & Cheryl Roche" wrote: > > > > OT: The film I spent the last 5 months editing in New Orleans, "The Big > Uneasy" will show at The Big Chill Festival sometime next weekend, with Harry > Shearer there to introduce it. It will show in London in September sometime, > will advise. Google "The Big Uneasy" for more.... > > tom in atlanta > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:06 AM, peel@yahoogroups.com > wrote: > >> > Re: Disco Clone > > From stuartb@... Sat Jul 31 20:57:15 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:57:15 -0000 Subject: New mixtape - Peel February 1986 Message-ID: Some fresh rare content from 1986. Rarer still for being in very good FM stereo. Most if not all the content is from two shows, and ends with a short continuous segment of the end of the show of the 26th Feb. http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_February_1986 Stuart From viynljohn@... Sat Jul 31 22:19:10 2010 From: viynljohn@... (viynljohn) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:19:10 -0000 Subject: Disco Clone In-Reply-To: <758734.63239.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks Steve (and everyone else who responded), I actually bought the 12" version and the follow-up from a local record shop in the early eighties for 50p each.. a real bargain, thats for sure --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, steve lippert wrote: > > I love Cristina's music, and much of the Ze sound. I'm guessing that would have > been '78, possibly '79 when John played Disco Clone... > > > > ________________________________ > From: viynljohn > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, 30 July, 2010 20:56:56 > Subject: [peel] Disco Clone > > > One of my abiding memories of J P is of him playing 'Disco Clone' by Christina, > does anyone know what year the great man played this song? > From stuartb@... Sat Jul 31 23:53:03 2010 From: stuartb@... (Stuart) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:53:03 -0000 Subject: Another 1986 mixtape - March Message-ID: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Peel_March_1986 Stuart