From michstoecker@... Wed Apr 1 02:00:11 2009 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:00:11 +0000 Subject: OT - mystery new wave song from the late 80's. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey gang, thought I'd throw this incredibly vague puzzle to the group b/c the group never ceases to amaze me and I might get lucky. A friend of mine has a song that she really wants to figure out. Problem is, very few details, if any concrete ones at all. Here's the rundown - " Back somewhere between 87-89, there was a song they used to play on WLIR. I don't remember the name of the group. I can't remember most of the words. So you can see how I'm having trouble trying to figure out what the song really was. (I can hear the music in my head, but it's hard to hum so it comes out just sounding like one note if and when I try....) What I can tell you is that it was a song sung by a guy (or a band with a guy lead singer) about how his girlfriend loves her car more than him. And he sings for a while, and then there's this spoken bit where he says something like, "I think it's sick that you'll talk to your car... but you won't talk to me!" Or something." She added that the style of the song was "very New Wave," and the vocals were sung by "an English sounding guy." Anyone have any suggestions? From alan@... Wed Apr 1 22:04:33 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:04:33 -0000 Subject: OT - mystery new wave song from the late 80's. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Obviously not the classic "you only love me cos I work on your car" by Rev Buck Naked http://www.divshare.com/download/2670410-d89 Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, michael stoecker wrote: > > > Hey gang, thought I'd throw this incredibly vague puzzle to the group b/c the group never ceases to amaze me and I might get lucky. A friend of mine has a song that she really wants to figure out. Problem is, very few details, if any concrete ones at all. Here's the rundown - > > " Back somewhere between 87-89, there was a song they used to play on > WLIR. I don't remember the name of the group. I can't remember most of > the words. So you can see how I'm having trouble trying to figure out > what the song really was. (I can hear the music in my head, but it's > hard to hum so it comes out just sounding like one note if and when I > try....) What I can tell you is that it was a song sung by a guy (or a > band with a guy lead singer) about how his girlfriend loves her car > more than him. And he sings for a while, and then there's this spoken > bit where he says something like, "I think it's sick that you'll talk > to your car... but you won't talk to me!" Or something." > > She added that the style of the song was "very New Wave," and the vocals were sung by "an English sounding guy." > > > Anyone have any suggestions? > From mickthepom@... Thu Apr 2 12:15:51 2009 From: mickthepom@... (mickthepom2) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:15:51 -0000 Subject: An evening with JP Message-ID: In about 1978, I went to Leicester Poly to listen to John Peel be DJ. I asked him for his autograph (come on, I was only 16) and he wrote in my pocket book "John Peel is fat and getting fatter. John Peel." I still have it. He told us all off for not supporting live music and that we should be at the Uni to watch Generation X. I think in retrospect I am glad that I didn't go and see Billy Idol - what a wanker he turned out to be. Despite having played reggae, ska and punk all night, he finished off by playing Freebird for the two hippies who'd been brave enough to stick around. Cheers John, you still make me smile From ken_garner@... Fri Apr 3 00:51:36 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:51:36 -0000 Subject: Peel in Manchester #3 Message-ID: Here, I think, is the very last of my complete shows, the third night in March 96 - Wednesday 20th - that Peel sat in for Mark Radcliffe from 10pm-midnight. And this is a jolly one, with Lard and Mark Lamarr in the studio, and a good live session from Calvin Party. Has turned out a good recording too. Enjoy. There is no more where this comes from. I did not tape the Thursday because there was no session guest, and I did not tape the second and third weeks later that year when Peel sat in again. Sorry about that. k Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20a http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P3I4HQNM Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20b http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0XJOTJY9 Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20c http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YA81LWV1 Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20d http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I5SQ5RQM From domesticempire@... Fri Apr 3 00:55:52 2009 From: domesticempire@... (Domestic Empire) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:55:52 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel presents ... You'll Never Be Sixteen Again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Complete series uploaded here: http://johnpeeldotnet.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/youll-never-be-sixteen-again/ gary On 07/03/2009, saipanda wrote: > Would be great if someone can make mp3s of these. I'm really badly set up > for recording from online streams, which is my only choice (as I'm not in > the UK). > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Webster" wrote: >> >> It is next week - not this week >> i.e. starts at midnight on 10th (Monday night/Tuesday morning) >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of >> > ROGER CARRUTHERS >> > Sent: 04 March 2009 13:05 >> > To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: Re: [peel] Peel presents ... You'll Never Be Sixteen Again >> > >> > >> > According to our off-air recording system, this is part 2 of 8, >> > though part 1 doesn't appear to be on iPlayer. Was part 1 on last >> > night, or is our scheduler lying...? >> > cheers >> > roger >> > >> > >> > --- On Wed, 4/3/09, Paul Webster wrote: >> > >> > > From: Paul Webster >> > > Subject: [peel] Peel presents ... You'll Never Be Sixteen Again >> > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> > > Date: Wednesday, 4 March, 2009, 8:28 AM >> > > 6 Music Plays it Again - You'll Never Be Sixteen Again. >> > > First broadcast in >> > > 1985 >> > > There was a book as well ... which you can still find >> > > >> > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0563205334?ie=UTF8&tag=dradio-2 >> > 1&linkCode >> > > =as2&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=0563205334 >> > > or easy version for email ... >> > > http://tinyurl.com/bn66e6 >> > > >> > > (that link is personalised for Dandelion Radio ... so if >> > > you buy it then we >> > > might get a few pence depending on whether or not the >> > > seller is doing silly >> > > things with the prices ... like selling the product for 1p >> > > and making their >> > > money on shipping charges) >> > > If you want to find it by other routes then look for ISBN >> > > 0563205334 >> > > >> > > >> > > BBC 6 Music On Tuesday 10th March 2009 00:00 to 00:30 >> > > You'll Never Be Sixteen Again. Part 1 of 8. Ain't >> > > Misbehavin' >> > > The acclaimed series telling the story of the British >> > > teenager through >> > > music, archive recordings and reminiscences, presented by >> > > John Peel. This >> > > episode deals with austerity, Teddy Boys, fashion, National >> > > Service, the >> > > jive, Elvis Presley, the arrival of rock 'n' roll >> > > and attitudes towards sex. >> > > (Part 1) >> > > >> > > >> > > BBC 6 Music On Wednesday 11th March 2009 00:00 to 00:30 >> > > You'll Never Be Sixteen Again. Part 2 of 8. Ain't >> > > Misbehavin' >> > > The acclaimed series continues with an exploration of >> > > austerity, Teddy Boys, >> > > fashion, National Service, the jive, Elvis Presley, the >> > > arrival of rock 'n' >> > > roll and attitudes towards sex. >> > > (Part 2) >> > > >> > > >> > > BBC 6 Music On Thursday 12th March 2009 00:00 to 00:30 >> > > You'll Never Be Sixteen Again. Part 3 of 8. Puttin' >> > > on the Style >> > > The acclaimed series continues with the era of skiffle and >> > > trad jazz, >> > > beatniks, beehive hairdos, coffee bars, the Aldermaston >> > > march and the twist. >> > > (Part 1) >> > > >> > > >> > > BBC 6 Music On Friday 13th March 2009 00:00 to 00:30 >> > > You'll Never Be Sixteen Again. Part 4 of 8. Puttin' >> > > on the Style >> > > The acclaimed series continues with an exploration of the >> > > era of skiffle and >> > > trad jazz, beatniks, beehive hairdos, coffee bars, the >> > > Aldermaston march and >> > > the twist. >> > > (Part 2) >> > > >> > > >> > > The remaining 4 parts are scheduled for the following week. >> > > >> > > >> > > Paul >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > From domesticempire@... Fri Apr 3 02:09:05 2009 From: domesticempire@... (Domestic Empire) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:09:05 +0100 Subject: [peel] Peel in Manchester #3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Super. Thanks Ken. gary johnpeel.net On 02/04/2009, ken garner wrote: > > Here, I think, is the very last of my complete shows, the third night in > March 96 - Wednesday 20th - that Peel sat in for Mark Radcliffe from > 10pm-midnight. And this is a jolly one, with Lard and Mark Lamarr in the > studio, and a good live session from Calvin Party. Has turned out a good > recording too. Enjoy. There is no more where this comes from. I did not tape > the Thursday because there was no session guest, and I did not tape the > second and third weeks later that year when Peel sat in again. Sorry about > that. > > k > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20a > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P3I4HQNM > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20b > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0XJOTJY9 > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20c > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YA81LWV1 > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20d > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I5SQ5RQM > > > > > From saipanda@... Fri Apr 3 05:46:12 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:46:12 -0000 Subject: Peel in Manchester #3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks to Ken for this one (and all the others). And also to Gary for the "Sixteen" documentaries. All very much appreciated. Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Domestic Empire wrote: > > Super. Thanks Ken. > > gary > johnpeel.net > > On 02/04/2009, ken garner wrote: > > > > Here, I think, is the very last of my complete shows, the third night in > > March 96 - Wednesday 20th - that Peel sat in for Mark Radcliffe from > > 10pm-midnight. And this is a jolly one, with Lard and Mark Lamarr in the > > studio, and a good live session from Calvin Party. Has turned out a good > > recording too. Enjoy. There is no more where this comes from. I did not tape > > the Thursday because there was no session guest, and I did not tape the > > second and third weeks later that year when Peel sat in again. Sorry about > > that. > > > > k > > > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20a > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P3I4HQNM > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20b > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0XJOTJY9 > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20c > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YA81LWV1 > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20d > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I5SQ5RQM > > > > > > > > > > > From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Fri Apr 3 10:29:57 2009 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (stephen phythian) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:29:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Peel in Manchester #3 Message-ID: <494558.91458.qm@...> Many thanks indeed. Sounds a corker! spp --- On Fri, 3/4/09, saipanda wrote: From: saipanda Subject: [peel] Re: Peel in Manchester #3 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 3 April, 2009, 4:46 AM Many thanks to Ken for this one (and all the others). And also to Gary for the "Sixteen" documentaries. All very much appreciated. Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Domestic Empire wrote: > > Super. Thanks Ken. > > gary > johnpeel.net > > On 02/04/2009, ken garner wrote: > > > > Here, I think, is the very last of my complete shows, the third night in > > March 96 - Wednesday 20th - that Peel sat in for Mark Radcliffe from > > 10pm-midnight. And this is a jolly one, with Lard and Mark Lamarr in the > > studio, and a good live session from Calvin Party. Has turned out a good > > recording too. Enjoy. There is no more where this comes from. I did not tape > > the Thursday because there was no session guest, and I did not tape the > > second and third weeks later that year when Peel sat in again. Sorry about > > that. > > > > k > > > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20a > > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= P3I4HQNM > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20b > > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= 0XJOTJY9 > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20c > > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= YA81LWV1 > > Peel is Radcliffe #3 1996-03-20d > > http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= I5SQ5RQM > > > > > > > > > > > From paul.hayward@... Fri Apr 3 13:21:03 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:21:03 -0000 Subject: Excellent Work Message-ID: Just wanted to say how excellent this group is and it's great that Peel's legacy is alive and celebrated. I've still got some dusty old tapes of sessions and have found most I wanted online of the ones that have never been released, but I've never been able to find good copies of the Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions. I know I had these of tape but can I turn them up.....can't tell you how many hours I've been going through the box :-) If anyone has any pointers, very my appreciated. Cheers Paul From parkermike81@... Fri Apr 3 18:08:25 2009 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:08:25 -0000 Subject: the wonder of woolies Message-ID: while were dealing with amusing & quirky little songs,came across this gem[not unless you used to work there] http://www.megaupload.com/?d=fr5csold From thebarguest@... Fri Apr 3 19:39:50 2009 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:39:50 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show Message-ID: I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so before you die. Right at the end of the show dated 7th May 1980, Peely reads out a request from a 'Hugh Strangler' who would like 'Rescue' by Echo and the Bunnymen to be played for the inmates of Pentonville jail. I remember this sorry chapter in The Stranglers' history. Singer Hugh Cornwell was jailed for drugs posession by a zealous judge who wanted to make an example out of him ! From robfleay@... Fri Apr 3 22:42:09 2009 From: robfleay@... (robf) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:42:09 +0100 Subject: A Meal With Peel 1993 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090403214209.AB2L4.200276.root@...> With all these sound files flying about I thought I'd scan in a magazine article I just found in a pile of old stuff. >From Siren Magazine (remember that? no...me neither) in 1993 the article was written by The Shend from The Cravats/Very Things who interviewed Peel over a curry on Brick Lane. A fun read for the weekend That's assuming attachments are allowed on the list? From harvisonanthony@... Sat Apr 4 17:06:16 2009 From: harvisonanthony@... (harvisonanthony) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:06:16 -0000 Subject: Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered Message-ID: Hello, I've just joined the group and so apologies if this has been covered already, but a previously missing Tyrannosaurus Rex Top Gear session has been found. The news story can be found on my website Wiped: http://wiped.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/tyrannosaurus-rex-missing-top-gear-session-discovered/ From ken_garner@... Sat Apr 4 18:15:36 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:15:36 -0000 Subject: Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, I know that news will excite a few people. It's true the duo's 2nd (for NightRide), then 3rd and 4th (Top Gear) sessions have been officially 'missing' for a long time (producer Bernie Andrews who recorded them did personally keep some classic sessions safe, but not these, I think), and would only turn up if on off-air tapes. Nigel Lees's announcement gets the TX date right (24th March), and the titles broadcast in that Top Gear right, though there were two other tracks from the session recording held on 11 March not broadcast unti the 'repeat' on 5th May (not the 3rd, a typo in my book, my mistake) - Mustang, and Strange Orchestra. But Lees's comment that Peel announces Afghan Woman as 'Strange Orchestras" gives me cause to wonder if the same piece had alternate titles? Anyone know? And I wonder if Lees and his label is aware of what's emerged lately in fragments of Top Gears (see the Peel wiki and the show fragments for 68/69)... ...mind you, I doubt if Universal, now holder of the TRex rights, will be sanguine about any possible attempt to put out these discoveries on Lees's Top Sounds label - Sue will probably want to do a reissue of the recent-ish boxed set with the new discoveries included! If you are in contact with Lees you should also tell him to keep the new Radio 1 media manager and archivist Richard Jeffery informed about his discoveries - this much is only fair k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "harvisonanthony" wrote: > > Hello, I've just joined the group and so apologies if this has been covered already, but a previously missing Tyrannosaurus Rex Top Gear session has been found. > > The news story can be found on my website Wiped: http://wiped.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/tyrannosaurus-rex-missing-top-gear-session-discovered/ > From dutch_record_59@... Sat Apr 4 18:25:46 2009 From: dutch_record_59@... (Gert Stuut) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <522059.1030.qm@...> That's good news! Hope this will be part of the third volume of Shapes & Sounds. Should be released next month. Gert ________________________________ From: harvisonanthony To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 5:06:16 PM Subject: [peel] Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered Hello, I've just joined the group and so apologies if this has been covered already, but a previously missing Tyrannosaurus Rex Top Gear session has been found. The news story can be found on my website Wiped: http://wiped. wordpress. com/2009/ 04/04/tyrannosau rus-rex-missing- top-gear- session-discover ed/ From hitchawk22@... Sat Apr 4 18:50:32 2009 From: hitchawk22@... (mark) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:50:32 -0000 Subject: Peel Shows on private torrent site Message-ID: Below is a notification I received from a site I'm a member of,I strongly suspect this maybe work that you guys have done? Just thought you ought to know.... All the best, etc.... mark. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A new torrent has been uploaded. Name: John Peel Show 28th April 1982 [TapeRip (mp3)] Size: 113.63 MB Category: Radio/Audio General & Entertai Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name * John Peel Show Station * BBC Radio One * 1982-04-28 Audio File type: MP3 Bit rate: 128 kbps Sample rate: 44.100 kHz Channels: Stereo Size: 113.62 MB High quality FM transmission captured on cassettte in 1982 and digitised in 2008 Comments * Plays several tracks from new LP by Altered Images. Final track of the night features the vocal talents of JP himself. Claims he is "rather proud" of his whistling. The new Cure album is also featured. * News before and after the show features buldup to Falklands War. Sessions * Bauhaus #2 (repeat) * Twinsets #1 (repeat) Tracklisting * Altered Images: Pinky Blue (LP - Pinky Blue) Epic * Altered Images: Forgotten (LP - Pinky Blue) Epic * Untouchables: Rat Patrol * Vernon Girls: Don't Look Now, But * Twinsets: Johnny Come Home (Peel session) * The Cure: A Short Term Effect (LP - Pornography) Fiction * ADC Band: Roll With The Punches * King Stitt & The Dynamites: Herbsman Shuffle * Bauhaus: Three Shadows (part two) (Peel session) * Cook Da Books: This Is Not The Time * Associates: Club Country * Altered Images: Little Brown Head (LP - Pinky Blue) Epic * Hi Fi Brothers: Going Out Of My Head * Twinsets: Stranded In The Jungle (Peel session) * Jeanie & Tash: - The Ladies Side * The Decendents: - I Like Food * Bauhaus: The Party Of The First Part (Peel session) * Sir Lord Comic & His Cowboys: Skaing West (side 2) * Minimal Man: Blue Step * The Blue Orchids: Wait * Twinsets: Suspicious Minds (Peel session) * Cabaret Voltaire: War Of Nerves * Swinging Laurels: Bang Bang....Is Anybody There ? * Bauhaus: Departure (Peel session) * Altered Images: Jump Jump (LP - Pinky Blue) Epic * Gang Of Four: I Love A Man In A Uniform * Purrkur Pillnikk: Fullkomnun * The Cure: A Strange Day (LP - Pornography) Fiction * Twinsets: I Remember You (Peel session) * The Business: Disco Girls * Altered Images: See You Later (LP - Pinky Blue) Epic * Altered Images: Song Sung Blue (LP - Pinky Blue) Epic More to come Notes: The source of this show was Julian, and was digitised by Kev at 128kbs but unfortunately no Flacs or higher bitrate available ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). http://thebox.bz/details.php?id=72936 -- TheBox From dutch_record_59@... Sat Apr 4 19:47:56 2009 From: dutch_record_59@... (Gert Stuut) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <957723.8844.qm@...> Ken, I will forward your message to Nigel Lees. Cheers, Gert ________________________________ From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 6:15:36 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered Thanks, I know that news will excite a few people. It's true the duo's 2nd (for NightRide), then 3rd and 4th (Top Gear) sessions have been officially 'missing' for a long time (producer Bernie Andrews who recorded them did personally keep some classic sessions safe, but not these, I think), and would only turn up if on off-air tapes. Nigel Lees's announcement gets the TX date right (24th March), and the titles broadcast in that Top Gear right, though there were two other tracks from the session recording held on 11 March not broadcast unti the 'repeat' on 5th May (not the 3rd, a typo in my book, my mistake) - Mustang, and Strange Orchestra. But Lees's comment that Peel announces Afghan Woman as 'Strange Orchestras" gives me cause to wonder if the same piece had alternate titles? Anyone know? And I wonder if Lees and his label is aware of what's emerged lately in fragments of Top Gears (see the Peel wiki and the show fragments for 68/69)... ...mind you, I doubt if Universal, now holder of the TRex rights, will be sanguine about any possible attempt to put out these discoveries on Lees's Top Sounds label - Sue will probably want to do a reissue of the recent-ish boxed set with the new discoveries included! If you are in contact with Lees you should also tell him to keep the new Radio 1 media manager and archivist Richard Jeffery informed about his discoveries - this much is only fair k --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "harvisonanthony" wrote: > > Hello, I've just joined the group and so apologies if this has been covered already, but a previously missing Tyrannosaurus Rex Top Gear session has been found. > > The news story can be found on my website Wiped: http://wiped. wordpress. com/2009/ 04/04/tyrannosau rus-rex-missing- top-gear- session-discover ed/ > From colin_ellis@... Sat Apr 4 20:19:57 2009 From: colin_ellis@... (grang354) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:19:57 -0000 Subject: Peel Tyrannosaurus Rex session discovered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Afghan Woman" & "Strange Orchestras" are different songs, both on the "My People were Fair..." LP. Maybe just a case of JP announcing the wrong session track? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > Thanks, I know that news will excite a few people. It's true the duo's 2nd (for NightRide), then 3rd and 4th (Top Gear) sessions have been officially 'missing' for a long time (producer Bernie Andrews who recorded them did personally keep some classic sessions safe, but not these, I think), and would only turn up if on off-air tapes. Nigel Lees's announcement gets the TX date right (24th March), and the titles broadcast in that Top Gear right, though there were two other tracks from the session recording held on 11 March not broadcast unti the 'repeat' on 5th May (not the 3rd, a typo in my book, my mistake) - Mustang, and Strange Orchestra. But Lees's comment that Peel announces Afghan Woman as 'Strange Orchestras" gives me cause to wonder if the same piece had alternate titles? Anyone know? And I wonder if Lees and his label is aware of what's emerged lately in fragments of Top Gears (see the Peel wiki and the show fragments for 68/69)... > > ...mind you, I doubt if Universal, now holder of the TRex rights, will be sanguine about any possible attempt to put out these discoveries on Lees's Top Sounds label - Sue will probably want to do a reissue of the recent-ish boxed set with the new discoveries included! > > If you are in contact with Lees you should also tell him to keep the new Radio 1 media manager and archivist Richard Jeffery informed about his discoveries - this much is only fair > > k > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "harvisonanthony" wrote: > > > > Hello, I've just joined the group and so apologies if this has been covered already, but a previously missing Tyrannosaurus Rex Top Gear session has been found. > > > > The news story can be found on my website Wiped: http://wiped.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/tyrannosaurus-rex-missing-top-gear-session-discovered/ > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Sun Apr 5 00:50:13 2009 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:50:13 -0000 Subject: Cassettes Message-ID: AND inlays http://www.c-90.org/catalogue/tapes phwoaarrr... From billfromnorthwales@... Sun Apr 5 02:26:37 2009 From: billfromnorthwales@... (billfromnorthwales) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:26:37 -0000 Subject: Cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Absolutely stunning. Woolies own brand is here http://www.c-90.org/catalogue/tapes/Audition-Winfield The real glamour models are here http://www.c-90.org/catalogue/tapes/TDK I have found a new hobby.........Thanks Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > AND inlays > > http://www.c-90.org/catalogue/tapes > > phwoaarrr... > From markbursa@... Sun Apr 5 03:08:12 2009 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:08:12 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Cassettes Message-ID: Wot, no Pinnacle? Mark ;-) From parkermike81@... Sun Apr 5 11:07:23 2009 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <620518.84197.qm@...> andrew this is great ha ha,and if anybody dismisses this as rather anoraky,i`d remind them that  ''yeah ok technology`s moved on but historically if it was`nt for tapes we would`nt be listening to the great man`s past shows''  and for all you lucky blighters I used quite a few expensively bought chrome tdk sa-x 90 mins[the rolls royce of tapes] for these peel volumes along with the normal tdk & ad versions,not forgetting the thouroughly reliable jvc gi & ufi versions that I somehow ended up with from a tape trader when I used to swap punk tapes with on a weekly basis,he used to nick these from the shop he worked at alledgedly, probably why he never complained when I used to send him the worst tapes in the world, the absolutely appaling made in hong kong ,ten for a pound -''audio plus type 1 [1ec1] c90`s'', ill fitted lids that fell off,awfull sound quality like a toy piano & one`s which chewed up regularly[unless for some strange reason they had ''low noise'' written on the feeder part of the tape,these were the only ones of the batch that played & sounded ok which naturally I kept myself] yours nostagically,mike. --- On Sun, 5/4/09, billfromnorthwales wrote: From: billfromnorthwales Subject: [peel] Re: Cassettes To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 12:26 AM Absolutely stunning. Woolies own brand is here http://www.c- 90.org/catalogue /tapes/Audition- Winfield The real glamour models are here http://www.c- 90.org/catalogue /tapes/TDK I have found a new hobby....... ..Thanks Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > AND inlays > > http://www.c- 90.org/catalogue /tapes > > phwoaarrr... > From ken_garner@... Sun Apr 5 12:05:56 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:05:56 -0000 Subject: Cassettes In-Reply-To: <620518.84197.qm@...> Message-ID: agreed. All my surviving complete shows I've been digitising over the past 6 months for y'all were done on TDK D, AD, or for some of the for-Brambles shows, Maxell UDIs (shop must have been out of TDKs). These tapes had all been gathering dust in boxes unplayed for up to 20/16/10 years, and all I had to do to get good quality for ripping was push the pitch control dial on my current TEAC double-deck up to about 2 o'clock. That's pretty impressive for a junked medium. I used to buy boxes of ten Ds or ADs like it was buying bread. Then in 93 I became a radio critic and got sent about 20 preview tapes of dull Radio 4 discussion shows every week, and miraculously found I had no further need to buy new cassettes, k --- In peel@...m, Mike Parker wrote: > > andrew this is great ha ha,and if anybody dismisses this as rather anoraky,i`d remind them that  ''yeah ok technology`s moved on but historically if it was`nt for tapes we would`nt be listening to the great man`s past shows''  and for all you lucky blighters I used quite a few expensively bought chrome tdk sa-x 90 mins[the rolls royce of tapes] for these peel volumes along with the normal tdk & ad versions,not forgetting the thouroughly reliable jvc gi & ufi versions that I somehow ended up with from a tape trader when I used to swap punk tapes with on a weekly basis,he used to nick these from the shop he worked at alledgedly, probably why he never complained when I used to send him the worst tapes in the world, the absolutely appaling made in hong kong ,ten for a pound -''audio plus type 1 [1ec1] c90`s'', ill fitted lids that fell off,awfull sound quality like a toy piano & one`s which chewed up regularly[unless for some strange reason they > had ''low noise'' written on the feeder part of the tape,these were the only ones of the batch that played & sounded ok which naturally I kept myself] yours nostagically,mike. > --- On Sun, 5/4/09, billfromnorthwales wrote: > > From: billfromnorthwales > Subject: [peel] Re: Cassettes > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 12:26 AM > > > > > > > Absolutely stunning. > > Woolies own brand is here > > http://www.c- 90.org/catalogue /tapes/Audition- Winfield > > The real glamour models are here > > http://www.c- 90.org/catalogue /tapes/TDK > > I have found a new hobby....... ..Thanks Andrew > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > > > AND inlays > > > > http://www.c- 90.org/catalogue /tapes > > > > phwoaarrr... > > > From parkermike81@... Sun Apr 5 12:46:55 2009 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:46:55 -0000 Subject: best of peel tracklists Message-ID: check out the wiki ''best of peel'' everybody [shows - mix tapes] steve`s been working his magic again,at least 2 more up there. From unity.gain@... Sun Apr 5 15:53:23 2009 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:53:23 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: None of those ghastly lime green Boots Ferric 120’s either. I had a couple of favourite Peel shows on them, but they deteriorated really badly over the years :-( Funny thing about TDK; yes the cassettes were fine, but whenever a student used to come to me with a DV tape chewed up in a camera, you could bet your bum it was a TDK , Cheers Roger On 05/04/2009 02:08, "markbursa@..." wrote: > > > > Wot, no Pinnacle? > > Mark > > ;-) > > > >> From robfleay@... Sun Apr 5 18:12:38 2009 From: robfleay@... (robf) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:12:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] Cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090405171238.ZM6PT.220353.root@...> See also http://www.tapedeck.org/ for a similar database ---- andrewthezmore wrote: > AND inlays > > http://www.c-90.org/catalogue/tapes > > phwoaarrr... > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Apr 6 03:01:06 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:01:06 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: close to the edit Message-ID: Fellow Peelites I have overcome a raging cold and weathered a North Korean rocket test to bring you the following. Show date: 06 June 1992 Sessions: Bardots, Swell Track listing and links: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_June_1992 One thing to note: Colin's original tapes have part of the show taped over the beginning of the first side, so I have edited it in to the final section in the proper place. Certainly not a Bill-type job (BTW, thanks again to him), but definitely not unlistenable, I think. Best wishes Steve [TK] From saipanda@... Mon Apr 6 03:36:57 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:36:57 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: close to the edit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve, Many thanks for this. On the subject of colds, was rewatching Peel on Room 101 the other day (full thing is on YouTube) and Peel has a few observations on the subject -- seem to remember the audience voted them to oblivion. Cheers, Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > I have overcome a raging cold and weathered a North Korean rocket test to bring you the following. > > Show date: 06 June 1992 > Sessions: Bardots, Swell > Track listing and links: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_June_1992 > > One thing to note: Colin's original tapes have part of the show taped over the beginning of the first side, so I have edited it in to the final section in the proper place. Certainly not a Bill-type job (BTW, thanks again to him), but definitely not unlistenable, I think. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > From dr_mango2004@... Mon Apr 6 16:09:32 2009 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:09:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 2 Oct 2003 (Soledad Brothers) Message-ID: <672800.3716.qm@...> I've got a copy of this show that's been ripped from either the "listen live" or "listen again" stream (this version is on torrent #14). Either way, the bit rate is fairly low and echoey. Has anyone got a better quality version, either from FM or digitial source? A friend of mine had a dedication read out by JP on this show and I'd like to snip it out for them as a surprise gift. Dr M From parkermike81@... Mon Apr 6 16:23:08 2009 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:23:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] 500 Box: close to the edit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <396829.53564.qm@...> thanks to steve & not forgetting colin,this one`s going into the quantum of solace mp3 player first thing tuesday morning,agghhh damn i`ve given away what gutter press i read. --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Steve wrote: From: Steve Subject: [peel] 500 Box: close to the edit To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 1:01 AM Fellow Peelites I have overcome a raging cold and weathered a North Korean rocket test to bring you the following. Show date: 06 June 1992 Sessions: Bardots, Swell Track listing and links: http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/06_June_ 1992 One thing to note: Colin's original tapes have part of the show taped over the beginning of the first side, so I have edited it in to the final section in the proper place. Certainly not a Bill-type job (BTW, thanks again to him), but definitely not unlistenable, I think. Best wishes Steve [TK] From paul.hayward@... Mon Apr 6 19:39:14 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:39:14 -0000 Subject: Sophisticated Boom Boom Message-ID: You know when you definately had sessions on tape....and then you spend hours going through your tape box to no avail. That happened with my Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions... amongst my favourites unreleased ones. If anyone comes across these or know where I might secure them....much much obliged From hangthedj@... Mon Apr 6 20:39:30 2009 From: hangthedj@... (hangthedj@...) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:39:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] Sophisticated Boom Boom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E5F97FF-B14E-4740-9D12-BA667A234B19@...> Oh No! But two sessions and a few tracks here, love to hear any more too http://rapidshare.com/files/166102416/SBBthirdsession.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/166102415/SBBfirstsession.zip http://my.opera.com/hangthedj/blog/sophisticated-boom-boom On 6 Apr 2009, at 18:39, dr_haywire wrote: > You know when you definately had sessions on tape....and then you > spend hours going through your tape box to no avail. That happened > with my Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions... amongst my favourites > unreleased ones. > > If anyone comes across these or know where I might secure > them....much much obliged > > > From martinw@... Mon Apr 6 22:35:49 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:35:49 +0100 Subject: Sophisticated Boom Boom Message-ID: A few days ago someone asked for Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions (there are three) I was having computer trouble at the time and so didn't reply Can who whoever asked repeat what they wanted - I might be able to help martinw From jpdl@... Tue Apr 7 00:17:56 2009 From: jpdl@... (bbrbr57) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:17:56 -0000 Subject: 2 Oct 2003 (Soledad Brothers) In-Reply-To: <672800.3716.qm@...> Message-ID: > Has anyone got a better quality version, either from FM or > digitial source? Here is a 128 kbit mp3 version: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=390ZJWTY B. From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Apr 7 04:53:48 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:53:48 -0000 Subject: Thanks Message-ID: a) To Mike for highlighting the Best Of Peel on the Wiki: more track listings to come. Any more compialtions in the pipeline? pretty please?? b) To Steve and Mike for their words about the last 500 Box rip: as you say, without Colin's spirit of adventure, they would not exist. c) To bbrbr57 for the improved version of 2 October 2003. This was my first track listing for the Wiki, and I have just updated it as a result. d) To hangthedj for the two Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions. The second was repeated during the 1982 FF, so if you have that one, Martin, I would love to hear it. While I was searching for these on the Net (to no avail), I was amused by one girl's comment: 'I hated Sophisticated Boom Boom, because my boyfriend ran off with one of them'! Were they really all that to look at? e) To Ken for just about everything!! Best wishes Steve [TK] From martinw@... Tue Apr 7 10:00:21 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:00:21 +0100 Subject: [peel] Thanks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >d) To hangthedj for the two Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions. The >second was repeated during the 1982 FF, so if you have that one, >Martin, I would love to hear it. While I was searching for these on >the Net (to no avail), I was amused by one girl's comment: 'I hated >Sophisticated Boom Boom, because my boyfriend ran off with one of >them'! Were they really all that to look at? I think I'm being exceptionally thick this morning even by my standards so to clarify you have the first (10-11-81) and the third (15-6-82) but need the 2nd (7-10-82) http://www.divshare.com/download/7033031-3d7 I think the last lineup (with only one member in common with the linup that did these sessions) became His Latest Flame martinw From paul.hayward@... Tue Apr 7 11:41:53 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:41:53 -0000 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In a small world but wouldn't want to paint it I've got a feeling the recording of the 1st session may be mine....I was horrified at the time the low audio output and high hiss for no reason .My brother digitised them I think to the web site you mentioned. Thanks very much for your help with these. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > >d) To hangthedj for the two Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions. The > >second was repeated during the 1982 FF, so if you have that one, > >Martin, I would love to hear it. While I was searching for these on > >the Net (to no avail), I was amused by one girl's comment: 'I hated > >Sophisticated Boom Boom, because my boyfriend ran off with one of > >them'! Were they really all that to look at? > > I think I'm being exceptionally thick this morning even > by my standards so to clarify > > you have the first (10-11-81) and the third (15-6-82) > but need the 2nd (7-10-82) > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7033031-3d7 > > I think the last lineup (with only one member in > common with the linup that did these sessions) > became His Latest Flame > > martinw > From paul.hayward@... Tue Apr 7 11:44:48 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:44:48 -0000 Subject: Thanks Message-ID: I should also say many thanks for the work in making available those tapes I'm hoovering up a lot of those. Like most people I cut Peel off from my recordings at the time and it's wonderful to hear the complete programmes in context again. From dr_mango2004@... Tue Apr 7 17:05:20 2009 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:05:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: 2 Oct 2003 (Soledad Brothers) Message-ID: <414134.19049.qm@...> Many thanks for this - a big improvement over the quality of the other version. DM --- On Mon, 6/4/09, bbrbr57 wrote: From: bbrbr57 Subject: [peel] Re: 2 Oct 2003 (Soledad Brothers) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 11:17 PM > Has anyone got a better quality version, either from FM or > digitial source? Here is a 128 kbit mp3 version: http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= 390ZJWTY B. From alan@... Tue Apr 7 21:43:43 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:43:43 -0000 Subject: Thanks .. Message-ID: .. to the person who sent me a box of tapes/CDs. Much appreciated. Alan From tabdrinkink74@... Wed Apr 8 00:12:05 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Solar Race In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402690.14823.qm@...> Hi there, i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. thomas From ken_garner@... Wed Apr 8 00:45:36 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:45:36 -0000 Subject: Solar Race In-Reply-To: <402690.14823.qm@...> Message-ID: ...but before you do that, thomas, could you wing me the title, track listings (is it both 95 and 96 sessions, complete? or not?), label and catalogue number, for entering in my updated sessionography file - for any revised edition that might be asked for sometime... ta ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Hi there, > > i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. > > thomas > From tabdrinkink74@... Wed Apr 8 00:57:45 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <192852.89636.qm@...> Okay Ken, it is... Artist: Solar Race Title: The Peel Sessions Bar 2 (...so not complete) Tracklisting: 1. One Day Out 2. Good Enough 3. Butterfly Kisses 4. Sweet FA 5. Skewiff 6. Good Friends Label: Silvertone Records Year: 1996 Cat. no.: ORE CD 542 i suspect you know this, but tracks 2, 5 & 6 were first transmitted 2nd June 1995 and 1, 3 & 4 were first transmitted 26th May 1996. any takers? thomas ________________________________ From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 23:45:36 Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race ...but before you do that, thomas, could you wing me the title, track listings (is it both 95 and 96 sessions, complete? or not?), label and catalogue number, for entering in my updated sessionography file - for any revised edition that might be asked for sometime... ta ken --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Hi there, > > i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. > > thomas > From ken_garner@... Wed Apr 8 01:24:52 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:24:52 -0000 Subject: Solar Race In-Reply-To: <192852.89636.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks, but listings I have do not give a title called Good Friends from 1st session, so it must be most likely a retitled version of either Out Of Time or Disgrace. Any clue in the lyrics, does either of those phrases appear? Wish I hadn't asked now... k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Okay Ken, it is... > > Artist: Solar Race > > Title: The Peel Sessions Bar 2 (...so not complete) > > Tracklisting: > 1. One Day Out > 2. Good Enough > 3. Butterfly Kisses > 4. Sweet FA > 5. Skewiff > 6. Good Friends > > Label: Silvertone Records > > Year: 1996 > > Cat. no.: ORE CD 542 > > i suspect you know this, but tracks 2, 5 & 6 were first transmitted 2nd June 1995 and 1, 3 & 4 were first transmitted 26th May 1996. > > any takers? > > thomas > > > > > ________________________________ > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 23:45:36 > Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race > > > > ...but before you do that, thomas, could you wing me the title, track listings (is it both 95 and 96 sessions, complete? or not?), label and catalogue number, for entering in my updated sessionography file - for any revised edition that might be asked for sometime... > > ta > > ken > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. > > > > thomas > > > From tabdrinkink74@... Wed Apr 8 01:44:42 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75377.90685.qm@...> It's okay, i'll give it a listen tomorrow and let you know. thomas ________________________________ From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 0:24:52 Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race Thanks, but listings I have do not give a title called Good Friends from 1st session, so it must be most likely a retitled version of either Out Of Time or Disgrace. Any clue in the lyrics, does either of those phrases appear? Wish I hadn't asked now... k --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Okay Ken, it is... > > Artist: Solar Race > > Title: The Peel Sessions Bar 2 (...so not complete) > > Tracklisting: > 1. One Day Out > 2. Good Enough > 3. Butterfly Kisses > 4. Sweet FA > 5. Skewiff > 6. Good Friends > > Label: Silvertone Records > > Year: 1996 > > Cat. no.: ORE CD 542 > > i suspect you know this, but tracks 2, 5 & 6 were first transmitted 2nd June 1995 and 1, 3 & 4 were first transmitted 26th May 1996. > > any takers? > > thomas > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 23:45:36 > Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race > > > > ...but before you do that, thomas, could you wing me the title, track listings (is it both 95 and 96 sessions, complete? or not?), label and catalogue number, for entering in my updated sessionography file - for any revised edition that might be asked for sometime... > > ta > > ken > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. > > > > thomas > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Apr 8 04:02:37 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:02:37 -0000 Subject: Solar Race In-Reply-To: <75377.90685.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Thomas Is it too late to put in a bid for the CD? Post to South Korea's not too expensive these days, and I am rather partial to this band... In hope and with best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > It's okay, i'll give it a listen tomorrow and let you know. > > thomas > > > > > ________________________________ > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 0:24:52 > Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race > > > > Thanks, but listings I have do not give a title called Good Friends from 1st session, so it must be most likely a retitled version of either Out Of Time or Disgrace. Any clue in the lyrics, does either of those phrases appear? Wish I hadn't asked now... > > k > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > > > Okay Ken, it is... > > > > Artist: Solar Race > > > > Title: The Peel Sessions Bar 2 (...so not complete) > > > > Tracklisting: > > 1. One Day Out > > 2. Good Enough > > 3. Butterfly Kisses > > 4. Sweet FA > > 5. Skewiff > > 6. Good Friends > > > > Label: Silvertone Records > > > > Year: 1996 > > > > Cat. no.: ORE CD 542 > > > > i suspect you know this, but tracks 2, 5 & 6 were first transmitted 2nd June 1995 and 1, 3 & 4 were first transmitted 26th May 1996. > > > > any takers? > > > > thomas > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: ken garner > > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 23:45:36 > > Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race > > > > > > > > ...but before you do that, thomas, could you wing me the title, track listings (is it both 95 and 96 sessions, complete? or not?), label and catalogue number, for entering in my updated sessionography file - for any revised edition that might be asked for sometime... > > > > ta > > > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. > > > > > > thomas > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Apr 8 04:05:00 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:05:00 -0000 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Martin Thank you once again: these are excellent, and I can't believe I never heard them before. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > >d) To hangthedj for the two Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions. The > >second was repeated during the 1982 FF, so if you have that one, > >Martin, I would love to hear it. While I was searching for these on > >the Net (to no avail), I was amused by one girl's comment: 'I hated > >Sophisticated Boom Boom, because my boyfriend ran off with one of > >them'! Were they really all that to look at? > > I think I'm being exceptionally thick this morning even > by my standards so to clarify > > you have the first (10-11-81) and the third (15-6-82) > but need the 2nd (7-10-82) > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7033031-3d7 > > I think the last lineup (with only one member in > common with the linup that did these sessions) > became His Latest Flame > > martinw > From tabdrinkink74@... Wed Apr 8 14:38:08 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <100009.54996.qm@...> Hi Steve, yes that's fine, e-mail me your address and i'll send it soon. And Ken, the chorus of 'Good Friends' seems to go "never means never, never means never..." if that's any help, hopefully somebody will know what this used to be called... thomas ________________________________ From: Steve To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 3:02:37 Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race Hi Thomas Is it too late to put in a bid for the CD? Post to South Korea's not too expensive these days, and I am rather partial to this band... In hope and with best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > It's okay, i'll give it a listen tomorrow and let you know. > > thomas > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 0:24:52 > Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race > > > > Thanks, but listings I have do not give a title called Good Friends from 1st session, so it must be most likely a retitled version of either Out Of Time or Disgrace. Any clue in the lyrics, does either of those phrases appear? Wish I hadn't asked now... > > k > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > > > Okay Ken, it is... > > > > Artist: Solar Race > > > > Title: The Peel Sessions Bar 2 (...so not complete) > > > > Tracklisting: > > 1. One Day Out > > 2. Good Enough > > 3. Butterfly Kisses > > 4. Sweet FA > > 5.. Skewiff > > 6. Good Friends > > > > Label: Silvertone Records > > > > Year: 1996 > > > > Cat. no.: ORE CD 542 > > > > i suspect you know this, but tracks 2, 5 & 6 were first transmitted 2nd June 1995 and 1, 3 & 4 were first transmitted 26th May 1996. > > > > any takers? > > > > thomas > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: ken garner > > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 23:45:36 > > Subject: [peel] Re: Solar Race > > > > > > > > ...but before you do that, thomas, could you wing me the title, track listings (is it both 95 and 96 sessions, complete? or not?), label and catalogue number, for entering in my updated sessionography file - for any revised edition that might be asked for sometime... > > > > ta > > > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > i have been clearing out a few things and found a Peel sessions CD by a band called Solar Race released on Silvertone, don't really think i'll ever listen to it again so if anybody would like it let me know and i'll post it to them. > > > > > > thomas > > > > > > From dutch_record_59@... Wed Apr 8 20:58:37 2009 From: dutch_record_59@... (Gert Stuut) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:58:37 -0000 Subject: Top Gear Sessions by The Glass Menagerie Message-ID: I made a compilation from Andy's tapes for myself and some friends, hope you don't mind Andy. If you do let me know and I delete the file. (NB I didn't inform my friends yet). The download link is: http://sharebee.com/614d03be Cheers, Gert From hubcity@... Wed Apr 8 23:27:08 2009 From: hubcity@... (hubcity@...) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:27:08 -0400 Subject: [OT] [Altrok] Update #229: Support Your Local Web Station! Message-ID: <0KHS001MHWX8HT60@...> Firstly, the important stuff: Altrok Radio is at http://www.altrokradio.com Please remember to tune in whenever you can - every hour you listen turns into more visibility for the station; we show up higher in search listings, and such like that. 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This week, our Grinders (the stuff we play heavily) include music from: - Depeche Mode - We Have Band - White Lies - Passion Pit - Morrissey - The Wombats Plus we've got newly-added music: - Brakes - Hey Hey - Doves - Kingdom Of Rust - Gaslight Anthem - Great Expectations - Glad Hearts - West Fast Enough - Handsome Furs - I'm Confused - Hockey - Too Fake - Kid British - She Will Leave - Lowline - Gun In My Side - The National - So Far Around The Bend - Noisettes - Don't Upset The Rhythm - The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart - Young Adult Friction - The Rifles - Romeo And Julie - St. Vincent - The Strangers - The Ting Tings - We Walk - Voxtrot - Trepanation Party - The Wrens - Pulled Fences (Live) Our Newly-Added Classics: - Bjork - Isobel - The Church - Almost With You - Elvis Costello - Radio Radio - Heaven 17 - Temptation - The Pressure Boys - Tina Goes To The Supermarket - The Replacements - Color Me Impressed - The Stranglers - No More Heroes - Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend - Ultravox - Sleepwalk And don't forget the R/SYN Underground night, every Saturday at the Corner Tavern in New Brunswick, where Drew and IronMike keep you dancing with the most advanced playlist this side of the Atlantic (and where, occasionally, yours truly might show up and spin a coupla tracks...ya never know.) For those who didn't forget about the Melody Bar Reunion (or even if you did) we'll air all the music that played on Satruday, March 21, all day long. Do I really need to say more about that, hm? - Sean Carolan Altrok Radio On your computer now at http://www.altrokradio.com On the radio Fridays at 10pm, at 90.5 The Night From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Apr 9 19:45:46 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:45:46 -0000 Subject: Sophisticated Boom Boom In-Reply-To: <9E5F97FF-B14E-4740-9D12-BA667A234B19@...> Message-ID: I fear Dr Haywire's suspicions about these two sessions are well-founded: they are almost inaudible. Either I'm doing something wrong, or I would like to ask for Martin's help once again, as the session he put up is little short of essential, and I'd love to hear more. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, hangthedj@... wrote: > > > Oh No! But two sessions and a few tracks here, love to hear any more too > > http://rapidshare.com/files/166102416/SBBthirdsession.zip > > http://rapidshare.com/files/166102415/SBBfirstsession.zip > > http://my.opera.com/hangthedj/blog/sophisticated-boom-boom > > > > On 6 Apr 2009, at 18:39, dr_haywire wrote: > > > You know when you definately had sessions on tape....and then you > > spend hours going through your tape box to no avail. That happened > > with my Sophisticated Boom Boom sessions... amongst my favourites > > unreleased ones. > > > > If anyone comes across these or know where I might secure > > them....much much obliged > > > > > > > From martinw@... Thu Apr 9 23:55:18 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:55:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Sophisticated Boom Boom In-Reply-To: References: <9E5F97FF-B14E-4740-9D12-BA667A234B19@...> Message-ID: At 18:45 09/04/2009, you wrote: >I fear Dr Haywire's suspicions about these two sessions are >well-founded: they are almost inaudible. Either I'm doing something >wrong, or I would like to ask for Martin's help once again, as the >session he put up is little short of essential, and I'd love to hear more. > >Best wishes >Steve [TK] I'll put them up over the weekend martinw From saipanda@... Fri Apr 10 10:08:31 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:08:31 -0000 Subject: Syrtis: two from 1994, two from 1999 Message-ID: Hi folks, Wiki user Syrtis has been trying to join the mailing list, but it seems like the application is still "pending" (and has been for the past few weeks). Can anyone sort this out? On a related point, Syrtis has uploaded some shows. Here's links to Wiki pages for three of them: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_March_1999 http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/01_July_1994 http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/05_August_1994 There's another one, 24 March 1999, but no Wiki page for that yet. Here's the download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/219385628/Peel_1999-03-24.mp3 Many thanks to Syrtis for sharing these (apparently there may be a few more as well). Hope we can get the mailing list application sorted out and off the pending list. Cheers, Steve W From saipanda@... Fri Apr 10 10:14:34 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:14:34 -0000 Subject: Syrtis: two from 1994, two from 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To be more exact, the message Syrtis is getting is: Your membership is awaiting approval by the group owner Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Wiki user Syrtis has been trying to join the mailing list, but it seems like the application is still "pending" (and has been for the past few weeks). Can anyone sort this out? > > On a related point, Syrtis has uploaded some shows. Here's links to Wiki pages for three of them: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/23_March_1999 > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/01_July_1994 > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/05_August_1994 > > There's another one, 24 March 1999, but no Wiki page for that yet. Here's the download link: > http://rapidshare.com/files/219385628/Peel_1999-03-24.mp3 > > Many thanks to Syrtis for sharing these (apparently there may be a few more as well). > > Hope we can get the mailing list application sorted out and off the pending list. > > Cheers, > > Steve W > From parkermike81@... Fri Apr 10 12:33:17 2009 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:33:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Syrtis: two from 1994, two from 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <173780.79968.qm@...> welcome syrtis & thanks for these shows to you and steve w during the bank holiday,perfect timing. mike. --- On Fri, 10/4/09, saipanda wrote: From: saipanda Subject: [peel] Syrtis: two from 1994, two from 1999 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 10 April, 2009, 8:08 AM Hi folks, Wiki user Syrtis has been trying to join the mailing list, but it seems like the application is still "pending" (and has been for the past few weeks). Can anyone sort this out? On a related point, Syrtis has uploaded some shows. Here's links to Wiki pages for three of them: http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/23_March_ 1999 http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/01_July_ 1994 http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/05_August_ 1994 There's another one, 24 March 1999, but no Wiki page for that yet. Here's the download link: http://rapidshare. com/files/ 219385628/ Peel_1999- 03-24.mp3 Many thanks to Syrtis for sharing these (apparently there may be a few more as well). Hope we can get the mailing list application sorted out and off the pending list. Cheers, Steve W From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Apr 11 08:51:33 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:51:33 -0000 Subject: Best Of Peel Vol. 18: 'Suppression of the ego time' Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Mike has kindly entrusted me with the task of circulating this compilation, which he says is one of his favourites, and certainly shows the benefit of those chrome tapes he invested in. Title of mixtape: best of peel vol 18 (with introductions) Session: Carcass, #2 Track listing and links: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Of_Peel_Vol_18 Best wishes Steve [TK] From saipanda@... Sat Apr 11 13:13:11 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:11 -0000 Subject: two more from Syrtis Message-ID: Hi folks, Two more from Syrtis: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/27_April_2000 http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_October_1999 Many thanks again to Syrtis for sharing these. One more to come, apparently. Cheers, Steve From martinw@... Sat Apr 11 14:11:01 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:11:01 +0100 Subject: The Group Named After A Shangri-Las Song! Message-ID: Sophisticated Boom Boom of course 1-12-81 http://www.divshare.com/download/7074956-ad5 15-6-83 http://www.divshare.com/download/7074980-5a9 martinw From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Apr 11 14:33:00 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:33:00 -0000 Subject: The Group Named After A Shangri-Las Song! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks again Martin! Really looking forward to hearing these. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > Sophisticated Boom Boom of course > > 1-12-81 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7074956-ad5 > > > 15-6-83 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7074980-5a9 > > martinw > From alan@... Sat Apr 11 18:54:52 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:54:52 -0000 Subject: 1996-03-20 Peel for Radcliffe Message-ID: Ken supplied the full version of this excellent show as 4 x 30-ish minute MP3s (presumably recorded on C60s), for which many thanks. I also have 90 mins of this show (across 2 tapes) and it has long been a favourite of mine. Ken's MP3s obviously have 3 breaks a/b News b/c JP link c/d Record (Quad by The Heads) UNBELIEVABLY the break between my two tapes occurs on exactly the same link as Ken's !! But if any nerd (sorry, completist) out there would like full versions of the news or The Heads track, I have extracted them to a separate FLAC file. Cheers Alan From paul.hayward@... Sun Apr 12 01:00:46 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:00:46 -0000 Subject: The Group Named After A Shangri-Las Song! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You sir are a gentleman and a scholar good work --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > Sophisticated Boom Boom of course > > 1-12-81 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7074956-ad5 > > > 15-6-83 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7074980-5a9 > > martinw > From stuart.jones40@... Mon Apr 13 10:39:26 2009 From: stuart.jones40@... (lionelgramaticus) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:39:26 -0000 Subject: Fabulous Poodles 1977 session Message-ID: Hello there everyone. I'm anxious to get THIS session : The Fabulous Poodles Recorded: 18/04/1977 Transmitted: 27/04/1977 Producer - Tony Wilson Engineer - Dave Dade Studio - Maida Vale 4 TRACKLIST: Workday On The Street Where You Live When The Summer's Through Mr Mike Can any kind soul out there point me to a download link for this, or for the Peelie show it came from? Please? I would shed tears of gratitude. Greetings, while I'm at it, to everyone here: I run 16 free mp3 websites, one of which is dedicated to Peel sessions. That one can be found at: http://peelysessions.blogspot.com/ ALL the webpages can be accessed via THIS link : http://themrobscuredirectory.blogspot.com/ Uncontrollable regards to you all from - Stewy (mr. obscure) IMPORTANT PS - Please email me at THIS address: stuart.jones40@... (The Yahoo one is just to get on this Forum) From parkerfranz@... Mon Apr 13 11:36:53 2009 From: parkerfranz@... (parkerfranz) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:36:53 -0000 Subject: Dr. Phibes and the house of wax equations Message-ID: Does someone have this record : "The dark side of the pool" Label: Liquid Noise Records Country: UK Released: 1991 Genre: Rock Because i'm interested by a Dr. Phibes'cover of Lucifer Sam. Also an entire version of "Magic Bus". Thanks for help. Franz From saipanda@... Tue Apr 14 18:47:41 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:47:41 -0000 Subject: last one from Syrtis Message-ID: Here's the links: http://rapidshare.com/files/221269346/Peel_2001-05-08A__Astrid_session_.mp3 http://rapidshare.com/files/221281540/Peel_2001-05-08B__Astrid_session_.mp3 Many thanks indeed to Syrtis for sharing these shows and the others with us. Hope someone can sort out the pending mailing list membership approval. Cheers, Steve From john.bravin@... Tue Apr 14 20:19:03 2009 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:19:03 +0200 Subject: Spotify In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49E4D397.7080402@...> Maybe they're easily available tracks, but FYI there are about 200 Peel Session tracks on Spotify. John From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Apr 15 03:31:11 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:31:11 -0000 Subject: last one from Syrtis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for putting these links up, Steve! BTW, Syrtis would like to make it clear that these files contain the whole show, not just the sessions: most welcome addition to the Peel canon! Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Here's the links: > > http://rapidshare.com/files/221269346/Peel_2001-05-08A__Astrid_session_.mp3 > http://rapidshare.com/files/221281540/Peel_2001-05-08B__Astrid_session_.mp3 > > Many thanks indeed to Syrtis for sharing these shows and the others with us. > > Hope someone can sort out the pending mailing list membership approval. > > Cheers, > > Steve > From ken_garner@... Sun Apr 19 20:43:26 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:43:26 -0000 Subject: Walters' 50th Birthday Special Message-ID: The cupboard was not bare, after all. Back home this weekend after being away for Easter, I found this stormer of a show today while sorting out some old tapes. I was sure I had it somewhere and was surprised I had not found it earlier. But then it was an unlabelled Fuji DR120 without a box. I knew I had kept it because I wrote about this one 20 years ago. I stand by everything I said, and have no need to repeat it here. Enjoy. There is some low mains hum in the background of the original recording, but the quality in every other sense is so spanking - amazing for a tape that has been left unloved and unprotected in a drawer for 20 years - that I doubt this will impair your listening pleasure. k peel 1989-07-11 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=323K7BEI pdf of jockclock article http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HF72MO52 PS. it has gone a bit quiet over the holidays round here, eh? From alan@... Sun Apr 19 22:11:44 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:11:44 -0000 Subject: Peel show - 10/2/1999 Message-ID: Either no-one has posted for 4 days, or there's a problem with my e-mail. Anyway, here's another show from the attic. It's 94 mins of a two-hour-ish show from 10/2/99, with Woodbine in session. Ken's book indicates, on p237, that the show ran from 10:10pm to midnight. My tape misses the first and last tracks. The audio quality my be dodgy, but the aesthetic quality is high. Tracklisting here: http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/06.txt Note that, as indicated, the track by Mr & Mrs Young was not played that night (many thanks Lorcan). Side a 46:55 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GMSCDJY5 Runs from TD5 - Subway Life to The Black Dog - Simperton Side b 47:42 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KVOLJD36 Runs from The Black Dog - Simperton to Bonnie Prince Billy - Minor Place Cheera Alan From AndrewThezmore@... Sun Apr 19 23:23:00 2009 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:23:00 -0000 Subject: Easter lull Message-ID: Thanks to Ken and Alan for those, looking forward to hearing them. It has been a bit slow just recently around here, but I've been up in the loft too (5/5/1999 being fed through as I type) and am planning a bit of splurge over the next few months, to coincide with the 10th (!) anniversary of the Peelenium. Still no sign of any 83-86 shows turning up in huge numbers, but I'm still hoping... Cheers Andrew From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Apr 20 03:59:37 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:59:37 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: nobbled by the Straits Message-ID: Fellow Peelites The Easter lull has not gone unnoticed, especially not on the Wiki, where the only contributor for the last three days has been yours truly! But I have another marvellous show from Colin's box of tricks for you all. In this one, Peel is understandably miffed at his programme starting late due to a Dire Straits concert overrunning, and his opening comment is priceless. Quality is so good that one almost doesn't miss the stereo. Hopefully. Show date: 20 June 1992 Sessions: 70 Gwen Party #2, Bivouac #1 (repeat). Track listing (a bit skeletal at the moment) and download links (thanks again Bill): http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_June_1992 And of course thanks to Ken and Alan for their new shows. Best wishes Steve [TK] From robfleay@... Mon Apr 20 09:58:45 2009 From: robfleay@... (robf) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 8:58:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] 500 Box: nobbled by the Straits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090420085845.WLJ55.129235.root@...> Cheers for this. I taped the first 70 Gwen Party back in the day and despite it being, for the most part, uncomprimising industrial noise, I always had a soft spot for it. I never caught any of their later sessions, but thanks to the wiki I know know they got released on Strange Fruit (I had no idea..) Another one for the ebay-watch list! ---- Steve wrote: > Fellow Peelites > > The Easter lull has not gone unnoticed, especially not on the Wiki, where the only contributor for the last three days has been yours truly! But I have another marvellous show from Colin's box of tricks for you all. In this one, Peel is understandably miffed at his programme starting late due to a Dire Straits concert overrunning, and his opening comment is priceless. Quality is so good that one almost doesn't miss the stereo. Hopefully. > > Show date: 20 June 1992 > Sessions: 70 Gwen Party #2, Bivouac #1 (repeat). > Track listing (a bit skeletal at the moment) and download links (thanks again Bill): http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_June_1992 > > And of course thanks to Ken and Alan for their new shows. > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From jemstone66@... Mon Apr 20 10:53:02 2009 From: jemstone66@... (chaileyjem) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:53:02 -0000 Subject: Peel's Contract / BBC Written Archives Message-ID: Spotted this which presumably Ken has pored over once upon a time. The Guardian has a small piece today on the BBC's plans to digitise its written archive (currently stored at Caversham). It includes a gallery of various docs including this pic of Peel's first ever contract for BBC when he started on Top Gear. http://bit.ly/peelcontract "£18 to take part as assistant compere" From ken_garner@... Mon Apr 20 19:15:51 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:15:51 -0000 Subject: Peel's Contract / BBC Written Archives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ah! happy days! On first arrival, or on your return after a long absence, the written archive seems a peculiar, anachronistic, very formal place, somehow out of time - but it only takes a few minutes immersed in it to fall in love with its discreet but astonishing potential. Every research student I have known who has been there says the same thing: 'I was terrified when I arrived, but within an hour I had fallen in love with it!' Pity the Guardian pics do not show the main reading room, microfilm shelves (in a corridor) which contain all the Radio PasB scripts in little boxes, or the microfilm reader room, which are the places I came to know best. I plan to ask to go back late this summer for a couple of days to check the anomalies and gaps that have emerged since Peel Sessions went to press: so get your requests in now! k ps. anyone in theory can apply to go, although academics and contracted authors are favoured, but you have to be flexible and fit in when they have the time and seat(s) for you on the public access days, and give a genuine scholarly reason why. Details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/heritage/more/wac.shtml --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "chaileyjem" wrote: > > Spotted this which presumably Ken has pored over once upon a time. > The Guardian has a small piece today on the BBC's plans to digitise its written archive (currently stored at Caversham). It includes a gallery of various docs including this pic of Peel's first ever contract for BBC when he started on Top Gear. > http://bit.ly/peelcontract > "£18 to take part as assistant compere" > From koogy@... Mon Apr 20 19:50:37 2009 From: koogy@... (Andrew Dean) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:50:37 +0100 Subject: Peel's Contract / BBC Written Archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> http://bit.ly/peelcontract is that crookham road in Parsons Green? it says SW16 but Crookham Road is now SW6. perhaps the postcodes have changed. or a typo. anyway, it's about 2 miles from here, i might go and visit. andy From ken_garner@... Mon Apr 20 21:47:46 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:47:46 -0000 Subject: Peel's Contract / BBC Written Archives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: don't know, sorry. Have now read the full guardian piece, available here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/20/bbc-archives and a few comments: That opening is quoting from the letter I quote in TPS and IST, of course. The later documents cited as from Peel's file (Yeah Yeah Noh, UB40), used to be in the sessions sheets files in Walters' office, like The Passions memo, Dale Griffin's memo on recording electronic acts, and so on... because that's where i recall finding them and quoting them. Couldn't quote them all. These went to Archives some years ago. The final break-out box quote from 1968 about Peel's payment does not refer to his normal weekly contract for Top Gear or NightRide, but as I recall (without checking my notes) this one referred to Peel's more substantial contribution to The Voice of Pop (TX 21/9/68), which I seem to recall Tony Gould (a talks producer, later editor producer of From Our Own Correspondent) produced. I suspect others of you will like me be struck by the potential import for us of this section of the article: "The kernel of the BBC Archive is already online at bbc.co.uk/archive, where the first few collections are being presented to the public. Further development may take the form of crowdsourcing, Ageh says, perhaps granting access to parts of the archive to colleges or specialist groups, such as the Sherlock Holmes Society. Such organisations could help develop and validate the content" could there be a role for us here? I suggest, however, we do nothing until the 400 Project is complete and we donate the lossless disk versions to the BBC, then intimate our interest and capabilities based on this staggering collective achievement - speaking of which, is the end in sight? Rocker, do you need aother cash infusion from the congregation to pay for disks and postage? k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Dean" wrote: > > >> http://bit.ly/peelcontract > > is that crookham road in Parsons Green? it says SW16 but Crookham Road is > now SW6. perhaps the postcodes have changed. or a typo. anyway, it's about 2 > miles from here, i might go and visit. > > andy > From rockerq@... Mon Apr 20 22:20:00 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:20:00 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Contract / BBC Written Archives Message-ID: > < we donate the lossless disk versions to the BBC, then intimate our > interest and capabilities based on this staggering collective achievement - > speaking of which, is the end in sight? Rocker, do you need aother cash infusion > from the congregation to pay for disks and postage?>> > (checks files) hmm - It looks to me as though we're OK for funds at present. I vote we donate COPIES of the lossless discs to the BBC! Just in case they have a spring clean and throw them out or wipe them ;-) Currently have two eager rippers awaiting their next batches - though I am so busy at present that it may be a couple of weeks before they go out. There are currently 4 batches of 20 or so tapes out there with the rippers, and I reckon 5 more batches left to do once the current 2 go out - so still a month or two away from completion. << Still no sign of any 83-86 shows turning up in huge numbers, but I'm still hoping...>> A few of those to come soon, and more in the unripped pile! The final stages will be interesting because there are several undated tapes which may contain missing sections from partial shows - we'll need to try to spot which pieces of the jigsaw go where! Thanks to those who have been uploading shows over the past few weeks - have kept up with downloading everything, but not had much time to listen yet! Cheers! Rocker > From slo.coche@... Mon Apr 20 22:47:18 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:47:18 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? Message-ID: Hi. I have a large number of cassettes of complete shows covering a complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus a few shows and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid eighties, also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete tracklists with dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show begins and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by listening to them. These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, where they might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but I am currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to have the whole lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in North Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South Somerset, Bristol, West Wilts, etc. If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I can check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take some photos if there is genuine interest. I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period covered as I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them being unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that they have the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to check properly. Steve Lowman From rockerq@... Mon Apr 20 23:52:16 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:52:16 EDT Subject: [peel] any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? Message-ID: I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was before they digitized the shows. I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! As you may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this should be completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on the "92/93 Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a wait! Cheers! Rocker > < complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus a few shows > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid eighties, > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete tracklists with > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show begins > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by listening to > them. > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, where they > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but I am > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to have the whole > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in North > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South Somerset, > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I can > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take some photos if > there is genuine interest. > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period covered as > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them being > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that they have > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to check > properly. > > Steve Lowman>> From andysmith10@... Tue Apr 21 05:07:52 2009 From: andysmith10@... (Andy) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:07:52 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve, I live in Bournemouth and i would be more then happy to have the tapes and convert them into digital.Please get in contact if it's of any interest to you. From alan@... Tue Apr 21 06:06:31 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:06:31 -0000 Subject: While we're on the subject ..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was listening to a show the other day (John's 60th birthday?) and there was a clip of Lammo in which he mentioned his own collection of Peel tapes. Would it be worth offering to take those off his hands ?? Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" wrote: > > Hi Steve, > I live in Bournemouth and i would be more then happy to have the tapes and convert them into digital.Please get in contact if it's of any interest to you. > From robfleay@... Tue Apr 21 10:12:02 2009 From: robfleay@... (robf) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 9:12:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] While we're on the subject ..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090421091202.ZTCVA.378847.root@...> I know someone (who knows someone) who knows Steve Lamacq quite well... I'll get them to ask him what he has.. ---- alanforduk wrote: > I was listening to a show the other day (John's 60th birthday?) and there was a clip of Lammo in which he mentioned his own collection of Peel tapes. Would it be worth offering to take those off his hands ?? > > Alan > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > I live in Bournemouth and i would be more then happy to have the tapes and convert them into digital.Please get in contact if it's of any interest to you. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From rockerq@... Tue Apr 21 10:53:36 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:53:36 EDT Subject: [peel] any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? Message-ID: > < of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > Of course I meant eBay! Cheers! Rocker > From dr_mango2004@... Tue Apr 21 14:47:55 2009 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:47:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Walters' 50th Birthday Special Message-ID: <43304.14700.qm@...> Thanks for this Ken - love the 90 minute late 80s shows as they're concise and fit nicely into my cycling routine! The dedication before the Nirvana track was a surprise, as it was sent in by a chap in Scotland who I got to know many years later. He's going to be in for a treat when I snip it out and send it to him. Dr M. From colin_ellis@... Tue Apr 21 16:40:51 2009 From: colin_ellis@... (grang354) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:40:51 -0000 Subject: Peel's Contract / BBC Written Archives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The first Peel Acres was in SW6 - a contact from Perfumed Garden days who visited him there in late '67 called it "a grotty basement flat in Fulham".... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Dean" wrote: > > >> http://bit.ly/peelcontract > > is that crookham road in Parsons Green? it says SW16 but Crookham Road is > now SW6. perhaps the postcodes have changed. or a typo. anyway, it's about 2 > miles from here, i might go and visit. > > andy > From ken_garner@... Tue Apr 21 21:19:24 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:19:24 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: agreed on all that mate. Let's get 'em in! You're right, when I last looked at the complete show tape listings on BBC INFAX, there were no more than 20 or 25 shows from any one year of the Peel show (some years have less than 10, and there are very few from before 1980), UNTIL you get to about 97/98/99, when the full force of the new digitalising policy, recording of each show onto CD during transmission, gradually became real practice. So I wonder who it was you spoke to in Archives, Steve? Can you dish the dirt? He may have meant, of course, that they think they have all the session tracks, which is probably true... but then it is only a very few people in BBC Information & Archives who truly understand what they have and have not really got! The really enlightened ones are those who realise how much they are missing... ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! > > The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was before > they digitized the shows. > > I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! As you > may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of late 70s / > early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this should be > completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on the "92/93 > Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a wait! > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > > > > < > complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus a few shows > > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid eighties, > > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete tracklists with > > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show begins > > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by listening to > > them. > > > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, where they > > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but I am > > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to have the whole > > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in North > > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South Somerset, > > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I can > > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take some photos if > > there is genuine interest. > > > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period covered as > > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them being > > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that they have > > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to check > > properly. > > > > Steve Lowman>> > From gordon.will@... Tue Apr 21 22:44:14 2009 From: gordon.will@... (gordonrgw) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:44:14 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't realise the BBCs archive holdings were so poor for radio, you would have expected that they would have been a little more sensitive in this respect after all the TV junkings up to the early 80s, I suppose though you only realise the value of these things in retrospect. I wonder how many of the bands doing sessions recorded the shows they featured in? sophie and peter johnston's website has clips from peels intros to their tracks. gordon --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > agreed on all that mate. Let's get 'em in! > > You're right, when I last looked at the complete show tape listings on BBC INFAX, there were no more than 20 or 25 shows from any one year of the Peel show (some years have less than 10, and there are very few from before 1980), UNTIL you get to about 97/98/99, when the full force of the new digitalising policy, recording of each show onto CD during transmission, gradually became real practice. > > So I wonder who it was you spoke to in Archives, Steve? Can you dish the dirt? He may have meant, of course, that they think they have all the session tracks, which is probably true... but then it is only a very few people in BBC Information & Archives who truly understand what they have and have not really got! The really enlightened ones are those who realise how much they are missing... > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! > > > > The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was before > > they digitized the shows. > > > > I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! As you > > may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of late 70s / > > early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this should be > > completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on the "92/93 > > Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a wait! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > < > > complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus a few shows > > > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid eighties, > > > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete tracklists with > > > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show begins > > > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by listening to > > > them. > > > > > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, where they > > > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but I am > > > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to have the whole > > > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in North > > > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South Somerset, > > > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > > > > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I can > > > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take some photos if > > > there is genuine interest. > > > > > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period covered as > > > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them being > > > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that they have > > > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to check > > > properly. > > > > > > Steve Lowman>> > > > From slo.coche@... Tue Apr 21 22:54:59 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:54:59 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ken It was a chap called Simon Rooks, an archivist at "Information and Archives" with the usual bbc email address if you want to contact him. The main part of his reply message was as follows: John Peel Archives Our policy regarding presenter-led/DJ music programmes is to archive permanently those which feature sessions whether live or recorded specially by the BBC. This was not always the case as you are aware. I can tell you that the BBC does not have a complete archive of every John Peel Show, but I cannot definitively tell you what is missing. There are obviously many private off-air recordings in existence but clearly it's not possible to have an overview of these. One of the many problems was the failure of BBC programmes to deliver recordings to the Archive: there was no policy of enforcement. We have been recovering recordings from internal sources for years (not just Peel of course). We have also recovered some recordings from the Peel estate. I would say that it is highly likely that our collection is virtually complete for the 1990s. The collection would be progressively more sparse the further back we go. We do make efforts to recover recordings not originally archived, but it can be a very labour intensive activity which often does not justify the effort. There is no dedicated effort to do this work and it has to be prioritised against all the other work we have. In short, there is very limited resource available to evaluate, document and digitise offered collections. We do our best to make informed decisions and in this case for example, when and if we have the resource I would favour concentrating on the Peel Estate as being more likely to result in high quality recordings. I had suggested a project to digitise the best available recordings of all the shows, thinking that these may be in the BBC archive. When you think of the potential combined goodwill and financial and voluntary resources of Peel fans, it ought to be possible to fund and staff this relatively easily with the right sort of organisation. I got the impression Mr Rooks had not really got the idea. Steve --- In peel@...m, "ken garner" wrote: > > > agreed on all that mate. Let's get 'em in! > > You're right, when I last looked at the complete show tape listings on BBC INFAX, there were no more than 20 or 25 shows from any one year of the Peel show (some years have less than 10, and there are very few from before 1980), UNTIL you get to about 97/98/99, when the full force of the new digitalising policy, recording of each show onto CD during transmission, gradually became real practice. > > So I wonder who it was you spoke to in Archives, Steve? Can you dish the dirt? He may have meant, of course, that they think they have all the session tracks, which is probably true... but then it is only a very few people in BBC Information & Archives who truly understand what they have and have not really got! The really enlightened ones are those who realise how much they are missing... > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! > > > > The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was before > > they digitized the shows. > > > > I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! As you > > may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of late 70s / > > early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this should be > > completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on the "92/93 > > Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a wait! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > < > > complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus a few shows > > > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid eighties, > > > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete tracklists with > > > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show begins > > > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by listening to > > > them. > > > > > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, where they > > > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but I am > > > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to have the whole > > > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in North > > > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South Somerset, > > > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > > > > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I can > > > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take some photos if > > > there is genuine interest. > > > > > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period covered as > > > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them being > > > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that they have > > > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to check > > > properly. > > > > > > Steve Lowman>> > > > From slo.coche@... Tue Apr 21 23:03:40 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:03:40 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Rocker in Bristol and Andy in Bournemouth. I will delve into the boxes, check out what is really there and how well or otherwise it has survived. I worry about the quality as the tapes must have got very hot up there on summer days over the years. I'll grit my teeth and check out a few of them. I'll get back to you when I have a better idea of what is there. Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! > > The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was before > they digitized the shows. > > I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! As you > may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of late 70s / > early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this should be > completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on the "92/93 > Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a wait! > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > > > > < > complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus a few shows > > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid eighties, > > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete tracklists with > > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show begins > > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by listening to > > them. > > > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, where they > > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but I am > > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to have the whole > > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in North > > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South Somerset, > > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I can > > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take some photos if > > there is genuine interest. > > > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period covered as > > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them being > > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that they have > > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to check > > properly. > > > > Steve Lowman>> > From martinw@... Tue Apr 21 23:49:37 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:49:37 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >agreed on all that mate. Let's get 'em in! > >You're right, when I last looked at the complete show tape listings >on BBC INFAX, there were no more than 20 or 25 shows from any one >year of the Peel show (some years have less than 10, and there are >very few from before 1980), UNTIL you get to about 97/98/99, when >the full force of the new digitalising policy, recording of each >show onto CD during transmission, gradually became real practice. > >So I wonder who it was you spoke to in Archives, Steve? Can you dish >the dirt? He may have meant, of course, that they think they have >all the session tracks, which is probably true... but then it is >only a very few people in BBC Information & Archives who truly >understand what they have and have not really got! The really >enlightened ones are those who realise how much they are missing... > >ken A few thoughts on this There is a very different situation between the preserving of sessions and live performances on the one hand and complete progs on the other as far as the BBC is concerned Sessions and live performances have a use - 6Music relies on them and record companies part own some of them and want to use them Leaving aside documentary series to my knowledge none of the complete music progs on Radio 1 have ever been rebroadcast nor has anybody got any plans to do so. Only the BBC could do it because only they don't have any copyright problems regarding the music played. We have to remember that BBC's purpose in recording these shows was not because of the value of the content or for archival purposes - it was to meet their requirement to have them available for a month or two so they could listen back in case of complaints of libel. They had no other use for them. Persuading people at the BBC that they should keep many thousands hours of recordings that would never be used might have been difficult (remember it was all progs not just Peel). I suspect what the BBC have from the pre-digitised period is just what was hanging about or what individual people secreted away. There were space and finance considerations It's similar to the session situation in the 60s that Ken is very familiar with. Nowadays keeping copies of complete progs is not a problem but it is only fairly recently this has become so I think the BBC's difficulties in this are quite understandable if not very welcome to us martinw From ken_garner@... Wed Apr 22 01:02:05 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:02:05 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Steve I don't know Simon, but his message is just about bang on accurate in every sense apart from that one point about the 90s - from the mid-90s, yes, maybe, but not from the start of the decade. As Martin rightly points out, it was never BBC policy to record complete music shows as a matter of course. They did keep low quality ROTs (records of transmission) for legal reasons (the snoop tapes, so-called, see previous posts) in case of complaints, but only for 3 months, and these were then recycled. These were done by a special engineering department and no producers or archivists ever saw them - unless they had to call one up in the light of a complaint. Before 1996-ish, complete, good quality shows were only ever taped the following ways: (i) producer decided to keep a one-off copy as a sample, what is now called officially 'heritage' sampling, though this was not an official policy again until the mid-90s. Bernie Andrews and John Muir did this quite a bit in the late 60s, Walters not much in the 70s (Jeff Griffin taped and kept all the In Concerts he produced, though, very astutely); (ii) someone in archives decided to record the odd one as an example (iii) the national sound archive (now part of the British Library) taped one as a sample. Unofficially, several BBC staff, incl engineers, would tape some shows from time to time, and these are turning up all the time. Regular members here will remember my news of the Mike Dick collection, some 150 complete peel shows from 79 to 85 recorded internally in high quality, restored by Peel's old mate Chris Lycett at Maida Vale in 07-08. Although Martin is right in one sense that to tape everything - every Radio 1 show, every day! - before the digital era would have been an impossible and thankless (not to mention pointless) task - it is also fair to make the point, as Peel often did (based on a discovery of Walters' back in the late 70s), that, bizarrely, every single weekly edition of Gardeners' Question Time, Start The Week, The Archers and Down Your Way, were recorded and archived for posterity, but no-one then ever dreamed of such a policy for Peel's shows, which we would agree were of equal if not greater cultural importance. Although, like I suspected, the man said he cannot tell you what is missing, nevertheless this COULD now be done: the BBC INFAX catalogue (now closed to the public, regretably) had a pretty reliable search function. You could then add that to the digitalised ones from 96 onwards, the Mike Dick collection, the other donations, etc etc.... and come up with a precise list. The problem is, of course, as he not unreasonably points out, that that would take someone a few weeks or months to pull together, and that is not their job - they are fully stretched simply archiving the current daily output of the BBC! I think this is an area where perhaps we can offer to come in and help, in the future, in the light of that comment in the Guardian article yesterday. All the shows they have - internal, donations, Mike Dick collection, ROTs on DAT from the mid 90s, etc - are or do get digitised, though, as wavs. I was not aware the Peel estate or family had a lot of show tapes. I know John did have some, some on reel to reel, more on cassette. It may be that people are donating them to Sheila, but I had not heard about this. Interesting, though this may be mere speculation on his part... k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > Hi Ken > > It was a chap called Simon Rooks, an archivist at "Information and > Archives" with the usual bbc email address if you want to contact him. > The main part of his reply message was as follows: > John Peel Archives > Our policy regarding presenter-led/DJ music programmes is to archive > permanently those which feature sessions whether live or recorded > specially by the BBC. This was not always the case as you are aware. > > I can tell you that the BBC does not have a complete archive of every > John Peel Show, but I cannot definitively tell you what is missing. > There are obviously many private off-air recordings in existence but > clearly it's not possible to have an overview of these. One of the > many problems was the failure of BBC programmes to deliver recordings to > the Archive: there was no policy of enforcement. We have been > recovering recordings from internal sources for years (not just Peel of > course). We have also recovered some recordings from the Peel estate. > > I would say that it is highly likely that our collection is virtually > complete for the 1990s. The collection would be progressively more > sparse the further back we go. > > We do make efforts to recover recordings not originally archived, but > it can be a very labour intensive activity which often does not justify > the effort. There is no dedicated effort to do this work and it has to > be prioritised against all the other work we have. In short, there is > very limited resource available to evaluate, document and digitise > offered collections. We do our best to make informed decisions and in > this case for example, when and if we have the resource I would favour > concentrating on the Peel Estate as being more likely to result in high > quality recordings. > I had suggested a project to digitise the best available recordings of > all the shows, thinking that these may be in the BBC archive. When you > think of the potential combined goodwill and financial and voluntary > resources of Peel fans, it ought to be possible to fund and staff this > relatively easily with the right sort of organisation. I got the > impression Mr Rooks had not really got the idea. > > Steve > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > > > agreed on all that mate. Let's get 'em in! > > > > You're right, when I last looked at the complete show tape listings on > BBC INFAX, there were no more than 20 or 25 shows from any one year of > the Peel show (some years have less than 10, and there are very few from > before 1980), UNTIL you get to about 97/98/99, when the full force of > the new digitalising policy, recording of each show onto CD during > transmission, gradually became real practice. > > > > So I wonder who it was you spoke to in Archives, Steve? Can you dish > the dirt? He may have meant, of course, that they think they have all > the session tracks, which is probably true... but then it is only a very > few people in BBC Information & Archives who truly understand what they > have and have not really got! The really enlightened ones are those who > realise how much they are missing... > > > > ken > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! > > > > > > The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was > before > > > they digitized the shows. > > > > > > I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! > As you > > > may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of > late 70s / > > > early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this > should be > > > completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on > the "92/93 > > > Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a > wait! > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < covering a > > > > complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus > a few shows > > > > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid > eighties, > > > > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete > tracklists with > > > > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show > begins > > > > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by > listening to > > > > them. > > > > > > > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, > where they > > > > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but > I am > > > > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to > have the whole > > > > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in > North > > > > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South > Somerset, > > > > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > > > > > > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I > can > > > > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take > some photos if > > > > there is genuine interest. > > > > > > > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period > covered as > > > > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them > being > > > > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that > they have > > > > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to > check > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > Steve Lowman>> > > > > > > From r.fewster@... Wed Apr 22 08:41:47 2009 From: r.fewster@... (Richard Fewster) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:41:47 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6974965b0904212341o23fb375bx3bc919746bda6b7@...> Hi Ken, Is this Mike Dick collection ever likely to reach our eager ears? And great news about your collection Steve. We seem to have an unusual proportion of very valuable Steves in this group! Cheers, Rich 2009/4/22 ken garner > > > > Thanks, Steve > > I don't know Simon, but his message is just about bang on accurate in every > sense apart from that one point about the 90s - from the mid-90s, yes, > maybe, but not from the start of the decade. > > As Martin rightly points out, it was never BBC policy to record complete > music shows as a matter of course. They did keep low quality ROTs (records > of transmission) for legal reasons (the snoop tapes, so-called, see previous > posts) in case of complaints, but only for 3 months, and these were then > recycled. These were done by a special engineering department and no > producers or archivists ever saw them - unless they had to call one up in > the light of a complaint. > > Before 1996-ish, complete, good quality shows were only ever taped the > following ways: (i) producer decided to keep a one-off copy as a sample, > what is now called officially 'heritage' sampling, though this was not an > official policy again until the mid-90s. Bernie Andrews and John Muir did > this quite a bit in the late 60s, Walters not much in the 70s (Jeff Griffin > taped and kept all the In Concerts he produced, though, very astutely); (ii) > someone in archives decided to record the odd one as an example (iii) the > national sound archive (now part of the British Library) taped one as a > sample. > > Unofficially, several BBC staff, incl engineers, would tape some shows from > time to time, and these are turning up all the time. Regular members here > will remember my news of the Mike Dick collection, some 150 complete peel > shows from 79 to 85 recorded internally in high quality, restored by Peel's > old mate Chris Lycett at Maida Vale in 07-08. > > Although Martin is right in one sense that to tape everything - every Radio > 1 show, every day! - before the digital era would have been an impossible > and thankless (not to mention pointless) task - it is also fair to make the > point, as Peel often did (based on a discovery of Walters' back in the late > 70s), that, bizarrely, every single weekly edition of Gardeners' Question > Time, Start The Week, The Archers and Down Your Way, were recorded and > archived for posterity, but no-one then ever dreamed of such a policy for > Peel's shows, which we would agree were of equal if not greater cultural > importance. > > Although, like I suspected, the man said he cannot tell you what is > missing, nevertheless this COULD now be done: the BBC INFAX catalogue (now > closed to the public, regretably) had a pretty reliable search function. You > could then add that to the digitalised ones from 96 onwards, the Mike Dick > collection, the other donations, etc etc.... and come up with a precise > list. The problem is, of course, as he not unreasonably points out, that > that would take someone a few weeks or months to pull together, and that is > not their job - they are fully stretched simply archiving the current daily > output of the BBC! I think this is an area where perhaps we can offer to > come in and help, in the future, in the light of that comment in the > Guardian article yesterday. > > All the shows they have - internal, donations, Mike Dick collection, ROTs > on DAT from the mid 90s, etc - are or do get digitised, though, as wavs. > > I was not aware the Peel estate or family had a lot of show tapes. I know > John did have some, some on reel to reel, more on cassette. It may be that > people are donating them to Sheila, but I had not heard about this. > Interesting, though this may be mere speculation on his part... > > k > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , > "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > > > Hi Ken > > > > It was a chap called Simon Rooks, an archivist at "Information and > > Archives" with the usual bbc email address if you want to contact him. > > The main part of his reply message was as follows: > > John Peel Archives > > > Our policy regarding presenter-led/DJ music programmes is to archive > > permanently those which feature sessions whether live or recorded > > specially by the BBC. This was not always the case as you are aware. > > > > I can tell you that the BBC does not have a complete archive of every > > John Peel Show, but I cannot definitively tell you what is missing. > > There are obviously many private off-air recordings in existence but > > clearly it's not possible to have an overview of these. One of the > > many problems was the failure of BBC programmes to deliver recordings to > > the Archive: there was no policy of enforcement. We have been > > recovering recordings from internal sources for years (not just Peel of > > course). We have also recovered some recordings from the Peel estate. > > > > I would say that it is highly likely that our collection is virtually > > complete for the 1990s. The collection would be progressively more > > sparse the further back we go. > > > > We do make efforts to recover recordings not originally archived, but > > it can be a very labour intensive activity which often does not justify > > the effort. There is no dedicated effort to do this work and it has to > > be prioritised against all the other work we have. In short, there is > > very limited resource available to evaluate, document and digitise > > offered collections. We do our best to make informed decisions and in > > this case for example, when and if we have the resource I would favour > > concentrating on the Peel Estate as being more likely to result in high > > quality recordings. > > I had suggested a project to digitise the best available recordings of > > all the shows, thinking that these may be in the BBC archive. When you > > think of the potential combined goodwill and financial and voluntary > > resources of Peel fans, it ought to be possible to fund and staff this > > relatively easily with the right sort of organisation. I got the > > impression Mr Rooks had not really got the idea. > > > > Steve > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "ken garner" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > agreed on all that mate. Let's get 'em in! > > > > > > You're right, when I last looked at the complete show tape listings on > > BBC INFAX, there were no more than 20 or 25 shows from any one year of > > the Peel show (some years have less than 10, and there are very few from > > before 1980), UNTIL you get to about 97/98/99, when the full force of > > the new digitalising policy, recording of each show onto CD during > > transmission, gradually became real practice. > > > > > > So I wonder who it was you spoke to in Archives, Steve? Can you dish > > the dirt? He may have meant, of course, that they think they have all > > the session tracks, which is probably true... but then it is only a very > > few people in BBC Information & Archives who truly understand what they > > have and have not really got! The really enlightened ones are those who > > realise how much they are missing... > > > > > > ken > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > > I think we in this group would be very interested in those tapes! > > > > > > > > The BBC probably have very little of this period saved, as it was > > before > > > > they digitized the shows. > > > > > > > > I am in Bristol, and would be happy for you to deliver them to me! > > As you > > > > may have gathered I am organizing the ripping of the "400 Box" of > > late 70s / > > > > early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace - this > > should be > > > > completed sometime over the summer - so I would be happy to take on > > the "92/93 > > > > Box", provided no-one else volunteers, and you don't mind a bit of a > > wait! > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > covering a > > > > > complete period of more than one year from 1992 through 1993, plus > > a few shows > > > > > and selected tracks with partial links from the early and mid > > eighties, > > > > > also including some Kershaw shows. The tapes include complete > > tracklists with > > > > > dodgy spellings. It is not clear on the tracklists where one show > > begins > > > > > and the next one ends, but possible to work out hopefully by > > listening to > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > These tapes have been stored a long time in boxes in an attic, > > where they > > > > > might have deteriorated. I hardly dare try to listen to them, but > > I am > > > > > currently clearing out the attic. If anyone may be interested to > > have the whole > > > > > lot or some of the collection, it is free to a good home. I'm in > > North > > > > > Dorset, and I'm willing to deliver free within Dorset, South > > Somerset, > > > > > Bristol, West Wilts, etc. > > > > > > > > > > If more detailed info is required, please ask for further info. I > > can > > > > > check the quality, the actual range of dates, and perhaps take > > some photos if > > > > > there is genuine interest. > > > > > > > > > > I wrote to the BBC archive to ask whether they have this period > > covered as > > > > > I would not like to dump the tapes if there was any chance of them > > being > > > > > unique, and the guy replied that he thought it highly likely that > > they have > > > > > the whole nineties covered, but obviously couldn't be bothered to > > check > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > Steve Lowman>> > > > > > > > > > > > > From martinw@... Wed Apr 22 10:29:18 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:29:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 00:02 22/04/2009, Ken wrote: >Although Martin is right in one sense that to tape everything - >every Radio 1 show, every day! - before the digital era would have >been an impossible and thankless (not to mention pointless) task - >it is also fair to make the point, as Peel often did (based on a >discovery of Walters' back in the late 70s), that, bizarrely, every >single weekly edition of Gardeners' Question Time, Start The Week, >The Archers and Down Your Way, were recorded and archived for >posterity, but no-one then ever dreamed of such a policy for Peel's >shows, which we would agree were of equal if not greater cultural importance. The difference between those sorts of shows and Peels was not cultural. It was that the shows were non-music so the BBC held the copyright to the whole show whereas music shows like Peels' contained music that was owned by other people. Keeping the non-music shows only was the easy way out since they didn't have to approach the copyright issues whilst at the same feeling they were doing their duty for posterity martinw From paul.hayward@... Wed Apr 22 13:20:54 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:20:54 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so > before you die. > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch From saipanda@... Wed Apr 22 18:12:40 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:12:40 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Paul, Most shortcomings on the Wiki navigation are down to me, so sorry you're having trouble. Apologies to anyone else who's had similar problems. In this case, there's a couple of ways of going about things: 1. To search for the show being referred to, which includes "Ricky's Hand", input those two words into the Search box you can see at the top of the menu on the left of every page. This comes up with the following page, with one result: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=ricky%27s+hand&go=1 Click on the 07 April 1980 link, which will take you to the date page with details of the show in question, file download link, etc. 2. More generally, to hunt down the latest 400 Box shows shared, go to the main 400 Box page (you can access this via the Shows link on the left side menu of every page): http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box At the top of the page, you'll see a Contents section. Click on 3 (Shows in order shared). This goes from the earliest ones by Rocker to the latest (by Bill, I think) in what should be roughly the correct order. Latest ones are at the bottom. Now up to 146 in varying states of completeness. Hope this all seems clear enough. I'm kind of working on a more extensive (and useful) User's guide, so hope to make a few things a bit clearer in that before too long. Well, sometime anyway. If anyone has any suggestions for this, please get in touch off-list. Once again, many thanks to all the 400 Box rippers and Rocker for al the hard work, plus all those who have helped out with Wiki tracklistings, Ken, Steve in Korea, Bill, etc, etc (imagine an Oscar speech)... Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dr_haywire" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. > > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so > > before you die. > > > > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch > From saipanda@... Wed Apr 22 20:16:44 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:16:44 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thinking about this, perhaps it would be clearer what is in the "latest batch" if I put the ripper's initials alongside the show on the main 400 Box page, as I've done on the separate 400 Box tapes page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box_%28tapes%29 Everything used to be on the same page originally, but it just got to big. Should be easy enough to work it all out by cross-referencing the two pages. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > Most shortcomings on the Wiki navigation are down to me, so sorry you're having trouble. Apologies to anyone else who's had similar problems. > > In this case, there's a couple of ways of going about things: > > 1. To search for the show being referred to, which includes "Ricky's Hand", input those two words into the Search box you can see at the top of the menu on the left of every page. This comes up with the following page, with one result: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=ricky%27s+hand&go=1 > > Click on the 07 April 1980 link, which will take you to the date page with details of the show in question, file download link, etc. > > 2. More generally, to hunt down the latest 400 Box shows shared, go to the main 400 Box page (you can access this via the Shows link on the left side menu of every page): > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box > > At the top of the page, you'll see a Contents section. Click on 3 (Shows in order shared). This goes from the earliest ones by Rocker to the latest (by Bill, I think) in what should be roughly the correct order. Latest ones are at the bottom. Now up to 146 in varying states of completeness. > > Hope this all seems clear enough. I'm kind of working on a more extensive (and useful) User's guide, so hope to make a few things a bit clearer in that before too long. Well, sometime anyway. If anyone has any suggestions for this, please get in touch off-list. > > Once again, many thanks to all the 400 Box rippers and Rocker for al the hard work, plus all those who have helped out with Wiki tracklistings, Ken, Steve in Korea, Bill, etc, etc (imagine an Oscar speech)... > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dr_haywire" wrote: > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. > > > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so > > > before you die. > > > > > > > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch > > > From unity.gain@... Wed Apr 22 21:42:53 2009 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:42:53 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A brief word on my portion of The Box. I’ve had a very busy period at work recently, so I’ve not even done much ripping to .flac, let alone .mp3. It’s my intention to do the .mp3 part once I’ve done all the .flacs, which will allow me to set up some bulk processing and keep things organised at my end. This probably means waiting for a (relatively) slack period at work, which will most likely be the early part of the Summer. So, sorry to keep you all waiting, but hopefully I’ll be able give you something to put on your iPods for your holidays, Cheers Roger On 22/04/2009 19:16, "saipanda" wrote: > > > > > > Thinking about this, perhaps it would be clearer what is in the "latest batch" > if I put the ripper's initials alongside the show on the main 400 Box page, as > I've done on the separate 400 Box tapes page: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box_%28tapes%29 > > Everything used to be on the same page originally, but it just got to big. > Should be easy enough to work it all out by cross-referencing the two pages. > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "saipanda" > wrote: >> > >> > Hi Paul, >> > >> > Most shortcomings on the Wiki navigation are down to me, so sorry you're >> having trouble. Apologies to anyone else who's had similar problems. >> > >> > In this case, there's a couple of ways of going about things: >> > >> > 1. To search for the show being referred to, which includes "Ricky's Hand", >> input those two words into the Search box you can see at the top of the menu >> on the left of every page. This comes up with the following page, with one >> result: >> > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=ricky%27s+hand&go=1 >> > >> > Click on the 07 April 1980 link, which will take you to the date page with >> details of the show in question, file download link, etc. >> > >> > 2. More generally, to hunt down the latest 400 Box shows shared, go to the >> main 400 Box page (you can access this via the Shows link on the left side >> menu of every page): >> > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box >> > >> > At the top of the page, you'll see a Contents section. Click on 3 (Shows in >> order shared). This goes from the earliest ones by Rocker to the latest (by >> Bill, I think) in what should be roughly the correct order. Latest ones are >> at the bottom. Now up to 146 in varying states of completeness. >> > >> > Hope this all seems clear enough. I'm kind of working on a more extensive >> (and useful) User's guide, so hope to make a few things a bit clearer in that >> before too long. Well, sometime anyway. If anyone has any suggestions for >> this, please get in touch off-list. >> > >> > Once again, many thanks to all the 400 Box rippers and Rocker for al the >> hard work, plus all those who have helped out with Wiki tracklistings, Ken, >> Steve in Korea, Bill, etc, etc (imagine an Oscar speech)... >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Steve W >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "dr_haywire" >> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , >>> "thebarguest" wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. >>>> > > > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so >>>> > > > before you die. >>>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been >>> through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or >>> how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch >>> > > >> > > > > > >> From paul.hayward@... Wed Apr 22 13:19:40 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:19:40 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so > before you die. > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch From saipanda@... Thu Apr 23 06:05:07 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:05:07 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Further to yesterday, for easy reference I've added the rippers' initials next to the shows on the main 400 Box page on the Wiki, which should show roughly where we are in terms of batches: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box#Shows_in_order_shared Hope this seems clear enough. Apologies for any mistakes. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Thinking about this, perhaps it would be clearer what is in the "latest batch" if I put the ripper's initials alongside the show on the main 400 Box page, as I've done on the separate 400 Box tapes page: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box_%28tapes%29 > > Everything used to be on the same page originally, but it just got to big. Should be easy enough to work it all out by cross-referencing the two pages. > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > Most shortcomings on the Wiki navigation are down to me, so sorry you're having trouble. Apologies to anyone else who's had similar problems. > > > > In this case, there's a couple of ways of going about things: > > > > 1. To search for the show being referred to, which includes "Ricky's Hand", input those two words into the Search box you can see at the top of the menu on the left of every page. This comes up with the following page, with one result: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=ricky%27s+hand&go=1 > > > > Click on the 07 April 1980 link, which will take you to the date page with details of the show in question, file download link, etc. > > > > 2. More generally, to hunt down the latest 400 Box shows shared, go to the main 400 Box page (you can access this via the Shows link on the left side menu of every page): > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box > > > > At the top of the page, you'll see a Contents section. Click on 3 (Shows in order shared). This goes from the earliest ones by Rocker to the latest (by Bill, I think) in what should be roughly the correct order. Latest ones are at the bottom. Now up to 146 in varying states of completeness. > > > > Hope this all seems clear enough. I'm kind of working on a more extensive (and useful) User's guide, so hope to make a few things a bit clearer in that before too long. Well, sometime anyway. If anyone has any suggestions for this, please get in touch off-list. > > > > Once again, many thanks to all the 400 Box rippers and Rocker for al the hard work, plus all those who have helped out with Wiki tracklistings, Ken, Steve in Korea, Bill, etc, etc (imagine an Oscar speech)... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve W > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dr_haywire" wrote: > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > > > > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. > > > > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so > > > > before you die. > > > > > > > > > > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch > > > > > > From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Thu Apr 23 14:29:41 2009 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (stephen phythian) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:29:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtwZWVsXSBBdCBMYXN0LCBJdOKAmXMgVGhlIEdvb2QgRnJpZGF5IFNo?= =?utf-8?B?b3c=?= Message-ID: <511546.56073.qm@...> I realise that thanks for this show is long overdue but i've only just got round to listening to it. What a treat. I remember this one the most as I actually went out and bought (and still own) The Fastbacks single played at the start. I also love the fact that he plays 'Quoth' by Polygon Window. If you listen carefully you can hear the sound of thousands of radios in offices and factories being turned off! Superb! Thanks again Ken. spp --- On Thu, 19/3/09, ken garner wrote: From: ken garner Subject: [peel] At Last, It’s The Good Friday Show To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 19 March, 2009, 11:43 PM Here, finally, is the last of Peel's five lunchtime shows from April 1993, and to my astonishment and I hope your delight, I can present you with the complete show minus only a few seconds. Until a few days ago, I was convinced I only had two-thirds of it, because one of my C90 sides was unlabelled on the box, and I assumed I had stopped taping about 35 minutes from the end. But when I put the tape on, I noticed I had actually labelled the B side of the tape, but not the box, so I had most of it. The context here was, as Peel announced the previous day, that for the Good Friday bank holiday of 9/4/93, his show would run, not from 12.45-3pm, but 1pm-3.30pm instead. So my tape side "a" begins a few seconds after 1pm – missed the opening – my old single deck autoreverse which I had in 93 flips over neatly from "a" to "b" at about 1.48pm; then I had to do a quick tape change at about 2.35pm (which means I lost the final seconds of the REM fadeout and Peel's back announce); and part "c" must have run until, or so I guessed, about 3.20pm. So I was also missing the last ten minutes. So I went trawling through those four mis-dated fragments from these shows in the 17-DVD Torrent previously identified by others here, to see by any chance what I might find. The files are called "_RADIO 1 02 06 93 JOHN PEEL" and thereafter in the same format but dated "09 06" "16 06" and "23 06". "02 06" and "09 06" are essentially unedited 45 minute sections from the Thursday 8/4/93 show. But, miracle of miracles, what did I find in the other two? "16 06" continues with the Thursday show, then jumps to just before the Friday show begins, with Simon Bates being his usual modest self, and a touching, sincere thank you from John (not). I have extracted this section as a new short mp3 file, including the first number of Peel's show complete to prove the continuity, so there is an overlap with my own part "a". And then what do we find half way through "23 06", but the complete ending of the Good Friday show, unedited in the last 15 minutes! (after which it jumps back to fragments from earlier in the show). So I have created a new 9 minute long Mp3 file of the ending, with again an overlap from my own recording to prove the continuity. So we have it all. I have not tried to connect them all up and edit down, partly because the Torrent files are at an appalling low quality rip, and partly to be able to demonstrate by the overlaps that nothing is missing. Taking away the overlaps and gaps, I have calculated these recordings' total duration comes to 150' 45", pretty close for a scheduled 2.5 hr show. And as I hint above, for this final show Peel rediscovers his form of the start of the week, but is also clearly demob happy and frankly taking the piss in many links, somehow knowing he was never going to be asked to do this again. His comments on the George Michael and Queen record are priceless. If the original source of the Torrent fragments is the collection of someone here gathered, perhaps a higher quality rip and eventual reconstruction of the whole to a decent level might be possible one day. But for now, enjoy! ken (ps. The timings and show sections indicated below are more accurate than my approximations when I named the files.) Peel's last lunchtime INTRO (from torrent) 1993-04-09 (3' 16") http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= 8WXWG5WV Peel at lunchtime #4, 1993-04-09a, 1.01-1.48pm (47' 09") http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= P626ISZD Peel's last lunchtime #5, 1993-04-09b 1.48-2.35pm (46' 56") http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= RE8TIO79 Peel's last lunchtime #5, 1993-04-09c, 2.35-3.22pm (47' 05") http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= N3JE8288 Peel's last lunchtime #5, from TORRENT 1993-04-09d 3.21-3.30pm (9' 39") http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= 5JS0GN2H From paul.hayward@... Thu Apr 23 17:41:13 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:41:13 -0000 Subject: Unusual request on the Peel show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mant thanks for this cracked it. Thanks again this is superb --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > Most shortcomings on the Wiki navigation are down to me, so sorry you're having trouble. Apologies to anyone else who's had similar problems. > > In this case, there's a couple of ways of going about things: > > 1. To search for the show being referred to, which includes "Ricky's Hand", input those two words into the Search box you can see at the top of the menu on the left of every page. This comes up with the following page, with one result: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=ricky%27s+hand&go=1 > > Click on the 07 April 1980 link, which will take you to the date page with details of the show in question, file download link, etc. > > 2. More generally, to hunt down the latest 400 Box shows shared, go to the main 400 Box page (you can access this via the Shows link on the left side menu of every page): > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box > > At the top of the page, you'll see a Contents section. Click on 3 (Shows in order shared). This goes from the earliest ones by Rocker to the latest (by Bill, I think) in what should be roughly the correct order. Latest ones are at the bottom. Now up to 146 in varying states of completeness. > > Hope this all seems clear enough. I'm kind of working on a more extensive (and useful) User's guide, so hope to make a few things a bit clearer in that before too long. Well, sometime anyway. If anyone has any suggestions for this, please get in touch off-list. > > Once again, many thanks to all the 400 Box rippers and Rocker for al the hard work, plus all those who have helped out with Wiki tracklistings, Ken, Steve in Korea, Bill, etc, etc (imagine an Oscar speech)... > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dr_haywire" wrote: > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > > > I've been listening to the latest 400Box batch - excellent stuff. > > > If anyone hasn't heard "Ricky's Hand" by Fad Gadget, you must do so > > > before you die. > > > > > > > Forgive me if I'm missing something completely obvious. I've been through the Wiki pages assuming I'm being technically deficient but where or how would a cove be able to listen to the latest 400 box batch > > > From alan@... Thu Apr 23 21:32:45 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:32:45 -0000 Subject: Wiki thanks (yet again) Message-ID: Humungous thanks to the person, probably called Steve, who created the Wiki entry for the show I posted last week (1999-02-10). However ... you have listed the last 3 tracks as 'not recorded', but on here http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/06.txt the 2nd-last and 3rd-last tracks are preceded with a '-' which, according to here http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/notes.html means that the tracks were listed on ceefax but not actually played. This would mean that only the last track was omitted, which is a great shame because I would like to hear a track called Ring A Duck by The Disco Duck. Anyone familiar with it? Cheers Alan From slo.coche@... Fri Apr 24 00:02:32 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:02:32 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Progress report: I listened to bits of a few of the tapes, and I am amazed and I have to admit a bit tearful and excited to find them in pretty much perfect condition. They are recorded in mono. Without extremely strong reception, the sound on FM in stereo was always marred by a pronounced "stereo hiss", so I avoided this by making almost all my recordings in mono. Each cassette has a complete track list, plus month and year. Dance tracks are marked with a little cross, and very fast dance tracks have two little crosses; I was into making dance compilations for parties! And I made a compilation of the very fastest dance tracks from the whole of 1992, or was it 1993? I think I've lost that compilation, sadly. Some cassettes have both Peel and Kershaw shows; cassettes are identified as in "JP Sept 92" OR "JP AK Aug Sept 92". Despite these helpful identifying notes, it is quite difficult to work out the sequence of sides. I used to record a side, and then put in another cassette. This avoided the problem of having to rewind to the beginning of the second side of a cassette. It means the shows are all almost complete, but creates something of a task to work out the sequence of sides. I hope it is mostly clear in the recordings when a show begins and ends, but I need to check this out more. I note that you guys paid some bloke several hundred pounds for a collection of cassettes a while ago. Well, I'm not greedy but I am very poor! I am impressed that some of you are prepared to put so much time and effort into digitising the shows. Does it mean you are as crazy as I was when I made all those recordings? ;) I hope that one day it will be possible to create a searchable index of all the shows, so that listeners can listen to shows from a particular date, find particular sessions or tracks, and even perhaps find quotes from Peel talking about particular subjects, etc. All this would obviously take a lot of work and expertise, and of course the main priority is to get the source material down in a durable, high-quality format before it turns into goo or dust. Being occupied with poverty, career planning, education, etc., I may not have a lot of time to give on this project right now, but if it could involve the possibility to learn or help develop databases, etc. then I may be interested to help and perhaps also do some of the donkey work. I guess I should say that I probably want to retain ownership of my cassettes (unless you want to make me an offer I can't refuse!), but I'm very happy to let one or two of you guys have them for the purposes of digitising, etc., and if you can store them in better conditions than me, then I'd be grateful for you to keep them until I get rich enough to afford a big house with a nice archive room! Or maybe they should go to a museum or other archive if they are worth keeping good. I still haven't assessed the exact range of dates of my tapes. I'll do that very soon and let you know exactly what is there. All the best Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > < > of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > > > Of course I meant eBay! > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Apr 24 03:44:54 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:44:54 -0000 Subject: Wiki thanks (yet again) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Alan Yes, I'm definitely called Steve (getting to be a pretty common name on here), and I'm glad you brought those notes to my attention, because it's the first time I've ever seen them!! God do I feel foolish. I've corrected the error, and in view of the title to the last track, I'm tempted to do a DLT style 'quack quack oops.' But I won't. Thanks for the compliment, and also for pointing this out. Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "alanforduk" wrote: > > Humungous thanks to the person, probably called Steve, who created the Wiki entry for the show I posted last week (1999-02-10). > > However ... you have listed the last 3 tracks as 'not recorded', but on here > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/06.txt > > the 2nd-last and 3rd-last tracks are preceded with a '-' which, according to here > > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/notes.html > > means that the tracks were listed on ceefax but not actually played. > This would mean that only the last track was omitted, which is a great shame because I would like to hear a track called Ring A Duck by The Disco Duck. Anyone familiar with it? > > > Cheers > > Alan > From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Apr 24 04:19:07 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:19:07 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve (from another Steve) I read your message with great interest, and I would like to comment on several points you make. Firstly, your collection sounds extremely exciting. I am currently in the middle of a similar project in conjunction with the most excellent Colin called the 500 Box (because there are around 500 tapes in it-no prizes for my original name). Like you, he recorded many of the shows in mono due to reception difficulties (I assume), but nobody seems to have a problem with that (well, no-one's complained yet). These shows are not otherwise available, and as one person commented, it's better to have good mono than poor stereo. Secondly, I share your point about poverty, since I was made redundant this year in a foreign country (Korea) due to a big-headed 'employer' with no business sense (but let's not go there). On the other hand, the 400 Box was advertised as a non-profit enterprise: the money made from the tapes was donated to charity. If profit is your motive on this (and I don't think anybody can blame you for that), I'm sure there are others on this mailing list far more well-qualified than me to point you in the right direction. Thirdly, the searchable index you envisage is in fact already under way: if you go to the main page of the Peel Wiki (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page), you'll see something along the lines of what you mean. Another Steve (from Japan!) and I are the admin team for this, and we'll be more than happy to deal with any enquiries you have about it, and delighted to receive any contributions you wish to make (everybody is welcome). Finally, I'm sure we are all eager to help with your project, and the issue with the tape sides and identifying programmes is not problematic. After ripping, any anomalies can be sorted out during track listing. I sincerely hope that this can be pursued, and look forward to hearing from you again! All the best Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > Progress report: > > I listened to bits of a few of the tapes, and I am amazed and I have to admit a bit tearful and excited to find them in pretty much perfect condition. They are recorded in mono. Without extremely strong reception, the sound on FM in stereo was always marred by a pronounced "stereo hiss", so I avoided this by making almost all my recordings in mono. Each cassette has a complete track list, plus month and year. Dance tracks are marked with a little cross, and very fast dance tracks have two little crosses; I was into making dance compilations for parties! And I made a compilation of the very fastest dance tracks from the whole of 1992, or was it 1993? I think I've lost that compilation, sadly. Some cassettes have both Peel and Kershaw shows; cassettes are identified as in "JP Sept 92" OR "JP AK Aug Sept 92". Despite these helpful identifying notes, it is quite difficult to work out the sequence of sides. I used to record a side, and then put in another cassette. This avoided the problem of having to rewind to the beginning of the second side of a cassette. It means the shows are all almost complete, but creates something of a task to work out the sequence of sides. I hope it is mostly clear in the recordings when a show begins and ends, but I need to check this out more. > > I note that you guys paid some bloke several hundred pounds for a collection of cassettes a while ago. Well, I'm not greedy but I am very poor! I am impressed that some of you are prepared to put so much time and effort into digitising the shows. Does it mean you are as crazy as I was when I made all those recordings? ;) > > I hope that one day it will be possible to create a searchable index of all the shows, so that listeners can listen to shows from a particular date, find particular sessions or tracks, and even perhaps find quotes from Peel talking about particular subjects, etc. All this would obviously take a lot of work and expertise, and of course the main priority is to get the source material down in a durable, high-quality format before it turns into goo or dust. > > Being occupied with poverty, career planning, education, etc., I may not have a lot of time to give on this project right now, but if it could involve the possibility to learn or help develop databases, etc. then I may be interested to help and perhaps also do some of the donkey work. > > I guess I should say that I probably want to retain ownership of my cassettes (unless you want to make me an offer I can't refuse!), but I'm very happy to let one or two of you guys have them for the purposes of digitising, etc., and if you can store them in better conditions than me, then I'd be grateful for you to keep them until I get rich enough to afford a big house with a nice archive room! Or maybe they should go to a museum or other archive if they are worth keeping good. > > I still haven't assessed the exact range of dates of my tapes. I'll do that very soon and let you know exactly what is there. > > All the best > > Steve > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > < > > of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > > > > > Of course I meant eBay! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Rocker > > > > > > From thebarguest@... Fri Apr 24 21:27:54 2009 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:27:54 -0000 Subject: Peel Gold Message-ID: I think I've found the pot of aural gold at the end (or middle) of the Peel rainbow ! It's in the form of the 400Box shows from May 1980. Peely loves 'Bankrobber' by The Clash, and plays it loads.. He really likes the new Bill Nelson single, 'Do You Dream in Colour' and plays it several times. He mentions that he had a dream in colour of himself and Walters going to Dallas ! There's also stuff from Magazine, Teardrop Explodes and Echo & Bunnymen. The quality of these rips is very good indeed, as well ! Thanks again to Bill, Rocker et al (whoever he is) ....... From slo.coche@... Fri Apr 24 20:36:46 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:36:46 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It looks like there are somewhere about 270 cassettes (mostly Phillips), possibly more. They seem to start somewhere around May 1992 and go possibly to October 1993. I definitely had a project to record a complete year, and I remember that I did succeed in that, so I hope they are all there. I'll try to sort them out a bit more and get more detail. I hope I may still find a few more good ones. S --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Hi Steve (from another Steve) > > I read your message with great interest, and I would like to comment on several points you make. > Firstly, your collection sounds extremely exciting. I am currently in the middle of a similar project in conjunction with the most excellent Colin called the 500 Box (because there are around 500 tapes in it-no prizes for my original name). Like you, he recorded many of the shows in mono due to reception difficulties (I assume), but nobody seems to have a problem with that (well, no-one's complained yet). These shows are not otherwise available, and as one person commented, it's better to have good mono than poor stereo. > Secondly, I share your point about poverty, since I was made redundant this year in a foreign country (Korea) due to a big-headed 'employer' with no business sense (but let's not go there). On the other hand, the 400 Box was advertised as a non-profit enterprise: the money made from the tapes was donated to charity. If profit is your motive on this (and I don't think anybody can blame you for that), I'm sure there are others on this mailing list far more well-qualified than me to point you in the right direction. > Thirdly, the searchable index you envisage is in fact already under way: if you go to the main page of the Peel Wiki (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page), you'll see something along the lines of what you mean. Another Steve (from Japan!) and I are the admin team for this, and we'll be more than happy to deal with any enquiries you have about it, and delighted to receive any contributions you wish to make (everybody is welcome). > Finally, I'm sure we are all eager to help with your project, and the issue with the tape sides and identifying programmes is not problematic. After ripping, any anomalies can be sorted out during track listing. I sincerely hope that this can be pursued, and look forward to hearing from you again! > > All the best > Steve [TK] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > > > Progress report: > > > > I listened to bits of a few of the tapes, and I am amazed and I have to admit a bit tearful and excited to find them in pretty much perfect condition. They are recorded in mono. Without extremely strong reception, the sound on FM in stereo was always marred by a pronounced "stereo hiss", so I avoided this by making almost all my recordings in mono. Each cassette has a complete track list, plus month and year. Dance tracks are marked with a little cross, and very fast dance tracks have two little crosses; I was into making dance compilations for parties! And I made a compilation of the very fastest dance tracks from the whole of 1992, or was it 1993? I think I've lost that compilation, sadly. Some cassettes have both Peel and Kershaw shows; cassettes are identified as in "JP Sept 92" OR "JP AK Aug Sept 92". Despite these helpful identifying notes, it is quite difficult to work out the sequence of sides. I used to record a side, and then put in another cassette. This avoided the problem of having to rewind to the beginning of the second side of a cassette. It means the shows are all almost complete, but creates something of a task to work out the sequence of sides. I hope it is mostly clear in the recordings when a show begins and ends, but I need to check this out more. > > > > I note that you guys paid some bloke several hundred pounds for a collection of cassettes a while ago. Well, I'm not greedy but I am very poor! I am impressed that some of you are prepared to put so much time and effort into digitising the shows. Does it mean you are as crazy as I was when I made all those recordings? ;) > > > > I hope that one day it will be possible to create a searchable index of all the shows, so that listeners can listen to shows from a particular date, find particular sessions or tracks, and even perhaps find quotes from Peel talking about particular subjects, etc. All this would obviously take a lot of work and expertise, and of course the main priority is to get the source material down in a durable, high-quality format before it turns into goo or dust. > > > > Being occupied with poverty, career planning, education, etc., I may not have a lot of time to give on this project right now, but if it could involve the possibility to learn or help develop databases, etc. then I may be interested to help and perhaps also do some of the donkey work. > > > > I guess I should say that I probably want to retain ownership of my cassettes (unless you want to make me an offer I can't refuse!), but I'm very happy to let one or two of you guys have them for the purposes of digitising, etc., and if you can store them in better conditions than me, then I'd be grateful for you to keep them until I get rich enough to afford a big house with a nice archive room! Or maybe they should go to a museum or other archive if they are worth keeping good. > > > > I still haven't assessed the exact range of dates of my tapes. I'll do that very soon and let you know exactly what is there. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > < > > > of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > > > > > > > Of course I meant eBay! > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > From ken_garner@... Fri Apr 24 23:48:34 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:48:34 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Seeing as you want to keep the original tapes, which we can all understand, it's clear you're not after the money. If you want help with the ripping I would recommend taking up rocker or others from the west country's offer(s) - loan them for ripping, then you get them back, seems a good plan to me. In dating your tapes, you will have to listen to up to 15-18 minutes of each side - in the 3 hour shows of that year, that amount of time should normally include at least one session track, and then using my book's index you should be able to connect the sections together (if recent discoveries in my own collection are any model, I am imagining you have perhaps 2 x a C90 or 4 x 45 minute sides per show). It will be a long job, though, with that many. Let the team help! ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > It looks like there are somewhere about 270 cassettes (mostly Phillips), possibly more. They seem to start somewhere around May 1992 and go possibly to October 1993. I definitely had a project to record a complete year, and I remember that I did succeed in that, so I hope they are all there. I'll try to sort them out a bit more and get more detail. I hope I may still find a few more good ones. > > S > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > Hi Steve (from another Steve) > > > > I read your message with great interest, and I would like to comment on several points you make. > > Firstly, your collection sounds extremely exciting. I am currently in the middle of a similar project in conjunction with the most excellent Colin called the 500 Box (because there are around 500 tapes in it-no prizes for my original name). Like you, he recorded many of the shows in mono due to reception difficulties (I assume), but nobody seems to have a problem with that (well, no-one's complained yet). These shows are not otherwise available, and as one person commented, it's better to have good mono than poor stereo. > > Secondly, I share your point about poverty, since I was made redundant this year in a foreign country (Korea) due to a big-headed 'employer' with no business sense (but let's not go there). On the other hand, the 400 Box was advertised as a non-profit enterprise: the money made from the tapes was donated to charity. If profit is your motive on this (and I don't think anybody can blame you for that), I'm sure there are others on this mailing list far more well-qualified than me to point you in the right direction. > > Thirdly, the searchable index you envisage is in fact already under way: if you go to the main page of the Peel Wiki (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page), you'll see something along the lines of what you mean. Another Steve (from Japan!) and I are the admin team for this, and we'll be more than happy to deal with any enquiries you have about it, and delighted to receive any contributions you wish to make (everybody is welcome). > > Finally, I'm sure we are all eager to help with your project, and the issue with the tape sides and identifying programmes is not problematic. After ripping, any anomalies can be sorted out during track listing. I sincerely hope that this can be pursued, and look forward to hearing from you again! > > > > All the best > > Steve [TK] > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > > > > > Progress report: > > > > > > I listened to bits of a few of the tapes, and I am amazed and I have to admit a bit tearful and excited to find them in pretty much perfect condition. They are recorded in mono. Without extremely strong reception, the sound on FM in stereo was always marred by a pronounced "stereo hiss", so I avoided this by making almost all my recordings in mono. Each cassette has a complete track list, plus month and year. Dance tracks are marked with a little cross, and very fast dance tracks have two little crosses; I was into making dance compilations for parties! And I made a compilation of the very fastest dance tracks from the whole of 1992, or was it 1993? I think I've lost that compilation, sadly. Some cassettes have both Peel and Kershaw shows; cassettes are identified as in "JP Sept 92" OR "JP AK Aug Sept 92". Despite these helpful identifying notes, it is quite difficult to work out the sequence of sides. I used to record a side, and then put in another cassette. This avoided the problem of having to rewind to the beginning of the second side of a cassette. It means the shows are all almost complete, but creates something of a task to work out the sequence of sides. I hope it is mostly clear in the recordings when a show begins and ends, but I need to check this out more. > > > > > > I note that you guys paid some bloke several hundred pounds for a collection of cassettes a while ago. Well, I'm not greedy but I am very poor! I am impressed that some of you are prepared to put so much time and effort into digitising the shows. Does it mean you are as crazy as I was when I made all those recordings? ;) > > > > > > I hope that one day it will be possible to create a searchable index of all the shows, so that listeners can listen to shows from a particular date, find particular sessions or tracks, and even perhaps find quotes from Peel talking about particular subjects, etc. All this would obviously take a lot of work and expertise, and of course the main priority is to get the source material down in a durable, high-quality format before it turns into goo or dust. > > > > > > Being occupied with poverty, career planning, education, etc., I may not have a lot of time to give on this project right now, but if it could involve the possibility to learn or help develop databases, etc. then I may be interested to help and perhaps also do some of the donkey work. > > > > > > I guess I should say that I probably want to retain ownership of my cassettes (unless you want to make me an offer I can't refuse!), but I'm very happy to let one or two of you guys have them for the purposes of digitising, etc., and if you can store them in better conditions than me, then I'd be grateful for you to keep them until I get rich enough to afford a big house with a nice archive room! Or maybe they should go to a museum or other archive if they are worth keeping good. > > > > > > I still haven't assessed the exact range of dates of my tapes. I'll do that very soon and let you know exactly what is there. > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > < > > > > of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > > > > > > > > > Of course I meant eBay! > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From thebarguest@... Fri Apr 24 23:51:18 2009 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:51:18 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for offering to share these shows - the early 90's was a good period with lots of dancy, ambienty acts like The Orb and trad, grungy rock, Babes in Toyland etc... One (minor) point - I can imagine some point in the future where we have multiple duplicates (dupes) of shows, mainly 90's, 00's - I suppose that's a good thing, cos its more choice ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > It looks like there are somewhere about 270 cassettes (mostly Phillips), possibly more. They seem to start somewhere around May 1992 and go possibly to October 1993. I definitely had a project to record a complete year, and I remember that I did succeed in that, so I hope they are all there. I'll try to sort them out a bit more and get more detail. I hope I may still find a few more good ones. > > S > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > Hi Steve (from another Steve) > > > > I read your message with great interest, and I would like to comment on several points you make. > > Firstly, your collection sounds extremely exciting. I am currently in the middle of a similar project in conjunction with the most excellent Colin called the 500 Box (because there are around 500 tapes in it-no prizes for my original name). Like you, he recorded many of the shows in mono due to reception difficulties (I assume), but nobody seems to have a problem with that (well, no-one's complained yet). These shows are not otherwise available, and as one person commented, it's better to have good mono than poor stereo. > > Secondly, I share your point about poverty, since I was made redundant this year in a foreign country (Korea) due to a big-headed 'employer' with no business sense (but let's not go there). On the other hand, the 400 Box was advertised as a non-profit enterprise: the money made from the tapes was donated to charity. If profit is your motive on this (and I don't think anybody can blame you for that), I'm sure there are others on this mailing list far more well-qualified than me to point you in the right direction. > > Thirdly, the searchable index you envisage is in fact already under way: if you go to the main page of the Peel Wiki (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page), you'll see something along the lines of what you mean. Another Steve (from Japan!) and I are the admin team for this, and we'll be more than happy to deal with any enquiries you have about it, and delighted to receive any contributions you wish to make (everybody is welcome). > > Finally, I'm sure we are all eager to help with your project, and the issue with the tape sides and identifying programmes is not problematic. After ripping, any anomalies can be sorted out during track listing. I sincerely hope that this can be pursued, and look forward to hearing from you again! > > > > All the best > > Steve [TK] > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > > > > > Progress report: > > > > > > I listened to bits of a few of the tapes, and I am amazed and I have to admit a bit tearful and excited to find them in pretty much perfect condition. They are recorded in mono. Without extremely strong reception, the sound on FM in stereo was always marred by a pronounced "stereo hiss", so I avoided this by making almost all my recordings in mono. Each cassette has a complete track list, plus month and year. Dance tracks are marked with a little cross, and very fast dance tracks have two little crosses; I was into making dance compilations for parties! And I made a compilation of the very fastest dance tracks from the whole of 1992, or was it 1993? I think I've lost that compilation, sadly. Some cassettes have both Peel and Kershaw shows; cassettes are identified as in "JP Sept 92" OR "JP AK Aug Sept 92". Despite these helpful identifying notes, it is quite difficult to work out the sequence of sides. I used to record a side, and then put in another cassette. This avoided the problem of having to rewind to the beginning of the second side of a cassette. It means the shows are all almost complete, but creates something of a task to work out the sequence of sides. I hope it is mostly clear in the recordings when a show begins and ends, but I need to check this out more. > > > > > > I note that you guys paid some bloke several hundred pounds for a collection of cassettes a while ago. Well, I'm not greedy but I am very poor! I am impressed that some of you are prepared to put so much time and effort into digitising the shows. Does it mean you are as crazy as I was when I made all those recordings? ;) > > > > > > I hope that one day it will be possible to create a searchable index of all the shows, so that listeners can listen to shows from a particular date, find particular sessions or tracks, and even perhaps find quotes from Peel talking about particular subjects, etc. All this would obviously take a lot of work and expertise, and of course the main priority is to get the source material down in a durable, high-quality format before it turns into goo or dust. > > > > > > Being occupied with poverty, career planning, education, etc., I may not have a lot of time to give on this project right now, but if it could involve the possibility to learn or help develop databases, etc. then I may be interested to help and perhaps also do some of the donkey work. > > > > > > I guess I should say that I probably want to retain ownership of my cassettes (unless you want to make me an offer I can't refuse!), but I'm very happy to let one or two of you guys have them for the purposes of digitising, etc., and if you can store them in better conditions than me, then I'd be grateful for you to keep them until I get rich enough to afford a big house with a nice archive room! Or maybe they should go to a museum or other archive if they are worth keeping good. > > > > > > I still haven't assessed the exact range of dates of my tapes. I'll do that very soon and let you know exactly what is there. > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > < > > > > of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > > > > > > > > > Of course I meant eBay! > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From ken_garner@... Sat Apr 25 00:14:38 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:14:38 -0000 Subject: Back When There Was A USSR... Message-ID: ...Peel went there for 2 weeks in early 1988 (with Sheila, Johnny Beerling and a producer: in Margrave he says it was Dave Tate of the World Service*), and when he got back made a documentary about it. Here it is. I have had this on my desk for months but I sort of imagined everyone had it but apparently it might not have surfaced much. It's now very much a historical curio for all kinds of obvious reasons, coming not long after the dawn of glasnost and perestroika under Gorbachev (readers under 30, like my students, will need to look all this up in the history books), and just over a year before the wave of collapses of communist governments across the Warsaw Pact. Peel sort of writes about the trip on pp 64-70 of the hardback edition of Margrave, but he says he went in the Yeltsin era, which is clearly wrong. But the anecdotes are amusing. k John Peel in Russia 1988-03-12 Saturday 2-3pm http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D6TE5CAP *John and Sheila did do many World service backed trips with Dave Tate between 86-93ish - eastern europe, sierra leone, hong kong - but I thought it was Mike Hawkes who went on the Russia trip, just as he had on the Japan trip in late 86. In Margrave, John says Hawkes was 'my producer' at the time of the Japan trip, which he wasn't, but he did produce the documentary they made on the world popular song festival there when they came back (as he did this one) - which I also have on tape, if anyone is interested. From rockerq@... Sat Apr 25 11:27:43 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:27:43 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? Message-ID: > < we have multiple duplicates (dupes) of shows, mainly 90's, 00's - > I suppose that's a good thing, cos its more choice !>> > Since most recordings have gaps where the tapes were flipped it means we are more likely to be able to assemble shows in their entirety! Also, while a unique recording is worth keeping whatever the quality, if there are duplicates it increases the likelihood of higher quality. I would reiterate that I would be happy to take on Steve's box once the 400Box is complete - we have currently 4 - 6 active UK-based rippers, I divide up the tapes, send them special delivery, the ripper rips them, and returns the tapes plus the ripped flacs by special delivery. I also keep a record of the entire process on a spreadsheet, which Steve [TK] uses to update the WIKI. andysmith10 - would you like to join our team of rippers? Cheers! Rocker From penarth2002@... Sat Apr 25 13:09:11 2009 From: penarth2002@... (egdirdle2001) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:09:11 -0000 Subject: Peel Gold In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree with you there. I've been listening to ALL the ripped shows since about November last year and I'm dangerously close to the end. Currently up to September 1980. I cannot thank the rippers enough , long selfless work... thenks. Are there any more or does it start to tail off around May 1981 ? Seriously guys I've been so pleased with all these. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > I think I've found the pot of aural gold at the end (or middle) of the > Peel rainbow ! It's in the form of the 400Box shows from May 1980. > Peely loves 'Bankrobber' by The Clash, and plays it loads.. > > He really likes the new Bill Nelson single, 'Do You Dream in > Colour' and plays it several times. He mentions that he had a dream > in colour of himself and Walters going to Dallas ! > > There's also stuff from Magazine, Teardrop Explodes and Echo & Bunnymen. > > The quality of these rips is very good indeed, as well ! > > Thanks again to Bill, Rocker et al (whoever he is) ....... > From rockerq@... Sat Apr 25 15:32:42 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:32:42 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Peel Gold Message-ID: > < long selfless work... thenks. Are there any more or does it start to tail off > around May 1981 ?>> > Still plenty to come from the 400 Box, through 'til early 1987. Cheers! Rocker > From slo.coche@... Sat Apr 25 15:53:55 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:53:55 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Really, I would rather the tapes could live with someone who can keep them better than I can as I don't have very good storage conditions. I am quite happy for the team to do all of it, but I may be willing to help in ripping some of them &/or in cataloguing for the database. They are almost all Philips Ferric 90 minute tapes. The inlays for every tape contain full track lists, so that should save some work in dating. There are a few confusing factors. Some sides finish a Peel Show and then start another, or go from Kershaw to Peel or vice versa, so there will be tasks in listening to find the places where shows finish and start, and in working out the sequence of cassette sides. Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > Seeing as you want to keep the original tapes, which we can all understand, it's clear you're not after the money. If you want help with the ripping I would recommend taking up rocker or others from the west country's offer(s) - loan them for ripping, then you get them back, seems a good plan to me. In dating your tapes, you will have to listen to up to 15-18 minutes of each side - in the 3 hour shows of that year, that amount of time should normally include at least one session track, and then using my book's index you should be able to connect the sections together (if recent discoveries in my own collection are any model, I am imagining you have perhaps 2 x a C90 or 4 x 45 minute sides per show). It will be a long job, though, with that many. Let the team help! > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > > > It looks like there are somewhere about 270 cassettes (mostly Phillips), possibly more. They seem to start somewhere around May 1992 and go possibly to October 1993. I definitely had a project to record a complete year, and I remember that I did succeed in that, so I hope they are all there. I'll try to sort them out a bit more and get more detail. I hope I may still find a few more good ones. > > > > S > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve (from another Steve) > > > > > > I read your message with great interest, and I would like to comment on several points you make. > > > Firstly, your collection sounds extremely exciting. I am currently in the middle of a similar project in conjunction with the most excellent Colin called the 500 Box (because there are around 500 tapes in it-no prizes for my original name). Like you, he recorded many of the shows in mono due to reception difficulties (I assume), but nobody seems to have a problem with that (well, no-one's complained yet). These shows are not otherwise available, and as one person commented, it's better to have good mono than poor stereo. > > > Secondly, I share your point about poverty, since I was made redundant this year in a foreign country (Korea) due to a big-headed 'employer' with no business sense (but let's not go there). On the other hand, the 400 Box was advertised as a non-profit enterprise: the money made from the tapes was donated to charity. If profit is your motive on this (and I don't think anybody can blame you for that), I'm sure there are others on this mailing list far more well-qualified than me to point you in the right direction. > > > Thirdly, the searchable index you envisage is in fact already under way: if you go to the main page of the Peel Wiki (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page), you'll see something along the lines of what you mean. Another Steve (from Japan!) and I are the admin team for this, and we'll be more than happy to deal with any enquiries you have about it, and delighted to receive any contributions you wish to make (everybody is welcome). > > > Finally, I'm sure we are all eager to help with your project, and the issue with the tape sides and identifying programmes is not problematic. After ripping, any anomalies can be sorted out during track listing. I sincerely hope that this can be pursued, and look forward to hearing from you again! > > > > > > All the best > > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > > > > > > > Progress report: > > > > > > > > I listened to bits of a few of the tapes, and I am amazed and I have to admit a bit tearful and excited to find them in pretty much perfect condition. They are recorded in mono. Without extremely strong reception, the sound on FM in stereo was always marred by a pronounced "stereo hiss", so I avoided this by making almost all my recordings in mono. Each cassette has a complete track list, plus month and year. Dance tracks are marked with a little cross, and very fast dance tracks have two little crosses; I was into making dance compilations for parties! And I made a compilation of the very fastest dance tracks from the whole of 1992, or was it 1993? I think I've lost that compilation, sadly. Some cassettes have both Peel and Kershaw shows; cassettes are identified as in "JP Sept 92" OR "JP AK Aug Sept 92". Despite these helpful identifying notes, it is quite difficult to work out the sequence of sides. I used to record a side, and then put in another cassette. This avoided the problem of having to rewind to the beginning of the second side of a cassette. It means the shows are all almost complete, but creates something of a task to work out the sequence of sides. I hope it is mostly clear in the recordings when a show begins and ends, but I need to check this out more. > > > > > > > > I note that you guys paid some bloke several hundred pounds for a collection of cassettes a while ago. Well, I'm not greedy but I am very poor! I am impressed that some of you are prepared to put so much time and effort into digitising the shows. Does it mean you are as crazy as I was when I made all those recordings? ;) > > > > > > > > I hope that one day it will be possible to create a searchable index of all the shows, so that listeners can listen to shows from a particular date, find particular sessions or tracks, and even perhaps find quotes from Peel talking about particular subjects, etc. All this would obviously take a lot of work and expertise, and of course the main priority is to get the source material down in a durable, high-quality format before it turns into goo or dust. > > > > > > > > Being occupied with poverty, career planning, education, etc., I may not have a lot of time to give on this project right now, but if it could involve the possibility to learn or help develop databases, etc. then I may be interested to help and perhaps also do some of the donkey work. > > > > > > > > I guess I should say that I probably want to retain ownership of my cassettes (unless you want to make me an offer I can't refuse!), but I'm very happy to let one or two of you guys have them for the purposes of digitising, etc., and if you can store them in better conditions than me, then I'd be grateful for you to keep them until I get rich enough to afford a big house with a nice archive room! Or maybe they should go to a museum or other archive if they are worth keeping good. > > > > > > > > I still haven't assessed the exact range of dates of my tapes. I'll do that very soon and let you know exactly what is there. > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > of late 70s / early 80s which we clubbed together & bought on Myspace>> > > > > > > > > > > > Of course I meant eBay! > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From eddie.duffy@... Sat Apr 25 15:57:47 2009 From: eddie.duffy@... (Ed Duffy) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:57:47 -0000 Subject: Couple of clips from Q Magazine Message-ID: Just sorting through my old clips and I thought I'd scan and post these pages about Peelie from Q Magazine. The first article is from Q100, where JP was the victim of "Who The Hell", a piece which rankled with the Ravenscrofts for a long time after. It's probably the only negative article about Peel I can recall reading, apart from the one by Julie "Look at me, I'm so controversial" Burchill. The second piece is a Famous Last words from Q150. http://eddie-duffy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/Q-100-Who-The-Hell-1.jpg http://eddie-duffy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/Q-100-Who-The-Hell-2.jpg http://eddie-duffy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/Q-100-Who-The-Hell-3.jpg http://eddie-duffy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/Q-150-Famous-Last-Words.jpg (Please note that Virgin Media can be flaky; it usually works out better to right click and download than display the pages in a browser.) Eddie. From slo.coche@... Sat Apr 25 16:02:04 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:02:04 -0000 Subject: any interest in an early nineties cassette collection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The gaps from tape flipping are very minimal with my cassettes as I used to have the next blank side fully prepared to insert and press record when the previous side was nearly full. This was always done between tracks when possible, so the gaps are almost all in the links. They are minimal, but it would certainly be good to find duplicate recordings to fill the gaps. Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > < > we have multiple duplicates (dupes) of shows, mainly 90's, 00's - > > I suppose that's a good thing, cos its more choice !>> > > > > Since most recordings have gaps where the tapes were flipped it means we > are more likely to be able to assemble shows in their entirety! > > Also, while a unique recording is worth keeping whatever the quality, if > there are duplicates it increases the likelihood of higher quality. > > I would reiterate that I would be happy to take on Steve's box once the > 400Box is complete - we have currently 4 - 6 active UK-based rippers, I divide > up the tapes, send them special delivery, the ripper rips them, and returns > the tapes plus the ripped flacs by special delivery. I also keep a record of > the entire process on a spreadsheet, which Steve [TK] uses to update the > WIKI. > > andysmith10 - would you like to join our team of rippers? > > Cheers! > > Rocker > From alan@... Sat Apr 25 23:31:33 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:31:33 -0000 Subject: CbJE Message-ID: It is a truth universally acknowledged that there are two kinds of person in this world*; those who are Colorblind James fans, and those who haven't heard them yet. The good news for both groups is that I have found a live session they did for another DJ, who might be Richard Skinner. They did 4 songs A Different Bob Colorblind's Night Out Don't Be So Hard On Yourself Ribbon Cutting Time Listen to the words of Different Bob and tell me 'Colorblind' wasn't a genius! CBJE-Radio-1-Live-session.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FE2ETOXN 14:10 Does anyone have their 27/11/89 Peel session? Or even 27/10/88 Kershaw?? Cheers Alan *Actually there are 10 types of person in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't From martinw@... Sun Apr 26 01:28:54 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:28:54 +0100 Subject: [peel] CbJE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 22:31 25/04/2009, you wrote: >It is a truth universally acknowledged that there are two kinds of >person in this world*; those who are Colorblind James fans, and >those who haven't heard them yet. >The good news for both groups is that I have found a live session >they did for another DJ, who might be Richard Skinner. > >They did 4 songs > >A Different Bob >Colorblind's Night Out >Don't Be So Hard On Yourself >Ribbon Cutting Time > >Listen to the words of Different Bob and tell me 'Colorblind' wasn't a genius! > >CBJE-Radio-1-Live-session.mp3 >http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FE2ETOXN >14:10 > >Does anyone have their 27/11/89 Peel session? >Or even 27/10/88 Kershaw?? > >Cheers > >Alan Colourblind James Expierience did 2 sessions as the Death Valley Boys Your session is one of those - the one done for Richard Skinner on 28-4-90 There is also an earlier Death Valley Boys session for Kershaw Plus there are the 3 they did as CJE 2 for Peel and one for Kershaw I jave all of these but it is much too late at night to sort them out now. Maybe tomorrow - maybe later - us old men have to get our sleep zzzzzzzzzzz.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz... martinw From alan@... Sun Apr 26 02:14:40 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:14:40 -0000 Subject: CbJE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow, you're gooood ! IST doesn't list the Skinner session (because it was performed live), and TPS doesn't mention the DVBs at all (because they didn't do a Peel session). The first CbJE Peel session was released by Strange Fruit, but anything else you've got would be extremely gratefully received (including the Skinner session, because one of my tracks has a break in it). There's no particular hurry. Tomorrow will be fine. Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 22:31 25/04/2009, you wrote: > > > >It is a truth universally acknowledged that there are two kinds of > >person in this world*; those who are Colorblind James fans, and > >those who haven't heard them yet. > >The good news for both groups is that I have found a live session > >they did for another DJ, who might be Richard Skinner. > > > >They did 4 songs > > > >A Different Bob > >Colorblind's Night Out > >Don't Be So Hard On Yourself > >Ribbon Cutting Time > > > >Listen to the words of Different Bob and tell me 'Colorblind' wasn't a genius! > > > >CBJE-Radio-1-Live-session.mp3 > >http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FE2ETOXN > >14:10 > > > >Does anyone have their 27/11/89 Peel session? > >Or even 27/10/88 Kershaw?? > > > >Cheers > > > >Alan > > Colourblind James Expierience did 2 sessions as the Death Valley Boys > > Your session is one of those - the one done for Richard Skinner on 28-4-90 > There is also an earlier Death Valley Boys session for Kershaw > > Plus there are the 3 they did as CJE 2 for Peel and one for Kershaw > > I jave all of these but it is much too late at night to sort them out > now. Maybe tomorrow > - maybe later - us old men have to get our sleep > > zzzzzzzzzzz.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz... > > martinw > From saipanda@... Sun Apr 26 06:21:53 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:21:53 -0000 Subject: Back When There Was A USSR... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks indeed to Ken for this. Great to hear the documentary after reading something about the trip in Margrave. Have made a kind of skeleton Wiki page for the show. This would no doubt benefit from the help of any Russian speakers we have on board, if there are any: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/John_Peel_In_Russia As someone who lives in Japan, I'd love to hear the one on the Yamaha song contest! Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > ...Peel went there for 2 weeks in early 1988 (with Sheila, Johnny Beerling and a producer: in Margrave he says it was Dave Tate of the World Service*), and when he got back made a documentary about it. Here it is. I have had this on my desk for months but I sort of imagined everyone had it but apparently it might not have surfaced much. It's now very much a historical curio for all kinds of obvious reasons, coming not long after the dawn of glasnost and perestroika under Gorbachev (readers under 30, like my students, will need to look all this up in the history books), and just over a year before the wave of collapses of communist governments across the Warsaw Pact. Peel sort of writes about the trip on pp 64-70 of the hardback edition of Margrave, but he says he went in the Yeltsin era, which is clearly wrong. But the anecdotes are amusing. > > > k > > John Peel in Russia 1988-03-12 Saturday 2-3pm > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D6TE5CAP > > *John and Sheila did do many World service backed trips with Dave Tate between 86-93ish - eastern europe, sierra leone, hong kong - but I thought it was Mike Hawkes who went on the Russia trip, just as he had on the Japan trip in late 86. In Margrave, John says Hawkes was 'my producer' at the time of the Japan trip, which he wasn't, but he did produce the documentary they made on the world popular song festival there when they came back (as he did this one) - which I also have on tape, if anyone is interested. > From parkermike81@... Sun Apr 26 12:31:01 2009 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:31:01 -0000 Subject: best of peel vol 19 [with introductions] Message-ID: enjoy my lovely`s - part 1 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=rh1alndr part 2 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=qytv1yut From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Apr 26 15:16:01 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:16:01 -0000 Subject: best of peel vol 19 [with introductions] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cheers Mike! Expect an accompanying page very soon... Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > enjoy my lovely`s - part 1 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=rh1alndr part 2 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=qytv1yut > From martinw@... Sun Apr 26 16:02:09 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:02:09 +0100 Subject: Colourblind Valley Boys Message-ID: Colourblind James Experience Peel 24-10-88 http://www.divshare.com/download/7212040-272 Kershaw 27-10-88 http://www.divshare.com/download/7212064-ea1 Peel 27-11-89 http://www.divshare.com/download/7212106-b38 Death Valley Boys Kershaw 14-1-90 http://www.divshare.com/download/7212217-e59 Skinner 28-4-90 http://www.divshare.com/download/7212226-5a4 martinw From alan@... Sun Apr 26 16:42:35 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:42:35 -0000 Subject: Colourblind Valley Boys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And thanks also to Ken for the Russian show - very interesting. Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > Colourblind James Experience > > Peel 24-10-88 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212040-272 > > Kershaw 27-10-88 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212064-ea1 > > > Peel 27-11-89 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212106-b38 > > Death Valley Boys > > > Kershaw 14-1-90 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212217-e59 > > Skinner 28-4-90 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212226-5a4 > > > martinw > From alan@... Sun Apr 26 16:56:23 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:56:23 -0000 Subject: Appliance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record (and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. Cheers Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > Colourblind James Experience > > Peel 24-10-88 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212040-272 > > Kershaw 27-10-88 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212064-ea1 > > > Peel 27-11-89 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212106-b38 > > Death Valley Boys > > > Kershaw 14-1-90 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212217-e59 > > Skinner 28-4-90 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212226-5a4 > > > martinw > From tabdrinkink74@... Sun Apr 26 17:29:42 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Appliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <660158.10479.qm@...> i remember this Mayo marathon very well, it was for Comic Relief, but missed the Peel show so i would be interested in hearing this. i remember Simon saying that it was a bit of a low point in the stunt as he was incredibly tired, and at one point jumped into a false ending by the band. ________________________________ From: alanforduk To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 26 April, 2009 15:56:23 Subject: [peel] Appliance I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record (and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. Cheers Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.. com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > Colourblind James Experience > > Peel 24-10-88 > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212040-272 > > Kershaw 27-10-88 > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212064-ea1 > > > Peel 27-11-89 > > http://www.divshare ..com/download/ 7212106-b38 > > Death Valley Boys > > > Kershaw 14-1-90 > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212217-e59 > > Skinner 28-4-90 > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212226-5a4 > > > martinw > From alan@... Sun Apr 26 17:51:01 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:51:01 -0000 Subject: Mayo In-Reply-To: <660158.10479.qm@...> Message-ID: He may have been tired, but he seems to really enjoy his stint on the show, and surely all great DJs jump into false endings from time to time. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > i remember this Mayo marathon very well, it was for Comic Relief, but missed the Peel show so i would be interested in hearing this. i remember Simon saying that it was a bit of a low point in the stunt as he was incredibly tired, and at one point jumped into a false ending by the band. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: alanforduk > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, 26 April, 2009 15:56:23 > Subject: [peel] Appliance > > > > > > I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record (and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). > One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. > > Cheers > > Alan > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.. com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > Colourblind James Experience > > > > Peel 24-10-88 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212040-272 > > > > Kershaw 27-10-88 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212064-ea1 > > > > > > Peel 27-11-89 > > > > http://www.divshare ..com/download/ 7212106-b38 > > > > Death Valley Boys > > > > > > Kershaw 14-1-90 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212217-e59 > > > > Skinner 28-4-90 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212226-5a4 > > > > > > martinw > > > From tabdrinkink74@... Sun Apr 26 18:13:18 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Mayo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <757406.85510.qm@...> Oh yes, i'm not blaming him at all! i also remember him saying that the official guinness record had been scrapped because someone in the US had DJed for days before going mad and missing his target time length.   ________________________________ From: alanforduk To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 26 April, 2009 16:51:01 Subject: [peel] Mayo He may have been tired, but he seems to really enjoy his stint on the show, and surely all great DJs jump into false endings from time to time. --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > i remember this Mayo marathon very well, it was for Comic Relief, but missed the Peel show so i would be interested in hearing this. i remember Simon saying that it was a bit of a low point in the stunt as he was incredibly tired, and at one point jumped into a false ending by the band. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: alanforduk > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Sunday, 26 April, 2009 15:56:23 > Subject: [peel] Appliance > > > > > > I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record (and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). > One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. > > Cheers > > Alan > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. . com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > Colourblind James Experience > > > > Peel 24-10-88 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212040-272 > > > > Kershaw 27-10-88 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212064-ea1 > > > > > > Peel 27-11-89 > > > > http://www.divshare ..com/download/ 7212106-b38 > > > > Death Valley Boys > > > > > > Kershaw 14-1-90 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212217-e59 > > > > Skinner 28-4-90 > > > > http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7212226-5a4 > > > > > > martinw > > > From martinw@... Sun Apr 26 18:56:15 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:56:15 +0100 Subject: [peel] Appliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 15:56 26/04/2009, Alan wrote: >I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares >with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record >(and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). >One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket >Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or >anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In >fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. I do have the session (as one file so you would have to dig the track out for yourself). Probably be able to put it up tomorrow martinw From alan@... Sun Apr 26 19:02:17 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:02:17 -0000 Subject: Appliance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Excellent, Martin Many thanks Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 15:56 26/04/2009, Alan wrote: > > > >I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares > >with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record > >(and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). > >One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket > >Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or > >anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In > >fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. > > > I do have the session (as one file so you would have to dig the > track out for yourself). Probably be able to put it up tomorrow > > martinw > From k.j.beech@... Sun Apr 26 19:29:09 2009 From: k.j.beech@... (bty455834) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:29:09 -0000 Subject: Appliance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: didn't shelia ring up and tell john to stop being so grumpy?? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "alanforduk" wrote: > > Excellent, Martin > Many thanks > Alan > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > At 15:56 26/04/2009, Alan wrote: > > > > > > >I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares > > >with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record > > >(and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). > > >One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket > > >Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or > > >anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In > > >fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. > > > > > > I do have the session (as one file so you would have to dig the > > track out for yourself). Probably be able to put it up tomorrow > > > > martinw > > > From alan@... Sun Apr 26 21:52:34 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:52:34 -0000 Subject: Appliance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not quite; I think she tells him to be nice to Simon because he sounds tired --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty455834" wrote: > > > > > didn't shelia ring up and tell john to stop being so grumpy?? > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "alanforduk" wrote: > > > > Excellent, Martin > > Many thanks > > Alan > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > > At 15:56 26/04/2009, Alan wrote: > > > > > > > > > >I am currently preparing a full show from 11/3/99 which John shares > > > >with Simon Mayo, who is part-way through a 37-hour DJ-ing record > > > >(and in which Tom Roche gets a mention). > > > >One of the tape flips occurs during a session track, Pre Rocket > > > >Science by Appliance. It's such a good track that if Martinw, or > > > >anyone else, can provide me with a copy of it, I'll edit it in. In > > > >fact the whole seesion is rather good, as Simon agrees. > > > > > > > > > I do have the session (as one file so you would have to dig the > > > track out for yourself). Probably be able to put it up tomorrow > > > > > > martinw > > > > > > From philip.gh@... Mon Apr 27 00:59:29 2009 From: philip.gh@... (phil) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:59:29 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw... Message-ID: For anyone who may be interested - This week on Radio 4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jxb02 John Humphrys talks to successful people who have weathered storms in their careers. Andy Kershaw talks about rebuilding his life and career after losing his BBC radio show and spending time in prison for breaking a restraining order. Andy has enjoyed a highly successful broadcasting career, winning a brace of Sony Radio awards and receiving critical acclaim for his reports from Rwanda, Angola, Haiti and Iraq. However, his outspoken opinions led to him being dropped by Radio One; he openly attacked Bob Geldof over his stance on Africa and in 2007 his personal life began to suffer. He was arrested trying to break into the home of his former girlfriend and was found guilty of drink driving. A restraining order was placed on Andy, and his Radio 3 show was taken off air. In 2008 he breached this restraining order in an attempt to see his two children and ended up in jail. He is attempting to rebuild his life and career. Phil From lorcan58@... Mon Apr 27 02:25:54 2009 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:25:54 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw Message-ID: He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jxb02 From eddie.duffy@... Mon Apr 27 19:49:49 2009 From: eddie.duffy@... (Ed Duffy) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:49:49 -0000 Subject: Colourblind Valley Boys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks very much for these, Martin & Alan. Also, for the uploads I've been catching up with, many thanks to Ken, Mike, Syrtis, The Steves and anyone else I've forgotten. Eddie. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "alanforduk" wrote: > > Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. > And thanks also to Ken for the Russian show - very interesting. > > Alan > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > Colourblind James Experience > > > > Peel 24-10-88 > > > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212040-272 > > > > Kershaw 27-10-88 > > > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212064-ea1 > > > > > > Peel 27-11-89 > > > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212106-b38 > > > > Death Valley Boys > > > > > > Kershaw 14-1-90 > > > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212217-e59 > > > > Skinner 28-4-90 > > > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7212226-5a4 > > > > > > martinw > > > From martinw@... Mon Apr 27 19:50:39 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:50:39 +0100 Subject: How Am I Going To Get Appliance Through The Spam Filter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Appliance 6-10-98 Peel http://www.divshare.com/download/7220639-b51 This is from the original broadcast martinw From alan@... Mon Apr 27 21:23:20 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:23:20 -0000 Subject: How Am I Going To Get Appliance Through The Spam Filter? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Martin Thanks yet again, Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > Appliance > > 6-10-98 Peel > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7220639-b51 > > > This is from the original broadcast > > martinw > From parkermike81@... Tue Apr 28 02:14:39 2009 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:14:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: best of peel vol 19 [with introductions] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82572.51250.qm@...> thanks steve,i see this one`s up there tonight,usual attention to detail that put`s my handwritten covers to shame,at least someone know`s how to spell a weird band`s name,i think google would reject my attempts every time lol, cheers. --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Steve wrote: From: Steve Subject: [peel] Re: best of peel vol 19 [with introductions] To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 1:16 PM Cheers Mike! Expect an accompanying page very soon... Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > enjoy my lovely`s - part 1 http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= rh1alndr part 2 http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= qytv1yut > From apoplexia@... Tue Apr 28 10:14:01 2009 From: apoplexia@... (apoplexia) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:14:01 +0200 Subject: [peel] How Am I Going To Get Appliance Through The Spam Filter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for that. I was a little disappointed, given the promising subject line, that googlemail didn't offer me a more disturbing range of ads. Normally, "spam" in an of itself is good for "Great Recipes with Spam", the idea of which just gives me the heebie-jeebies. rich 2009/4/27 Martin Wheatley > > > > Appliance > > 6-10-98 Peel > > http://www.divshare.com/download/7220639-b51 > > This is from the original broadcast > > martinw > > > From lorcan58@... Tue Apr 28 22:29:52 2009 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:29:52 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/28/bbc-radio-4-andy-kershaw-interview --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jxb02 > From tabdrinkink74@... Tue Apr 28 22:35:14 2009 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <809120.95118.qm@...> Yes i noticed this too, there's some explanation here: http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2009/04/kershaw-canned-by-bbc-again.html ________________________________ From: lorcan58 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 21:29:52 Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: http://www.guardian .co.uk/media/ 2009/apr/ 28/bbc-radio- 4-andy-kershaw- interview --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. > > http://www.bbc. co.uk/programmes /b00jxb02 > From paul.hayward@... Tue Apr 28 23:21:09 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:21:09 -0000 Subject: Teardrop Explodes Session Message-ID: I wonder if anyone can help my brother out. He's after the Teardrops session from 22/12/81 which include the tracks Soft enough for you, Sex and the Challenger which I think have never been released on the compilation available. If anyone has access we would be extremely happy. Cheers again Paul From dunelm@... Tue Apr 28 23:51:47 2009 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:51:47 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw Message-ID: In place of the advertised programme . . . here's Andy on Desert Island Discs. http://rapidshare.com/files/226893401/20070311kershaw.mp3 Hard to believe this was barely a couple of years ago. From saipanda@... Wed Apr 29 09:18:56 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:18:56 -0000 Subject: jon horne's site? Message-ID: Found out via Dr Mango that Jon Horne's site seems do be down at the moment. If Jon sees this, or anyone else who knows, wondering if this is going to be permanent. Hopefully not! Tried sending an email to the old address, but it bounced back. If the site is gone, could have a go at restoring as many of the links as possible on the Wiki. Cheers, Steve W From rockerq@... Wed Apr 29 15:48:12 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:48:12 EDT Subject: [peel] 400 Box update Message-ID: Quick update - I sent out two more packages of 20 or so cassettes to rippers this morning. I have now entered basic details for every cassette onto my spreadsheet - there are 427 tapes in all, plus four empty cases with tracklistings inside, which I hope to reunite with their tapes as the WIKI gets updated with tracklistings over time! Unfortunately my iDisk seems to be screwed up - maybe to do with a recent upgrade to my cable modem - so until I sort that out you will not be able to access the ssheet yet. There are now 5 batches currently out there being ripped, and four more batches of 20 or so tapes each still here ready to send once the previous ones are returned - so the end is at least in sight! Cheers! Rocker From martinw@... Wed Apr 29 17:59:32 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:59:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 22:21 28/04/2009, you wrote: >I wonder if anyone can help my brother out. He's after the Teardrops >session from 22/12/81 which include the tracks Soft enough for you, >Sex and the Challenger which I think have never been released on the >compilation available. If anyone has access we would be extremely happy. > >Cheers again >Paul Since noone else has replied I'll probably put this up for download tonight martinw From saipanda@... Wed Apr 29 18:12:20 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:12:20 -0000 Subject: 400 Box update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Update on the update. Rocker sent me a copy of his Excel file and have copied this over to the Google Docs version that's available for viewing on the Wiki: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Rocker%27s_400_Box_spreadsheet So the 400 Box actually contains 427 tapes -- bonus. I vote to stick with the original name, though. Will update the assorted Wiki 400 Box pages with the new info over the next few days. Many thanks as ever to Rocker and all the rippers. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > Quick update - I sent out two more packages of 20 or so cassettes to > rippers this morning. > > I have now entered basic details for every cassette onto my spreadsheet - > there are 427 tapes in all, plus four empty cases with tracklistings inside, > which I hope to reunite with their tapes as the WIKI gets updated with > tracklistings over time! > > Unfortunately my iDisk seems to be screwed up - maybe to do with a recent > upgrade to my cable modem - so until I sort that out you will not be able to > access the ssheet yet. > > There are now 5 batches currently out there being ripped, and four more > batches of 20 or so tapes each still here ready to send once the previous ones > are returned - so the end is at least in sight! > > Cheers! > > Rocker > From lorcan58@... Wed Apr 29 19:04:35 2009 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:04:35 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: <809120.95118.qm@...> Message-ID: Looks like he's getting a lot of support on Mark Damazer's blog: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/04/on_the_ropes_andy_kershaw.html --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford wrote: > > Yes i noticed this too, there's some explanation here: > http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2009/04/kershaw-canned-by-bbc-again.html > > > > > ________________________________ > From: lorcan58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 21:29:52 > Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw > > > > > > The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: > http://www.guardian .co.uk/media/ 2009/apr/ 28/bbc-radio- 4-andy-kershaw- interview > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. > > > > http://www.bbc. co.uk/programmes /b00jxb02 > > > From ken_garner@... Wed Apr 29 19:18:03 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:18:03 -0000 Subject: Stiff Little Fingers #5? Message-ID: I am wondering if the shows of 18/3/81 or 6/4/81 might yet show up in the 400 Box? Those were the dates Peel broadcast the fifth Stiff Little Fingers session, and in recent correspondence I have had with an SLF follower putting together a book on the band, there has emerged some dispute. This session is known by the fans and the band as the 'missing' 'second Mike Read session'. But it was clearly broadcast by Peel. If a show tape appears there may be a clue as to the session's provenance in Peel's intro... k From rockerq@... Wed Apr 29 19:32:48 2009 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:32:48 EDT Subject: [peel] Stiff Little Fingers #5? Message-ID: > < the 400 Box?>> > Unlikely I'm afraid - coverage of 1981 is poor in the 400 box. Cheers! Rocker From saipanda@... Wed Apr 29 19:34:47 2009 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:47 -0000 Subject: Peel Gold In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lots of love for May 1980 at the moment. Right now listening to the 1980-05-06 show (Moondogs, OMD sessions), which includes the clip I heard/saw on a Joy Divisin documentary the other day when JP plays Atmosphere at the wrong speed. Then, after the correct speed version is done, replays it at the wrong speed, claiming he prefers it, claiming it has a "brisk charm" the usual version doesn't have. Classic stuff! Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > I think I've found the pot of aural gold at the end (or middle) of the > Peel rainbow ! It's in the form of the 400Box shows from May 1980. > Peely loves 'Bankrobber' by The Clash, and plays it loads.. > > He really likes the new Bill Nelson single, 'Do You Dream in > Colour' and plays it several times. He mentions that he had a dream > in colour of himself and Walters going to Dallas ! > > There's also stuff from Magazine, Teardrop Explodes and Echo & Bunnymen. > > The quality of these rips is very good indeed, as well ! > > Thanks again to Bill, Rocker et al (whoever he is) ....... > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Apr 29 19:36:29 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:36:29 -0000 Subject: Speaking in tongues Message-ID: Fellow Peelites No, not an obscure Peel session band, but an idea prompted by Steve's recent appeal for a Russian speaker. Would the members of the list be willing to put their names forward with relation to their proficiency in foreign languages if help is needed on the Wiki at any time? My guess is, knowing JP's tastes, that Welsh speakers would be at a premium, but any might prove useful. We already have (if they don't mind me publicising the fact) German and Japanese experts on the list, and I myself could handle any French, Spanish or Korean queries. Is there any interest in this? Best wishes Steve [TK] From unity.gain@... Wed Apr 29 21:01:12 2009 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:01:12 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 400 Box update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If there was never a punk band called Rocker and the Rippers, then there should have been! Cheers Roger On 29/04/2009 17:12, "saipanda" wrote: > . > > Many thanks as ever to Rocker and all the rippers. > From unity.gain@... Wed Apr 29 21:02:30 2009 From: unity.gain@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:02:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] Speaking in tongues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not a Welsh speaker myself, but I have access to plenty of ‘em, some of whom would probably enjoy the opportunity to tell me that it was about time I learned ;-) Cheers Roger On 29/04/2009 18:36, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > No, not an obscure Peel session band, but an idea prompted by Steve's recent > appeal for a Russian speaker. Would the members of the list be willing to put > their names forward with relation to their proficiency in foreign languages if > help is needed on the Wiki at any time? My guess is, knowing JP's tastes, that > Welsh speakers would be at a premium, but any might prove useful. We already > have (if they don't mind me publicising the fact) German and Japanese experts > on the list, and I myself could handle any French, Spanish or Korean queries. > Is there any interest in this? > > Best wishes > Steve [TK] > > > > >> From thebarguest@... Wed Apr 29 21:27:18 2009 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:27:18 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Poor Andy. Another victim of sex and drugs ; I just hope Rock & Roll provides him with some joy ..... Sex, because he couldn't keep it in his kecks so his partner left him (apparently). Drugs cos he hit the bottle big stylee. Kershaw-lovers do not despair though - I'm sure he'll be back, because the Beeb are very forgiving and they know that the 'Great British Public' love infamous people in these 'Reality'-obsessed times ....... I think he's got a great accent. I hope he stays off the booze - he can always have a toke or two (I read that he partakes of the happy 'erb) ! Regrads, Todd Morden --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/28/bbc-radio-4-andy-kershaw-interview > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jxb02 > > > From k.j.beech@... Wed Apr 29 23:13:09 2009 From: k.j.beech@... (bty455834) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:13:09 -0000 Subject: Speaking in tongues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i can do a good inpression of the guy from selwyn frogget.......... theres lovley boy-oh!!!!! offnadwy hwyl... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > Not a Welsh speaker myself, but I have access to plenty of ‘em, some of whom > would probably enjoy the opportunity to tell me that it was about time I > learned ;-) > Cheers > Roger > > > On 29/04/2009 18:36, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > No, not an obscure Peel session band, but an idea prompted by Steve's recent > > appeal for a Russian speaker. Would the members of the list be willing to put > > their names forward with relation to their proficiency in foreign languages if > > help is needed on the Wiki at any time? My guess is, knowing JP's tastes, that > > Welsh speakers would be at a premium, but any might prove useful. We already > > have (if they don't mind me publicising the fact) German and Japanese experts > > on the list, and I myself could handle any French, Spanish or Korean queries. > > Is there any interest in this? > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > > > > >> > From dunelm@... Wed Apr 29 23:27:15 2009 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:27:15 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Heir. The Levée. The Orgy. The Arrest. The Marriage. The Gaming House. The Prison. The Madhouse. The interview with John Humphrys. Although not necessarily in that order. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: Poor Andy. Another victim of sex and drugs ; I just hope Rock & Roll provides him with some joy ..... Sex, because he couldn't keep it in his kecks so his partner left him (apparently). Drugs cos he hit the bottle big stylee. From lorcan58@... Thu Apr 30 00:34:40 2009 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:34:40 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for that Adrian - I'd never head it before. As you say, listening to the programme it's hard to believe what was in store. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > In place of the advertised programme . . . here's Andy on Desert Island Discs. > > http://rapidshare.com/files/226893401/20070311kershaw.mp3 > > Hard to believe this was barely a couple of years ago. > From martinw@... Thu Apr 30 01:15:13 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:15:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 22:21 28/04/2009, you wrote: >I wonder if anyone can help my brother out. He's after the Teardrops >session from 22/12/81 which include the tracks Soft enough for you, >Sex and the Challenger which I think have never been released on the >compilation available. If anyone has access we would be extremely happy. > >Cheers again >Paul http://www.divshare.com/download/7242650-326 From tomzero12@... Thu Apr 30 07:30:49 2009 From: tomzero12@... (tomzero) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session Message-ID: <420636.66484.qm@...> Thanks for taking the time to find this. I was looking forward to hearing it, but it cuts off after 4 minutes. It has all of Soft Enough...but that's about it... tom --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Martin Wheatley wrote: From: Martin Wheatley Subject: Re: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 4:15 PM At 22:21 28/04/2009, you wrote: >I wonder if anyone can help my brother out. He's after the Teardrops >session from 22/12/81 which include the tracks Soft enough for you, >Sex and the Challenger which I think have never been released on the >compilation available. If anyone has access we would be extremely happy. > >Cheers again >Paul http://www.divshare .com/download/ 7242650-326 From martinw@... Thu Apr 30 09:38:14 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:38:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session In-Reply-To: <420636.66484.qm@...> References: <420636.66484.qm@...> Message-ID: At 06:30 30/04/2009, you wrote: >Thanks for taking the time to find this. I was looking forward to >hearing it, but it cuts off after 4 minutes. It has all of Soft >Enough...but that's about it... > >tom The file at Divshare is 11 minutes long. I've just done a trial download and it's fine Try again martinw From martinw@... Thu Apr 30 09:39:17 2009 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:39:17 +0100 Subject: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session Message-ID: At 06:30 30/04/2009, you wrote: >Thanks for taking the time to find this. I was looking forward to >hearing it, but it cuts off after 4 minutes. It has all of Soft >Enough...but that's about it... > >tom The file at Divshare is 11 minutes long. I've just done a trial download and it's fine Try again martinw From slo.coche@... Thu Apr 30 12:42:55 2009 From: slo.coche@... (thinkingthinkingthinking) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:42:55 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can I just quietly suggest that one or two of us contribute further support for Andy's career prospects by adding more comments to the "on the ropes" blog post... There are already 64 comments, almost all in his support; if you find you have points to make, then I'm sure it would be a good place to put them. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > Looks like he's getting a lot of support on Mark Damazer's blog: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/04/on_the_ropes_andy_kershaw.html > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford tabdrinkink74@ wrote: > > > > Yes i noticed this too, there's some explanation here: > > http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2009/04/kershaw-canned-by-bbc-again.html > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: lorcan58 lorcan58@ > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 21:29:52 > > Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw > > > > > > > > > > > > The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: > > http://www.guardian .co.uk/media/ 2009/apr/ 28/bbc-radio- 4-andy-kershaw- interview > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > > > > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. > > > > > > http://www.bbc. co.uk/programmes /b00jxb02 > > > > > > From domesticempire@... Thu Apr 30 14:44:40 2009 From: domesticempire@... (Domestic Empire) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:44:40 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ...and "Pledge Your Support for Andy Kershaw" here too: http://johnpeeldotnet.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/pledge-your-support-for-andy-kershaw/ or http://tinyurl.com/ckvgjp ;-p On 30/04/2009, thinkingthinkingthinking wrote: > Can I just quietly suggest that one or two of us contribute further > support for Andy's career prospects by adding more comments to the "on > the ropes" blog post... There are already 64 comments, almost all in his > support; if you find you have points to make, then I'm sure it would be > a good place to put them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "lorcan58" wrote: >> >> Looks like he's getting a lot of support on Mark Damazer's blog: >> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/04/on_the_ropes_andy_kershaw.html >> >> --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford tabdrinkink74@ wrote: >> > >> > Yes i noticed this too, there's some explanation here: >> > http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2009/04/kershaw-canned-by-bbc-again.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: lorcan58 lorcan58@ >> > To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 21:29:52 >> > Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: >> > http://www.guardian .co.uk/media/ 2009/apr/ 28/bbc-radio- > 4-andy-kershaw- interview >> > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "lorcan58" wrote: >> > > >> > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday > morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. >> > > >> > > http://www.bbc. co.uk/programmes /b00jxb02 >> > > >> > >> > > > From apoplexia@... Thu Apr 30 15:26:52 2009 From: apoplexia@... (apoplexia) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:26:52 +0200 Subject: [peel] Re: Speaking in tongues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can help out with any queries about German. Or obscurities of Australian English, should that ever come up. rich 2009/4/29 bty455834 > > > i can do a good inpression of the guy from selwyn frogget.......... > > theres lovley boy-oh!!!!! > > offnadwy hwyl... > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , Roger Carruthers > wrote: > > > > Not a Welsh speaker myself, but I have access to plenty of ‘em, some of > whom > > > would probably enjoy the opportunity to tell me that it was about time I > > learned ;-) > > Cheers > > Roger > > > > > > On 29/04/2009 18:36, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > > > No, not an obscure Peel session band, but an idea prompted by Steve's > recent > > > appeal for a Russian speaker. Would the members of the list be willing > to put > > > their names forward with relation to their proficiency in foreign > languages if > > > help is needed on the Wiki at any time? My guess is, knowing JP's > tastes, that > > > Welsh speakers would be at a premium, but any might prove useful. We > already > > > have (if they don't mind me publicising the fact) German and Japanese > experts > > > on the list, and I myself could handle any French, Spanish or Korean > queries. > > > Is there any interest in this? > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [TK] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > From robfleay@... Thu Apr 30 16:00:10 2009 From: robfleay@... (robf) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:00:10 +0100 Subject: Gedge At The BBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090430150010.7G2L2.842485.root@...> I went to see David Gedge with the BBC Big Band last night in Leeds, doing a selection of Wedding Present & Cinerama songs, especially arranged in a jazz stylee (not by Gedge!). It was part of the FUSE Leeds Arts Festival and was recorded by BBC Radio 2 for Claire Teale's big band show http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006wr7s The announcer said it would be broadcast in two half-hour slots on consecutive Mondays 1st & 8th June I won't spoil it too much but I can honestly say it was a strange and beautiful affair and I heartily encourage fans of The Wedding Present (or for that matter jazz) to try and catch the show.. From paul.hayward@... Thu Apr 30 18:12:26 2009 From: paul.hayward@... (dr_haywire) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:12:26 -0000 Subject: Teardrop Explodes Session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Martin many thanks for doing this, works a treat Paul --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 06:30 30/04/2009, you wrote: > > > >Thanks for taking the time to find this. I was looking forward to > >hearing it, but it cuts off after 4 minutes. It has all of Soft > >Enough...but that's about it... > > > >tom > > The file at Divshare is 11 minutes long. > I've just done a trial download and it's fine > Try again > > martinw > From stuart@... Thu Apr 30 19:15:49 2009 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:15:49 +0100 Subject: Peel Gold In-Reply-To: <1241101259.158.34839.m5@yahoogroups.com> References: <1241101259.158.34839.m5@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: > > Right now listening to the 1980-05-06 show (Moondogs, OMD > sessions), which includes the clip I heard/saw on a Joy Divisin > documentary the other day when JP plays Atmosphere at the wrong > speed. Then, after the correct speed version is done, replays it at > the wrong speed, claiming he prefers it, claiming it has a "brisk > charm" the usual version doesn't have. > > Classic stuff! > > Steve W Was this the one which was mentioned recently (in one of the books?) where he gets out of it by blaming the French (Sordide Sentimental is Belgian surely?) for making records that play at the 'wrong' speed and growing apples that taste like cardboard? Am awaiting the Wedding Present jazz sessions with some trepidation, being married to someone who has recorded a loungecore version of 'Ever Fallen In Love'. > Stuart Mchugh po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb ... t: 01506 840063 ... e: editor@... From tomzero12@... Thu Apr 30 19:26:37 2009 From: tomzero12@... (tomzero) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session Message-ID: <468124.60067.qm@...> Thanks Martin. Must've been some problem on my end. I'll have another go later on... --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Martin Wheatley wrote: From: Martin Wheatley Subject: Re: [peel] Teardrop Explodes Session To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 12:39 AM At 06:30 30/04/2009, you wrote: >Thanks for taking the time to find this. I was looking forward to >hearing it, but it cuts off after 4 minutes. It has all of Soft >Enough...but that's about it... > >tom The file at Divshare is 11 minutes long. I've just done a trial download and it's fine Try again martinw From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Apr 30 20:27:03 2009 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:27:03 -0000 Subject: Peel Gold In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is indeed, Stuart: I included these comments when embellishing the listing (http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_May_1980). A most enjoyable show! Best wishes Steve [TK] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Mchugh wrote: > > > > > > > Right now listening to the 1980-05-06 show (Moondogs, OMD > > sessions), which includes the clip I heard/saw on a Joy Divisin > > documentary the other day when JP plays Atmosphere at the wrong > > speed. Then, after the correct speed version is done, replays it at > > the wrong speed, claiming he prefers it, claiming it has a "brisk > > charm" the usual version doesn't have. > > > > Classic stuff! > > > > Steve W > > > Was this the one which was mentioned recently (in one of the books?) > where he gets out of it by blaming the French (Sordide Sentimental is > Belgian surely?) for making records that play at the 'wrong' speed > and growing apples that taste like cardboard? > > Am awaiting the Wedding Present jazz sessions with some trepidation, > being married to someone who has recorded a loungecore version of > 'Ever Fallen In Love'. > > > > > Stuart Mchugh > po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb ... t: 01506 840063 ... e: > editor@... > From lorcan58@... Thu Apr 30 22:02:51 2009 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:02:51 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suspect a good few of us are aleady in there :-) But there's been great support for Kershaw - at 67 comments it's almost the most-commented of Mark Damazer's blogs (beaten only by people complaining about the website redesign!). He must be wondering what a can of worms he's opened... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thinkingthinkingthinking" wrote: > > Can I just quietly suggest that one or two of us contribute further > support for Andy's career prospects by adding more comments to the "on > the ropes" blog post... There are already 64 comments, almost all in his > support; if you find you have points to make, then I'm sure it would be > a good place to put them. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > > > Looks like he's getting a lot of support on Mark Damazer's blog: > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/04/on_the_ropes_andy_kershaw.html > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Blatchford tabdrinkink74@ wrote: > > > > > > Yes i noticed this too, there's some explanation here: > > > http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2009/04/kershaw-canned-by-bbc-again.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: lorcan58 lorcan58@ > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 21:29:52 > > > Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The interview has apparently been dropped by the BBC: > > > http://www.guardian .co.uk/media/ 2009/apr/ 28/bbc-radio- > 4-andy-kershaw- interview > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "lorcan58" wrote: > > > > > > > > He's on Radio 4 this week in the "On The Ropes" series. Tuesday > morning 9am repeated 9:30pm. > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc. co.uk/programmes /b00jxb02 > > > > > > > > > > From ken_garner@... Thu Apr 30 23:00:17 2009 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:00:17 -0000 Subject: William's 15th Birthday Special Message-ID: Found this one, unlabelled, in my recent clearout of some old shoeboxes. The first part of this one is familiar from the 17-DVD Torrent, but I can now present you with the complete show, and in slightly better quality I think. So listeners may be familiar with Peel's talk of what the family had done for William's 15th Birthday earlier that Saturday 12th January. Incidentally, according to the normally reliable memories of my friend Stewart Cruickshank, the show 15 years earlier on the night after William was born - Monday 12th January 1976, complete with a session by Andy Fairweather-Low - included Peel overwhelmed by fatherhood, Stewart recalls. so let's hope that one turns up sometime. But in 1991 it was a timely show for other reasons. The US Congress had voted that afternoon approving military action by the armies assembled in Saudi Arabia to remove Saddam Hussein's Iraqi invasion force from Kuwait, and the air war began three days later. So to start with Prince Far-I's No More War was prescient. I think I may have kept this one because it seemed momentous (were we all about to die?), and I always like Robert Lloyd's stuff. Hope you agree. k Peel 1991-01-12a Robert Lloyd (LFO) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9FNYGB57 Peel 1991-01-12b Robert Lloyd (LFO) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UD0L51XF PS. Thanks to Phil who corrected the wrong dates on this Robert Lloyd session in IST, thanks to his tape and index, so I at last got it right in TPS - never remembering I had a tape of it myself all the time. Doh! From alan@... Thu Apr 30 23:33:21 2009 From: alan@... (alanforduk) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:33:21 -0000 Subject: William's 15th Birthday Special In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks yet again Ken. Er Peel 1991-01-12a Robert Lloyd (LFO) LFO ?? Alan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > Found this one, unlabelled, in my recent clearout of some old shoeboxes. The first part of this one is familiar from the 17-DVD Torrent, but I can now present you with the complete show, and in slightly better quality I think. So listeners may be familiar with Peel's talk of what the family had done for William's 15th Birthday earlier that Saturday 12th January. Incidentally, according to the normally reliable memories of my friend Stewart Cruickshank, the show 15 years earlier on the night after William was born - Monday 12th January 1976, complete with a session by Andy Fairweather-Low - included Peel overwhelmed by fatherhood, Stewart recalls. so let's hope that one turns up sometime. But in 1991 it was a timely show for other reasons. The US Congress had voted that afternoon approving military action by the armies assembled in Saudi Arabia to remove Saddam Hussein's Iraqi invasion force from Kuwait, and the air war began three days later. So to start with Prince Far-I's No More War was prescient. I think I may have kept this one because it seemed momentous (were we all about to die?), and I always like Robert Lloyd's stuff. Hope you agree. > > k > > Peel 1991-01-12a Robert Lloyd (LFO) > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9FNYGB57 > Peel 1991-01-12b Robert Lloyd (LFO) > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UD0L51XF > > PS. Thanks to Phil who corrected the wrong dates on this Robert Lloyd session in IST, thanks to his tape and index, so I at last got it right in TPS - never remembering I had a tape of it myself all the time. Doh! >