From alexrom1@... Wed Oct 1 08:42:44 2008 From: alexrom1@... (Alex Romanelli) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:42:44 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 Message-ID: Hi, I'm new to the group so I'm just going to dive right in. In a burst of nostalgia for my halcyon listening days of 88-97, I've been tracking down the Festive 50s. Piratebay has a bunch of torrents as I'm sure you're aware, but some of the torrents are corrupted so I've been compiling my own mp3s. However, one thing I can't clear up is that on both the BBC site and rocklist, Stereolab's "Fluorescenes" is no.20 in both 1996 and 1997. Since it came out as a single in 1996, and its not included on their BBC sessions album I'm inclined to think 1997 is an error, but then what was at no.20 that year? I'm already thinking of all sorts of other non-50 Peel questions, but I'll save them for next time. Cheers, Alex From mark.whitby2@... Wed Oct 1 13:28:26 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:28:26 +0100 Subject: [peel] Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 References: Message-ID: Probably a good time for me to introduce myself on this group - Mark Whitby, Dandelion DJ and author of book on Festive Fifty. Fluourescences was indeed number 20 in both years. Neither was a session version. The single was released in December 1996 and charted on the strength of pre-release plays from Peel that year. It was then allowed to qualify for the 1997 festive fifty. I'm not sure whether it should have, but bear in mind the voting for the 1997 chart was unusual compared with other years as there was only a late decision to do a festive fifty that year, and votes mostly came in fewer than usual and mostly by phone. Peel did, on announcing voting for the FF, on at least one occasion state that votes for tracks released the previous December were eligible. Given his slightly detached relationship with the chart, it's unlikely he would have checked the previous year's chart in order to identify anomalies such as this. So, an interesting (to me, anyway) quirk of festive fifty history rather than an error. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Romanelli To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:42 AM Subject: [peel] Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 Hi, I'm new to the group so I'm just going to dive right in. In a burst of nostalgia for my halcyon listening days of 88-97, I've been tracking down the Festive 50s. Piratebay has a bunch of torrents as I'm sure you're aware, but some of the torrents are corrupted so I've been compiling my own mp3s. However, one thing I can't clear up is that on both the BBC site and rocklist, Stereolab's "Fluorescenes" is no.20 in both 1996 and 1997. Since it came out as a single in 1996, and its not included on their BBC sessions album I'm inclined to think 1997 is an error, but then what was at no.20 that year? I'm already thinking of all sorts of other non-50 Peel questions, but I'll save them for next time. Cheers, Alex From robfleay@... Wed Oct 1 17:43:37 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:43:37 +0000 Subject: [peel] [slightly OT] Teeny Kix Message-ID: <20081001154337.MTPW19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Just downloaded this - wonderfully daft but about 2 and a half minutes too long! > I was going through my old DAT tapes yesterday, as I'm selling my DAT machine, and > amongst the inevitable Peel shows (which I will be uploading, of course), I found something I > sent to Peel on the occasion of one his birthdays, in the late 90's at a guess. > I was saddened at the time to have it returned with the standard BBC rejection slip, as it > was never really intended as a submission for airplay, just a kind of novelty birthday thing. > I like to think that it was filtered out by a BBC office drone, and that John never got to hear > it, because I'm sure he would never have been so rude as to return a gift, but instead would > have discretely binned it with all the other stuff. > I was chuffed to find this because I've lost the actual CD, (which was made at a time when > blank CDR's were a fiver each!) and the multi-track files. > I've still got the rejection slip though, which i treasure along with my Peel-autograph-on-a- > fag-packet. > Anyway, here it is: > http://tinyurl.com/4lelsh > cheers > Roger > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Oct 1 18:20:40 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:20:40 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Alex n a shameless bit of self-publicity, I urge you to visit my blog 'Teenage Kicks' if you're looking for FF mp3s. I also have a downloadable list there, if you don't have one already. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Romanelli" wrote: > > Hi, I'm new to the group so I'm just going to dive right in. > > In a burst of nostalgia for my halcyon listening days of 88-97, I've > been tracking down the Festive 50s. Piratebay has a bunch of torrents > as I'm sure you're aware, but some of the torrents are corrupted so > I've been compiling my own mp3s. > > However, one thing I can't clear up is that on both the BBC site and > rocklist, Stereolab's "Fluorescenes" is no.20 in both 1996 and 1997. > Since it came out as a single in 1996, and its not included on their > BBC sessions album I'm inclined to think 1997 is an error, but then > what was at no.20 that year? > > I'm already thinking of all sorts of other non-50 Peel questions, but > I'll save them for next time. > > Cheers, > > Alex > From paul@... Wed Oct 1 18:21:52 2008 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:21:52 +0100 Subject: [peel] Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 References: Message-ID: <410C38834D0647D3A80986C379037766@...> Plus ... this gives me a good excuse to let people know that those that are still listening to new Peel-inspired music can, as of today, vote in this year's Dandelion Radio Festive Fifty. http://www.dandelionradio.com The plan is that we collect the votes from now up until the end of November - then we run around trying to find tracks that we don't have in our libraries, record the show and have it streaming from December 25th through until the end of January (we will also be running our regular shows - so it is a busy time for our DJs). If you need some reminders of what has been around in 2008 - then you could take a look at our tracklistings pages. Pretty well every track we have ever played is listed up there. If you go to our page on last.fm ... then you can see the last 2000 or so and even listen again to some of them. http://www.last.fm/user/DandelionRadio (do verify that the tracks you vote for are from 2008 (OK - from December 2007 onwards). Paul Webster Backroom at Dandelion Radio ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Whitby To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 Probably a good time for me to introduce myself on this group - Mark Whitby, Dandelion DJ and author of book on Festive Fifty. Fluourescences was indeed number 20 in both years. Neither was a session version. The single was released in December 1996 and charted on the strength of pre-release plays from Peel that year. It was then allowed to qualify for the 1997 festive fifty. I'm not sure whether it should have, but bear in mind the voting for the 1997 chart was unusual compared with other years as there was only a late decision to do a festive fifty that year, and votes mostly came in fewer than usual and mostly by phone. Peel did, on announcing voting for the FF, on at least one occasion state that votes for tracks released the previous December were eligible. Given his slightly detached relationship with the chart, it's unlikely he would have checked the previous year's chart in order to identify anomalies such as this. So, an interesting (to me, anyway) quirk of festive fifty history rather than an error. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Romanelli To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:42 AM Subject: [peel] Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 Hi, I'm new to the group so I'm just going to dive right in. In a burst of nostalgia for my halcyon listening days of 88-97, I've been tracking down the Festive 50s. Piratebay has a bunch of torrents as I'm sure you're aware, but some of the torrents are corrupted so I've been compiling my own mp3s. However, one thing I can't clear up is that on both the BBC site and rocklist, Stereolab's "Fluorescenes" is no.20 in both 1996 and 1997. Since it came out as a single in 1996, and its not included on their BBC sessions album I'm inclined to think 1997 is an error, but then what was at no.20 that year? I'm already thinking of all sorts of other non-50 Peel questions, but I'll save them for next time. Cheers, Alex From roger.carruthers@... Wed Oct 1 18:25:25 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:25:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] [slightly OT] Teeny Kix In-Reply-To: <20081001154337.MTPW19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <594044.32219.qm@...> True. I was younger then, but not so young as to be comfortable with the idea that a song could be less than 3 minutes long ;-) cheers Roger --- On Wed, 1/10/08, RobF wrote: > From: RobF > Subject: Re: [peel] [slightly OT] Teeny Kix > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, 1 October, 2008, 4:43 PM > Just downloaded this - wonderfully daft but about 2 and a > half minutes too long! > > > > > I was going through my old DAT tapes yesterday, as > I'm selling my DAT machine, and > > amongst the inevitable Peel shows (which I will be > uploading, of course), I found something I > > sent to Peel on the occasion of one his birthdays, in > the late 90's at a guess. > > I was saddened at the time to have it returned with > the standard BBC rejection slip, as it > > was never really intended as a submission for airplay, > just a kind of novelty birthday thing. > > I like to think that it was filtered out by a BBC > office drone, and that John never got to hear > > it, because I'm sure he would never have been so > rude as to return a gift, but instead would > > have discretely binned it with all the other stuff. > > I was chuffed to find this because I've lost the > actual CD, (which was made at a time when > > blank CDR's were a fiver each!) and the > multi-track files. > > I've still got the rejection slip though, which i > treasure along with my Peel-autograph-on-a- > > fag-packet. > > Anyway, here it is: > > http://tinyurl.com/4lelsh > > cheers > > Roger > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From martinw@... Wed Oct 1 19:28:17 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:28:17 +0100 Subject: [peel] [slightly OT] Teeny Kix In-Reply-To: <594044.32219.qm@...> References: <20081001154337.MTPW19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> <594044.32219.qm@...> Message-ID: At 17:25 01/10/2008, you wrote: >True. I was younger then, but not so young as to be comfortable with >the idea that a song could be less than 3 minutes long ;-) >cheers >Roger So where's the 25 minute Yes Remix then martinw From thebarguest@... Wed Oct 1 20:36:40 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:36:40 -0000 Subject: [slightly OT] Teeny Kix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Surely u mean Frankie Goes To Hollywood - there are no remixes of Yes(or any other prog-rock band) songs to my knowledge !! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 17:25 01/10/2008, you wrote: > > >True. I was younger then, but not so young as to be comfortable with > >the idea that a song could be less than 3 minutes long ;-) > >cheers > >Roger > > So where's the 25 minute Yes Remix then > > martinw > From rockerq@... Wed Oct 1 21:11:20 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:11:20 EDT Subject: [peel] [slightly OT] Teeny Kix Message-ID: > << I was younger then, but not so young as to be comfortable with the idea > that a song could be less than 3 minutes long ;-) > cheers > Roger>> > I believe it was The Damned on the esteemed Stiff record label that originated the perfect length for a song. New Rose is a perfect 1min 99. Cheers! Rocker > From lorcan58@... Wed Oct 1 21:31:19 2008 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:31:19 -0000 Subject: Problem tape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > the tape becomes very reluctant to move in the middle section The combined radius of the two spools is at a maximum around the middle of the tape and the clearance between them is at a minimum. Any wrinkles or unevenness in the tape that increases the radius even slightly at this point may cause the two spools to touch each other, and the extra friction can bring things to a halt. Many years ago I had a cassette like this and the only solution was to cut the tape around the middle and put the two halves into two new cases. A bit extreme I know... Lorcan From trevor_huddleston@... Wed Oct 1 22:15:52 2008 From: trevor_huddleston@... (Trevor Huddleston) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:15:52 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Problem tape In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is good stuff "The combined radius of the two spools is at a maximum around the middle of the tape and the clearance between them is at a minimum" Who said Pythagoras was talking rubbish? Keep it up. Yours Dave Euclid and Steve Hippocrates To: peel@yahoogroups.comFrom: lorcan58@yahoo.co.ukDate: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:31:19 +0000Subject: [peel] Re: Problem tape --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote:> the tape becomes very reluctant to move in the middle sectionThe combined radius of the two spools is at a maximum around the middle of the tape and the clearance between them is at a minimum. Any wrinkles or unevenness in the tape that increases the radius even slightly at this point may cause the two spools to touch each other, and the extra friction can bring things to a halt. Many years ago I had a cassette like this and the only solution was to cut the tape around the middle and put the two halves into two new cases. A bit extreme I know...Lorcan _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ From robfleay@... Wed Oct 1 22:26:50 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:26:50 +0000 Subject: 400 box tapes Message-ID: <20081001202650.SSEA29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Just sat down tonight to make a start on my second batch of 10 tapes from the 400 box and the first one I listen to has John saying words to the effect of: "we tape all these programs so we can listen back to them in the event of me saying something unfortunate..." I seem to remember at the start of the 400 box project Ken saying that he didn't think the BBC did tape the shows back then...could there already be copies of these shows in the archive? Anyway - not uploaded yet but the 17th September show of which I previously shared the last 20 minutes - is now complete (bar a few missing minutes when the tapes were swapped) Will post the link when it's done uploading ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Wed Oct 1 22:38:05 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:38:05 EDT Subject: [peel] Peel's Record Bx Message-ID: Whoooop Whoooop! I just "won" a 7" copy of "I'm Not Drinking Anymore" by Al Ferrier, on Master-trak, on eBay! When it arrives I will have 136 of the 142! (and at least 3 of the remaining six I think will be virtually impossible to get hold of - and the others just rather expensive!) First time I've seen this record come up for sale or auction since the Channel 4 documentary went out a few weeks after Peelie's death - so I bid a ridiculous amount, and won it for a very reasonable 24 dollars. Cheers! Rocker PS I am DJing at a couple of gigs this weekend - Friday October 3rd I play at Sunny Inside Presents @ The Glebe, Glebe Street, Stoke-on-Trent, with Horowitz, The Parallelograms & The Lovely Eggs. There's the traditional post-popshow curry afterwards, too! and Saturday October 4th I play at Big Pink Cake @ The Avon Combined Services Club, 29 St Pauls Rd, Bristol BS8, with Santa Dog, Francois, and The Mai 68s. There's a free Cloudberry mini-CD to the first 40 punters! (worth the price of admission in itself!) Mail me offlist for further details. And don't forget to vote in the Festive 50 at www.dandelionradio.com! From robfleay@... Wed Oct 1 22:44:13 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:44:13 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's Record Bx Message-ID: <20081001204413.RPDM19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Excellent - well done! which ones are you missing now then? > I just "won" a 7" copy of "I'm Not Drinking Anymore" by Al Ferrier, on > Master-trak, on eBay! > > When it arrives I will have 136 of the 142! (and at least 3 of the remaining > six I think will be virtually impossible to get hold of - and the others just > rather expensive!) ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Wed Oct 1 23:44:55 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:44:55 EDT Subject: [peel] Peel's Record Box Message-ID: > <> > 7. Anti-Social - Traffic lights + teacher, teacher (Dynamite Records - DR01 - 1977) (got reissue) (EXPENSIVE) 12. Bobby Lee Trammell - If you ever get it once (you gonna' want it agin') + Don't you know I love you (ALLEY 1050) 1966 (UNKNOWN) 27. Dreamland Express - Groovy + u.f.o (EMI) (UNKNOWN) 90. Sipho Bhengu - Tickey dopies + I saluti (INKONKONI) 1971 (UNKNOWN) 101. The Factory - Path through the forest + Gone (MGM) 1968 (got reissue) (EXPENSIVE) 106. The Misunderstood - I can take you to the sun + Who do you love (FONTANA) 1966 (got Reissue) (EXPENSIVE) Could also do with picture sleeves for my 2 copies of MC5 - Looking At You / Borderline on A-Square - oh, and black vinyl and red vinyl copies of "Surprise Package Vol 2" on Flying Bomb (My copy is on gray marbled vinyl & not sure what version Peel had!) So if anyone has spare copies of these floating around you know what to get me for Christmas now! Cheers! Rocker From alexrom1@... Thu Oct 2 08:19:42 2008 From: alexrom1@... (Alex Romanelli) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:19:42 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very interesting! Thanks for clearing this up. A little like when in both 1991 and 1992 Pavement's "Summer Babe" made the chart, neither being a session (right fact fans?). Technically 1991 was the 7" and 1992 was the LP, but I could never hear a difference between the two versions. So I always thought the LP's Winter Version subtitle was just Pavement being Pavement. Cheers Mark! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Whitby" wrote: > > Probably a good time for me to introduce myself on this group - Mark Whitby, Dandelion DJ and author of book on Festive Fifty. Fluourescences was indeed number 20 in both years. Neither was a session version. The single was released in December 1996 and charted on the strength of pre-release plays from Peel that year. It was then allowed to qualify for the 1997 festive fifty. I'm not sure whether it should have, but bear in mind the voting for the 1997 chart was unusual compared with other years as there was only a late decision to do a festive fifty that year, and votes mostly came in fewer than usual and mostly by phone. Peel did, on announcing voting for the FF, on at least one occasion state that votes for tracks released the previous December were eligible. Given his slightly detached relationship with the chart, it's unlikely he would have checked the previous year's chart in order to identify anomalies such as this. > > So, an interesting (to me, anyway) quirk of festive fifty history rather than an error. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Romanelli > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:42 AM > Subject: [peel] Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 > > > Hi, I'm new to the group so I'm just going to dive right in. > > In a burst of nostalgia for my halcyon listening days of 88-97, I've > been tracking down the Festive 50s. Piratebay has a bunch of torrents > as I'm sure you're aware, but some of the torrents are corrupted so > I've been compiling my own mp3s. > > However, one thing I can't clear up is that on both the BBC site and > rocklist, Stereolab's "Fluorescenes" is no.20 in both 1996 and 1997. > Since it came out as a single in 1996, and its not included on their > BBC sessions album I'm inclined to think 1997 is an error, but then > what was at no.20 that year? > > I'm already thinking of all sorts of other non-50 Peel questions, but > I'll save them for next time. > > Cheers, > > Alex > From alexrom1@... Thu Oct 2 08:21:31 2008 From: alexrom1@... (Alex Romanelli) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:21:31 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice! I went and downloaded the list, a great resource, thanks for all the time and trouble! Great stuff. You've got some good mp3s up there but since you only keep them up for 2 weeks, anyone want to help a newbie get some Festive Fifty broadcasts? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Hi Alex > > n a shameless bit of self-publicity, I urge you to visit my blog > 'Teenage Kicks' if you're looking for FF mp3s. I also have a > downloadable list there, if you don't have one already. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] From k.j.beech@... Thu Oct 2 08:32:31 2008 From: k.j.beech@... (bty455834) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:32:31 -0000 Subject: [slightly OT] Teeny Kix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: not quite 25 mins but there was... fgth producer and lable boss trevor horn produced the yes 90125 lp which produced the owner of a lonley heart 12" remix by ztt lable mates art of noise. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > Surely u mean Frankie Goes To Hollywood - there are no remixes > of Yes(or any other prog-rock band) songs to my knowledge !! > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > At 17:25 01/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > >True. I was younger then, but not so young as to be comfortable with > > >the idea that a song could be less than 3 minutes long ;-) > > >cheers > > >Roger > > > > So where's the 25 minute Yes Remix then > > > > martinw > > > From saipanda@... Thu Oct 2 09:17:39 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:17:39 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Alex, Welcome to the group. > anyone want to help a newbie get some Festive Fifty broadcasts? Reckon your first stop should be Gary's excellent server: http://www.30242.net/ Incidentally, Gary, if you read this, is it OK with you if I put links to the server on the Wiki F50 date pages for the various years, once I get them sorted out? Think we already have such links for Andrew's 90s tapes. Cheers, Steve W PS Further to Mark Whitby's message the other day, let me throw in a hearty recommendation for his F50 book. Amazing stuff! From saipanda@... Thu Oct 2 09:53:07 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:53:07 -0000 Subject: Peel's Record Box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow, how cool to have everything but those ones. Have just been collecting digital versions. With not having a record player and all. Apart from Sipho Bhengu and Dreamland Express, the only other track I don't have (like a few other people, I think) is "Old Smokie" by The Fireman, which you seem to have. Any chance of a ripped copy? Digital pic of the label/sleeve as a bonus? Other ones I couldn't find any artwork for are Al Ferrier, Johnnie Taylor, Marc Bolan, Mickie Lee Lane, Paul Blake, Ray Martin, Revelino, Sasha Caro, The Factory, The Legion Of Super- Heroes, The Versatiles/Lee Perry, Yami Bolo. Might just be my rubbish Internet search abilities. Hoping you can make my day here. (Doesn't have to be today, of course). Cheers, Steve PS For those who don't know the site, some further info here: http://my.opera.com/JohnPeelsRecordBox/blog/ > > 27. Dreamland Express - Groovy + u.f.o (EMI) (UNKNOWN) > > 90. Sipho Bhengu - Tickey dopies + I saluti (INKONKONI) 1971 (UNKNOWN) > > 101. The Factory - Path through the forest + Gone (MGM) 1968 (got reissue) > (EXPENSIVE) > > 106. The Misunderstood - I can take you to the sun + Who do you love > (FONTANA) 1966 (got Reissue) (EXPENSIVE) > > Could also do with picture sleeves for my 2 copies of MC5 - Looking At You / > Borderline on A-Square - oh, and black vinyl and red vinyl copies of "Surprise > Package Vol 2" on Flying Bomb (My copy is on gray marbled vinyl & not sure > what version Peel had!) > > So if anyone has spare copies of these floating around you know what to get > me for Christmas now! > > Cheers! > > Rocker > From robfleay@... Thu Oct 2 11:08:44 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 9:08:44 +0000 Subject: another wiki question Message-ID: <20081002090844.YTXI29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Is there anyway of paying for wiki space that will get rid of the plethora of adverts? I can just about deal with the banners but I just tried to look at a page and there was one of those annoying hovering ads for Qatar Airways obscuring the page. Normally they have a teeny tiny close button hidden away in the corner, but on this one I couldn't see one and therefore couldn't make it go away! Just strikes me that we could probably club together and get some web space for hosting the rips and host our own wiki engine if there was demand for it? I don't suppose there is any kind of export option for our pages on wikia? would it be a case of rebuilding from scratch if we did that? ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From lists@... Thu Oct 2 14:26:04 2008 From: lists@... (Rob Brewer) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:26:04 +0100 Subject: [peel] another wiki question In-Reply-To: <20081002090844.YTXI29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> References: <20081002090844.YTXI29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, RobF wrote: > I don't suppose there is any kind of export option for our pages on wikia? http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Export -- Rob Brewer rob@... http://www.rbrwr.org "Who would not rather be a rising ape than a falling angel?" -- Terry Pratchett From thebarguest@... Thu Oct 2 14:34:33 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:34:33 -0000 Subject: [slightly OT] Teeny Kix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Full marks for that ! I forgot about the 80's 'synth-pop' version of Yes ! 1984 was a good year for remixes ...... On 12-inch singles. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty455834" wrote: > > not quite 25 mins but there was... > > fgth producer and lable boss trevor horn produced the yes 90125 lp > which produced the owner of a lonley heart 12" remix by ztt lable > mates art of noise. > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > Surely u mean Frankie Goes To Hollywood - there are no remixes > > of Yes(or any other prog-rock band) songs to my knowledge !! > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > > At 17:25 01/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > >True. I was younger then, but not so young as to be comfortable > with > > > >the idea that a song could be less than 3 minutes long ;-) > > > >cheers > > > >Roger > > > > > > So where's the 25 minute Yes Remix then > > > > > > martinw > > > > > > From stuart@... Thu Oct 2 14:56:12 2008 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:56:12 +0100 Subject: prog In-Reply-To: <1222932183.479.66378.m46@yahoogroups.com> References: <1222932183.479.66378.m46@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <84DC74F2-8234-4604-AD7E-5AE6B5B9DF96@...> > , "thebarguest" wrote: >> >> Surely u mean Frankie Goes To Hollywood - there are no remixes of >> Yes(or any other prog-rock band) songs to my knowledge !! you mean generally? I'm sure there must be some acid house Pink Floyd remixes somewhere... but Atomic Soul Experiences - a Japanese 'producer' called Kyoshi, surname beyond by spelling - did a version of Hocus Pocus - originally by Dutch progsters Focus, of course. Was fairly mental, in keeping with the original I suppose (yodeling and flute obligatory). I think John played some stuff by A.S.S., as they weren't known, though not this particular tune (despite my prompting!) > >> I just "won" a 7" copy of "I'm Not Drinking Anymore" by Al >> Ferrier, on I wasn't aware of this - I get the feeling it's from a loooong time ago? Just that a drummer out of Chou Pahrot (Glasgwegian prog-punks) was called Al Ferrier. Probably not the same one, but you never know. S From thebarguest@... Thu Oct 2 16:13:19 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:19 -0000 Subject: prog In-Reply-To: <84DC74F2-8234-4604-AD7E-5AE6B5B9DF96@...> Message-ID: You're right. My brain must be f*cked ! The Orb actually remixed the whole of a Floyd album, I think. But I'm not aware of any Yes, Tull, Gentle Giant, Genesis etc. remixes of the 70's prog stuff ..... Probably 'cause they sounded like remixes anyway....ha ha.... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Mchugh wrote: > > > , "thebarguest" wrote: > >> > >> Surely u mean Frankie Goes To Hollywood - there are no remixes of > >> Yes(or any other prog-rock band) songs to my knowledge !! > > you mean generally? I'm sure there must be some acid house Pink Floyd > remixes somewhere... > but Atomic Soul Experiences - a Japanese 'producer' called Kyoshi, > surname beyond by spelling - did a version of Hocus Pocus - > originally by Dutch progsters Focus, of course. Was fairly mental, in > keeping with the original I suppose (yodeling and flute obligatory). > I think John played some stuff by A.S.S., as they weren't known, > though not this particular tune (despite my prompting!) > > > > > > >> I just "won" a 7" copy of "I'm Not Drinking Anymore" by Al > >> Ferrier, on > > I wasn't aware of this - I get the feeling it's from a loooong time > ago? Just that a drummer out of Chou Pahrot (Glasgwegian prog- punks) > was called Al Ferrier. Probably not the same one, but you never know. > > S > From robfleay@... Thu Oct 2 16:28:37 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:28:37 +0000 Subject: [peel] another wiki question Message-ID: <20081002142837.NWUQ5827.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > > > I don't suppose there is any kind of export option for our pages on wikia? > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Export Cool... http://www.siteground.com/wiki-hosting.htm is $5.95 per month with 750gb of webspace and 7500gb monthly bandwidth you only get that price if you sign up for three years though - so I guess it would need about �120 between us and that includes a free domain name... ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From koogy@... Thu Oct 2 16:58:29 2008 From: koogy@... (Andrew Dean) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:58:29 +0100 Subject: Peel's Record Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: saipanda writes: > "Old Smokie" by The Fireman, which you seem to have. Rocker is the one who provided Louie's Theme for the box but i seem to recall the b-side being different to the one listed. > Other ones I couldn't find any artwork for are ... > Revelino i have this, the physical copy (cd) bought for 50p or so from amazon to fill the gap. i also have a scanner, albeit one i haven't used in years. will see if i can get it to work. andy From martinw@... Thu Oct 2 18:56:06 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:56:06 +0100 Subject: [peel] another wiki question In-Reply-To: <20081002142837.NWUQ5827.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@sm tp.ntlworld.com> References: <20081002142837.NWUQ5827.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: At 15:28 02/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > > I don't suppose there is any kind of export > option for our pages on wikia? > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Export > >Cool... > >http://www.siteground.com/wiki-hosting.htm >is $5.95 per month with 750gb of webspace and 7500gb monthly bandwidth > >you only get that price if you sign up for three >years though - so I guess it would need about >£120 between us and that includes a free domain name... Putting the Wiki there is fine - it's just words. But if you are thinking about the rips there is an element of risk. None of you owns the copyright to the music on the rips - the record companies do. The more you put them in one place the bigger a target you make I don't wish to rain on your parade but these things do have to be considered first. If you want to ignore them then fine but everyone must do it with their eyes open and not just in a burst of enthusiasm martinw From thebarguest@... Thu Oct 2 20:21:24 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:21:24 -0000 Subject: [peel] another wiki question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hopefully the "dogs of audio" would chase some of the thousands of bloggers who are offering whole albums, first. You could argue that a Peel radio show is good "advertising" for obscure albums. The latest I heard on this subject, the rec companies had stopped busting 12-year-old girls and had agreed that the Internet Providers would threaten sharers with excommunication etc. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 15:28 02/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't suppose there is any kind of export > > option for our pages on wikia? > > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/ Special:Export > > > >Cool... > > > >http://www.siteground.com/wiki-hosting.htm > >is $5.95 per month with 750gb of webspace and 7500gb monthly bandwidth > > > >you only get that price if you sign up for three > >years though - so I guess it would need about > >£120 between us and that includes a free domain name... > > Putting the Wiki there is fine - it's just > words. But if you are thinking about > the rips there is an element of risk. None of you owns the copyright to > the music on the rips - the record companies do. The more you put them > in one place the bigger a target you make > I don't wish to rain on your parade but these things do have to be considered > first. If you want to ignore them then fine but everyone must do it with > their eyes open and not just in a burst of enthusiasm > > martinw > From ken_garner@... Thu Oct 2 21:51:25 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:51:25 -0000 Subject: 400 box tapes In-Reply-To: <20081001202650.SSEA29597.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: Peel may of course have been joking! But, to be serious, all commercial radio stations and the BBC - were/are required to keep a record of transmissions for 28 days in case of complaints. But these were normally done back then by a very lo-fi, slow, one and a quarter inch per second reel to reel tape recording (or later on cassette), by engineers in a special (remote) department, and the which tapes were then recycled. They were just to have a record of what were said. I couldn't remember what these tapes were called, so I ran this past retired Radio 1 archivist Phil Lawton last night and he says: "The tapes of speech were commonly known as "snoop" tapes and held as you say in case of a listener's complaint. They were kept from 1-3 months before being wiped." So these tapes to the best of my knowledge were not kept, ever. Producers never saw them - unless there was a complaint they had to answer! Listenable, better quality recordings of shows before the mid-90s (since when in theory every show has been recorded on a CD during transmission in the studio – although often this has not happened!) were only ever done selectively by (a) the BBC Sound Archives as an occasional sample of a show, (b) the national sound archive in Kensington, now part of the British Library, or (c) the individual show producer, who frequently had to keep such tapes at home to avoid the occasional visitations of the tape-wiping police to offices. Example: Sounds of the 70s producer (and good guy) Malcolm Brown, left R1 for an attachment at BBC TV in 75. He came back early in 77, unlocked his office on the third floor of Egton, and was shocked to find his shelves of all his great sessions he had produced himself (Thin Lizzy, Free, Hawkwind, etc etc) had been taken and wiped in his absence in compliance with policy, which valued blank tape a more worthy commodity than any live music recorded on it. Anyway, all this means that until recently, many years, especially from 1970-1990, only have half a dozen complete Peel shows each in the BBC archive. Others (2000, and 1996, for example) have dozens, almost all. The norm is anything between 10 and 30 shows surviving from each year. That is, until recently. Example: a professional BBC sound engineer called Mike Dick recorded over 150 Peel shows complete in high quality reel to reel audio between 1979- 1985, and donated them a couple of years ago. Preservations found an example of the original tape machine Dick had used, and then at Maida Vale got Chris Lycett (Peel's old producer for the middle of that period) in as a consultant, to work his way through them trying to date them, using my old book and his own diaries. I came in half way through this project and helped a bit in clarifying some dates and a few muddles that had crept in. I think most of these shows are now fully digitised and in the system. It was thanks to the Dick collection that Chris, Roger Olive and I found and restored to the archive (and the band - one of them is now a producer at BBC Ulster!) the long lost Protex session from 1979 (TX on show of 19/2/79, a lovely programme, they lent it to me, broadcast after Peel got home after a week in Ireland, to an England covered in snow), for example, originally recorded for the Jensen show and therefore almost certainly lost - i am guessing here - when the tape went back to that programme's office at Egton. I have the list somewhere as an excel spreadsheet, and suspect there is occasional overlap (but not much) with the 400 project here, and Dick also taped the entire second series of Peel's Pleasures! Once the 400 project is complete it would make sense for me to cross check with the Dick collection catalogue before we donate uncompressed files to BBC, to avoid unnecessary duplication. Phil also suggests the right person to give the recordings to is Roger Olive, who can be trusted to look after them, k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > Just sat down tonight to make a start on my second batch of 10 tapes from the 400 box and the first one I listen to has John saying words to the effect of: > > "we tape all these programs so we can listen back to them in the event of me saying something unfortunate..." > > I seem to remember at the start of the 400 box project Ken saying that he didn't think the BBC did tape the shows back then...could there already be copies of these shows in the archive? > > Anyway - not uploaded yet but the 17th September show of which I previously shared the last 20 minutes - is now complete (bar a few missing minutes when the tapes were swapped) > > Will post the link when it's done uploading > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > From ken_garner@... Thu Oct 2 22:11:27 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:11:27 -0000 Subject: another wiki question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i don't want to be a wet blanket, but I think Martin is right to sound a note of caution here. Leaving the audio files for now disaggregated and scattered across numerous personal uploading services makes what we are collectively engaged in less likely to draw attention to itself. Once the 400, 200, etc projects are complete, and we donate the master files to the BBC, then we are out in the open, but we can hardly be attacked for seeking to deepen and preserve the Peel archive. I believe one day some form of official, BBC and family- approved, PRS/MCPS licensed, online Peel archive/trust, including a streaming or download service, will come into existence, possibly functioning via some kind of membership and annual (modest) subscription. But the time is not yet ripe for it. Not quite, anyway k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > Hopefully the "dogs of audio" would chase some of the thousands > of bloggers who are offering whole albums, first. You could argue > that a Peel radio show is good "advertising" for obscure albums. > > The latest I heard on this subject, the rec companies had stopped > busting 12-year-old girls and had agreed that the Internet Providers > would threaten sharers with excommunication etc. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > At 15:28 02/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I don't suppose there is any kind of export > > > option for our pages on wikia? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/ > Special:Export > > > > > >Cool... > > > > > > hosting.htm>http://www.siteground.com/wiki-hosting.htm > > >is $5.95 per month with 750gb of webspace and 7500gb monthly > bandwidth > > > > > >you only get that price if you sign up for three > > >years though - so I guess it would need about > > >£120 between us and that includes a free domain name... > > > > Putting the Wiki there is fine - it's just > > words. But if you are thinking about > > the rips there is an element of risk. None of you owns the > copyright to > > the music on the rips - the record companies do. The more you put > them > > in one place the bigger a target you make > > I don't wish to rain on your parade but these things do have to be > considered > > first. If you want to ignore them then fine but everyone must do > it with > > their eyes open and not just in a burst of enthusiasm > > > > martinw > > > From john.bravin@... Thu Oct 2 23:15:57 2008 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:15:57 +0200 Subject: Non-R1 Peel shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48E53A0D.8050208@...> As promised some time ago a new Non-R1 Peel show from my cassette shoe box. This is from BBC Radio East Anglia (specifically BBC Bedfordshire, BBC Northampton, BBC Norfolk and BBC Cambridgeshire). It is the Peel Christmas show from 1989. Something of a more homely affair than normal, it features some Romanian revolution politics from Peel, an offer to sell his record collection to pay for the re-plastering of his ceilings, and each of the family introducing a favourite record from the year. The tape record level was clearly set too high so there is some distortion particularly on Side A. Nothing I can do about that now. John_Peel_BBC_Radio_East_Anglia_Christmas_1989_A.mp3 John_Peel_BBC_Radio_East_Anglia_Christmas_1989_B.mp3 John From ken_garner@... Thu Oct 2 23:48:39 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:48:39 -0000 Subject: "I stand before you naked" Message-ID: Yes, I can hold out no longer against your torrent of requests: here's Peel's second lunchtime show sitting in for Jakki Brambles in April 93. Perhaps not quite as memorable for witty links as the day before, but once again a terrific show which gets off to a strong start and is notable for the high preponderance of reggae dancehall and ragga tunes of the time. Remember Apache Indian? It's nice to hear Brian Deacon reading the news again (5 years on from my 1988 show!). But my, how dated and cheesy the Radio 1 jingles and trails sound, even in 93. Only one unspeakable record, and it's the one I conveniently fade at the end of the first side of the first C90. Enjoy. k Peel is Brambles #2, 1993-04-06a 12.45-1.30pm.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z0OM0O7J Peel is Brambles #2, 1993-04-06b 1.30-2.15pm.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TL4QF1NU Peel is Brambles #2, 1993-04-06c 2.15-3pm.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I1C8HGQQ From dunelm@... Fri Oct 3 00:22:08 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:22:08 -0000 Subject: Beyond Our Ken Message-ID: About time I tried my hand at this uploading lark. For those who missed it at the time, here's Ken on BBC 6 Music chatting with Nemone about all things Peel. http://rapidshare.com/files/150384304/kennemone20071024.mp3 From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Oct 3 02:45:00 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:45:00 -0000 Subject: "I stand before you naked" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Ken Sorry for pestering you about this, and thank you very much! Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > Yes, I can hold out no longer against your torrent of requests: here's Peel's second lunchtime > show sitting in for Jakki Brambles in April 93. Perhaps not quite as memorable for witty links > as the day before, but once again a terrific show which gets off to a strong start and is > notable for the high preponderance of reggae dancehall and ragga tunes of the time. > Remember Apache Indian? It's nice to hear Brian Deacon reading the news again (5 years on > from my 1988 show!). But my, how dated and cheesy the Radio 1 jingles and trails sound, > even in 93. Only one unspeakable record, and it's the one I conveniently fade at the end of > the first side of the first C90. Enjoy. > > k > > Peel is Brambles #2, 1993-04-06a 12.45-1.30pm.mp3 > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z0OM0O7J > Peel is Brambles #2, 1993-04-06b 1.30-2.15pm.mp3 > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TL4QF1NU > Peel is Brambles #2, 1993-04-06c 2.15-3pm.mp3 > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I1C8HGQQ > From markonnewsgroups@... Fri Oct 3 10:47:19 2008 From: markonnewsgroups@... (markonnewsgroups) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:47:19 -0000 Subject: prog In-Reply-To: <84DC74F2-8234-4604-AD7E-5AE6B5B9DF96@...> Message-ID: > you mean generally? I'm sure there must be some acid house Pink Floyd > remixes somewhere... There's also Easy Star All-Stars' "Dub Side Of The Moon", which I can highly recommend. It's on Amazon. Amazon sent me from that to "Rebuild the Wall" by Luther Wright & The Wrongs, which sounds irresistible! A bluegrass version of "The Wall" - just what it needed, in my admittedly shaky opinion. Best - Mark. From markonnewsgroups@... Fri Oct 3 10:59:13 2008 From: markonnewsgroups@... (markonnewsgroups) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:59:13 -0000 Subject: "I stand before you naked" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks for this! Listening to it as I write - Mark. From eddie.duffy@... Fri Oct 3 11:15:08 2008 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:15:08 +0100 Subject: [peel] Beyond Our Ken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48E5E29C.5060509@...> Many thanks! Love the thread title, too. Thanks also to Ken for Brambles #2. Eddie. dunelm61 wrote: > > About time I tried my hand at this uploading lark. > > For those who missed it at the time, here's Ken on BBC 6 Music chatting > with Nemone about all things Peel. > > http://rapidshare.com/files/150384304/kennemone20071024.mp3 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 01/10/2008 09:05 > > From billfromnorthwales@... Fri Oct 3 22:15:49 2008 From: billfromnorthwales@... (billfromnorthwales) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:15:49 -0000 Subject: Beyond Our Ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great Stuff, If anyone hasn't got the book yet then do buy it as it is excellent http://tiny.cc/0Qx0c http://tiny.cc/b6msF Or put it on you Xmas list! http://tiny.cc/ygrsG --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > About time I tried my hand at this uploading lark. > > For those who missed it at the time, here's Ken on BBC 6 Music chatting > with Nemone about all things Peel. > > http://rapidshare.com/files/150384304/kennemone20071024.mp3 > From lorcan58@... Sat Oct 4 00:22:09 2008 From: lorcan58@... (lorcan58) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:22:09 -0000 Subject: John Peel Fall dedication In-Reply-To: <000601c91dc8$b7985bd0$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Message-ID: According to my recordshe didn't play The Fall in the opening three minutes. He did however play "Kicker Conspiracy" as the fifth track in. Could this have been what he was referring to? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ford" wrote: > Sat 10th Sept 1994: Rugrat and Blubber in session. > I was listening to this on cassette today. Part-way through the show John points out that the Fall track he played at the beginning of the show should have been dedicated to someone who styles himself Fordy, for his birthday on the 14th. > > But guess what - I missed the first 3 mins of the show, so I don't know which Fall track it was. > > Can anyone help? > > Regards > > Fordy > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 4 08:55:21 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:55:21 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (08 September 1995) Message-ID: Fellow Peelites A very good quality (but still mono) complete show. Date: Friday 8 September 1995 Session artists: Murmur (plus Prolapse live at the Reading Festival) Links: Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VPOENN7C Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TT03118J Part 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBWJV5DX Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VPOENN7C Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_September_1995 JP plays a Fall track (no surprise there), but makes no mention of its title or provenance, and I'm ashamed to say I don't know, so if you could fill that in and cover my shame, thank you. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] From saipanda@... Sat Oct 4 10:01:30 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:01:30 -0000 Subject: thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to say a big thanks to all those who have shared shows here over the past couple of days, and in recent times generally, as well as the 400 Box rippers for their continuing hard work. Great stuff. Cheers! Steve W From lists@... Sat Oct 4 10:33:54 2008 From: lists@... (llrc057) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:33:54 -0000 Subject: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 Message-ID: Just uploaded the second batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html Latest additions denoted by * Regards Gary From martinw@... Sat Oct 4 10:55:44 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:55:44 +0100 Subject: Perfumed Garden Message-ID: A historical question! I'm just listening to today's Sounds Of The Sixties on Radio 2 It's a special edition playing session racks from Saturday Club He's just played John's Children 'Perfumed Garden' which of course included Marc Bolan Given the close friendship between John and Marc I wondered what came first - the song or the radio prog name? martinw From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Sat Oct 4 11:55:20 2008 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (stephen phythian) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:55:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <595790.33761.qm@...> I second that. We've been a bit spoiled of late and tend to forget the hard work that goes into producing them. So a big shout out from me too!   spp --- On Sat, 4/10/08, saipanda wrote: From: saipanda Subject: [peel] thanks To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 4 October, 2008, 9:01 AM Just to say a big thanks to all those who have shared shows here over the past couple of days, and in recent times generally, as well as the 400 Box rippers for their continuing hard work. Great stuff. Cheers! Steve W From lists@... Sat Oct 4 13:15:57 2008 From: lists@... (llrc057) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:15:57 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No problem Steve. Regards Gary --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > Welcome to the group. > > > > anyone want to help a newbie get some Festive Fifty broadcasts? > > Reckon your first stop should be Gary's excellent server: > http://www.30242.net/ > > Incidentally, Gary, if you read this, is it OK with you if I put links to the server on the Wiki > F50 date pages for the various years, once I get them sorted out? Think we already have > such links for Andrew's 90s tapes. > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > PS Further to Mark Whitby's message the other day, let me throw in a hearty > recommendation for his F50 book. Amazing stuff! > From lists@... Sat Oct 4 13:23:40 2008 From: lists@... (llrc057) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:23:40 -0000 Subject: [peel] another wiki question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wouldn't use 'SiteGround' again. I didn't have a good experience with them in the past. PM offline me if you want to know more. Regards Gary --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 15:28 02/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't suppose there is any kind of export > > option for our pages on wikia? > > > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Export > > > >Cool... > > > >http://www.siteground.com/wiki- hosting.htm > >is $5.95 per month with 750gb of webspace and 7500gb monthly bandwidth > > > >you only get that price if you sign up for three > >years though - so I guess it would need about > >£120 between us and that includes a free domain name... > > Putting the Wiki there is fine - it's just > words. But if you are thinking about > the rips there is an element of risk. None of you owns the copyright to > the music on the rips - the record companies do. The more you put them > in one place the bigger a target you make > I don't wish to rain on your parade but these things do have to be considered > first. If you want to ignore them then fine but everyone must do it with > their eyes open and not just in a burst of enthusiasm > > martinw > From rushomancy@... Sat Oct 4 14:27:09 2008 From: rushomancy@... (rushomancy) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:27:09 -0000 Subject: prog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "markonnewsgroups" wrote: > > > > you mean generally? I'm sure there must be some acid house Pink Floyd > > remixes somewhere... > > There's also Easy Star All-Stars' "Dub Side Of The Moon", which I > can highly recommend. It's on Amazon. > > Amazon sent me from that to "Rebuild the Wall" by Luther Wright & The > Wrongs, which sounds irresistible! A bluegrass version of "The Wall" > - just what it needed, in my admittedly shaky opinion. > > > Best - Mark. > All right, folks, since there's been discussion of this topic lately, I guess I will have to come out of hiding and admit to knowing way, way too much about prog. First off, regarding Yes remixes, cover your ears: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Remixes I can't stand Yes, personally, but even if you are into them, the word on this is apparently not good. I know there's some debate on whether or not Can qualify as prog, but if you're inclined to the "yea" side of that one, there is of course the fairly spotty 2 CD remix set that came out in the late '90s. Also from the late 90s are the aforementioned Pink Floyd "Trance Remixes", released anonymously as bootleg CDs. It's often claimed that the remixes are by the Orb, but such claims are pretty dubious and I'd be surprised if that turned out to be the case. Quality on them ranges widely from pretty decent (the Atom Heart Mother and Meddle remixes) to utterly dire (the Animals remix, which features a remix of "Dogs" where the opening line of the song is looped for about half an hour with pretty much nothing else whatsoever done to the track). Finally, while not a remix, per se, it is worth noting that Madlib has a great fondness for prog rock, and has quite a few songs that sample Gentle Giant. (Also a huge fan of Gentle Giant, back in the day: Sherman Helmsley. No lie.) From saipanda@... Sat Oct 4 14:34:54 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:34:54 -0000 Subject: Question about track 20 in 1996 and 1997 Festive 50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cheers, Gary. That's great. Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "llrc057" wrote: > > No problem Steve. > > Regards > Gary > From grafpoo@... Sat Oct 4 15:15:53 2008 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:15:53 -0400 Subject: [peel] 500 Box: new show (08 September 1995) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From ken_garner@... Sat Oct 4 16:08:31 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:08:31 -0000 Subject: Mr Pedant Strikes Again, Re: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Gary and Andrew! But in there, the August 1989 show featuring a repeat of The Telescopes is actually from the 29th, the Thursday, not the 28th as dated on the website and file name. There was no show on the 28th. This is a giveaway from Peel's opening link "Apologies about last night's show.. I did not discover until Saturday that I was surplus to requirements". The show also sounds to me pre-recorded, as the show normally was on a Wednesday night (but this week clearly held over to the Thursday) throughout the 80s. Regular listeners spotted this at the time and could always spot the difference, and Peel apologised often after the event for how he had sounded. In the pre-recorded shows, Peel was always sounding as though he was trying harder and had pre-scripted his links, and there were no obviously live oblique comments on the news, that night's football, or what was happening on telly in the studio. k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "llrc057" wrote: > > Just uploaded the second batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: > > www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html > > Latest additions denoted by * > > Regards > Gary > From rockerq@... Sat Oct 4 16:45:18 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:45:18 EDT Subject: [peel] Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 Message-ID: Thanks for doing these! I am having problems downloading the Flacs - in that the download stream seems to just give up a few MB into the download so I end up with a bunch of incomplete files. Looking back I discover that all my previous downloads from the site have been doing the same (I just hadn't noticed before) Am using Firefox on MacOS 10.5 - latest versions of both! And never get probs with other sites. Anyone else had probs? Cheers! Rocker > < > www.30242b.net/ www.30242b. www > > Latest additions denoted by * > > Regards > Gary>> From ken_garner@... Sat Oct 4 19:19:57 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:19:57 -0000 Subject: Were Mania D of Berlin Peel's "Queens of Noise"/ and if so, in what year? Message-ID: I've had a query I can't answer from a writer called Val Phoenix, researching a book on women in underground music, and is trying to track down when exactly in Peel's shows he might have played the one and only single by a band from Berlin called Mania D, who were active 1979-1981 apparently, and in what year and in what medium (the show? an article? Sounds column?) he allegedly called them his "Queens of Noise" and said the record was his favourite of the year? Does this ring a bell with anyone? Has the record popped up being played on any of the 400 Box tapes, for example? ...a quick web search suggests the lineup was Gudrun Gut, Bettina Koester and Beate Bartel, two of whom had been in the first version of Einsturzende Neubarten, and after Mania D, they formed a band called Malaria in 1981... k From roger.carruthers@... Sat Oct 4 19:21:23 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:21:23 +0100 Subject: [OT but neat] Play flacs in iTunes Message-ID: Seeing as there are quite a few shows in flac format kicking around now, Mac users in the group might be glad to know of a bit of freeware that enables you to play flacs directly from iTunes. It's called Fluke, and you can get it here: http://cubicfruit.com/fluke/ I know you're supposed to be able to do this using the Xiph QT components, but it's never worked for me, whereas this does. (Xiph is still worth getting for the Ogg support, mind), Cheers Roger From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 4 20:01:49 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:01:49 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (08 September 1995) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear all Whoops! Sorry about that. The links are: Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=REBOM3R0 Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TT03118J Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBWJV5DX Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VPOENN7C As JP says at some point in this show after reading something out incorrectly, 'You can't be hot all the time'!! Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "john guthrie" wrote: > > er, you posted the same link for parts 1 and 4 - it's part 4 i think, so we > need part 1's link. > > thanks. > > john > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Steve wrote: > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > A very good quality (but still mono) complete show. > > > > Date: Friday 8 September 1995 > > Session artists: Murmur (plus Prolapse live at the Reading Festival) > > Links: > > Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VPOENN7C > > Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TT03118J > > Part 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBWJV5DX > > Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VPOENN7C > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_September_1995 > > > > JP plays a Fall track (no surprise there), but makes no mention of its > > title or provenance, and I'm ashamed to say I don't know, so if you > > could fill that in and cover my shame, thank you. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Sun Oct 5 00:08:33 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:08:33 -0000 Subject: Mr Pedant Strikes Again, Re: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The tape is in the loft again, so I can't confirm if I wrote the wrong date on the cassette or on the wav file (those ladders are a bugger to get upstairs yknow) bit chaotic that week with his 50th and all... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > Thanks, Gary and Andrew! But in there, the August 1989 show featuring a repeat of The > Telescopes is actually from the 29th, the Thursday, not the 28th as dated on the website > and file name. There was no show on the 28th. > > This is a giveaway from Peel's opening link "Apologies about last night's show.. I did not > discover until Saturday that I was surplus to requirements". The show also sounds to me > pre-recorded, as the show normally was on a Wednesday night (but this week clearly held > over to the Thursday) throughout the 80s. Regular listeners spotted this at the time and > could always spot the difference, and Peel apologised often after the event for how he had > sounded. In the pre-recorded shows, Peel was always sounding as though he was trying > harder and had pre-scripted his links, and there were no obviously live oblique comments > on the news, that night's football, or what was happening on telly in the studio. > > k > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "llrc057" wrote: > > > > Just uploaded the second batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: > > > > www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html > > > > Latest additions denoted by * > > > > Regards > > Gary > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Sun Oct 5 13:51:33 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:51:33 -0000 Subject: Peelenium Message-ID: 1901 up and running at http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1901 Cheers Andrew From rockerq@... Sun Oct 5 23:46:54 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:46:54 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Record Box Message-ID: > < don't have (like a > few other people, I think) is "Old Smokie" by The Fireman, which you seem to > have. Any > chance of a ripped copy? Digital pic of the label/sleeve as a bonus? > > Other ones I couldn't find any artwork for are Al Ferrier, Johnnie Taylor, > Marc Bolan, Mickie > Lee Lane, Paul Blake, Ray Martin, Revelino, Sasha Caro, The Factory, The > Legion Of Super- > Heroes, The Versatiles/Lee Perry, Yami Bolo.>> > Yeah - I discovered there are two 7" by Firmen on Le Cam, both are numbered 951, one has "Louie's Theme" b/w "Big Swede", the other has "Louie's Theme" b/w "Old Smokie" - I now have a copy of each, and in fact played "Old Smokie" as my Peel's Big 45 in my August Show. Have put an AIFF of "Old Smokie" on my iDisc - mail me offlist if you need the url! One day soon, when I get some time, I'll try to remember to photograph the sleeves / labels and put them up as well. I am hopeful of getting The Misunderstood 7", but I think the others will be quite unlikely! Cheers! Rocker From rockerq@... Sun Oct 5 23:52:48 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:52:48 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Record Box Message-ID: er... that's "Firemen" of course Rocker From saipanda@... Mon Oct 6 21:19:39 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:19:39 -0000 Subject: Mr Pedant Strikes Again, Re: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, just to check, Ken, but when you say the show was on a Thursday, is it not Tuesday 29th with the Monday show being cancelled? Maybe I'm confusing this somewhere. Many thanks to Rocker for The Firemen and Andrew for the 1901 Peelenium! The variety of the Peel music world is always amazing. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > Thanks, Gary and Andrew! But in there, the August 1989 show featuring a repeat of The > Telescopes is actually from the 29th, the Thursday, not the 28th as dated on the website > and file name. There was no show on the 28th. > From ken_garner@... Mon Oct 6 21:57:30 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:57:30 -0000 Subject: Mr Pedant Strikes Again, Re: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ...(fumbles with glasses this time before picking up book) ... oops, yes, of course, that's right: the Monday 28/8/89 show was cancelled (Bank Holiday); the Tuesday 29th with The Telescopes repeat - andrew's tape - was pre-recorded earlier that day, obviously now I think about it so Walters could get Peel down to the surprise 50th birthday gig at subteranea that night; the recording of that party went out on wed 30th as we know; then on Thurs 31st it was the show with Where's The Beach that Peel had also pre-recorded on the 29th thinking it was for his birthday. Thank goodness that's clear! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Sorry, just to check, Ken, but when you say the show was on a Thursday, is it not Tuesday > 29th with the Monday show being cancelled? Maybe I'm confusing this somewhere. > > Many thanks to Rocker for The Firemen and Andrew for the 1901 Peelenium! The variety of > the Peel music world is always amazing. > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > Thanks, Gary and Andrew! But in there, the August 1989 show featuring a repeat of The > > Telescopes is actually from the 29th, the Thursday, not the 28th as dated on the website > > and file name. There was no show on the 28th. > > > From billfromnorthwales@... Tue Oct 7 00:12:42 2008 From: billfromnorthwales@... (billfromnorthwales) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:12:42 -0000 Subject: 30242.net Message-ID: Hello there. I have ripped 10 cassettes from the ebay 400 box, and I am now finishing my second 10. The raw capture files are in flac format and I have returned those to rocker on a DVD I have speed corrected and assembled the tapes into shows The shows in the first batch were Peel 1978-10-11 (part).mp3 Peel 1978-10-18 (part).mp3 Peel 1978-10-20 (part).mp3 Peel 1978-10-23.mp3 Peel 1978-10-25 (part).mp3 Peel 1978-10-31.mp3 Peel 1978-11-2 (part).mp3 I would like to upload these to 30242.net. THis seems the perfect repository for the shows How could I do this? Bill From abcdetc@... Tue Oct 7 05:22:17 2008 From: abcdetc@... (Ben Harrison) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:22:17 +0800 Subject: Fwd: VIVA PEEL: Does This Show Stop On Merseyside? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Oct 7 08:20:03 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:20:03 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (20 January 1999) Message-ID: Fellow Peelites I've done my best with this one, but there was some distortion and FM static on the original tape...and it's in mono. Still worth it for the session, I think you'll agree. Show date: Wednesday 20 January 1999 Session artist: Caroline Martin Download links: Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4EV4P3KB Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1K6F788D Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_January_1999 Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] From AndrewThezmore@... Tue Oct 7 08:53:06 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:53:06 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (20 January 1999) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice one Steve, thanks. I remember listening to this show, the only time I ever heard him play Vini Reilly. (I've seen early 80s playlists with DC included, but they were a little before my time.) While you are on with the 500 box, I noticed that you have got the 2002 Festive 50 in your sights - this one is already available at Gary's site if you wanted to avoid duplicating currently available shows. Cheers Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > I've done my best with this one, but there was some distortion and FM > static on the original tape...and it's in mono. Still worth it for the > session, I think you'll agree. > > Show date: Wednesday 20 January 1999 > Session artist: Caroline Martin > Download links: > Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4EV4P3KB > Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1K6F788D > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_January_1999 > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > From mar.celle@... Tue Oct 7 10:08:20 2008 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:08:20 +0200 Subject: Today and this week on Another Nice Mess Message-ID: <001601c92853$e02e7f30$9600000a@PC154981710422> Hi there, today and this week on Another Nice Mess, the only weekly three hour live radio show done in Peel's spirit (and which has been running for more than 20 years): * Robert Wyatt guesting on Barbara Morgenstern's new album * Death Sentence: Panda! (Chinese folk meets Melt Banana) * New dubstep 12''s by amongst others Mrk1 and Dusk & Blackdown * The Great Leap Forward's first album in nearly 20 years! * Great D.I.Y. poppunk from The Lovely Eggs, who like to fall of bicycles * Weird gabba from I:Gor * Great techno from Gaiser on Minus! * Indie guitars fom Fortuna Pop! * Beauty from Static Caravan label * Devastating breakcore from Rioteer * Songs about communism by Istari Lasterfahrer!! Oldies/requests: Depth Charge, Benjamin Lew/Steven Brown, Orange Juice, Kai Ray A session by Leipzig dubstepper DJ I.R. And much much more cutting edge, surprising stuff besides!! For INFO/REQUESTS mail Marcelle at: info@... She broadcasts LIVE from home, so she might play your requested song (almost) instantly! ANOTHER NICE MESS ''Indispensable listening'' ''If you're missing Peel, allow this to feed you'' ''Marcelle could have been a great teacher in a class of 'curiosity'!'' ''Always good music in all styles!'' (Mick Patrick, Scotland) (Sarah Nelson, England) (Peter-Max Jacobsen, Denmark) (Georgedelajungla, Spain) DFM Radio, 6th October 2008 LISTEN LIVE online: www.dfm.nu every Tuesday between 19-22 hours CET (Dutch time) / 18-21 hours BST (UK time) LISTEN (AGAIN) AT ANY OTHER TIME via www.anothernicemess.com WEBSITE: www.anothernicemess.com From thebarguest@... Tue Oct 7 14:19:24 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:19:24 -0000 Subject: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Gary ! I'm afraid the mp3 listed as 14th Sept doesn't d/l apart from a couple of hundred Kb. Maybe its corrupt. Plus, the files from that show are dated 901014.... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "llrc057" wrote: > > Just uploaded the second batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: > > www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html > > Latest additions denoted by * > > Regards > Gary > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Oct 7 14:49:32 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:49:32 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (20 January 1999) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Andrew Glad you enjoyed the show, despite my misgivings! I am aware of the file you mention, and I also appreciate you trying to save me a lot of work: however, I downloaded the file in question and it is Real Audio at 32 kbps: I was hoping to be able to improve on that quality, with all due respect to Gary for making it available in the first place. What do you all think? Is it worth my while doing it? Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > Nice one Steve, thanks. I remember listening to this show, the only > time I ever heard him play Vini Reilly. (I've seen early 80s playlists > with DC included, but they were a little before my time.) > > While you are on with the 500 box, I noticed that you have got the 2002 > Festive 50 in your sights - this one is already available at Gary's > site if you wanted to avoid duplicating currently available shows. > > Cheers > Andrew > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > I've done my best with this one, but there was some distortion and FM > > static on the original tape...and it's in mono. Still worth it for the > > session, I think you'll agree. > > > > Show date: Wednesday 20 January 1999 > > Session artist: Caroline Martin > > Download links: > > Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4EV4P3KB > > Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1K6F788D > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_January_1999 > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > From peterlocum@... Tue Oct 7 16:45:28 2008 From: peterlocum@... (peterlocum) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:45:28 -0000 Subject: John died 25 October 2004 Message-ID: Hi, I'm sure everyone is aware of the sad anniversary coming up. Just wondered if anyone knows of anything on telly or radio this year about John this year Thanks From AndrewThezmore@... Tue Oct 7 20:11:26 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:11:26 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (20 January 1999) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, I hadn't downloaded that FF2002 show myself so wasn't aware of the format. I've got a feeling that much of 2002 is available, so I wouldn't be surprised if somebody can already offer a reasonably high quality version of this? I've got this on minidisc, but probably only the FF not the whole show. As the bbc seem to have taken Peel day as far as they think they are expected to, I was wondering how(if?) everyone would be marking the occasion this year? I think I'll listen to Dandelion for a while then stick an old Peel show on at ten and have a couple of whiskeys. (Got a flexi on Friday, so might even make it a 3hr show.) Tidy, like. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Dear Andrew > > Glad you enjoyed the show, despite my misgivings! I am aware of the > file you mention, and I also appreciate you trying to save me a lot of > work: however, I downloaded the file in question and it is Real Audio > at 32 kbps: I was hoping to be able to improve on that quality, with > all due respect to Gary for making it available in the first place. > What do you all think? Is it worth my while doing it? > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > > > Nice one Steve, thanks. I remember listening to this show, the only > > time I ever heard him play Vini Reilly. (I've seen early 80s playlists > > with DC included, but they were a little before my time.) > > > > While you are on with the 500 box, I noticed that you have got the 2002 > > Festive 50 in your sights - this one is already available at Gary's > > site if you wanted to avoid duplicating currently available shows. > > > > Cheers > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > > > I've done my best with this one, but there was some distortion and FM > > > static on the original tape...and it's in mono. Still worth it for the > > > session, I think you'll agree. > > > > > > Show date: Wednesday 20 January 1999 > > > Session artist: Caroline Martin > > > Download links: > > > Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4EV4P3KB > > > Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1K6F788D > > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_January_1999 > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > From roger.carruthers@... Tue Oct 7 21:35:00 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:35:00 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 500 Box: new show (20 January 1999) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think I have it, or some of it on DAT somewhere; it¹s on my to do list, Cheers Roger PS. ŒTidy, like¹? - does this mean I¹m not the only Peeler in Wales ? ;-) On 07/10/2008 19:11, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > > > Ah, I hadn't downloaded that FF2002 show myself so wasn't aware of > the format. I've got a feeling that much of 2002 is available, so I > wouldn't be surprised if somebody can already offer a reasonably high > quality version of this? I've got this on minidisc, but probably only > the FF not the whole show. > > As the bbc seem to have taken Peel day as far as they think they are > expected to, I was wondering how(if?) everyone would be marking the > occasion this year? I think I'll listen to Dandelion for a while then > stick an old Peel show on at ten and have a couple of whiskeys. (Got > a flexi on Friday, so might even make it a 3hr show.) Tidy, like. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Steve" > wrote: >> > >> > Dear Andrew >> > >> > Glad you enjoyed the show, despite my misgivings! I am aware of the >> > file you mention, and I also appreciate you trying to save me a lot > of >> > work: however, I downloaded the file in question and it is Real > Audio >> > at 32 kbps: I was hoping to be able to improve on that quality, with >> > all due respect to Gary for making it available in the first place. >> > What do you all think? Is it worth my while doing it? >> > >> > Best wishes >> > Steve [Teenage Kicks] >> > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , >> "andrewthezmore" > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Nice one Steve, thanks. I remember listening to this show, the > only >>> > > time I ever heard him play Vini Reilly. (I've seen early 80s > playlists >>> > > with DC included, but they were a little before my time.) >>> > > >>> > > While you are on with the 500 box, I noticed that you have got > the 2002 >>> > > Festive 50 in your sights - this one is already available at > Gary's >>> > > site if you wanted to avoid duplicating currently available shows. >>> > > >>> > > Cheers >>> > > Andrew >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Steve" >>> wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Fellow Peelites >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I've done my best with this one, but there was some distortion > and FM >>>> > > > static on the original tape...and it's in mono. Still worth it > for the >>>> > > > session, I think you'll agree. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Show date: Wednesday 20 January 1999 >>>> > > > Session artist: Caroline Martin >>>> > > > Download links: >>>> > > > Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4EV4P3KB >>>> > > > Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1K6F788D >>>> > > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/20_January_1999 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Best wishes >>>> > > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] >>>> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > From martinw@... Tue Oct 7 17:20:43 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:20:43 +0100 Subject: [peel] John died 25 October 2004 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 15:45 07/10/2008, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'm sure everyone is aware of the sad anniversary coming up. >Just wondered if anyone knows of anything on telly or radio this year >about John this year > >Thanks I think one of the forthcoming Electric Proms is a Peel Night martinw From janbuxton@... Tue Oct 7 22:16:12 2008 From: janbuxton@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:16:12 +0100 Subject: [peel] John died 25 October 2004 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/10/7 Martin Wheatley : > At 15:45 07/10/2008, you wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I'm sure everyone is aware of the sad anniversary coming up. >>Just wondered if anyone knows of anything on telly or radio this year >>about John this year >> >>Thanks > > I think one of the forthcoming Electric Proms is a Peel Night Yep, Thursday 23rd, Milanese, Rolo Tomassi, 2 Hot 2 Sweat. http://www.bbc.co.uk/electricproms/ -- Jan http://janb1982.blogspot.com/ http://rateyourmusic.com/~janb http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Wed Oct 8 13:10:26 2008 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (theallnewadventuresofspp) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:10:26 -0000 Subject: Polvo Sessions Message-ID: I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought i'd put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) http://rapidshare.com/files/151985171/polvo.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/151986570/polvo2.zip From lollygagger@... Wed Oct 8 13:54:22 2008 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:54:22 +0100 Subject: ebay 400 tapes batch 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rocker and All I started ripping tapes to digital format a little later than most of the other rippers so I have just finished ripping the 10 cassettes I was sent. Not that this is a race or anything. I am about to return the cassettes back to Rocker. These were recorded using flac and mp3 on a dvd. These are: 02-07-78 02-08-79 06-08-79prt2 16-07-79 25-09-78 30-07-7900 30-07-79 31-07-79prt1 31-07-79 I don't know if Rocker has decided on the format of the file names. I just used the dates as file names as they were on the cassettes. These might be re-named later to fit in with the other tapes so that there is some form of consistency. I would imagine that if all of Peely's shows were put on one downloadable site, they would be put in year, month, week order, so the importance of titling files would become more apparent. Regards Gordon From roger.carruthers@... Wed Oct 8 14:12:13 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:12:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] ebay 400 tapes batch 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <581669.34393.qm@...> For naming, I've gone with 'Peel yymmdd', with suffixes a,b,c etc. for the sides and if they're spread over a number of tapes eg. 'Peel 790604d' would be the second side of tape 2 of 04/06/79. For the .flac versions I think we agreed to keeping the recordings as they come, ie. no pitch correction or noise reduction and not stitched together. What you do with the .mp3 version is up to you, which is why I've yet to upload any of those I've done (OK, I did one), as most of them are going to need a fair bit of sweetening. cheers Roger --- On Wed, 8/10/08, lollygagger wrote: > From: lollygagger > Subject: [peel] ebay 400 tapes batch 1 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 12:54 PM > Hi Rocker and All > > I started ripping tapes to digital format a little later > than most of the other rippers so I have just finished > ripping the 10 cassettes I was sent. Not that this is a race > or anything. > > I am about to return the cassettes back to Rocker. These > were recorded using flac and mp3 on a dvd. These are: > > 02-07-78 > 02-08-79 > 06-08-79prt2 > 16-07-79 > 25-09-78 > 30-07-7900 > 30-07-79 > 31-07-79prt1 > 31-07-79 > > I don't know if Rocker has decided on the format of the > file names. I just used the dates as file names as they were > on the cassettes. These might be re-named later to fit in > with the other tapes so that there is some form of > consistency. I would imagine that if all of Peely's > shows were put on one downloadable site, they would be put > in year, month, week order, so the importance of titling > files would become more apparent. > > Regards > > Gordon From lollygagger@... Wed Oct 8 15:34:17 2008 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:34:17 +0100 Subject: [peel] ebay 400 tapes batch 1 In-Reply-To: <581669.34393.qm@...> References: <581669.34393.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Roger Yes I resisted the temptation to adjust the recording in anyway but then again these are A.M. mono recordings. If no other improved copies of these progs appear, maybe in time, there might be better software for simulating stereo i.e. adjusting one channel slightly different to the other while more successfully and realistically adjusting frequency levels. We shall see. I have included the mp3 versions on the dvd as this is the format that is currently being uploaded (personally I prefer ogg) or exchanged via the web by most of the members in the peely group. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: ROGER CARRUTHERS To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [peel] ebay 400 tapes batch 1 For naming, I've gone with 'Peel yymmdd', with suffixes a,b,c etc. for the sides and if they're spread over a number of tapes eg. 'Peel 790604d' would be the second side of tape 2 of 04/06/79. For the .flac versions I think we agreed to keeping the recordings as they come, ie. no pitch correction or noise reduction and not stitched together. What you do with the .mp3 version is up to you, which is why I've yet to upload any of those I've done (OK, I did one), as most of them are going to need a fair bit of sweetening. cheers Roger --- On Wed, 8/10/08, lollygagger wrote: > From: lollygagger > Subject: [peel] ebay 400 tapes batch 1 > To: peel@...m > Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 12:54 PM > Hi Rocker and All > > I started ripping tapes to digital format a little later > than most of the other rippers so I have just finished > ripping the 10 cassettes I was sent. Not that this is a race > or anything. > > I am about to return the cassettes back to Rocker. These > were recorded using flac and mp3 on a dvd. These are: > > 02-07-78 > 02-08-79 > 06-08-79prt2 > 16-07-79 > 25-09-78 > 30-07-7900 > 30-07-79 > 31-07-79prt1 > 31-07-79 > > I don't know if Rocker has decided on the format of the > file names. I just used the dates as file names as they were > on the cassettes. These might be re-named later to fit in > with the other tapes so that there is some form of > consistency. I would imagine that if all of Peely's > shows were put on one downloadable site, they would be put > in year, month, week order, so the importance of titling > files would become more apparent. > > Regards > > Gordon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 08/10/2008 07:01 From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Oct 9 05:01:40 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:01:40 -0000 Subject: The Peel Sessions Poll 2008 Message-ID: Fellow Peelites As I hinted last year, I am compiling a list of all-time favourite Peel Sessions. Since some complained that three tracks alone was not enough for a reasonable choice, I offer you five. Please vote in numbers, so that I can make a presentable chart. The form for voting is avaibale here, along with the details. http://festivefifty.blogspot.com/2008/10/2008-peel-sessions-poll.html Last date for voting: 30 November. I hope you will support me now as you did then! Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] From abcdetc@... Thu Oct 9 07:37:38 2008 From: abcdetc@... (Ben Harrison) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:37:38 +0800 Subject: Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) Message-ID: From mark.whitby2@... Thu Oct 9 10:20:49 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:20:49 +0100 Subject: [peel] Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) References: Message-ID: <92A7DAA5682A46EC8113365C4D76AF1D@your904q9zk0ar> And a happy John Peel Day to everyone from me too. Just belatedly to let everyone here know that we're keeping it Peel at the Buffs in Runcorn tomorrow night (Friday) with Calvin Party headlining, and support from 13 Amp and Sleeping John Hancell, plus DJ set from Dandelion's Pete Jackson. £4 and any proceeds (assuming we make anything) to fund donations split between two charities. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Harrison To: peel@yahoogroups.com ; ben Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:37 AM Subject: [peel] Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) Happy John Peel Day. Am thoroughly enjoying listening to the Peel tribute by Singapore-based broadcasters unpopular-music (http://unpopular-music.blogspot.com/) and all-the-more enamored with the discovery that one can actually hear their shows without having to download anything or owt like that. It can be both heard online AND downloaded at http://www.zshare.net/audio/2008640753516188/ It starts with The Fall, goes onto to a song called 'Does This Train Stop on Merseyside' and then features some Axl Rose-bait with the first airing of a song from that long-awaited 'Chinese Democracy' album (except it's by Etc) and then there's The Padres; Cribs (featuring Lee Ranaldo); Force Vomit; Robert Wyatt; The Karl Maka; Cuban Boys; John Peel himself... and lots lots more. And remember to keep it Peel. From abcdetc@... Thu Oct 9 10:54:12 2008 From: abcdetc@... (Ben Harrison) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:54:12 +0800 Subject: [peel] Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) In-Reply-To: <92A7DAA5682A46EC8113365C4D76AF1D@your904q9zk0ar> References: <92A7DAA5682A46EC8113365C4D76AF1D@your904q9zk0ar> Message-ID: From mark.whitby2@... Thu Oct 9 11:24:14 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:24:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) References: <92A7DAA5682A46EC8113365C4D76AF1D@your904q9zk0ar> Message-ID: <9E6ED061FDCD42079DE98622D3D6F91B@your904q9zk0ar> Thanks. I just hope I can get the local population out to it. It's a great one for me to put on because I put on The Levellers (before they were renamed Levellers 5 and subsequently Calvin Party) in a pub in Widnes, must have been about twenty years ago. There were about thirty people in there and they totally shocked everyone. I was pleased when I asked them about this gig that John Donaldson actually remembered the Widnes gig. They've been a great band to deal with as well, totally genuine and reasonable about everything. Really hope I can get a crowd in for them. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Harrison To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [peel] Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) I remember my first thought as I excitedly heard Calvin Party for the first time on the World Service. It was along the lines of 'I bet they didn't imagine people would be hearing this in Singapore!' Have great one in Runcorn. Had I the dosh to make it, believe me, I'd be tempted. Our Kuala Lumpur show this weekend is looking sufficiently shakey that drummer's is not even going to bother. Fair do in this context. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Mark Whitby wrote: And a happy John Peel Day to everyone from me too. Just belatedly to let everyone here know that we're keeping it Peel at the Buffs in Runcorn tomorrow night (Friday) with Calvin Party headlining, and support from 13 Amp and Sleeping John Hancell, plus DJ set from Dandelion's Pete Jackson. £4 and any proceeds (assuming we make anything) to fund donations split between two charities. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Harrison To: peel@yahoogroups.com ; ben Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:37 AM Subject: [peel] Happy John Peel Day (mark it with a podcast) Happy John Peel Day. Am thoroughly enjoying listening to the Peel tribute by Singapore-based broadcasters unpopular-music (http://unpopular-music.blogspot.com/) and all-the-more enamored with the discovery that one can actually hear their shows without having to download anything or owt like that. It can be both heard online AND downloaded at http://www.zshare.net/audio/2008640753516188/ It starts with The Fall, goes onto to a song called 'Does This Train Stop on Merseyside' and then features some Axl Rose-bait with the first airing of a song from that long-awaited 'Chinese Democracy' album (except it's by Etc) and then there's The Padres; Cribs (featuring Lee Ranaldo); Force Vomit; Robert Wyatt; The Karl Maka; Cuban Boys; John Peel himself... and lots lots more. And remember to keep it Peel. From thebarguest@... Thu Oct 9 15:15:19 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:15:19 -0000 Subject: Magazine reformed Message-ID: Couldn't believe my eyes yesterday - Peel faves Magazine (seminal Manchester band 1977-81) will play several gigs in London and Glasgow early next year ! If anyone knows of any good,cheap hotels around Kentish Town or Glasgow, please ..... Bye The Great Man From ken_garner@... Thu Oct 9 22:12:15 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:12:15 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" Message-ID: As an early treat for those of us who can't go out on Peel Night, here's a complete show from early 1992 which featured heavily in chapter 1 of In Session Tonight – and I have posted to the files section of the news group site the relevant extracts from that out-of- print work. This was the show which featured the debut `freakout' session by Spiritualized, and several other scoops as well: three tracks from The Fall's new 12-inch; three tracks from the forthcoming new LP by P J Harvey `Dry'; three tracks from the new Pavement LP `Slanted and Enchanted'; three from The Meathooks; and a repeat of Leatherface's session. Added to that in the first ten minutes a treat for those trying to collect everything in John Peel's Singles Box, I think. All in all, with the benefit of hindsight this is clearly a very newsworthy, busy and noisy show. Enjoy! ken Peel 1992-03-14a http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82BPT7AT Peel 1992-03-14b http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8HM1KSLJ Peel 1992-03-14c http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTQNKNM1 Peel 1992-03-14d http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COB4RZ0M From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Oct 10 04:56:53 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:56:53 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks again Ken! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > As an early treat for those of us who can't go out on Peel Night, here's a complete show > from early 1992 which featured heavily in chapter 1 of In Session Tonight – and I have > posted to the files section of the news group site the relevant extracts from that out-of- > print work. This was the show which featured the debut `freakout' session by Spiritualized, > and several other scoops as well: three tracks from The Fall's new 12-inch; three tracks > from the forthcoming new LP by P J Harvey `Dry'; three tracks from the new Pavement LP > `Slanted and Enchanted'; three from The Meathooks; and a repeat of Leatherface's session. > Added to that in the first ten minutes a treat for those trying to collect everything in John > Peel's Singles Box, I think. All in all, with the benefit of hindsight this is clearly a very > newsworthy, busy and noisy show. Enjoy! > > ken > > > > Peel 1992-03-14a > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82BPT7AT > Peel 1992-03-14b > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8HM1KSLJ > Peel 1992-03-14c > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTQNKNM1 > Peel 1992-03-14d > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COB4RZ0M > From saipanda@... Fri Oct 10 09:43:40 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:43:40 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks, Ken! Excellent to get the missing Singles Box track and get an idea of why it was in there, among other treats. Would love to read the IST extract, but somehow I don't seem to be able to read it on my computer at home at here at work. Not sure if anyone else is having similar problems, but would apprecaite it if someone could convert it to another format and repost it in the Files section. Happy John Peel Day, everyone. Steve W From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Oct 10 16:51:35 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:51:35 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is it just me? I have tried to download the fourth part multiple times on different browsers, and it gets to 2 mb or so and then stops. I had no probs with a to c...any ideas? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > As an early treat for those of us who can't go out on Peel Night, here's a complete show > from early 1992 which featured heavily in chapter 1 of In Session Tonight – and I have > posted to the files section of the news group site the relevant extracts from that out-of- > print work. This was the show which featured the debut `freakout' session by Spiritualized, > and several other scoops as well: three tracks from The Fall's new 12-inch; three tracks > from the forthcoming new LP by P J Harvey `Dry'; three tracks from the new Pavement LP > `Slanted and Enchanted'; three from The Meathooks; and a repeat of Leatherface's session. > Added to that in the first ten minutes a treat for those trying to collect everything in John > Peel's Singles Box, I think. All in all, with the benefit of hindsight this is clearly a very > newsworthy, busy and noisy show. Enjoy! > > ken > > > > Peel 1992-03-14a > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82BPT7AT > Peel 1992-03-14b > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8HM1KSLJ > Peel 1992-03-14c > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTQNKNM1 > Peel 1992-03-14d > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COB4RZ0M > From rockerq@... Fri Oct 10 17:28:29 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:28:29 EDT Subject: [peel] "A roaring start" Message-ID: > < in John Peel's Singles Box>> > Thanks for that, Ken - great to hear that Sipho Bengu track which continues to elude me! (if anyone has ever seen a copy please let me know!) Cheers! Rocker ************** From ken_garner@... Fri Oct 10 22:23:14 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:23:14 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've just downloaded it back to myself and it worked fine and is playing beyond 10 minutes easily. I've also uploaded to files on the group site a different version of the word file extract from In Session Tonight. Hope this helps, k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Is it just me? I have tried to download the fourth part multiple times > on different browsers, and it gets to 2 mb or so and then stops. I had > no probs with a to c...any ideas? > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > > > As an early treat for those of us who can't go out on Peel Night, > here's a complete show > > from early 1992 which featured heavily in chapter 1 of In Session > Tonight – and I have > > posted to the files section of the news group site the relevant > extracts from that out-of- > > print work. This was the show which featured the debut `freakout' > session by Spiritualized, > > and several other scoops as well: three tracks from The Fall's new > 12-inch; three tracks > > from the forthcoming new LP by P J Harvey `Dry'; three tracks from > the new Pavement LP > > `Slanted and Enchanted'; three from The Meathooks; and a repeat of > Leatherface's session. > > Added to that in the first ten minutes a treat for those trying to > collect everything in John > > Peel's Singles Box, I think. All in all, with the benefit of > hindsight this is clearly a very > > newsworthy, busy and noisy show. Enjoy! > > > > ken > > > > > > > > Peel 1992-03-14a > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82BPT7AT > > Peel 1992-03-14b > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8HM1KSLJ > > Peel 1992-03-14c > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTQNKNM1 > > Peel 1992-03-14d > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COB4RZ0M > > > From thebarguest@... Fri Oct 10 23:01:05 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:01:05 -0000 Subject: 30242.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Bill. I guess by the lack of reply that maybe people want to maintain the diversity of Peel show sources ...... I for one say thanks muchly for digitising - I know your work is the best I've heard ! That 1978 Festive 50 was like an early Christmas present ("the best I ever had") ! So maybe Megaupload, Rapidshare etc would be OK .... Bye Skinny Cat --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > Hello there. > > I have ripped 10 cassettes from the ebay 400 box, > and I am now finishing my second 10. > > The raw capture files are in flac format and I have returned those to > rocker on a DVD > > I have speed corrected and assembled the tapes into shows > > The shows in the first batch were > > Peel 1978-10-11 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-18 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-20 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-23.mp3 > Peel 1978-10-25 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-31.mp3 > Peel 1978-11-2 (part).mp3 > > I would like to upload these to 30242.net. THis seems the perfect > repository for the shows > > How could I do this? > > Bill > From martinw@... Fri Oct 10 23:46:44 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:46:44 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 30242.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 22:01 10/10/2008, you wrote: >Hi Bill. > >I guess by the lack of reply that maybe people want >to maintain the diversity of Peel show sources ...... I don't think it's what people want but at this stage we are on the wrong side of the legality argument and diversification is the safest thing The ultimate aim would be a legal central repository but we are a long way from being able to do that and may never be able to. From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 11 04:22:46 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:22:46 -0000 Subject: Two requests Message-ID: OK, I throw myself on the mercy of the group. I cannot download part d of Ken's last show (1992-03-14): I've tried different browsers and even diffeent computers, so can some kind soul who has already downloaded it reup it for me? Thanks in advance! (It's not a problem with Megaupload...I'm downloading one at the moment from someone else!) Also, the DVD Torrent compilation features a session by Dillinger Escape Plan which is not in Ken's book. Anyobdy ever heard of it? Best wishes Stev [Teenage Kicks] From rockerq@... Sat Oct 11 05:02:28 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:02:28 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: "A roaring start" Message-ID: > < different browsers, and it gets to 2 mb or so and then stops. I had no probs > with a to c...any ideas?>> > Is your hard drive full? Rocker ************** From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 11 05:26:27 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:26:27 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Rocker Thanks for the input. That would normally be the case, but my new PC has 153 gb of which I'm only using 23 gb, and as I say, I've had no problems with any other download. A mystery to me... Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > < > different browsers, and it gets to 2 mb or so and then stops. I had no probs > > with a to c...any ideas?>> > > > Is your hard drive full? > > Rocker > > > > > > ************** > From rockerq@... Sat Oct 11 05:30:16 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:30:16 EDT Subject: [peel] John Peel's record box Message-ID: Further to our recent discussions I notice there's an original of the Anti-Social 7" on eBay - Item number: 270275620661. Finishes soon - is already over 500 quid, and the reserve has not even been met! (my guess the reserve will be 1000 dollars). Cheers! Rocker PS my birthday is coming up... ************** From saipanda@... Sat Oct 11 07:01:14 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:01:14 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks to Ken for the different version of the Word file extract from In Session Tonihgt. A really fascinating read, especially while listening to the show! Speaking of the show, have reupped the fourth file for Steve in Korea. Hope you have better luck with this one, Steve: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RH5117WU Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > I've just downloaded it back to myself and it worked fine and is playing beyond 10 minutes > easily. I've also uploaded to files on the group site a different version of the word file > extract from In Session Tonight. Hope this helps, > > k From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 11 07:52:31 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:52:31 -0000 Subject: "A roaring start" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: God bless you Steve and Ken, and sorry for bothering you with my niggle! Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks} --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Many thanks to Ken for the different version of the Word file extract from In Session > Tonihgt. A really fascinating read, especially while listening to the show! > > Speaking of the show, have reupped the fourth file for Steve in Korea. Hope you have > better luck with this one, Steve: > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RH5117WU > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > > > I've just downloaded it back to myself and it worked fine and is playing beyond 10 > minutes > > easily. I've also uploaded to files on the group site a different version of the word file > > extract from In Session Tonight. Hope this helps, > > > > k > From martinw@... Sat Oct 11 09:52:47 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:52:47 +0100 Subject: [peel] Two requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >Also, the DVD Torrent compilation features a session by Dillinger >Escape Plan which is not in Ken's book. Anyobdy ever heard of it? > >Best wishes >Stev [Teenage Kicks] They did a couple of Rock Show sessions. Probably one of them martinw From saipanda@... Sat Oct 11 13:06:37 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:06:37 -0000 Subject: book stuff, observer reviews Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/oct/12/john-peel-madonna-fall Cheers, Steve W From dunelm@... Sat Oct 11 14:48:05 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:48:05 -0000 Subject: Quiz Question Message-ID: Which veteran of fifteen Peel sessions appears in both The 40 Year Old Virgin and Knocked Up? From ramsay.dj@... Sat Oct 11 15:00:37 2008 From: ramsay.dj@... (Davie Ramsay) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:00:37 +0100 Subject: [peel] Quiz Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48F0A375.5040605@...> *Loudon Wainwright III* From lists@... Sat Oct 11 16:47:05 2008 From: lists@... (llrc057) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:47:05 -0000 Subject: 30242.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Bill, Currently there is no way for other people to upload to this site. If you would like to send me the files I could upload these for you, the same arrangement that Andrew uses. PM me if your interested. If anyone has a talent for web programing and would like to sort this site out, again please contact. I think a central repository is useful as long as it's not the only place the files are available. Regards Gary --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > Hello there. > > I have ripped 10 cassettes from the ebay 400 box, > and I am now finishing my second 10. > > The raw capture files are in flac format and I have returned those to > rocker on a DVD > > I have speed corrected and assembled the tapes into shows > > The shows in the first batch were > > Peel 1978-10-11 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-18 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-20 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-23.mp3 > Peel 1978-10-25 (part).mp3 > Peel 1978-10-31.mp3 > Peel 1978-11-2 (part).mp3 > > I would like to upload these to 30242.net. THis seems the perfect > repository for the shows > > How could I do this? > > Bill > From grafpoo@... Sat Oct 11 21:51:17 2008 From: grafpoo@... (john guthrie) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:51:17 -0400 Subject: [peel] Two requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From gpwebster@... Sat Oct 11 23:08:11 2008 From: gpwebster@... (hammieweb) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:08:11 -0000 Subject: Polvo Sessions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: many thanks for these 2 fantastic sessions, I have been after these ever since my audio cassette chewed up quite a while ago!! Interestingly "Tread On Me" from the 1st session (13/11/1992) became "Tilebreaker" on the seminal "Today's Active Lifestyle" (released 1993), still one of my fave LP's. Here's a question for you all - which Peel Session tracks turned up later under a different title on record? There must be a few. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "theallnewadventuresofspp" wrote: > > I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was > transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought i'd > put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! > (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) > http://rapidshare.com/files/151985171/polvo.zip > http://rapidshare.com/files/151986570/polvo2.zip > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Oct 12 03:32:48 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:32:48 -0000 Subject: Polvo Sessions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Off the top of my head: *The Inspiral Carpets' 'So This Is How It Feels' lost the 'so' when it became a single. *The Orb's 'Loving You' became 'A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Underworld'. *The Cocteau Twins' 'Peep Bo' became 'Ivo'. *The Police's 'Can't Stand Losing You (The Bit We Left Out)' was the basis for the instrumental 'Regatta De Blanc'. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "hammieweb" wrote: > > many thanks for these 2 fantastic sessions, I have been after these > ever since my audio cassette chewed up quite a while ago!! > Interestingly "Tread On Me" from the 1st session (13/11/1992) > became "Tilebreaker" on the seminal "Today's Active Lifestyle" > (released 1993), still one of my fave LP's. > Here's a question for you all - which Peel Session tracks turned up > later under a different title on record? There must be a few. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "theallnewadventuresofspp" > wrote: > > > > I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was > > transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought > i'd > > put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! > > (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151985171/polvo.zip > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151986570/polvo2.zip > > > From markbursa@... Sun Oct 12 04:49:43 2008 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:49:43 -0400 Subject: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CAFA2C507F936F-2D88-92D@...> Again, off the top of my head... My Bloody Valentine - Colm's song - became (When you wake) you're still in a dream Echo & the Bunnymen - All my colours - became Zimbo?(and then went back to its original title!) G Lewis & B C Gilbert (they of?Wire) - Anchors Away - became?Ends with the?Sea In a reverse of the above scenario,?the Cure's Primary becomes an almost?completely different song?betweenthe session and the release...? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Steve To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:32 Subject: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions Hi Off the top of my head: *The Inspiral Carpets' 'So This Is How It Feels' lost the 'so' when it became a single. *The Orb's 'Loving You' became 'A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Underworld'. *The Cocteau Twins' 'Peep Bo' became 'Ivo'. *The Police's 'Can't Stand Losing You (The Bit We Left Out)' was the basis for the instrumental 'Regatta De Blanc'. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "hammieweb" wrote: > > many thanks for these 2 fantastic sessions, I have been after these > ever since my audio cassette chewed up quite a while ago!! > Interestingly "Tread On Me" from the 1st session (13/11/1992) > became "Tilebreaker" on the seminal "Today's Active Lifestyle" > (released 1993), still one of my fave LP's. > Here's a question for you all - which Peel Session tracks turned up > later under a different title on record? There must be a few. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "theallnewadventuresofspp" > wrote: > > > > I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was > > transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought > i'd > > put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! > > (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151985171/polvo.zip > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151986570/polvo2.zip > > > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From robfleay@... Sun Oct 12 12:33:58 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:33:58 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions Message-ID: <20081012103358.OSNC22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Quite a few of The Wedding Present session tracks had different titles when they cane out - they're annotated in the booklet of the Peel Sessions boxset. Also BOB did a session track called "It Was Kevin" that became "Leave The Straight Life Behind" - the title track of their album > Off the top of my head: > *The Inspiral Carpets' 'So This Is How It Feels' lost the 'so' when it > became a single. > *The Orb's 'Loving You' became 'A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain > That Rules From The Centre Of The Underworld'. > *The Cocteau Twins' 'Peep Bo' became 'Ivo'. > *The Police's 'Can't Stand Losing You (The Bit We Left Out)' was the > basis for the instrumental 'Regatta De Blanc'. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "hammieweb" wrote: > > > > many thanks for these 2 fantastic sessions, I have been after these > > ever since my audio cassette chewed up quite a while ago!! > > Interestingly "Tread On Me" from the 1st session (13/11/1992) > > became "Tilebreaker" on the seminal "Today's Active Lifestyle" > > (released 1993), still one of my fave LP's. > > Here's a question for you all - which Peel Session tracks turned up > > later under a different title on record? There must be a few. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "theallnewadventuresofspp" > > wrote: > > > > > > I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was > > > transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought > > i'd > > > put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! > > > (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151985171/polvo.zip > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151986570/polvo2.zip > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From mark.whitby2@... Sun Oct 12 13:24:40 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:24:40 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions References: <20081012103358.OSNC22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: The Fall: Faust Banana became Dktr Faustus Numb at the Lodge became Feeling Numb Student! became Hey! Student Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: RobF To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions Quite a few of The Wedding Present session tracks had different titles when they cane out - they're annotated in the booklet of the Peel Sessions boxset. Also BOB did a session track called "It Was Kevin" that became "Leave The Straight Life Behind" - the title track of their album > Off the top of my head: > *The Inspiral Carpets' 'So This Is How It Feels' lost the 'so' when it > became a single. > *The Orb's 'Loving You' became 'A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain > That Rules From The Centre Of The Underworld'. > *The Cocteau Twins' 'Peep Bo' became 'Ivo'. > *The Police's 'Can't Stand Losing You (The Bit We Left Out)' was the > basis for the instrumental 'Regatta De Blanc'. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "hammieweb" wrote: > > > > many thanks for these 2 fantastic sessions, I have been after these > > ever since my audio cassette chewed up quite a while ago!! > > Interestingly "Tread On Me" from the 1st session (13/11/1992) > > became "Tilebreaker" on the seminal "Today's Active Lifestyle" > > (released 1993), still one of my fave LP's. > > Here's a question for you all - which Peel Session tracks turned up > > later under a different title on record? There must be a few. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "theallnewadventuresofspp" > > wrote: > > > > > > I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was > > > transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought > > i'd > > > put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! > > > (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151985171/polvo.zip > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/151986570/polvo2.zip > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Oct 12 14:15:33 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:15:33 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) Message-ID: Fellow Peelites A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the first track but otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to do a five-hour marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted before 12 o' clock. Radio bloody Onederful. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] From saipanda@... Sun Oct 12 17:43:27 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:43:27 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Steve! A true epic. Steve W From thebarguest@... Sun Oct 12 19:14:35 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:14:35 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for this - very kind ! Has this show already done the rounds ("new rip") - maybe in mono ? Is that the only difference ? Good quality mono is OK for me, really. With all the Peel shows I've amassed, I'm keen to avoid dupes if possible. Regards, Toby M. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the first track but > otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! > > Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 > Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. > Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK > Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 > Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ > Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 > Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY > Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 > Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 > > I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to do a five-hour > marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted before 12 o' clock. > Radio bloody Onederful. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > From dr_mango2004@... Sun Oct 12 21:20:01 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions In-Reply-To: <8CAFA2C507F936F-2D88-92D@...> Message-ID: <145905.97235.qm@...> Staying with Echo & the Bunnymen, "I Bagsy Yours" from the first Peel session (22.08.79) became "Monkeys" when their debut album emerged. Dr M. --- On Sun, 12/10/08, markbursa@... wrote: From: markbursa@... Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 3:49 AM Again, off the top of my head... My Bloody Valentine - Colm's song - became (When you wake) you're still in a dream Echo & the Bunnymen - All my colours - became Zimbo (and then went back to its original title!) G Lewis & B C Gilbert (they of Wire) - Anchors Away - became Ends with the Sea In a reverse of the above scenario, the Cure's Primary becomes an almost completely different song betweenthe session and the release...  Mark -----Original Message----- From: Steve To: peel@yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:32 Subject: [peel] Re: Polvo Sessions Hi Off the top of my head: *The Inspiral Carpets' 'So This Is How It Feels' lost the 'so' when it became a single. *The Orb's 'Loving You' became 'A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Underworld'. *The Cocteau Twins' 'Peep Bo' became 'Ivo'. *The Police's 'Can't Stand Losing You (The Bit We Left Out)' was the basis for the instrumental 'Regatta De Blanc'. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "hammieweb" wrote: > > many thanks for these 2 fantastic sessions, I have been after these > ever since my audio cassette chewed up quite a while ago!! > Interestingly "Tread On Me" from the 1st session (13/11/1992) > became "Tilebreaker" on the seminal "Today's Active Lifestyle" > (released 1993), still one of my fave LP's. > Here's a question for you all - which Peel Session tracks turned up > later under a different title on record? There must be a few. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "theallnewadventure sofspp" > wrote: > > > > I know these are available on the 17 dvd colelction but I was > > transferring them for a friend who can't use torrents so I thought > i'd > > put them up here in case anybody else has the same trouble. Enjoy! > > (the version of Gary Numans 'Cars' is ace!) > > http://rapidshare. com/files/ 151985171/ polvo.zip > > http://rapidshare. com/files/ 151986570/ polvo2.zip > > > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From ken_garner@... Mon Oct 13 00:40:45 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:40:45 -0000 Subject: "...almost halfway through now..." Message-ID: and before my megaupload account expires, here's the third Peel lunchtime show from April 1993, if truth be told I think not quite so ripping as Monday's and Tuesday's shows (despite yet another roaring start), and the crummy parts of the playlist start to click in with a vengeance thanks to 'heavy rotation'; but, well, still ok overall, k Peel at Lunchtime #3, 1993-04.07a, 12.45-1.30m.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MA6Z5VZJ Peel at Lunchtime #3, 1993-04-07b, 1.30-2.15pm.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T8CF9S78 Peel at Lunchtime #3, 1993-04.07c, 2.15-3pm.mp3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0R4WCFDE From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Oct 13 02:33:15 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:33:15 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Steve and Toby Thanks for the positive response! All of my rips come from the tapes in Colin's 500 Box, none of which have ever been ripped or shared before. There is another much smaller version on Gary's www.30242.net, in 32 kbps RM audio, if file size is a more important factor than quality. I don't know whether there has ben any other rip from any other source. I asked the group before I did it whether another recording was necessary, and received no negative replies, so I went ahead and spent most of Sunday on it. Hope this helps. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > Thanks for this - very kind ! > > Has this show already done the rounds ("new rip") - maybe > in mono ? Is that the only difference ? Good quality mono > is OK for me, really. With all the Peel shows I've amassed, > I'm keen to avoid dupes if possible. > > Regards, > Toby M. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the first track but > > otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! > > > > Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 > > Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. > > Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK > > Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 > > Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ > > Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 > > Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY > > Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 > > Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 > > > > I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to do a five-hour > > marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted before 12 o' clock. > > Radio bloody Onederful. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > From thebarguest@... Mon Oct 13 09:17:35 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:17:35 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Steve - 32kbps RM is awful quality ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Dear Steve and Toby > > Thanks for the positive response! All of my rips come from the tapes > in Colin's 500 Box, none of which have ever been ripped or shared > before. There is another much smaller version on Gary's www.30242.net, > in 32 kbps RM audio, if file size is a more important factor than > quality. I don't know whether there has ben any other rip from any > other source. > I asked the group before I did it whether another recording was > necessary, and received no negative replies, so I went ahead and spent > most of Sunday on it. > Hope this helps. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > Thanks for this - very kind ! > > > > Has this show already done the rounds ("new rip") - maybe > > in mono ? Is that the only difference ? Good quality mono > > is OK for me, really. With all the Peel shows I've amassed, > > I'm keen to avoid dupes if possible. > > > > Regards, > > Toby M. > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > > > A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the first track but > > > otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! > > > > > > Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 > > > Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. > > > Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK > > > Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 > > > Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ > > > Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 > > > Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY > > > Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 > > > Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM > > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 > > > > > > I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to do a five-hour > > > marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted before 12 o' clock. > > > Radio bloody Onederful. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > From saipanda@... Mon Oct 13 09:19:59 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:19:59 -0000 Subject: "...almost halfway through now..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks, Ken! I love the Peel Is Brambles shows. Can't wait to listen to this one. Cheers, Steve W From vinpinman@... Mon Oct 13 14:13:52 2008 From: vinpinman@... (vinpinman) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:13:52 -0000 Subject: 7/3/1979? Message-ID: Quick yes or no, has this show surfaced yet? Thanks in advance. From saipanda@... Mon Oct 13 14:28:20 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0000 Subject: 7/3/1979? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If it's this one, it's part of the 400 Box and the answer is yes, although seeming only in a partial version so far: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_March_1979 Cheers, Steve PS I'm trying to get the year pages sorted out on the Wiki so this type of question can be easily and quickly answered. Here's my current efforts for 1979: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979 Bit of a way to go yet though before this little job is finished (there's a lot of years). --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "vinpinman" wrote: > > Quick yes or no, has this show surfaced yet? > > Thanks in advance. > From john.bravin@... Mon Oct 13 18:12:02 2008 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:12:02 +0200 Subject: Interesting extract in The Times In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48F37352.3050002@...> Best of Times, Worst of Times: Flossie Ravenscroft Flossie Ravenscroft, 26, youngest daughter of the much-loved late DJ John Peel, has been collaborating with her siblings and mother, Sheila, on a collection of his writings, The Olivetti Chronicles. John From tomb242@... Mon Oct 13 18:55:22 2008 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:55:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Interesting extract in The Times In-Reply-To: <48F37352.3050002@...> Message-ID: <133502.75035.qm@...> The Observer Music magazine has excerpts yesterday. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/oct/12/john-peel-madonna-fall Tom --- On Mon, 10/13/08, John Bravin wrote: From: John Bravin Subject: [peel] Interesting extract in The Times To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 5:12 PM Best of Times, Worst of Times: Flossie Ravenscroft Flossie Ravenscroft, 26, youngest daughter of the much-loved late DJ John Peel, has been collaborating with her siblings and mother, Sheila, on a collection of his writings, The Olivetti Chronicles. John From sete.colinas@... Mon Oct 13 20:40:29 2008 From: sete.colinas@... (Leo Gilbert) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:40:29 +0100 Subject: [peel] 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks very much for this, Steve. Excellent stuff. Leo On 12/10/2008 13:15, "Steve" wrote: > > > > Fellow Peelites > > A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the first track but > otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! > > Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 > Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. > Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK > Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 > Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ > Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 > Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY > Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 > Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 > > I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to do a five-hour > marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted before 12 o' clock. > Radio bloody Onederful. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > From tb666xx@... Mon Oct 13 21:01:01 2008 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <462701.42290.qm@...> just wanted to say thanks again to steve, ken and all the folk throwing up new shows.... my mind is being blown - esp. the hear all the stuff before my time (79-83) - its amazing how ahead of the curve peel was - some of the obscure punk stuff he was playing was amazing...thanks for all your hard work guys...very much appreciated... --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Leo Gilbert wrote: > From: Leo Gilbert > Subject: Re: [peel] 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:40 PM > Thanks very much for this, Steve. Excellent stuff. > > Leo > > > On 12/10/2008 13:15, "Steve" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the > first track but > > otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! > > > > Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 > > Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. > > Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK > > Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 > > Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ > > Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 > > Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY > > Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 > > Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM > > Tracklisting: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 > > > > I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to > do a five-hour > > marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted > before 12 o' clock. > > Radio bloody Onederful. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Mon Oct 13 23:05:13 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:05:13 -0000 Subject: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Category:Peelenium 1902 to go. Can anybody confirm the name of the first artist? From martinw@... Tue Oct 14 01:15:34 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:15:34 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Peelenium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 22:05 13/10/2008, you wrote: >http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Category:Peelenium > >1902 to go. Can anybody confirm the name of the first artist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertie_Millar From ken_garner@... Tue Oct 14 01:31:52 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:31:52 -0000 Subject: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: there are plenty of mistakes in my version of the Peelenium in my book, but I am pretty sure it is indeed Under the Deodar, By Gertie Millar k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Category:Peelenium > > 1902 to go. Can anybody confirm the name of the first artist? > From ken_garner@... Tue Oct 14 01:41:37 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:41:37 -0000 Subject: "More Music Monday!" Message-ID: ...and here at last is my favourite of my Peel show tapes: John on More Music Monday in January 1988 - the day when daytime DJs were under orders to talk much less, which they did not like - with the first session by Bob, and a repeat of the Wedding Present Ukrainian first session, plus loads of groovy records and segues - just listen to that segue from Bob to James Brown, wow!. And how about Jimmy Bo Horne's forgotten disco classic 'Spank'? Wonderful mix of indie, african, rap, house, oldies, reggae, RnB, everything. Like the lunchtime shows, Peel really sticks it to the daytime boys here as to how to put together what he rightly calls "a rockin' show". Side 1 or part 1 is unedited, but I made two live edits, with finger on the pause button, in part 2, and I estimate about 20-22 minutes of this show and possibly 5 or 6 records are missing, all from the second half. One day I'll find out what is missing. For now, dig it! k Peel 1988-01-18a http://www.megaupload.com/?d=84862XN8 Peel 1988-01-18b (edit) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=43UTHCVA From parkermike81@... Tue Oct 14 03:28:15 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:28:15 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: new show (26 December 2002-Festive Fifty) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: >thanks in advance steve,this ones being reserved for a xmas lunch knees up. > Dear Steve and Toby > > Thanks for the positive response! All of my rips come from the tapes > in Colin's 500 Box, none of which have ever been ripped or shared > before. There is another much smaller version on Gary's www.30242.net, > in 32 kbps RM audio, if file size is a more important factor than > quality. I don't know whether there has ben any other rip from any > other source. > I asked the group before I did it whether another recording was > necessary, and received no negative replies, so I went ahead and spent > most of Sunday on it. > Hope this helps. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > Thanks for this - very kind ! > > > > Has this show already done the rounds ("new rip") - maybe > > in mono ? Is that the only difference ? Good quality mono > > is OK for me, really. With all the Peel shows I've amassed, > > I'm keen to avoid dupes if possible. > > > > Regards, > > Toby M. > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Peelites > > > > > > A brand new rip of this, unfortunately missing the first track but > > > otherwise all five hours in very good quality STEREO!! > > > > > > Date: Thursday 26 December 2002 > > > Time: 8 p.m.-1 a.m. > > > Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2FXT1NK > > > Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=768PN8J5 > > > Part 3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0IP72FJ > > > Part 4: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SDSGC035 > > > Part 5: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABXO1JBY > > > Part 6: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOFLGO79 > > > Part 7: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMF5HJFM > > > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/26_December_2002 > > > > > > I don't know whose bright idea it was for John to do a five-hour > > > marathon, but the poor man is palbably exhausted before 12 o' clock. > > > Radio bloody Onederful. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > From vinpinman@... Tue Oct 14 07:36:33 2008 From: vinpinman@... (vinpinman) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:36:33 -0000 Subject: 7/3/1979? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Steve, and for the fabulous job on the Wiki... I'll get to helping out at some point I promise! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > If it's this one, it's part of the 400 Box and the answer is yes, although seeming only in a > partial version so far: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_March_1979 > > Cheers, > > Steve > > PS I'm trying to get the year pages sorted out on the Wiki so this type of question can be > easily and quickly answered. Here's my current efforts for 1979: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979 > Bit of a way to go yet though before this little job is finished (there's a lot of years). > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "vinpinman" wrote: > > > > Quick yes or no, has this show surfaced yet? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > From AndrewThezmore@... Tue Oct 14 07:47:18 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:47:18 -0000 Subject: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks both. Didn't doubt you for a minute Ken, just that Peel says the first two songs were by the Florodora Girls. Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > there are plenty of mistakes in my version of the Peelenium in my book, but I am pretty sure > it is indeed Under the Deodar, By Gertie Millar > > k > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Category:Peelenium > > > > 1902 to go. Can anybody confirm the name of the first artist? > > > From ken_garner@... Tue Oct 14 09:33:20 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:33:20 -0000 Subject: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and I left an 'o' out of Floradora Girls anyway! Argh! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > Thanks both. Didn't doubt you for a minute Ken, just that Peel says the > first two songs were by the Florodora Girls. > > Andrew > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > there are plenty of mistakes in my version of the Peelenium in my > book, but I am pretty sure > > it is indeed Under the Deodar, By Gertie Millar > > > > k > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "andrewthezmore" wrote: > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/index.php?title=Category:Peelenium > > > > > > 1902 to go. Can anybody confirm the name of the first artist? > > > > > > From ken_garner@... Tue Oct 14 09:36:01 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:36:01 -0000 Subject: "More Music Monday!" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: just listened again myself, and of course the segue into James Brown is from Mighty Mighty's single 'Maisonette', not from Bob: Doh! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > ...and here at last is my favourite of my Peel show tapes: John on More Music Monday in > January 1988 - the day when daytime DJs were under orders to talk much less, which they > did not like - with the first session by Bob, and a repeat of the Wedding Present Ukrainian > first session, plus loads of groovy records and segues - just listen to that segue from Bob > to James Brown, wow!. And how about Jimmy Bo Horne's forgotten disco classic 'Spank'? > Wonderful mix of indie, african, rap, house, oldies, reggae, RnB, everything. Like the > lunchtime shows, Peel really sticks it to the daytime boys here as to how to put together > what he rightly calls "a rockin' show". Side 1 or part 1 is unedited, but I made two live edits, > with finger on the pause button, in part 2, and I estimate about 20-22 minutes of this show > and possibly 5 or 6 records are missing, all from the second half. One day I'll find out what is > missing. For now, dig it! > > k > > Peel 1988-01-18a > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=84862XN8 > > Peel 1988-01-18b (edit) > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=43UTHCVA > From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Tue Oct 14 11:56:27 2008 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (stephen phythian) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] "More Music Monday!" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <744489.58489.qm@...> Thanks for all these shows Ken and for the Brambles stuff as well. I 've such a backlog now I don't know when I'll get to hear it but thanks in advance anyway! --- On Tue, 14/10/08, ken garner wrote: From: ken garner Subject: [peel] "More Music Monday!" To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 12:41 AM ...and here at last is my favourite of my Peel show tapes: John on More Music Monday in January 1988 - the day when daytime DJs were under orders to talk much less, which they did not like - with the first session by Bob, and a repeat of the Wedding Present Ukrainian first session, plus loads of groovy records and segues - just listen to that segue from Bob to James Brown, wow!. And how about Jimmy Bo Horne's forgotten disco classic 'Spank'? Wonderful mix of indie, african, rap, house, oldies, reggae, RnB, everything. Like the lunchtime shows, Peel really sticks it to the daytime boys here as to how to put together what he rightly calls "a rockin' show". Side 1 or part 1 is unedited, but I made two live edits, with finger on the pause button, in part 2, and I estimate about 20-22 minutes of this show and possibly 5 or 6 records are missing, all from the second half. One day I'll find out what is missing. For now, dig it! k Peel 1988-01-18a http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= 84862XN8 Peel 1988-01-18b (edit) http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= 43UTHCVA From dr_mango2004@... Tue Oct 14 21:32:36 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:32:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 7 November 1978 (new download: 400 box) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <551674.24317.qm@...> Hi everyone. Many apologies for the long delay in getting my share of the 400 box tapes out there for download. I actually finished ripping the original source material over the weekend of 6 / 7 September, bar one tape that resolutely refuses to play ball and so has to go back to Rocker for some expert attention. Unfortunately for the project, in mid-September I headed off on a fortnight's holiday, so the previous 7 days or so were spent rushing around, trying to tie up loose ends before I went. Sadly, this didn't leave me time to edit and mp3 the tapes. More bad luck followed on the flight home from my holiday, when I picked up a nasty cold bug, so for at least a week after my return I felt as rough as anything and in no mood or condition to get down to work. Excuses over, I'm now fighting fit and here's the show details. This is the second release from my assignment. 7 November 1978. The rip is the second hour of the show, featuring the Mekons in session. The quality is a bit rough in places, with some frequency drift. Download: http://sharebee.com/d3e51847 Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_November_1978 There'll be another one tomorrow. Dr M. From rockerq@... Tue Oct 14 22:59:10 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:59:10 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: "More Music Monday!" Message-ID: > < from Mighty > Mighty's single 'Maisonette'>> > Funny that should come up now - have recently been in contact with Hugh from Mighty Mighty - after many years they are reforming to play at the Xmas Twee gig on Dec 6th, at Butterley Station, Ripley, Derbyshire - more info at http://www.indietracks.co.uk - with the promise of more gigs in the new year! Cheers! Rocker ************** From rockerq@... Tue Oct 14 23:25:51 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:25:51 EDT Subject: [peel] 7/3/1979? Message-ID: > < > Thanks in advance.>> > Thanks to Rob Fleay, I now have the flac file for that part of the show which was on the 400 box cassettes. Mail me offlist if you want me to upload it to my iDisk! Cheers! Rocker > ************** From vinpinman@... Wed Oct 15 09:48:08 2008 From: vinpinman@... (vinpinman) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:48:08 -0000 Subject: 7 November 1978 (new download: 400 box) In-Reply-To: <551674.24317.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks Doc, more great work, spreading the word on FiS. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > Many apologies for the long delay in getting my share of the 400 box tapes out there for download. I actually finished ripping the original source material over the weekend of 6 / 7 September, bar one tape that resolutely refuses to play ball and so has to go back to Rocker for some expert attention. Unfortunately for the project, in mid-September I headed off on a fortnight's holiday, so the previous 7 days or so were spent rushing around, trying to tie up loose ends before I went. Sadly, this didn't leave me time to edit and mp3 the tapes. More bad luck followed on the flight home from my holiday, when I picked up a nasty cold bug, so for at least a week after my return I felt as rough as anything and in no mood or condition to get down to work. > > Excuses over, I'm now fighting fit and here's the show details. This is the second release from my assignment. > > 7 November 1978. The rip is the second hour of the show, featuring the Mekons in session. The quality is a bit rough in places, with some frequency drift. > > Download: http://sharebee.com/d3e51847 > Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/07_November_1978 > > There'll be another one tomorrow. > > Dr M. > From hotmissile_lives@... Thu Oct 16 01:51:15 2008 From: hotmissile_lives@... (Mic) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:51:15 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?_Editing_other_people=92s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= Message-ID: Hi all, I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take me some time to get there... Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive Fifties, and the associated shows: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything from. If that makes sense. If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of- the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here? Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on the site. Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just hearing things? Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks – it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – but does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments from the shows? That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. Mic. From tabdrinkink74@... Thu Oct 16 02:16:13 2008 From: tabdrinkink74@... (tabdrinkink74) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:16:13 -0000 Subject: Also editing other people's work... Message-ID: Hi there, i'm new here too and thought i'd share with you something i made for John Peel Day. (i do realise it might have been last week but i thought i'd put it up now in case it is this week.) i have put together my own sort of Peel show compiling together bits of other shows, mostly shows that were uploaded by people here! It makes more sense when you read this i guess: http://beeandchick.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-peel-day-mixtape.html Or if you don't want to see the tracklisting in advance (surprise is great i find!) then go straight here: http://www.megaupload.com/? d=9X5W1FAG Hope you enjoy! thomas From tabdrinkink74@... Thu Oct 16 02:19:12 2008 From: tabdrinkink74@... (tabdrinkink74) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:19:12 -0000 Subject: Also editing other people's work... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9X5W1FAG Gah, sorry, bad start! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "tabdrinkink74" wrote: > > Hi there, > > i'm new here too and thought i'd share with you something i made for > John Peel Day. (i do realise it might have been last week but i thought > i'd put it up now in case it is this week.) > > i have put together my own sort of Peel show compiling together bits of > other shows, mostly shows that were uploaded by people here! It makes > more sense when you read this i guess: > http://beeandchick.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-peel-day-mixtape.html > > Or if you don't want to see the tracklisting in advance (surprise is > great i find!) then go straight here: http://www.megaupload.com/? > d=9X5W1FAG > > Hope you enjoy! > > thomas > From so_it_goes_2512@... Thu Oct 16 02:45:16 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:45:16 -0000 Subject: Also editing other people's work... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Thomas Glad you took my advice and joined. Welcome to the group! I recommend the recording he's made: so seamlessly put together and so entertaining. Wish I had the time and energy to do the same. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "tabdrinkink74" wrote: > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9X5W1FAG > > Gah, sorry, bad start! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "tabdrinkink74" > wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > i'm new here too and thought i'd share with you something i made > for > > John Peel Day. (i do realise it might have been last week but i > thought > > i'd put it up now in case it is this week.) > > > > i have put together my own sort of Peel show compiling together > bits of > > other shows, mostly shows that were uploaded by people here! It > makes > > more sense when you read this i guess: > > http://beeandchick.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-peel-day-mixtape.html > > > > Or if you don't want to see the tracklisting in advance (surprise > is > > great i find!) then go straight here: http://www.megaupload.com/? > > d=9X5W1FAG > > > > Hope you enjoy! > > > > thomas > > > From deedeeramain@... Thu Oct 16 06:18:36 2008 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtwZWVsXSA8V2lraT4gRWRpdGluZyBvdGhlciBwZW9wbGXigJlzIHdv?= =?utf-8?B?cmsgLyBGRjc5ICYgODAgcXVlc3Rpb25z?= Message-ID: <832216.64076.qm@...> < Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? > You could try buying Ken Garner's excellent 'Peel Sessions' book - if there's a session in the show then Ken's book helps narrow down the dates. DeeDee ----- Original Message ---- From: Mic To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:51:15 AM Subject: [peel] Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions Hi all, I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take me some time to get there... Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive Fifties, and the associated shows: http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1979_ Festive_fifty http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1979_ Festive_fifty http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1980_ Festive_Fifty However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything from. If that makes sense. If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of- the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here? Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on the site. Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just hearing things? Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks – it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – but does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments from the shows? That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. Mic. From saipanda@... Thu Oct 16 11:11:52 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:11:52 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:__Editing_other_people=92s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mic, Good to have you on board both here and at the Wiki. Running a bit short of time, so just some general points on the Wiki, as I see it: 1. Adam ("of this parish" and Fades In Slowly) set it up earlier this year, and after only a few months it's still evolving and expanding. At the moment, it's very much at the stage of setting out a basic structure. Obviously there are still all kinds of gaps, including on the Festive Fifties, so your additions on that front seem really useful to me. Please carry on with as many of the other years as you're happy with. 2. On the editing, I think the idea is to keep as much of existing contributions as possible, as you said, while correcting mistakes and keeping within a fairly standard format for new tracklistings, etc. Fine to stick basically with info (do myself). For other stuff, we can see what people come up with. I'd like to concentrate on getting as much basic info up as possible initially, so it's useful. 3. One thing to stress is that the Wiki is definitely intended as a community resource and as such all contributions are most welcome. Many thanks to all those who have already joined in, especially those also doing 400 Box ripping. If people want to add tracklistings, info, corrections, just go ahead, Things can always be adjusted as we go along. There are also a couple of (little used) forums if you want to discuss Wiki stuff. Maybe we could discuss the ins and outs of the F50s, torrents, etc, over there, Mic. Right, I'm off to the pub! Cheers, Steve W From roger.carruthers@... Thu Oct 16 11:55:02 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:55:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtwZWVsXSA8V2lraT4gRWRpdGluZyBvdGhlciBwZW9wbGXigJlzIHdv?= =?utf-8?B?cmsgLyBGRjc5ICYgODAgcXVlc3Rpb25z?= In-Reply-To: <832216.64076.qm@...> Message-ID: <319515.99803.qm@...> See also http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/ and http://www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm (love the Private Eye review of Mick Wall's book on this page :-D ) cheers Roger --- On Thu, 16/10/08, Riving Ton wrote: > From: Riving Ton > Subject: Re: [peel] Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 5:18 AM > < Next, a question about the 24th December show from > 1979. I've got > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled > (three times) as > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that > there's nothing to > confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in > any way? > > > You could try buying Ken Garner's excellent 'Peel > Sessions' book - if there's a session in the show > then Ken's book helps narrow down the dates. > > DeeDee > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mic > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:51:15 AM > Subject: [peel] Editing other people’s work > / FF79 & 80 questions > > > Hi all, > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get > hold of & listen > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm > sure there are > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just > going to take > me some time to get there... > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help > out so as > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and > digitising those > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or > technology to > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do > something > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. > Oh, and > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel > Wiki. > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 > Festive Fifties, > and the associated shows: > http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1979_ Festive_fifty > http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1979_ Festive_fifty > http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1980_ Festive_Fifty > However, other people have been working on those too, so I > thought > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. > Rather than just > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any > comments? > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's > been previously > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too > much > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on > John Peel, or > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick > to `facts'; > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, > I've just quoted > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking > all his > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list > them in the > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they > so wish. I > also haven't really said anything about the details of > Peel > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all > been "best of > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link > to the original > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki > yet, but I > don't really feel right writing about shows I > haven't heard anything > from. If that makes sense. > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy > preamble, I've > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive > Fifties. Starting > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 > recordings > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the > top 10 mp3 > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm > new here, so > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, > but it doesn't > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I > don't have any > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my > PC with run-of- > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can > hear 15 > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't > match those on > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other > big clue > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the > 1979 top 10. So this > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 > from other > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the > Festive Fifty > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or > have I got > the wrong end of the stick here? > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. > I've got > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled > (three times) as > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that > there's nothing to > confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in > any way? > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most > interested in here > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come > across three > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part > of the > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on > the Wiki, > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, > one of them's > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as > any to > bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any > contact info on the > site. > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think > these have a > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The > first two have > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think > there's a > bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation > tapes, or do > people think they've just been digitised differently? > Or am I just > hearing things? > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be > made up of > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that > that is an equal > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, > digitised in > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for > me? > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent > compilation 2. > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and > for some > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with > "a stretch > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of > recordings. No > offense to whoever took the effort split them into > individual tracks – > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in > that form – but > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole > segments > from the shows? > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, > and thanks in > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, > thanks everyone > who's been recording and keeping records of these > shows. > > Mic. From parkermike81@... Thu Oct 16 13:23:29 2008 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] The Peel Sessions Poll 2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <664559.69693.qm@...> dear steve,sorry the names would`nt enter on the best sessions form so heres my top five-1. killing joke''pssyche'' 2.modern english ''black houses'' 3.the damned ''i`m so bored'' 4. the fall ''hip preist'' 5.the glaxo babies ''there`ll be no room for you in the shelters. cheers mikemisery -- On Thu, 10/9/08, Steve wrote: From: Steve Subject: [peel] The Peel Sessions Poll 2008 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:01 AM Fellow Peelites As I hinted last year, I am compiling a list of all-time favourite Peel Sessions. Since some complained that three tracks alone was not enough for a reasonable choice, I offer you five. Please vote in numbers, so that I can make a presentable chart. The form for voting is avaibale here, along with the details. http://festivefifty .blogspot. com/2008/ 10/2008-peel- sessions- poll.html Last date for voting: 30 November. I hope you will support me now as you did then! Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] From roger.carruthers@... Thu Oct 16 15:34:54 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (bty997881) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:34:54 -0000 Subject: FF00 flacs Message-ID: Just going through my DAT tapes before I finally send my much loved machine off to a very happy eBayer (got to pay for that new MacBook somehow...). There's a couple of 'recent' FF shows in there, though sadly no complete FF's, and as the recording quality is about as good as you'll get, I've decided to share them as flacs . I think I probably posted them as mp3's already via the FurtiveFifty, but I can upload them again if anyone wants. Anyway, here's the first tape, the 2000 FF, nos. 20-1, complete show. My apologies for the seemingly arbitrary segmenting, I was trying to cut it into < 200 MB chunks to get round Rapidshare's limit (I have a Rapidshare account), but as you can see, I got my calculations wrong for pt 3, so had to upload it toMegaupload. http://rapidshare.com/files/154556224/FF00_20-1_pt._1.flac.html http://rapidshare.com/files/154570340/FF00_20-1_pt._2.flac.html http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EKTVVGVX http://rapidshare.com/files/154571103/FF00_20-1_pt._4.flac.html http://rapidshare.com/files/154572113/FF00_20-1_pt._5.flac.html cheers Roger From neilsea@... Thu Oct 16 22:35:14 2008 From: neilsea@... (NeilC) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:35:14 +0100 Subject: 19991208 Message-ID: <003b01c92fce$b1cbed30$0202a8c0@Medion> The last half hour, been meaning to post this for ages.... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ENFDH2UN NeilC From neilsea@... Thu Oct 16 22:36:39 2008 From: neilsea@... (NeilC) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:36:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] 19991208 References: <003b01c92fce$b1cbed30$0202a8c0@Medion> Message-ID: <004601c92fce$e58002b0$0202a8c0@Medion> That should be the last hour! ----- Original Message ----- From: NeilC To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: [peel] 19991208 The last half hour, been meaning to post this for ages.... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ENFDH2UN NeilC From michstoecker@... Thu Oct 16 22:59:03 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:59:03 +0000 Subject: [peel] 19991208 In-Reply-To: <003b01c92fce$b1cbed30$0202a8c0@Medion> References: <003b01c92fce$b1cbed30$0202a8c0@Medion> Message-ID: Neil, Kudos for this. I don't suppose you have the first hour laying anywhere around? Michael To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: neilsea@btinternet.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:35:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] 19991208 The last half hour, been meaning to post this for ages.... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ENFDH2UN NeilC From neilsea@... Thu Oct 16 23:40:38 2008 From: neilsea@... (NeilC) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:40:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] 19991208 References: <003b01c92fce$b1cbed30$0202a8c0@Medion> Message-ID: <005a01c92fd7$d6c77600$0202a8c0@Medion> Nope, sorry, I remember recording it when I got home from the pub, missed the first hour. Quality should be good, it was recorded from satellite. NeilC ----- Original Message ----- From: michael stoecker To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [peel] 19991208 Neil, Kudos for this. I don't suppose you have the first hour laying anywhere around? Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: neilsea@... Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:35:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] 19991208 The last half hour, been meaning to post this for ages.... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ENFDH2UN NeilC From AndrewThezmore@... Fri Oct 17 00:59:25 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:59:25 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:__Editing_other_people=92s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mic Wiki Festive 50 pages looking good - more of the same please! Cheers Andrew --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Mic" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take > me some time to get there... > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive Fifties, > and the associated shows: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything > from. If that makes sense. > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run- of- > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got > the wrong end of the stick here? > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to > confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to > bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on the > site. > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a > bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just > hearing things? > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks – > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – but > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > from the shows? > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > Mic. > From AndrewThezmore@... Fri Oct 17 01:03:08 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:03:08 -0000 Subject: 19991208 In-Reply-To: <005a01c92fd7$d6c77600$0202a8c0@Medion> Message-ID: If this show had a Peelenium on it I can provide the rest of the show sometime in the near future --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "NeilC" wrote: > > Nope, sorry, I remember recording it when I got home from the pub, missed the first hour. Quality should be good, it was recorded from satellite. > > NeilC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael stoecker > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:59 PM > Subject: RE: [peel] 19991208 > > > > Neil, > > Kudos for this. I don't suppose you have the first hour laying anywhere around? > > Michael > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > From: neilsea@... > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:35:14 +0100 > Subject: [peel] 19991208 > > > > > The last half hour, been meaning to post this for ages.... > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ENFDH2UN > > NeilC > From ken_garner@... Fri Oct 17 01:21:44 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:21:44 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:__Editing_other_people=E2=80=99s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= In-Reply-To: <832216.64076.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks for the plug, but not necessarily true. I foolishly edited down my detailed listings on the Festive 50 shows for the book's shows index, fearing pressure of space. However, in the year since publication, with the help of many on this list, I have fleshed out the details on these show dates (from tapes, posts, diaries, etc), to the extent I only have one or two tiny uncertainties left. If it helps Mic, here is what I now know definitely happened on air on the 79 and 80 F50 shows on each date. Oh, and by the way, yes, you're right, that 79 Top 10 file has been proven to be an inaccurate post-event reconstruction, thanks to the wonderful full-show recordings posted here in recent months (thanks, John, Bill everyone!) ken 1979 F50 shows: Th 20/12 (Best sessions of the year pt 1: Cockney Rejects, The Jam #3, Killing Joke, Misty #1, Skids #4, Undertones #2) Festive 50 #50-41 M 24/12 Viv Stanshall (Best sessions of year pt 2: The Cure #2, The Damned #4, Secret Affair #2, Steel Pulse #3) Festive 50 #40-31 T 25/12 no show W 26/12 (Best Sessions of the year pt 3: Chords, Gary Numan & Tubeway Army, Penetration #2, Specials #2, Stiff Little Fingers #3) F50 30-21 Th 27/12 (Best sessions of the year pt 4: Buzzcocks #4, Magazine #3, Merton Parkas, The Selecter, Siouxsie and the Banshees #3, UK Subs #3) F50 20-11 M 31/12 no show T 1/1/80 (Best sessions of the year pt 5: The Beat #1, Capital Letters, Leyton Buzzards #3, Lene Lovich #2, The Police, Ruts #1) F50 10-1 1980 F50 shows: M 22/12 F50 50-41 (sessions details unknown) T 23/12 F50 40-31 (session details unknown) W 24/12 (Dexy's Midnight Runners, Spoldgenessabounds, Undertones #4) F50 30-21 Th 25/12 no show M 29/12 (Adam and the Ants #2, The Beat #2, Icarus, Killing Joke #2, Passions #3) F50- 20-11 T 30/12 (Bow Wow Wow, The Cure #3, Echo and the Bunnymen #3, Misty #3, Ruts #3, Teardrop Explodes #2) F50 10-1 W 31/12 no show --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Riving Ton wrote: > > < Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to > confirm this on the recording â€" can this be verified in any way? > > > You could try buying Ken Garner's excellent 'Peel Sessions' book - if there's a session in the show then Ken's book helps narrow down the dates. > > DeeDee > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mic > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:51:15 AM > Subject: [peel] Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions > > > Hi all, > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take > me some time to get there... > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 â€" 80 Festive Fifties, > and the associated shows: > http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1979_ Festive_fifty > http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1979_ Festive_fifty > http://peel. wikia.com/ wiki/1980_ Festive_Fifty > However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything > from. If that makes sense. > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of- > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got > the wrong end of the stick here? > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to > confirm this on the recording â€" can this be verified in any way? > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to > bring it to someone's attention â€" I can't see any contact info on the > site. > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a > bit less noise â€" perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just > hearing things? > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks â€" > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form â€" but > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > from the shows? > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > Mic. > From rushomancy@... Fri Oct 17 03:24:42 2008 From: rushomancy@... (rushomancy) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:24:42 -0000 Subject: Another round of requests Message-ID: Hey, guys. Just want to say thanks again for all the awesome stuff everybody here has been posting, and while I've been too busy to be able to contribute the way I'd like I have certainly appreciated everybody's work. That said, if it's still OK for me as a mostly-lurker to do this, there are a couple more Peel Sessions I'd like to request that I haven't been able to find anywhere. Specifically, I've not been able to track down the sessions by Brainiac or Servotron, both great bands from the mid to late '90s. Anyway, hopefully soon things will clear up a little and I'll be able to be of more use myself. Thanks! From dr_mango2004@... Fri Oct 17 03:49:25 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:49:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 8 November 1978 (new download: 400 box) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <516001.95878.qm@...> Following on from my last release, here's an hour from the next evening, Wednesday 8th November 1978. It's pretty much the first hour of the show, although the very beginning is missing and the tape starts mid-song with the Rezillos. Session wise, there's an interesting contrast here, with punkers Crisis sitting alongside the soft rock of the Roy Hill Band. The quality isn't the best. I suspect this could be sourced from medium wave given the occasional bursts of distortion and signal waver. I've boosted the top end a bit to brighten the final product and it's not too bad I suppose. Thanks, by the way, to Andy Brouwer, who runs a Roy Hill fan site, for identifying one of the session tracks for me. The tape runs out before JP announces it. File length: 1:06:45 (112 kbps mono mp3). File size: 53.4 MB Download: http://sharebee.com/5f99b299 Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_November_1978 Dr M. From alexrom1@... Fri Oct 17 05:58:42 2008 From: alexrom1@... (Alex Romanelli) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:58:42 -0000 Subject: Brainiac Peel session Message-ID: Since it was requested, here's a fan site with tons of info, downloads etc (5+ live DVDs for instance) and of course, the 1995 Peel session: http://deeperintomovies.net/brainiac/audio.html Alex From tonydonaghey@... Fri Oct 17 11:24:17 2008 From: tonydonaghey@... (tony donaghey) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Dandelion DVD featuring John Message-ID: <399149.11738.qm@...> This from another Yahoo group. A concert was held a year or so before Peel died celebrating the Dandelion label - it saw a one off performance by Kevin Coyne's band Siren and Jon Fiddler - the DVD is about to surface finally. Tony From today's big O mailing: He's not forgotten. 'John Peel's Dandelion Records' (DVD) is set for release Nov 17 for �15.99. The legendary UK radio broadcaster John Peel started his own record label along with business partner Clive Selwood in 1969. Some of the musicians who were fortunate enough to be on John Peel's Dandelion label have filmed their performances and you get to hear their stories. This DVD is just over six hours long. Featuring the following : One of Kevin Coyne's last concerts and his only full reunion with his Siren Dandelion bandmates in 30 years. Stack Waddy's 2007 reunion studio / rehearsals and hilarious interviews with all four band members. Medicine Head - John Fiddler concert performances. Bridget St John - interview and concert footage. Tractor- previously unreleased '70s footage and recent rehearsals and concert outtakes and all about Dandelion studios Rochdale and Tractor sound studios." Dave From deedeeramain@... Fri Oct 17 11:46:09 2008 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Also editing other people's work... Message-ID: <791121.88262.qm@...> Just listened to this......so coool! If you haven't downloaded it yet - I thoroughly recommend it! Well done Thomas and thanks for sharing it with us! DeeDee ----- Original Message ---- From: tabdrinkink74 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:16:13 AM Subject: [peel] Also editing other people's work... Hi there, i'm new here too and thought i'd share with you something i made for John Peel Day. (i do realise it might have been last week but i thought i'd put it up now in case it is this week.) i have put together my own sort of Peel show compiling together bits of other shows, mostly shows that were uploaded by people here! It makes more sense when you read this i guess: http://beeandchick. blogspot. com/2008/ 10/john-peel- day-mixtape. html Or if you don't want to see the tracklisting in advance (surprise is great i find!) then go straight here: http://www.megauplo ad.com/? d=9X5W1FAG Hope you enjoy! thomas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rushomancy@... Fri Oct 17 13:47:25 2008 From: rushomancy@... (rushomancy) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:47:25 -0000 Subject: Brainiac Peel session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Romanelli" wrote: > > Since it was requested, here's a fan site with tons of info, downloads > etc (5+ live DVDs for instance) and of course, the 1995 Peel session: > > http://deeperintomovies.net/brainiac/audio.html > > Alex > Now I'm embarassed :) I knew about that site, but didn't know they had the Brainiac session now- thanks! From Phyll@... Fri Oct 17 14:02:42 2008 From: Phyll@... (Phyll@...) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:02:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Neave in the Library Message-ID: <22024537.210661224244962037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3708> I don't know if anyone remembers the poet/writer Tim Neave's work, it appeared on the Peel show in a number of guises - he did tracks with the Jazz Cigarettes, Dubclash and Larrousse Electronique which peel played. Anyway he's got a book out that's being given away free in libraries in North Lincolnshire for the next couple of weeks if anyone one the list is in the area and is interested. Brilliant work all you rippers, by the way. Much appreciated. From saipanda@... Fri Oct 17 14:30:13 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:30:13 -0000 Subject: Also editing other people's work... In-Reply-To: <791121.88262.qm@...> Message-ID: Seconded! Amazing piece of work. Good one, Thomas. Yeah, thanks for sharing it. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Riving Ton wrote: > > Just listened to this......so coool! > > If you haven't downloaded it yet - I thoroughly recommend it! > > Well done Thomas and thanks for sharing it with us! > > DeeDee > From Phyll@... Fri Oct 17 17:18:40 2008 From: Phyll@... (Phyll@...) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Daft question but... Message-ID: <15322817.907061224256720345.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> The 'Peel out in the States' CD for sale on ebay - it's a bootleg right?? Im sure i'd have spotted and picked up such an item at the time if it weren't. Of course, by telling you lot, my chances of buying it if it is bona fide are now pretty slim, but whatever... From thebarguest@... Fri Oct 17 19:55:37 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:55:37 -0000 Subject: Another Train to be named "John Peel" ! Message-ID: A Merseyrail one. I think JP will be esp pleased about this, because its an honour in his favourite area (Liverpool). Be warned if you should ever step into said machine - some journeys take over an hour and there are no bogs !! From robfleay@... Fri Oct 17 19:56:32 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:32 +0000 Subject: [peel] Dandelion DVD featuring John Message-ID: <20081017175632.JSGX19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Is this another bootleg quality offering by the shysters at Ozit by any chance? > > From: tony donaghey > Date: 2008/10/17 Fri AM 09:24:17 GMT > To: peel > Subject: [peel] Dandelion DVD featuring John > > This from another Yahoo group. A concert was held a year or so before Peel died celebrating the Dandelion label - it saw a one off performance by Kevin Coyne's band Siren and Jon Fiddler - the DVD is about to surface finally. > Tony > From today's big O mailing: > > He's not forgotten. 'John Peel's Dandelion Records' (DVD) is set for > release Nov 17 for �15.99. > The legendary UK radio broadcaster John Peel started his own record > label along with > business partner Clive Selwood in 1969. Some of the musicians who were > fortunate enough > to be on John Peel's Dandelion label have filmed their performances and > you get to hear their > stories. This DVD is just over six hours long. Featuring the following > : One of Kevin Coyne's > last concerts and his only full reunion with his Siren Dandelion > bandmates in 30 years. Stack > Waddy's 2007 reunion studio / rehearsals and hilarious interviews with > all four band > members. Medicine Head - John Fiddler concert performances. Bridget St > John - interview > and concert footage. Tractor- previously unreleased '70s footage and > recent rehearsals and > concert outtakes and all about Dandelion studios Rochdale and Tractor > sound studios." > > Dave > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Fri Oct 17 21:36:18 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:36:18 EDT Subject: [peel] Another Train to be named "John Peel" ! Message-ID: > < some journeys take over an hour and there are no bogs !!>> > Does it go at the right speed? Rocker From AndrewThezmore@... Fri Oct 17 22:15:12 2008 From: AndrewThezmore@... (andrewthezmore) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:15:12 -0000 Subject: Another Train to be named "John Peel" ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Right speed, wrong track. I'll get me coat --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > < > some journeys take over an hour and there are no bogs !!>> > > > Does it go at the right speed? > > Rocker > From dunelm@... Fri Oct 17 22:41:37 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:41:37 -0000 Subject: Radio Radio Message-ID: In 1986 BBC Radio 1 made a series of programmes called Radio Radio, one of the programmes being devoted to John Peel. First transmitted on 8 February 1986. http://rapidshare.com/files/155003713/radiopeel19860208.mp3 From tonydonaghey@... Fri Oct 17 22:47:11 2008 From: tonydonaghey@... (tony donaghey) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Dandelion DVD featuring John In-Reply-To: <20081017175632.JSGX19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <70093.82251.qm@...> I hope not - it is from them but as I've not seen any of their previous stuff I can't comment - been waiting to see the footage of Kevin since it was filmed. Tony RobF wrote: Is this another bootleg quality offering by the shysters at Ozit by any chance? > > From: tony donaghey > Date: 2008/10/17 Fri AM 09:24:17 GMT > To: peel > Subject: [peel] Dandelion DVD featuring John > > This from another Yahoo group. A concert was held a year or so before Peel died celebrating the Dandelion label - it saw a one off performance by Kevin Coyne's band Siren and Jon Fiddler - the DVD is about to surface finally. > Tony > From today's big O mailing: > > He's not forgotten. 'John Peel's Dandelion Records' (DVD) is set for > release Nov 17 for �15.99. > The legendary UK radio broadcaster John Peel started his own record > label along with > business partner Clive Selwood in 1969. Some of the musicians who were > fortunate enough > to be on John Peel's Dandelion label have filmed their performances and > you get to hear their > stories. This DVD is just over six hours long. Featuring the following > : One of Kevin Coyne's > last concerts and his only full reunion with his Siren Dandelion > bandmates in 30 years. Stack > Waddy's 2007 reunion studio / rehearsals and hilarious interviews with > all four band > members. Medicine Head - John Fiddler concert performances. Bridget St > John - interview > and concert footage. Tractor- previously unreleased '70s footage and > recent rehearsals and > concert outtakes and all about Dandelion studios Rochdale and Tractor > sound studios." > > Dave > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From michstoecker@... Sat Oct 18 01:33:03 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:33:03 +0000 Subject: [peel] Daft question but... In-Reply-To: <15322817.907061224256720345.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> References: <15322817.907061224256720345.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> Message-ID: Dont buy that CD, its a terrible looking bootleg. The cover isn't even a quality print. Bottom line, shows 3 & 4 of Peel Out in the States are owned by tons of people and well shared. In fact the torrent of shows 1-18 are still up on Pirate Bay. To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: Phyll@...net.co.uk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:18:40 +0200 Subject: [peel] Daft question but... The 'Peel out in the States' CD for sale on ebay - it's a bootleg right?? Im sure i'd have spotted and picked up such an item at the time if it weren't. Of course, by telling you lot, my chances of buying it if it is bona fide are now pretty slim, but whatever... From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 18 02:42:07 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:42:07 -0000 Subject: best of peel vol 12[all with introductions] Message-ID: hello fellow fanatics,not sure if my first attempt at this uploading lark is going to work but here goes anyway,this is vol 12 of about 90 i`ve got in my bottom drawer,this one features bolthrower in session from the night in question and selected tracks that were culled from various shows. [no dates and none in the series are complete shows] http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ftappqod From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 18 04:05:54 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:05:54 -0000 Subject: best of peel vol 12[all with introductions] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice one, Mike: keep 'em coming! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > hello fellow fanatics,not sure if my first attempt at this uploading > lark is going to work but here goes anyway,this is vol 12 of about 90 > i`ve got in my bottom drawer,this one features bolthrower in session > from the night in question and selected tracks that were culled from > various shows. [no dates and none in the series are complete shows] > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ftappqod > From robfleay@... Sat Oct 18 11:42:40 2008 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 9:42:40 +0000 Subject: 400 Box New Shows (RF Batch Two) Message-ID: <20081018094240.OVHS19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Brace yourselves and prepare to nudge your bandwidth-ometers into the red...as I've just completed my 2nd batch of 400 Box Tapes and here are the results. First up I managed to complete a couple of shows that were previously uploaded in an incomplete form (from Batch One that I received): ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/27_June_1979 Leyton Buzzards 3rd session and Raincoats 1st session ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/17_September_1979 Stiff Little Fingers 3rd session ==== This one is still incomplete but is now only missing the last 30 minutes: ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/18_September_1979 Madness 1st and only session and Wire 3rd session ==== And then a few brand new complete shows: ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_September_1979 Quads 1st session and Cockney Rejects 1st session ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/11_September_1979 Loudon Wainwright III 7th session and The Cravats 1st session ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/12_September_1979 The Flowers 1st session & Merton Parkas 1st Session ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/04_October_1979 Vitus Dance 1st and only session ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/08_October_1979 OMD 1st session and The Flys 3rd session ==== Finally a couple of new incomplete shows ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/28_June_1979 UK Subs 3rd Session (1hr 18 mins only) ==== http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/13_September_1979 The Prats 1st session (last 25 mins only) ==== The links are all at the foot of the Wiki Pages, or alternately, my mediafire folder with ALL the 400 Box shows I've ripped is here http://tinyurl.com/6zog77 Enjoy! ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From saipanda@... Sat Oct 18 12:38:52 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:38:52 -0000 Subject: 400 Box New Shows (RF Batch Two) In-Reply-To: <20081018094240.OVHS19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: Cheers indeed, Rob. Many thanks for all your hard work! Can't wait to listen to them all. Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, RobF wrote: > > Brace yourselves and prepare to nudge your bandwidth-ometers into the red...as I've just completed my 2nd batch of 400 Box Tapes and here are the results. From rockerq@... Sat Oct 18 15:56:36 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:56:36 EDT Subject: [peel] 400 Box New Shows (RF Batch Two) Message-ID: Cheers Rob! Look forward to receiving the flacs! That mediafire works better for me than megaupload - cos I don't have a megaupload account I can only dl one file at a time, and a few per day. Cheers! Rocker From r0bertward@... Sat Oct 18 16:51:22 2008 From: r0bertward@... (r0bertward) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:51:22 -0000 Subject: Radio Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That was rather wonderful, thanks very much --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > In 1986 BBC Radio 1 made a series of programmes called Radio Radio, one > of the programmes being devoted to John Peel. > > First transmitted on 8 February 1986. > > http://rapidshare.com/files/155003713/radiopeel19860208.mp3 > From alexrom1@... Sat Oct 18 19:15:02 2008 From: alexrom1@... (Alex Romanelli) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Daft question but... (Peel Out in the States) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <96909.70958.qm@...> Are the "Peel Out in the States" CDs all bootlegs then? I always thought they were legitimate US releases, the radio shows certainly sound like Peel was recording them specifically for US broadcast. I have some on CD, but the easiest way to get them is from piratebay.org. --- On Fri, 10/17/08, michael stoecker wrote: From: michael stoecker Subject: RE: [peel] Daft question but... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:33 PM Dont buy that CD, its a terrible looking bootleg. The cover isn't even a quality print. Bottom line, shows 3 & 4 of Peel Out in the States are owned by tons of people and well shared. In fact the torrent of shows 1-18 are still up on Pirate Bay. To: peel@yahoogroups. com From: Phyll@doomlord. fsnet.co. uk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:18:40 +0200 Subject: [peel] Daft question but... The 'Peel out in the States' CD for sale on ebay - it's a bootleg right?? Im sure i'd have spotted and picked up such an item at the time if it weren't. Of course, by telling you lot, my chances of buying it if it is bona fide are now pretty slim, but whatever... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From michstoecker@... Sat Oct 18 20:37:01 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:37:01 +0000 Subject: [peel] Daft question but... (Peel Out in the States) In-Reply-To: <96909.70958.qm@...> References: <96909.70958.qm@...> Message-ID: They were never an official release. The copies floating around on CD were distribution to radio stations in the US in order to play the shows through syndication. I never really considered them to have the status of a real album. The one on ebay that you were looking at is the same format as the ones that were sent out in the mail, but from the photo, I swore it was a copy. Perhaps I'm wrong. Check out the US Amazon website and you find five or six of them for about $7-13 a piece. To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: alexrom1@... Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:15:02 -0700 Subject: RE: [peel] Daft question but... (Peel Out in the States) Are the "Peel Out in the States" CDs all bootlegs then? I always thought they were legitimate US releases, the radio shows certainly sound like Peel was recording them specifically for US broadcast. I have some on CD, but the easiest way to get them is from piratebay.org. --- On Fri, 10/17/08, michael stoecker wrote: From: michael stoecker Subject: RE: [peel] Daft question but... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:33 PM Dont buy that CD, its a terrible looking bootleg. The cover isn't even a quality print. Bottom line, shows 3 & 4 of Peel Out in the States are owned by tons of people and well shared. In fact the torrent of shows 1-18 are still up on Pirate Bay. To: peel@yahoogroups. com From: Phyll@doomlord. fsnet.co. uk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:18:40 +0200 Subject: [peel] Daft question but... The 'Peel out in the States' CD for sale on ebay - it's a bootleg right?? Im sure i'd have spotted and picked up such an item at the time if it weren't. Of course, by telling you lot, my chances of buying it if it is bona fide are now pretty slim, but whatever... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From parkermike81@... Sun Oct 19 17:10:45 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:10:45 -0000 Subject: best of peel vol 11[with introductions] Message-ID: all records comp featuring pasca the swedish elvis. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=zlrijz2d From bill.spiby@... Sun Oct 19 17:20:15 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:20:15 +0100 Subject: [peel] Editing other =?ISO-8859-1?B?cGVvcGxlknM=?= work / FF79 & 80 questions Message-ID: <20081019152015.HWNW22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Hi Mic, These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of comments: 1978 37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, therefore it's the single) 34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) 20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible single version rather than the Sire LP) 10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear the start of Smarter than You coming in) 1979 22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) 16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) 02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP really) 1980 42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) 29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) 08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. Kind regards Bill > > From: "Mic" > Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Editing other people�s work / FF79 & 80 questions > > Hi all, > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take > me some time to get there... > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 � 80 Festive Fifties, > and the associated shows: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything > from. If that makes sense. > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of- > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got > the wrong end of the stick here? > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to > confirm this on the recording � can this be verified in any way? > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to > bring it to someone's attention � I can't see any contact info on the > site. > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a > bit less noise � perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just > hearing things? > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks � > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form � but > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > from the shows? > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > Mic. > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Oct 20 05:40:29 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:40:29 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) Message-ID: Fellow Peelites Show: Friday 10 November 1995 Session artists: Heads, Distorted Waves Of Ohm (repeat) Download links: Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NGMQWHI Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=293I3QGC Part 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WIBU1K6 Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVFUS6DG Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1995 Part Three starts very wobbly indeed but picks up quickly, and I have spared you the Bon Jovi track that originally started Part 4, from a show called 'Power Hour'. God help us. There will be no more shows from the 500 Box until I have returned these to Colin. I hope you have all enjoyed the rips so far. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] From saipanda@... Mon Oct 20 05:45:20 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:45:20 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks for this and the other shows from Colin's box, Steve. Great stuff. Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Fellow Peelites > > Show: Friday 10 November 1995 > Session artists: Heads, Distorted Waves Of Ohm (repeat) > Download links: > Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NGMQWHI > Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=293I3QGC > Part 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WIBU1K6 > Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVFUS6DG > Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1995 > From roger.carruthers@... Mon Oct 20 14:46:12 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (bty997881) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:46:12 -0000 Subject: Mouldy old tapes Message-ID: Just tackling the last two tapes of my second batch of the 400, both of which have a particularly nasty dose of the White Fungus of Death, so I thought thought I'd share with you the damage limitation technique I'm using. It seems that the worst of the fungus is on the edge of the tapes, rather than on the face, so what I've been doing is cracking open the cases, and cleaning it off with cotton buds dipped in isopropyl alcohol. This is safe and fairly effective, and not only helps reduce the amount of gak shed into the works of the machine, but also reduces the friction between the tapes and the side of the casing, making them play more smoothly. Judging by the colour of the used buds, this is also an effective way of catching a lot of the oxide debris too. Most of the tapes are in 'sealed', rather than screwed enclosures, but I've found that you can crack them quite cleanly by inserting a flat blade screwdriver into the record tab holes and twisting, then open the cases by running a Stanley blade down the crack you've made. I don't suppose that alcohol does much damage to fungal spores, but short of reaching for the Dithane left over from this summer's abysmal attempt to grow tomatoes in a Welsh climate, I'm not sure there's much that can be done in this respect. Happy ripping! Roger From bill.spiby@... Mon Oct 20 15:00:29 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (spib2003) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:00:29 -0000 Subject: 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm off work this week, so at some point will gather my notes and post an ubernerd pedantfest with regard to the 1977 Forgotten 50 (61 actually!). But in anticipation of that, here's a reminder of the 'final' version for 1976 (huge thanks to all who contacted me with amendments and of course to Ken for pasBs). In case you forgot (or more likely didn't care) - I'm trying to collect all Festive 50 entries primarily in version played and then in any other eligible broadcast or released version. Any further amendments to 76 are very welcome. Mic's recent and hopefully ongoing work should prove invaluable once I get on to 78+. John Peel Festive 50 1976 1 Led Zeppelin – Stairway to Heaven Played from LP Led Zeppelin IV (8.00) Eligible: live version from The Song Remains the Same (10.58) The `In Concert' version broadcast on Radio 1 (8.49) 2 Derek and the Dominoes – Layla Played from LP Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs (7.04) Also eligible: the truncated single (2.43) 3 Bob Dylan – Desolation Row Played from LP Highway 61 Revisited 4 Pink Floyd - Echoes Probably from Meddle (23.21) Eligible: live version recorded Sept 30th 1971 BBC Paris Cinema 5 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – All Along the Watchtower Played single (4.00) Eligible: Live version on Isle of Wight (5.39) US version of compilation Smash Hits (alternate take) (4.00) 6 Free – All Right Now Played from LP Fire and Water (5.32) Eligible: truncated reworked single (4.18) BBC session version BBC In Concert version Live version on Free Live! (6.24) 7 Racing Cars – They Shoot Horses Don't They Played from LP Downtown Tonight Eligible: Peel Session 8 Pink Floyd – Shine on You Crazy Diamond Played parts 1-5 from LP Wish You Were Here (13.31) Eligible: Parts 6-9 from Wish You Were Here (12.28) 9 The Beatles – A Day in the Life Played from Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (5.33) 10 Bob Dylan – Like A Rolling Stone Played single from LP Greatest Hits (6.09) Eligible: live version on Self-Portrait (5.18) Live version on Before the Flood (7.09) 11 Poco – Rose of Cimarron Played from LP Rose of Cimarron (6.42) 12 Neil Young – Cortez the Killer Played from LP Zuma (7.29) 13 The Rolling Stones – Brown Sugar Played Sticky Fingers LP version from LP Made in the Shade (3.50) 14 The Beatles – Hey Jude Played single version from LP Hey Jude (7.05) 15 Legendary Stardust Cowboy - Paralysed Played single 16 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) Played single Eligible: Live version on Hendrix in the West (7.49) 17 The Beatles – Strawberry Fields Forever Played single version from LP Magical Mystery Tour (4.10) 18 Captain Beefheart – Big Eyed Beans from Venus Played from LP Clear Spot (4.23) 19 Led Zeppelin – Whole Lotta Love Played from LP Led Zeppelin II (5.34) Eligible: live version from The Song Remains the Same LP (14.25) The Top Gear session (6.09) The `In Concert' version broadcast on Radio 1 (13.45) 20 Lynyrd Skynyrd – Freebird Played from LP pronounced leh-nerd skin-nerd (9.07) Eligible: Live version on One More from the Road (11.30) 21 Van Morrison – Madame George Played from LP Astral Weeks (9.45) Eligible: TB Sheets version (5.13) 22 The Doors – Riders on the Storm Played from LP LA Woman (7.09) Eligible: single edit (4.35) 23 Bob Dylan – Visions of Johanna Played from LP Blonde on Blonde 24 Jefferson Airplane – White Rabbit Played the single (2.30) Eligible: Mono single mix (2.58) 25 Deep Purple – Child in Time Played from LP In Rock (10.18) Eligible: Live version on Made in Japan (12.24) 26 Little Feat – Long Distance Love Played from LP The Last Record Album (2.43) 27 Grinderswitch – Pickin' the Blues Played the single (3.10) Eligible: Macon Tracks version (5.04) 28 Joe Walsh – Rocky Mountain Way Played the single (2.40) Eligible: LP version The Smoker You Drink, the Player You Get (5.15) Live version on You Can't Argue with a Sick Mind (7.40) 29 The Who – Won't Get Fooled Again Played Who's Next LP version from The Story of the Who (8.32) Eligible: single edit (3.38) 30 The Misunderstood – I Can Take You to the Sun Played the single 31 Genesis – Supper's Ready Played from LP Foxtrot (22.54) 32 Bob Marley and the Wailers – No Woman, No Cry Played from LP Live at the Lyceum Eligible: the original version on Natty Dread (4.06) 33 Jonathan Richman and the Modern lovers - Roadrunner Played from Beserkley single version from LP Chartbusters Eligible: The earlier John Cale produced single (4.04) which crops up on The Modern Lovers LP and was called Roadrunner (Twice) when reissued with the above 34 Rod Stewart – Maggie May Played the single (5.46) 35 Jackson Browne – Late for the Sky Played from LP Late for the Sky LP (5.36) 36 Led Zeppelin – Kashmir Played from LP Physical Graffiti (8.28) 37 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Hey Joe Played the single (3.30) Eligible: Live version from Soundtrack Recordings from the Film Jimi Hendrix (3.50) 38 Allman Brothers Band – Jessica Played from LP Brothers and Sisters (7.31) Eligible: single edit (7.00) Live version on Wipe the Windows, Check the Oil, Dollar Gas (9.05) 39 The Rolling Stones – Jumping Jack Flash Played single version from Through The Past Darkly LP (3.43) Eligible: Live version on Get Your Ya-Ya's Out (4.02) 40 Grateful Dead – Dark Star Played from LP Live/Dead (23.18) Eligible: single (2.44) 41 Richard and Linda Thompson – I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight Played from LP I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight 42 Family – The Weavers Answer Played from LP Best of Family [pasB running time suggests this was remixed version from Old Songs, New Songs] Eligible: Family Entertainment LP version The BBC session version 43 Jackson Browne – Fountain of Sorrow Played from LP Late for the Sky (6.42) 44 Bob Dylan – Hurricane Played from LP Desire (8.33) 45 The Doors – Light My Fire Played from LP The Doors (7.06) Eligible: the truncated single (3.07) The radio edit 46 Matching Mole – O Caroline Played from LP Matching Mole (5.05) 47 Roy Harper – When an Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease Played from LP HQ 48 Wild Man Fischer – Go to Rhino Records Played single 49 Little Feat – Willin' Played from LP Sailin' Shoes (2.57) Eligible: The original version on Little Feat LP (2.24) 50 Yes – And You and I Played from LP Close to the Edge (10.08) Eligible: live version on Yessongs (9.33) Take care Bill From roger.carruthers@... Mon Oct 20 16:47:07 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (bty997881) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:47:07 -0000 Subject: Updated spreadsheet Message-ID: Is there an updated version of the 400 box spreadsheet? I have looked in the Files area, but seen nothing newer than the one I have, and I'm having trouble trying to identify a couple of the tapes I've just ripped... cheers Roger From saipanda@... Mon Oct 20 17:02:48 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:02:48 -0000 Subject: Updated spreadsheet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Roger, Thanks for all your hard work with the 400 Box ripping. A little while back I updated the Wiki with Rocker's latest spreadsheet, downloaded from his computer, which may be more recent than the version in the site files: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box Hope this helps. Cheers, Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" wrote: > > Is there an updated version of the 400 box spreadsheet? I have looked in the Files area, but > seen nothing newer than the one I have, and I'm having trouble trying to identify a couple of > the tapes I've just ripped... > cheers > Roger > From roger.carruthers@... Mon Oct 20 17:29:00 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:29:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Updated spreadsheet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <845793.34924.qm@...> Wow - thanks for all /your/ hard work. This should make things a lot clearer, cheers Roger --- On Mon, 20/10/08, saipanda wrote: > From: saipanda > Subject: [peel] Re: Updated spreadsheet > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 4:02 PM > Hi Roger, > > Thanks for all your hard work with the 400 Box ripping. > > A little while back I updated the Wiki with Rocker's > latest spreadsheet, downloaded from > his computer, which may be more recent than the version in > the site files: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/400_Box > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty997881" > wrote: > > > > Is there an updated version of the 400 box > spreadsheet? I have looked in the Files area, > but > > seen nothing newer than the one I have, and I'm > having trouble trying to identify a > couple of > > the tapes I've just ripped... > > cheers > > Roger > > From martinw@... Mon Oct 20 17:29:28 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:29:28 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 14:00 20/10/2008, Bill wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I'm off work this week, so at some point will gather my notes and >post an ubernerd pedantfest with regard to the 1977 Forgotten 50 (61 >actually!). But in anticipation of that, here's a reminder of >the 'final' version for 1976 (huge thanks to all who contacted me >with amendments and of course to Ken for pasBs). In case you forgot >(or more likely didn't care) - I'm trying to collect all Festive 50 >entries primarily in version played and then in any other eligible >broadcast or released version. Any further amendments to 76 are very >welcome. Mic's recent and hopefully ongoing work should prove >invaluable once I get on to 78+. I want to make some comments about sessions and their availability as I understand it Nowadays 6Music has access to all the BBC Archives but that wasn't the situation pre-6Music. Sessions were made for a specific prog and only available for that prog because the cost came out of that programme's budget. The BBC was split into very small sections financially and the reason Peel mostly played records from his own collection was because the BBC Library had to be paid for every track used from it Peel had no access to In Concert tracks nor to Evening Show or Kershaw sessions even if he wanted to and those shows had no access to Peel sessions Any session tracks in the Festive Fifty would have been either from Peel sessions (or later on some live Maida Vale performances) or other sessions only if they had been issued on record (as a B-side maybe or something like that) martinw From theallnewadventuresofspp@... Mon Oct 20 18:23:04 2008 From: theallnewadventuresofspp@... (stephen phythian) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:23:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <480152.89816.qm@...> "Nowadays 6Music has access to all the BBC Archives but that wasn't the situation pre-6Music."   Are you sure this is the case now? I remember not very long ago Marc Riley bemonaing the fact that there were certain sessions not available to choose for his 'Peel by Request' slot (one of the Nirvana ones IIRC, but there may be others) --- On Mon, 20/10/08, Martin Wheatley wrote: From: Martin Wheatley Subject: Re: [peel] 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 4:29 PM At 14:00 20/10/2008, Bill wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I'm off work this week, so at some point will gather my notes and >post an ubernerd pedantfest with regard to the 1977 Forgotten 50 (61 >actually!). But in anticipation of that, here's a reminder of >the 'final' version for 1976 (huge thanks to all who contacted me >with amendments and of course to Ken for pasBs). In case you forgot >(or more likely didn't care) - I'm trying to collect all Festive 50 >entries primarily in version played and then in any other eligible >broadcast or released version. Any further amendments to 76 are very >welcome. Mic's recent and hopefully ongoing work should prove >invaluable once I get on to 78+. I want to make some comments about sessions and their availability as I understand it Nowadays 6Music has access to all the BBC Archives but that wasn't the situation pre-6Music. Sessions were made for a specific prog and only available for that prog because the cost came out of that programme's budget. The BBC was split into very small sections financially and the reason Peel mostly played records from his own collection was because the BBC Library had to be paid for every track used from it Peel had no access to In Concert tracks nor to Evening Show or Kershaw sessions even if he wanted to and those shows had no access to Peel sessions Any session tracks in the Festive Fifty would have been either from Peel sessions (or later on some live Maida Vale performances) or other sessions only if they had been issued on record (as a B-side maybe or something like that) martinw Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From bill.spiby@... Mon Oct 20 19:04:00 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:04:00 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) Message-ID: <20081020170400.RMOL19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Thanks Martin, That's helpful. I can think of a few later entries where that may become relevant. Regards Bill > > From: Martin Wheatley > Date: 2008/10/20 Mon PM 04:29:28 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) > > At 14:00 20/10/2008, Bill wrote: > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I'm off work this week, so at some point will gather my notes and > >post an ubernerd pedantfest with regard to the 1977 Forgotten 50 (61 > >actually!). But in anticipation of that, here's a reminder of > >the 'final' version for 1976 (huge thanks to all who contacted me > >with amendments and of course to Ken for pasBs). In case you forgot > >(or more likely didn't care) - I'm trying to collect all Festive 50 > >entries primarily in version played and then in any other eligible > >broadcast or released version. Any further amendments to 76 are very > >welcome. Mic's recent and hopefully ongoing work should prove > >invaluable once I get on to 78+. > > I want to make some comments about sessions and their availability as I > understand it > Nowadays 6Music has access to all the BBC Archives but that wasn't > the situation pre-6Music. Sessions were made for a specific prog and > only available for that prog because the cost came out of that programme's > budget. The BBC was split into very small sections financially and > the reason Peel mostly played records from his own collection was > because the BBC Library had to be paid for every track used from it > Peel had no access to In Concert tracks nor to Evening Show or Kershaw > sessions even if he wanted to and those shows had no access to Peel sessions > > Any session tracks in the Festive Fifty would have been either from > Peel sessions (or later on some live Maida Vale performances) or > other sessions only if they had been issued on record (as a B-side > maybe or something like that) > > martinw > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From colinbray@... Mon Oct 20 21:50:43 2008 From: colinbray@... (colin bray) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:50:43 +0000 Subject: [peel] 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't and never have listened to Bon Jovi except with extreme discomfort and reluctance. I just wanted to clear my name. Thank you. Colin. To: peel@yahoogroups.comFrom: so_it_goes_2512@...: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:40:29 +0000Subject: [peel] 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) Fellow PeelitesShow: Friday 10 November 1995Session artists: Heads, Distorted Waves Of Ohm (repeat)Download links:Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NGMQWHIPart 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=293I3QGCPart 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WIBU1K6Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVFUS6DGTracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1995Part Three starts very wobbly indeed but picks up quickly, and I havespared you the Bon Jovi track that originally started Part 4, from ashow called 'Power Hour'. God help us.There will be no more shows from the 500 Box until I have returnedthese to Colin. I hope you have all enjoyed the rips so far.Best wishesSteve [Teenage Kicks] _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 From martinw@... Mon Oct 20 22:43:04 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:43:04 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1976 Festive 50 (final scores on the doors) In-Reply-To: <480152.89816.qm@...> References: <480152.89816.qm@...> Message-ID: At 17:23 20/10/2008, you wrote: >"Nowadays 6Music has access to all the BBC Archives but that wasn't >the situation pre-6Music." > >Are you sure this is the case now? I remember not very long ago Marc >Riley bemonaing the fact that there were certain sessions not >available to choose for his 'Peel by Request' slot (one of the >Nirvana ones IIRC, but there may be others) There are always a few exceptions. I think Nirvana's sessions have been broadcast a lot of times since the original broadcasts. I suspect what happened was that the record company did a boxed set and did a deal with the BBC that these sessions would be blocked from broadcast for a while so it didn't conflict. When a group is signed to a major label that label does own the rights to all their output during the period of that contract including radio sessions so they do have some say martinw From troche@... Tue Oct 21 15:49:54 2008 From: troche@... (troche@...) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:49:54 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Magic Band new CD next month Message-ID: <29402002.1224596994618.JavaMail.root@...> Here is a news item concerning the forthcoming Magic Band CD of new material (sans the captain.) Note the title of track 6. tom r Captain Beefheart and The Magic Band Alums Reunite For New Drumbo Solo Project 10/21/2008 . (Glass Onion) John "Drumbo" French has reunited fellow Magic Band alumni Bill Harkelroad (aka "Zoot Horn Rollo"), Mark Boston (aka "Rockette Morton"), Greg Davidson (aka "Ella Guru"), and John Thomas for a solo recording of all new compositions entitled 'City of Refuge'. The self-produced album was recorded in London and at various locations in the U.S., and lands stateside November 18th on Proper Records. "I think 'City of Refuge' is important because it re-visits a style of music that was founded by Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart) and developed by various Magic Bands over the years. The music on this album came to me as total inspiration from being involved in The Magic Band reunion project. Listening to the music of Don Van Vliet and singing with the band, I realized that I was re-visiting my musical roots and wondered about how I had strayed so far away," French says. As the drummer and music director for revered iconoclasts Captain Beefheart and The Magic Band, Drumbo made central contributions to a handful of LPs – notably 1969's mind-altering, revered masterpiece 'Trout Mask Replica', on which French first acquired the antic stage-name "Drumbo" – that vastly expanded the parameters of contemporary music. French's influential contributions can also be found on projects with Frank Zappa, Mallard, Crazy Backwards Alphabet, Henry Kaiser and Richard Thompson, among others. French plans a U.S. tour in conjunction with his upcoming book, 'Beefheart: Through The Eyes Of Magic, Vol.1', to be released early next year. Basic Release Information: Drumbo/City of Refuge Catalog: PRPCD024 Release Date: November 18, 2008 Track Listing: 1. Bogeyman 2. Bus Ticket Outta Town 3. Blood on a Porcupine Quill 4. City of Refuge 5. Abandon 6. Get So Mean 7. Maybe That'll Teach Ya 8. To The Loft of Ravenscroft 9. The Shirt Off My Back 10. The Wicked Witch of War 11. Whose Side Ya On 12. The Withered Hand of Time antiMUSIC News is featured on RockNews.info and Yahoo News http://www.antimusic.com/news/08/oct/21Captain_Beefheart_and_The_Magic_Band_Alums_Reunite_For_New_Drumbo_Solo_Project.shtml -----Original Message----- >From: peel@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Oct 20, 2008 3:17 AM >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1993 > >There are 4 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > >1. best of peel vol 11[with introductions] > From: parkermike81 > >2. Re: Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions > From: bill.spiby@... > >3a. 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) > From: Steve >3b. Re: 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) > From: saipanda > > >Messages >________________________________________________________________________ >1. best of peel vol 11[with introductions] > Posted by: "parkermike81" parkermike81@... parkermike81 > Date: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:10 am ((PDT)) > >all records comp featuring pasca the swedish elvis. >http://www.megaupload.com/?d=zlrijz2d > > > >Messages in this topic (1) >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >2. Re: Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions > Posted by: "bill.spiby@..." bill.spiby@... spib2003 > Date: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:20 am ((PDT)) > >Hi Mic, > >These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of comments: > >1978 >37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, therefore it's the single) >34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) >20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible single version rather than the Sire LP) >10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear the start of Smarter than You coming in) > >1979 >22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) >16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) >02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP really) > >1980 >42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) >29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) >08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) > >I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. > >Kind regards >Bill >> >> From: "Mic" >> Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST >> To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [peel] Editing other people’s work / FF79 & 80 questions >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen >> to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are >> many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take >> me some time to get there... >> >> Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as >> to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those >> shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to >> assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something >> I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and >> while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. >> >> So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive Fifties, >> and the associated shows: >> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty >> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty >> http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty >> However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought >> I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just >> editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? >> I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously >> added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. >> >> Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much >> information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or >> music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; >> that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted >> what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his >> comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the >> tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I >> also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel >> sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of >> the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original >> show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I >> don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything >> from. If that makes sense. >> >> If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've >> also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting >> from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings >> available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 >> mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so >> I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't >> sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any >> fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of- >> the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 >> separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on >> the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue >> is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this >> actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other >> Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty >> (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got >> the wrong end of the stick here? >> >> Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got >> this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as >> being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to >> confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? >> >> Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here >> is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three >> sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the >> shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, >> these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's >> missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to >> bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on the >> site. >> >> Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a >> better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have >> identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a >> bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do >> people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just >> hearing things? >> >> Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of >> the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal >> or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in >> different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? >> >> And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. >> These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some >> reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch >> mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No >> offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks – >> it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – but >> does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments >> from the shows? >> >> That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in >> advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone >> who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. >> >> Mic. >> >> >> > >----------------------------------------- >Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email >Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > >Messages in this topic (1) >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >3a. 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) > Posted by: "Steve" so_it_goes_2512@... so_it_goes_2512 > Date: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:40 pm ((PDT)) > >Fellow Peelites > >Show: Friday 10 November 1995 >Session artists: Heads, Distorted Waves Of Ohm (repeat) >Download links: >Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NGMQWHI >Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=293I3QGC >Part 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WIBU1K6 >Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVFUS6DG >Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1995 > >Part Three starts very wobbly indeed but picks up quickly, and I have >spared you the Bon Jovi track that originally started Part 4, from a >show called 'Power Hour'. God help us. > >There will be no more shows from the 500 Box until I have returned >these to Colin. I hope you have all enjoyed the rips so far. > >Best wishes >Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > >Messages in this topic (2) >________________________________________________________________________ >3b. Re: 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) > Posted by: "saipanda" saipanda@... saipanda > Date: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:45 pm ((PDT)) > >Many thanks for this and the other shows from Colin's box, Steve. Great stuff. > >Cheers, > >Steve W > >--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: >> >> Fellow Peelites >> >> Show: Friday 10 November 1995 >> Session artists: Heads, Distorted Waves Of Ohm (repeat) >> Download links: >> Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NGMQWHI >> Part 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=293I3QGC >> Part 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WIBU1K6 >> Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVFUS6DG >> Tracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1995 >> > > > > > > >Messages in this topic (2) > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Oct 21 16:37:15 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:37:15 -0000 Subject: 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Colin Fear not, your reputation as a Peelite par excellence remains unimpeached. The police have been notified concerning the unauthorised inclusion of said material, and expect an arrest of a renegade group of cock rockers any day soon ;-)). Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, colin bray wrote: > > > I don't and never have listened to Bon Jovi except with extreme discomfort and reluctance. I just wanted to clear my name. Thank you. > > Colin. > > > > To: peel@...: so_it_goes_2512@...: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:40:29 +0000Subject: [peel] 500 Box: last show of first batch (10 November 1995) > > > > > Fellow PeelitesShow: Friday 10 November 1995Session artists: Heads, Distorted Waves Of Ohm (repeat)Download links:Part 1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7NGMQWHIPart 2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=293I3QGCPart 3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WIBU1K6Part 4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVFUS6DGTracklisting: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/10_November_1995Part Three starts very wobbly indeed but picks up quickly, and I havespared you the Bon Jovi track that originally started Part 4, from ashow called 'Power Hour'. God help us.There will be no more shows from the 500 Box until I have returnedthese to Colin. I hope you have all enjoyed the rips so far.Best wishesSteve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 > From lists@... Tue Oct 21 19:15:35 2008 From: lists@... (llrc057) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:15:35 -0000 Subject: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 Message-ID: Just uploaded the another batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html Latest additions denoted by * Sorry for the delay on this one. As usual please post all errors found. Regards Gary From michstoecker@... Tue Oct 21 20:06:27 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:06:27 +0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey everybody, Going thru my collection of session files and I have a 5 song session by a band called The 4 Skins. They aren't in Ken's book and I just dont think its a legit session. It has no date. They are an old school hardcore punk group. I'm getting ready to cast the files aside as not a session, but thought I'd ask the group just in case I'm wrong. Wouldn't the first time. Michael From rockerq@... Tue Oct 21 20:42:57 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:42:57 EDT Subject: [peel] Magic Band new CD next month Message-ID: You mean track 8? Sounds interesting! I wonder where I could find a promo! Cheers! Rocker From parkermike81@... Tue Oct 21 20:49:28 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:49:28 -0000 Subject: peel comp Message-ID: john peels classic mistakes[august 93 and beyond] http://www.megaupload.com/?d=w5d5zlek From michstoecker@... Tue Oct 21 22:52:49 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:52:49 +0000 Subject: [peel] Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks for yet another splendid batch of shows! Michael To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: lists@... Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:15:35 +0000 Subject: [peel] Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 Just uploaded the another batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html Latest additions denoted by * Sorry for the delay on this one. As usual please post all errors found. Regards Gary From michstoecker@... Wed Oct 22 00:55:59 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:55:59 +0000 Subject: [peel] Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can't seem to make either the mp3 or flac of the "phantom 91 F50 40-31" work? I just get a few empty KB's. Michael To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: lists@... Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:15:35 +0000 Subject: [peel] Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 Just uploaded the another batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html Latest additions denoted by * Sorry for the delay on this one. As usual please post all errors found. Regards Gary From martinw@... Wed Oct 22 02:00:36 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:00:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 19:06 21/10/2008, you wrote: >Hey everybody, > >Going thru my collection of session files and I have a 5 song >session by a band called The 4 Skins. They aren't in Ken's book and >I just dont think its a legit session. It has no date. They are an >old school hardcore punk group. > >I'm getting ready to cast the files aside as not a session, but >thought I'd ask the group just in case I'm wrong. Wouldn't the first time. > >Michael Seems unlikely Too many right wing connections for Peel to have gone near them martinw From dr_mango2004@... Wed Oct 22 02:45:36 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:45:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 21 November 1978 (new download: 400 box) Message-ID: <800570.55927.qm@...> Here's my next show to roll off the production line. I should be able to quicken things up now, as this is my last "biggie", the shows remaining being only one or two sides of a tape in length. This is Tuesday 21st November, from the week when Peel had to get used to not having a show on Friday due to the nascent Rock Show. Session comes from The Flys. The show is missing the last 20 minutes or so. Quality wise, there's an annoying whine that keeps up right until the middle of the very last track (typical). But I've done my best. File length: 1:37:51 (112 kbps mono mp3). File size: 78.3 MB Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J543DZ7F Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/21_November_1978 Dr M. From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Oct 22 04:24:36 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:24:36 -0000 Subject: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Gary The mp3 link for 12 June 92 pt 1 points to 1992-05-01 pt 1. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "llrc057" wrote: > > Just uploaded the another batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: > > www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html > > Latest additions denoted by * > > Sorry for the delay on this one. As usual please post all errors found. > > Regards > Gary > From r.fewster@... Wed Oct 22 09:09:32 2008 From: r.fewster@... (Richard Fewster) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:09:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6974965b0810220009r21129105gb855c9cdf90af4c4@...> From mark.whitby2@... Wed Oct 22 10:39:37 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:39:37 +0100 Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session References: Message-ID: Regarding right-wing connections, Skrewdriver did a session for Peel, didn't they? I don't recall a 4-Skins session though. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Wheatley To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session At 19:06 21/10/2008, you wrote: >Hey everybody, > >Going thru my collection of session files and I have a 5 song >session by a band called The 4 Skins. They aren't in Ken's book and >I just dont think its a legit session. It has no date. They are an >old school hardcore punk group. > >I'm getting ready to cast the files aside as not a session, but >thought I'd ask the group just in case I'm wrong. Wouldn't the first time. > >Michael Seems unlikely Too many right wing connections for Peel to have gone near them martinw From rockerq@... Wed Oct 22 11:00:11 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:00:11 EDT Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session Message-ID: > < didn't they?  I don't recall a 4-Skins session though. > Mark W>> > To be fair, the Skrewdriver session was recorded when they were just another punk band, a couple of years before they showed any fascist tendencies. Rocker From mark.whitby2@... Wed Oct 22 13:11:57 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:11:57 +0100 Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session References: Message-ID: That's true - in fact, to be honest, they weren't even really that "punk", to my ears anyway. I don't know whether the 4-Skins ever went through a similar pre-fascist phase though. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: rockerq@... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session <> To be fair, the Skrewdriver session was recorded when they were just another punk band, a couple of years before they showed any fascist tendencies. Rocker From lists@... Wed Oct 22 14:14:00 2008 From: lists@... (llrc057) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:14:00 -0000 Subject: Andrew's C90 Tape collection *4 In-Reply-To: <6974965b0810220009r21129105gb855c9cdf90af4c4@...> Message-ID: Sorted. Regards Gary --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Fewster" wrote: > > This is a fine collection, thanks to all for sharing it! > > I just spotted one more broken link actually - the one for 12th June 92 Part > 3 mp3. > > Cheers, > > Richard > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:15 PM, llrc057 wrote: > > > Just uploaded the another batch of Andrew's C90 tapes here: > > > > www.30242b.net/JP_AT_index.html > > > > Latest additions denoted by * > > > > Sorry for the delay on this one. As usual please post all errors found. > > > > Regards > > Gary > > > > > > > From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 14:51:23 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (spib2003) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:51:23 -0000 Subject: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: Dear all, Buckle up for the second wave of Festive 50 related queries. This time the subject is 1977's legendary `Forgotten Fifty' which helpfully consists of 61 tracks! The rules are as follows: I'm trying to identify the version that was played and thereafter any eligible version (i.e. released or broadcast up until that date). I'm excluding boots and TV appearances, although am open to persuasion on both (3am Eternal anyone?). Obviously 1977 is a funny one as there was only one `voter'. But working on the assumption that the great man could have heard (and therefore been influenced to choose by) any of the versions, I'm treating it the same as other years in terms of eligibility. So here goes: Does anyone know of any existing tapes of the broadcasts, or parts thereof? Has anyone access to any documentation/pasBs or even their own contemporary scribbles? Do any of our older listeners have any recollections of the versions played? But most of all, any insights or best guesses folks? Here's my list of `informed' guesses. Don't be scared of telling me I'm wrong - that's why I'm posting them here. John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away Probably played single (3.13) Eligible: Session 2 Althea & Donna – Uptown Top Ranking I think JP could only have played single, although despite its megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone help with details about this one? 3 The Motors – You Beat the Hell Out of Me Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) Eligible: Session 4 The Rezillos – I Can't Stand My Baby Had to be the single (2.35) 5 John Cooper Clarke – Suspended Sentence Had to be the single 6 Desperate Bicycles – Smokescreen Had to be the single (2.03) 7 Merlene Webber – Right Track Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? 8 Neil Young – Like a Hurricane Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP (8.14). This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. Eligible: Single (5.24) 9 The Clash – Complete Control Had to be single (3.10) 10 Frankie Miller – Be Good to Yourself I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) Eligible: Session 11 The Sex Pistols – Holidays in the Sun Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) 12 The Lurkers – Shadow Had to be single 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor – Truly These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one was originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played although technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco Mix released? 14 Pink Floyd – Pigs Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you accept those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 track version) (3.26) 15 Johnny Moped – Incendiary Device Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) 16 Some Chicken – New Religion Had to be Single (2.17) 17 Culture – See Them Come Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? 18 The Motors – Emergency Had to be session 19 The Yobs – The Worm Song Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are actually The Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) 20 The Boys – Box Number Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box Number 939 Eligible: Session 21 The Stranglers – London Lady Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? 22 Sham 69 – I Don't Wanna Had to be single (1.46) 23 The Ramones – Pinhead Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP (2.42) version. Anyone? 24 Jah Woosh – Freedom Connection Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't available at all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got any further info on this one? 25 Status Quo – Can't Give You More Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer – Blue Wind Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it case of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take as early? 27 The Clash – White Riot I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single (2.01) but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. 28 Iggy Pop – Success I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life single B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? 29 Generation X – Your Generation Going for the single (3.11) Eligible: Session 30 King Short Shirt – Nobody Go Run Me Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? 31 The Lurkers – Love Story Had to be B side of Shadow single 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Waiting in Vain Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? 33 Dr Feelgood – Paradise Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) 34 Five Hand Reel – Cruel Brother Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got to be For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release solo version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, so arguably this is eligible 35 The Saints – I'm Stranded Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same (3.25). Anyone? 36 David Bowie – "Heroes" Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown Eligible: Single edit (3.32) French language single edit "Heros" German language single edit "Helden" English/French hybrid full length version English/German hybrid full length version Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? 37 The Users – Sick on You Had to be single (3.20) 38 X Ray Spex – Oh Bondage Up Yours! Going for the single (2.45) Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 39 The Boomtown Rats – Lookin' After Number 1 Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP version is the same (3.06). Anyone? Eligible: Session 40 June Tabor – No Man's Land Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) Eligible: Session 41 The Damned – Neat Neat Neat Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are identical (2.46). Anyone? Eligible: Session 42 Ry Cooder – The Dark End of the Street Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! 43 Suburban Studs – Questions Had to be single (2.57) 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators – Feel Like Making Love Going for the single Eligible: B side `Version' 12" was this released in '77 though? 45 Dave Edmunds – I Knew the Bride Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile 46 The Jam – Away from the Numbers Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) 47 Wreckless Eric – (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World Probably played single Eligible: Session 48 Roy Buchanan – Green Onions Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? 49 Generation X – Wild Dub (Version) Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on eligibility of A side? 50 Snatch – I.R.T. B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side (think it's the same version – can anyone confirm?) 51 The Sex Pistols – Pretty Vacant Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) 52 The Oldham Tinkers – John Willie's Ferret Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP 53 Peter Tosh – Stepping Razor Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? 54 The Clash – Capital Radio Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One version) 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions – Watching the Detectives Had to be single (3.43) 56 The Motors – Bringing in the Morning Light Had to be session 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods – Beginning of the End Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) Eligible: Session 58 Devo – Jocko Homo Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) 59 The Buzzcocks – Whatever Happened To...? Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) 60 Little Feat – Rocket in My Pocket Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 61 The Sex Pistols – God Save the Queen Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) Look forward to hearing from you all. Regards Bill Spiby From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Oct 22 15:33:13 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:33:13 -0000 Subject: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Bill With regards to session eligibility, JP categorically stated in the 1983 FF that all tracks in the charts up to that date were played from the records, and that Sophie And Peter Johnson's 'Television' was the first session track to make the chart. On balance of probability, since he did best of year session shows anyway, he would not have played any session tracks for the chart. Thus 'Bring In The Morning Light' (and maybe even 'You Beat The Hell Outta Me') must have been from the first self-titled LP, as it was released in 1977. 'Dancing The Night Away' could easily have been the 12 inch or LP version (both longer than the 7 inch) as he spoke favourably about it in the existing show of 1977-12-28, and played that version in the 1978 FF. As for Jah Woosh, I had a conversation with Ken via email about this when I posted some reggae tracks from this chart last year, and I am of the opinion that it is an alternatively named version of 'Freedom', from, I think, 'Lick Him With The Dustbin'. The version played in the show of 1977-12-26 was on Jamaica Sound, JSD001. I checked the Jamaica Sound website (which I cannot find now) at the time for this, and they listed the release date as 1978. I cannot find that site now, so I posted 'Fredom' anyway in lieu of anything better. Hope this helps! Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "spib2003" wrote: > > Dear all, > Buckle up for the second wave of Festive 50 related queries. This > time the subject is 1977's legendary `Forgotten Fifty' which > helpfully consists of 61 tracks! The rules are as follows: I'm trying > to identify the version that was played and thereafter any eligible > version (i.e. released or broadcast up until that date). I'm > excluding boots and TV appearances, although am open to persuasion on > both (3am Eternal anyone?). Obviously 1977 is a funny one as there > was only one `voter'. But working on the assumption that the great > man could have heard (and therefore been influenced to choose by) any > of the versions, I'm treating it the same as other years in terms of > eligibility. > > So here goes: > Does anyone know of any existing tapes of the broadcasts, or parts > thereof? > Has anyone access to any documentation/pasBs or even their own > contemporary scribbles? > Do any of our older listeners have any recollections of the versions > played? > But most of all, any insights or best guesses folks? > > Here's my list of `informed' guesses. Don't be scared of telling me > I'm wrong - that's why I'm posting them here. > > John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) > 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away > Probably played single (3.13) > Eligible: Session > > 2 Althea & Donna – Uptown Top Ranking > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > help with details about this one? > > 3 The Motors – You Beat the Hell Out of Me > Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) > Eligible: Session > > 4 The Rezillos – I Can't Stand My Baby > Had to be the single (2.35) > > 5 John Cooper Clarke – Suspended Sentence > Had to be the single > > 6 Desperate Bicycles – Smokescreen > Had to be the single (2.03) > > 7 Merlene Webber – Right Track > Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a > promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? > > 8 Neil Young – Like a Hurricane > Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP (8.14). > This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. > Eligible: Single (5.24) > > 9 The Clash – Complete Control > Had to be single (3.10) > > 10 Frankie Miller – Be Good to Yourself > I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) > Eligible: Session > > 11 The Sex Pistols – Holidays in the Sun > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > 12 The Lurkers – Shadow > Had to be single > > 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor – Truly > These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one was > originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. > It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played although > technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the > Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco > Mix released? > > 14 Pink Floyd – Pigs > Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from > Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 > (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you accept > those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 track > version) (3.26) > > 15 Johnny Moped – Incendiary Device > Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) > > 16 Some Chicken – New Religion > Had to be Single (2.17) > > 17 Culture – See Them Come > Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is > the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other > contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can > anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? > > 18 The Motors – Emergency > Had to be session > > 19 The Yobs – The Worm Song > Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are actually The > Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) > > 20 The Boys – Box Number > Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box > Number 939 > Eligible: Session > > 21 The Stranglers – London Lady > Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus > Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? > > 22 Sham 69 – I Don't Wanna > Had to be single (1.46) > > 23 The Ramones – Pinhead > Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP > (2.42) version. Anyone? > > 24 Jah Woosh – Freedom Connection > Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't available at > all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got > any further info on this one? > > 25 Status Quo – Can't Give You More > Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) > > 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer – Blue Wind > Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group > Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it case > of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take > as early? > > 27 The Clash – White Riot > I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single (2.01) > but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly > helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. > > 28 Iggy Pop – Success > I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life single > B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? > > 29 Generation X – Your Generation > Going for the single (3.11) > Eligible: Session > > 30 King Short Shirt – Nobody Go Run Me > Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? > > 31 The Lurkers – Love Story > Had to be B side of Shadow single > > 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Waiting in Vain > Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? > > 33 Dr Feelgood – Paradise > Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) > > 34 Five Hand Reel – Cruel Brother > Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got to be > For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release solo > version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, > so arguably this is eligible > > 35 The Saints – I'm Stranded > Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same > (3.25). Anyone? > > 36 David Bowie – "Heroes" > Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP > version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown > Eligible: Single edit (3.32) > French language single edit "Heros" > German language single edit "Helden" > English/French hybrid full length version > English/German hybrid full length version > Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? > > 37 The Users – Sick on You > Had to be single (3.20) > > 38 X Ray Spex – Oh Bondage Up Yours! > Going for the single (2.45) > Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 > > 39 The Boomtown Rats – Lookin' After Number 1 > Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP version is > the same (3.06). Anyone? > Eligible: Session > > 40 June Tabor – No Man's Land > Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) > Eligible: Session > > 41 The Damned – Neat Neat Neat > Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are > identical (2.46). Anyone? > Eligible: Session > > 42 Ry Cooder – The Dark End of the Street > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! > > 43 Suburban Studs – Questions > Had to be single (2.57) > > 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators – Feel Like Making Love > Going for the single > Eligible: B side `Version' > 12" was this released in '77 though? > > 45 Dave Edmunds – I Knew the Bride > Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? > Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile > > 46 The Jam – Away from the Numbers > Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) > > 47 Wreckless Eric – (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World > Probably played single > Eligible: Session > > 48 Roy Buchanan – Green Onions > Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? > > 49 Generation X – Wild Dub (Version) > Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on > eligibility of A side? > > 50 Snatch – I.R.T. > B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side (think > it's the same version – can anyone confirm?) > > 51 The Sex Pistols – Pretty Vacant > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers – John Willie's Ferret > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > > 53 Peter Tosh – Stepping Razor > Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? > > 54 The Clash – Capital Radio > Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One > version) > > 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions – Watching the Detectives > Had to be single (3.43) > > 56 The Motors – Bringing in the Morning Light > Had to be session > > 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods – Beginning of the End > Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) > Eligible: Session > > 58 Devo – Jocko Homo > Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) > > 59 The Buzzcocks – Whatever Happened To...? > Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) > > 60 Little Feat – Rocket in My Pocket > Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 > > 61 The Sex Pistols – God Save the Queen > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > Regards > Bill Spiby > From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 16:26:32 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:26:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022142632.BNUF21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Dear Steve, Some good points there. I did consider JP's 1983 statement but felt that on balance he wouldn't be including this year's chart as it wasn't poll based, but I see the logic of what you're saying alongside his playing best sessions in a separate show. I've obviously missed The Motors self-titled debut and the 12" of DTNA. Taking these into account and the songs in turn: 1. Dancing the Night Away is looking likely to have been the 12" (is this identical to LP version?) with single (3.13) and session as also rans 3. You Beat the Hell Out of Me wasn't on the 77 LP so I would still say the b-side and then the session 18 Emergency would be The Motors LP version and then the session 56 Still tempted for about half a second to go for session as it's called "Bringing in the Morning Light" and then LP version titled "Bring In the Morning Light", but weight of evidence and logic would seem to favour flipping that. With regard to Jah Woosh, I think it must indeed be a promo of JSD001 (even though that was released in 78) if you have identified it cropping up in another 77 show. However, there is no track called Freedom on Lick Him with the Dustbin. There is a track called 'Chant Freedom' on his 78 album Religious Dread. could it be a version of this? regards Bill > > From: "Steve" > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 02:33:13 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > Dear Bill > > With regards to session eligibility, JP categorically stated in the > 1983 FF that all tracks in the charts up to that date were played from > the records, and that Sophie And Peter Johnson's 'Television' was the > first session track to make the chart. On balance of probability, > since he did best of year session shows anyway, he would not have > played any session tracks for the chart. Thus 'Bring In The Morning > Light' (and maybe even 'You Beat The Hell Outta Me') must have been > from the first self-titled LP, as it was released in 1977. 'Dancing > The Night Away' could easily have been the 12 inch or LP version (both > longer than the 7 inch) as he spoke favourably about it in the > existing show of 1977-12-28, and played that version in the 1978 FF. > As for Jah Woosh, I had a conversation with Ken via email about this > when I posted some reggae tracks from this chart last year, and I am > of the opinion that it is an alternatively named version of 'Freedom', > from, I think, 'Lick Him With The Dustbin'. The version played in the > show of 1977-12-26 was on Jamaica Sound, JSD001. I checked the Jamaica > Sound website (which I cannot find now) at the time for this, and they > listed the release date as 1978. I cannot find that site now, so I > posted 'Fredom' anyway in lieu of anything better. > > Hope this helps! > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "spib2003" wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > Buckle up for the second wave of Festive 50 related queries. This > > time the subject is 1977's legendary `Forgotten Fifty' which > > helpfully consists of 61 tracks! The rules are as follows: I'm trying > > to identify the version that was played and thereafter any eligible > > version (i.e. released or broadcast up until that date). I'm > > excluding boots and TV appearances, although am open to persuasion on > > both (3am Eternal anyone?). Obviously 1977 is a funny one as there > > was only one `voter'. But working on the assumption that the great > > man could have heard (and therefore been influenced to choose by) any > > of the versions, I'm treating it the same as other years in terms of > > eligibility. > > > > So here goes: > > Does anyone know of any existing tapes of the broadcasts, or parts > > thereof? > > Has anyone access to any documentation/pasBs or even their own > > contemporary scribbles? > > Do any of our older listeners have any recollections of the versions > > played? > > But most of all, any insights or best guesses folks? > > > > Here's my list of `informed' guesses. Don't be scared of telling me > > I'm wrong - that's why I'm posting them here. > > > > John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) > > 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away > > Probably played single (3.13) > > Eligible: Session > > > > 2 Althea & Donna � Uptown Top Ranking > > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > > help with details about this one? > > > > 3 The Motors � You Beat the Hell Out of Me > > Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) > > Eligible: Session > > > > 4 The Rezillos � I Can't Stand My Baby > > Had to be the single (2.35) > > > > 5 John Cooper Clarke � Suspended Sentence > > Had to be the single > > > > 6 Desperate Bicycles � Smokescreen > > Had to be the single (2.03) > > > > 7 Merlene Webber � Right Track > > Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a > > promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? > > > > 8 Neil Young � Like a Hurricane > > Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP (8.14). > > This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. > > Eligible: Single (5.24) > > > > 9 The Clash � Complete Control > > Had to be single (3.10) > > > > 10 Frankie Miller � Be Good to Yourself > > I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) > > Eligible: Session > > > > 11 The Sex Pistols � Holidays in the Sun > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > 12 The Lurkers � Shadow > > Had to be single > > > > 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor � Truly > > These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one was > > originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. > > It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played although > > technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the > > Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco > > Mix released? > > > > 14 Pink Floyd � Pigs > > Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from > > Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 > > (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you accept > > those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 track > > version) (3.26) > > > > 15 Johnny Moped � Incendiary Device > > Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) > > > > 16 Some Chicken � New Religion > > Had to be Single (2.17) > > > > 17 Culture � See Them Come > > Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is > > the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other > > contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can > > anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? > > > > 18 The Motors � Emergency > > Had to be session > > > > 19 The Yobs � The Worm Song > > Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are actually The > > Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) > > > > 20 The Boys � Box Number > > Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box > > Number 939 > > Eligible: Session > > > > 21 The Stranglers � London Lady > > Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus > > Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? > > > > 22 Sham 69 � I Don't Wanna > > Had to be single (1.46) > > > > 23 The Ramones � Pinhead > > Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP > > (2.42) version. Anyone? > > > > 24 Jah Woosh � Freedom Connection > > Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't available at > > all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got > > any further info on this one? > > > > 25 Status Quo � Can't Give You More > > Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) > > > > 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer � Blue Wind > > Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group > > Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it case > > of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take > > as early? > > > > 27 The Clash � White Riot > > I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single (2.01) > > but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly > > helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. > > > > 28 Iggy Pop � Success > > I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life single > > B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? > > > > 29 Generation X � Your Generation > > Going for the single (3.11) > > Eligible: Session > > > > 30 King Short Shirt � Nobody Go Run Me > > Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? > > > > 31 The Lurkers � Love Story > > Had to be B side of Shadow single > > > > 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers � Waiting in Vain > > Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? > > > > 33 Dr Feelgood � Paradise > > Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) > > > > 34 Five Hand Reel � Cruel Brother > > Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got to be > > For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release solo > > version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, > > so arguably this is eligible > > > > 35 The Saints � I'm Stranded > > Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same > > (3.25). Anyone? > > > > 36 David Bowie � "Heroes" > > Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP > > version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown > > Eligible: Single edit (3.32) > > French language single edit "Heros" > > German language single edit "Helden" > > English/French hybrid full length version > > English/German hybrid full length version > > Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? > > > > 37 The Users � Sick on You > > Had to be single (3.20) > > > > 38 X Ray Spex � Oh Bondage Up Yours! > > Going for the single (2.45) > > Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 > > > > 39 The Boomtown Rats � Lookin' After Number 1 > > Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP version is > > the same (3.06). Anyone? > > Eligible: Session > > > > 40 June Tabor � No Man's Land > > Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) > > Eligible: Session > > > > 41 The Damned � Neat Neat Neat > > Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are > > identical (2.46). Anyone? > > Eligible: Session > > > > 42 Ry Cooder � The Dark End of the Street > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! > > > > 43 Suburban Studs � Questions > > Had to be single (2.57) > > > > 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators � Feel Like Making Love > > Going for the single > > Eligible: B side `Version' > > 12" was this released in '77 though? > > > > 45 Dave Edmunds � I Knew the Bride > > Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? > > Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile > > > > 46 The Jam � Away from the Numbers > > Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) > > > > 47 Wreckless Eric � (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World > > Probably played single > > Eligible: Session > > > > 48 Roy Buchanan � Green Onions > > Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? > > > > 49 Generation X � Wild Dub (Version) > > Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on > > eligibility of A side? > > > > 50 Snatch � I.R.T. > > B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side (think > > it's the same version � can anyone confirm?) > > > > 51 The Sex Pistols � Pretty Vacant > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers � John Willie's Ferret > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > > > > 53 Peter Tosh � Stepping Razor > > Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? > > > > 54 The Clash � Capital Radio > > Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One > > version) > > > > 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions � Watching the Detectives > > Had to be single (3.43) > > > > 56 The Motors � Bringing in the Morning Light > > Had to be session > > > > 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods � Beginning of the End > > Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) > > Eligible: Session > > > > 58 Devo � Jocko Homo > > Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) > > > > 59 The Buzzcocks � Whatever Happened To...? > > Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) > > > > 60 Little Feat � Rocket in My Pocket > > Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 > > > > 61 The Sex Pistols � God Save the Queen > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > > Regards > > Bill Spiby > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Wed Oct 22 17:01:45 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:01:45 EDT Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: > <<2 Althea & Donna – Uptown Top Ranking > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > help with details about this one?>> > Althea & Donna's "Uptown Top Ranking" was one of those very rare records that only became a megahit due to John Peel's repeated playing of it (like "O Superman") - I remember him bitterly telling the story on-air of how he later heard A & D being interviewed on their first UK visit - saying something like "We'd like to thank the Radio One DJ who has been playing our record and made it a hit - thank you... Kid Jenson" I reckon he either had a pre-release - or more likely he had an original Jamaican release (was the "Dub Vendor" shop in Soho there in those days - he often said that's where he bought a lot of his reggae imports) - indeed it may only have got a UK release off the back of his playing the record - not many Jamaican 7"s by unknown artists got a UK release in those days! re The Motors - I think he was a mate of one of the band - I certainly remember him playing the long version of Dancing The Night Away in a F50 show - although as Steve said it also made the chart the following year & I would have been listening to both (and indeed recording both - shame I was too skint in those days to keep the tapes!) Cheers! Rocker From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Oct 22 17:03:15 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:03:15 -0000 Subject: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: <20081022142632.BNUF21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: Dear Bill Just to clarify, the show I referred to was one of those very Festive 61 shows, as Ken told me. And I stand corrected about 'You Beat The Hell Outta Me'...it was a bonus track on the CD reissue, so yes, the 7 inch looks like the likely candidate. However, 'Emergency' was on the LP, so that makes it eligible and more likely than the session, do you agree? Finally, if my memory serves me right, 'Dancing The Night Away' was the same version on the LP and the 12 inch. Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Dear Steve, > > Some good points there. > I did consider JP's 1983 statement but felt that on balance he wouldn't be including this year's chart as it wasn't poll based, but I see the logic of what you're saying alongside his playing best sessions in a separate show. > I've obviously missed The Motors self-titled debut and the 12" of DTNA. Taking these into account and the songs in turn: > 1. Dancing the Night Away is looking likely to have been the 12" (is this identical to LP version?) with single (3.13) and session as also rans > 3. You Beat the Hell Out of Me wasn't on the 77 LP so I would still say the b-side and then the session > 18 Emergency would be The Motors LP version and then the session > 56 Still tempted for about half a second to go for session as it's called "Bringing in the Morning Light" and then LP version titled "Bring In the Morning Light", but weight of evidence and logic would seem to favour flipping that. > > With regard to Jah Woosh, I think it must indeed be a promo of JSD001 (even though that was released in 78) if you have identified it cropping up in another 77 show. However, there is no track called Freedom on Lick Him with the Dustbin. There is a track called 'Chant Freedom' on his 78 album Religious Dread. could it be a version of this? > > regards > Bill > > > > From: "Steve" > > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 02:33:13 BST > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > > > Dear Bill > > > > With regards to session eligibility, JP categorically stated in the > > 1983 FF that all tracks in the charts up to that date were played from > > the records, and that Sophie And Peter Johnson's 'Television' was the > > first session track to make the chart. On balance of probability, > > since he did best of year session shows anyway, he would not have > > played any session tracks for the chart. Thus 'Bring In The Morning > > Light' (and maybe even 'You Beat The Hell Outta Me') must have been > > from the first self-titled LP, as it was released in 1977. 'Dancing > > The Night Away' could easily have been the 12 inch or LP version (both > > longer than the 7 inch) as he spoke favourably about it in the > > existing show of 1977-12-28, and played that version in the 1978 FF. > > As for Jah Woosh, I had a conversation with Ken via email about this > > when I posted some reggae tracks from this chart last year, and I am > > of the opinion that it is an alternatively named version of 'Freedom', > > from, I think, 'Lick Him With The Dustbin'. The version played in the > > show of 1977-12-26 was on Jamaica Sound, JSD001. I checked the Jamaica > > Sound website (which I cannot find now) at the time for this, and they > > listed the release date as 1978. I cannot find that site now, so I > > posted 'Fredom' anyway in lieu of anything better. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "spib2003" wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > Buckle up for the second wave of Festive 50 related queries. This > > > time the subject is 1977's legendary `Forgotten Fifty' which > > > helpfully consists of 61 tracks! The rules are as follows: I'm trying > > > to identify the version that was played and thereafter any eligible > > > version (i.e. released or broadcast up until that date). I'm > > > excluding boots and TV appearances, although am open to persuasion on > > > both (3am Eternal anyone?). Obviously 1977 is a funny one as there > > > was only one `voter'. But working on the assumption that the great > > > man could have heard (and therefore been influenced to choose by) any > > > of the versions, I'm treating it the same as other years in terms of > > > eligibility. > > > > > > So here goes: > > > Does anyone know of any existing tapes of the broadcasts, or parts > > > thereof? > > > Has anyone access to any documentation/pasBs or even their own > > > contemporary scribbles? > > > Do any of our older listeners have any recollections of the versions > > > played? > > > But most of all, any insights or best guesses folks? > > > > > > Here's my list of `informed' guesses. Don't be scared of telling me > > > I'm wrong - that's why I'm posting them here. > > > > > > John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) > > > 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away > > > Probably played single (3.13) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 2 Althea & Donna – Uptown Top Ranking > > > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > > > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > > > help with details about this one? > > > > > > 3 The Motors – You Beat the Hell Out of Me > > > Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 4 The Rezillos – I Can't Stand My Baby > > > Had to be the single (2.35) > > > > > > 5 John Cooper Clarke – Suspended Sentence > > > Had to be the single > > > > > > 6 Desperate Bicycles – Smokescreen > > > Had to be the single (2.03) > > > > > > 7 Merlene Webber – Right Track > > > Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a > > > promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? > > > > > > 8 Neil Young – Like a Hurricane > > > Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP (8.14). > > > This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. > > > Eligible: Single (5.24) > > > > > > 9 The Clash – Complete Control > > > Had to be single (3.10) > > > > > > 10 Frankie Miller – Be Good to Yourself > > > I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 11 The Sex Pistols – Holidays in the Sun > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > 12 The Lurkers – Shadow > > > Had to be single > > > > > > 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor – Truly > > > These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one was > > > originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. > > > It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played although > > > technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the > > > Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco > > > Mix released? > > > > > > 14 Pink Floyd – Pigs > > > Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from > > > Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 > > > (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you accept > > > those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 track > > > version) (3.26) > > > > > > 15 Johnny Moped – Incendiary Device > > > Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) > > > > > > 16 Some Chicken – New Religion > > > Had to be Single (2.17) > > > > > > 17 Culture – See Them Come > > > Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is > > > the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other > > > contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can > > > anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? > > > > > > 18 The Motors – Emergency > > > Had to be session > > > > > > 19 The Yobs – The Worm Song > > > Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are actually The > > > Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) > > > > > > 20 The Boys – Box Number > > > Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box > > > Number 939 > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 21 The Stranglers – London Lady > > > Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus > > > Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? > > > > > > 22 Sham 69 – I Don't Wanna > > > Had to be single (1.46) > > > > > > 23 The Ramones – Pinhead > > > Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP > > > (2.42) version. Anyone? > > > > > > 24 Jah Woosh – Freedom Connection > > > Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't available at > > > all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got > > > any further info on this one? > > > > > > 25 Status Quo – Can't Give You More > > > Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) > > > > > > 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer – Blue Wind > > > Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group > > > Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it case > > > of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take > > > as early? > > > > > > 27 The Clash – White Riot > > > I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single (2.01) > > > but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly > > > helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. > > > > > > 28 Iggy Pop – Success > > > I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life single > > > B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? > > > > > > 29 Generation X – Your Generation > > > Going for the single (3.11) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 30 King Short Shirt – Nobody Go Run Me > > > Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? > > > > > > 31 The Lurkers – Love Story > > > Had to be B side of Shadow single > > > > > > 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Waiting in Vain > > > Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? > > > > > > 33 Dr Feelgood – Paradise > > > Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) > > > > > > 34 Five Hand Reel – Cruel Brother > > > Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got to be > > > For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release solo > > > version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, > > > so arguably this is eligible > > > > > > 35 The Saints – I'm Stranded > > > Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same > > > (3.25). Anyone? > > > > > > 36 David Bowie – "Heroes" > > > Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP > > > version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown > > > Eligible: Single edit (3.32) > > > French language single edit "Heros" > > > German language single edit "Helden" > > > English/French hybrid full length version > > > English/German hybrid full length version > > > Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? > > > > > > 37 The Users – Sick on You > > > Had to be single (3.20) > > > > > > 38 X Ray Spex – Oh Bondage Up Yours! > > > Going for the single (2.45) > > > Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 > > > > > > 39 The Boomtown Rats – Lookin' After Number 1 > > > Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP version is > > > the same (3.06). Anyone? > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 40 June Tabor – No Man's Land > > > Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 41 The Damned – Neat Neat Neat > > > Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are > > > identical (2.46). Anyone? > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 42 Ry Cooder – The Dark End of the Street > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! > > > > > > 43 Suburban Studs – Questions > > > Had to be single (2.57) > > > > > > 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators – Feel Like Making Love > > > Going for the single > > > Eligible: B side `Version' > > > 12" was this released in '77 though? > > > > > > 45 Dave Edmunds – I Knew the Bride > > > Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? > > > Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile > > > > > > 46 The Jam – Away from the Numbers > > > Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) > > > > > > 47 Wreckless Eric – (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World > > > Probably played single > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 48 Roy Buchanan – Green Onions > > > Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? > > > > > > 49 Generation X – Wild Dub (Version) > > > Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on > > > eligibility of A side? > > > > > > 50 Snatch – I.R.T. > > > B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side (think > > > it's the same version – can anyone confirm?) > > > > > > 51 The Sex Pistols – Pretty Vacant > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) > > > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers – John Willie's Ferret > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > > > > > > 53 Peter Tosh – Stepping Razor > > > Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? > > > > > > 54 The Clash – Capital Radio > > > Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One > > > version) > > > > > > 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions – Watching the Detectives > > > Had to be single (3.43) > > > > > > 56 The Motors – Bringing in the Morning Light > > > Had to be session > > > > > > 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods – Beginning of the End > > > Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 58 Devo – Jocko Homo > > > Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) > > > > > > 59 The Buzzcocks – Whatever Happened To...? > > > Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) > > > > > > 60 Little Feat – Rocket in My Pocket > > > Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 > > > > > > 61 The Sex Pistols – God Save the Queen > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > > > Regards > > > Bill Spiby > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 17:13:20 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:13:20 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022151320.YCNL19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Hi Rocker, It seems likely that Althea & Donna was a Jamaican release. Presumably this would be the same version. I've not seen any evidence of alternative ones. The version of Dancing the Night Away played during the 78 chart ran for 6.41, which is more weight behind the argument that he would have opted for this in 77. Didn't know he was a mate with one of the band, but it would explain his promotion of them. I must confess that they've never managed to win me over. regards Bill > > From: rockerq@... > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 04:01:45 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > > <<2 Althea & Donna ? Uptown Top Ranking > > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > > help with details about this one?>> > > > Althea & Donna's "Uptown Top Ranking" was one of those very rare records that > only became a megahit due to John Peel's repeated playing of it (like "O > Superman") - I remember him bitterly telling the story on-air of how he later > heard A & D being interviewed on their first UK visit - saying something like > "We'd like to thank the Radio One DJ who has been playing our record and made it a > hit - thank you... Kid Jenson" > > I reckon he either had a pre-release - or more likely he had an original > Jamaican release (was the "Dub Vendor" shop in Soho there in those days - he often > said that's where he bought a lot of his reggae imports) - indeed it may only > have got a UK release off the back of his playing the record - not many > Jamaican 7"s by unknown artists got a UK release in those days! > > re The Motors - I think he was a mate of one of the band - I certainly > remember him playing the long version of Dancing The Night Away in a F50 show - > although as Steve said it also made the chart the following year & I would have > been listening to both (and indeed recording both - shame I was too skint in > those days to keep the tapes!) > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From jimmystep@... Wed Oct 22 17:15:36 2008 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <499508.18335.qm@...> The Jamaican release was available on import for a good long while in 77 before Virgin picked it up. I think I got my copy in Listen Records on Renfield Street and had to take it back to be replaced as the spindle hole was off centre. I'll see if I can find it to get some details when I get back from work. It would never have gotten a release without Peel's playing of it, that's for sure. Cheers...Jimmy  PS went to see Seasick Steve last night, a fun time was had by all :-) Much more enjoyable than the Easy Star All Stars on Monday night. I reckon he either had a pre-release - or more likely he had an original Jamaican release (was the "Dub Vendor" shop in Soho there in those days - he often said that's where he bought a lot of his reggae imports) - indeed it may only have got a UK release off the back of his playing the record - not many Jamaican 7"s by unknown artists got a UK release in those days! _ From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 17:17:22 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:17:22 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022151722.CILK21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Hi Steve, Yeah I didn't realise the significance of the date 26/12 (bound to be the actual broadcast). I would agree about Emergency, that must be the LP version. Am now working on the assumption that the LP Dancing the Night Away and 12" is one and the same. Just timed the 78 chart playing of track at 6.41. regards Bill > > From: "Steve" > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 04:03:15 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > Dear Bill > > Just to clarify, the show I referred to was one of those very Festive > 61 shows, as Ken told me. And I stand corrected about 'You Beat The > Hell Outta Me'...it was a bonus track on the CD reissue, so yes, the 7 > inch looks like the likely candidate. However, 'Emergency' was on the > LP, so that makes it eligible and more likely than the session, do you > agree? Finally, if my memory serves me right, 'Dancing The Night Away' > was the same version on the LP and the 12 inch. > > Best wishes > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > > Dear Steve, > > > > Some good points there. > > I did consider JP's 1983 statement but felt that on balance he > wouldn't be including this year's chart as it wasn't poll based, but I > see the logic of what you're saying alongside his playing best > sessions in a separate show. > > I've obviously missed The Motors self-titled debut and the 12" of > DTNA. Taking these into account and the songs in turn: > > 1. Dancing the Night Away is looking likely to have been the 12" (is > this identical to LP version?) with single (3.13) and session as also rans > > 3. You Beat the Hell Out of Me wasn't on the 77 LP so I would still > say the b-side and then the session > > 18 Emergency would be The Motors LP version and then the session > > 56 Still tempted for about half a second to go for session as it's > called "Bringing in the Morning Light" and then LP version titled > "Bring In the Morning Light", but weight of evidence and logic would > seem to favour flipping that. > > > > With regard to Jah Woosh, I think it must indeed be a promo of > JSD001 (even though that was released in 78) if you have identified it > cropping up in another 77 show. However, there is no track called > Freedom on Lick Him with the Dustbin. There is a track called 'Chant > Freedom' on his 78 album Religious Dread. could it be a version of this? > > > > regards > > Bill > > > > > > From: "Steve" > > > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 02:33:13 BST > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very > slight exaggeration)) > > > > > > Dear Bill > > > > > > With regards to session eligibility, JP categorically stated in the > > > 1983 FF that all tracks in the charts up to that date were played from > > > the records, and that Sophie And Peter Johnson's 'Television' was the > > > first session track to make the chart. On balance of probability, > > > since he did best of year session shows anyway, he would not have > > > played any session tracks for the chart. Thus 'Bring In The Morning > > > Light' (and maybe even 'You Beat The Hell Outta Me') must have been > > > from the first self-titled LP, as it was released in 1977. 'Dancing > > > The Night Away' could easily have been the 12 inch or LP version (both > > > longer than the 7 inch) as he spoke favourably about it in the > > > existing show of 1977-12-28, and played that version in the 1978 FF. > > > As for Jah Woosh, I had a conversation with Ken via email about this > > > when I posted some reggae tracks from this chart last year, and I am > > > of the opinion that it is an alternatively named version of 'Freedom', > > > from, I think, 'Lick Him With The Dustbin'. The version played in the > > > show of 1977-12-26 was on Jamaica Sound, JSD001. I checked the Jamaica > > > Sound website (which I cannot find now) at the time for this, and they > > > listed the release date as 1978. I cannot find that site now, so I > > > posted 'Fredom' anyway in lieu of anything better. > > > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Steve [Teenage Kicks] > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "spib2003" wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Buckle up for the second wave of Festive 50 related queries. This > > > > time the subject is 1977's legendary `Forgotten Fifty' which > > > > helpfully consists of 61 tracks! The rules are as follows: I'm > trying > > > > to identify the version that was played and thereafter any eligible > > > > version (i.e. released or broadcast up until that date). I'm > > > > excluding boots and TV appearances, although am open to > persuasion on > > > > both (3am Eternal anyone?). Obviously 1977 is a funny one as there > > > > was only one `voter'. But working on the assumption that the great > > > > man could have heard (and therefore been influenced to choose > by) any > > > > of the versions, I'm treating it the same as other years in > terms of > > > > eligibility. > > > > > > > > So here goes: > > > > Does anyone know of any existing tapes of the broadcasts, or parts > > > > thereof? > > > > Has anyone access to any documentation/pasBs or even their own > > > > contemporary scribbles? > > > > Do any of our older listeners have any recollections of the > versions > > > > played? > > > > But most of all, any insights or best guesses folks? > > > > > > > > Here's my list of `informed' guesses. Don't be scared of telling me > > > > I'm wrong - that's why I'm posting them here. > > > > > > > > John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) > > > > 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away > > > > Probably played single (3.13) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 2 Althea & Donna � Uptown Top Ranking > > > > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > > > > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > > > > help with details about this one? > > > > > > > > 3 The Motors � You Beat the Hell Out of Me > > > > Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 4 The Rezillos � I Can't Stand My Baby > > > > Had to be the single (2.35) > > > > > > > > 5 John Cooper Clarke � Suspended Sentence > > > > Had to be the single > > > > > > > > 6 Desperate Bicycles � Smokescreen > > > > Had to be the single (2.03) > > > > > > > > 7 Merlene Webber � Right Track > > > > Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a > > > > promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? > > > > > > > > 8 Neil Young � Like a Hurricane > > > > Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP > (8.14). > > > > This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. > > > > Eligible: Single (5.24) > > > > > > > > 9 The Clash � Complete Control > > > > Had to be single (3.10) > > > > > > > > 10 Frankie Miller � Be Good to Yourself > > > > I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 11 The Sex Pistols � Holidays in the Sun > > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > > > 12 The Lurkers � Shadow > > > > Had to be single > > > > > > > > 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor � Truly > > > > These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one > was > > > > originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. > > > > It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played > although > > > > technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the > > > > Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco > > > > Mix released? > > > > > > > > 14 Pink Floyd � Pigs > > > > Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from > > > > Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 > > > > (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you > accept > > > > those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 > track > > > > version) (3.26) > > > > > > > > 15 Johnny Moped � Incendiary Device > > > > Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) > > > > > > > > 16 Some Chicken � New Religion > > > > Had to be Single (2.17) > > > > > > > > 17 Culture � See Them Come > > > > Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is > > > > the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other > > > > contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can > > > > anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? > > > > > > > > 18 The Motors � Emergency > > > > Had to be session > > > > > > > > 19 The Yobs � The Worm Song > > > > Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are > actually The > > > > Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) > > > > > > > > 20 The Boys � Box Number > > > > Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box > > > > Number 939 > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 21 The Stranglers � London Lady > > > > Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus > > > > Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? > > > > > > > > 22 Sham 69 � I Don't Wanna > > > > Had to be single (1.46) > > > > > > > > 23 The Ramones � Pinhead > > > > Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP > > > > (2.42) version. Anyone? > > > > > > > > 24 Jah Woosh � Freedom Connection > > > > Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't > available at > > > > all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got > > > > any further info on this one? > > > > > > > > 25 Status Quo � Can't Give You More > > > > Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) > > > > > > > > 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer � Blue Wind > > > > Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer > Group > > > > Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it > case > > > > of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take > > > > as early? > > > > > > > > 27 The Clash � White Riot > > > > I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single > (2.01) > > > > but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly > > > > helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. > > > > > > > > 28 Iggy Pop � Success > > > > I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life > single > > > > B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? > > > > > > > > 29 Generation X � Your Generation > > > > Going for the single (3.11) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 30 King Short Shirt � Nobody Go Run Me > > > > Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? > > > > > > > > 31 The Lurkers � Love Story > > > > Had to be B side of Shadow single > > > > > > > > 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers � Waiting in Vain > > > > Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? > > > > > > > > 33 Dr Feelgood � Paradise > > > > Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) > > > > > > > > 34 Five Hand Reel � Cruel Brother > > > > Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got > to be > > > > For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release > solo > > > > version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, > > > > so arguably this is eligible > > > > > > > > 35 The Saints � I'm Stranded > > > > Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same > > > > (3.25). Anyone? > > > > > > > > 36 David Bowie � "Heroes" > > > > Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP > > > > version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown > > > > Eligible: Single edit (3.32) > > > > French language single edit "Heros" > > > > German language single edit "Helden" > > > > English/French hybrid full length version > > > > English/German hybrid full length version > > > > Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? > > > > > > > > 37 The Users � Sick on You > > > > Had to be single (3.20) > > > > > > > > 38 X Ray Spex � Oh Bondage Up Yours! > > > > Going for the single (2.45) > > > > Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 > > > > > > > > 39 The Boomtown Rats � Lookin' After Number 1 > > > > Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP > version is > > > > the same (3.06). Anyone? > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 40 June Tabor � No Man's Land > > > > Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 41 The Damned � Neat Neat Neat > > > > Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are > > > > identical (2.46). Anyone? > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 42 Ry Cooder � The Dark End of the Street > > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! > > > > > > > > 43 Suburban Studs � Questions > > > > Had to be single (2.57) > > > > > > > > 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators � Feel Like Making Love > > > > Going for the single > > > > Eligible: B side `Version' > > > > 12" was this released in '77 though? > > > > > > > > 45 Dave Edmunds � I Knew the Bride > > > > Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? > > > > Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile > > > > > > > > 46 The Jam � Away from the Numbers > > > > Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) > > > > > > > > 47 Wreckless Eric � (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World > > > > Probably played single > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 48 Roy Buchanan � Green Onions > > > > Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? > > > > > > > > 49 Generation X � Wild Dub (Version) > > > > Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on > > > > eligibility of A side? > > > > > > > > 50 Snatch � I.R.T. > > > > B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side > (think > > > > it's the same version � can anyone confirm?) > > > > > > > > 51 The Sex Pistols � Pretty Vacant > > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) > > > > > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers � John Willie's Ferret > > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > > > > > > > > 53 Peter Tosh � Stepping Razor > > > > Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? > > > > > > > > 54 The Clash � Capital Radio > > > > Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One > > > > version) > > > > > > > > 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions � Watching the Detectives > > > > Had to be single (3.43) > > > > > > > > 56 The Motors � Bringing in the Morning Light > > > > Had to be session > > > > > > > > 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods � Beginning of the End > > > > Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 58 Devo � Jocko Homo > > > > Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) > > > > > > > > 59 The Buzzcocks � Whatever Happened To...? > > > > Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) > > > > > > > > 60 Little Feat � Rocket in My Pocket > > > > Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 > > > > > > > > 61 The Sex Pistols � God Save the Queen > > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > > > > Regards > > > > Bill Spiby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From tb666xx@... Wed Oct 22 17:53:18 2008 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session Message-ID: <13976.92828.qm@...> 4 skins were not a fascist band.. Totally diff from skrewdriver. They would be classed as an oi band the same as the Cockney rejects. Some of the audience were a different matter! On Oct 22, 2008, at 4:11 AM, "Mark Whitby" wrote: That's true - in fact, to be honest, they weren't even really that "punk", to my ears anyway. I don't know whether the 4-Skins ever went through a similar pre-fascist phase though. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: rockerq@... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session <> To be fair, the Skrewdriver session was recorded when they were just another punk band, a couple of years before they showed any fascist tendencies. Rocker From martinw@... Wed Oct 22 17:59:49 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:59:49 +0100 Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: <13976.92828.qm@...> References: <13976.92828.qm@...> Message-ID: At 16:53 22/10/2008, you wrote: >4 skins were not a fascist band.. Totally diff from skrewdriver. >They would be classed as an oi band the same as the Cockney rejects. >Some of the audience were a different matter! One of them joined Skrewdriver From paul@... Wed Oct 22 13:03:54 2008 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:03:54 +0100 Subject: How Does it Feel - the New Order Story (repeat) Message-ID: 6 Music Plays it Again Tuesday 28th October 2008 00:00 to 00:30 How Does it Feel - the New Order Story. Part 1. In a programme first broadcast in 1993, John Peel tells the story of New Order. Featuring contributions from Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, Gillian Gilbert, Anthony Wilson and Rob Gretton. ++++++++++ I guess that part 2 will be a week later. Also - for those of you that also listen to new music ... have you voted in the Festive 50 yet? Don't hang around - get it done now. http://www.dandelionradio.com/festive50.htm Paul Webster Backroom at Dandelion Radio From tb666xx@... Wed Oct 22 18:41:31 2008 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <800679.46166.qm@...> ahh - don't want to do too much back and forth on this - while that may be so (Paul Swain did later join Skrewdriver... he was only in the 4 skins for a year) - they were still not a 'fascist band' like no remorse, skrewdriver etc - they had more in common with the rejects, cock sparrer, menace etc.. and took the all too easy 'apolitical' stance. Hoxton Tom was a suedehead who was very involved in the mod revival An ex member of oi polloi went on to play in skrewdriver too and they are renouned as being possibly the most political and anti fascist band in Europe. --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Martin Wheatley wrote: > From: Martin Wheatley > Subject: Re: [peel] Did the 4 Skins ever record a session > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 4:59 PM > At 16:53 22/10/2008, you wrote: > > >4 skins were not a fascist band.. Totally diff from > skrewdriver. > >They would be classed as an oi band the same as the > Cockney rejects. > >Some of the audience were a different matter! > > One of them joined Skrewdriver > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From thebarguest@... Wed Oct 22 18:49:12 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:49:12 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Weren't they from the same area as the Gonads and the Purple Helmets (but a much less important band) !! Regards, Dick le Grande (age 14) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 16:53 22/10/2008, you wrote: > > >4 skins were not a fascist band.. Totally diff from skrewdriver. > >They would be classed as an oi band the same as the Cockney rejects. > >Some of the audience were a different matter! > > One of them joined Skrewdriver > From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Oct 22 19:14:21 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:14:21 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Martin is correct. Paul Swain joined them for the Blood And Honour LP (see here for more details: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?full=1&bandid=6618). All this debate about whether the 4 Skins recorded a Peel session is surely due to the fact that Peel Torrent 3 has what purports to be their session, with this tracklisting: 1. Wonderful World 2. Jealousy 3. One Law For Them 4. Evil 5. Yesterday's Heroes. These are the first five tracks from 'The Secret Life Of The 4-Skins' (which you can download from http://rocknrollsavage.blogspot.com/2008/02/4-skins-secret-life-of-4-skins.html, if that's your 'bag'), the artwork for which accompanies the 'music' in the folder. It is claimed to be a long-lost 1981 radio session, but for which DJ's programme remains unclear. One thing is certain: none of the sites I have seen featuring this 2001 compilation claim that it was for Peel. And remember that the Torrents, groundbreaking though they were (and we will forever be grateful to Dee Dee for uploading them), contain a lot of errors (as we all know, Radiohead and Soft Cell never did sessions for JP, but they are here nevertheless). End of topic? Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 16:53 22/10/2008, you wrote: > > >4 skins were not a fascist band.. Totally diff from skrewdriver. > >They would be classed as an oi band the same as the Cockney rejects. > >Some of the audience were a different matter! > > One of them joined Skrewdriver > From wewalkforonereason@... Wed Oct 22 19:28:33 2008 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:28:33 +0100 Subject: [peel] How Does it Feel - the New Order Story (repeat) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Part 2 is the same time a day later, not a week later. 2008/10/22 Paul Webster : > 6 Music Plays it Again > Tuesday 28th October 2008 00:00 to 00:30 > > How Does it Feel - the New Order Story. Part 1. In a programme first > broadcast in 1993, John Peel tells the story of New Order. Featuring > contributions from Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, Gillian > Gilbert, Anthony Wilson and Rob Gretton. > > ++++++++++ > I guess that part 2 will be a week later. From dunelm@... Wed Oct 22 20:24:48 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:24:48 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Er, has anyone given much thought to the views expressed by Mark E Smith over the years? His belief system makes Skrewdriver look like Chumbawamba. (Yes, I know Smith's role in life is to challenge the liberal orthodoxy, to play devil's advocate and to generally get on everyone's tits. You could say the same of Jim Davidson or David Irving). From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 20:49:36 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (spib2003) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:49:36 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can we stop with this thread now because if we're going to ideologically approve all the Peel bands then we might as well close the group down and set up a B*Witched fan site. I think Bill Hicks summed it up best when he said: "They say rock 'n' roll is the devil's music. Well, let's say that it is; I've got news for you. Let's say that rock'n'roll is the devil's music and we know it for a fact to be absolutely, unequivocally true. Boy, at least he fucking jams!" --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > Er, has anyone given much thought to the views expressed by Mark E > Smith over the years? His belief system makes Skrewdriver look like > Chumbawamba. > > (Yes, I know Smith's role in life is to challenge the liberal > orthodoxy, to play devil's advocate and to generally get on everyone's > tits. You could say the same of Jim Davidson or David Irving). > From tb666xx@... Wed Oct 22 20:57:56 2008 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <624621.96143.qm@...> agreed.....case closed...next... --- On Wed, 10/22/08, spib2003 wrote: > From: spib2003 > Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 7:49 PM > Can we stop with this thread now because if we're going > to > ideologically approve all the Peel bands then we might as > well close > the group down and set up a B*Witched fan site. I think > Bill Hicks > summed it up best when he said: > > "They say rock 'n' roll is the devil's > music. Well, let's say that it > is; I've got news for you. Let's say that > rock'n'roll is the devil's > music and we know it for a fact to be absolutely, > unequivocally true. > Boy, at least he fucking jams!" > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" > wrote: > > > > Er, has anyone given much thought to the views > expressed by Mark E > > Smith over the years? His belief system makes > Skrewdriver look like > > Chumbawamba. > > > > (Yes, I know Smith's role in life is to challenge > the liberal > > orthodoxy, to play devil's advocate and to > generally get on > everyone's > > tits. You could say the same of Jim Davidson or David > Irving). > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From dunelm@... Wed Oct 22 20:59:58 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:59:58 -0000 Subject: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peel always played the 12" version of Dancing The Night Away, which has a lengthy guitar intro before the riff comes in and is around six and a half minutes in total. I don't recall him ever playing the 7" version. Althea & Donna's Uptown Top Ranking would have been the 7" single produced by Joe Gibbs on Lightning Records - unusual for a reggae single in that - as far as I know - there was no 12" release. And the record that charted the following year may have been a rerecorded version. From tb666xx@... Wed Oct 22 21:06:32 2008 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <724277.79941.qm@...> the uptown top ranking I have is from 77 and is on lightening... also around the same time was a misspelled Prince Fari 'heavy manners' 7"... --- On Wed, 10/22/08, dunelm61 wrote: > From: dunelm61 > Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 7:59 PM > Peel always played the 12" version of Dancing The Night > Away, which has > a lengthy guitar intro before the riff comes in and is > around six and a > half minutes in total. I don't recall him ever playing > the 7" version. > > Althea & Donna's Uptown Top Ranking would have been > the 7" single > produced by Joe Gibbs on Lightning Records - unusual for a > reggae > single in that - as far as I know - there was no 12" > release. And the > record that charted the following year may have been a > rerecorded > version. > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From martinw@... Wed Oct 22 21:11:21 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:11:21 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 19:49 22/10/2008, you wrote: >Can we stop with this thread now because if we're going to >ideologically approve all the Peel bands then we might as well close >the group down and set up a B*Witched fan site. I think Bill Hicks >summed it up best when he said: > >"They say rock 'n' roll is the devil's music. Well, let's say that it >is; I've got news for you. Let's say that rock'n'roll is the devil's >music and we know it for a fact to be absolutely, unequivocally true. >Boy, at least he fucking jams!" But we are not talking about what we approve ideologically but what Peel did which is surely as on-topic as you can get All I was saying was that after the initial burst of Oi Peel stayed away from the extremes of it probably because of the political tinge given to it largely by the writings of Gary Bushell Peel was never consistent in these views either for himself or anyone else and it's always easy to find exceptions (Mark E Smith as has been pointed out) but there were general tendencies and I don't think it is wrong if any of us mention them From dr_mango2004@... Wed Oct 22 21:40:07 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 29 November 1978 (new download: 400 box) Message-ID: <120669.94440.qm@...> Here's today's effort. This is Wednesday 29th November. Sessions come from the Wailing Cocks and a repeat of John Cooper Clarke's debut. The recording is the bulk of the second hour of the show, although the end is missing. Funny actually, with a name like Wailing Cocks I was expecting them to be an Oi! type punk band, but they turn out to be a fairly standard rock group. Quality wise, it's not as "whistely" as yesterday's upload, but there's some background interference. The recording of the show ends rather abruptly midway through a Captain Beefheart number. After that, the remainder of the tape is filled with some cheesy instrumental pop-funk muzak. File length: 55:11 (112 kbps mono mp3). File size: 44.2 MB Download: http://sharebee.com/a2c38596 Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/29_November_1978 Dr M. From rockerq@... Wed Oct 22 21:41:04 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:41:04 EDT Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: > <> > According to discogs.com, 7" came out in 1977 in Jamaica on the Joe Gibbs record label, backed with "Calico Suit" by Mighty Two <> No - is the same version. Cheers! Rocker From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 21:54:23 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:54:23 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022195423.GRMS21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Thanks chaps. I think that's fairly conclusive then that it would have been the 12" of Dancing the Night Away and the Jamaican release of Uptown Top Ranking (which is quite possibly different mix from UK hit version). Cheers Bill > > From: Tim Brooks > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 08:06:32 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > the uptown top ranking I have is from 77 and is on lightening... also around the same time was a misspelled Prince Fari 'heavy manners' 7"... > > > --- On Wed, 10/22/08, dunelm61 wrote: > > > From: dunelm61 > > Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 7:59 PM > > Peel always played the 12" version of Dancing The Night > > Away, which has > > a lengthy guitar intro before the riff comes in and is > > around six and a > > half minutes in total. I don't recall him ever playing > > the 7" version. > > > > Althea & Donna's Uptown Top Ranking would have been > > the 7" single > > produced by Joe Gibbs on Lightning Records - unusual for a > > reggae > > single in that - as far as I know - there was no 12" > > release. And the > > record that charted the following year may have been a > > rerecorded > > version. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 21:57:42 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:57:42 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session Message-ID: <20081022195742.GSSS21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> OK fair enough. Sorry. > > From: Martin Wheatley > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 08:11:21 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session > > At 19:49 22/10/2008, you wrote: > > >Can we stop with this thread now because if we're going to > >ideologically approve all the Peel bands then we might as well close > >the group down and set up a B*Witched fan site. I think Bill Hicks > >summed it up best when he said: > > > >"They say rock 'n' roll is the devil's music. Well, let's say that it > >is; I've got news for you. Let's say that rock'n'roll is the devil's > >music and we know it for a fact to be absolutely, unequivocally true. > >Boy, at least he fucking jams!" > > But we are not talking about what we approve ideologically but > what Peel did which is surely as on-topic as you can get > All I was saying was that after the initial burst of Oi Peel stayed > away from the extremes of it probably because of the political tinge > given to it largely by the writings of Gary Bushell > > Peel was never consistent in these views either for himself or anyone > else and it's always easy to find exceptions (Mark E Smith as has > been pointed out) but there were general tendencies and I don't think > it is wrong if any of us mention them > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 21:58:45 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:58:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022195845.FOIR22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Ah thanks Rocker, it's the same version. That's helpful. > > From: rockerq@... > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 08:41:04 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > > <> > > > According to discogs.com, 7" came out in 1977 in Jamaica on the Joe Gibbs > record label, backed with "Calico Suit" by Mighty Two > > < version.>> > > No - is the same version. > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From martinw@... Wed Oct 22 23:07:13 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:07:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: <20081022195845.FOIR22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@s mtp.ntlworld.com> References: <20081022195845.FOIR22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: A generalised comment on reggae tracks in those days Most of them started life as 'pres'. That is 7" singles imported from Jamaica to the reggae djs and then shops here. They were only actually released here if they caught on. 12" singles were not that common in Jamaica - the dub would be on the B side but the UK market wanted 12" versions If the artists were well known the tracks would find their way onto an album later. Even today reggae albums are often a best of the tracks of the last 12 months padded out with a couple of new tracks. Peel had contacts in a couple of the record shops who would supply him with new tracks as they came in because it helped their own sales Althea & Donna was a strange track in that it was never intended They were 2 schoolgirls (one a daughter of Joe Gibbs I think) and they were hanging around the studio at the end of a session and Joe let them improvise over the backing track he was using. A few pres were done and one found it's way to Peel and he played it to a good reception and told Kid Jensen about it. The rest is history Noone in Jamaica took it seriously as proven by the fact that when they came over here they had no backing musicians and had to play on Top Of ThePops with a horrible BBC orchestra - a cringemaking bit of video that is! Two non musicians and a bunch of guys in suits playing reggae martinw From bill.spiby@... Wed Oct 22 23:20:07 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:20:07 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022212007.EJPL19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> So Martin, was there a Dub of this track kicking around in 77 to your knowledge? Certainly in general, reggae tracks seem to be the hardest to find definitive details on. But hey, that's half the fun. > > From: Martin Wheatley > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 10:07:13 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very > slight exaggeration)) > > > A generalised comment on reggae tracks in those days > > Most of them started life as 'pres'. That is 7" singles imported > from Jamaica to the reggae djs and then shops here. > > They were only actually released here if they caught on. > 12" singles were not that common in Jamaica - the dub would > be on the B side but the UK market wanted 12" versions > If the artists were well known the tracks would find their way > onto an album later. Even today reggae albums are often > a best of the tracks of the last 12 months padded out with a > couple of new tracks. > > Peel had contacts in a couple of the record shops who would > supply him with new tracks as they came in because it helped their > own sales > > Althea & Donna was a strange track in that it was never intended > They were 2 schoolgirls (one a daughter of Joe Gibbs I think) and > they were hanging around the studio at the end of a session and Joe let > them improvise over the backing track he was using. > A few pres were done and one found it's way to Peel and he played it > to a good reception and told Kid Jensen about it. The rest is history > > Noone in > Jamaica took it seriously as proven by the fact that when they came over > here they had no backing musicians and had to play on Top Of ThePops > with a horrible BBC orchestra - a cringemaking bit of video that is! > Two non musicians and a bunch of guys in suits playing reggae > > martinw > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From dunelm@... Wed Oct 22 23:38:43 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:38:43 -0000 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: <20081022212007.EJPL19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: Althea & Donna did certainly rerecord Uptown Top Ranking at some stage – I've heard this rather poor version on a couple of compilation LPs. Why the song was rerecorded, and where the new version originally appears, is a mystery to me. If memory serves, Calico Suit is the instrumental version of the original. Does that make sense? As regards getting hold of a tape of the 1977 Festive Fifty as broadcast, at www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm you will see that Andy Smith (Andymss@...) claims to have a recording of the top thirteen. I believe that members of this group have tried to get in touch with Andy but without success. The tape would certainly be worth getting hold of though. From bill.spiby@... Thu Oct 23 00:07:13 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:07:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022220713.HGUL22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> I suppose that makes the Calico Two instrumental also eligible then. I've sent another request to Andy with regard to his recording. I've offered to purchase it from him for a modest fee and organise the digitising myself (not that I have a clue how to do that, but I'll just donate to one of you chaps who knows of such magic). > > From: "dunelm61" > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 10:38:43 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > Althea & Donna did certainly rerecord Uptown Top Ranking at some stage � > I've heard this rather poor version on a couple of compilation LPs. Why > the song was rerecorded, and where the new version originally appears, > is a mystery to me. > > If memory serves, Calico Suit is the instrumental version of the > original. Does that make sense? > > As regards getting hold of a tape of the 1977 Festive Fifty as > broadcast, at www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm you will see that Andy > Smith (Andymss@...) claims to have a recording of the top thirteen. > I believe that members of this group have tried to get in touch with > Andy but without success. The tape would certainly be worth getting > hold of though. > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Thu Oct 23 00:13:59 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:13:59 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[peel]=201977=20Festive=2050=20(a=20billion?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20questions=20(very=A0=20slight=20exaggeration))?= Message-ID: > <> > No - Peelie would certainly have played (& voted for) the vocal version. The backing track had been used many times before - originally by Alton Ellis in the 60s. Cheers! Rocker From michstoecker@... Thu Oct 23 00:24:53 2008 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:24:53 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow. Certainly end of topic. Thanks for the info Steve. Sorry if the question got a few feathers ruffled. Didn't intend it to. Michael To: peel@yahoogroups.com From: so_it_goes_2512@... Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:14:21 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session Martin is correct. Paul Swain joined them for the Blood And Honour LP (see here for more details: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?full=1&bandid=6618). All this debate about whether the 4 Skins recorded a Peel session is surely due to the fact that Peel Torrent 3 has what purports to be their session, with this tracklisting: 1. Wonderful World 2. Jealousy 3. One Law For Them 4. Evil 5. Yesterday's Heroes. These are the first five tracks from 'The Secret Life Of The 4-Skins' (which you can download from http://rocknrollsavage.blogspot.com/2008/02/4-skins-secret-life-of-4-skins.html, if that's your 'bag'), the artwork for which accompanies the 'music' in the folder. It is claimed to be a long-lost 1981 radio session, but for which DJ's programme remains unclear. One thing is certain: none of the sites I have seen featuring this 2001 compilation claim that it was for Peel. And remember that the Torrents, groundbreaking though they were (and we will forever be grateful to Dee Dee for uploading them), contain a lot of errors (as we all know, Radiohead and Soft Cell never did sessions for JP, but they are here nevertheless). End of topic? Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@...m, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 16:53 22/10/2008, you wrote: > > >4 skins were not a fascist band.. Totally diff from skrewdriver. > >They would be classed as an oi band the same as the Cockney rejects. > >Some of the audience were a different matter! > > One of them joined Skrewdriver > From rockerq@... Thu Oct 23 00:30:39 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:30:39 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session Message-ID: > <> > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? Confused... Rocker From dunelm@... Thu Oct 23 00:32:45 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:32:45 -0000 Subject: Did Doctor Joseph Mengele ever record a session? Message-ID: Only kidding . . . From bill.spiby@... Thu Oct 23 00:42:59 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:42:59 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions =?ISO-8859-1?B?KHZlcnmg?= slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081022224259.HONU22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Thanks Rocker. I'll scrub that then > > From: rockerq@... > Date: 2008/10/22 Wed PM 11:13:59 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very� slight exaggeration)) > > > <> > > > No - Peelie would certainly have played (& voted for) the vocal version. The > backing track had been used many times before - originally by Alton Ellis in > the 60s. > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From martinw@... Thu Oct 23 01:00:00 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?very=A0?= slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 23:13 22/10/2008, you wrote: >><> > >No - Peelie would certainly have played (& voted for) the vocal >version. The backing track had been used many times before - >originally by Alton Ellis in the 60s. I think Calico Suit was the version of Trinity - Three Piece Suite which was probably the base of the version on the back of the Uptown Top Ranking single which I had and which had 1 or 2 A & D vocal bits added possibly later than the pre The actual backing track of Uptown Top Ranking was also used on Marcia Aitkin - I'm Still In Love With You which was coupled with the Trinity track on a 12" . I'd guess those 2 tracks were what Joe Gibbs was working on earlier that day martinw From spiggytopes55@... Thu Oct 23 01:32:42 2008 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:32:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <223151.61260.qm@...> I contacted Andy Smith a long time back and got all his tapes (a mixed bag). These were digitised by my mate Kev (of this list) but I can't see I have a broadcast copy of the Top 13 for 1977. I do however have the an MP3 of the top 13 tracks, taken from albums/singles. Not sure where that came from.   Cheers,   Julian --- On Wed, 22/10/08, dunelm61 wrote: From: dunelm61 Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:38 PM Althea & Donna did certainly rerecord Uptown Top Ranking at some stage – I've heard this rather poor version on a couple of compilation LPs. Why the song was rerecorded, and where the new version originally appears, is a mystery to me. If memory serves, Calico Suit is the instrumental version of the original. Does that make sense? As regards getting hold of a tape of the 1977 Festive Fifty as broadcast, at www.rocklist. net/festive50. htm you will see that Andy Smith (Andymss@aol. com) claims to have a recording of the top thirteen. I believe that members of this group have tried to get in touch with Andy but without success. The tape would certainly be worth getting hold of though. From rockerq@... Thu Oct 23 01:34:02 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:34:02 EDT Subject: [peel] 400 Tapes Message-ID: Have just packaged up the next two batches of cassettes, which will be winging their way to two lucky rippers tomorrow. These are the 14th and 15th batches, not including the ones I have ripped myself, and we are now at the end of our postage funding! (each batch costs around ten sterling quids for its return trip). So if anyone is enjoying the fruits of these ripped tapes, please consider making a donation to the fund, we are around half way there! You can PayPal me at rockerq@... - (make sure you tell me it's for peel tapes postage) - or send me cash, cheques or postal orders - email me for details! Cheers! Rocker "If I could have back all the money I've spent on drink... I'd spend it on drink" From saipanda@... Thu Oct 23 08:40:11 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:40:11 -0000 Subject: thanks to everyone (Oscars-style) In-Reply-To: <120669.94440.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Doc, Many thanks for this and other recent ones from the 400 Box. Too bad about the whistling background sound on the previous one. Also many thanks for recent Wiki updates/additions. And many thanks, as ever, also to RobF, Andrew, Ken, Steve (Teenage Kicks), and everyone else who shared stuff recently. Very much enjoyed listening to parkermike81's compilation of mistakes last night. Good one. And Rocker -- slightly belatedly heard your latest on Dandelion, also last night. For those who haven't caught the show yet, there's a nice mention for this group. And anyone else I didn't mention... Cheers, Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Here's today's effort. > > This is Wednesday 29th November. Sessions come from the Wailing Cocks and a repeat of John Cooper Clarke's debut. The recording is the bulk of the second hour of the show, although the end is missing. Funny actually, with a name like Wailing Cocks I was expecting them to be an Oi! type punk band, but they turn out to be a fairly standard rock group. From jamie421960@... Thu Oct 23 14:39:57 2008 From: jamie421960@... (jamie421960) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:39:57 -0000 Subject: 400 Tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > Have just packaged up the next two batches of cassettes, which will be > winging their way to two lucky rippers tomorrow. > > These are the 14th and 15th batches, not including the ones I have ripped > myself, and we are now at the end of our postage funding! (each batch costs > around ten sterling quids for its return trip). > > So if anyone is enjoying the fruits of these ripped tapes, please consider > making a donation to the fund, we are around half way there! > > You can PayPal me at rockerq@... - (make sure you tell me it's for peel > tapes postage) - or send me cash, cheques or postal orders - email me for > details! > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > "If I could have back all the money I've spent on drink... I'd spend it on > drink" > Having been indeed enjoying the fruits - quietly in the background - I am happy to make a contribution to the postage fund. Just done the transaction per PayPal. Thanks to all for the good work. Greetings from Germany Andrew From bill.spiby@... Thu Oct 23 22:42:16 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:42:16 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions ( =?ISO-8859-1?B?dmVyeaA=?= slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081023204216.TCQD2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Thanks Martin, It's making my hair curly trying to work it out. Am I right then in thinking that there is no other even vaguely eligible version though, released in '77 other than the A side of the 7"? Given that the base tune was from something else and the version with vocal A&D dubs is probably from a later release. Regards Bill > > From: Martin Wheatley > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu AM 12:00:00 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions ( > very� slight exaggeration)) > > At 23:13 22/10/2008, you wrote: > > >><> > > > >No - Peelie would certainly have played (& voted for) the vocal > >version. The backing track had been used many times before - > >originally by Alton Ellis in the 60s. > > I think Calico Suit was the version of Trinity - Three Piece Suite > which was probably the base of the version on the back of the > Uptown Top Ranking single which I had and which had 1 or 2 > A & D vocal bits added possibly later than the pre > The actual backing track of Uptown Top Ranking was also used > on Marcia Aitkin - I'm Still In Love With You which was coupled > with the Trinity track on a 12" . I'd guess those 2 tracks were > what Joe Gibbs was working on earlier that day > > martinw > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Thu Oct 23 23:07:00 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:07:00 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[peel]=201977=20Festive=2050=20(a=20billion?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20questions=20(=A0=20very=A0=20slight=20exaggeration))?= Message-ID: > < thinking that there is no other even vaguely eligible version though, released in > '77 other than the A side of the 7"? Given that the base tune was from > something else and the version with vocal A&D dubs is probably from a later > release.>> > Yes!! Rocker > From bill.spiby@... Thu Oct 23 23:39:36 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:39:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions =?ISO-8859-1?B?KKA=?= =?ISO-8859-1?B?IHZlcnmg?= slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081023213936.VRQB19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Thanks Rocker. I'll get my straighteners out. Have hopefully got recordings of portions of two 77 FF shows winging their way to me in the post. Will forward them on to you for uploading or downloading or whatever it is and wider circulation. I'm complete technophobe and don't understand stuff beyond emails. Bill > > From: rockerq@... > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu PM 10:07:00 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (� very� slight exaggeration)) > > > < > thinking that there is no other even vaguely eligible version though, released in > > '77 other than the A side of the 7"? Given that the base tune was from > > something else and the version with vocal A&D dubs is probably from a later > > release.>> > > > Yes!! > > Rocker > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From thebarguest@... Thu Oct 23 23:43:32 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:43:32 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:_[peel]_1977_Festive_50_(a_billion_questions_(=A0_very=A0_slight_exaggeration))?= In-Reply-To: <20081023213936.VRQB19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: "straighteners out" - great song by the stranglers, from 1977 ............ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Thanks Rocker. I'll get my straighteners out. > > Have hopefully got recordings of portions of two 77 FF shows winging their way to me in the post. Will forward them on to you for uploading or downloading or whatever it is and wider circulation. I'm complete technophobe and don't understand stuff beyond emails. > > Bill > > > > From: rockerq@... > > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu PM 10:07:00 BST > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (  very  slight exaggeration)) > > > > > < > > thinking that there is no other even vaguely eligible version though, released in > > > '77 other than the A side of the 7"? Given that the base tune was from > > > something else and the version with vocal A&D dubs is probably from a later > > > release.>> > > > > > Yes!! > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > From hotmissile_lives@... Fri Oct 24 00:26:50 2008 From: hotmissile_lives@... (Mic) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:26:50 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:__Editing_other_people=92s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= In-Reply-To: <20081019152015.HWNW22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks for the replies to my questions last week, and apologies for not replying to your replies sooner. The main reason for my tardiness is that I was hoping to say something useful like "I've corrected the entries", but I still haven't managed to finish that... sorry. Particular thanks to Ken and Bill for your comments about sessions and song versions. I've been folding them in, but they've raised a few more questions... Firstly, Ken, you mentioned that the Adam and the Ants session on 29 December 1980 was a repeat of their second... which turns out to be from 1978. Is that right? But then again, it looks like their only later session was in 1979, so what they were doing in the best sessions of the year, I don't know. You also mention, both in your reply and your book, a band called Misty, who I don't think I'm familiar with. Is that just a different name for Misty in Roots? And Bill, I fear that your work on the 1976 & 77 Fifties means that I'm going to have to put just a bit more effort into confirming which versions of songs are being played. Which is a good thing; I'm sure I can't be alone in seeing your 1976 list and thinking "Ooh, that's handy, now I know just which tracks I need to track down myself." But I'm not quite sure what you're saying about some of these versions. Take "Alison" in 1978 - are you saying that the single version is different to the album version, or just that John played the single? And similar for the others. But I guess that begs another question - I've been listing songs with their source record. Er, that's pretty vague. Maybe an example would help. I'd say that "Alison" is 'from' 'My Aim Is True', even though the single was released first, because that was the album the single was sourced from. Conversely, I'd describe "Watching the Detectives" as a '7" single', even though it's on the US version of 'My Aim Is True' and the reissues, and it's on 'The Very Best of', because it wasn't really *from* any of those albums. Does that make sense? So back to the question: Does that seem a sensible way to credit songs, or would it be better if I credited the actual record that John (probably) played? Right, that's my equivalent of a short memo. Thanks again, everyone. Mic. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Hi Mic, > > These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of comments: > > 1978 > 37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, therefore it's the single) > 34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) > 20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible single version rather than the Sire LP) > 10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear the start of Smarter than You coming in) > > 1979 > 22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) > 16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) > 02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP really) > > 1980 > 42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) > 29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) > 08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) > > I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. > > Kind regards > Bill > > > > From: "Mic" > > Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] Editing other people's work / FF79 & 80 questions > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & listen > > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there are > > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to take > > me some time to get there... > > > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising those > > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or technology to > > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do something > > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive Fifties, > > and the associated shows: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > > However, other people have been working on those too, so I thought > > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any comments? > > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just quoted > > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all his > > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so wish. I > > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best of > > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the original > > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard anything > > from. If that makes sense. > > > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, I've > > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. Starting > > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, so > > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it doesn't > > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have any > > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with run-of- > > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear 15 > > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match those on > > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big clue > > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from other > > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive Fifty > > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I got > > the wrong end of the stick here? > > > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) as > > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing to > > confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? > > > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in here > > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across three > > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the Wiki, > > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of them's > > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any to > > bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on the > > site. > > > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have a > > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two have > > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think there's a > > bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or do > > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I just > > hearing things? > > > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up of > > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an equal > > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent compilation 2. > > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual tracks – > > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – but > > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > > from the shows? > > > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks in > > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks everyone > > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > > > Mic. From martinw@... Fri Oct 24 00:37:56 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:37:56 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: <20081022142632.BNUF21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@s mtp.ntlworld.com> References: <20081022142632.BNUF21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: This'll be a lengthy one as it's the reply to your list As far as I'm aware there were no session tracks this early in the Festive Fifties so you can eliminate those > > > > > > John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) > > > 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away > > > Probably played single (3.13) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 2 Althea & Donna – Uptown Top Ranking > > > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > > > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > > > help with details about this one? We've covered this!!!! > > > > > > 3 The Motors – You Beat the Hell Out of Me > > > Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 4 The Rezillos – I Can't Stand My Baby > > > Had to be the single (2.35) > > > > > > 5 John Cooper Clarke – Suspended Sentence > > > Had to be the single > > > > > > 6 Desperate Bicycles – Smokescreen > > > Had to be the single (2.03) > > > > > > 7 Merlene Webber – Right Track > > > Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a > > > promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? It would be from the Jamaican pre of the single The pre would always be earlier than any UK release > > > > > > 8 Neil Young – Like a Hurricane > > > Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP (8.14). > > > This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. > > > Eligible: Single (5.24) > > > > > > 9 The Clash – Complete Control > > > Had to be single (3.10) > > > > > > 10 Frankie Miller – Be Good to Yourself > > > I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 11 The Sex Pistols – Holidays in the Sun > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > 12 The Lurkers – Shadow > > > Had to be single > > > > > > 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor – Truly > > > These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one was > > > originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. > > > It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played although > > > technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the > > > Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco > > > Mix released? If it has the singer and the toaster on it it's probably the 12" > > > > > > 14 Pink Floyd – Pigs > > > Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from > > > Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 > > > (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you accept > > > those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 track > > > version) (3.26) > > > > > > 15 Johnny Moped – Incendiary Device > > > Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) > > > > > > 16 Some Chicken – New Religion > > > Had to be Single (2.17) > > > > > > 17 Culture – See Them Come > > > Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is > > > the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other > > > contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can > > > anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? Again probably from a Jamaican pre single > > > > > > 18 The Motors – Emergency > > > Had to be session From the album I would have thought > > > > > > 19 The Yobs – The Worm Song > > > Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are actually The > > > Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) > > > > > > 20 The Boys – Box Number > > > Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box > > > Number 939 > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 21 The Stranglers – London Lady > > > Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus > > > Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? > > > > > > 22 Sham 69 – I Don't Wanna > > > Had to be single (1.46) > > > > > > 23 The Ramones – Pinhead > > > Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP > > > (2.42) version. Anyone? > > > > > > 24 Jah Woosh – Freedom Connection > > > Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't available at > > > all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got > > > any further info on this one? Again probably the Jamican pre single so UK release dates would be irrelevant > > > > > > 25 Status Quo – Can't Give You More > > > Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) > > > > > > 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer – Blue Wind > > > Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group > > > Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it case > > > of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take > > > as early? Running times can be confusing because it depends whether you time from beginning to the end of the track or beginning of the track to the beginning of the next one. The later (which is surprisingly common can lead to a variety of different timings for the same thing). I've discovered this the hard way when digitising my records! > > > > > > 27 The Clash – White Riot > > > I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single (2.01) > > > but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly > > > helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. > > > On punk singles my instinct is that Peel would go for the single but it goes to show you never can tell - to coin a phrase! > > > 28 Iggy Pop – Success > > > I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life single > > > B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? > > > > > > 29 Generation X – Your Generation > > > Going for the single (3.11) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 30 King Short Shirt – Nobody Go Run Me > > > Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? Could be either a pre or the album because I have a feeling this actually an older track > > > > > > 31 The Lurkers – Love Story > > > Had to be B side of Shadow single > > > > > > 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Waiting in Vain > > > Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? > > > Was there a long 12"? > > > 33 Dr Feelgood – Paradise > > > Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) > > > > > > 34 Five Hand Reel – Cruel Brother > > > Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got to be > > > For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release solo > > > version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, > > > so arguably this is eligible No way the 2 could be confused > > > > > > 35 The Saints – I'm Stranded > > > Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same > > > (3.25). Anyone? > > > > > > 36 David Bowie – "Heroes" > > > Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP > > > version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown > > > Eligible: Single edit (3.32) > > > French language single edit "Heros" > > > German language single edit "Helden" > > > English/French hybrid full length version > > > English/German hybrid full length version > > > Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? > > > > > > 37 The Users – Sick on You > > > Had to be single (3.20) > > > > > > 38 X Ray Spex – Oh Bondage Up Yours! > > > Going for the single (2.45) > > > Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 Definitely the single > > > > > > 39 The Boomtown Rats – Lookin' After Number 1 > > > Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP version is > > > the same (3.06). Anyone? > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 40 June Tabor – No Man's Land > > > Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) > > > Eligible: Session The album version > > > > > > 41 The Damned – Neat Neat Neat > > > Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are > > > identical (2.46). Anyone? > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 42 Ry Cooder – The Dark End of the Street > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! Song and artist were favourites of Andy Kershaw so probably introduced to Peel by him > > > > > > 43 Suburban Studs – Questions > > > Had to be single (2.57) > > > > > > 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators – Feel Like Making Love > > > Going for the single > > > Eligible: B side `Version' > > > 12" was this released in '77 though? > > > > > > 45 Dave Edmunds – I Knew the Bride > > > Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? > > > Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile > > > > > > 46 The Jam – Away from the Numbers > > > Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) > > > > > > 47 Wreckless Eric – (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World > > > Probably played single > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 48 Roy Buchanan – Green Onions > > > Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? > > > > > > 49 Generation X – Wild Dub (Version) > > > Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on > > > eligibility of A side? > > > > > > 50 Snatch – I.R.T. > > > B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side (think > > > it's the same version – can anyone confirm?) I think the Snatch tracks ssued in different pairings in the US and that's what Peel played > > > > > > 51 The Sex Pistols – Pretty Vacant > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) > > > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers – John Willie's Ferret > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP Another Kershaw special! > > > > > > 53 Peter Tosh – Stepping Razor > > > Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? > > > Again - maybe from a Jamaican pre > > > 54 The Clash – Capital Radio > > > Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One > > > version) > > > > > > 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions – Watching the Detectives > > > Had to be single (3.43) > > > > > > 56 The Motors – Bringing in the Morning Light > > > Had to be session > > > Again it's on the first album in 1977 > > > 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods – Beginning of the End > > > Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > 58 Devo – Jocko Homo > > > Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) > > > > > > 59 The Buzzcocks – Whatever Happened To...? > > > Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) > > > > > > 60 Little Feat – Rocket in My Pocket > > > Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 > > > > > > 61 The Sex Pistols – God Save the Queen > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > > > Regards > > > Bill Spiby > > > From ken_garner@... Fri Oct 24 01:08:29 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:08:29 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:__Editing_other_people=92s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ...Well, that's what it said on the session sheet of Adam and the Ants #2, rpt at end 80. I can not recall if I looked anew at that show script when I was at written archives last year. It might be right , it might be wrong. Peel show files and I have used MIsty and Misty in Roots interchangeably, yes, sorry, for the one band. I think Martin is right to dampen down your concerns: sessions versions did not appear in the F50s until the eighties, as he says, after they became only best tracks of the year, not all time. I dread admitting this, but I feel I should try to put you out of your misery: I do have the PasBs for those 77 F50 shows somewhere (my box files stop in June 78). If I get an hour or two over the weekend I'll see if I can find them and scan them... k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Mic" wrote: > > Hi all, > > Thanks for the replies to my questions last week, and apologies for > not replying to your replies sooner. The main reason for my tardiness > is that I was hoping to say something useful like "I've corrected the > entries", but I still haven't managed to finish that... sorry. > > Particular thanks to Ken and Bill for your comments about sessions > and song versions. I've been folding them in, but they've raised a > few more questions... > > Firstly, Ken, you mentioned that the Adam and the Ants session on 29 > December 1980 was a repeat of their second... which turns out to be > from 1978. Is that right? But then again, it looks like their only > later session was in 1979, so what they were doing in the best > sessions of the year, I don't know. > > You also mention, both in your reply and your book, a band called > Misty, who I don't think I'm familiar with. Is that just a different > name for Misty in Roots? > > And Bill, I fear that your work on the 1976 & 77 Fifties means that > I'm going to have to put just a bit more effort into confirming which > versions of songs are being played. Which is a good thing; I'm sure I > can't be alone in seeing your 1976 list and thinking "Ooh, that's > handy, now I know just which tracks I need to track down myself." > > But I'm not quite sure what you're saying about some of these > versions. Take "Alison" in 1978 - are you saying that the single > version is different to the album version, or just that John played > the single? And similar for the others. > > But I guess that begs another question - I've been listing songs with > their source record. Er, that's pretty vague. Maybe an example would > help. I'd say that "Alison" is 'from' 'My Aim Is True', even though > the single was released first, because that was the album the single > was sourced from. Conversely, I'd describe "Watching the Detectives" > as a '7" single', even though it's on the US version of 'My Aim Is > True' and the reissues, and it's on 'The Very Best of', because it > wasn't really *from* any of those albums. Does that make sense? > > So back to the question: Does that seem a sensible way to credit > songs, or would it be better if I credited the actual record that > John (probably) played? > > Right, that's my equivalent of a short memo. Thanks again, everyone. > > Mic. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > > Hi Mic, > > > > These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of > comments: > > > > 1978 > > 37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, > therefore it's the single) > > 34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream > but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) > > 20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible > single version rather than the Sire LP) > > 10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear > the start of Smarter than You coming in) > > > > 1979 > > 22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) > > 16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) > > 02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP > really) > > > > 1980 > > 42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) > > 29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) > > 08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) > > > > I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting > some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. > > > > Kind regards > > Bill > > > > > > From: "Mic" > > > Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [peel] Editing other people's work / FF79 & 80 > questions > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & > listen > > > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there > are > > > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to > take > > > me some time to get there... > > > > > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > > > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising > those > > > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or > technology to > > > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do > something > > > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > > > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > > > > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive > Fifties, > > > and the associated shows: > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > > > However, other people have been working on those too, so I > thought > > > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > > > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any > comments? > > > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > > > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > > > > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > > > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > > > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > > > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just > quoted > > > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all > his > > > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > > > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so > wish. I > > > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > > > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best > of > > > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the > original > > > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > > > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard > anything > > > from. If that makes sense. > > > > > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, > I've > > > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. > Starting > > > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > > > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > > > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, > so > > > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it > doesn't > > > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have > any > > > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with > run-of- > > > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear > 15 > > > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match > those on > > > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big > clue > > > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > > > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from > other > > > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive > Fifty > > > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I > got > > > the wrong end of the stick here? > > > > > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > > > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) > as > > > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing > to > > > confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? > > > > > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in > here > > > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across > three > > > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > > > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the > Wiki, > > > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of > them's > > > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any > to > > > bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on > the > > > site. > > > > > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have > a > > > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two > have > > > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think > there's a > > > bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or > do > > > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I > just > > > hearing things? > > > > > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up > of > > > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an > equal > > > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > > > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > > > > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent > compilation 2. > > > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > > > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > > > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > > > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual > tracks – > > > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – > but > > > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > > > from the shows? > > > > > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks > in > > > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks > everyone > > > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > > > > > Mic. > From ken_garner@... Fri Oct 24 01:19:22 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:19:22 -0000 Subject: "Fancy a brew?" Message-ID: Here's another oddity from my dwindling complete show archive: the first of 12 shows in 1996 (Mon-Thur for one week in March, April and October respectively) in which Peel travelled to Manchester and sat in for Mark Radcliffe on his then R1 show 10pm-midnight. Not a normal Peel show, then (I think you can tell it's still essentially Radcliffe's show in the music selection and programming by producer Lis), but very funny and enjoyable nonetheless, with Lard and Simon Armitage in the studio, and Number One Cup playing in live from Studio 3 downstairs "in the basement". This is one I taped myself off-air and completely forgot I had, until Roger Olive and I found the DATs of most of these shows waiting to be ripped at Maida Vale in 2007 (see book p186). So this one is also in the official BBC archive, which is a very good thing... Peel is Radcliffe 1996-03-18a http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3W6M8NBD Peel is Radcliffe 1996-03-18b http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MO92T227 ken From dr_mango2004@... Fri Oct 24 02:04:32 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:04:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 11 January 1979 (new download: 400 box) Message-ID: <63162.35950.qm@...> Here's another. This is Thursday 11 January 1979, sadly only the last 45 minutes of the show, but a really enjoyable one. According to Ken's book, this show had repeats of the debut sessions from the Undertones and Scritti Politti. There's no Undertones track on the tape and Peel doesn't mention them in his closing comments, but for now I've gone with the book and put these details on the wiki. The quality of this tape is much, much better than the horrible whiny ones from November 1978 that I posted this week. I had to spend some not inconsiderable time adjusting the speed of this. The recording was clearly running too fast at the start, but then it slowed during the second half. I ended up having to chop my wav rip in half, correct the respective speeds and then stitch it back together. The closing track is wonderful; it's one of those old 7" singles that JP used to pull out of the hat now and again. In fact, even though the recording is only 45 mins long, it's a great mix. File length: 45:38 (112 kbps mono mp3). File size: 36.5 MB Download: http://sharebee.com/00d4fb28 Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/11_January_1979 Dr M. From jimmystep@... Fri Oct 24 11:42:22 2008 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:42:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <332434.70033.qm@...> --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > 42 Ry Cooder – The Dark End of the Street > > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken > Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) > although released in 1972! > Song and artist were favourites of Andy Kershaw so probably > introduced > to Peel by him > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers – John Willie's > Ferret > > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > Another Kershaw special! I'm sorry Martin but I cannae let you away with these two! It was probably the other way around, Peel converting Kershaw. Peel was well familiar with Ry Cooder's work, all the way back to his Beefheart days. He was also fond of playing the odd old-time folkie as well...... Cheers......Jimmy From martinw@... Fri Oct 24 15:04:07 2008 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:04:07 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: <332434.70033.qm@...> References: <332434.70033.qm@...> Message-ID: At 10:42 24/10/2008, you wrote: >--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Martin Wheatley ><martinw@...> >wrote: > > > > > > 42 Ry Cooder – The Dark End of the Street > > > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken > > Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) > > although released in 1972! > > Song and artist were favourites of Andy Kershaw so probably > > introduced > > to Peel by him > > > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers – John Willie's > > Ferret > > > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > > Another Kershaw special! > >I'm sorry Martin but I cannae let you away with >these two! It was probably the other way around, >Peel converting Kershaw. Peel was well familiar >with Ry Cooder's work, all the way back to his >Beefheart days. He was also fond of playing the >odd old-time folkie as well...... > >Cheers......Jimmy Kershaw encountered the Oldham Tinkers when he was social secretary at Leeds University - several of the artists he booked there reappeared later on his show I'm sure Peel was very familiar with Ry Cooder but 'Dark End Of The Street' was a Kershaw speciality so I just picked up on the connection bearing in mind that Kershaw and Peel where in the same office at the time. However you may be right as this sort of thing is all guess work From rockerq@... Fri Oct 24 17:29:06 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:29:06 EDT Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20[peel]=20Re:=20=20Editing=20other=20people?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99s=20work=20/=20FF79=20&=2080=20questions?= Message-ID: > < PasBs for those 77 F50 shows somewhere (my box files stop in June 78). If I > get an hour or > two over the weekend I'll see if I can find them and scan them...>> > If you do, please send them to the group! Cheers! Rocker PS Maybe Peel thought that broadcasting an old Adam & the Ants session would be interesting, to highlight how shit their chart records were! Or just so that he'd pick up some listeners who'd bought said shit chart records for xmas - I do seem to remember this going out, although the track I remember was "Puerto-Rican" (because of its racist content), which is from the first session - maybe he repeated more than one? > From dunelm@... Fri Oct 24 20:52:01 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:52:01 -0000 Subject: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, so is nobody else going to mention that in 1977 Andy Kershaw was a 17 year old schoolboy studying for his A-levels at Hulme Grammar School? "Kershaw encountered the Oldham Tinkers when he was social secretary at Leeds University several of the artists he booked there reappeared later on his show". "I'm sure Peel was very familiar with Ry Cooder but 'Dark End Of The Street' was a Kershaw speciality so I just picked up on the connection bearing in mind that Kershaw and Peel where in the same office at the time". From parkermike81@... Fri Oct 24 22:39:46 2008 From: parkermike81@... (Mike Parker) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] thanks to everyone (Oscars-style) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <880325.26749.qm@...> hello, yes ill reciprocate that sentiment, thanks to everyone past and present who`s contributed, specially the main players who conduct the aural assault on the eardrums at an alarming rate. thanks to the 3s`s respectively with their help and comments[stoecker,steve so it goes,and steve saipanda.]  more ''best of peels'' on there way,with many tracks included that hopefully bleeding lugholes will experience for the first time, regards mikemisery.-- On Thu, 10/23/08, saipanda wrote: From: saipanda Subject: [peel] thanks to everyone (Oscars-style) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:40 AM Hi Doc, Many thanks for this and other recent ones from the 400 Box. Too bad about the whistling background sound on the previous one. Also many thanks for recent Wiki updates/additions. And many thanks, as ever, also to RobF, Andrew, Ken, Steve (Teenage Kicks), and everyone else who shared stuff recently. Very much enjoyed listening to parkermike81' s compilation of mistakes last night. Good one. And Rocker -- slightly belatedly heard your latest on Dandelion, also last night. For those who haven't caught the show yet, there's a nice mention for this group. And anyone else I didn't mention... Cheers, Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Here's today's effort. > > This is Wednesday 29th November. Sessions come from the Wailing Cocks and a repeat of John Cooper Clarke's debut. The recording is the bulk of the second hour of the show, although the end is missing. Funny actually, with a name like Wailing Cocks I was expecting them to be an Oi! type punk band, but they turn out to be a fairly standard rock group. From ken_garner@... Sat Oct 25 00:15:53 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:15:53 -0000 Subject: 11 January 1979 (new download: 400 box) In-Reply-To: <63162.35950.qm@...> Message-ID: ...just checked back through sources and notes, and yes, you're right, I'm wrong. I think this date was one of the 400 'blanks' I had back in 92/93 period. Then, last year, I got the info about Scritti Politti, Stiff Little Fingers and Undertones from two generally reliable collectors, I cannt recall who, but possibly amongst this congregation (or not). But checking tonight my printed-out working versions in order, in a later version I only now notice I have scored out in ink 'undertones', which suggests at a late stage I did discover this was wrong, but omitted to make the change in the database. I have to confess there are a handful of oversights like this in the book. Ponderosa Glee Boys is another: the TX date is correct in the shows index, wrong in the sessionography. Argh! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Here's another. > > This is Thursday 11 January 1979, sadly only the last 45 minutes of the show, but a really enjoyable one. According to Ken's book, this show had repeats of the debut sessions from the Undertones and Scritti Politti. There's no Undertones track on the tape and Peel doesn't mention them in his closing comments, but for now I've gone with the book and put these details on the wiki. > > The quality of this tape is much, much better than the horrible whiny ones from November 1978 that I posted this week. I had to spend some not inconsiderable time adjusting the speed of this. The recording was clearly running too fast at the start, but then it slowed during the second half. I ended up having to chop my wav rip in half, correct the respective speeds and then stitch it back together. > > The closing track is wonderful; it's one of those old 7" singles that JP used to pull out of the hat now and again. In fact, even though the recording is only 45 mins long, it's a great mix. > > File length: 45:38 (112 kbps mono mp3). File size: 36.5 MB > Download: http://sharebee.com/00d4fb28 > Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/11_January_1979 > > Dr M. > From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 25 12:43:01 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:43:01 -0000 Subject: best of peel comp`s with introductions. Message-ID: ''best of peel vol 10'' including bastro in session [part 1] http://www.megaupload.com/?d=g9tb7dgj [part 2] http://www.megaupload.com/? d=kvrn5pdr ''best of peel vol 9'' including tad, happy flowers & buffalo tom in session. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=a8xjlo1h From rockerq@... Sat Oct 25 14:09:33 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:33 EDT Subject: [peel] BBC news items Message-ID: In case anyone didn't see these, here's a couple of related links: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7679157.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7687742.stm Cheers! Rocker From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 25 14:21:33 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:21:33 -0000 Subject: best of peel comp`s with introductions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mike Thanks for uploading these, but you may want to check the Part 9 link again, as I tried it and it said it was unavailable. Best wishes Steve [soon to be ex-Teenage Kicks] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > ''best of peel vol 10'' including bastro in session [part 1] > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=g9tb7dgj > [part 2] > http://www.megaupload.com/? > d=kvrn5pdr > ''best of peel vol 9'' including tad, happy flowers & buffalo tom in > session. > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=a8xjlo1h > From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 25 16:53:23 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:53:23 -0000 Subject: best of peel comp`s with introductions[.vol 9] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: >thanks steve, try this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8qt6rbx7 > Dear Mike > > Thanks for uploading these, but you may want to check the Part 9 link > again, as I tried it and it said it was unavailable. > > Best wishes > Steve [soon to be ex-Teenage Kicks] > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > > > ''best of peel vol 10'' including bastro in session [part 1] > > http://www.megaupload.com/? d=g9tb7dgj > > [part 2] > > http://www.megaupload.com/? > > d=kvrn5pdr > > ''best of peel vol 9'' including tad, happy flowers & buffalo tom in > > session. > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=a8xjlo1h > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 25 20:26:54 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:26:54 -0000 Subject: best of peel comp`s with introductions[.vol 9] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Mike, that did the trick! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > >thanks steve, try this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8qt6rbx7 > > Dear Mike > > > > Thanks for uploading these, but you may want to check the Part 9 > link > > again, as I tried it and it said it was unavailable. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve [soon to be ex-Teenage Kicks] > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "parkermike81" wrote: > > > > > > ''best of peel vol 10'' including bastro in session [part 1] > > > http://www.megaupload.com/? > d=g9tb7dgj > > > [part 2] > > > http://www.megaupload.com/? > > > > d=kvrn5pdr > > > > ''best of peel vol 9'' including tad, happy flowers & buffalo tom > in > > > session. > > > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=a8xjlo1h > > > > > > From dr_mango2004@... Sat Oct 25 20:47:18 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:47:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 16 January 1979 (new download: 400 box) Message-ID: <43857.13135.qm@...> Here's another incomplete one. This is the start of the show from Tuesday 16 January 1979, the first 38 minutes of it. Sessions come from Tubeway Army, making their debut, and the Cimarrons. Quality is good. Maybe some more bits of this show will turn up in the future. File length: 38:35 (128 kbps mono mp3). File size: 35.33 MB Download: http://sharebee.com/cff5154f Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/16_January_1979 Dr M. From billfromnorthwales@... Sat Oct 25 22:37:52 2008 From: billfromnorthwales@... (billfromnorthwales) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:37:52 -0000 Subject: Peel 400 tapes - 12 (Twelve) NEW SHOWS Message-ID: OK, Ive just finished digitising my second lot of tapes, and a real challenge they were too, with all the problems that Roger describes, and more.... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/message/8086 Here is a picture of the mould http://tiny.cc/vwtlD OK, OK quit your jibba jabbin' and give us the shows... Here they are with some others, go fetch... http://www.mediafire.com/Peel400 If you want some details, or show by show: 11 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2zbnmdxrymi Tracklist http://tiny.cc/5RxGI 18 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dnk5m3zw4jd Tracklists http://tiny.cc/1Ozzc http://tiny.cc/RoQeM 20 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mrw2gdmdjdn Tracklists http://tiny.cc/iM0LS http://tiny.cc/p7uup 23 Oct 1978 (Full) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n22lgdzimnm Tracklists http://tiny.cc/Qa5VK http://tiny.cc/wsWJK 25 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mdyzizawmm2 Tracklists http://tiny.cc/wsWJK http://tiny.cc/BKGs0 http://tiny.cc/BMCa6 2 Nov 1978 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?a1mciiymwei Tracklist http://tiny.cc/l69TO 7 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zmmgfzytft0 Tracklists http://tiny.cc/ucC7w http://tiny.cc/CoSS6 9 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yznmnyhvkmn 13 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i2ydyzyjwel 15 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gdj2qmwjkwm Tracklists http://tiny.cc/lBfU8 http://tiny.cc/pj1C6 16 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mjz2kgmmm1u Tracklists http://tiny.cc/pj1C6 http://tiny.cc/B0SpM http://tiny.cc/S6QAt 20 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ywzzmtd0ngz These are on the way to Rocker on a DVD. I will await Batch 3 How do these sound?? Well pretty poor, actually. The 1978 shows are AM, and the 1979 shows are FM mono but actually gettting many of the tapes to play through was very difficult. I used 4 different tape decks, and transferred casing, rollers pads, in a couple of cases EVERTHING (even leader tape) except the actual magnetic tape itself. CAN I ASK 2 FAVOURS PLEASE!!!!! 1> Would someone please update the WIKI thing because that is not my speciality 2> Can I ask for all the 400 shows to be put on to Mediafire. http://www.mediafire.com/ At 112 kbs mono MP3 the file size will be under the 100 meg limit, so we will have a single location for all 400 box shows. As soon as it is on Mediafire, I can instantly add it to http://www.mediafire.com/Peel400 Cheers to everyone else who is uploading stuff Bill From penarth2002@... Sun Oct 26 01:42:11 2008 From: penarth2002@... (egdirdle2001) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:42:11 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 Message-ID: I have very many TDK 120s from Jan 1981 upto about 1987. Unfortunately they feature very little of the chat and mainly the music from Peel shows. With my male completist gene working overtime I seem to have worked up a soft spot for Peel's 1981 shows. Are any from 1981 available to download and can I make a monetary contribution towards this kind of archive making. Many, many thanks to the people who have put up the shows from 1978 and 1979 as well as all the others. I really do appreciate this very much indeed. I really miss him...him and Strummer Best wishes everyone Karl From saipanda@... Sun Oct 26 04:44:06 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:44:06 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Karl, This is the kind of thing where I'd like to be able to point you to the Wiki year page for 1981 and that would be it. Unfortunately, though, 1981 is one of those that's still a work in progress (it's not the only one). I'll try and get a bit organized on 1981 this upcoming week. There are a couple of things up there already, so here's the link anyway: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1981 Better news, though, is that there were a big punch of 1981 shows floating around relatively recently. I think most of these were originally shared via the group earlier this year (by Kevin/Julian, from memory), although I might be wrong, and many were (also?) up on John Peel Everyday. Think these are mostly from those ones, at least they are what I seem to have ("It Makes Me Laugh" was a bit more recent): 1981-02-16a (New Order, Rezillos sessions) 59:07 1981-02-16b (New Order, Rezillos sessions) 1:00:50 1981-04-07 (B Movie, Positive Noise) 1981-04-08 (All singles show) 2:00:14 1981-04-09 (Cuban Heels, Glaxo Babies sessions) 2:00:22 1981-05-11 (Chefs, Frames sessions) 1:59:57 1981-05-12 (Flock Of Seagulls, Ski Patrol sessions) 2:03:09 1981-05-13 (Revillos, Department S sessions) 1:58:41 1981-05-14 (New Order, Killing Joke sessions) 1:59:16 1981-05-16 (It Makes Me Laugh) 43:50 1981-05-18 (The Moondogs, Ivor Cutler sessions) 2:00:20 1981-05-19 (The Moderates, The Lucys sessions) 1:59:43 1981-05-25 (Day after LFC won the European Cup in Paris) 1:33:31 If you search the group under the session artist names, you might be able to find some of these. Links may or may not still be active, but can be re-uploaded if not. Some are also available at John Horne's "Rewind" page: http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapesrewound.html And one at Gary's successor to the mighty John Peel Everyday: http://johnpeeldotnet.wordpress.com/downloads/ And Fades In Slowly: http://fadesinslowly.blogspot.com/ Good hunting! In addition, there the Festive Fifty for that year, which seems to be scattered around volumes 1 and 2 of the 17 volume dvd compilation available on assorted torrent sources (thanks to DeeDee). Have a quick Goggle for links. Hopefully, Mic of this list will be updating the Wiki on this at some point, following his amazing job on 1978, 1979 and 1981 F50s. Finally, think the 400 Box may well be including 1981 shows -- as it's supposed to include stuff from around five years from 1978. All will doubtless be revealed in the fullness of time. Cheers, Steve PS On the monetary front, please check the message in the past few days from Rocker re donations for 400 Box postage. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "egdirdle2001" wrote: > > I have very many TDK 120s from Jan 1981 upto about 1987. Unfortunately > they feature very little of the chat and mainly the music from Peel > shows. > > With my male completist gene working overtime I seem to have worked up > a soft spot for Peel's 1981 shows. > > Are any from 1981 available to download and can I make a monetary > contribution towards this kind of archive making. Many, many thanks to > the people who have put up the shows from 1978 and 1979 as well as all > the others. I really do appreciate this very much indeed. > > I really miss him...him and Strummer > > Best wishes everyone > > Karl > From saipanda@... Sun Oct 26 05:10:21 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:10:21 -0000 Subject: Peel 400 tapes - 12 (Twelve) NEW SHOWS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks, Bill! Will sort out the Wiki stuff if no one else does, although can't do it immediately as I've got a few work things pressing in on me for the next few days, starting from when I finish my breakfast in a minute. If someone else could do the honours... Cheers, Steve PS That mold looks a bit unpleasant. From k.j.beech@... Sun Oct 26 10:55:41 2008 From: k.j.beech@... (bty455834) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:55:41 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi karl/steve not sure if links still work?? http://rapidshare.com/files/112202361/tape5a.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/112253812/tape5side1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/112259277/tape5side2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/112272707/tape6side1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/112277055/tape6side2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/112408258/tape7side1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/112413915/tape7side2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/113905809/tape8side1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/113911163/tape8side2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/113918222/tape9side1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/113922372/tape9side2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/129464667/13_14.part1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/129464668/13_14.part2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/129496344/13_14.part4.rar http://rapidshare.com/files/131671901/festive_50_1985_part_1_tape15a_. rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/131676319/festive_50_1985_part_2__tape15b_ .rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/131867420/festive_50_1985_part_3_tape_16a_ .rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/131887699/festive_50_1985_part_4__tape16b_ .rar.html good luck kevin --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Hi Karl, > > This is the kind of thing where I'd like to be able to point you to the Wiki year page for > 1981 and that would be it. Unfortunately, though, 1981 is one of those that's still a work > in progress (it's not the only one). I'll try and get a bit organized on 1981 this upcoming > week. There are a couple of things up there already, so here's the link anyway: > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1981 > > Better news, though, is that there were a big punch of 1981 shows floating around > relatively recently. I think most of these were originally shared via the group earlier this > year (by Kevin/Julian, from memory), although I might be wrong, and many were (also?) up > on John Peel Everyday. > > Think these are mostly from those ones, at least they are what I seem to have ("It Makes > Me Laugh" was a bit more recent): > > 1981-02-16a (New Order, Rezillos sessions) 59:07 > 1981-02-16b (New Order, Rezillos sessions) 1:00:50 > 1981-04-07 (B Movie, Positive Noise) > 1981-04-08 (All singles show) 2:00:14 > 1981-04-09 (Cuban Heels, Glaxo Babies sessions) 2:00:22 > 1981-05-11 (Chefs, Frames sessions) 1:59:57 > 1981-05-12 (Flock Of Seagulls, Ski Patrol sessions) 2:03:09 > 1981-05-13 (Revillos, Department S sessions) 1:58:41 > 1981-05-14 (New Order, Killing Joke sessions) 1:59:16 > 1981-05-16 (It Makes Me Laugh) 43:50 > 1981-05-18 (The Moondogs, Ivor Cutler sessions) 2:00:20 > 1981-05-19 (The Moderates, The Lucys sessions) 1:59:43 > 1981-05-25 (Day after LFC won the European Cup in Paris) 1:33:31 > > If you search the group under the session artist names, you might be able to find some of > these. Links may or may not still be active, but can be re-uploaded if not. Some are also > available at John Horne's "Rewind" page: > http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapesrewound.html > > And one at Gary's successor to the mighty John Peel Everyday: > http://johnpeeldotnet.wordpress.com/downloads/ > > And Fades In Slowly: > http://fadesinslowly.blogspot.com/ > > Good hunting! > > In addition, there the Festive Fifty for that year, which seems to be scattered around > volumes 1 and 2 of the 17 volume dvd compilation available on assorted torrent sources > (thanks to DeeDee). Have a quick Goggle for links. Hopefully, Mic of this list will be > updating the Wiki on this at some point, following his amazing job on 1978, 1979 and > 1981 F50s. > > Finally, think the 400 Box may well be including 1981 shows -- as it's supposed to include > stuff from around five years from 1978. All will doubtless be revealed in the fullness of > time. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > PS On the monetary front, please check the message in the past few days from Rocker re > donations for 400 Box postage. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "egdirdle2001" wrote: > > > > I have very many TDK 120s from Jan 1981 upto about 1987. Unfortunately > > they feature very little of the chat and mainly the music from Peel > > shows. > > > > With my male completist gene working overtime I seem to have worked up > > a soft spot for Peel's 1981 shows. > > > > Are any from 1981 available to download and can I make a monetary > > contribution towards this kind of archive making. Many, many thanks to > > the people who have put up the shows from 1978 and 1979 as well as all > > the others. I really do appreciate this very much indeed. > > > > I really miss him...him and Strummer > > > > Best wishes everyone > > > > Karl > > > From saipanda@... Sun Oct 26 12:30:42 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:30:42 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks for all the links, Kev, And thanks for sharing them all in the first place! I just gave them a quick check and they all seem active except two: http://rapidshare.com/files/129464667/13_14.part1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/129464668/13_14.part2.rar.html Do you or anyone else have any record of which shows were on which tape? Just so I can update the Wiki accordingly without actually downloading all the files all again. I changed all the tags and filenames when I got them to fit in with my own little system. If not, maybe Karl could let us know after he downloads them. Can always reup the two dead links for tapes 13/14 if we know what the shows are and they don't seem to be available elsewhere. Thanks again, Steve W From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Oct 26 12:59:05 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:59:05 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Steve Tape 6 is 1982-09-21, if that's any help. That being the case, I've done the same as you!! Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes.2512) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Many thanks for all the links, Kev, And thanks for sharing them all in the first place! > > I just gave them a quick check and they all seem active except two: > > http://rapidshare.com/files/129464667/13_14.part1.rar.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/129464668/13_14.part2.rar.html > > Do you or anyone else have any record of which shows were on which tape? Just so I can > update the Wiki accordingly without actually downloading all the files all again. I changed all > the tags and filenames when I got them to fit in with my own little system. > > If not, maybe Karl could let us know after he downloads them. > > Can always reup the two dead links for tapes 13/14 if we know what the shows are and they > don't seem to be available elsewhere. > > Thanks again, > > Steve W > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Oct 26 13:02:09 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:02:09 -0000 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? Message-ID: I started this topic last night, but it never appeared, so I'll ask again. Listening to the superb 'Rain Dogs' again got me to wondering whether John was attuned to this music, as I've never heard it in any of the programmes that have survived. Does anybody know one way or the other? Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes.2512) From k.j.beech@... Sun Oct 26 15:17:04 2008 From: k.j.beech@... (bty455834) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:17:04 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi, this was the full index Tape 1 Monday 26th April 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Kan Kan / China Crisis Tape 2 Tuesday 27th April 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Ju-Ju / UB40 Tape 3 Wednesday 28th April 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Bauhaus / The Twinsets Tape 4 Monday 3rd May 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Crabs / Boots For Dancing Tape 5 Tuesday 4th May 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Blue Poland / Micheal Smith Tape 5a Monday 20th September 1982 1 Hr 11:00 - 12:00 Action Packed / Big In Japan Plays Pere Ubu at the wrong speed. Tape 6 Tuesday 21th September 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 March Violets / Apollinaires Tape 7 Wednesday 22nd September 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Tears For Fears / Animal Magic Tape 8 Thursday 23rd September 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Dance Fault / Christians In Search Of Filth Tape 9 Tuesday 12th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Animal Magic / Nightingales Tape 10 Wednesday 13th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Associates / Icon AD Original Tape faulty at start. Tape 11 Thursday 14th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Short Commercial Breaks / Musical Youth Tape 12 Thursday 21st October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Mad Professor / The Outcasts Tape 13 Tuesday 22nd October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Terry & Jerry / The Woodentops Tape 14 Thursday 28th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Higsons / Micheal Smith Tape 15 Monday 16th December 1985 1.5 hrs 10:30 - 12:00 Festive 50 1985 50 - 41 Tape 16 Tuesday 17th December 1985 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Festive 50 1985 40 - 31 Tape 17 Wednesday 25th December 1985 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Festive 50 1985 10 - 1 inc weird session by Elton John -let me know which ones i have lost the links for and will put up again kevin -- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > Many thanks for all the links, Kev, And thanks for sharing them all in the first place! > > I just gave them a quick check and they all seem active except two: > > http://rapidshare.com/files/129464667/13_14.part1.rar.html > http://rapidshare.com/files/129464668/13_14.part2.rar.html > > Do you or anyone else have any record of which shows were on which tape? Just so I can > update the Wiki accordingly without actually downloading all the files all again. I changed all > the tags and filenames when I got them to fit in with my own little system. > > If not, maybe Karl could let us know after he downloads them. > > Can always reup the two dead links for tapes 13/14 if we know what the shows are and they > don't seem to be available elsewhere. > > Thanks again, > > Steve W > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Oct 26 15:39:28 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:39:28 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Kevin Please, please up the links for tapes 10 and 11 as I don't appear to have these shows at all!! And, as Steve says, only tape 13-14 part 4 is working for me (Rapidshare says the others have been deleted due to not being accessed for a long time), so the rest of the tapes for those dates would be welcome too. Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes.2512) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "bty455834" wrote: > > hi, > > this was the full index > > Tape 1 Monday 26th April 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Kan Kan / > China Crisis > Tape 2 Tuesday 27th April 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Ju-Ju / UB40 > > Tape 3 Wednesday 28th April 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Bauhaus / The Twinsets > Tape 4 Monday 3rd May 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Crabs / Boots > For Dancing > Tape 5 Tuesday 4th May 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Blue Poland / > Micheal Smith > Tape 5a Monday 20th September 1982 1 Hr 11:00 - 12:00 > Action Packed / Big In Japan Plays Pere Ubu at the wrong > speed. > Tape 6 Tuesday 21th September 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 March > Violets / Apollinaires > Tape 7 Wednesday 22nd September 1982 2 Hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Tears For Fears / Animal Magic > Tape 8 Thursday 23rd September 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Dance Fault / Christians In Search Of Filth > Tape 9 Tuesday 12th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Animal Magic / Nightingales > Tape 10 Wednesday 13th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Associates / Icon AD Original Tape faulty at start. > Tape 11 Thursday 14th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Short Commercial Breaks / Musical Youth > Tape 12 Thursday 21st October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Mad Professor / The Outcasts > Tape 13 Tuesday 22nd October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 Terry > & Jerry / The Woodentops > Tape 14 Thursday 28th October 1982 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Higsons / Micheal Smith > Tape 15 Monday 16th December 1985 1.5 hrs 10:30 - 12:00 > Festive 50 1985 50 - 41 > Tape 16 Tuesday 17th December 1985 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Festive 50 1985 40 - 31 > Tape 17 Wednesday 25th December 1985 2 hrs 10:00 - 12:00 > Festive 50 1985 10 - 1 inc weird session by Elton John > > -let me know which ones i have lost the links for and will put up > again > kevin > > > -- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > > > Many thanks for all the links, Kev, And thanks for sharing them all > in the first place! > > > > I just gave them a quick check and they all seem active except two: > > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/129464667/13_14.part1.rar.html > > http://rapidshare.com/files/129464668/13_14.part2.rar.html > > > > Do you or anyone else have any record of which shows were on which > tape? Just so I can > > update the Wiki accordingly without actually downloading all the > files all again. I changed all > > the tags and filenames when I got them to fit in with my own little > system. > > > > If not, maybe Karl could let us know after he downloads them. > > > > Can always reup the two dead links for tapes 13/14 if we know what > the shows are and they > > don't seem to be available elsewhere. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Steve W > > > From dunelm@... Sun Oct 26 15:42:46 2008 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:42:46 -0000 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Even at the height of Waits' critical acclaim in the mid-eighties, I never once heard Peel play anything by him. And I get the impression that Peel actively disliked Tom Waits. Although personally I'd agree with you that Rain Dogs is a great record, as is Swordfishtrombones. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > I started this topic last night, but it never appeared, so I'll ask > again. Listening to the superb 'Rain Dogs' again got me to wondering > whether John was attuned to this music, as I've never heard it in any > of the programmes that have survived. Does anybody know one way or the > other? > > Best wishes > Steve (so.it.goes.2512) > From rockerq@... Sun Oct 26 16:01:37 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:01:37 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Peel 1981 Message-ID: > < supposed to include > stuff from around five years from 1978. All will doubtless be revealed in > the fullness of > time.>> > A quick check of the piles of cassettes on my kitchen floor reveals only 12 from the 400 box are from 1981. We are working our way through in chronological order, so I would guess these will be ripped some time in early 2009. Cheers! Rocker > From rockerq@... Sun Oct 26 16:09:51 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:09:51 EDT Subject: [peel] Peel 1981 Message-ID: > < contribution towards this kind of archive making. Many, many thanks to > the people who have put up the shows from 1978 and 1979 as well as all > the others. I really do appreciate this very much indeed.>> > We are seeking contributions towards the costs of ripping the 400 Box cassettes - mainly the cost of sending the cassettes to the people doing the ripping and back to me by secure post. You can pay by Paypal, to my address of rockerq@... - making sure to tell me that its for peel tape postage. Or you can send chqs or postal orders - email me offlist for my details! Cheers! Rocker From roger.carruthers@... Sun Oct 26 16:45:12 2008 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:45:12 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ditto Frank Zappa ? I think I posted the question here once before, but apart from some early Mothers, eg. in the final Perfumed Garden, I don¹t recall ever hearing any Zappa on Peel, which considering his prodigious output, would seem a deliberate omission ­ possibly because John was fond of Beefheart, who fell out with Zappa, or perhaps he couldn¹t quite stomach Zappa¹s famously cynical world view? Can¹t see why he would dislike Tom Waits though, who seems a pretty genial sort of fellow from what I¹ve read... Cheers Roger On 26/10/2008 14:42, "dunelm61" wrote: > > > > Even at the height of Waits' critical acclaim in the mid-eighties, I > never once heard Peel play anything by him. > > And I get the impression that Peel actively disliked Tom Waits. > > Although personally I'd agree with you that Rain Dogs is a great > record, as is Swordfishtrombones. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Steve" > wrote: >> > >> > I started this topic last night, but it never appeared, so I'll ask >> > again. Listening to the superb 'Rain Dogs' again got me to wondering >> > whether John was attuned to this music, as I've never heard it in any >> > of the programmes that have survived. Does anybody know one way or the >> > other? >> > >> > Best wishes >> > Steve (so.it.goes.2512) >> > > > > From mark.whitby2@... Sun Oct 26 17:34:36 2008 From: mark.whitby2@... (Mark Whitby) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:34:36 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? References: Message-ID: For some reason Peel genuinely disliked Tom Waits' music. I recall him playing a track by someone else that was a cover of a Waits song. After playing it, Peel expressed surprise at this, saying he didn't know Waits had it in him. He made other negative comments from time to time too. Mark W ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Carruthers To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? Ditto Frank Zappa ? I think I posted the question here once before, but apart from some early Mothers, eg. in the final Perfumed Garden, I don't recall ever hearing any Zappa on Peel, which considering his prodigious output, would seem a deliberate omission - possibly because John was fond of Beefheart, who fell out with Zappa, or perhaps he couldn't quite stomach Zappa's famously cynical world view? Can't see why he would dislike Tom Waits though, who seems a pretty genial sort of fellow from what I've read... Cheers Roger On 26/10/2008 14:42, "dunelm61" wrote: Even at the height of Waits' critical acclaim in the mid-eighties, I never once heard Peel play anything by him. And I get the impression that Peel actively disliked Tom Waits. Although personally I'd agree with you that Rain Dogs is a great record, as is Swordfishtrombones. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Steve" wrote: > > I started this topic last night, but it never appeared, so I'll ask > again. Listening to the superb 'Rain Dogs' again got me to wondering > whether John was attuned to this music, as I've never heard it in any > of the programmes that have survived. Does anybody know one way or the > other? > > Best wishes > Steve (so.it.goes.2512) > From rockerq@... Sun Oct 26 20:37:29 2008 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:37:29 EDT Subject: [peel] John Peel's Record Box Message-ID: Further to posts a few weeks ago - just seen 7" of The Factory - "Path through a forest" on eBay - it went for £800! Damn! Rocker From bill.spiby@... Sun Oct 26 21:25:11 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:25:11 +0000 Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081026202511.BFZI2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Hi Julian, I've received some recordings from Andy. They do contain the broadcast of the top 3 tracks from the 77 Festive 50 (or at least that's all I've spotted thus far). Will update once I've gone through them. Regards Bill > > From: Julian Porter > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu AM 12:32:42 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > I contacted Andy Smith a long time back and got all his tapes (a mixed bag). These were digitised by my mate�Kev (of this list) but I can't see I have a broadcast copy of the Top 13 for 1977. I do however have the an MP3 of the top 13 tracks, taken from albums/singles. Not sure where that came from. > � > Cheers, > � > Julian > > --- On Wed, 22/10/08, dunelm61 wrote: > > From: dunelm61 > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:38 PM > > > > > > > Althea & Donna did certainly rerecord Uptown Top Ranking at some stage ? > I've heard this rather poor version on a couple of compilation LPs. Why > the song was rerecorded, and where the new version originally appears, > is a mystery to me. > > If memory serves, Calico Suit is the instrumental version of the > original. Does that make sense? > > As regards getting hold of a tape of the 1977 Festive Fifty as > broadcast, at www.rocklist. net/festive50. htm you will see that Andy > Smith (Andymss@aol. com) claims to have a recording of the top thirteen. > I believe that members of this group have tried to get in touch with > Andy but without success. The tape would certainly be worth getting > hold of though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From bill.spiby@... Sun Oct 26 21:36:44 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:36:44 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Editing other =?ISO-8859-1?B?cGVvcGxlknM=?= work / FF79 & 80 questions Message-ID: <20081026203644.CZWO19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Hi Mic, In most cases (Alison for instance) I'm just stating that that's where it was (probably) played from and of course it doesn't matter too much as it's the same as the LP version. I think my Damned examples though may be different recordings (will have to defer to Damned fans on that though). Generally, though it's a tricky question as to whether list from issue actually played, LP or other source or perhaps even most readily available source (ie a best of comp). My preference obviously is for sourcing the actual version played so will always opt for that actually played, but it is purely a personal thing. Bill > > From: "Mic" > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu PM 11:26:50 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: Editing other people�s work / FF79 & 80 questions > > Hi all, > > Thanks for the replies to my questions last week, and apologies for > not replying to your replies sooner. The main reason for my tardiness > is that I was hoping to say something useful like "I've corrected the > entries", but I still haven't managed to finish that... sorry. > > Particular thanks to Ken and Bill for your comments about sessions > and song versions. I've been folding them in, but they've raised a > few more questions... > > Firstly, Ken, you mentioned that the Adam and the Ants session on 29 > December 1980 was a repeat of their second... which turns out to be > from 1978. Is that right? But then again, it looks like their only > later session was in 1979, so what they were doing in the best > sessions of the year, I don't know. > > You also mention, both in your reply and your book, a band called > Misty, who I don't think I'm familiar with. Is that just a different > name for Misty in Roots? > > And Bill, I fear that your work on the 1976 & 77 Fifties means that > I'm going to have to put just a bit more effort into confirming which > versions of songs are being played. Which is a good thing; I'm sure I > can't be alone in seeing your 1976 list and thinking "Ooh, that's > handy, now I know just which tracks I need to track down myself." > > But I'm not quite sure what you're saying about some of these > versions. Take "Alison" in 1978 - are you saying that the single > version is different to the album version, or just that John played > the single? And similar for the others. > > But I guess that begs another question - I've been listing songs with > their source record. Er, that's pretty vague. Maybe an example would > help. I'd say that "Alison" is 'from' 'My Aim Is True', even though > the single was released first, because that was the album the single > was sourced from. Conversely, I'd describe "Watching the Detectives" > as a '7" single', even though it's on the US version of 'My Aim Is > True' and the reissues, and it's on 'The Very Best of', because it > wasn't really *from* any of those albums. Does that make sense? > > So back to the question: Does that seem a sensible way to credit > songs, or would it be better if I credited the actual record that > John (probably) played? > > Right, that's my equivalent of a short memo. Thanks again, everyone. > > Mic. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > > Hi Mic, > > > > These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of > comments: > > > > 1978 > > 37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, > therefore it's the single) > > 34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream > but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) > > 20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible > single version rather than the Sire LP) > > 10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear > the start of Smarter than You coming in) > > > > 1979 > > 22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) > > 16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) > > 02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP > really) > > > > 1980 > > 42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) > > 29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) > > 08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) > > > > I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting > some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. > > > > Kind regards > > Bill > > > > > > From: "Mic" > > > Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [peel] Editing other people's work / FF79 & 80 > questions > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & > listen > > > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there > are > > > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to > take > > > me some time to get there... > > > > > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > > > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising > those > > > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or > technology to > > > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do > something > > > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > > > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > > > > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 � 80 Festive > Fifties, > > > and the associated shows: > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > > > However, other people have been working on those too, so I > thought > > > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > > > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any > comments? > > > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > > > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > > > > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > > > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > > > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > > > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just > quoted > > > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all > his > > > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > > > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so > wish. I > > > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > > > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best > of > > > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the > original > > > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > > > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard > anything > > > from. If that makes sense. > > > > > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, > I've > > > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. > Starting > > > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > > > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > > > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, > so > > > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it > doesn't > > > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have > any > > > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with > run-of- > > > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear > 15 > > > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match > those on > > > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big > clue > > > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > > > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from > other > > > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive > Fifty > > > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I > got > > > the wrong end of the stick here? > > > > > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > > > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) > as > > > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing > to > > > confirm this on the recording � can this be verified in any way? > > > > > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in > here > > > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across > three > > > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > > > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the > Wiki, > > > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of > them's > > > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any > to > > > bring it to someone's attention � I can't see any contact info on > the > > > site. > > > > > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have > a > > > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two > have > > > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think > there's a > > > bit less noise � perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or > do > > > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I > just > > > hearing things? > > > > > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up > of > > > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an > equal > > > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > > > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > > > > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent > compilation 2. > > > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > > > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > > > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > > > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual > tracks � > > > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form � > but > > > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > > > from the shows? > > > > > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks > in > > > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks > everyone > > > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > > > > > Mic. > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From dr_mango2004@... Sun Oct 26 21:44:02 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:44:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 22 August 1978 (new download: 400 box) Message-ID: <659989.44299.qm@...> Another quickie from me - just one more to go now. This is the last 25 mins of the show from Tuesday 22 August 1978. It features repeat sessions from the Lurkers and Alternative TV (you get a track apiece). Note that other sections of this show - hopefully all of it - are in the 400 box (namely T023 and T024) but have yet to be shared, according to the wiki. So I've added "incomplete" to the filename as a marker, as a more complete mp3 should appear in the future. File length: 24:11 (128 kbps mono mp3). File size: 22.14 MB Download: http://sharebee.com/cfee502f Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/22_August_1978 Dr M. From bill.spiby@... Sun Oct 26 21:54:20 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:54:20 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081026205420.DFDT19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Hi Martin, I've noted all those points. Many thanks. Nobody Go Run Me is a 76 release as far as I can tell for both the single and the Ghetto Vibes LP. There is a 12" of Waiting in Vain that seems to consist of WIV and another track on side 1 and a 4 track mix on side 2. I've been unable to get a release date or track length for this though. The 7" though runs 4.00 but the LP runs up to 4.16 (seen variety of times). Regards Bill > > From: Martin Wheatley > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu PM 11:37:56 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very > slight exaggeration)) > > > > This'll be a lengthy one as it's the reply to your list > As far as I'm aware there were no session tracks this early in the Festive > Fifties so you can eliminate those > > > > > > > > > > John Peel Festive 50 1977 (Forgotten 50 or 61 to be precise) > > > > 1 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away > > > > Probably played single (3.13) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > > > 2 Althea & Donna � Uptown Top Ranking > > > > I think JP could only have played single, although despite its > > > > megahit status I can't find a pre-early 78 release for it. Anyone > > > > help with details about this one? > > We've covered this!!!! > > > > > > > > > > 3 The Motors � You Beat the Hell Out of Me > > > > Probably B side of Be What You Gotta Be single (2.50) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 4 The Rezillos � I Can't Stand My Baby > > > > Had to be the single (2.35) > > > > > > > > 5 John Cooper Clarke � Suspended Sentence > > > > Had to be the single > > > > > > > > 6 Desperate Bicycles � Smokescreen > > > > Had to be the single (2.03) > > > > > > > > 7 Merlene Webber � Right Track > > > > Can't find a pre-1978 release for this, so was JP playing it from a > > > > promo copy of MW's On the Right Track LP (2.45)? > It would be from the Jamaican pre of the > single The pre would always be earlier > than any UK release > > > > > > > > > 8 Neil Young � Like a Hurricane > > > > Probably full length version from American Stars `n' Bars LP (8.14). > > > > This is the version he plays in 1978's chart. > > > > Eligible: Single (5.24) > > > > > > > > 9 The Clash � Complete Control > > > > Had to be single (3.10) > > > > > > > > 10 Frankie Miller � Be Good to Yourself > > > > I'm guessing single and Full House LP version are the same (2.56) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 11 The Sex Pistols � Holidays in the Sun > > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > > > 12 The Lurkers � Shadow > > > > Had to be single > > > > > > > > 13 J. Ayes and Ranking Trevor � Truly > > > > These reggae releases are never simple, are they? Think this one was > > > > originally a 1974 single release but was released as a 12" in 1977. > > > > It would seem likely that the '77 version is what was played although > > > > technically one could call the '74 version eligible as well. Is the > > > > Disco Mix and the 12" mix one and the same? If not, when was Disco > > > > Mix released? > > If it has the singer and the toaster on it it's probably the 12" > > > > > > > > > 14 Pink Floyd � Pigs > > > > Would seem likely to be Pigs (Three Different Ones) (11.28) from > > > > Animals LP, but any thoughts on eligibility of Pigs on the Wing 1 > > > > (1.24) and Pigs on the Wing 2 (1.27) from the same? And if you accept > > > > those then that also has to be extended to Pigs on the Wing (8 track > > > > version) (3.26) > > > > > > > > > 15 Johnny Moped � Incendiary Device > > > > Had to be B side of No One single (2.06) > > > > > > > > 16 Some Chicken � New Religion > > > > Had to be Single (2.17) > > > > > > > > 17 Culture � See Them Come > > > > Tentative guess that it was Two Sevens Clash LP (3.24) version. Is > > > > the Jah Jah See Them A Come single version the same as LP? Other > > > > contenders See Dem A Come 12" (6.56) and See Dem Dub (3.58). Can > > > > anyone confirm whether the last 3 versions were '77 releases? > Again probably from a Jamaican pre single > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 The Motors � Emergency > > > > Had to be session > > From the album I would have thought > > > > > > > > > > 19 The Yobs � The Worm Song > > > > Had to be B side of Run Rudolph Run single (The Yobs are actually The > > > > Boys by the way for those who didn't know (i.e. me)) > > > > > > > > 20 The Boys � Box Number > > > > Probably played The Boys LP (2.33) version sometimes titled Box > > > > Number 939 > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 21 The Stranglers � London Lady > > > > Think B side of (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) single is same as Rattus > > > > Norvegicus LP (2.25). Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > 22 Sham 69 � I Don't Wanna > > > > Had to be single (1.46) > > > > > > > > 23 The Ramones � Pinhead > > > > Think B side of Swallow My Pride single is same as Leave Home LP > > > > (2.42) version. Anyone? > > > > > > > > 24 Jah Woosh � Freedom Connection > > > > Another funny one because as far as I can tell it wasn't available at > > > > all until 1978, so JP must have been playing promo 12". Anyone got > > > > any further info on this one? > > Again probably the Jamican pre single so UK release dates would be irrelevant > > > > > > > > > > 25 Status Quo � Can't Give You More > > > > Had to be from Rockin' All Over the World LP (4.15) > > > > > > > > 26 Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer � Blue Wind > > > > Well it has to be live version on Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group > > > > Live (5.47) LP but I have various running times for this. Is it case > > > > of later CD releases not fading the original recording session take > > > > as early? > > Running times can be confusing because it depends whether you time from > beginning to the end of the track or beginning of > the track to the beginning of > the next one. The later (which is surprisingly common can lead to a > variety of different timings for the same > thing). I've discovered this the hard way > when digitising my records! > > > > > > > > > > 27 The Clash � White Riot > > > > I'm going for the The Clash LP (1.56) version over the single (2.01) > > > > but it's a fairly arbitrary guess. Future 50's are not particularly > > > > helpful as JP seemed to alternate between the two. > > > > > > On punk singles my instinct is that Peel would go for the single but > it goes to show you never can tell - to coin a phrase! > > > > > > 28 Iggy Pop � Success > > > > I'm assuming Lust for Life LP version (4.23) and Lust for Life single > > > > B side are the same despite different spelling `Succes'. Anyone? > > > > > > > > 29 Generation X � Your Generation > > > > Going for the single (3.11) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 30 King Short Shirt � Nobody Go Run Me > > > > Guessing single is the same as Ghetto Vibes LP (5.00). Anyone? > Could be either a pre or the album because I have > a feeling this actually an older track > > > > > > > > > > > 31 The Lurkers � Love Story > > > > Had to be B side of Shadow single > > > > > > > > 32 Bob Marley & The Wailers � Waiting in Vain > > > > Think single and Exodus LP version are the same (4.03). Anyone? > > > > > > Was there a long 12"? > > > > > > 33 Dr Feelgood � Paradise > > > > Had to be Sneakin' Suspicion LP version (4.06) > > > > > > > > 34 Five Hand Reel � Cruel Brother > > > > Well given that it's listed as by Five Hand Reel, then it's got to be > > > > For A' That LP version (5.37). However, Dick Gaughan did release solo > > > > version (earlier the same year I think) on Sandy Bell's Ceilidh LP, > > > > so arguably this is eligible > > No way the 2 could be confused > > > > > > > > > 35 The Saints � I'm Stranded > > > > Think single, split EP and I'm Stranded LP versions are the same > > > > (3.25). Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > 36 David Bowie � "Heroes" > > > > Oh! David. What are you doing to me? Going for the "Heroes" LP > > > > version (6.07) as played in '78 rundown > > > > Eligible: Single edit (3.32) > > > > French language single edit "Heros" > > > > German language single edit "Helden" > > > > English/French hybrid full length version > > > > English/German hybrid full length version > > > > Can anyone confirm release date for the last 2 versions? > > > > > > > > 37 The Users � Sick on You > > > > Had to be single (3.20) > > > > > > > > 38 X Ray Spex � Oh Bondage Up Yours! > > > > Going for the single (2.45) > > > > Eligible: Live version on Live at the Roxy WC2 > Definitely the single > > > > > > > > > 39 The Boomtown Rats � Lookin' After Number 1 > > > > Think probably played single and that The Boomtown Rats LP version is > > > > the same (3.06). Anyone? > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > > > 40 June Tabor � No Man's Land > > > > Probably played Ashes and Diamond LP version (7.40) > > > > Eligible: Session > The album version > > > > > > > > > 41 The Damned � Neat Neat Neat > > > > Think single, New Rose 12" and Damned Damned Damned LP versions are > > > > identical (2.46). Anyone? > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 42 Ry Cooder � The Dark End of the Street > > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) although released in 1972! > Song and artist were favourites of Andy Kershaw so probably introduced > to Peel by him > > > > > > > > > > > 43 Suburban Studs � Questions > > > > Had to be single (2.57) > > > > > > > > 44 Elizabeth Archer & the Equators � Feel Like Making Love > > > > Going for the single > > > > Eligible: B side `Version' > > > > 12" was this released in '77 though? > > > > > > > > 45 Dave Edmunds � I Knew the Bride > > > > Think single and Get It LP version are identical (2.57). Anyone? > > > > Eligible: Session as David Edmund's Rockpile > > > > > > > > 46 The Jam � Away from the Numbers > > > > Had to be from In the City LP (4.03) > > > > > > > > 47 Wreckless Eric � (I'd Go the) Whole Wide World > > > > Probably played single > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 48 Roy Buchanan � Green Onions > > > > Probably from Loading Zone LP. Was US Single same version? > > > > > > > > 49 Generation X � Wild Dub (Version) > > > > Had to be B side of Wild Youth single (3.47). Any thoughts on > > > > eligibility of A side? > > > > > > > > 50 Snatch � I.R.T. > > > > B side of Stanley single. Was reissued later that year A side (think > > > > it's the same version � can anyone confirm?) > I think the Snatch tracks ssued in different pairings in the US > and that's what Peel played > > > > > > > > > 51 The Sex Pistols � Pretty Vacant > > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.15) > > > > > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers � John Willie's Ferret > > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > Another Kershaw special! > > > > > > > > > 53 Peter Tosh � Stepping Razor > > > > Think this had to be from Equal Rights LP (5.45). Anyone help? > > > > > > Again - maybe from a Jamaican pre > > > > > > 54 The Clash � Capital Radio > > > > Had to be from Capital Radio EP (2.09) (i.e. Capital Radio One > > > > version) > > > > > > > > 55 Elvis Costello and The Attractions � Watching the Detectives > > > > Had to be single (3.43) > > > > > > > > 56 The Motors � Bringing in the Morning Light > > > > Had to be session > > > > > > Again it's on the first album in 1977 > > > > > > 57 Eddie & The Hot Rods � Beginning of the End > > > > Probably played from Life on the Line LP (8.18) > > > > Eligible: Session > > > > > > > > 58 Devo � Jocko Homo > > > > Had to be B side of Mongoloid single (3.15) > > > > > > > > 59 The Buzzcocks � Whatever Happened To...? > > > > Had to be B side of Orgasm Addict single (2.08) > > > > > > > > 60 Little Feat � Rocket in My Pocket > > > > Had to be from LP Time Loves a Hero 3.25 > > > > > > > > 61 The Sex Pistols � God Save the Queen > > > > Single and Never Mind The Bollocks version are identical (3.20) > > > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > > > > Regards > > > > Bill Spiby > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From bill.spiby@... Sun Oct 26 21:55:44 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:55:44 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Editing other =?ISO-8859-1?B?cGVvcGxlknM=?= work / FF79 & 80 questions Message-ID: <20081026205544.BPXT2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Can we put Ken forward for an OBE? Does anyone know the mechanism to do this? > I dread admitting this, but I feel I should try to put you out of your misery: I do have the > PasBs for those 77 F50 shows somewhere (my box files stop in June 78). If I get an hour or > two over the weekend I'll see if I can find them and scan them... > > k > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Mic" wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the replies to my questions last week, and apologies for > > not replying to your replies sooner. The main reason for my tardiness > > is that I was hoping to say something useful like "I've corrected the > > entries", but I still haven't managed to finish that... sorry. > > > > Particular thanks to Ken and Bill for your comments about sessions > > and song versions. I've been folding them in, but they've raised a > > few more questions... > > > > Firstly, Ken, you mentioned that the Adam and the Ants session on 29 > > December 1980 was a repeat of their second... which turns out to be > > from 1978. Is that right? But then again, it looks like their only > > later session was in 1979, so what they were doing in the best > > sessions of the year, I don't know. > > > > You also mention, both in your reply and your book, a band called > > Misty, who I don't think I'm familiar with. Is that just a different > > name for Misty in Roots? > > > > And Bill, I fear that your work on the 1976 & 77 Fifties means that > > I'm going to have to put just a bit more effort into confirming which > > versions of songs are being played. Which is a good thing; I'm sure I > > can't be alone in seeing your 1976 list and thinking "Ooh, that's > > handy, now I know just which tracks I need to track down myself." > > > > But I'm not quite sure what you're saying about some of these > > versions. Take "Alison" in 1978 - are you saying that the single > > version is different to the album version, or just that John played > > the single? And similar for the others. > > > > But I guess that begs another question - I've been listing songs with > > their source record. Er, that's pretty vague. Maybe an example would > > help. I'd say that "Alison" is 'from' 'My Aim Is True', even though > > the single was released first, because that was the album the single > > was sourced from. Conversely, I'd describe "Watching the Detectives" > > as a '7" single', even though it's on the US version of 'My Aim Is > > True' and the reissues, and it's on 'The Very Best of', because it > > wasn't really *from* any of those albums. Does that make sense? > > > > So back to the question: Does that seem a sensible way to credit > > songs, or would it be better if I credited the actual record that > > John (probably) played? > > > > Right, that's my equivalent of a short memo. Thanks again, everyone. > > > > Mic. > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > > > > Hi Mic, > > > > > > These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of > > comments: > > > > > > 1978 > > > 37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, > > therefore it's the single) > > > 34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream > > but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) > > > 20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible > > single version rather than the Sire LP) > > > 10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear > > the start of Smarter than You coming in) > > > > > > 1979 > > > 22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) > > > 16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) > > > 02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP > > really) > > > > > > 1980 > > > 42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) > > > 29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) > > > 08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) > > > > > > I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting > > some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Bill > > > > > > > > From: "Mic" > > > > Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST > > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [peel] Editing other people's work / FF79 & 80 > > questions > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & > > listen > > > > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there > > are > > > > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to > > take > > > > me some time to get there... > > > > > > > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > > > > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising > > those > > > > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or > > technology to > > > > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do > > something > > > > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > > > > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > > > > > > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 � 80 Festive > > Fifties, > > > > and the associated shows: > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > > > > However, other people have been working on those too, so I > > thought > > > > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > > > > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any > > comments? > > > > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > > > > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > > > > > > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > > > > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > > > > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > > > > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just > > quoted > > > > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all > > his > > > > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > > > > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so > > wish. I > > > > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > > > > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best > > of > > > > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the > > original > > > > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > > > > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard > > anything > > > > from. If that makes sense. > > > > > > > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, > > I've > > > > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. > > Starting > > > > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > > > > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > > > > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, > > so > > > > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it > > doesn't > > > > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have > > any > > > > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with > > run-of- > > > > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear > > 15 > > > > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match > > those on > > > > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big > > clue > > > > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > > > > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from > > other > > > > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive > > Fifty > > > > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I > > got > > > > the wrong end of the stick here? > > > > > > > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > > > > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) > > as > > > > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing > > to > > > > confirm this on the recording � can this be verified in any way? > > > > > > > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in > > here > > > > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across > > three > > > > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > > > > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the > > Wiki, > > > > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of > > them's > > > > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any > > to > > > > bring it to someone's attention � I can't see any contact info on > > the > > > > site. > > > > > > > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have > > a > > > > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two > > have > > > > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think > > there's a > > > > bit less noise � perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or > > do > > > > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I > > just > > > > hearing things? > > > > > > > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up > > of > > > > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an > > equal > > > > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > > > > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > > > > > > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent > > compilation 2. > > > > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > > > > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > > > > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > > > > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual > > tracks � > > > > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form � > > but > > > > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > > > > from the shows? > > > > > > > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks > > in > > > > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks > > everyone > > > > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > > > > > > > Mic. > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From bill.spiby@... Sun Oct 26 22:03:04 2008 From: bill.spiby@... (bill.spiby@...) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:03:04 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) Message-ID: <20081026210304.DHYK19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Had a lovely phone call from John Howarth of Oldham Tinkers fame. He confirmed that it would had to have been the Sit Thee Down LP version and that that is the same version that is contained on the Andy Kershaw selected compilation CD The Fine Old English Gentleman. Interestingly, he confirmed that in the 70s they did several sessions for Peel although paperwork would only seem to exist for the one listed in Ken's book. The sessions were recorded in Strawberry Studios in Stockport and mailed up to Peel. Regards Bill > > From: Jimmy Stepek > Date: 2008/10/24 Fri AM 10:42:22 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > > 42 Ry Cooder ? The Dark End of the Street > > > > > Probably Live version on Show Time (Chicken > > Skin Revue) (6.43) > > > > > Eligible (ish): Boomer's Story LP (3.25) > > although released in 1972! > > Song and artist were favourites of Andy Kershaw so probably > > introduced > > to Peel by him > > > > > > > 52 The Oldham Tinkers ? John Willie's > > Ferret > > > > > Had to be from Sit Thee Down LP > > Another Kershaw special! > > I'm sorry Martin but I cannae let you away with these two! It was probably the other way around, Peel converting Kershaw. Peel was well familiar with Ry Cooder's work, all the way back to his Beefheart days. He was also fond of playing the odd old-time folkie as well...... > > Cheers......Jimmy > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From thebarguest@... Sun Oct 26 22:25:47 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:25:47 -0000 Subject: John Peel's Record Box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So much for the media-obsessed "recession" ! I bet the winner will be "a bit" anxious just before he/she lowers the stylus onto the groove for the first time (scratches, pops, clicks, aaagghhh...... - I want me money back). --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > Further to posts a few weeks ago - just seen 7" of The Factory - "Path > through a forest" on eBay - it went for £800! > > Damn! > > Rocker > From thebarguest@... Sun Oct 26 22:32:07 2008 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:32:07 -0000 Subject: Peel 400 tapes - 12 (Twelve) NEW SHOWS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Played a bit of a 79 show and it sounds very good. Well done and thanks ; the fruits of your labour will no doubt be listened to for many years to come.... Good mono is better than poor stereo in my book ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "billfromnorthwales" wrote: > > OK, Ive just finished digitising my second lot of tapes, and a real > challenge they were too, with all the problems that Roger describes, > and more.... > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/message/8086 > > Here is a picture of the mould > > http://tiny.cc/vwtlD > > > OK, OK quit your jibba jabbin' and give us the shows... > > Here they are with some others, go fetch... > > http://www.mediafire.com/Peel400 > > > If you want some details, or show by show: > > 11 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2zbnmdxrymi > Tracklist > http://tiny.cc/5RxGI > > 18 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dnk5m3zw4jd > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/1Ozzc > http://tiny.cc/RoQeM > > 20 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mrw2gdmdjdn > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/iM0LS > http://tiny.cc/p7uup > > 23 Oct 1978 (Full) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n22lgdzimnm > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/Qa5VK > http://tiny.cc/wsWJK > > 25 Oct 1978 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mdyzizawmm2 > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/wsWJK > http://tiny.cc/BKGs0 > http://tiny.cc/BMCa6 > > 2 Nov 1978 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?a1mciiymwei > Tracklist > http://tiny.cc/l69TO > > 7 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zmmgfzytft0 > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/ucC7w > http://tiny.cc/CoSS6 > > 9 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yznmnyhvkmn > > 13 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i2ydyzyjwel > > 15 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gdj2qmwjkwm > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/lBfU8 > http://tiny.cc/pj1C6 > > 16 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mjz2kgmmm1u > Tracklists > http://tiny.cc/pj1C6 > http://tiny.cc/B0SpM > http://tiny.cc/S6QAt > > 20 Aug 1979 (Incomplete) > http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ywzzmtd0ngz > > > These are on the way to Rocker on a DVD. I will await Batch 3 > > How do these sound?? > > Well pretty poor, actually. The 1978 shows are AM, and the 1979 shows > are FM mono but actually gettting many of the tapes to play through > was very difficult. > > I used 4 different tape decks, and transferred casing, rollers pads, > in a couple of cases EVERTHING (even leader tape) except the actual > magnetic tape itself. > > > > CAN I ASK 2 FAVOURS PLEASE!!!!! > > 1> Would someone please update the WIKI thing because that is not my > speciality > > 2> Can I ask for all the 400 shows to be put on to Mediafire. > http://www.mediafire.com/ > > At 112 kbs mono MP3 the file size will be under the 100 meg limit, so > we will have a single location for all 400 box shows. > > As soon as it is on Mediafire, I can instantly add it to > http://www.mediafire.com/Peel400 > > > Cheers to everyone else who is uploading stuff > > Bill > From penarth2002@... Sun Oct 26 23:37:37 2008 From: penarth2002@... (egdirdle2001) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:37:37 -0000 Subject: Peel 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Remarkable... I'm so grateful to you guys. I guess you don't have young kids right. Just wish I could find the time to get some serious anoraking in myself. From ken_garner@... Sun Oct 26 23:41:50 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:41:50 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:__Editing_other_people=92s_work_/_FF79_&_80_questions?= In-Reply-To: <20081026205544.BPXT2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: sorry, too tired to search for these over the past two days. Give me another week or two. And I have my reward already, on page 284 of THE OLIVETTI CHRONICLES, something I was not expecting at all. Re: the Oldham Tinkers, I have read every regular Peel programme script up to Summer 1978 and Oldham Tinkers only were documented as appearing the once as a session. Unless they appeared on other irregular shows (eg Rock On, Peel's Pleasures) with new sessions, that is... but I think not. If the band have details of any others, I'd be happy to investigate. The Strawberry Studios recording location info is useful, thanks k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Can we put Ken forward for an OBE? > Does anyone know the mechanism to do this? > > > I dread admitting this, but I feel I should try to put you out of your misery: I do have the > > PasBs for those 77 F50 shows somewhere (my box files stop in June 78). If I get an hour or > > two over the weekend I'll see if I can find them and scan them... > > > > k > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Mic" wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Thanks for the replies to my questions last week, and apologies for > > > not replying to your replies sooner. The main reason for my tardiness > > > is that I was hoping to say something useful like "I've corrected the > > > entries", but I still haven't managed to finish that... sorry. > > > > > > Particular thanks to Ken and Bill for your comments about sessions > > > and song versions. I've been folding them in, but they've raised a > > > few more questions... > > > > > > Firstly, Ken, you mentioned that the Adam and the Ants session on 29 > > > December 1980 was a repeat of their second... which turns out to be > > > from 1978. Is that right? But then again, it looks like their only > > > later session was in 1979, so what they were doing in the best > > > sessions of the year, I don't know. > > > > > > You also mention, both in your reply and your book, a band called > > > Misty, who I don't think I'm familiar with. Is that just a different > > > name for Misty in Roots? > > > > > > And Bill, I fear that your work on the 1976 & 77 Fifties means that > > > I'm going to have to put just a bit more effort into confirming which > > > versions of songs are being played. Which is a good thing; I'm sure I > > > can't be alone in seeing your 1976 list and thinking "Ooh, that's > > > handy, now I know just which tracks I need to track down myself." > > > > > > But I'm not quite sure what you're saying about some of these > > > versions. Take "Alison" in 1978 - are you saying that the single > > > version is different to the album version, or just that John played > > > the single? And similar for the others. > > > > > > But I guess that begs another question - I've been listing songs with > > > their source record. Er, that's pretty vague. Maybe an example would > > > help. I'd say that "Alison" is 'from' 'My Aim Is True', even though > > > the single was released first, because that was the album the single > > > was sourced from. Conversely, I'd describe "Watching the Detectives" > > > as a '7" single', even though it's on the US version of 'My Aim Is > > > True' and the reissues, and it's on 'The Very Best of', because it > > > wasn't really *from* any of those albums. Does that make sense? > > > > > > So back to the question: Does that seem a sensible way to credit > > > songs, or would it be better if I credited the actual record that > > > John (probably) played? > > > > > > Right, that's my equivalent of a short memo. Thanks again, everyone. > > > > > > Mic. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Mic, > > > > > > > > These pages are absolutely brill. Well done. Just a couple of > > > comments: > > > > > > > > 1978 > > > > 37 Elvis Costello - Alison (JP plays it from Stiff BUY 14, > > > therefore it's the single) > > > > 34 Siouxsie & The Banshees - Helter Skelter (it was from The Scream > > > but obviously pre-edited to remove the swearing) > > > > 20 The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby (I think it's the Sensible > > > single version rather than the Sire LP) > > > > 10 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (played from the EP (you can hear > > > the start of Smarter than You coming in) > > > > > > > > 1979 > > > > 22 The Damned - Love Song (sound like it's played from the single) > > > > 16 Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant (John sorta infers it's the single) > > > > 02 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks (I reckon it would be the EP > > > really) > > > > > > > > 1980 > > > > 42 The Damned - Smash it Up (sounds like the single to me) > > > > 29 The Damned - Love Song (again I think it's the single) > > > > 08 The Damned - New Rose (ditto) > > > > > > > > I'm really looking forward to future installments. Will be posting > > > some observations myself this week on the 1977 Forgotten Fifty. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mic" > > > > > Date: 2008/10/16 Thu AM 12:51:15 BST > > > > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [peel] Editing other people's work / FF79 & 80 > > > questions > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here and I've joined up pretty much to get hold of & > > > listen > > > > > to Festive Fifties. Well, to start with anyway; I'm sure there > > > are > > > > > many, many great John Peel shows out there, it's just going to > > > take > > > > > me some time to get there... > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, while I'm here, I thought I'd try and help out so as > > > > > to `repay' those people who've been cataloguing and digitising > > > those > > > > > shows. Unfortunately, I don't really have the skills or > > > technology to > > > > > assist with recording or anything, but I thought I might do > > > something > > > > > I was going to do anyway: listen to the Festive Fifties. Oh, and > > > > > while I'm doing that, I can make notes for the Peel Wiki. > > > > > > > > > > So I've done a few pages of that, for the 78 – 80 Festive > > > Fifties, > > > > > and the associated shows: > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1979_Festive_fifty > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Festive_Fifty > > > > > However, other people have been working on those too, so I > > > thought > > > > > I'd draw attention to what I've been doing here. Rather than just > > > > > editing their work and running away. Does anyone have any > > > comments? > > > > > I've tried not to actually delete anything that's been previously > > > > > added, but my stuff's easily revertible if you want. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone any thoughts on what I've said, either? Too much > > > > > information? Too little? Since I'm not an expert on John Peel, or > > > > > music of the period or anything, I've tended to stick to `facts'; > > > > > that is, I haven't really commented on mood or feel, I've just > > > quoted > > > > > what John actually said in places. And rather than sticking all > > > his > > > > > comments at the top of the page, I've tended to list them in the > > > > > tracklisting, so that people can find them easily if they so > > > wish. I > > > > > also haven't really said anything about the details of Peel > > > > > sessions... the shows I've been listening to have all been "best > > > of > > > > > the year" shows, so it makes sense to me to just link to the > > > original > > > > > show... however, many of the shows aren't on the Wiki yet, but I > > > > > don't really feel right writing about shows I haven't heard > > > anything > > > > > from. If that makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone's still reading after that rather lengthy preamble, > > > I've > > > > > also got a few questions about the 79 & 80 Festive Fifties. > > > Starting > > > > > from the top, I was wondering about the various 1979 recordings > > > > > available. For a start, I'm rather confused about the top 10 mp3 > > > > > mentioned on the 1979 page itself. Now, as I said, I'm new here, > > > so > > > > > I've probably missed lots of talk about this already, but it > > > doesn't > > > > > sound like a top 10 mp3 at all to me. Once again, I don't have > > > any > > > > > fancy technology, I've just been listening to it on my PC with > > > run-of- > > > > > the-mill headphones, so I may be wrong, but I reckon I can hear > > > 15 > > > > > separate edits in it. And the between-song links don't match > > > those on > > > > > the other compilations mentioned on the page. And the other big > > > clue > > > > > is that "White Riot" wasn't actually in the 1979 top 10. So this > > > > > actually sounds to me like a reconstruction of the top 10 from > > > other > > > > > Peel shows and John's countdown towards the end of the Festive > > > Fifty > > > > > (between #2 & 3 and skipped in the other recording). Or have I > > > got > > > > > the wrong end of the stick here? > > > > > > > > > > Next, a question about the 24th December show from 1979. I've got > > > > > this from torrent compilation 8 where it's labelled (three times) > > > as > > > > > being the 24/12 show. However, it struck me that there's nothing > > > to > > > > > confirm this on the recording – can this be verified in any way? > > > > > > > > > > Finally, we have the 1980 shows, and what I'm most interested in > > > here > > > > > is the provenance of the various recordings. I've come across > > > three > > > > > sets of recordings, all of them only of the countdown part of the > > > > > shows. Firstly there are the 30242b recordings. As I say on the > > > Wiki, > > > > > these are mistagged, but that's not a problem. Also, one of > > > them's > > > > > missing from the website, and this seems as good a place as any > > > to > > > > > bring it to someone's attention – I can't see any contact info on > > > the > > > > > site. > > > > > > > > > > Next there's the set on torrent compilation 1. I think these have > > > a > > > > > better sound quality, but I'm not entirely sure. The first two > > > have > > > > > identical content to the first two from 30242b, but I think > > > there's a > > > > > bit less noise – perhaps these are earlier generation tapes, or > > > do > > > > > people think they've just been digitised differently? Or am I > > > just > > > > > hearing things? > > > > > > > > > > Confusingly, the third mp3 from the torrent seems to be made up > > > of > > > > > the third & fourth from 30242b, thus suggesting that that is an > > > equal > > > > > or later generation tape. Or perhaps the same tape, digitised in > > > > > different ways? Could anyone throw any light on that for me? > > > > > > > > > > And after all that, there's yet another set on torrent > > > compilation 2. > > > > > These are individual mp3s, they only start from #40, and for some > > > > > reason #7 is missing (the replacement is tagged with "a stretch > > > > > mark"), but they sound to me like the best set of recordings. No > > > > > offense to whoever took the effort split them into individual > > > tracks – > > > > > it's very well done, and quite handy to have them in that form – > > > but > > > > > does anyone know if this recording is available as whole segments > > > > > from the shows? > > > > > > > > > > That's it for now. Thanks for reading my huge spiel, and thanks > > > in > > > > > advance for any answers you may have. And, of course, thanks > > > everyone > > > > > who's been recording and keeping records of these shows. > > > > > > > > > > Mic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > From saipanda@... Fri Oct 24 13:04:37 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:04:37 -0000 Subject: 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to pull a few things out of this thread: 1. Julian thinks he has an mp3 of the top 13 tracks. 2. Bill has "hopefully got recordings of portions of two 77 FF shows winging their way to me in the post." 3. Ken is going to root around for the show transcripts. Sounds like it might be a bit of a result on the holy grail front. Here's hoping. Cheers, Steve W From dr_mango2004@... Mon Oct 27 00:25:58 2008 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:25:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: 30 April 1979 (new download: 400 box) Message-ID: <916485.39907.qm@...> The final "shortie" from me. This is the start of the show from Monday 30 April 1979. It features the debut session from Shake (featuring ex-members of the Rezillos) and a repeat session from the Neon Hearts. This is only the first 31 mins of the show; in a quirk of the draw, Roger C has the tape with the remainder of the show to rip. When all the segments are returned to Rocker, I expect a full(er) show mp3 to emerge, but I thought I'd share this one out anyway. File length: 31:17 (128 kbps mono mp3). File size: 28.6 MB Download: http://sharebee.com/f523d527 Wiki page: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/30_April_1979 Dr M. From parkermike81@... Sat Oct 25 16:37:48 2008 From: parkermike81@... (parkermike81) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:37:48 -0000 Subject: best of peel vol 9 Message-ID: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8qt6rbx7 sorry folks try this[thanks steve] From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Oct 25 20:33:06 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:33:06 -0000 Subject: Did JP ever play Tom Waits? Message-ID: I was just listening to the excellent 'Rain Dogs' again, and wonder if Tom's quirky style appealed to John. Of all the tapes that I've heard of Peel's shows, Waits' music seems to have been completely avoided. Any ideas? Best wishes Steve [Teenage Kicks, but I don't know for how much longer] From her_thing@... Mon Oct 27 03:04:26 2008 From: her_thing@... (her_thing) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:04:26 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > <> > > > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? > > Confused... > > Rocker > The 4-Skins session was recorded for Peel just before Southall but not broadcast (due to the controversy surrounding the band + Oi! in general for a while afterwards). Peel also appeared on a Nationwide feature defending the band soon after. It subsequently became something of a 'holy grail' among Oi!/streetpunk collectors + Mark at Captain Oi! eventually licensed the session off the BBC a few years back, along with a load of other Oi! and punk sessions, hence it appearing on the 'Secret Life' CD. From 1bob_hall@... Mon Oct 27 03:21:10 2008 From: 1bob_hall@... (ROBERT HALL) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:21:10 -0500 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? Message-ID: I seem to remember a girl writing into the show asking Peel's advice about a boy she liked, who was a Waits and a Springsteen fan. His answer was short and sweet 'ditch him'. From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Oct 27 04:43:38 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:43:38 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear 'her' Thank you for finally clearing this up: though I'd be interested to know where you got your information from, there does seem to be some precedent for this. It opens up a new area of investigation: which bands recorded sessions that were never broadcast? I can think of at least three instances, and I'd be grateful if anybody else could add to this: 1. The Clash abandoned their session midway through the recording, stating that the BBC's equipment was not up to scratch (Peel adding that, in his opinion, they were so out of their heads that they couldn't continue). However, it has been said (I can't remember where) that they got as far as making the backing tracks. I wonder if these survive. 2. The Pogues' first session (when they were still known as 'Pogue Mahone', Irish Gaelic for 'kiss my arse') featured an extra track, 'The Boys From County Hell', which wasn't broadcast apparently as a result of the prodigious amount of swearing therein (even though I recall Magazine's 'Permafrost', with the line 'I will drug you and fuck you on the permafrost', being broadcast unedited years previously, with Peel adding 'There's a naughty word in this one' beforehand). 3. Morrissey's first solo session, 'inevitably tentative' as John said, was not broadcast at the singer's own request. Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes.2512) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "her_thing" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > < Skins>> > > > > > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? > > > > Confused... > > > > Rocker > > > > The 4-Skins session was recorded for Peel just before Southall but not > broadcast (due to the controversy surrounding the band + Oi! in general > for a while afterwards). Peel also appeared on a Nationwide feature > defending the band soon after. It subsequently became something of > a 'holy grail' among Oi!/streetpunk collectors + Mark at Captain Oi! > eventually licensed the session off the BBC a few years back, along > with a load of other Oi! and punk sessions, hence it appearing on > the 'Secret Life' CD. > From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Oct 27 04:53:21 2008 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:53:21 -0000 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Robert Nice one, don't know about 'sweet'!, but it certainly sounds like John. JP's dislike of Springsteen is well-documented (his diary refers to Jon Landau's review stating that Springsteen was the future of rock'n'roll: after seeing him in concert, Peel concluded that he was 'more a summary of its past'.) And yet...Ken notes that on the 5 and 6 June 1978, he played several tracks from 'Darkness On The Edge Of Town'. Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes.2512) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ROBERT HALL" <1bob_hall@...> wrote: > > I seem to remember a girl writing into the show asking Peel's advice about a boy she liked, who was a Waits and a Springsteen fan. His answer was short and sweet 'ditch him'. > From colmgallagher@... Mon Oct 27 10:02:36 2008 From: colmgallagher@... (Colm Gallagher) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? Message-ID: <447743.33172.qm@...> There is a recording from one of his Dutch(?) shows where Peel plays a freebie Disc from one of the music papers that has a Tom Waits Track... His comment... "Ive always found him to be a bit of an old bore...."(somebody else from the group may have mentioned this) Kind of says it all I suppose! From deedeeramain@... Mon Oct 27 14:42:43 2008 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] 400 Tapes Message-ID: <376445.26384.qm@...> Hi Rocker! Just PayPal'd a contribution to the postage expenses for the 400 Box tapes. I encourage anyone out there to bust open the piggy bank and help Rocker and Co. out if you can! My dog and cat will go hungry for the next couple of weeks but they know it's for a noble cause! Thanks to all you posters / rippers / uploaders for all the recent contributions. Don't worry about the quality so much - we may never get another copy of these broadcasts and if we do well and good! Does it strike anyone that what we are doing here is a form of historical digital archaeology?! Cheers! DeeDee ________________________________ From: "rockerq@..." To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:34:02 AM Subject: [peel] 400 Tapes Have just packaged up the next two batches of cassettes, which will be winging their way to two lucky rippers tomorrow. These are the 14th and 15th batches, not including the ones I have ripped myself, and we are now at the end of our postage funding! (each batch costs around ten sterling quids for its return trip). So if anyone is enjoying the fruits of these ripped tapes, please consider making a donation to the fund, we are around half way there! You can PayPal me at rockerq@aol. com - (make sure you tell me it's for peel tapes postage) - or send me cash, cheques or postal orders - email me for details! Cheers! Rocker "If I could have back all the money I've spent on drink... I'd spend it on drink" From her_thing@... Mon Oct 27 14:56:45 2008 From: her_thing@... (uk thing) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <169461.85241.qm@...> It's always been common knowledge among fans of the band. Mark Brennan at Captain Oi! had been after it for a few years + eventually his hard work paid off and the BBC started licensing various Peel and other radio 1 sessions to him for his label and Dojo/Cherry Red/etc - this was probably the most coveted one to get due to the fact that it wasn't broadcast. I'd recommend this as a slightly biased but truthful account of Oi! http://www.garry-bushell.co.uk/oi/index.asp --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Steve wrote: From: Steve Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:43 PM Dear 'her' Thank you for finally clearing this up: though I'd be interested to know where you got your information from, there does seem to be some precedent for this. It opens up a new area of investigation: which bands recorded sessions that were never broadcast? I can think of at least three instances, and I'd be grateful if anybody else could add to this: 1. The Clash abandoned their session midway through the recording, stating that the BBC's equipment was not up to scratch (Peel adding that, in his opinion, they were so out of their heads that they couldn't continue). However, it has been said (I can't remember where) that they got as far as making the backing tracks. I wonder if these survive. 2. The Pogues' first session (when they were still known as 'Pogue Mahone', Irish Gaelic for 'kiss my arse') featured an extra track, 'The Boys From County Hell', which wasn't broadcast apparently as a result of the prodigious amount of swearing therein (even though I recall Magazine's 'Permafrost' , with the line 'I will drug you and fuck you on the permafrost', being broadcast unedited years previously, with Peel adding 'There's a naughty word in this one' beforehand). 3. Morrissey's first solo session, 'inevitably tentative' as John said, was not broadcast at the singer's own request. Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "her_thing" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > < Skins>> > > > > > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? > > > > Confused... > > > > Rocker > > > > The 4-Skins session was recorded for Peel just before Southall but not > broadcast (due to the controversy surrounding the band + Oi! in general > for a while afterwards). Peel also appeared on a Nationwide feature > defending the band soon after. It subsequently became something of > a 'holy grail' among Oi!/streetpunk collectors + Mark at Captain Oi! > eventually licensed the session off the BBC a few years back, along > with a load of other Oi! and punk sessions, hence it appearing on > the 'Secret Life' CD. > From tabdrinkink74@... Mon Oct 27 15:36:13 2008 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:36:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? References: Message-ID: <989462.16940.qm@...> i particularly liked when a listener wrote into Radio 1 during the Peel tributes four years ago saying how fond he was of recalling John play a Springsteen track - possibly an exclusive - and Peelie's assessment of it as soon as it finished was to call it "powerfully average". thomas ________________________________ From: Steve To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 27 October, 2008 3:53:21 Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? Dear Robert Nice one, don't know about 'sweet'!, but it certainly sounds like John. JP's dislike of Springsteen is well-documented (his diary refers to Jon Landau's review stating that Springsteen was the future of rock'n'roll: after seeing him in concert, Peel concluded that he was 'more a summary of its past'.) And yet...Ken notes that on the 5 and 6 June 1978, he played several tracks from 'Darkness On The Edge Of Town'. Best wishes Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "ROBERT HALL" <1bob_hall@. ..> wrote: > > I seem to remember a girl writing into the show asking Peel's advice about a boy she liked, who was a Waits and a Springsteen fan. His answer was short and sweet 'ditch him'. > From spiggytopes55@... Mon Oct 27 23:18:18 2008 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) In-Reply-To: <20081026202511.BFZI2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <864707.63952.qm@...> Bill,   If you've got it, then I must have it, somewhere, as Kev digitised all of Andy's tapes and I sent the lot back to him, with MP3 copies. Must be on my drive somewhere.   In recent weeks, I've found a new complete show in my garage!!, It's from 29/4/82 and includes sessions by the Cherry Boys and The Ravishing Beauties. Hopefully that will be available as soon as I get it (and other tapes) to Kev, he copies it and then can make it available. So keep a look out.   Top marks for Kev and all the rest of the rippers.   Cheers,   Julian --- On Sun, 26/10/08, bill.spiby@... wrote: From: bill.spiby@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration)) To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 8:25 PM Hi Julian, I've received some recordings from Andy. They do contain the broadcast of the top 3 tracks from the 77 Festive 50 (or at least that's all I've spotted thus far). Will update once I've gone through them. Regards Bill > > From: Julian Porter > Date: 2008/10/23 Thu AM 12:32:42 BST > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration) ) > > I contacted Andy Smith a long time back and got all his tapes (a mixed bag). These were digitised by my mate Kev (of this list) but I can't see I have a broadcast copy of the Top 13 for 1977. I do however have the an MP3 of the top 13 tracks, taken from albums/singles. Not sure where that came from. >   > Cheers, >   > Julian > > --- On Wed, 22/10/08, dunelm61 wrote: > > From: dunelm61 > Subject: Re: [peel] 1977 Festive 50 (a billion questions (very slight exaggeration) ) > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:38 PM > > > > > > > Althea & Donna did certainly rerecord Uptown Top Ranking at some stage ? > I've heard this rather poor version on a couple of compilation LPs. Why > the song was rerecorded, and where the new version originally appears, > is a mystery to me. > > If memory serves, Calico Suit is the instrumental version of the > original. Does that make sense? > > As regards getting hold of a tape of the 1977 Festive Fifty as > broadcast, at www.rocklist. net/festive50. htm you will see that Andy > Smith (Andymss@aol. com) claims to have a recording of the top thirteen. > I believe that members of this group have tried to get in touch with > Andy but without success. The tape would certainly be worth getting > hold of though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -- Email sent from www.virginmedia. com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From jimmystep@... Tue Oct 28 13:17:21 2008 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:17:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <571199.43909.qm@...> Tape T070 dated 1979-02-14 Frank Zappa: Rat Tomago (LP - Sheik Yerbouti) CBS http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/T070 --- On Sun, 26/10/08, Roger Carruthers wrote: Re: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? Ditto Frank Zappa ? I think I posted the question here once before, but apart from some early Mothers, eg. in the final Perfumed Garden, I don’t recall ever hearing any Zappa on Peel, which considering his prodigious output, would seem a deliberate omission – possibly because John was fond of Beefheart, who fell out with Zappa, or perhaps he couldn’t quite stomach Zappa’s famously cynical world view? From saipanda@... Tue Oct 28 14:21:20 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:21:20 -0000 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: <571199.43909.qm@...> Message-ID: There's a couple of Mothers of Invention appearances on the Wiki from Perfumed Garden days (think there's also actually another couple, but Ihaven't done the tracklistings yet). Also, this one from Top Gear: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_July_1969 Also this Top Gear, 11 August 1968, which I've had for ages from somewhere or other, but also hadn't got up on the Wiki yet and just found on a blog via a quick google: http://halsprogressiverockblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-peel-top-gear-bbc-radio- 1.html Cheers, Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Jimmy Stepek wrote: > > Tape T070 dated 1979-02-14 > > Frank Zappa: Rat Tomago (LP - Sheik Yerbouti) CBS > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/T070 > > --- On Sun, 26/10/08, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > > > > > > > Re: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? > Ditto Frank Zappa ? > > I think I posted the question here once before, but apart from some early Mothers, eg. in the final Perfumed Garden, I don’t recall ever hearing any Zappa on Peel, which considering his prodigious output, would seem a deliberate omission â€" possibly because John was fond of Beefheart, who fell out with Zappa, or perhaps he couldn’t quite stomach Zappa’s famously cynical world view? > From saipanda@... Tue Oct 28 14:28:12 2008 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:28:12 -0000 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Actually, that last blog link doesn't contain Zappa, but thought it might be interesting for folks here who don't have the show yet. There's not so many of this era knocking about. Sorry for any confusion. Steve W --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "saipanda" wrote: > > There's a couple of Mothers of Invention appearances on the Wiki from Perfumed Garden > days (think there's also actually another couple, but Ihaven't done the tracklistings yet). > > Also, this one from Top Gear: > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_July_1969 > > Also this Top Gear, 11 August 1968, which I've had for ages from somewhere or other, but > also hadn't got up on the Wiki yet and just found on a blog via a quick google: > > http://halsprogressiverockblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-peel-top-gear-bbc- radio- > 1.html > > Cheers, > > Steve W > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Jimmy Stepek wrote: > > > > Tape T070 dated 1979-02-14 > > > > Frank Zappa: Rat Tomago (LP - Sheik Yerbouti) CBS > > > > > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/T070 > > > > --- On Sun, 26/10/08, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? > > Ditto Frank Zappa ? > > > > I think I posted the question here once before, but apart from some early Mothers, eg. > in the final Perfumed Garden, I don’t recall ever hearing any Zappa on Peel, which > considering his prodigious output, would seem a deliberate omission â€" possibly > because John was fond of Beefheart, who fell out with Zappa, or perhaps he couldn’t > quite stomach Zappa’s famously cynical world view? > > > From stuart@... Tue Oct 28 20:49:10 2008 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:10 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: <1225178317.984.77592.m46@yahoogroups.com> References: <1225178317.984.77592.m46@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <847511FD-1526-4AD7-AAD3-5D229972E7EC@...> > All rush in and correct me if I'm wrong, but did Peel not play a fair bit from Nebraska (Springsteen's more acoustic/less bombastic album?) > Nice one, don't know about 'sweet'!, but it certainly sounds like > John. JP's dislike of Springsteen is well-documented (his diary refers > to Jon Landau's review stating that Springsteen was the future of > rock'n'roll: after seeing him in concert, Peel concluded that he was > 'more a summary of its past'.) And yet...Ken notes that on the 5 and 6 > June 1978, he played several tracks from 'Darkness On The Edge Of > Town'. > > Best wishes > Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "ROBERT HALL" <1bob_hall@. ..> wrote: >> >> I seem to remember a girl writing into the show asking Peel's advice > about a boy she liked, who was a Waits and a Springsteen fan. His > answer was short and sweet 'ditch him'. >> Stuart Mchugh stuart@... From ken_garner@... Wed Oct 29 00:34:24 2008 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:34:24 -0000 Subject: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: <847511FD-1526-4AD7-AAD3-5D229972E7EC@...> Message-ID: yes, peel did play Nebraska I think, and he had played Born To Run, and stuff from Darkness on The Edge of Town, as previously documented here. I remember being astonished the first time i visited Peel Acres, in 89, when I was browsing upstairs in John's LP collection, to find a line of springsteen albums. JOhn was down the bunk bed steps, immediately below me, and I said 'I don't want to upset you John, but I've just found some Springsteen albums up here', 'oh there's far more appalling stuff than that up there, I know..' he said (or something like that). By the way, Hannah from R1 tells me she has indeed found the 4-skins session recordings, with an entry saying 'not in Ken's book' attached to the catalogue entry, and a notice in the separate Romeo computer archive saying "recorded June 81 but not broadcast after Southall riots" - which confirms our correspondent's story. No sign of session sheet, however. Peel was interviewed in a BBC1 TV Nationwide piece on Oi on 9 September 81, which also is in the archive, apparently: the catalogue says of his bit: "JOHN PEEL, on late'70's nazism trend-Joy Division, New Order(6.25-7.28)bands not responsible for fans(10.15-11)like shock value(13.10-30)" which is no doubt a selective summary! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Mchugh wrote: > > > > > All rush in and correct me if I'm wrong, but did Peel not play a fair > bit from Nebraska (Springsteen's more acoustic/less bombastic album?) > > > > Nice one, don't know about 'sweet'!, but it certainly sounds like > > John. JP's dislike of Springsteen is well-documented (his diary refers > > to Jon Landau's review stating that Springsteen was the future of > > rock'n'roll: after seeing him in concert, Peel concluded that he was > > 'more a summary of its past'.) And yet...Ken notes that on the 5 and 6 > > June 1978, he played several tracks from 'Darkness On The Edge Of > > Town'. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "ROBERT HALL" <1bob_hall@ ..> wrote: > >> > >> I seem to remember a girl writing into the show asking Peel's advice > > about a boy she liked, who was a Waits and a Springsteen fan. His > > answer was short and sweet 'ditch him'. > >> > > Stuart Mchugh > stuart@... > From allan_mcnaughton@... Wed Oct 29 00:44:41 2008 From: allan_mcnaughton@... (Allan McNaughton) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:44:41 -0000 Subject: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: <169461.85241.qm@...> Message-ID: I knew I'd seen this on Ya Tube... Peel on the Southall riots etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRJf1J3OnD0 - Allan (ps first post!) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, uk thing wrote: > > It's always been common knowledge among fans of the band. Mark Brennan at Captain Oi! had been after it for a few years + eventually his hard work paid off and the BBC started licensing various Peel and other radio 1 sessions to him for his label and Dojo/Cherry Red/etc - this was probably the most coveted one to get due to the fact that it wasn't broadcast. > I'd recommend this as a slightly biased but truthful account of Oi! > http://www.garry-bushell.co.uk/oi/index.asp > > > --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Steve wrote: > > From: Steve > Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:43 PM > > > > > > > Dear 'her' > > Thank you for finally clearing this up: though I'd be interested to > know where you got your information from, there does seem to be some > precedent for this. It opens up a new area of investigation: which > bands recorded sessions that were never broadcast? I can think of at > least three instances, and I'd be grateful if anybody else could add > to this: > > 1. The Clash abandoned their session midway through the recording, > stating that the BBC's equipment was not up to scratch (Peel adding > that, in his opinion, they were so out of their heads that they > couldn't continue). However, it has been said (I can't remember where) > that they got as far as making the backing tracks. I wonder if these > survive. > 2. The Pogues' first session (when they were still known as 'Pogue > Mahone', Irish Gaelic for 'kiss my arse') featured an extra track, > 'The Boys From County Hell', which wasn't broadcast apparently as a > result of the prodigious amount of swearing therein (even though I > recall Magazine's 'Permafrost' , with the line 'I will drug you and > fuck you on the permafrost', being broadcast unedited years > previously, with Peel adding 'There's a naughty word in this one' > beforehand). > 3. Morrissey's first solo session, 'inevitably tentative' as John > said, was not broadcast at the singer's own request. > > Best wishes > Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "her_thing" wrote: > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > < > Skins>> > > > > > > > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? > > > > > > Confused... > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > The 4-Skins session was recorded for Peel just before Southall but not > > broadcast (due to the controversy surrounding the band + Oi! in general > > for a while afterwards). Peel also appeared on a Nationwide feature > > defending the band soon after. It subsequently became something of > > a 'holy grail' among Oi!/streetpunk collectors + Mark at Captain Oi! > > eventually licensed the session off the BBC a few years back, along > > with a load of other Oi! and punk sessions, hence it appearing on > > the 'Secret Life' CD. > > > From tabdrinkink74@... Wed Oct 29 00:46:50 2008 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:46:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? References: Message-ID: <573830.34334.qm@...> Do you mean this interview Ken? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sRJf1J3OnD0 ________________________________ From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 23:34:24 Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? yes, peel did play Nebraska I think, and he had played Born To Run, and stuff from Darkness on The Edge of Town, as previously documented here. I remember being astonished the first time i visited Peel Acres, in 89, when I was browsing upstairs in John's LP collection, to find a line of springsteen albums. JOhn was down the bunk bed steps, immediately below me, and I said 'I don't want to upset you John, but I've just found some Springsteen albums up here', 'oh there's far more appalling stuff than that up there, I know..' he said (or something like that). By the way, Hannah from R1 tells me she has indeed found the 4-skins session recordings, with an entry saying 'not in Ken's book' attached to the catalogue entry, and a notice in the separate Romeo computer archive saying "recorded June 81 but not broadcast after Southall riots" - which confirms our correspondent' s story. No sign of session sheet, however. Peel was interviewed in a BBC1 TV Nationwide piece on Oi on 9 September 81, which also is in the archive, apparently: the catalogue says of his bit: "JOHN PEEL, on late'70's nazism trend-Joy Division, New Order(6.25-7. 28)bands not responsible for fans(10.15-11) like shock value(13.10- 30)" which is no doubt a selective summary! k --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Stuart Mchugh wrote: > > > > > All rush in and correct me if I'm wrong, but did Peel not play a fair > bit from Nebraska (Springsteen' s more acoustic/less bombastic album?) > > > > Nice one, don't know about 'sweet'!, but it certainly sounds like > > John. JP's dislike of Springsteen is well-documented (his diary refers > > to Jon Landau's review stating that Springsteen was the future of > > rock'n'roll: after seeing him in concert, Peel concluded that he was > > 'more a summary of its past'.) And yet...Ken notes that on the 5 and 6 > > June 1978, he played several tracks from 'Darkness On The Edge Of > > Town'. > > > > Best wishes > > Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "ROBERT HALL" <1bob_hall@ ..> wrote: > >> > >> I seem to remember a girl writing into the show asking Peel's advice > > about a boy she liked, who was a Waits and a Springsteen fan. His > > answer was short and sweet 'ditch him'. > >> > > Stuart Mchugh > stuart@... > From tabdrinkink74@... Wed Oct 29 00:47:53 2008 From: tabdrinkink74@... (Thomas Blatchford) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:47:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session References: Message-ID: <599135.80745.qm@...> gah, beat me to it! ________________________________ From: Allan McNaughton To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 23:44:41 Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session I knew I'd seen this on Ya Tube... Peel on the Southall riots etc http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=sRJf1J3OnD0 - Allan (ps first post!) --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, uk thing wrote: > > It's always been common knowledge among fans of the band. Mark Brennan at Captain Oi! had been after it for a few years + eventually his hard work paid off and the BBC started licensing various Peel and other radio 1 sessions to him for his label and Dojo/Cherry Red/etc - this was probably the most coveted one to get due to the fact that it wasn't broadcast. > I'd recommend this as a slightly biased but truthful account of Oi! > http://www.garry- bushell.co. uk/oi/index. asp > > > --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Steve wrote: > > From: Steve > Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:43 PM > > > > > > > Dear 'her' > > Thank you for finally clearing this up: though I'd be interested to > know where you got your information from, there does seem to be some > precedent for this. It opens up a new area of investigation: which > bands recorded sessions that were never broadcast? I can think of at > least three instances, and I'd be grateful if anybody else could add > to this: > > 1. The Clash abandoned their session midway through the recording, > stating that the BBC's equipment was not up to scratch (Peel adding > that, in his opinion, they were so out of their heads that they > couldn't continue). However, it has been said (I can't remember where) > that they got as far as making the backing tracks. I wonder if these > survive. > 2. The Pogues' first session (when they were still known as 'Pogue > Mahone', Irish Gaelic for 'kiss my arse') featured an extra track, > 'The Boys From County Hell', which wasn't broadcast apparently as a > result of the prodigious amount of swearing therein (even though I > recall Magazine's 'Permafrost' , with the line 'I will drug you and > fuck you on the permafrost', being broadcast unedited years > previously, with Peel adding 'There's a naughty word in this one' > beforehand). > 3. Morrissey's first solo session, 'inevitably tentative' as John > said, was not broadcast at the singer's own request. > > Best wishes > Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "her_thing" wrote: > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > < > Skins>> > > > > > > > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? > > > > > > Confused... > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > The 4-Skins session was recorded for Peel just before Southall but not > > broadcast (due to the controversy surrounding the band + Oi! in general > > for a while afterwards). Peel also appeared on a Nationwide feature > > defending the band soon after. It subsequently became something of > > a 'holy grail' among Oi!/streetpunk collectors + Mark at Captain Oi! > > eventually licensed the session off the BBC a few years back, along > > with a load of other Oi! and punk sessions, hence it appearing on > > the 'Secret Life' CD. > > > From her_thing@... Wed Oct 29 01:48:57 2008 From: her_thing@... (uk thing) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session In-Reply-To: <599135.80745.qm@...> Message-ID: <535702.93283.qm@...> BTW, the 'reformed' version of the 4-Skins (with original singer Gary Hodges + 3 extras) headlined the final day at the big 'Rebellion' Blackpool punk weekender this year. Hoxton Tom (bass player & only constant member in the original line-up) is now quite high up in the civil service. He also posts regularly on one of the modculture forums which I forget the name of. --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Thomas Blatchford wrote: From: Thomas Blatchford Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session To: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 7:47 PM gah, beat me to it! From: Allan McNaughton To: peel@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 23:44:41 Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session I knew I'd seen this on Ya Tube... Peel on the Southall riots etc http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=sRJf1J3OnD0 - Allan (ps first post!) --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, uk thing wrote: > > It's always been common knowledge among fans of the band. Mark Brennan at Captain Oi! had been after it for a few years + eventually his hard work paid off and the BBC started licensing various Peel and other radio 1 sessions to him for his label and Dojo/Cherry Red/etc - this was probably the most coveted one to get due to the fact that it wasn't broadcast. > I'd recommend this as a slightly biased but truthful account of Oi! > http://www.garry- bushell.co. uk/oi/index. asp > > > --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Steve wrote: > > From: Steve > Subject: [peel] Re: Did the 4 Skins ever record a session > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:43 PM > > > > > > > Dear 'her' > > Thank you for finally clearing this up: though I'd be interested to > know where you got your information from, there does seem to be some > precedent for this. It opens up a new area of investigation: which > bands recorded sessions that were never broadcast? I can think of at > least three instances, and I'd be grateful if anybody else could add > to this: > > 1. The Clash abandoned their session midway through the recording, > stating that the BBC's equipment was not up to scratch (Peel adding > that, in his opinion, they were so out of their heads that they > couldn't continue). However, it has been said (I can't remember where) > that they got as far as making the backing tracks. I wonder if these > survive. > 2. The Pogues' first session (when they were still known as 'Pogue > Mahone', Irish Gaelic for 'kiss my arse') featured an extra track, > 'The Boys From County Hell', which wasn't broadcast apparently as a > result of the prodigious amount of swearing therein (even though I > recall Magazine's 'Permafrost' , with the line 'I will drug you and > fuck you on the permafrost', being broadcast unedited years > previously, with Peel adding 'There's a naughty word in this one' > beforehand). > 3. Morrissey's first solo session, 'inevitably tentative' as John > said, was not broadcast at the singer's own request. > > Best wishes > Steve (so.it.goes. 2512) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "her_thing" wrote: > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, rockerq@ wrote: > > > > > > > < > Skins>> > > > > > > > So does anyone know if Peel ever played them? > > > > > > Confused... > > > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > The 4-Skins session was recorded for Peel just before Southall but not > > broadcast (due to the controversy surrounding the band + Oi! in general > > for a while afterwards). Peel also appeared on a Nationwide feature > > defending the band soon after. It subsequently became something of > > a 'holy grail' among Oi!/streetpunk collectors + Mark at Captain Oi! > > eventually licensed the session off the BBC a few years back, along > > with a load of other Oi! and punk sessions, hence it appearing on > > the 'Secret Life' CD. > > > From sdmaclean@... Thu Oct 30 01:59:05 2008 From: sdmaclean@... (sdmaclean@...) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:59:05 +0000 Subject: can anyone date this Peel show? Message-ID: <103020080059.14838.490906D90006D0B5000039F62200748184020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> Many years ago, either 80s or maybe 90s, I taped a Peel show and a line of his has stuck in my memory ever since, though I have not located the tape in donkeys... "and that's the first half of Andy White of East Kilbride's birthday present.. from Joy Division from their session from the 31st of January 1979, Exercise One, Insight, She's Lost Control and Transmission, and the second half later in the program..." So would have been both JD sessions in one night?? Where and how is Andy White now? Is he (she?? my sister in law Andrea goes by Andy) on the list? Can anyone date this utterance? Of course it's of no consequence to anyone, I just find myself amused that I can still remember it. Came to mind after watching the Joy Division documentary last night, very watchable (if not much differnt to the Shadowplayers DVD really) The 50 (!) extra snippets were fun too. Sad to watch Tony Wilson in all his glory. Rambling over... Stuart From i50bar@... Thu Oct 30 15:38:29 2008 From: i50bar@... (Mark Webb) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:38:29 -0000 Subject: [peel] can anyone date this Peel show? References: <103020080059.14838.490906D90006D0B5000039F62200748184020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> Message-ID: <004e01c93a9d$2cf526b0$f7765651@mark8225c28340> 1st September 1983 maybe? ----- Original Message ----- From: sdmaclean@... To: peel Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:59 AM Subject: [peel] can anyone date this Peel show? Many years ago, either 80s or maybe 90s, I taped a Peel show and a line of his has stuck in my memory ever since, though I have not located the tape in donkeys... "and that's the first half of Andy White of East Kilbride's birthday present.. from Joy Division from their session from the 31st of January 1979, Exercise One, Insight, She's Lost Control and Transmission, and the second half later in the program..." So would have been both JD sessions in one night?? Where and how is Andy White now? Is he (she?? my sister in law Andrea goes by Andy) on the list? Can anyone date this utterance? Of course it's of no consequence to anyone, I just find myself amused that I can still remember it. Came to mind after watching the Joy Division documentary last night, very watchable (if not much differnt to the Shadowplayers DVD really) The 50 (!) extra snippets were fun too. Sad to watch Tony Wilson in all his glory. Rambling over... Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1754 - Release Date: 10/29/2008 7:45 AM From johnwastle@... Thu Oct 30 19:33:34 2008 From: johnwastle@... (johnwastle) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:33:34 -0000 Subject: can anyone date this Peel show? In-Reply-To: <103020080059.14838.490906D90006D0B5000039F62200748184020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> Message-ID: Yes, I's almost certainly 1 September 1983. I remember taping both sessions from this show early in my Peel-listening days. From colinbray@... Thu Oct 30 22:06:33 2008 From: colinbray@... (colin bray) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:06:33 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? In-Reply-To: References: <571199.43909.qm@...> Message-ID: I may have missed this elsewhere (just catching up with the backlog of messages) but I remember Peel playing a Ruben and the Jets tune on the day Zappa died. John was pretty choked up as I recall. Colin. To: peel@yahoogroups.comFrom: saipanda@...: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:21:20 +0000Subject: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits? There's a couple of Mothers of Invention appearances on the Wiki from Perfumed Garden days (think there's also actually another couple, but Ihaven't done the tracklistings yet).Also, this one from Top Gear:http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/06_July_1969Also this Top Gear, 11 August 1968, which I've had for ages from somewhere or other, but also hadn't got up on the Wiki yet and just found on a blog via a quick google:http://halsprogressiverockblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-peel-top-gear-bbc-radio-1.htmlCheers,Steve W--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Jimmy Stepek wrote:>> Tape T070 dated 1979-02-14> > Frank Zappa: Rat Tomago (LP - Sheik Yerbouti) CBS> > > http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/T070> > --- On Sun, 26/10/08, Roger Carruthers wrote:> > > > > > > > Re: [peel] Re: Did Peel ever play Tom Waits?> Ditto Frank Zappa ? > > I think I posted the question here once before, but apart from some early Mothers, eg. in the final Perfumed Garden, I don’t recall ever hearing any Zappa on Peel, which considering his prodigious output, would seem a deliberate omission â€" possibly because John was fond of Beefheart, who fell out with Zappa, or perhaps he couldn’t quite stomach Zappa’s famously cynical world view?> _________________________________________________________________ Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008