Date of Barclay James Harvest "In Concert" broadcast

[nigel_wassell]

Bill,

Wow! There is so much there that it'll take me an evening or two to sit down and digest it all, but for now please just accept my thanks for identifying (as a pure incidental) the date of the second half of the 1976 Top 50 rundown as Monday 3rd January.  I guessed it wasn't a Saturday (from Fluff's banter with Kid Jensen about the New Year shenanigans at the beginning and the facts that the producer was Malcolm Brown instead of Tony Wilson and that the news bulletins were half an hour out, meaning that the show must have run from 3.00pm to 6.00pm), but I'd plumped for Sunday 2nd.  I obviously must have listened to the show, because I have the full Top 25 rundown carefully inscribed in one of my notebooks, but I don't appear to have made any recordings from it. Incidentally, I downloaded it (and the incomplete New Year's Day show) from the 30242 website - not sure if that's you or somebody else, but if it is you many thanks for making it available.

16 July 1977 I appear to have missed, but I'd love to hear that show. My diary tells me that I was away on holiday for the three succeeding shows, 23rd and 30th July and (probably) 6th August, but I bet I listened to that one.

I'd love to do something with the tapes, but although they've been stored properly, they're suffering a bit from age, quite apart from the fact that they weren't of top quality to start with. I don't have any complete shows, though - as a schoolboy I simply couldn't have afforded the tape and it never occurred to me to tape complete (or even partial) shows, just the tracks that I liked.  I've been trawling through them in the last couple of weeks looking specifically for Saturday Show recordings.  The list isn't quite complete yet and it would be OT for this particular message board, but I'll send you a copy privately when I'm happy with it, if you like.

Kind regards,

Nigel

P.S. Do you happen to know, offhand, on which day over the New Year weekend in 1977 Annie Nightingale hosted that show which asked various Radio 1 DJs to pick their "top tips" for 1977?  Fluff chose Gordon Giltrap (represented by "Lucifer's Cage", from the Visionary LP), whilst Peel picked Racing Cars ("They Shoot Horses, Don't They?") - of great interest to me, because they're a Swansea band who've only just broken up, and that's where I live!

--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" <billfromnorthwales@...> wrote:
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> Hello Nigel,
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> Did you get the  AF shows from 16th July 1977, and the top 50 of 1976 Xmas shows (1st and 3rd Jan 77) I put up a while back? Special stuff
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> I know me and a few people here would love to have more 70's Fluff shows so we would be grateful if you could share any!
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> Hard for people this far removed to understand that Peel and Fluff played a lot of the same artists in those days, but they did!
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> BJH played on Peel right in the height of Punk does make me smile.
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> Whatever the "Best of BJH" LP was he also played it on 14 December 76.
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> That is noted in the book, Ken.
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> Peel did have a few live sections of about 30 mins in 1976 and 1977 and 2 of those I have (Wishbone Ash and Stranglers in 77)
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> Hey Ken, now I am looking on that page, I see that the Wishbone Ash live on Peel tape I so clearly had marked as Nov 76 (mistakenly), is in fact from broadcast stated in your book as 9th February 1977 recorded 16 Jan 1977. 
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> So you may need a correction to say that it is not a session but a concert excerpt. (maybe something similar happened with BJH?)
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> Those of you who downloaded 	
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> 1976-11-XX John Peel Radio 1 (Wishbone Ash 1976).mp3
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> should change the name to
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> 1977-02-09 John Peel Radio 1 (Wishbone Ash 1977).mp3
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> The show is available here, thanks to the great actions of someone who's name I can't find (Thank you, you rescued all my shows!)
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> http://www.peel.mooo.com/peelgroup/bill_fromnorthwales/
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> Nigel, thanks if you can share any of your AF shows!
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> Bill, in essay mode.
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> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "nigel_wassell" <nigelw@> wrote:
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> > A question, if I may, which I think Ken Garner might be able to answer.
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> > I'm presently trying to catalogue my 1970s' tape collection (no Peel, I'm afraid - 11 o'clock was a bit past my bedtime in those days, but a lot of "Fluff" Freeman Saturday Show recordings, some of which, of course, were repeats of isolated Peel session tracks (although I wasn't aware of that at the time and simply took them at face value as "Tony Wilson Recreations")). 
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> > I have Saturday Show recordings of two Barclay James Harvest tracks -"Crazy City" and "Poke Street Rag" which were apparently recorded at Hammersmith Odeon in 1976.  Now, one of the two official BJH websites has a list of BJH concert recordings and identifies this show as having been recorded on 19 October 1976 and "broadcast by John Peel" on 14 March 1977, but therein lies the rub, because according to the "Shows" listing in Ken's book, on that date John featured tracks from the "Best of" Barclay James Harvest LP. The show was only an hour long at that time and I wouldn't have thought he'd have had time for the live concert recording as well; also I have very good reason to believe that my recording of "Poke Street Rag" dates from either January or February 1977 and "Crazy City" from no later than 5 March 1977.  I can't imagine that Fluff (avowed BJH fan though he was) would have broadcast excerpts from this concert before its official first transmission - that never seems to have been the practice with the repeated session tracks - and so the question arises: is the quoted first broadcast date for the BJH show of 14 March 1977 correct?
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> > Confusion is worse compounded by the fact that Ken also has Peel featuring tracks from the "Best of" BJH LP in his show on 14 December 1976.  To my way of thinking, that date seems a much more likely one for the broadcast of the live concert - two months after recording, rather than March, a whole three months later again, and I can't help thinking that somewhere along the line 14 December and 14 March have got mixed up (probably by the BJH webmasters). Can you clarify from your records, Ken, and confirm the exact date that the BJH concert was broadcast?
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