From ken_garner@... Thu Nov 1 00:25:52 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:25:52 -0000 Subject: Where's Peelenium? What happened? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dee Dee - I have not checked the whole list, but I could not help spotting that your Peelenium listing (are those the recordings of the actual sections of all the relevant nightly shows, from May 99 to Jan 2000? Blimey!) had four records as usual for 1962 and 1985, when the master list Peel Producer at the time Anita Kamath had - which she gave me and which I used for its inclusion in my PEEL SESSIONS book - only had 3 for those years. I wonder if Peel simply added in a bonus one of his own on the nights in question without agreement? Or is it (groan) another error in BBC documentation? I heard quite a bit of the Peelenium going out but not all, and I was not taping... ken garner From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 1 02:51:27 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Where's Peelenium? What happened? Message-ID: <705781.29630.qm@...> Hello Ken! Wow! I am not knowing! I was one of those guys who loved Peel for ages at one point then got older and lost track! I was working overseas on oil rigs from 1985 until Peels death and in that time only caught the odd show. He was a formative part of my youth and upon his death I wanted to catch up on some of the shows I missed. Listening to Peel was an education! He really was humble and introduced you to a bunch of music that you would never have considered normally. I always missed being able to tune in to his show. If I was working on an oil rig in the desert in Yemen for example, the world service was always crap reception on short wave (even with the flash Sony radio and external antenna I had) and I was usually on night shift which meant I needed to be sleeping when the man was transmitting! I couldn't rely on my flat mates to tape Peelie for me so had to make do with the tapes I made (infrequently) on my days off in the UK. Then; I stopped coming back to the UK so often and just lost track of the music scene. With the advent of the digital age and digital radio I was looking into the options of digitally listening to Peel but out in the desert (now in Saudi) - us rig pigs weren't seeing the advantages of internet yet (we didn't even have access to email when I left the rigs in 2005!). I was tempted to write to Peel to say 'Hey! You're getting on now, you won't be around forever - are your shows being tape recorded? Perhaps you could answer that Ken? Did the BBC ever record his shows or were they launched into the ether and that's that? I started trying to collect Peel shows using eMule but that was taking forever! I found more shows being shared by some of the cool websites on the 'net paying homage to Peel and that led me to install and use the BitTorrent program to download more shit. I found the 'stuff' I'm uploading on a search off the 'net at 'goonerproductions.co.uk'. £40 for 17 DVDs. I'm just sharing the love as my contribution to 'Community Spirit' so I can't claim to be any kind of expert! You might want to contact Darren at the aforementioned site to question him. Just don't tell him we're sharing the stuff he's trying to make money from! I presume he collected it off the 'net in the first place so I don't worry about passing it around! I'd be really interested to know if Peel's shows were recorded by the BBC. I suspect not but can you confirm that? Thanks on behalf of everyone and me! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:25:52 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Where's Peelenium? What happened? Dee Dee - I have not checked the whole list, but I could not help spotting that your Peelenium listing (are those the recordings of the actual sections of all the relevant nightly shows, from May 99 to Jan 2000? Blimey!) had four records as usual for 1962 and 1985, when the master list Peel Producer at the time Anita Kamath had - which she gave me and which I used for its inclusion in my PEEL SESSIONS book - only had 3 for those years. I wonder if Peel simply added in a bonus one of his own on the nights in question without agreement? Or is it (groan) another error in BBC documentation? I heard quite a bit of the Peelenium going out but not all, and I was not taping... ken garner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 1 03:05:10 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:05:10 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 4 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! It's late at night (for me in the UK!) and I only have 5 new seeds uploading the '3 of 17' torrent but I'm going to initiate the fourth torrent now because time is tight! For some reason I keep getting an error while trying to upload on the 'Pirate Bay' site (keeps telling me that my torrent is broken). This is after some new updates to the 'Pirate Bay' site. I successfully uploaded my torrent with 'Mininova' so go for it! Community minded members of the group Phil and Roger have guaranteed to continue uploading torrents 1 and 2 so I would like one member to put their hand up and declare they will keep the 'John Peel Torrent Compilation 3 of 17' on their hard drive for the next few weeks so we can guarantee a good number of copies spreading throughout the community - who's gonna help us out? I'm kinda new to BitTorrent but I understand that it's best to give just one torrent a high upload rate at the expense of the others you're downloading. So, if you are downloading five files and a JP torrent is one of them - limit the upload of the others to the bare minimum and upload Peelie at your maximum rate. This helps distribute the file amongst the Peel community and improves your stats at the same time! Win Win situation! Cheers! Dee Dee From kevin_beech@... Thu Nov 1 06:55:25 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:55:25 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 4 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi dee dee, i'll host no 3 for a couple of weeks this stuff is excellent!! well done that man kev.. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > Hello Chaps! > > It's late at night (for me in the UK!) and I only have 5 new seeds > uploading the '3 of 17' torrent but I'm going to initiate the fourth > torrent now because time is tight! > > For some reason I keep getting an error while trying to upload on > the 'Pirate Bay' site (keeps telling me that my torrent is broken). > This is after some new updates to the 'Pirate Bay' site. > > I successfully uploaded my torrent with 'Mininova' so go for it! > > Community minded members of the group Phil and Roger have guaranteed > to continue uploading torrents 1 and 2 so I would like one member to > put their hand up and declare they will keep the 'John Peel Torrent > Compilation 3 of 17' on their hard drive for the next few weeks so > we can guarantee a good number of copies spreading throughout the > community - who's gonna help us out? > > I'm kinda new to BitTorrent but I understand that it's best to give > just one torrent a high upload rate at the expense of the others > you're downloading. > So, if you are downloading five files and a JP torrent is one of > them - limit the upload of the others to the bare minimum and upload > Peelie at your maximum rate. This helps distribute the file amongst > the Peel community and improves your stats at the same time! Win Win > situation! > > Cheers! > > Dee Dee > From ken_garner@... Thu Nov 1 08:41:33 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:41:33 -0000 Subject: Did the BBC Tape the Peel Show? In-Reply-To: <705781.29630.qm@...> Message-ID: Did the BBC tape Peel's shows? Er, yes, and no. Very few from early years, lots from latter years. Really depends on the year, producer, and the period. Up to 1998 a small number each year were taped on reel to reel as a sample and put in the BBC archive, either by producers (Bernie Andrews taped the first Top Gear and several others 67-68 himself, for example), or from 87 ish by R1 archivist Phil Lawton. >From 97 ish when radio 1 moved to digital for archiving the running orders and its legal requirement to tape shows and hold them for 28 days (in the analog days theses wer v slow low quality r-t-rs and not kept beyond that), therafter normally a CD was burned in the studio of every show as it went out (including the ones at Peel Acres from Spring 99 on Thursdays), but this did not always work. Some are missing. But, for example, almost every show from 2000 and lots/most from 2002 onwards are there. You can confirm these are all in the bbc catalogue, which you can search the index of online - though not listen to - at the altered URL of: http://catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/ type in john peel, and you are looking for ROT ("record of transmission") of John Peel radio appearances, under all / various entries except the first which comes up, which includes other people called john peel! But the BBC has no immediate plans to broadcast or make these available to the public. There is the much-trumpeted creative archive project from 2004, which set out to do this... see here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/05_may/26/ creative_archive.shtml ...eventually putting all its holdings online, but this project appears to have got stalled a bit in er, its other more pressing problems! Like a new director general and new scandals, you know, the usual. I would not hold your breath. Other international projects for making spoken word programmes available to students online, like the one my university is involved in (not me personally, not really), have made significant progress, but exclude music shows: http://www.spokenword.ac.uk/ However, until the end of the century, the other official recorders of the Peel show and Peel Sessions were the British Library's national sound archive. They have extensive Peel holdings, which you can apply to listen to in person in a booth if you visit the library at St Pancras, London. I know they taped quite a lot in the late 70s and 80s, 2 or 3 dozen shows a year sometimes, and have archived the peel sessions they have. Info & tips from their pop music curator Andy Linehan (good man)here: http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/tipspop.html the fact remains that, in terms of accessible and complete recordings, it is regular listeners like the members of this group who are the most public documenters and sharers of the Peel legacy, a point I have tried to make pretty clear in my book, both in order to celebrate and pay tribute to you lot, but also implicitly point the finger at the BBC for its corporate tardiness in this regard, ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Riving Ton wrote: > > Hello Ken! > Wow! I am not knowing! > I was one of those guys who loved Peel for ages at one point then got older and lost track! I was working overseas on oil rigs from 1985 until Peels death and in that time only caught the odd show. > He was a formative part of my youth and upon his death I wanted to catch up on some of the shows I missed. Listening to Peel was an education! He really was humble and introduced you to a bunch of music that you would never have considered normally. > I always missed being able to tune in to his show. If I was working on an oil rig in the desert in Yemen for example, the world service was always crap reception on short wave (even with the flash Sony radio and external antenna I had) and I was usually on night shift which meant I needed to be sleeping when the man was transmitting! > I couldn't rely on my flat mates to tape Peelie for me so had to make do with the tapes I made (infrequently) on my days off in the UK. Then; I stopped coming back to the UK so often and just lost track of the music scene. > With the advent of the digital age and digital radio I was looking into the options of digitally listening to Peel but out in the desert (now in Saudi) - us rig pigs weren't seeing the advantages of internet yet (we didn't even have access to email when I left the rigs in 2005!). > I was tempted to write to Peel to say 'Hey! You're getting on now, you won't be around forever - are your shows being tape recorded? Perhaps you could answer that Ken? Did the BBC ever record his shows or were they launched into the ether and that's that? > I started trying to collect Peel shows using eMule but that was taking forever! I found more shows being shared by some of the cool websites on the 'net paying homage to Peel and that led me to install and use the BitTorrent program to download more shit. > I found the 'stuff' I'm uploading on a search off the 'net at 'goonerproductions.co.uk'. £40 for 17 DVDs. I'm just sharing the love as my contribution to 'Community Spirit' so I can't claim to be any kind of expert! > You might want to contact Darren at the aforementioned site to question him. Just don't tell him we're sharing the stuff he's trying to make money from! I presume he collected it off the 'net in the first place so I don't worry about passing it around! > I'd be really interested to know if Peel's shows were recorded by the BBC. I suspect not but can you confirm that? > Thanks on behalf of everyone and me! > Dee Dee > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:25:52 PM > Subject: [peel] Re: Where's Peelenium? What happened? > > > Dee Dee - I have not checked the whole list, but I could not help > spotting that your Peelenium listing (are those the recordings of the > actual sections of all the relevant nightly shows, from May 99 to Jan > 2000? Blimey!) had four records as usual for 1962 and 1985, when the > master list Peel Producer at the time Anita Kamath had - which she gave > me and which I used for its inclusion in my PEEL SESSIONS book - only > had 3 for those years. I wonder if Peel simply added in a bonus one of > his own on the nights in question without agreement? Or is it (groan) > another error in BBC documentation? I heard quite a bit of the > Peelenium going out but not all, and I was not taping... > > ken garner > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 1 11:22:25 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 03:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Did the BBC Tape the Peel Show? Message-ID: <632878.80621.qm@...> Morning Ken! Wow! That's really interesting and informative perhaps as a subversive group operating on the fringes of society (and sanity) we should try to insert a mole into these places to ferret out (do moles ferret?!) more shows! Thanks for the research and information! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:41:33 AM Subject: [peel] Did the BBC Tape the Peel Show? Did the BBC tape Peel's shows? Er, yes, and no. Very few from early years, lots from latter years. Really depends on the year, producer, and the period. Up to 1998 a small number each year were taped on reel to reel as a sample and put in the BBC archive, either by producers (Bernie Andrews taped the first Top Gear and several others 67-68 himself, for example), or from 87 ish by R1 archivist Phil Lawton. >From 97 ish when radio 1 moved to digital for archiving the running orders and its legal requirement to tape shows and hold them for 28 days (in the analog days theses wer v slow low quality r-t-rs and not kept beyond that), therafter normally a CD was burned in the studio of every show as it went out (including the ones at Peel Acres from Spring 99 on Thursdays), but this did not always work. Some are missing. But, for example, almost every show from 2000 and lots/most from 2002 onwards are there. You can confirm these are all in the bbc catalogue, which you can search the index of online - though not listen to - at the altered URL of: http://catalogue. bbc.co.uk/ catalogue/ infax/ type in john peel, and you are looking for ROT ("record of transmission" ) of John Peel radio appearances, under all / various entries except the first which comes up, which includes other people called john peel! But the BBC has no immediate plans to broadcast or make these available to the public. There is the much-trumpeted creative archive project from 2004, which set out to do this... see here: http://www.bbc. co.uk/pressoffic e/pressreleases/ stories/2004/ 05_may/26/ creative_archive. shtml ...eventually putting all its holdings online, but this project appears to have got stalled a bit in er, its other more pressing problems! Like a new director general and new scandals, you know, the usual. I would not hold your breath. Other international projects for making spoken word programmes available to students online, like the one my university is involved in (not me personally, not really), have made significant progress, but exclude music shows: http://www.spokenwo rd.ac.uk/ However, until the end of the century, the other official recorders of the Peel show and Peel Sessions were the British Library's national sound archive. They have extensive Peel holdings, which you can apply to listen to in person in a booth if you visit the library at St Pancras, London. I know they taped quite a lot in the late 70s and 80s, 2 or 3 dozen shows a year sometimes, and have archived the peel sessions they have. Info & tips from their pop music curator Andy Linehan (good man)here: http://www.bl. uk/collections/ sound-archive/ tipspop.html the fact remains that, in terms of accessible and complete recordings, it is regular listeners like the members of this group who are the most public documenters and sharers of the Peel legacy, a point I have tried to make pretty clear in my book, both in order to celebrate and pay tribute to you lot, but also implicitly point the finger at the BBC for its corporate tardiness in this regard, ken --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Riving Ton wrote: > > Hello Ken! > Wow! I am not knowing! > I was one of those guys who loved Peel for ages at one point then got older and lost track! I was working overseas on oil rigs from 1985 until Peels death and in that time only caught the odd show. > He was a formative part of my youth and upon his death I wanted to catch up on some of the shows I missed. Listening to Peel was an education! He really was humble and introduced you to a bunch of music that you would never have considered normally. > I always missed being able to tune in to his show. If I was working on an oil rig in the desert in Yemen for example, the world service was always crap reception on short wave (even with the flash Sony radio and external antenna I had) and I was usually on night shift which meant I needed to be sleeping when the man was transmitting! > I couldn't rely on my flat mates to tape Peelie for me so had to make do with the tapes I made (infrequently) on my days off in the UK. Then; I stopped coming back to the UK so often and just lost track of the music scene. > With the advent of the digital age and digital radio I was looking into the options of digitally listening to Peel but out in the desert (now in Saudi) - us rig pigs weren't seeing the advantages of internet yet (we didn't even have access to email when I left the rigs in 2005!). > I was tempted to write to Peel to say 'Hey! You're getting on now, you won't be around forever - are your shows being tape recorded? Perhaps you could answer that Ken? Did the BBC ever record his shows or were they launched into the ether and that's that? > I started trying to collect Peel shows using eMule but that was taking forever! I found more shows being shared by some of the cool websites on the 'net paying homage to Peel and that led me to install and use the BitTorrent program to download more shit. > I found the 'stuff' I'm uploading on a search off the 'net at 'goonerproductions. co.uk'. £40 for 17 DVDs. I'm just sharing the love as my contribution to 'Community Spirit' so I can't claim to be any kind of expert! > You might want to contact Darren at the aforementioned site to question him. Just don't tell him we're sharing the stuff he's trying to make money from! I presume he collected it off the 'net in the first place so I don't worry about passing it around! > I'd be really interested to know if Peel's shows were recorded by the BBC. I suspect not but can you confirm that? > Thanks on behalf of everyone and me! > Dee Dee > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:25:52 PM > Subject: [peel] Re: Where's Peelenium? What happened? > > > Dee Dee - I have not checked the whole list, but I could not help > spotting that your Peelenium listing (are those the recordings of the > actual sections of all the relevant nightly shows, from May 99 to Jan > 2000? Blimey!) had four records as usual for 1962 and 1985, when the > master list Peel Producer at the time Anita Kamath had - which she gave > me and which I used for its inclusion in my PEEL SESSIONS book - only > had 3 for those years. I wonder if Peel simply added in a bonus one of > his own on the nights in question without agreement? Or is it (groan) > another error in BBC documentation? I heard quite a bit of the > Peelenium going out but not all, and I was not taping... > > ken garner > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail. yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 1 11:15:54 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 03:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: John Peel Torrent Compilation 4 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: <113715.23242.qm@...> Well done Kev! ----- Original Message ---- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 5:55:25 AM Subject: [peel] Re: John Peel Torrent Compilation 4 of 17 now seeding! hi dee dee, i'll host no 3 for a couple of weeks this stuff is excellent!! well done that man kev.. --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > Hello Chaps! > > It's late at night (for me in the UK!) and I only have 5 new seeds > uploading the '3 of 17' torrent but I'm going to initiate the fourth > torrent now because time is tight! > > For some reason I keep getting an error while trying to upload on > the 'Pirate Bay' site (keeps telling me that my torrent is broken). > This is after some new updates to the 'Pirate Bay' site. > > I successfully uploaded my torrent with 'Mininova' so go for it! > > Community minded members of the group Phil and Roger have guaranteed > to continue uploading torrents 1 and 2 so I would like one member to > put their hand up and declare they will keep the 'John Peel Torrent > Compilation 3 of 17' on their hard drive for the next few weeks so > we can guarantee a good number of copies spreading throughout the > community - who's gonna help us out? > > I'm kinda new to BitTorrent but I understand that it's best to give > just one torrent a high upload rate at the expense of the others > you're downloading. > So, if you are downloading five files and a JP torrent is one of > them - limit the upload of the others to the bare minimum and upload > Peelie at your maximum rate. This helps distribute the file amongst > the Peel community and improves your stats at the same time! Win Win > situation! > > Cheers! > > Dee Dee > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From martinw@... Thu Nov 1 13:11:41 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:11:41 +0000 Subject: A Torrent Of Torrents Message-ID: Examining the contents of the Torrents 1 & 2 Are Festive 50s 3-7 Are various sessions - mostly not really early ones and usually just one or two sessions even for the people who have done a lot It's someone's collection so a lot of people won't have these 8-16 Are shows and look suspiciously like the contents of Phil's server. If someone could confirm this it might save you the bother of putting them up since the files are still available from the server 17 Is bits and pieces including the much desired (by me at any rate) Peelenium martinw From paul@... Thu Nov 1 13:28:13 2007 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:28:13 -0000 Subject: [peel] A Torrent Of Torrents In-Reply-To: <0MKxMK-1InYtt09jS-00035D@...> Message-ID: I had a quick look at what is on DVD 8 from the tracklistings supplied - and while there is some commonality with Phil's FTP server, there is more on the DVD (I compared years up to 88). Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > Martin Wheatley > Sent: 01 November 2007 12:12 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] A Torrent Of Torrents > > > Examining the contents of the Torrents > > 1 & 2 Are Festive 50s > > 3-7 Are various sessions - mostly not really > early ones and usually just one or two sessions > even for the people who have done a lot > It's someone's collection so a lot of people > won't have these > > 8-16 Are shows and look suspiciously like the > contents of Phil's server. If someone could confirm > this it might save you the bother of putting them up > since the files are still available from the server > > 17 Is bits and pieces including the much desired > (by me at any rate) Peelenium > > > martinw > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > From robfleay@... Thu Nov 1 13:53:08 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:53:08 +0000 Subject: [peel] A Torrent Of Torrents Message-ID: <20071101125308.TMMH29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > 3-7 Are various sessions - mostly not really > early ones and usually just one or two sessions > even for the people who have done a lot > It's someone's collection so a lot of people > won't have these I recognise some of the sessions as ones I've ripped from old tapes and set free via soulseek over the past few years - and then some of the other sessions are blatantly rips of commercially available Peel Sessions CDs ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From thebarguest@... Thu Nov 1 17:24:02 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:24:02 -0000 Subject: A Torrent Of Torrents Message-ID: Yes, I'm also looking forward to dvd 17 because of the Peelenium ; I suspect I've already got what I want from the other disks. What a great gesture from Dee Dee aka RivingTon ! Thank u ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > Examining the contents of the Torrents > > 1 & 2 Are Festive 50s > > 3-7 Are various sessions - mostly not really > early ones and usually just one or two sessions > even for the people who have done a lot > It's someone's collection so a lot of people > won't have these > > 8-16 Are shows and look suspiciously like the > contents of Phil's server. If someone could confirm > this it might save you the bother of putting them up > since the files are still available from the server > > 17 Is bits and pieces including the much desired > (by me at any rate) Peelenium > > > martinw > From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 1 21:13:53 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:13:53 -0000 Subject: Peelenium Message-ID: Hello guys! If there's a clamour for the Peelenium episodes found on DVD 17 then I'll post that Torrent next! I hope that the present torrent (John Peel Torrent Compilation 4 of 17) is finished by tomorrow morning as it's running on my laptop and I need to take it down to London with me. (I'm going to be away 'til Tuesday). I'm booked in hotels with high speed internet but I don't suppose I'll be able to do any port forwarding so who know how fast my BitTorrent upload rate will be?! I'll see a few users complete torrent 4 of 17 then I'll post 17 of 17. I'm glad that people are finding these torrents worthwhile! I look forward to checking out SoulSeek at some point to see what's available over there! Cheers, Dee Dee From ken_garner@... Thu Nov 1 23:39:36 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:39:36 -0000 Subject: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've now found the time to go through the list of audio files and tracks on that torrent listing posted here for the Peelenium, and thought I should acknowledge straight up (before someone else tells me!) that there are a small number of discrepancies between those listings and the master PEELENIUM list I got from show producer of the time Anita Kamath and assistant lynntheofficejunior macarthy, and which readers will therefore find in THE PEEL SESSIONS book. There are 2 minor errors it has alerted me to in my book, which I now discover I had correct in my copy but which got formatted wrong and I missed on the pdf proofs, which I read on a laptop sitting in the market place at Vevey on the shores of Lake Geneva on my summer holiday (we just ran out of time for hard copy proofs). In my defence I spotted many other such glitches, but missed these: 1931, title is 'Oh Donna Clara'; 1939, title is 'I Don't Know'. There also appears to be a disagreement over whose version of 'Silver Dollar' was played in 1950 - script says Eve Young, torrent says Teresa Brewer, who wrote it. These, however, are minor matters compared to the following. Can someone help me as to the provenance and form of these audio files: are they, in other words, genuine complete recordings from off air, including Peel's back announce of the records featured? I do not have the time or patience to work out how to download these things and how to listen to them myself - baffled old hack tries to insert C90 in laptop USB slot, etc - and I have no idea who is right, but we may be able to sort this fairly easily, for several of the respective shows just happen to be ones in the BBC archive. I shall forward this message to Radio 1 archivist Hannah as well as Anita and see if anything pops up. And some of you might know too. OK, here we go: Peelenium for... 1962 TX Mon 25/10/99 (in BBC archive) TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: Elvis Presley - Return to Sender Marvin Gaye - Stubborn Kind Of Fellow Cliff Richard & The Shadows - We Say Yeah Del Shannon - Hats Off To Larry BUT THIRD TRACK BY CLIFF RICHARD IS MISSING FROM SCRIPT/MY BOOK: WAS IT PLAYED? SCRIPT SUGGESTS ONLY 3 TRACKS FOR 62... 1978 TX Tue 30/11/99 TORRENT AND MASTER LIST AGREE ON THESE 4 TRACKS: Magazine - Shot By Both Sides The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby Culture - See Them A Come The Undertones - Teenage Kicks BUT TORRENT ALSO HAS A 5TH TRACK: Prince Far I - No More War PROBABLY FROM HIS PEEL SESSION? 1984 TX Tue 14/12/99, or possibly Wed 15/12/99 (in archive) TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: The Mighty Wah - Come Back The Fall - Lay Of The Land Half Pint - Money Man Skank BUT SCRIPTS DO NOT LIST HALF PINT BUT HAVE INSTEAD AS 3RD TRACK Billy Bragg - Between the Wars The Smiths - Reel Around The Fountain 1985 TX Wed 15/12/99 (in BBC archive) or possibly Th 16/12/99 TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand Billy Bragg - Between the Wars Roxanne shante - The Queen Of Rox The Wedding Present - Go Out and Get 'em Boy! BUT INSTEAD OF THE LAST THREE TRACKS, THE MASTER LIST SAYS IT WAS: Gut Of The Quantifier The Fall I'm In Pittsburgh & It's Raining Vibes IE 3 TRACKS ONLY FOR THIS YEAR 1986 TX Th 16/12/99, or possibly Tues 21/12/99 (in archive) TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: Salt 'N Pepa - Tramp Half Man Half Biscuit - Trumpton Riots Billy Bragg - Levi Stubbs' Tears Culture - Capture Rasta BUT MASTER LIST HAS INSTEAD OF SALT N PEPA 'Bournemouth Runner' by THE FALL so what really happened? ken From festive50@... Fri Nov 2 01:12:07 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:12:07 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh dear Ken! Here we go again. I was planning on putting my tapes back in order this weekend after digging out various tapes for "that damned book" {:�) So I'll have a look and see if I have the relevant shows. Phil P.S. Received the books today, will get cheque off to you this weekend. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ken garner Sent: 01 November 2007 22:40 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: Peelenium I've now found the time to go through the list of audio files and tracks on that torrent listing posted here for the Peelenium, and thought I should acknowledge straight up (before someone else tells me!) that there are a small number of discrepancies between those listings and the master PEELENIUM list I got from show producer of the time Anita Kamath and assistant lynntheofficejunior macarthy, and which readers will therefore find in THE PEEL SESSIONS book. There are 2 minor errors it has alerted me to in my book, which I now discover I had correct in my copy but which got formatted wrong and I missed on the pdf proofs, which I read on a laptop sitting in the market place at Vevey on the shores of Lake Geneva on my summer holiday (we just ran out of time for hard copy proofs). In my defence I spotted many other such glitches, but missed these: 1931, title is 'Oh Donna Clara'; 1939, title is 'I Don't Know'. There also appears to be a disagreement over whose version of 'Silver Dollar' was played in 1950 - script says Eve Young, torrent says Teresa Brewer, who wrote it. These, however, are minor matters compared to the following. Can someone help me as to the provenance and form of these audio files: are they, in other words, genuine complete recordings from off air, including Peel's back announce of the records featured? I do not have the time or patience to work out how to download these things and how to listen to them myself - baffled old hack tries to insert C90 in laptop USB slot, etc - and I have no idea who is right, but we may be able to sort this fairly easily, for several of the respective shows just happen to be ones in the BBC archive. I shall forward this message to Radio 1 archivist Hannah as well as Anita and see if anything pops up. And some of you might know too. OK, here we go: Peelenium for... 1962 TX Mon 25/10/99 (in BBC archive) TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: Elvis Presley - Return to Sender Marvin Gaye - Stubborn Kind Of Fellow Cliff Richard & The Shadows - We Say Yeah Del Shannon - Hats Off To Larry BUT THIRD TRACK BY CLIFF RICHARD IS MISSING FROM SCRIPT/MY BOOK: WAS IT PLAYED? SCRIPT SUGGESTS ONLY 3 TRACKS FOR 62... 1978 TX Tue 30/11/99 TORRENT AND MASTER LIST AGREE ON THESE 4 TRACKS: Magazine - Shot By Both Sides The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby Culture - See Them A Come The Undertones - Teenage Kicks BUT TORRENT ALSO HAS A 5TH TRACK: Prince Far I - No More War PROBABLY FROM HIS PEEL SESSION? 1984 TX Tue 14/12/99, or possibly Wed 15/12/99 (in archive) TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: The Mighty Wah - Come Back The Fall - Lay Of The Land Half Pint - Money Man Skank BUT SCRIPTS DO NOT LIST HALF PINT BUT HAVE INSTEAD AS 3RD TRACK Billy Bragg - Between the Wars The Smiths - Reel Around The Fountain 1985 TX Wed 15/12/99 (in BBC archive) or possibly Th 16/12/99 TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand Billy Bragg - Between the Wars Roxanne shante - The Queen Of Rox The Wedding Present - Go Out and Get 'em Boy! BUT INSTEAD OF THE LAST THREE TRACKS, THE MASTER LIST SAYS IT WAS: Gut Of The Quantifier The Fall I'm In Pittsburgh & It's Raining Vibes IE 3 TRACKS ONLY FOR THIS YEAR 1986 TX Th 16/12/99, or possibly Tues 21/12/99 (in archive) TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: Salt 'N Pepa - Tramp Half Man Half Biscuit - Trumpton Riots Billy Bragg - Levi Stubbs' Tears Culture - Capture Rasta BUT MASTER LIST HAS INSTEAD OF SALT N PEPA 'Bournemouth Runner' by THE FALL so what really happened? ken From ken_garner@... Fri Nov 2 07:59:48 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:59:48 -0000 Subject: Peelenium - no need, Phil, really! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: don't go to all that trouble, please Phil. Perhaps I should just buy that one DVD from the torrent man's site and listen myself! ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > Oh dear Ken! > Here we go again. > I was planning on putting my tapes back in order this weekend after digging > out various tapes for "that damned book" {:¬) > So I'll have a look and see if I have the relevant shows. > Phil > P.S. > Received the books today, will get cheque off to you this weekend. > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ken > garner > Sent: 01 November 2007 22:40 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: Peelenium > > > I've now found the time to go through the list of audio files and > tracks on that torrent listing posted here for the Peelenium, and > thought I should acknowledge straight up (before someone else tells > me!) that there are a small number of discrepancies between those > listings and the master PEELENIUM list I got from show producer of > the time Anita Kamath and assistant lynntheofficejunior macarthy, and > which readers will therefore find in THE PEEL SESSIONS book. There > are 2 minor errors it has alerted me to in my book, which I now > discover I had correct in my copy but which got formatted wrong and I > missed on the pdf proofs, which I read on a laptop sitting in the > market place at Vevey on the shores of Lake Geneva on my summer > holiday (we just ran out of time for hard copy proofs). In my defence > I spotted many other such glitches, but missed these: 1931, title > is 'Oh Donna Clara'; 1939, title is 'I Don't Know'. There also > appears to be a disagreement over whose version of 'Silver Dollar' > was played in 1950 - script says Eve Young, torrent says Teresa > Brewer, who wrote it. > > These, however, are minor matters compared to the following. Can > someone help me as to the provenance and form of these audio files: > are they, in other words, genuine complete recordings from off air, > including Peel's back announce of the records featured? I do not have > the time or patience to work out how to download these things and how > to listen to them myself - baffled old hack tries to insert C90 in > laptop USB slot, etc - and I have no idea who is right, but we may be > able to sort this fairly easily, for several of the respective shows > just happen to be ones in the BBC archive. I shall forward this > message to Radio 1 archivist Hannah as well as Anita and see if > anything pops up. And some of you might know too. OK, here we go: > > Peelenium for... > > 1962 > TX Mon 25/10/99 (in BBC archive) > TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: > Elvis Presley - Return to Sender > Marvin Gaye - Stubborn Kind Of Fellow > Cliff Richard & The Shadows - We Say Yeah > Del Shannon - Hats Off To Larry > BUT THIRD TRACK BY CLIFF RICHARD IS MISSING FROM SCRIPT/MY BOOK: WAS > IT PLAYED? SCRIPT SUGGESTS ONLY 3 TRACKS FOR 62... > > 1978 > TX Tue 30/11/99 > TORRENT AND MASTER LIST AGREE ON THESE 4 TRACKS: > Magazine - Shot By Both Sides > The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby > Culture - See Them A Come > The Undertones - Teenage Kicks > BUT TORRENT ALSO HAS A 5TH TRACK: > Prince Far I - No More War PROBABLY FROM HIS PEEL SESSION? > > 1984 > TX Tue 14/12/99, or possibly Wed 15/12/99 (in archive) > TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: > The Mighty Wah - Come Back > The Fall - Lay Of The Land > Half Pint - Money Man Skank > BUT SCRIPTS DO NOT LIST HALF PINT BUT HAVE INSTEAD AS 3RD TRACK Billy > Bragg - Between the Wars > The Smiths - Reel Around The Fountain > > 1985 > TX Wed 15/12/99 (in BBC archive) or possibly Th 16/12/99 > TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: > The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand > Billy Bragg - Between the Wars > Roxanne shante - The Queen Of Rox > The Wedding Present - Go Out and Get 'em Boy! > BUT INSTEAD OF THE LAST THREE TRACKS, THE MASTER LIST SAYS IT WAS: > Gut Of The Quantifier The Fall > I'm In Pittsburgh & It's Raining Vibes > IE 3 TRACKS ONLY FOR THIS YEAR > > 1986 > TX Th 16/12/99, or possibly Tues 21/12/99 (in archive) > TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: > Salt 'N Pepa - Tramp > Half Man Half Biscuit - Trumpton Riots > Billy Bragg - Levi Stubbs' Tears > Culture - Capture Rasta > BUT MASTER LIST HAS INSTEAD OF SALT N PEPA 'Bournemouth Runner' by > THE FALL > > so what really happened? > > ken > From ken_garner@... Fri Nov 2 15:42:37 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:42:37 -0000 Subject: R1's archivist confirms 1985 Peelenium track listing Message-ID: Just heard from Hannah at R1. She has already been able to listen online this morning at her desk internally to the digitally-archived show featuring the 1978 Peelenium, and confirms it definitely only had 4 tracks, concluding with Teenage Kicks. So that's that one sorted. Can't think how the Prince Far-I slipped in to the torrent list, then. All the other appropriate shows appear to be in the R1 archive she says, apart from the 1985 (prob. TX Wed 15/12/99?), so I hope someone else can help on that one, and she is calling the rest up on CD and will work through them for us as and when they reach her. That's the thing about the BBC: wonderful individuals, shame about the corporate culture at the top! more as soon as I get it - ken From ken_garner@... Fri Nov 2 16:28:29 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:28:29 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... Message-ID: Peelenium 1984 was available to listen online, she reports - it's definitely Half Pint, and not Billy Bragg. So that's one point to the torrent recording, and a glitch in the documentation and the book. Peelenium 1984 confirmed therefore as actually: The Mighty Wah - Come Back The Fall - Lay Of The Land Half Pint - Money Man Skank The Smiths - Reel Around The Fountain And oops, she now finds it's actually Peelenium 1986 (TX TX Th 16/12/99, or possibly Tues 21/12/99) that R1 doesn't have in the archive, not 1985! ken From rsbj66@... Fri Nov 2 16:45:33 2007 From: rsbj66@... (Richard Shaw Brown) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:45:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: JP quote - on air In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <299332.11493.qm@...> "This (I Can Take U 2 the Sun by The Misunderstood) is to my mind the best popular record that's ever been recorded" --- John Peel, TOP GEAR (BBC Radio) Nov. 8, 1968 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From rsbj66@... Fri Nov 2 21:59:24 2007 From: rsbj66@... (Richard Shaw Brown) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:59:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: John Peel said in 2003... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <278981.41612.qm@...> On the Spot: John Peel interview with Readers Digest: 2003 Q: "Which is the best band you have ever seen?" A: "The Misunderstood, from California!" Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From deedeeramain@... Sat Nov 3 10:18:49 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:18:49 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! John Peel Torrent Compilation 4 of 17 is now successfully seeded! We have 3 members of the community continuing to seed compilations 1, 2, and 3 to guarantee a few more copies so is there a volunteer who will continue Compilation 4 of 17 for us? I notice that there has been less people downloading Compilation 4 of 17 than the earlier files and wonder whether this is because I posted it on Mininova rather than Pirate Bay? Due to the interest in the 'Peelenium' which is contained on DVD 17, I've uploaded the John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 rather than 5 of 17. This file can be sourced from Mininova. Cheers! Dee Dee From Phyll@... Sat Nov 3 12:10:19 2007 From: Phyll@... (Phyll@...) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:10:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: [peel] This new fangled bittorrent business... Message-ID: <25448033.633811194088219274.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005> So i've downloaded bittorrent (to my mac) and a search for peel brings up nothing.... how do i join the fun? From tb666xx@... Sat Nov 3 17:04:44 2007 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <591509.46265.qm@...> thanks for posting!...but has anyone else had any problems?? when this downloads none of the tracks are what they say they are??? thye are just random snippets of shows...is it just me??? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From roger.carruthers@... Sat Nov 3 17:36:38 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:36:38 +0000 Subject: [peel] This new fangled bittorrent business... In-Reply-To: <25448033.633811194088219274.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005> Message-ID: 1. Go to mininova.org and/or thepiratebay.org and search for ŒJohn Peel¹. 2. Click on the little download arrow next to the name of the torrent files you want, to download them. 3. You then use your bittorrent client (in your case, BitTorrent, though I¹d also suggest you check out Transmission or BitsOnWheels, which are good Mac clients) to open the torrent files; tell it where you want to save the downloads to (preferably a BIG hard drive), then sit back and wait ­ probably for several days! Once you have opened one torrent with your client, your Mac will associate the files with the client, so you can simply double-click on any torrent files to start downloading them. Hth, Cheers Roger On 3/11/07 11:10, "Phyll@....co.uk" wrote: > > > > > > So i've downloaded bittorrent (to my mac) and a search for peel brings up > nothing.... how do i join the fun? > > > From martinw@... Sat Nov 3 17:38:05 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:38:05 +0000 Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: <591509.46265.qm@...> References: <591509.46265.qm@...> Message-ID: At 16:04 03/11/2007, you wrote: >thanks for posting!...but has anyone else had any problems?? when this >downloads none of the tracks are what they say they are??? thye are >just random snippets of shows...is it just me??? I think most of us are still back downloading 1 and 2! martinw From tb666xx@... Sat Nov 3 19:02:58 2007 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: <526125.67629.qm@...> Im actually dling 4 haven't done 1-3 yet,,,,,,... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From deedeeramain@... Sun Nov 4 01:14:03 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: <53628.78952.qm@...> Hello Tim! So far the DVDs / torrents have just been the Peel sessions so yes they are just random snippets of featured artists. I think the actual shows start on DVD / torrent 7 or 8. Cheers, Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Brooks To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2007 4:04:44 PM Subject: Re: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! thanks for posting!...but has anyone else had any problems?? when this downloads none of the tracks are what they say they are??? thye are just random snippets of shows...is it just me??? ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tb666xx@... Sun Nov 4 01:58:51 2007 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: <53628.78952.qm@...> Message-ID: <31074.64776.qm@...> what I think I mean is that say the joy division session isn't actually the joy division session.... its something totally different....does that make sense???....I have a ton on soulseek (user tb666)...not online right now, but I have hundreds of shows and sessions..tho dee dee, you have lots I don't have..... thnx again for the uploads __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tb666xx@... Sun Nov 4 04:00:00 2007 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 17 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: <53628.78952.qm@...> Message-ID: <704541.12400.qm@...> dee dee and all...... it seems I was hearing things...once the torrent finished all was well./..thanks for the AMAZING uploads...I have a ton os sessions but this is amazing.....some blasts from the past!!!!...thanks you __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jt.gray@... Sun Nov 4 11:07:54 2007 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:07:54 +0000 Subject: This new fangled bittorrent business... Message-ID: <2DFE2298-AA59-49A3-9EBE-719E50CA5590@...> Can I (belatedly) send my huge thankyou for all this! And I too have a Mac and have had no problem with these downloads. The switch to Mininova threw me a bit, and the ads are a little intrusive, but it works fine. Just make sure you go to Mininova.org - there seem to be other Mininova sites. I can't guarantee to keep stuff live continuously, but whenever I can I open up the previous volumes to seed them. If enough people do the same, the torrents should keep rolling at a decent speed. This is one of the the most generous communities I have come across on the net - keep it up, we owe it to the man himself. John Gray From dekoder1982@... Sun Nov 4 11:47:35 2007 From: dekoder1982@... (dekoder1982) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:47:35 -0000 Subject: Some Velvet Morning 2007-11-02 mit Psychedelic Furs (Peel Session), 4AD,... Message-ID: Some Velvet Morning 2007-11-02 Herbst IV mit Jan Rose

01 The Stars- The night starts here 02 Dave Gahan- Kingdom 03 Dave Gahan- Miracles 04 Underworld- Glam bucket 05 Lawrence- Compulsion (Dial) 06 Psychedelic Furs- Sister Europe (Peel Session) 07 Blonde Redhead- 23 (4AD) 08 This Mortal Coil- The jeweler (4AD) 09 Cocteau Twins- The thinner the air (4AD) 10 Cocteau Twins- Lotterley (4AD) 11 Cocteau Twins- Donimo (4AD) 12 This Mortal Coil- Come here my love (4AD) 13 Bauhaus- Crowds (4AD) 14 Minimal Compact- Disguise 15 Minimal Compact- When i go 16 Minimal Compact- Piece of green 17 Jesus And The Mary Chain- Happy when it rains 18 Psychedelic Furs- Imitation of Christ (Peel session) 19 The Cure- The drowning man (Live 1980, Duesseldorf) 20 Cecilia eyes- 100 million whales 21 Susan Diehim /Richard Horowitz- Desert equations (Made to measure) Listen again www.janrose.de From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 4 22:20:59 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:20:59 -0000 Subject: new peel shows Message-ID: hello everyone, back at the end of 2004 i coverted all the shows i had of peel on various c-90 to mp3 files, most of these fitted on 3 cdr's and i sold 10 copys of each set on e- bay (i can hear the tuts aready)at only £5 (free p+p) the posative effect of this was that 2 of the guys who bought these sets sent me stuff back. anyway let's get to the point........... myself and spiggytopes would like to share these 20+ shows with the group,as we think many have never been put up on any website before! so if you pop over to mininova and type 810514 Peel Programme you should get our first try at a torrent, these have been taken from recently discovered reel to reel tapes, the speed is a little out on some editions but if played on windows media player you can adjust for you listening pleasure,,,or just pretend that everythings at the wrong speed... again thanks to peel group member spiggytopes for this edition more to follow if it a goes well!! kevin From so_it_goes_2512@... Mon Nov 5 05:15:54 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:15:54 -0000 Subject: new peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When I tried this, only 1 peer was online with 65% completed: are you intending to seed again? little point otherwise. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > hello everyone, > > back at the end of 2004 i coverted all the shows i had of peel on > various c-90 to mp3 files, > > most of these fitted on 3 cdr's and i sold 10 copys of each set on e- > bay (i can hear the tuts aready)at only £5 (free p+p) > > the posative effect of this was that 2 of the guys who bought these > sets sent me stuff back. > > anyway let's get to the point........... > > myself and spiggytopes would like to share these 20+ shows with the > group,as we think many have never been put up on any website before! > > so if you pop over to mininova and type 810514 Peel Programme > > you should get our first try at a torrent, > > these have been taken from recently discovered reel to reel tapes, > > the speed is a little out on some editions but if played on windows > media player you can adjust for you listening pleasure,,,or just > pretend that everythings at the wrong speed... > > again thanks to peel group member spiggytopes for this edition > > more to follow if it a goes well!! > > > kevin > From kevin_beech@... Mon Nov 5 07:46:27 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:46:27 -0000 Subject: new peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: broadband was down last night back up and running now!! -- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > When I tried this, only 1 peer was online with 65% completed: are you > intending to seed again? little point otherwise. > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > hello everyone, > > > > back at the end of 2004 i coverted all the shows i had of peel on > > various c-90 to mp3 files, > > > > most of these fitted on 3 cdr's and i sold 10 copys of each set on > e- > > bay (i can hear the tuts aready)at only £5 (free p+p) > > > > the posative effect of this was that 2 of the guys who bought these > > sets sent me stuff back. > > > > anyway let's get to the point........... > > > > myself and spiggytopes would like to share these 20+ shows with the > > group,as we think many have never been put up on any website before! > > > > so if you pop over to mininova and type 810514 Peel Programme > > > > you should get our first try at a torrent, > > > > these have been taken from recently discovered reel to reel tapes, > > > > the speed is a little out on some editions but if played on windows > > media player you can adjust for you listening pleasure,,,or just > > pretend that everythings at the wrong speed... > > > > again thanks to peel group member spiggytopes for this edition > > > > more to follow if it a goes well!! > > > > > > kevin > > > From hubcity@... 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This week, our Grinders (the stuff we play heavily) include music from: - Cut Off Your Hands - The Go! Team - The Charlatans UK - Emma Pollock - Shy Child - Radiohead Plus we've got newly-added music: - The Chiara L's - Kate's Kid - The Hives - Tick Tick Boom - Hot Chip - Shake A Fist - Jakobinarina - This Is An Advertisement - Lowlife - Monitors - Milburn - What Will You Do (When The Money Goes) - Motel Creeps - Restless - Mum - They Made Frogs Smoke Til They Exploded - The Never - Cavity - Operator Please - Crash-Tragic - Pinback - From Nothing To Nowhere - Carolyn Selheim - Quite Like Me - They Came From The Stars (I Saw Them) - It's Always Boomtime (Part One) - The World Record - We're Number One Our Featured Classics: - Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen In Love - The Chemical Brothers - Setting Sons - Dramarama - Work For Food - Happy Mondays - Hallelujah (Andrew Weatherall Club Mix) - The Invisible Cities - Instaglo - Ladytron - Destroy Everything You Touch - Nada Surf - Popular - The Smithereens - Much Too Much - Ultravox - Vienna As always, thanks for listening! - Sean Carolan Altrok Radio On your computer right now at http://www.altrokradio.com On the radio Fridays at 10pm, at 90.5 The Night From roger.carruthers@... Mon Nov 5 14:22:30 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:22:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [OT] Thanks Dandelion In-Reply-To: <0JR10042YAQYBCF0@...> Message-ID: <443813.26613.qm@...> My apologies for the slighty OT post, but in the spirit of new music and nepotism, I was delighted to hear a track by my step-son Michael, a.k.a D-face, played on Dandelion Radio on Sunday. Being web radio, you'll have not one, but several chances to hear it again, so be sure to tune it to Andy Morrison's show this month and check it out - a storming little number it was too. I'd like to think our John would have liked it, cheers Roger From deedeeramain@... Mon Nov 5 17:17:56 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:17:56 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 5 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! Just started uploading 5 of 17. I'm leaving London for oop North tomorrow morning so there may be a short interruption until I can get plugged back in again. Cheers! Dee Dee From deedeeramain@... Mon Nov 5 17:19:22 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:19:22 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 5 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oops! Should have mentioned that you can initiate your D/L at Mininova! DeeDee From festive50@... Tue Nov 6 00:47:44 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:47:44 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peelenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ken Checked 1 of my tapes so far and can confirm 15/12/99 - 1985 -(Beulah in session) was the following :- The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand Billy Bragg - Between the Wars Roxanne shante - The Queen Of Rox The Wedding Present - Go Out and Get 'em Boy! Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ken garner Sent: 01 November 2007 22:40 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: Peelenium 1985 TX Wed 15/12/99 (in BBC archive) or possibly Th 16/12/99 TORRENT SAYS IT WAS: The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand Billy Bragg - Between the Wars Roxanne shante - The Queen Of Rox The Wedding Present - Go Out and Get 'em Boy! BUT INSTEAD OF THE LAST THREE TRACKS, THE MASTER LIST SAYS IT WAS: Gut Of The Quantifier The Fall I'm In Pittsburgh & It's Raining Vibes IE 3 TRACKS ONLY FOR THIS YEAR Recent Activity a.. 3New Members Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Instant hello Chat in real-time with your friends. Best of Y! Groups Check it out and nominate your group to be featured. Stay in Shape on Yahoo! Groups Find a fitness Group & get motivated. . From thebarguest@... Tue Nov 6 01:04:26 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:04:26 -0000 Subject: new peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow - what a nice surprise, this being my "holy grail" Peel era (76 - 82) ! Using Audacity, I reduced the speed by 7% - sounds fine. Thanks for your generosity and efforts ! Adam Chance --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > hello everyone, > > back at the end of 2004 i coverted all the shows i had of peel on > various c-90 to mp3 files, > > most of these fitted on 3 cdr's and i sold 10 copys of each set on e- > bay (i can hear the tuts aready)at only £5 (free p+p) > > the posative effect of this was that 2 of the guys who bought these > sets sent me stuff back. > > anyway let's get to the point........... > > myself and spiggytopes would like to share these 20+ shows with the > group,as we think many have never been put up on any website before! > > so if you pop over to mininova and type 810514 Peel Programme > > you should get our first try at a torrent, > > these have been taken from recently discovered reel to reel tapes, > > the speed is a little out on some editions but if played on windows > media player you can adjust for you listening pleasure,,,or just > pretend that everythings at the wrong speed... > > again thanks to peel group member spiggytopes for this edition > > more to follow if it a goes well!! > > > kevin > From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 01:18:21 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:18:21 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > And oops, she now finds it's actually Peelenium 1986 (TX TX Th > 16/12/99, or possibly Tues 21/12/99) that R1 doesn't have in the > archive, not 1985! > ken Hello I've just listened to /converted this show from cassette to wav/mp3. I'm in the process of creating a yousendit link (taking a while) but I'm not sure if it's frowned upon to post them directly to this message board. If so, I'll pass it on to one of the other sites for general distribution. I vividly remember listening to this show at the time because Peel is distraught at the start of the show as he passes on the news of the death of Teddy Warwick who he describes as being a 2nd father to him. If you google his name, there is VERY little to show for his efforts, which seems a real shame if you listen to Peel's comments in this show. The show has the Pacinos in session and the 1986 Peelenium incl Salt n Pepa, not the Fall, as it stated on the bbcwebpage at the time Can someone let me know if its ok to post links here direct please? Does this torrent dvd collection include the entire Peelenium? If there are any gaps I may be able to help fill them. Cheers And PS I'm really looking forward to the new sessions book, but am saving it for a real treat on christmas morning - Thankyou very much and well done Mr Garner! PPS The first link has just finished so here it is, the first ½ of the show http://download.yousendit.com/1745561665284B1C I'll do the other one soon, unless I'm in bother... From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 6 08:52:32 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:52:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Re: new peel shows Message-ID: <542271.18035.qm@...> Thanks Kevin for posting new material! I'm continuing to seed your contribution (although only at 5kb/s as I'm trying to use all my U/L bandwidth for distributing the torrents I have!). Thanks to the Barguest also for suggesting using Audacity to slow things down a tad - good tip! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 6:46:27 AM Subject: [peel] Re: new peel shows broadband was down last night back up and running now!! -- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "Steve" wrote: > > When I tried this, only 1 peer was online with 65% completed: are you > intending to seed again? little point otherwise. > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > hello everyone, > > > > back at the end of 2004 i coverted all the shows i had of peel on > > various c-90 to mp3 files, > > > > most of these fitted on 3 cdr's and i sold 10 copys of each set on > e- > > bay (i can hear the tuts aready)at only £5 (free p+p) > > > > the posative effect of this was that 2 of the guys who bought these > > sets sent me stuff back. > > > > anyway let's get to the point....... .... > > > > myself and spiggytopes would like to share these 20+ shows with the > > group,as we think many have never been put up on any website before! > > > > so if you pop over to mininova and type 810514 Peel Programme > > > > you should get our first try at a torrent, > > > > these have been taken from recently discovered reel to reel tapes, > > > > the speed is a little out on some editions but if played on windows > > media player you can adjust for you listening pleasure,,,or just > > pretend that everythings at the wrong speed... > > > > again thanks to peel group member spiggytopes for this edition > > > > more to follow if it a goes well!! > > > > > > kevin > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 6 08:54:48 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:54:48 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No frowning from this puppy! More conversions and links to Peel downloads please! Dee Dee From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 09:31:18 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:31:18 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ok, here's part 2 http://download.yousendit.com/98F6CFB90FC01BB9 like i said, if i'm causing any bother posting these here, let me know and i'll post them elsewhere Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > No frowning from this puppy! > > More conversions and links to Peel downloads please! > > Dee Dee > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 6 11:18:08 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:18:08 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for these: anyone care to tell me how to use Audacity for this? I have the programme, but am still a novice at it! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > ok, here's part 2 > http://download.yousendit.com/98F6CFB90FC01BB9 > > like i said, if i'm causing any bother posting these here, let me know > and i'll post them elsewhere > > Cheers > And > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > > > No frowning from this puppy! > > > > More conversions and links to Peel downloads please! > > > > Dee Dee > > > From ken_garner@... Tue Nov 6 11:28:18 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:28:18 -0000 Subject: 80s Peelenium discrepancies resolved, & Teddy Warrick remembered Message-ID: Thanks, Phil, and "And", for those independent checks, which show that in those 3 consecutive years of the Peelenium for the mid-80s, in that one week before Christmas 99, something obviously changed between Anita and Lynn's scripts and what John did on air (he would do that, wouldn't he?). Anita did tell me she remembered something about the Roxanne Shante track and was going to dig around for me. The one year we are waiting on is therefore 1962, 25/10/99, which is in the R1 archive if no-one else has it, so we should be able to sort that. Of course, it is always possible that on some of the latter years of the Peelenium for which the Torrent is incomplete, that one or two other errors may have crept into the script / my book version, but on balance I think this unlikely. It was just one week! KG PS. Re, And, your comments on: "I vividly remember listening to this show at the time because Peel is distraught at the start of the show as he passes on the news of the death of Teddy Warwick who he describes as being a 2nd father to him. If you google his name, there is VERY little to show for his efforts, which seems a real shame if you listen to Peel's comments in this show." That's right: Warrick (that's the correct sp.) is indeed a figure much loved and acclaimed by those who worked with him, but relatively invisible in most of the official histories and in general knowledge. I suspect this might be because "Uncle Teddy" as Peel's children knew him, was a diffident and discreet man, and when I interviewed him at Walters house for IST back in 92, I got very little hard quotable fact or anecdote from him, I regret to say. When one day I get round to reading the Radio 1 dept files up to 79 and beyond in the Written Archives, I am sure more will emerge to his credit. There are one or two nice stories about him in Johnny Walker's recent autobiography which again demonstrate his shrewdness. Teddy was the chief programme organiser in the old gramophone dept in Egton House, but who become one of the 3 exec producers, the second in command if you like , at R1 from 1970, and his job was to oversee all the evening and specialist shows, in which role he remained until his retirement in the late 80s. His support of John Walters and Peel kept the show on air more than once, KG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PEELENIUMs CONFIRMED: 1978 TX Tue 30/11/99 Magazine - Shot By Both Sides The Rezillos - I Can't Stand My Baby Culture - See Them A Come The Undertones - Teenage Kicks 1984 TX Tue 14/12/99 The Mighty Wah - Come Back The Fall - Lay Of The Land Half Pint - Money Man Skank The Smiths - Reel Around The Fountain 1985 TX Wed 15/12/99 The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand Billy Bragg - Between the Wars Roxanne Shante - The Queen Of Rox The Wedding Present - Go Out and Get 'em Boy! 1986 TX 16/12/99 Salt 'N Pepa - Tramp Half Man Half Biscuit - Trumpton Riots Billy Bragg - Levi Stubbs' Tears Culture - Capture Rasta From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 12:10:24 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:10:24 -0000 Subject: 80s Peelenium discrepancies resolved, & Teddy Warrick remembered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the additional info Ken. There's a pic of Teddy Warrick, Peel and others from 1979 here http://tv.cream.org/specialassignments/radiocream/arg1_jox.htm I'll try to dig out the 1962 show. Cheers And From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 12:46:30 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:46:30 -0000 Subject: 80s Peelenium discrepancies resolved, & Teddy Warrick remembered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > The one year we are waiting on is therefore 1962, 25/10/99, which is > in the R1 archive if no-one else has it, so we should be able to sort > that. Peelenium 1962 was: Return To Sender - Elvis Presley Stubborn Kinda Fellow - MarvinGaye We Say Yeah - Cliff Richard & The Shadows Hats Off To Larry - Del Shannon From thebarguest@... Tue Nov 6 12:52:56 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:52:56 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To reduce speed in Audacity : 1 import file via 'file'>'open' 2 'edit'>'select'>'all' 3 'effect'>'change speed' - enter -6, -7 or -8(according to taste) 4 'edit'>'preferences'>'file formats'>'bit rate'=320 4 'file'>'export selection as mp3' --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > Thanks for these: anyone care to tell me how to use Audacity for > this? I have the programme, but am still a novice at it! > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > > > ok, here's part 2 > > http://download.yousendit.com/98F6CFB90FC01BB9 > > > > like i said, if i'm causing any bother posting these here, let me > know > > and i'll post them elsewhere > > > > Cheers > > And > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > > > > > No frowning from this puppy! > > > > > > More conversions and links to Peel downloads please! > > > > > > Dee Dee > > > > > > From morriso@... Tue Nov 6 13:13:43 2007 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:13:43 -0000 Subject: [OT] Thanks Dandelion In-Reply-To: <443813.26613.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks for the positive comments Roger - glad to be of service. There's also a cracking new session from Autons this month - and don't forget to vote in the 2007 Festive Fifty: www.dandelionradio.com Cheers, Andy Morrison --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote: > > My apologies for the slighty OT post, but in the > spirit of new music and nepotism, I was delighted to > hear a track by my step-son Michael, a.k.a D-face, > played on Dandelion Radio on Sunday. > Being web radio, you'll have not one, but several > chances to hear it again, so be sure to tune it to > Andy Morrison's show this month and check it out - a > storming little number it was too. I'd like to think > our John would have liked it, > cheers > Roger > From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 13:17:11 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:17:11 -0000 Subject: 80s Peelenium discrepancies resolved, & Teddy Warrick remembered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This site http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/43.txt looks like it lists the correct Peelenium if you need to crosscheck any other tracklists Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > The one year we are waiting on is therefore 1962, 25/10/99, which is > > in the R1 archive if no-one else has it, so we should be able to > sort > > that. > > Peelenium 1962 was: > > Return To Sender - Elvis Presley > Stubborn Kinda Fellow - MarvinGaye > We Say Yeah - Cliff Richard & The Shadows > Hats Off To Larry - Del Shannon > From mastermazza@... Tue Nov 6 14:05:46 2007 From: mastermazza@... (mastermazza) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:05:46 -0000 Subject: Peel torrents Message-ID: A massive thanks for the uploads- I,m just on torrent 1 but can't wait to hear the music. I would gladly seed say torrent 4 but with my connection speed it takes about a week to get one DVD downloaded. Does anyone know where I can get the channel 4 documentary on John's record box or if it will be aired again? I would also recommend the Peel Sessions book by Garner I have just bought-a very informative and well written book. Best wishes, Newbie Pete From ken_garner@... Tue Nov 6 14:08:02 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:08:02 -0000 Subject: 80s Peelenium discrepancies resolved, & Teddy Warrick remembered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks! used those lists to check sessions and repeat dates for the shows index, forgot to do that for the Peelenium - which i thought i'd got from the source anyway. Oh well, trying to be philosophical, it's only 4 out of 101 installments where some of the details are not all there... k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > This site > http://www.avistic.demon.co.uk/playlists/1999/43.txt > looks like it lists the correct Peelenium if you need to crosscheck > any other tracklists > > Cheers > And > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > > The one year we are waiting on is therefore 1962, 25/10/99, > which is > > > in the R1 archive if no-one else has it, so we should be able to > > sort > > > that. > > > > Peelenium 1962 was: > > > > Return To Sender - Elvis Presley > > Stubborn Kinda Fellow - MarvinGaye > > We Say Yeah - Cliff Richard & The Shadows > > Hats Off To Larry - Del Shannon > > > From saipanda@... Tue Nov 6 15:02:42 2007 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:02:42 -0000 Subject: Many thanks Message-ID: Just wanted to add my thanks to everyone (specifically, Deedee, "And" and Kevin) for all the material that's recently become available. It's like Christmas came early! Things I've particularly liked so far: -On the DVD torrents, all the Festive 50 material, because I always love the F50, and now I've got Mark Whitby's book on the subject as well (great stuff!). -The 1982 show with Killing Joke and New Order sessions, because I'm another one of those old-timers with an especially strong fondness for the 78-82 period. Can't wait to hear what else might be coming up. -The 1999 show including the 1986 Peelenium, because it's really great to hear the comments and the whole thing in context of the show (eg, the Peelenium includes Levy Stubbs Tears and is followed by a Four Tops track, something he says he's always meant to do). This is the first show I have heard featuring the Peelenium, so hoping there's more out there (apart from in the BBC archives). Of course, looking forward to hearing what's on DVD Torrent 17. Also, the Audacity suggestion works great fo rme and I'm sure will be really brilliant as well for some other Peel show files I have that seem to be at slightly strange speeds. Thanks again, everyone! From mar.celle@... Tue Nov 6 15:05:49 2007 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:05:49 +0100 Subject: Today and this week on Another Nice Mess Message-ID: <000001c8207e$26f8d930$9600000a@PC154981710422> Hi there, today (live) and this week (listen again) on Another Nice Mess: Special: No Age: live Plus, new amazing records and cd's by amongst others: Pole, Marianne Nowottny, Jence, Numbers, Fenin, Doly Anol, Shrubbn!!, Kosh, B. Slave, Experimental Dental School, Venetian Snares, Mala, Scout Niblett, Frick The Cat, Istari Lasterfahrer, Ananie feat. Phlex, Intelligence, Das Bierbeben, Frivolous, Coki, Stankey Kubi, Anthem Red, Dub1 Requests by amongst others: Lonnie Donegan, Buzzcocks, The Residents, Novak, Quickspace There is room for more REQUESTS/oldies. For REQUESTS mail Marcelle at: info@... She broadcasts from home, so she might play your requested song (almost) instantly! ANOTHER NICE MESS ''Indispensable listening'' ''If you're missing Peel, allow this to feed you'' ''Marcelle could have been a great teacher in a class of (Mick Patrick, Scotland) (Sarah Nelson, England) 'curiousity'!'' (Peter-Max Jacobsen, Denmark) DFM Radio, 6th November 2007 Hostess: Marcelle van Hoof LISTEN LIVE online: www.dfm.nu every Tuesday between 19-22 hours CET (Dutch time) / 18-21 hours GMT (UK time) LISTEN AT ANY OTHER TIME via www.anothernicemess.com WEBSITE: www.anothernicemess.com (For PLAYLISTS, LISTENING AGAIN, DOWNLOADING PREVIOUS SHOWS, REVIEWS, INFORMATION, CONTACT ADDRESS and more) MYSPACE: www.myspace.com/djanothernicemess [You are receiving this Another Nice Mess message because you either subscribed to the mailing list and/or we have something in common - Good Underground Music! If you no longer want to hear from Another Nice Mess then please reply with the words 'Unsubscribe' in the subject box]. From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 16:04:50 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:04:50 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 - part 1of 6 Message-ID: I'm not sure if this is on the 17dvd set. If this is readily available elsewhere, please let me know and I'll concentrate on uploading some different shows. My Yousendit account is approaching 100% bandwidth (whatever that means) so I might have to wait a while before posting the next chunk. http://download.yousendit.com/A99785F113898377 Cheers And From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 6 16:51:38 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:38 -0000 Subject: The Best Of The Best Of The Best Message-ID: My name is Steve, and I run a blog called 'Teenage Kicks' exclusively devoted to the Festive Fifty. From now until December 10, I am featuring a poll modelled on John's chart called 'The Best Of The Best' in which anybody can vote for their three favourite tracks from the charts between 1976-2004. Visit here for more information, or you can just jump straight in and email me your choices at so.it.goes.2512@... . I look forward to seeing you there and also to receiving your choices! From thebarguest@... Tue Nov 6 18:01:11 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:01:11 -0000 Subject: how long is a piece of peel Message-ID: Sorry if this is a repeat topic, but how long was the Peel show around 1981 ? If the news/sport was on at 10pm then the time would be 2hrs minus about 3 mins. If they put the news/sport on just before 10pm then the JPS would have been exactly 2hrs/120 mins. From jt.gray@... Tue Nov 6 20:30:46 2007 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:30:46 +0000 Subject: This new fangled bittorrent business... Message-ID: Sorry - had to switch my computer off and so stopped seeding some torrents. Is there a way to pick them up again, or is it only possible when still connected after downloading? Actually, also have been unable to pick up where I left off downloading Compilation 5, and can't find a way to resume - have had to start again. Am I missing something, anyone know? John Gray From philip.gh@... Tue Nov 6 21:35:30 2007 From: philip.gh@... (phil) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:35:30 -0000 Subject: This new fangled bittorrent business... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As long as you haven't deleted or moved any of the torrents or downloaded files it should just pick up from where you left off after rebooting. At least that's how it works in Utorrent, which client are you using? Btw thanks again to everyone sharing files just now! Phil From spiggytopes55@... Tue Nov 6 22:46:22 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 21:46:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] how long is a piece of peel Message-ID: <680521.62600.qm@...> The news would have started at 22:00 therefore the programme is most likely 1hr 57 minutes or thereabouts. The reel to reels that Kev has started with mostly come in around 1hr 50 mins which is due to incorrect speed of the tape deck. Never the less, the whole programme, with news should be 2hrs. Julian aka Spiggytopes ----- Original Message ---- From: thebarguest To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 November, 2007 5:01:11 PM Subject: [peel] how long is a piece of peel Sorry if this is a repeat topic, but how long was the Peel show around 1981 ? If the news/sport was on at 10pm then the time would be 2hrs minus about 3 mins. If they put the news/sport on just before 10pm then the JPS would have been exactly 2hrs/120 mins. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From pontypoolie@... Tue Nov 6 23:57:10 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:57:10 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 2 of 6 Message-ID: http://download.yousendit.com/BD1CEA4C2F49C5A2 can anyone explain to me how yousendit's bandwidth limit works? currently well over 100% of my monthly limit, but still seems to be working ok? anyway, enjoy it while it lasts as I think the links will run out soon. i had a link to the ftp server a while back but have lost my link to it. if you know what i'm talking about and wouldn't mind inviting me again i'd be very grateful cheers And From thebarguest@... Wed Nov 7 00:21:33 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:21:33 -0000 Subject: how long is a piece of peel In-Reply-To: <680521.62600.qm@...> Message-ID: Thanks Julian. I feel an idiot, 'cause just after posting this query, I was re-listening to the May 81 mp3 and after the news/sport, the announcer-lass announced, "It's 2 minutes past 10". So the JP show was 118 mins ; the speed reduction of -7% gives a run-time of 118 mins 24 secs ! Thanks so much for the show - the audio quality is excellent - as good as (maybe better than) anything taped in the 90's/00's ....... More shows would make the starting winter more bearable (like global warming) ! Cheers, Benny Hawkins --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Julian Porter wrote: > > The news would have started at 22:00 therefore the programme is most likely 1hr 57 minutes or thereabouts. The reel to reels that Kev has started with mostly come in around 1hr 50 mins which is due to incorrect speed of the tape deck. Never the less, the whole programme, with news should be 2hrs. > > Julian > aka Spiggytopes > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: thebarguest > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, 6 November, 2007 5:01:11 PM > Subject: [peel] how long is a piece of peel > > Sorry if this is a repeat topic, but how long was the Peel show > around 1981 ? If the news/sport was on at 10pm then the time would > be 2hrs minus about 3 mins. If they put the news/sport on just before > 10pm then the JPS would have been exactly 2hrs/120 mins. > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > From spiggytopes55@... Wed Nov 7 02:06:29 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:06:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: how long is a piece of peel Message-ID: <518530.7661.qm@...> Benny, While I and Kev have copies of these (as does Michael), Kev seems to be the only one who understands the technology to pass these on. So Kev, the next one please (you might have to give up your day job, but hey! it's a small price to pay to keep others sane for winter mate). Let's all share all we have. Cheers, Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: thebarguest To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 November, 2007 11:21:33 PM Subject: [peel] Re: how long is a piece of peel Thanks Julian. I feel an idiot, 'cause just after posting this query, I was re-listening to the May 81 mp3 and after the news/sport, the announcer-lass announced, "It's 2 minutes past 10". So the JP show was 118 mins ; the speed reduction of -7% gives a run-time of 118 mins 24 secs ! Thanks so much for the show - the audio quality is excellent - as good as (maybe better than) anything taped in the 90's/00's ....... More shows would make the starting winter more bearable (like global warming) ! Cheers, Benny Hawkins --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Julian Porter wrote: > > The news would have started at 22:00 therefore the programme is most likely 1hr 57 minutes or thereabouts. The reel to reels that Kev has started with mostly come in around 1hr 50 mins which is due to incorrect speed of the tape deck. Never the less, the whole programme, with news should be 2hrs. > > Julian > aka Spiggytopes > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: thebarguest > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Tuesday, 6 November, 2007 5:01:11 PM > Subject: [peel] how long is a piece of peel > > Sorry if this is a repeat topic, but how long was the Peel show > around 1981 ? If the news/sport was on at 10pm then the time would > be 2hrs minus about 3 mins. If they put the news/sport on just before > 10pm then the JPS would have been exactly 2hrs/120 mins. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it > now. > http://uk.answers. yahoo.com/ > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From domesticempire@... Wed Nov 7 06:08:37 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Gary) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:08:37 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 2 of 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > http://download.yousendit.com/BD1CEA4C2F49C5A2 > > can anyone explain to me how yousendit's bandwidth limit works? > currently well over 100% of my monthly limit, but still seems to be > working ok? > > anyway, enjoy it while it lasts as I think the links will run out > soon. > > i had a link to the ftp server a while back but have lost my link to > it. if you know what i'm talking about and wouldn't mind inviting me > again i'd be very grateful > > cheers > And > I imagine the 100% limit refers to your ability to download without any waiting limits as oppossed to non-members. I shouldn't think this will have any effect on your upload capacity as making files available is how these file storage sites generate their revenue. I think that's more or less how my rapidshare account works as do most others. Likewise anything uploaded will probably follow the usual '...will remain active if downloaded in the last X numbers of days', where 'x' is usually 30. I'm losing track of which Peel files I have but I'm reasonably certain I don't have these - not as a single compilation at least. Thank you very much for sharing. It is most appreciated (",). Kind regards gary http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ From roger.carruthers@... Wed Nov 7 10:58:12 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:58:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: File naming convention? Message-ID: <65790.49968.qm@...> We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd just like to drop something into the mix that's been on my mind for a while; Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my hard drive, I have things with names like: 1979-12-12a.mp3 BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - Cassette Two Side A.mp3 JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 etc. etc. In order to know what I actually have and don't have, I've started renaming them all in the following format: Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 or for Festive Fifty's: FF03(5-32).mp3 Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such convention for files we share ? The format I'm using is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a minute I'll be adding to the pot, cheers Roger From jt.gray@... Wed Nov 7 11:15:14 2007 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:15:14 +0000 Subject: This new fangled bittorrent business... Message-ID: >>As long as you haven't deleted or moved any of the torrents or downloaded files it should just pick up from where you left off after rebooting. At least that's how it works in Utorrent, which client are you using? Phil - you are absolutely correct. I don't know what I was doing before, but I have picked up all torrents now, no problem. Thanks - you at least made me investigate properly! John Gray From koogy@... Wed Nov 7 13:18:39 2007 From: koogy@... (Andrew Dean) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:18:39 +0000 Subject: Cheers Ken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: book arrived from amazon yesterday and is a thing of beauty. love the cassette theme running throughout (spent most of peel listening years hearing the show a day late via a week's worth of C120s, siphoning off the interesting bits as required, so it strikes a chord). loved the little glimpses of bbc proforma even. great photos. first chapter still hard to get through 3 years later. thanks for the mention(s) too, parents were (vaguely) impressed. one question. is louise really 7ft tall like she appears in that one picture? 8) ok, this list can now go back to file swapping on industrial levels. wake me up when it's over. cheers andy From kevin_beech@... Wed Nov 7 17:14:49 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:14:49 -0000 Subject: peel shows Message-ID: hi everyone, thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? let us know and i'll post some tonight! kev. From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 7 17:44:33 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:44:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] peel shows Message-ID: <352601.58020.qm@...> If you can 'YouSendIt' - great! It's even more immediate than a torrent! Thanks! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 4:14:49 PM Subject: [peel] peel shows hi everyone, thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? let us know and i'll post some tonight! kev. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 7 17:47:07 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:47:07 -0000 Subject: John Peel's Record Box TV show Message-ID: Hello guys! I read a request for JP's Record Box TV show so I've posted it on 'YouSendIt' for a quick download. Here's the link: Link: http://www.yousendit.com/download/www/V1NEQ1ZoSU81bmpIRGc9PQ Enjoy! Dee Dee From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 7 17:54:35 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:54:35 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 6 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! I quit seeding the 5 of 17 torrent earlier once we got to double figures so those members who have a complete file - please keep seeding! There are still members out there with very slow connections downloading the first of these humongous torrents! This compilation can be found at Mininova. I'm happy to see from IsoHunt that there are still people passing around all the earlier files so well done everybody! Regards, Dee Dee From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 7 17:57:00 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:57:00 -0000 Subject: John Peel's Record Box TV show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Should have also mentioned that the link to JP's Record Box is good for two weeks only. Perhaps someone wants to create a torrent of it when they have it and start U/Ling? Dee Dee From thebarguest@... Wed Nov 7 19:40:08 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:40:08 -0000 Subject: peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kevin. I think yousendit is fine but anything over, say, 100 MB is probably better done via a torrent. Plus torrents are more 'democratic' in the sense that 'outsider' Peel fans can see & download as well ..... Thanks in advance for the shows - excellent ! Benny H --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > hi everyone, > > thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. > > > would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? > > > let us know and i'll post some tonight! > > kev. > From festive50@... Wed Nov 7 20:52:04 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:52:04 -0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: <65790.49968.qm@...> Message-ID: I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted chronologically. These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER CARRUTHERS Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] File naming convention? We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd just like to drop something into the mix that's been on my mind for a while; Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my hard drive, I have things with names like: 1979-12-12a.mp3 BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - Cassette Two Side A.mp3 JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 etc. etc. In order to know what I actually have and don't have, I've started renaming them all in the following format: Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 or for Festive Fifty's: FF03(5-32).mp3 Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such convention for files we share ? The format I'm using is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a minute I'll be adding to the pot, cheers Roger From domesticempire@... Wed Nov 7 21:07:30 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Domestic Empire) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:07:30 +0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: References: <65790.49968.qm@...> Message-ID: Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From rockerq@... Wed Nov 7 21:57:02 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:57:02 EST Subject: [peel] peel shows Message-ID: Don't like leaving my Mac connected to the net for long periods of time since I don't use a firewall at present - so I prefer yousendit! And thanks to all you uploaders! Cheers! Rocker > hi everyone, > > thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. > > would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? > > let us know and i'll post some tonight! > > kev. > From pontypoolie@... Wed Nov 7 23:04:12 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:04:12 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 3 of 6 Message-ID: I've just realised that these files are quieter than most of the other mp3s I listen to. I've got the original wavs and can pass a dvd of them on to someone who might like to boost the quality - I know there are a lot of people who don't like mp3 format. http://download.yousendit.com/38F4BF2962551277 From pontypoolie@... Wed Nov 7 23:13:53 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:13:53 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 2 of 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cheers Gary, i'm very happy to pass them on. .--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Gary" wrote: > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > > > http://download.yousendit.com/BD1CEA4C2F49C5A2 > > > > can anyone explain to me how yousendit's bandwidth limit works? > > currently well over 100% of my monthly limit, but still seems to be > > working ok? > > > > anyway, enjoy it while it lasts as I think the links will run out > > soon. > > > > i had a link to the ftp server a while back but have lost my link > to > > it. if you know what i'm talking about and wouldn't mind inviting > me > > again i'd be very grateful > > > > cheers > > And > > > > I imagine the 100% limit refers to your ability to download without > any waiting limits as oppossed to non-members. I shouldn't think this > will have any effect on your upload capacity as making files > available is how these file storage sites generate their revenue. I > think that's more or less how my rapidshare account works as do most > others. Likewise anything uploaded will probably follow the usual > '...will remain active if downloaded in the last X numbers of days', > where 'x' is usually 30. > > I'm losing track of which Peel files I have but I'm reasonably > certain I don't have these - not as a single compilation at least. > Thank you very much for sharing. It is most appreciated (",). > > Kind regards > gary > http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ > From ken_garner@... Wed Nov 7 23:23:54 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:23:54 -0000 Subject: Cheers Ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks for those kind words Andrew. The guy to credit for the design which you feel makes it "a thing of beauty" is not me, but designer EstuaryEnglish, a Peel listener the publisher told me, and the editor Steve Tribe. My wife said people were going to love seeing the session sheets, scripts, wall charts and stuff, and although I didn't believe her she was right, whereas I just take them for granted because I'm drowning in them here in my office at home and have been since 1992. The session sheet images are scans of my own copies, and hence some of the image visible in some cases is, er, my annotations. The writing on The Beat one on p107 saying "not keyed.. his [bob sargeant's] writing (look for tell tale double quotes") is me, using this one as an example to my keying helpers 15 years ago, as i did for several, to id producers and engineers by their handwriting when their names were left off, a frequent occurrence. The Syd Barret and Bob Marley sheets are in Walters' hand; Dale Griffin's capitals are unmistakeable on Napalm Death and Wedding Present; the "SM? MR tick" on the siouxsie one on the back cover is me. Sadly the romeo era from 88 onwards ended these adventures in graphology, although some handwritten ones came in again at maida vale from 98 onwards. One of the best bits of memorabilia which we strongly considered for the book but didn't quite make the final cut, was my Walters wall chart from 1990 showing the two solid weeks in August when every session was a Fall repeat. The idea was to just show that bit blown up big with a witty caption. In 92 I had borrowed and transcribed all Walters' old wallcharts that were stuffed in a corner of egton 318, before they were junked, from 86 thru to end 91 (nov 87-Feb 88 missing), but only ended up keeping a sample of a dozen or so. The best one all round is the one on p114. Anyone spotted the red herring in there, by the way? Tell you what , I'll post up that fall one as a jpeg as a file in the site's photos section if i can... Louise is not seven feet tall, and knows this picture is funny, taken on some steps in Barcelona old town i think during the show's trip to Sonar June 02. ken I'm rather dizzy with all this file sharing. I very nervously tried and got one to work from yousendit - i liked that, it worked, i even understood what was happening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Dean" wrote: > > book arrived from amazon yesterday and is a thing of beauty. love the > cassette theme running throughout (spent most of peel listening years > hearing the show a day late via a week's worth of C120s, siphoning off the > interesting bits as required, so it strikes a chord). loved the little > glimpses of bbc proforma even. great photos. first chapter still hard to get > through 3 years later. thanks for the mention(s) too, parents were (vaguely) > impressed. > > one question. is louise really 7ft tall like she appears in that one > picture? 8) > > ok, this list can now go back to file swapping on industrial levels. wake me > up when it's over. > > cheers > andy > From thebarguest@... Wed Nov 7 23:43:36 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:43:36 -0000 Subject: Cheers Ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ken. Quite surprised and pleased to see your book on sale in an Asda superstore near Aintree (they do great microwavable curries as well) ! Good luck with sales - I might get a copy for Chrimbo if I'm lucky ..... Some great Peely bands from Scotland - Altered Images, early Simple Minds, Cocteau Twins, Skids ....... better than Franz Ferdinand and Gavril Princip. Cheers, Jocky Little --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > Many thanks for those kind words Andrew. The guy to credit for the > design which you feel makes it "a thing of beauty" is not me, but > designer EstuaryEnglish, a Peel listener the publisher told me, and > the editor Steve Tribe. My wife said people were going to love seeing > the session sheets, scripts, wall charts and stuff, and although I > didn't believe her she was right, whereas I just take them for > granted because I'm drowning in them here in my office at home and > have been since 1992. The session sheet images are scans of my own > copies, and hence some of the image visible in some cases is, er, my > annotations. The writing on The Beat one on p107 saying "not keyed.. > his [bob sargeant's] writing (look for tell tale double quotes") is > me, using this one as an example to my keying helpers 15 years ago, > as i did for several, to id producers and engineers by their > handwriting when their names were left off, a frequent occurrence. > The Syd Barret and Bob Marley sheets are in Walters' hand; Dale > Griffin's capitals are unmistakeable on Napalm Death and Wedding > Present; the "SM? MR tick" on the siouxsie one on the back cover is > me. Sadly the romeo era from 88 onwards ended these adventures in > graphology, although some handwritten ones came in again at maida > vale from 98 onwards. > > > One of the best bits of memorabilia which we strongly considered for > the book but didn't quite make the final cut, was my Walters wall > chart from 1990 showing the two solid weeks in August when every > session was a Fall repeat. The idea was to just show that bit blown > up big with a witty caption. In 92 I had borrowed and transcribed all > Walters' old wallcharts that were stuffed in a corner of egton 318, > before they were junked, from 86 thru to end 91 (nov 87-Feb 88 > missing), but only ended up keeping a sample of a dozen or so. The > best one all round is the one on p114. Anyone spotted the red herring > in there, by the way? Tell you what , I'll post up that fall one as a > jpeg as a file in the site's photos section if i can... > > Louise is not seven feet tall, and knows this picture is funny, taken > on some steps in Barcelona old town i think during the show's trip to > Sonar June 02. > > ken > > I'm rather dizzy with all this file sharing. I very nervously tried > and got one to work from yousendit - i liked that, it worked, i even > understood what was happening! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Dean" wrote: > > > > book arrived from amazon yesterday and is a thing of beauty. love > the > > cassette theme running throughout (spent most of peel listening > years > > hearing the show a day late via a week's worth of C120s, siphoning > off the > > interesting bits as required, so it strikes a chord). loved the > little > > glimpses of bbc proforma even. great photos. first chapter still > hard to get > > through 3 years later. thanks for the mention(s) too, parents were > (vaguely) > > impressed. > > > > one question. is louise really 7ft tall like she appears in that > one > > picture? 8) > > > > ok, this list can now go back to file swapping on industrial > levels. wake me > > up when it's over. > > > > cheers > > andy > > > From roger.carruthers@... Wed Nov 7 22:43:56 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:43:56 +0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Suits me ­ anything that sorts well and has us all singing from the same hymn sheet (though being British, of course, I¹m not sure I care for an international format that arranges dates arse backwards ;-) Cheers Roger On 7/11/07 20:07, "Domestic Empire" wrote: > > > > > Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus > yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. > Should such a thing concern one. > > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) > > Gary Walsh > John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ > John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ > > On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards > wrote: >> > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma >> > >> > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma >> > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted >> > chronologically. >> > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. >> > Phil >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: peel@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of >> ROGER >> > CARRUTHERS >> > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 >> > To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? >> > >> > >> > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd >> > just like to drop something into the mix that's been >> > on my mind for a while; >> > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my >> > hard drive, I have things with names like: >> > 1979-12-12a.mp3 >> > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - >> > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 >> > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 >> > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 >> > etc. etc. >> > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, >> > I've started renaming them all in the following >> > format: >> > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 >> > or for Festive Fifty's: >> > FF03(5-32).mp3 >> > >> > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such >> > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using >> > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open >> > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... >> > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a >> > minute I'll be adding to the pot, >> > cheers >> > Roger >> > >> > >> > >> > From pontypoolie@... Thu Nov 8 00:10:49 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:10:49 -0000 Subject: Cheers Ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: I'll post up that fall one as a > jpeg as a file in the site's photos section if i can... Nice one! That is getting printed and filed in one of those cassettes very shortly. Cheers (again!) Ken. From jimmystep@... Thu Nov 8 01:06:52 2007 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:06:52 -0000 Subject: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The suggested format is really the best way to go as it does avoid the confusion between USA dating conventions and european(including Britain!) and makes for easy file sorting. On the old ftp trading network it was BandName_yyyymmdd_GigLocation; eg Love_19740530_Glasgow or sometimes Love_1974-05-30_Glasgow To reduce the length of the file names, which can be a problem with some operating systems, I'd suggest leaving out the John part and just have it as Peel. Only a suggestion but it saves 4 characters :-) Cheers....Jimmy --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > Suits me ­ anything that sorts well and has us all singing from the same > hymn sheet (though being British, of course, I¹m not sure I care for an > international format that arranges dates arse backwards ;-) > Cheers > Roger > On 7/11/07 20:07, "Domestic Empire" wrote: > > Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus > > yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. > > Should such a thing concern one. From kevin_beech@... Thu Nov 8 05:33:39 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:33:39 -0000 Subject: a little late but a new one Message-ID: hi everyone http://download.yousendit.com/64045CB809DD245A sessions from the russians From robfleay@... Thu Nov 8 10:03:32 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 9:03:32 +0000 Subject: a couple of yousendits Message-ID: <20071108090332.SBGB26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> to join in the fun - I just sent these to someone and figured the links could be of use here too I think these originally came from Martin, but here we have the 4 DubSex peel sessions and the Dumb (post-DubSex) peel session.. http://download.yousendit.com/01CA9EAB44DC2910 http://download.yousendit.com/9E1D2D8D397C2BA4 ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From iangwilson@... Thu Nov 8 11:52:51 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:52:51 +0000 Subject: [peel] Phantom 50 part 3 of 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b3563a0711080252q575bd072l5b3500d6ae86ed22@...> From parkerfranz@... Thu Nov 8 14:36:34 2007 From: parkerfranz@... (parkerfranz) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:36:34 -0000 Subject: http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/DrPhibesandthehouseofwaxequations/ Message-ID: From domesticempire@... Thu Nov 8 15:39:20 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Gary) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:39:20 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 3 of 6 In-Reply-To: <7b3563a0711080252q575bd072l5b3500d6ae86ed22@...> Message-ID: I second that. MP3Gain is one of those indispensable little tools. And Mac users have MacMP3Gain by the way: http://homepage.mac.com/beryrinaldo/AudioTron/MacMP3Gain/ gary torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Wilson" wrote: > > I find MP3Gain useful for equalising levels: > > http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/ > > Ian. > > > On 07/11/2007, And wrote: > > > > I've just realised that these files are quieter than most of the other > > mp3s I listen to. I've got the original wavs and can pass a dvd of > > them on to someone who might like to boost the quality - I know there > > are a lot of people who don't like mp3 format. > > > > http://download.yousendit.com/38F4BF2962551277 > > > > > > > From pontypoolie@... Thu Nov 8 19:55:50 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:55:50 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 3 of 6 In-Reply-To: <7b3563a0711080252q575bd072l5b3500d6ae86ed22@...> Message-ID: Thanks very much Ian! - using it now on part4 Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Wilson" wrote: > > I find MP3Gain useful for equalising levels: > > http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/ > > Ian. > > > On 07/11/2007, And wrote: > > > > I've just realised that these files are quieter than most of the other > > mp3s I listen to. I've got the original wavs and can pass a dvd of > > them on to someone who might like to boost the quality - I know there > > are a lot of people who don't like mp3 format. > > > > http://download.yousendit.com/38F4BF2962551277 > > > > > > > From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 20:52:35 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:52:35 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Which is the best torrent to use? I dabbled with 1 in the past, can#t remember wich. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of thebarguest Sent: 07 November 2007 18:40 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows Hi Kevin. I think yousendit is fine but anything over, say, 100 MB is probably better done via a torrent. Plus torrents are more 'democratic' in the sense that 'outsider' Peel fans can see & download as well ..... Thanks in advance for the shows - excellent ! Benny H --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > hi everyone, > > thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. > > > would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? > > > let us know and i'll post some tonight! > > kev. > From thebarguest@... Thu Nov 8 21:47:51 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:47:51 -0000 Subject: peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You mean up/downloading software or internet torrent sites ? I use BitTornado as the former ; mininova and pirate bay are good sites. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > Which is the best torrent to use? > I dabbled with 1 in the past, can#t remember wich. > Phil > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > thebarguest > Sent: 07 November 2007 18:40 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows > > > Hi Kevin. > I think yousendit is fine but anything over, say, > 100 MB is probably better done via a torrent. Plus torrents are > more 'democratic' in the sense that 'outsider' Peel fans can > see & download as well ..... > Thanks in advance for the shows - excellent ! > > Benny H > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > hi everyone, > > > > thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. > > > > > > would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? > > > > > > let us know and i'll post some tonight! > > > > kev. > > > From pontypoolie@... Thu Nov 8 21:48:05 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:48:05 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 Message-ID: need to have a practice on the mp3gain - doesn't seem to have much effect on this one? http://download.yousendit.com/5993B35E044D8758 From pontypoolie@... Thu Nov 8 22:54:55 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:54:55 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 5 of 6 Message-ID: nearly there http://download.yousendit.com/1EED8C0C7427EC49 From ken_garner@... Thu Nov 8 23:01:54 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:01:54 -0000 Subject: a little late but a new one In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, kevin, I have at least got my head round yousend it and have downloaded that. It's one from a period I was too busy being a student in London going to gigs at places like the Nashville, and the Moonlight in West Hampstead to listen in, so much appreciated. Checking "The Shows" Index in my book though, to help cataloguing listeners, I think the date of that show is actually Thursday 19th July 1979. Why?: first TX of the Russians' first (and only) session, and he trails the next Monday's show as featuring "Tubeway Army and UK Subs" (M 23/7/79), and he also plays Little Feat and talks about Lowell George dying a week or two ago (29/6/79) ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > hi everyone > > http://download.yousendit.com/64045CB809DD245A > > sessions from the russians > From pontypoolie@... Fri Nov 9 00:00:31 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:00:31 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 6 of 6 Message-ID: Last but not least - the top 4 songs http://download.yousendit.com/FA7C464F152D7BB0 From roger.carruthers@... Thu Nov 8 23:45:35 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:45:35 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For finding stuff, see also btjunkie.org. I read somewhere that they score highest in the torrent searching stakes, Cheers Roger On 8/11/07 20:47, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > > > You mean up/downloading software or internet torrent sites ? > I use BitTornado as the former ; mininova and pirate bay are good > sites. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Phil Edwards" > wrote: >> > >> > Which is the best torrent to use? >> > I dabbled with 1 in the past, can#t remember wich. >> > Phil >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: peel@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of >> > thebarguest >> > Sent: 07 November 2007 18:40 >> > To: peel@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows >> > >> > >> > Hi Kevin. >> > I think yousendit is fine but anything over, say, >> > 100 MB is probably better done via a torrent. Plus torrents are >> > more 'democratic' in the sense that 'outsider' Peel fans can >> > see & download as well ..... >> > Thanks in advance for the shows - excellent ! >> > >> > Benny H >> > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , >> "kevin_beech" wrote: >>> > > >>> > > hi everyone, >>> > > >>> > > thanks for the kind words,glad everyone has enjoyed it. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > would the group rather have them by yousend it or torrrent?? >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > let us know and i'll post some tonight! >>> > > >>> > > kev. >>> > > >> > > > > From keith.muir@... Fri Nov 9 00:50:15 2007 From: keith.muir@... (kmuir67) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:50:15 -0000 Subject: Anyone have Pink Industry?? Message-ID: Hi All New to this forum, so apologies if this is a bit obscure. I am keen to find a copy of a track from a Pink Industry session from 1983 ("Taddy Up") which only ever appeared as a Peel session. My very old and very poor quality tape of this was chewed by a cassette player some time ago and my restoration attempts have made the best of a very bad job, but if anyone out there has a decent quality copy I would be very happy to hear from you! I have quite a few obscure session recordings from the early 80s that I'm happy to track down for anyone who's interested, but quality is generally not great. Best, Keith From spiggytopes55@... Fri Nov 9 10:37:39 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:37:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: a little late but a new one Message-ID: <309587.55049.qm@...> Ken, The original R2R tape of this was mine. I will check what I wrote on the tape, but I bow to your better knowledge on this. My excuse for making the mistake was that I was probably too stoned at the time. Happy days (I too used to frequent The Nashville although I spent most of my evenings (from about 76 thru 79) in The Marquee). Incidentally, I recently bought your book, on Kev's recommendation and once I had it, I did say to him that I would use it to try and identify other bits of programmes that we have (and that Kev will no doubt make available in time). Someday we'll all have the same list and the same programmes (probably more than the beeb has). Could I ask a favour, where you have found errors in your detail, that you post up an erratum file? Just a thought. Big thanks to you for the book, same to Kev for making my tapes available, same to others for their contributions. Good stuff. Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 8 November, 2007 10:01:54 PM Subject: [peel] Re: a little late but a new one thanks, kevin, I have at least got my head round yousend it and have downloaded that. It's one from a period I was too busy being a student in London going to gigs at places like the Nashville, and the Moonlight in West Hampstead to listen in, so much appreciated. Checking "The Shows" Index in my book though, to help cataloguing listeners, I think the date of that show is actually Thursday 19th July 1979. Why?: first TX of the Russians' first (and only) session, and he trails the next Monday's show as featuring "Tubeway Army and UK Subs" (M 23/7/79), and he also plays Little Feat and talks about Lowell George dying a week or two ago (29/6/79) ken --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > hi everyone > > http://download. yousendit. com/64045CB809DD 245A > > sessions from the russians > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From roger.carruthers@... Fri Nov 9 10:43:19 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (roger3905) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:43:19 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for for these. Do I take it from your email address that you're from/ living in Pontypool ? I lived in Cwmbran & then Griffithstown for several years until moving a couple of valleys to the West a couple of years ago. If you are in S.Wales, then I take it you're coming to see the Weddoes at The Point on the 25th ...? Got my tickets - see you there ?! cheers Roger From iangwilson@... Fri Nov 9 10:45:17 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:45:17 +0000 Subject: [peel] Anyone have Pink Industry?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b3563a0711090145i422cac6bsb43a9093353492bf@...> From spiggytopes55@... Fri Nov 9 11:32:34 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:32:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: John Peel's Order Of Service Message-ID: <865799.78297.qm@...> All, I attended John's funeral and was one of the many outside on that day. For those that were unable to attend, I've just posted, to the files, a copy of the Order Of Service in a zip file. Hope you like it. Cheers, Julian ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From iangwilson@... Fri Nov 9 12:49:02 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:49:02 +0000 Subject: [peel] Anyone have Pink Industry?? In-Reply-To: <7b3563a0711090145i422cac6bsb43a9093353492bf@...> References: <7b3563a0711090145i422cac6bsb43a9093353492bf@...> Message-ID: <7b3563a0711090349q1cbbbefdr83ec066364c737cd@...> From ken_garner@... Fri Nov 9 13:34:51 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:34:51 -0000 Subject: a little late but a new one In-Reply-To: <309587.55049.qm@...> Message-ID: no need to make an excuse. I have made enough mistakes in my time, and seen thousands more in 'official' BBC data, to see no point in anyone feeling bad about getting a date wrong. I'm pretty sure from the context that that one was 19/7/79. My current plan is to try and collate the errata in the new book together from my own observations and readers/listeners' points over the next 3 / 4 months or so - I expect to get a few in by post after Christmas, as I did all those years ago from IST! - and then, perhaps around the end of January at the earliest (and because it will be a long time I expect before any conceivable 2nd edition involving corrections), to format and layout myself 2/3 pages of these "Corrections & Clarifications" in the same type style/design and page size as the book's back-half design (we teach this stuff on the journalism course here at Caledonian using Quark Xpress, so I should be able to do this), and then post these on this site, so owners of the book can print them off and insert inside the back of their copies, just for the record. if anyone of you have further such points, remember, please in the first instance e-mail me off list, ken kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Julian Porter wrote: > > Ken, > > The original R2R tape of this was mine. I will check what I wrote on the tape, but I bow to your better knowledge on this. My excuse for making the mistake was that I was probably too stoned at the time. Happy days (I too used to frequent The Nashville although I spent most of my evenings (from about 76 thru 79) in The Marquee). > > Incidentally, I recently bought your book, on Kev's recommendation and once I had it, I did say to him that I would use it to try and identify other bits of programmes that we have (and that Kev will no doubt make available in time). Someday we'll all have the same list and the same programmes (probably more than the beeb has). > > Could I ask a favour, where you have found errors in your detail, that you post up an erratum file? Just a thought. > > Big thanks to you for the book, same to Kev for making my tapes available, same to others for their contributions. > > Good stuff. > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, 8 November, 2007 10:01:54 PM > Subject: [peel] Re: a little late but a new one > > thanks, kevin, I have at least got my head round yousend it and have > downloaded that. It's one from a period I was too busy being a > student in London going to gigs at places like the Nashville, and the > Moonlight in West Hampstead to listen in, so much appreciated. > Checking "The Shows" Index in my book though, to help cataloguing > listeners, I think the date of that show is actually Thursday 19th > July 1979. Why?: first TX of the Russians' first (and > only) session, and he trails the next Monday's show as > featuring "Tubeway Army and UK Subs" (M 23/7/79), and he also plays > Little Feat and talks about Lowell George dying a week or two ago > (29/6/79) > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > hi everyone > > > > http://download. yousendit. com/64045CB809DD 245A > > > > sessions from the russians > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > From deedeeramain@... Fri Nov 9 13:40:02 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:40:02 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 7 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello guys! We've now got 7 or 8 complete seeds for torrent 6 of 17 so I'm going to quit my seeding here (uploaded over 8 gigs of data to get 8 seeds for a file less than 4 gb in volume! Where does it all go?!) in order to initiate 7 of 17. We didn't get to double figures for this last torrent so if you were lucky enough to get a complete file - please, please, please keep seeding so others can complete their torrents also! The latest torrent can be found at Mininova! Thanks to all those sharing their sources in the last couple of weeks also! Regards, Dee Dee From spiggytopes55@... Fri Nov 9 13:44:23 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:44:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: a little late but a new one Message-ID: <774146.52690.qm@...> Ken, Excellent, specially as it will look the business. Cheers, Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: ken garner To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 9 November, 2007 12:34:51 PM Subject: [peel] Re: a little late but a new one no need to make an excuse. I have made enough mistakes in my time, and seen thousands more in 'official' BBC data, to see no point in anyone feeling bad about getting a date wrong. I'm pretty sure from the context that that one was 19/7/79. My current plan is to try and collate the errata in the new book together from my own observations and readers/listeners' points over the next 3 / 4 months or so - I expect to get a few in by post after Christmas, as I did all those years ago from IST! - and then, perhaps around the end of January at the earliest (and because it will be a long time I expect before any conceivable 2nd edition involving corrections) , to format and layout myself 2/3 pages of these "Corrections & Clarifications" in the same type style/design and page size as the book's back-half design (we teach this stuff on the journalism course here at Caledonian using Quark Xpress, so I should be able to do this), and then post these on this site, so owners of the book can print them off and insert inside the back of their copies, just for the record. if anyone of you have further such points, remember, please in the first instance e-mail me off list, ken kg --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, Julian Porter wrote: > > Ken, > > The original R2R tape of this was mine. I will check what I wrote on the tape, but I bow to your better knowledge on this. My excuse for making the mistake was that I was probably too stoned at the time. Happy days (I too used to frequent The Nashville although I spent most of my evenings (from about 76 thru 79) in The Marquee). > > Incidentally, I recently bought your book, on Kev's recommendation and once I had it, I did say to him that I would use it to try and identify other bits of programmes that we have (and that Kev will no doubt make available in time). Someday we'll all have the same list and the same programmes (probably more than the beeb has). > > Could I ask a favour, where you have found errors in your detail, that you post up an erratum file? Just a thought. > > Big thanks to you for the book, same to Kev for making my tapes available, same to others for their contributions. > > Good stuff. > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: ken garner > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Thursday, 8 November, 2007 10:01:54 PM > Subject: [peel] Re: a little late but a new one > > thanks, kevin, I have at least got my head round yousend it and have > downloaded that. It's one from a period I was too busy being a > student in London going to gigs at places like the Nashville, and the > Moonlight in West Hampstead to listen in, so much appreciated. > Checking "The Shows" Index in my book though, to help cataloguing > listeners, I think the date of that show is actually Thursday 19th > July 1979. Why?: first TX of the Russians' first (and > only) session, and he trails the next Monday's show as > featuring "Tubeway Army and UK Subs" (M 23/7/79), and he also plays > Little Feat and talks about Lowell George dying a week or two ago > (29/6/79) > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > hi everyone > > > > http://download. yousendit. com/64045CB809DD 245A > > > > sessions from the russians > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it > now. > http://uk.answers. yahoo.com/ > ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From iangwilson@... Fri Nov 9 13:52:00 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:52:00 +0000 Subject: [peel] The Best Of The Best Of The Best In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b3563a0711090451g7626de9fheeae92920948e50a@...> From so_it_goes_2512@... Fri Nov 9 14:43:23 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:43:23 -0000 Subject: The Best Of The Best Of The Best In-Reply-To: <7b3563a0711090451g7626de9fheeae92920948e50a@...> Message-ID: Dear Ian Thank you for your message. Yes, I have had a small response, which is encouraging, considering from experience that most replies to polls of this kind come in at the last minute! It has already been mentioned that whittling down 1400+ tracks to only three is a formidable task, but then JP said as much when he couldn't submit any less than 250 from one year's worth of releases!!! In the end, if you have a list of many that you cannot live without, send me the lot (I'm sticking my neck out here) and I'll tally them anyway. Looking forward to continuing to foster the community spirit...and just remember, all votes are anonymous, so Ken and other luminaries please don't hesitate!!! ;-)) Best wishes, fellow Peelites Steve --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Wilson" wrote: > > Nice idea, and I thought about it.....but I just couldn't narrow down to 3 > choices....and I bet many others have the same problem! > > Have you had much response? > > Ian. > > > On 06/11/2007, Steve wrote: > > > > My name is Steve, and I run a blog called 'Teenage Kicks' exclusively > > devoted to the Festive Fifty. From now until December 10, I am featuring a > > poll modelled on John's chart called '*The Best Of The Best*' in which > > anybody can vote for their three favourite tracks from the charts between > > 1976-2004. Visit here for more > > information, or you can just jump straight in and email me your choices at > > so.it.goes.2512@... I look forward to seeing you there and also to > > receiving your choices! > > > > > > > From grafpoo@... Fri Nov 9 15:31:08 2007 From: grafpoo@... (grafpoo@...) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:31:08 +0000 Subject: peel xmas show Message-ID: <110920071431.6294.47346F2C0001DFC600001896220073544601019F000E9D09@...> haven't listened to this, but from a blog i occasionally visit is something described as "a 2 hour long John Peel Show full of Christmas songs" http://blogaddressnotavailable2.blogspot.com/2007/10/i-try-to-get-to-my-taxi-man-in.html -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Ian Wilson" Subject: Re: [peel] Anyone have Pink Industry?? Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:49:05 +0000 Size: 1328 URL: From ramsay.dj@... Fri Nov 9 19:04:45 2007 From: ramsay.dj@... (Davie Ramsay) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:04:45 +0000 Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 7 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4734A13D.2050807@...> I'll keep all torrents open as long as needed, but I can only seed at max between 12.00 and 08.00. thereafter I am restricted. Cheers Davie From iangwilson@... Fri Nov 9 22:49:15 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 21:49:15 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: The Best Of The Best Of The Best In-Reply-To: References: <7b3563a0711090451g7626de9fheeae92920948e50a@...> Message-ID: <7b3563a0711091349v3cf8460ane3b19d3bba607cf0@...> From deedeeramain@... Fri Nov 9 22:59:48 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:59:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 7 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: <617796.84796.qm@...> Thanks Davie! That's the spirit we encourage! At the moment my 7 of 17 torrent is uploading verrrryyyyy slooooowwwwwlllllyyyy. I was U/L'ing at 70 kbspreviously. Now; despite several reboots and change of ports etc I only have max 20 kbs - I think Virgin cable are playing silly buggers with me. Goddamnit! We pay for our bandwidth why can't the f***ers supply it! What if I was mounting a round the clock security monitoring operation on the Ospreys nesting in the back garden and then Virgin decide they are going to restrict my bandwidth? No more streaming video! Eggnappers shinnying up drainpipes that's what! And what if I was remotely monitoring and administering my dear old Ma's kidney dialysis from another continent and Virgin decided to restrict my banwidth? Super clean blood that the old pipes just can't / won't accept! Exploding pensioners in suburbia! These bastards! I don't understand why if I've paid for something I can only have half of it! Anyway! To try and get things back up to their normal rates; I am going to stop this torrent for the evening and run my eMule program. Tomorrow I'll re-start BitTorrent and see if that's wrong-footed them. (With eMule; if I gave it a rest overnight then often I'd be back to my normal speeds the next day when I re-started my client!). Cheers! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: Davie Ramsay To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 6:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 7 of 17 now seeding! I'll keep all torrents open as long as needed, but I can only seed at max between 12.00 and 08.00. thereafter I am restricted. Cheers Davie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From thebarguest@... Fri Nov 9 23:57:47 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:57:47 -0000 Subject: The Best Of The Best Of The Best In-Reply-To: <7b3563a0711091349v3cf8460ane3b19d3bba607cf0@...> Message-ID: It'll be interesting to see how an all-time FF 2007 differs from the year 2000 model (a la Peel show).Personally, I find it boring to see the usual suspects in the top 5 to 10 all the time esp the Pistols, who sound very dated. Having said that, I still rate "Atmosphere" by Joy Division (but please no "Love will Tear") ! "Shot by Both Sides" by Magazine would be my number one (just because you're paranoid etc etc........). --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Wilson" wrote: > > Steve, one idea which you might consider sometime could be "vote for > your favourite festive 50".....I think there is a great variety of opinion > as to which year gave the best chart - it would be interesting to see how > followers of Peel rate each as an entity in itself. I know I have my > favourite years. > > As for the task of picking 3 tracks...I think I'll abstain on that one if > you don't mind.....too many favourites for too many different reasons. > > Having said that. I'm looking forward to seeing the results.... > > Ian. > > > On 09/11/2007, Steve wrote: > > > > Dear Ian > > > > Thank you for your message. Yes, I have had a small response, which > > is encouraging, considering from experience that most replies to > > polls of this kind come in at the last minute! It has already been > > mentioned that whittling down 1400+ tracks to only three is a > > formidable task, but then JP said as much when he couldn't submit any > > less than 250 from one year's worth of releases!!! In the end, if you > > have a list of many that you cannot live without, send me the lot > > (I'm sticking my neck out here) and I'll tally them anyway. > > > > Looking forward to continuing to foster the community spirit...and > > just remember, all votes are anonymous, so Ken and other luminaries > > please don't hesitate!!! ;-)) > > > > Best wishes, fellow Peelites > > > > Steve > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Ian Wilson" > > wrote: > > > > > > Nice idea, and I thought about it.....but I just couldn't narrow > > down to 3 > > > choices....and I bet many others have the same problem! > > > > > > Have you had much response? > > > > > > Ian. > > > > > > > > > On 06/11/2007, Steve wrote: > > > > > > > > My name is Steve, and I run a blog called 'Teenage Kicks' > > exclusively > > > > devoted to the Festive Fifty. From now until December 10, I am > > featuring a > > > > poll modelled on John's chart called '*The Best Of The Best*' in > > which > > > > anybody can vote for their three favourite tracks from the charts > > between > > > > 1976-2004. Visit here for > > more > > > > information, or you can just jump straight in and email me your > > choices at > > > > so.it.goes.2512@ I look forward to seeing you there and also to > > > > receiving your choices! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Nov 10 08:34:50 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:34:50 -0000 Subject: peel xmas show In-Reply-To: <110920071431.6294.47346F2C0001DFC600001896220073544601019F000E9D09@...> Message-ID: Thanks for putting me on to this: my interest in Christmas songs can be glimpsed here . Anybody else wishing to download this might consider two things: * The files are all rar, which means that you have to download all three to get the programme. * Each download is through goddamned Rapid share, which means that when you have downloaded one, if you are not a member (which they push forcefully while you are waiting for the file to download), you have to wait about 2hours plus until you can get the next. If there is enough interest, I will load it to my Christmas site as an mp3 download, so let me know. If there isn't...I won't bother. However, it's ace, featuring lots of great songs that I have never heard. Worth having. Steve (from Teenage Kicks ) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, grafpoo@... wrote: > > haven't listened to this, but from a blog i occasionally visit is something described as "a 2 hour long John Peel Show full of Christmas songs" > > http://blogaddressnotavailable2.blogspot.com/2007/10/i-try-to-get-to-my-\ taxi-man-in.html > From pontypoolie@... Sat Nov 10 10:12:15 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:12:15 -0000 Subject: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Close Roger, but a different Ponty (as in 'ole ole'! if that makes any sense!) My brotherinlaw is trying to cajole me into going to the Weddoes but dont think I'll manage it unfortunately. The Point is a cracking venue, just wish it were a bit closer. Glad you liked the tapes, plenty more to come Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "roger3905" wrote: > > Thanks for for these. > Do I take it from your email address that you're from/ living in Pontypool ? I lived in > Cwmbran & then Griffithstown for several years until moving a couple of valleys to the West a > couple of years ago. > If you are in S.Wales, then I take it you're coming to see the Weddoes at The Point on the 25th > ...? Got my tickets - see you there ?! > cheers > Roger > From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Nov 10 11:38:35 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve Lodge) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:38:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 Message-ID: <150203.3158.qm@...> Dear And I have to thank you immensely for the Phantom 50 tapes: I can't believe somebody had the patience to put this together over a year's worth of shows!!! That's dedication (and so is this and this, if my few readers are to be believed). Thank you very much once again Steve Steven Lodge Flat 202 Sa Dong 1320-4 Sang Nok Gu Ansan SOUTH KOREA 426170 Tel: +82-31-415-4441 ----- Original Message ---- From: And To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 6:12:15 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 Close Roger, but a different Ponty (as in 'ole ole'! if that makes any sense!) My brotherinlaw is trying to cajole me into going to the Weddoes but dont think I'll manage it unfortunately. The Point is a cracking venue, just wish it were a bit closer. Glad you liked the tapes, plenty more to come Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "roger3905" wrote: > > Thanks for for these. > Do I take it from your email address that you're from/ living in Pontypool ? I lived in > Cwmbran & then Griffithstown for several years until moving a couple of valleys to the West a > couple of years ago. > If you are in S.Wales, then I take it you're coming to see the Weddoes at The Point on the 25th > ...? Got my tickets - see you there ?! > cheers > Roger > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From so_it_goes_2512@... Sat Nov 10 11:43:22 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve Lodge) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:43:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 Message-ID: <227282.20798.qm@...> Dear And 'This' being this and 'this' being this (sorry for forgetting weblinks). Steven Lodge Flat 202 Sa Dong 1320-4 Sang Nok Gu Ansan SOUTH KOREA 426170 Tel: +82-31-415-4441 ----- Original Message ---- From: And To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 6:12:15 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Phantom 50 part 4 of 6 Close Roger, but a different Ponty (as in 'ole ole'! if that makes any sense!) My brotherinlaw is trying to cajole me into going to the Weddoes but dont think I'll manage it unfortunately. The Point is a cracking venue, just wish it were a bit closer. Glad you liked the tapes, plenty more to come Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "roger3905" wrote: > > Thanks for for these. > Do I take it from your email address that you're from/ living in Pontypool ? I lived in > Cwmbran & then Griffithstown for several years until moving a couple of valleys to the West a > couple of years ago. > If you are in S.Wales, then I take it you're coming to see the Weddoes at The Point on the 25th > ...? Got my tickets - see you there ?! > cheers > Roger > ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 13:05:15 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:05:15 -0000 Subject: can't think of a witty subject title!! Message-ID: more 80's shows http://download.yousendit.com/D3886EDD1D7F7008 i hope to get a least 8 up this weekend for thoses wanting torrents you'll have to wait till next week due to the saga of my broadband slowing up. kev.. From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 13:28:07 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:28:07 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? Message-ID: i was flicking through ken's book last night, does anyone remember walters filling in for peel one night ? was the house of love in session? i remember him playing christine by both house of love and sioux and the banshees. does anyone remember the 2 john's hosting a video show in the 80's and can anyone remember peel introducing a welsh band on t.v.(again 1980's)i thought this was on the last tube,but have found the clip on youtube and it wasn't any idea's anyone?? kev..... From rockerq@... Sat Nov 10 13:41:00 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:41:00 EST Subject: [peel] do you remember?? Message-ID: > < > Seem to remember this happening on a couple of occasions when Peelie (or the pig?) was ill or snowbound or something. <> I think one of the episodes of that TV series he did where he travelled around the UK interviewing obscure indie bands was from Wales - was it called something like "John Peel's sounds of the suburbs"? Cheers! Rocker From ken_garner@... Sat Nov 10 14:46:14 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:46:14 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: my shows index in the book does indicate the occasions when Walters stood in on the show - several dates in the early 80s, a few in the late 80s - but I do not have tapes. However, if it were House of Love and Siouxsie and the Banshees side by side on disc or from session repeats, I suspect the shows of 2/5/88 and 23/5/88 are the prime candidates. Anyone got either of those? k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > < > > > Seem to remember this happening on a couple of occasions when Peelie (or the > pig?) was ill or snowbound or something. > > < thought this was on the last tube,but have found the clip on youtube and it > wasn't any idea's anyone??>> > > I think one of the episodes of that TV series he did where he travelled > around the UK interviewing obscure indie bands was from Wales - was it called > something like "John Peel's sounds of the suburbs"? > > Cheers! > > Rocker > From alan@... Sat Nov 10 15:11:23 2007 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:11:23 -0000 Subject: [peel] do you remember?? References: Message-ID: <005601c823a3$9393fd90$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Sounds Of The Suburbs was from 1999. The Welsh bands on the accompanying CD are Reviver Gene, Lucie Chivers, 60ft Dolls. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: rockerq@... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [peel] do you remember?? < Seem to remember this happening on a couple of occasions when Peelie (or the pig?) was ill or snowbound or something. <> I think one of the episodes of that TV series he did where he travelled around the UK interviewing obscure indie bands was from Wales - was it called something like "John Peel's sounds of the suburbs"? Cheers! Rocker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 15:41:56 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:41:56 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: <005601c823a3$9393fd90$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Message-ID: thanks all, ken those's date would make sence i don't think it was sound of the suburbs it was earler than that. i think it was around the early spurge of ankst records and datblygu type bands kev.. hn peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ford" wrote: > > Sounds Of The Suburbs was from 1999. The Welsh bands on the accompanying CD are Reviver Gene, Lucie Chivers, 60ft Dolls. > > Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rockerq@... > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: [peel] do you remember?? > > > > < > > > Seem to remember this happening on a couple of occasions when Peelie (or the pig?) was ill or snowbound or something. > > <> > > I think one of the episodes of that TV series he did where he travelled around the UK interviewing obscure indie bands was from Wales - was it called something like "John Peel's sounds of the suburbs"? > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 > From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 15:43:53 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:43:53 -0000 Subject: 2nd one Message-ID: all singles show from 1981 http://download.yousendit.com/69099D6D13F23F52 kev From rwprov52@... Sat Nov 10 18:01:08 2007 From: rwprov52@... (rwprov52) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:01:08 -0000 Subject: John Peel's Archive Thing 1970 Message-ID: Does anyone out there have a good download copy of the 1970 , now very rare, album Peelie did for BBC records in 1970? - 'John Peel's Archive Things'. It famously featured recordings from the BBC Archives - Welly Boot Dancers, Live Beetle Jew's Harp etc. I have the equally rare 'Top Gear' album - also on BBC Records - but have not digitised it yet. I also have some 'Peels Pleasures' cassettes. This was a holiday show he pre-recorded in the 80's, featuring Ivor Cutler etc, but I haven't Mp3'd that yet either. Perhaps if enough of you are interested, I might get it together! Robert Provan From pbryant98@... Sat Nov 10 18:04:29 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:04:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] John Peel's Archive Thing 1970 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <103952.44979.qm@...> I don't have a download to offer but I do have this album transferred to cd from vinyl. pb --- rwprov52 wrote: > Does anyone out there have a good download copy of > the 1970 , now very > rare, album Peelie did for BBC records in 1970? - > 'John Peel's Archive > Things'. It famously featured recordings from the > BBC Archives - Welly > Boot Dancers, Live Beetle Jew's Harp etc. > I have the equally rare 'Top Gear' album - also on > BBC Records - but > have not digitised it yet. I also have some 'Peels > Pleasures' > cassettes. This was a holiday show he pre-recorded > in the 80's, > featuring Ivor Cutler etc, but I haven't Mp3'd that > yet either. > Perhaps if enough of you are interested, I might get > it together! > > Robert Provan > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From roger.carruthers@... Sat Nov 10 18:05:00 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:05:00 +0000 Subject: [peel] do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/07 12:28, "kevin_beech" wrote: >does anyone remember the 2 john's hosting a video show in the 80's > > Would that be ŒVideo Jukebox¹, by any chance ? I have a couple on VHS ­ one > day I¹ll get round to digitising them and sharing, > cheers > Roger > > From roger.carruthers@... Sat Nov 10 18:36:09 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:36:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] John Peel's Archive Thing 1970 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ...and while we¹re talking pre-recorded holiday shows, does anyone remember/have copies of , a series of shows he did that were all based around a particular band and it¹s various offshoots ? If memory serves correctly, this included Soft Machine, Roxy Music, the Rolling Stones and Cream, which I guess means we¹re talking early 70¹s. I had a couple of them on tape at one time, but unfortunately they were on those nasty (lime green!) Boots C120¹s which deteriorated rapidly to the point of being unusable. I think I may still have the Roxy one, but it sounds awful. Cheers Roger On 10/11/07 17:01, "rwprov52" wrote: > > > > > Does anyone out there have a good download copy of the 1970 , now very > rare, album Peelie did for BBC records in 1970? - 'John Peel's Archive > Things'. It famously featured recordings from the BBC Archives - Welly > Boot Dancers, Live Beetle Jew's Harp etc. > I have the equally rare 'Top Gear' album - also on BBC Records - but > have not digitised it yet. I also have some 'Peels Pleasures' > cassettes. This was a holiday show he pre-recorded in the 80's, > featuring Ivor Cutler etc, but I haven't Mp3'd that yet either. > Perhaps if enough of you are interested, I might get it together! > > Robert Provan > > > From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 20:42:22 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:42:22 -0000 Subject: peel shows Message-ID: another from 1981 http://download.yousendit.com/906209B473E0F6CB kev. From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 20:48:48 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:48:48 -0000 Subject: John Peel's Archive Thing 1970 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: this stuff sounds great i'd love to here them>> kev --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > ...and while we¹re talking pre-recorded holiday shows, does anyone > remember/have copies of , a series of shows he did that were all based > around a particular band and it¹s various offshoots ? If memory serves > correctly, this included Soft Machine, Roxy Music, the Rolling Stones and > Cream, which I guess means we¹re talking early 70¹s. > I had a couple of them on tape at one time, but unfortunately they were on > those nasty (lime green!) Boots C120¹s which deteriorated rapidly to the > point of being unusable. I think I may still have the Roxy one, but it > sounds awful. > Cheers > Roger > > > On 10/11/07 17:01, "rwprov52" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone out there have a good download copy of the 1970 , now very > > rare, album Peelie did for BBC records in 1970? - 'John Peel's Archive > > Things'. It famously featured recordings from the BBC Archives - Welly > > Boot Dancers, Live Beetle Jew's Harp etc. > > I have the equally rare 'Top Gear' album - also on BBC Records - but > > have not digitised it yet. I also have some 'Peels Pleasures' > > cassettes. This was a holiday show he pre-recorded in the 80's, > > featuring Ivor Cutler etc, but I haven't Mp3'd that yet either. > > Perhaps if enough of you are interested, I might get it together! > > > > Robert Provan > > > > > > > From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 20:54:32 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:54:32 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: roger, glad you remember it!(i was begining to think i'd imagened it) kev --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > > > > On 10/11/07 12:28, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > >does anyone remember the 2 john's hosting a video show in the 80's > > > > Would that be ŒVideo Jukebox¹, by any chance ? I have a couple on VHS ­ one > > day I¹ll get round to digitising them and sharing, > > cheers > > Roger > > > > > From spiggytopes55@... Sat Nov 10 21:52:10 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:52:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] John Peel's Archive Thing 1970 Message-ID: <855561.34404.qm@...> Robert, Please, please, please get this together and join in the fun of sharing. Ivor Cutler has always been a favourite of mine. Went to see him at The Queen Elizabeth Hall on the Southbank, around 1985. I thought he was absolutely wonderful, my wife thought otherwise. Ah well!!......... Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: rwprov52 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 5:01:08 PM Subject: [peel] John Peel's Archive Thing 1970 Does anyone out there have a good download copy of the 1970 , now very rare, album Peelie did for BBC records in 1970? - 'John Peel's Archive Things'. It famously featured recordings from the BBC Archives - Welly Boot Dancers, Live Beetle Jew's Harp etc. I have the equally rare 'Top Gear' album - also on BBC Records - but have not digitised it yet. I also have some 'Peels Pleasures' cassettes. This was a holiday show he pre-recorded in the 80's, featuring Ivor Cutler etc, but I haven't Mp3'd that yet either. Perhaps if enough of you are interested, I might get it together! Robert Provan ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From ken_garner@... Sat Nov 10 22:15:24 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:15:24 -0000 Subject: bits and pieces Message-ID: Blimey, I had completely forgotten about peel and walters co-hosting that TV show on pop videos until you mentioned it, but yes, I can see that now in my memory, that's right roger, it was called Video Jukebox. Might it have been one part of a BBC2 Pop Video night or some such? My guess would be sometime between 85-89... ah, here it is, just found it in INfax catalogue: "Broadcast history: 09 May 1986 21:31-04:01 (BBC 1) 09 May 1986 22:31- 05:01 (BBC 1) 11 Jun 1987 22:31-05:01 (BBC 2) Editor: Producer: Notes: FIRST REEL WAS 72 PC ON 1987 REPEAT TX Description: John PEEL & John WALTERS pres prog telling story of pop video, traced through the musicals & promotional shorts of the 30s, the jazz sounds of the 40s, rock 'n' roll films of 50s, pop progs of 60s, 1st videos of 70s & cable channels of 80s ContributorsJohn Peel John Walters Kevin Loader Richard Mcmanan-Smith (Designer) John Archer (Producer)." The Peel radio shows giving the history of a band and its connections Roger recalls can be found in my book's shows index, p216: M 9/8/76 - F 20/8/76, therefore 10 shows, "retrospectives" on The Who, Family, Fairports, Roxy Music, STones, Cream, Soft Machine, Faces, Yardbirds/Zepp, Beatles I had that problem too with downloading the mystery christmas show in "rar", whatever that is. I'd like to get it mp3 someone. Which one is it? I have 98 (new order), 99, and 02, but not 96 (billy bragg) 00, 01, or 03. Or is it conceivably an earlier one? The holy grail here would be a complete tape of the 26/12/70 original show featurng the carols concert, a session oft repeated in fragments (incl on ANita's first carols concert revival of 99), but the show itself???. I loved the 2000 one but for some daft reason did not tape it, though I did tape the "25 years of the Festive 50" spesh a couple of days earlier. It is of course possible that Walters depped unannounced for Peel after spring 98, and I don't know - i could not double check every show in Radio Times / written archives! - but unlikely, it was never marked up on his wall planners, and certainly I do not recall him doing any after the show moved to weekends and became 3 hour shows for his last 9 months in charge, 90-91. Was the House of Love Christine their electric record version, or the acoustic sessions version of 89? ken From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 10 22:58:56 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:58:56 -0000 Subject: bits and pieces In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ken. now i remember they did the last few links in old fashon night dresses the chirstmas show if the same as post on another site is from 1992 (as peel states in show)it just xmas records but very good it is! rar is just a commpression folder like winzip if anyone want me to yousentit i will kev --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > Blimey, I had completely forgotten about peel and walters co- hosting > that TV show on pop videos until you mentioned it, but yes, I can see > that now in my memory, that's right roger, it was called Video > Jukebox. Might it have been one part of a BBC2 Pop Video night or > some such? My guess would be sometime between 85-89... ah, here it > is, just found it in INfax catalogue: > > "Broadcast history: 09 May 1986 21:31-04:01 (BBC 1) 09 May 1986 22:31- > 05:01 (BBC 1) 11 Jun 1987 22:31-05:01 (BBC 2) Editor: Producer: > Notes: FIRST REEL WAS 72 PC ON 1987 REPEAT TX Description: John PEEL > & John WALTERS pres prog telling story of pop video, traced through > the musicals & promotional shorts of the 30s, the jazz sounds of the > 40s, rock 'n' roll films of 50s, pop progs of 60s, 1st videos of 70s > & cable channels of 80s ContributorsJohn Peel John Walters Kevin > Loader Richard Mcmanan-Smith (Designer) John Archer (Producer)." > > The Peel radio shows giving the history of a band and its connections > Roger recalls can be found in my book's shows index, p216: > M 9/8/76 - F 20/8/76, therefore 10 shows, "retrospectives" on The > Who, Family, Fairports, Roxy Music, STones, Cream, Soft Machine, > Faces, Yardbirds/Zepp, Beatles > > I had that problem too with downloading the mystery christmas show > in "rar", whatever that is. I'd like to get it mp3 someone. Which one > is it? I have 98 (new order), 99, and 02, but not 96 (billy bragg) > 00, 01, or 03. Or is it conceivably an earlier one? The holy grail > here would be a complete tape of the 26/12/70 original show featurng > the carols concert, a session oft repeated in fragments (incl on > ANita's first carols concert revival of 99), but the show itself???. > I loved the 2000 one but for some daft reason did not tape it, though > I did tape the "25 years of the Festive 50" spesh a couple of days > earlier. > > It is of course possible that Walters depped unannounced for Peel > after spring 98, and I don't know - i could not double check every > show in Radio Times / written archives! - but unlikely, it was never > marked up on his wall planners, and certainly I do not recall him > doing any after the show moved to weekends and became 3 hour shows > for his last 9 months in charge, 90-91. Was the House of Love > Christine their electric record version, or the acoustic sessions > version of 89? > > ken > From ken_garner@... Sat Nov 10 23:15:34 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:15:34 -0000 Subject: bits and pieces In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, I might like to hear that 92 one, then - because altho' I was listening at the time, I have no memory at all of such a show - hence why there is no note of such a special in the book's shows index (or on jon small's revived peelsessions site either). Is it possible to date the show exactly from any of peel links (eg. "next saturday we have XXXX in session")? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > ken. > > now i remember they did the last few links in old fashon night dresses > > the chirstmas show if the same as post on another site is from 1992 > (as peel states in show)it just xmas records but very good it is! > > rar is just a commpression folder like winzip > > if anyone want me to yousentit i will > > kev > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > > > > > > > Blimey, I had completely forgotten about peel and walters co- > hosting > > that TV show on pop videos until you mentioned it, but yes, I can > see > > that now in my memory, that's right roger, it was called Video > > Jukebox. Might it have been one part of a BBC2 Pop Video night or > > some such? My guess would be sometime between 85-89... ah, here it > > is, just found it in INfax catalogue: > > > > "Broadcast history: 09 May 1986 21:31-04:01 (BBC 1) 09 May 1986 > 22:31- > > 05:01 (BBC 1) 11 Jun 1987 22:31-05:01 (BBC 2) Editor: Producer: > > Notes: FIRST REEL WAS 72 PC ON 1987 REPEAT TX Description: John > PEEL > > & John WALTERS pres prog telling story of pop video, traced through > > the musicals & promotional shorts of the 30s, the jazz sounds of > the > > 40s, rock 'n' roll films of 50s, pop progs of 60s, 1st videos of > 70s > > & cable channels of 80s ContributorsJohn Peel John Walters Kevin > > Loader Richard Mcmanan-Smith (Designer) John Archer (Producer)." > > > > The Peel radio shows giving the history of a band and its > connections > > Roger recalls can be found in my book's shows index, p216: > > M 9/8/76 - F 20/8/76, therefore 10 shows, "retrospectives" on The > > Who, Family, Fairports, Roxy Music, STones, Cream, Soft Machine, > > Faces, Yardbirds/Zepp, Beatles > > > > I had that problem too with downloading the mystery christmas show > > in "rar", whatever that is. I'd like to get it mp3 someone. Which > one > > is it? I have 98 (new order), 99, and 02, but not 96 (billy bragg) > > 00, 01, or 03. Or is it conceivably an earlier one? The holy grail > > here would be a complete tape of the 26/12/70 original show > featurng > > the carols concert, a session oft repeated in fragments (incl on > > ANita's first carols concert revival of 99), but the show > itself???. > > I loved the 2000 one but for some daft reason did not tape it, > though > > I did tape the "25 years of the Festive 50" spesh a couple of days > > earlier. > > > > It is of course possible that Walters depped unannounced for Peel > > after spring 98, and I don't know - i could not double check every > > show in Radio Times / written archives! - but unlikely, it was > never > > marked up on his wall planners, and certainly I do not recall him > > doing any after the show moved to weekends and became 3 hour shows > > for his last 9 months in charge, 90-91. Was the House of Love > > Christine their electric record version, or the acoustic sessions > > version of 89? > > > > ken > > > From ken_garner@... Sat Nov 10 23:53:45 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:53:45 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: re. Peel introducing something on welsh bands on TV? Just found this entry in BBC INfax online* catalogue, I have a hunch this might be it: "SLATE: 23 Apr 1993 22:25-22:55 (BBC 1) Recorded on 1993-04-19 Arts programme presented by Eddie LADD. Items include Welsh rock music, David HURN, Pipes and drums, Blaengarw Arts Centre, Men Dancing. ITEM 01: WELSH ROCK: John PEEL reps re the success of Welsh rock music in Eastern Europe, and why Welsh bands encounter problems in the UK. INTVS: Emyr Glyn WILLIAMS, Matthew GLYN, Rhys MWYN, Ann MATHEWS (Dur 7m45s)" ...that would be Rhys from Anhrefn, Ann from Fflaps, Emyr from Ankst, er, Matthew from, er... ken * here's that link again for new listers: http://catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > thanks all, > > > ken those's date would make sence > > i don't think it was sound of the suburbs it was earler than that. > > i think it was around the early spurge of ankst records and datblygu > type bands > > kev.. > > hn peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ford" wrote: > > > > Sounds Of The Suburbs was from 1999. The Welsh bands on the > accompanying CD are Reviver Gene, Lucie Chivers, 60ft Dolls. > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: rockerq@ > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [peel] do you remember?? > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > Seem to remember this happening on a couple of occasions when > Peelie (or the pig?) was ill or snowbound or something. > > > > < (again1980's)i thought this was on the last tube,but have found the > clip on youtube and it wasn't any idea's anyone??>> > > > > I think one of the episodes of that TV series he did where he > travelled around the UK interviewing obscure indie bands was from > Wales - was it called something like "John Peel's sounds of the > suburbs"? > > > > Cheers! > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ---------- > > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: > 29/09/2007 13:32 > > > From keith.muir@... Sun Nov 11 01:38:38 2007 From: keith.muir@... (Keith Muir) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:38 -0000 Subject: [peel] Anyone have Pink Industry?? References: <7b3563a0711090145i422cac6bsb43a9093353492bf@...> <7b3563a0711090349q1cbbbefdr83ec066364c737cd@...> Message-ID: <001801c823fb$34c3a6a0$0202a8c0@STUDY> Ian, you're a star! Many thanks indeed. Vocals sound a whole load better than on my dreadful (and mangled) old tape. Will buy you a drink some day, if ever the chance comes! Keith From paul@... Sun Nov 11 02:01:30 2007 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:01:30 -0000 Subject: [peel] 2nd one In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <79B97DD07721471B921CFF1916225936@...> Thanks for that. I applied at -5.5% speed change on it .. and it made John sound a bit more mature - and the show became about 1h58m long rather than 1h51m ... so just about right. Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > kevin_beech > Sent: 10 November 2007 14:44 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] 2nd one > > > all singles show from 1981 > > http://download.yousendit.com/69099D6D13F23F52 > > kev > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 11 08:19:01 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:19:01 -0000 Subject: sundays 1st post Message-ID: http://download.yousendit.com/5789BB9A414E8AB2 we try and get another 3 or 4 up today kev.. From pontypoolie@... Sun Nov 11 09:44:41 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:44:41 -0000 Subject: sundays 1st post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks a lot Kevin. Very much appreciated Cheers And --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > http://download.yousendit.com/5789BB9A414E8AB2 > > we try and get another 3 or 4 up today > > kev.. > From peel@yahoogroups.com Sun Nov 11 10:18:15 2007 From: peel@yahoogroups.com (peel@yahoogroups.com) Date: 11 Nov 2007 09:18:15 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to peel Message-ID: <1194772695.103492.38927.w118@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the peel group. File : /mojo peel archive things article.jpg Uploaded by : saipanda Description : Scan of article on Peel Archive Things LP in Dec 07 issue of Mojo magazine You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/files/mojo%20peel%20archive%20things%20article.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, saipanda From saipanda@... Sun Nov 11 10:32:57 2007 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:32:57 -0000 Subject: Archive Things LP article and Christmas 1992 show Message-ID: Just to let everyone know I've uploaded a scan of an article on the Archive Things LP from this month's Mojo magazine to the files section of the Yahoo group site. Hope it's readable for everyone. I've always hoped to hear this, especially after some of the "archive things" aired on Night Ride shows, and would love to get hold of a digital copy if the recently discussed CD can be converted to mp3 and uploaded via yousent it or whatever. On the subject of uploads, many thanks again to everyone for everything that's been shared recently. For Ken, I think the Christmas 1992 show is too big to be uploaded to yousent it in one shot (they have a 100 meg limit per file), so I've uploaded a copy to megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EWC3GQ1I Hope this works OK. Like to add my appreciation to Ken for his brilliant book. From iangwilson@... Sun Nov 11 10:15:14 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:15:14 +0000 Subject: [peel] Anyone have Pink Industry?? In-Reply-To: <001801c823fb$34c3a6a0$0202a8c0@STUDY> References: <7b3563a0711090145i422cac6bsb43a9093353492bf@...> <7b3563a0711090349q1cbbbefdr83ec066364c737cd@...> <001801c823fb$34c3a6a0$0202a8c0@STUDY> Message-ID: <7b3563a0711110115i39e408d6i7c861d49f5cd7e34@...> From thebarguest@... Sun Nov 11 12:46:43 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:43 -0000 Subject: sundays 1st post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I second that emotion ! This flow of classic period, high quality Peel shows is better than any Christmas present I'll EVER get (unless I marry a rich lady). So poignant to hear John play "Shadowplay" in the July 79 show - he then highly recommends the 'new' album, "Unknown Pleasures". Also, he breaks off the show for a newsflash - parliament has voted against the death penalty ! So not all Thatcher's minions were of the "hang 'em, flog 'em" brigade ........ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > Thanks a lot Kevin. Very much appreciated > Cheers > And > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > http://download.yousendit.com/5789BB9A414E8AB2 > > > > we try and get another 3 or 4 up today > > > > kev.. > > > From roger.carruthers@... Sun Nov 11 13:41:57 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:41:57 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth issues Message-ID: I'm getting a pretty feeble download rate on Torrent 1 of 17, despite there being 50 odd peers, and I would dearly like to get this one finished, so I can make some space for the others. I just noticed that the client I'm using, Transmission, has a default upload limit, which can be changed, so I've reset it so that I can share Torrent 2 (which is the one I agreed to keep up) more effectively. I was just wondering therefore, if anyone seeding Torrent 1 might care to do likewise, if their client has such a feature...? If I understand correctly, upping your upload rate should not effect your download rate - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Sadly, a colleague got busted at work not so long ago for file sharing, so I'm now limited to using my home machine for this kind of activity. I am leaving it running more or less night and day, but still looking at ETA's measured in days rather than hours :-( Thanks once again to all of you who are sharing these. I've compiled a couple of audio DVD's out of compilation 2, and when I've finished tweaking them (which may include the somewhat gargantuan task of including cover art for every FF entry!), I'll upload these as disc images to save anyone else of a similarly obsessive bent the trouble. This, incidentally is another good reason for me to get compilation 1 finished, so I can do a 'Complete Festive 50 DVD' series Cheers Roger From deedeeramain@... Sun Nov 11 14:29:39 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:29:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Bandwidth issues Message-ID: <335926.82135.qm@...> Hello Roger! Is your firewall configured to allow an open port for your Torrent program? If it's not open then you will get abysmal rates but it makes a big difference if you are set up right! The process of configuring the ports is known as 'port forwarding'. Forgive me if I'm teaching you to suck eggs! In your Torrent program 'Options', there should be a place where you can enter a port of your choice. There are are a tad more than 65000 ports that your PC can communicate on and the lower range is used by well known programs. To avoid a conflict, we need to choose a port higher up the range (like 52000 for example). You type in 52000 into BitTorrent and hit 'Apply' or 'OK'. Now; you need to exit the program and re-start it for the changes to apply. If your PC is connected to the 'net directly, you should configure your firewall to allow the BitTorrent program to connect to the web and act as server. On my machine, I use the Zone Alarm firewall and Windows firewall is disabled. I simply tick a few boxes and that's my ports forwarded. I also use a router and that has a built in firewall also. I have to access the configuration page of the router using my PC and navigate to the page where I can open ports for programs that need port forwarding (such as games, P2P etc). My router is a Linksys device. I have to type in the port I want to forward (52000 for example) and the IP address of my machine running BitTorrent. (Your IP address is dynamic. It changes if you boot up and connect to the router while there are other machines already using the router to access the web. It's best if you can assign a Static IP to your machine but if not, shut down all computers connected to the router. Now re-boot the router and your machine and connect to the router. In 'Start', hit the 'Run' button. Type 'cmd' in the box and in the next window that pops up, type in 'ipconfig'. Under the 'Ethernet Adapter' line you'll find your IP address. Use this to configure your router. Save all changes and re-boot your router and PC. When you start up your Torrent program, if your ports are configured right then you should see an improvement in D/L U/L rates. (Your program should show somewhere whether your ports are 'open' or you are still 'fire-walled'). To make sure that you stay 'open' in future, you should ensure that you disconnect all the other computers using the router and then reboot the router before connecting your computer and starting your BitTorrent client. This ensures that you are assigned the same IP address that you forwarded your ports for. (Alternately; assign the same port forwarding for consecutive IP addresses so it doesn't matter in which order your computer connects to the router - you'll always find an open port at 52000). Hope this helps! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: Roger Carruthers To: "peel@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:41:57 PM Subject: [peel] Bandwidth issues I'm getting a pretty feeble download rate on Torrent 1 of 17, despite there being 50 odd peers, and I would dearly like to get this one finished, so I can make some space for the others. I just noticed that the client I'm using, Transmission, has a default upload limit, which can be changed, so I've reset it so that I can share Torrent 2 (which is the one I agreed to keep up) more effectively. I was just wondering therefore, if anyone seeding Torrent 1 might care to do likewise, if their client has such a feature...? If I understand correctly, upping your upload rate should not effect your download rate - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Sadly, a colleague got busted at work not so long ago for file sharing, so I'm now limited to using my home machine for this kind of activity. I am leaving it running more or less night and day, but still looking at ETA's measured in days rather than hours :-( Thanks once again to all of you who are sharing these. I've compiled a couple of audio DVD's out of compilation 2, and when I've finished tweaking them (which may include the somewhat gargantuan task of including cover art for every FF entry!), I'll upload these as disc images to save anyone else of a similarly obsessive bent the trouble. This, incidentally is another good reason for me to get compilation 1 finished, so I can do a 'Complete Festive 50 DVD' series Cheers Roger __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From martinw@... Sun Nov 11 14:52:25 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:52:25 +0000 Subject: [peel] Bandwidth issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:41 11/11/2007, you wrote: >I'm getting a pretty feeble download rate on Torrent 1 of 17, despite there >being 50 odd peers, and I would dearly like to get this one finished, so I >can make some space for the others. >I just noticed that the client I'm using, Transmission, has a default >upload limit, which can be changed, so I've reset it so that I can share >Torrent 2 (which is the one I agreed to keep up) more effectively. >I was just wondering therefore, if anyone seeding Torrent 1 might care to >do likewise, if their client has such a feature...? >If I understand correctly, upping your upload rate should not effect your >download rate - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. >Sadly, a colleague got busted at work not so long ago for file sharing, so >I'm now limited to using my home machine for this kind of activity. I am >leaving it running more or less night and day, but still looking at ETA's >measured in days rather than hours :-( You are not alone in this. In these days of Acceptable User Agreements it's ISPs that are biggest restriction on speeds. Either banning P2P downloads completely at certain times or throttling them back very badly. I've been downloading the 1st two torrents with ambitions to go to 17 soon and at the moment it's galloping along at a massive 4.2kb/s. At times its been up to 20 or 30 but that's as high as it's been - it works out at about a week per 4.4G torrent going every night but not during the day except at weekends We just have to be patient and so do the seeds From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 11 15:17:29 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:17:29 -0000 Subject: sunday 2nd post Message-ID: two new ones http://download.yousendit.com/6AF0DD4E2BC2C459 and http://download.yousendit.com/AC2A7D2B798D4B9E forgot to say we only have 14 days grace on all the yousendit files so get 'um while u can kev.. From domesticempire@... Sun Nov 11 15:42:41 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Gary) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:42:41 -0000 Subject: Bandwidth issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I use utorrent and in the last couple of weeks PeerGuardian 2 which is a setup I recommend every PC user look into for speed and lightness of footprint. I have a humble 1MB unlimited bandwidth ADSL connection with Virgin and have yet to experience any noticeable problems at all. Same thing when they were NTL. Certainly no fluctuation. The computer is online and torrenting pretty much 24/7. Though with this said any throttling of bandwidth is going to be subject to region and contention rate I suspect. Perhaps we should have a survey on the networks and various problems, if any, we encounter. Though any fine detail is probably best conducted in less conspicuous surroundings. Can someone with current network experience shed more light on this issue? Gary Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ From rockerq@... Sun Nov 11 16:36:50 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:36:50 EST Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post Message-ID: Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents at present) Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? Cheers! Rocker rockerq@... rocker@... www.myspace.com/rockerdj From deedeeramain@... Sun Nov 11 18:24:07 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:24:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post Message-ID: <773032.34443.qm@...> Hey Rocker! If you're really desperate and nobody wants to help you out - you can buy these DVDs from goonerproductions.co.uk. £40 for 17 DVDs. I had the idea of a face to face file sharing meet. I read about a campus in the States where the kids would get together with their PCs and hard drives and plug in someone elses stuff and suck it off onto their laptop. Perhaps we could instigate like-wise. Meet at a pub in Swansea / Leicester / Dundee / Derry and do a little (careful) exchange over some beers followed by a gig? Just an idea! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: "rockerq@aol.com" To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:36:50 PM Subject: Re: [peel] sunday 2nd post Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents at present) Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? Cheers! Rocker rockerq@aol. com rocker@dandelionrad io.com www.myspace. com/rockerdj __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From roger.carruthers@... Sun Nov 11 18:51:11 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:51:11 +0000 Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rapidshare unfortunately has a file size limit of 100MB, so it would take an awful long time to distribute them this way. However, if/when I¹ve got a bit more to offer (only completed downloading disc 2 so far) I¹d be happy to burn Œem & post Œem to you. I¹ll contact you off list and you can send me an address. How could anyone not want to help a Dandelion DJ ? :-) Cheers Roger On 11/11/07 15:36, "rockerq@..." wrote: > > > > > Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! > > If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be > interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents at > present) > > Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > rockerq@... > rocker@dandelionradio.com > www.myspace.com/rockerdj > > From rockerq@... Sun Nov 11 19:13:08 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:13:08 EST Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post Message-ID: Cheers for info! Will try to order online now! Rocker > <   > If you're really desperate and nobody wants to help you out - you can buy > these DVDs from goonerproductions.If you're really despe>> > From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 11 20:04:04 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:04:04 -0000 Subject: last one today Message-ID: last one today http://download.yousendit.com/995CCFB656059D48 kev From rwprov52@... Sun Nov 11 20:19:57 2007 From: rwprov52@... (rwprov52) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:19:57 -0000 Subject: John's funeral footage Message-ID: Does anyone out there have video footage of the funeral from Sky TV News? I, and a really nice guy I met in the 'queue', were interviewed by the Sky TV News crew. I know it was broadcast, but, since I was several hundred miles from home I did not see it and, although it sounds uncharacteristically egotistical, would like to, as a memento of one of the most important days of my life. From grafpoo@... Mon Nov 12 00:44:23 2007 From: grafpoo@... (grafpoo@...) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:44:23 +0000 Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post Message-ID: <111120072344.25734.473793D7000D5B8900006486220702095301019F000E9D09@...> howsabout megaupload? the maximum for megaupload.com is 500MB per file. so each DVD could fit into 9 uploads. megaupload sucks if you're not a 'premium' member, something like 10 hours between downloads, but a one-month membership is $10, which is probably around 4 pounds UK these days. free members can store up to 50GB, premium up to 250GB. so, conceivably someone could upload the 17 DVDs on megaupload in, what 150 files or so, in two free accounts or one premium. then i pay my 10 bucks and go for it (i am currently a megaupload free user, i'd have to upgrade). the downside for the torrents for me is that they are running quite slow (but i will check the port forwarding thing later). also, i can download from sites like yousendit, rapidshare, and megaupload at work, but they block torrents. so torrent i do at home, where i face the wrath of my ISP (comcast, who have recently made the news here stateside for mucking with torrent traffic). if my usage per month gets too high (i had one very torrenty month where my total was over 250GB, and they gave me a lot of grief). john -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Roger Carruthers > Rapidshare unfortunately has a file size limit of 100MB, so it would take an > awful long time to distribute them this way. > However, if/when I�ve got a bit more to offer (only completed downloading > disc 2 so far) I�d be happy to burn �em & post �em to you. I�ll contact you > off list and you can send me an address. > How could anyone not want to help a Dandelion DJ ? :-) > Cheers > Roger > > > On 11/11/07 15:36, "rockerq@..." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! > > > > If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be > > interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents at > > present) > > > > Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? > > > > Cheers! > > > > Rocker > > > > rockerq@... > > rocker@... > > www.myspace.com/rockerdj > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Roger Carruthers Subject: Re: [peel] sunday 2nd post Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:51:42 +0000 Size: 2141 URL: From deedeeramain@... Mon Nov 12 02:03:12 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:03:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post Message-ID: <483700.20156.qm@...> John - you make a good case for MegaUpload - Are you a stockholder?! ;-) 17 DVDs, 150 files! What a drag man! I import the DVD on my crappy old laptop (USB 1 - have to use a pcmcia card, create a Torrent file (20 mins) and then upload on to Mininova. Then I have to alert Yahoo Peel Group, Last Fm Peel group and a bunch of hotmail addresses to the fact a new torrent is uploading. If we share share share then everyone gets a copy. No problem! I bought the disks. I got the shit already! I'm just trying to help some people out. If you're getting something for free then you got to go with the flow. The problem with ISPs is bullshit! Those guys need to start providing what we pay them for and you need to complain to them. How we gonna start video podcasting if they don't provide the bandwidth we pay for? How many industries do you know can turn around and say that 'yes, you pay for X amount but if you use / take X amount then we're going to tax you? The 'Peel' stuff is questionable because it contains copyrighted material but file sharing isn't illegal. What if I wanted to share my GPS data for a bunch of walks on Madeira or my collected recipes Mediterranean stylee? That's not illegal. Sorry that the files aren't in the format that you prefer but beggars can't be choosers! To buy the files, you can contact 'goonerproductions.co.uk' - £40 for 17 DVDs! Cheers! Dee Dee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From wmouk@... Mon Nov 12 12:32:14 2007 From: wmouk@... (kevin eden) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:32:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: OGWT Message-ID: <897213.11073.qm@...> Hello am new to this grop so excuse if this has been already asked. Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be accessed? many thanks Kevin Eden http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html "dreams that money can buy" --------------------------------- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. From deedeeramain@... Mon Nov 12 13:02:26 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:02:26 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 8 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello chaps! We successfully launched 13 (lucky for some!) copies of '7 of 17' out into the beyond so I've removed my torrent to start seeding the latest instalment. Those lucky 13 - keep seeding please! Share and share alike! As usual, find it at Mininova. Fill yer boots! Riving Ton From roger.carruthers@... Mon Nov 12 13:33:38 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:33:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] OGWT In-Reply-To: <897213.11073.qm@...> Message-ID: <969979.82591.qm@...> Is this irony, or a case of the classic 'JP being mistaken for Bob Harris' again ;-) Welcome anyway - John is surely chuckling wherever he is! cheers Roger --- kevin eden wrote: > Hello > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been > already asked. > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be > accessed? > > many thanks > > > Kevin Eden > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > "dreams that money can buy" > > --------------------------------- > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit > Yahoo! For Good this month. From wmouk@... Mon Nov 12 14:36:14 2007 From: wmouk@... (kevin eden) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:36:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] OGWT In-Reply-To: <969979.82591.qm@...> Message-ID: <796338.60283.qm@...> Hi Roger neither. I know who both are and waht they did. It was a genuine question. ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote: Is this irony, or a case of the classic 'JP being mistaken for Bob Harris' again ;-) Welcome anyway - John is surely chuckling wherever he is! cheers Roger --- kevin eden wrote: > Hello > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been > already asked. > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be > accessed? > > many thanks > > > Kevin Eden > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > "dreams that money can buy" > > --------------------------------- > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit > Yahoo! For Good this month. Kevin Eden http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html "dreams that money can buy" --------------------------------- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. From robfleay@... Mon Nov 12 16:40:46 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:40:46 +0000 Subject: [peel] OGWT Message-ID: <20071112154047.OOEP29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> On the subject of OGWT - I notice that there is a new music channel on sky called (I think) "Main Street" that is showing lots of old gigs from the 70's OGWT as hour long specials. I'm not sure if these were broadcast in their entirety at the time, or if these are unexpurgated reels from the vaults? > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be > > accessed? > > > > many thanks > > > > > > Kevin Eden ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From pontypoolie@... Mon Nov 12 17:47:16 2007 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:47:16 -0000 Subject: OGWT In-Reply-To: <897213.11073.qm@...> Message-ID: I don't know of anywhere on-line, but a few years back Record Collector had a couple of issues featuring the list of bands per show. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, kevin eden wrote: > > Hello > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been already asked. > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be accessed? > > many thanks > > > Kevin Eden > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > "dreams that money can buy" > > --------------------------------- > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. > From robfleay@... Mon Nov 12 17:57:53 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:57:53 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT Message-ID: <20071112165753.YIOK219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Here's the website of the Sky Channel I mentioned.. http://www.performance-channel.com/mainstreet/tv.html This month they seem to be showing live sets on repeat from Blondie, Hall & Oates, Ry Cooder, Neil Loughgran (presumably Nils Lofgren!?), Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Tom Petty & Manhattan Transfer > > From: "And" > Date: 2007/11/12 Mon PM 04:47:16 GMT > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT > > I don't know of anywhere on-line, but a few years back Record > Collector had a couple of issues featuring the list of bands per > show. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, kevin eden wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been already asked. > > > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be accessed? > > > > many thanks > > > > > > Kevin Eden > > > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > > > "dreams that money can buy" > > > > --------------------------------- > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good > this month. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From spiggytopes55@... Mon Nov 12 18:24:17 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:24:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT Message-ID: <617324.4256.qm@...> Rob, Ah! Nostalgia. That home page reminds me of the days when you didn't have a remote control and the wallpaper was more adventurous than the videos they showed behind some of the album tracks they played on the OGWT. Excellent. Shame I haven't got Sky and therefore will miss these. Funny how the Beeb are willing to allow others to show these but will not show them themselves. If anyone would like to do a couple of DVD's for me, I'd love Ry Cooder and The Ozark Mountain Daredevils. There's a pint or three in it for you. Cheers, Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: RobF To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 12 November, 2007 4:57:53 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Re: OGWT Here's the website of the Sky Channel I mentioned.. http://www.performa nce-channel. com/mainstreet/ tv.html This month they seem to be showing live sets on repeat from Blondie, Hall & Oates, Ry Cooder, Neil Loughgran (presumably Nils Lofgren!?), Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Tom Petty & Manhattan Transfer > > From: "And" > Date: 2007/11/12 Mon PM 04:47:16 GMT > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT > > I don't know of anywhere on-line, but a few years back Record > Collector had a couple of issues featuring the list of bands per > show. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, kevin eden wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been already asked. > > > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be accessed? > > > > many thanks > > > > > > Kevin Eden > > > > http://www.wireview s.com/wmo/ index.html > > > > "dreams that money can buy" > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good > this month. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -- Email sent from www.virginmedia. com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From wewalkforonereason@... Mon Nov 12 18:26:19 2007 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:26:19 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT In-Reply-To: <20071112165753.YIOK219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> References: <20071112165753.YIOK219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: That's all they *ever* seem to show (at least since about a month ago). And yes, it is Nils Lofgren. Alasdair On 12/11/2007, RobF wrote: > Here's the website of the Sky Channel I mentioned.. > http://www.performance-channel.com/mainstreet/tv.html > > This month they seem to be showing live sets on repeat from Blondie, Hall & Oates, Ry Cooder, Neil Loughgran (presumably Nils Lofgren!?), Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Tom Petty & Manhattan Transfer > > > > > From: "And" > > Date: 2007/11/12 Mon PM 04:47:16 GMT > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT > > > > I don't know of anywhere on-line, but a few years back Record > > Collector had a couple of issues featuring the list of bands per > > show. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, kevin eden wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been already asked. > > > > > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be accessed? From wewalkforonereason@... Mon Nov 12 18:28:03 2007 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:28:03 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT In-Reply-To: <617324.4256.qm@...> References: <617324.4256.qm@...> Message-ID: I have DVB-S captures of all the ones they've been (endlessly) repeating. I certainly intend to make a DVD or two (very small filesizes, so I think we will get 6 per DVD). Alasdair On 12/11/2007, Julian Porter wrote: > > > > Rob, > > Ah! Nostalgia. That home page reminds me of the days when you didn't have a remote control and the wallpaper was more adventurous than the videos they showed behind some of the album tracks they played on the OGWT. Excellent. > > Shame I haven't got Sky and therefore will miss these. Funny how the Beeb are willing to allow others to show these but will not show them themselves. > > If anyone would like to do a couple of DVD's for me, I'd love Ry Cooder and The Ozark Mountain Daredevils. There's a pint or three in it for you. > > Cheers, > > Julian > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RobF > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, 12 November, 2007 4:57:53 PM > Subject: Re: [peel] Re: OGWT > > > > > Here's the website of the Sky Channel I mentioned.. > http://www.performa nce-channel. com/mainstreet/ tv.html > > This month they seem to be showing live sets on repeat from Blondie, Hall & Oates, Ry Cooder, Neil Loughgran (presumably Nils Lofgren!?), Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Tom Petty & Manhattan Transfer > > > > > From: "And" > > Date: 2007/11/12 Mon PM 04:47:16 GMT > > To: peel@yahoogroups. com > > Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT > > > > I don't know of anywhere on-line, but a few years back Record > > Collector had a couple of issues featuring the list of bands per > > show. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, kevin eden wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > am new to this grop so excuse if this has been already asked. > > > > > > Is there a list of all OGWT shows that can be accessed? > > > > > > many thanks From rockerq@... Mon Nov 12 18:36:46 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:36:46 EST Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT Message-ID: > < Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Tom Petty & Manhattan Transfer>> > Did we fight the punk wars in vain? Rocker From ken_garner@... Mon Nov 12 18:45:00 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: OGWT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Once again, the bbc online catalogue (see below) of OGWT peformances and editions seems pretty comprehensive to me (just type in OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST), so you can know at least know which shows you are looking for and what survives officially - though of course, this is only an online card index file, you cannot see or request any of it: yet! k http://catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/ From tonydonaghey@... Mon Nov 12 19:17:22 2007 From: tonydonaghey@... (tony donaghey) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Re: OGWT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <806212.55457.qm@...> Hi Ken Not being ofay with the workings of the publishing industry but we just got a mailshot from a book club with your book listed at �4.99 Tony ken garner wrote: Once again, the bbc online catalogue (see below) of OGWT peformances and editions seems pretty comprehensive to me (just type in OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST), so you can know at least know which shows you are looking for and what survives officially - though of course, this is only an online card index file, you cannot see or request any of it: yet! k http://catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/ From thebarguest@... Mon Nov 12 19:35:43 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:35:43 -0000 Subject: OGWT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No, but others fought the Iraq war in vain .......... How topical ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@... wrote: > > > < > Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Tom Petty & Manhattan Transfer>> > > > Did we fight the punk wars in vain? > > Rocker > From festive50@... Mon Nov 12 20:44:50 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:44:50 -0000 Subject: [peel] sunday 2nd post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here are the details of my s e r v e r. F T P Address:- The following Octet - 82 44 181 124 User Name:- PeelList Password:- qP3VAEhA Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no avail) All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the s e r v e r for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention f t p s e r v e r there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Roger Carruthers Sent: 11 November 2007 17:51 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] sunday 2nd post Rapidshare unfortunately has a file size limit of 100MB, so it would take an awful long time to distribute them this way. However, if/when I�ve got a bit more to offer (only completed downloading disc 2 so far) I�d be happy to burn �em & post �em to you. I�ll contact you off list and you can send me an address. How could anyone not want to help a Dandelion DJ ? :-) Cheers Roger On 11/11/07 15:36, "rockerq@..." wrote: Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents at present) Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? Cheers! Rocker rockerq@... rocker@... www.myspace.com/rockerdj From ken_garner@... Tue Nov 13 01:20:36 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:20:36 -0000 Subject: PEEL SESSIONS going cheap! In-Reply-To: <806212.55457.qm@...> Message-ID: that's right, tony: thebookpeople have apparently bought a truck load of copies of the book from the publishers and are flogging it in their November catalogue & online - I even made the front page! - for the ridiculous price of £4.99, for which kind of book club sales my royalties my contract tells me will be pro rata, which at 5% means I trouser a whopping 25p per sale. I don't care. This company only stock and sell books they think they can shift tons of, and hence get a huge trade discount on the price from the publishers. So if it means more people who might like it get to know it exists, or their loved ones get it for them for Christmas, I'm happy. My sister got a copy in Hampshire, as did my Dad, and now you, so that's a good sign. I reckon the way the direct mail industry works that catalogue must have gone into more than half a million homes, so if just 3% of households say their cat prefers it to shredded wheat, we'll sell out. Mind you, they've already dropped it from their latest Christmas special edition catalogue, which fell out of the Guardian on Saturday ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, tony donaghey wrote: > > Hi Ken > Not being ofay with the workings of the publishing industry but we just got a mailshot from a book club with your book listed at £4.99 > Tony > From so_it_goes_2512@... Tue Nov 13 03:54:04 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:54:04 -0000 Subject: and even more from Hannah at R1... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you so much for this information, and sorry it took me so long to get round to doing so!! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > To reduce speed in Audacity : > > 1 import file via 'file'>'open' > 2 'edit'>'select'>'all' > 3 'effect'>'change speed' - enter -6, -7 or -8(according to taste) > 4 'edit'>'preferences'>'file formats'>'bit rate'=320 > 4 'file'>'export selection as mp3' > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > > Thanks for these: anyone care to tell me how to use Audacity for > > this? I have the programme, but am still a novice at it! > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "And" wrote: > > > > > > ok, here's part 2 > > > http://download.yousendit.com/98F6CFB90FC01BB9 > > > > > > like i said, if i'm causing any bother posting these here, let me > > know > > > and i'll post them elsewhere > > > > > > Cheers > > > And > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > > > > > > > No frowning from this puppy! > > > > > > > > More conversions and links to Peel downloads please! > > > > > > > > Dee Dee > > > > > > > > > > From kevin_beech@... Tue Nov 13 08:03:16 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:03:16 -0000 Subject: never played morrissey session Message-ID: ken. did you ever come across the never broadcast morrissey session from 1988? morrissey was never happy with it and asked peel not to play it. peel stated "it sounded a bit tence" his first single was released feb 88 and the album around may (i think) i think in was going to go out in jan 1988 kev... From ken_garner@... Tue Nov 13 08:41:55 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:41:55 -0000 Subject: never played morrissey session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can't recall coming across it or any paperwork. Of course morrissey's relationship with the Peel Sessions was never a happy one: he didn't like doing them when in The SMiths (he only came in for an hour or two to do his vocals, producer John Porter and the band did everything else) there was that 88 incident, and then the mix up years later over the joint one for Peel and Zane Lowe did not go well. I think if I had found a session sheet incomplete for the 88 one I might have put it in this time around. There is, for instance, a blank session sheet for The Clash's abandoned one, with everything filled in at the top but then blank where the tracks should be. I'll ask Hannah at R1 to check the archive index & Romeo computer (the full index of BBC INfax has musical items by artists, which do not appear on the online version we can all browse) for Morrissey entries, next time I'm on, maybe... ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > ken. > > did you ever come across the never broadcast morrissey session from > 1988? > morrissey was never happy with it and asked peel not to play it. > peel stated "it sounded a bit tence" his first single was released feb > 88 and the album around may (i think) > > i think in was going to go out in jan 1988 > > kev... > From tonydonaghey@... Tue Nov 13 09:14:14 2007 From: tonydonaghey@... (tony donaghey) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:14:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] PEEL SESSIONS going cheap! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <755900.61921.qm@...> Although its not the place to admit it but as I only have a passing interest in the sessions I'm tempted by the cheap price. I lurk here for the info on new music but also for snippets that might be gleaned for my obsessive interest in Kevin Coyne. In relation to him - I believe he must be one of the first artists to release some of his BBC sessions on album with tracks appearing on his 1977 release Beautiful Extremes. Thru this group I was able to find a Nightingales session in which they covered Kevin's Good Boy - does the book list composer credits? I'd love to know if anyone else covered a Coyne song cheers Tony ken garner wrote: that's right, tony: thebookpeople have apparently bought a truck load of copies of the book from the publishers and are flogging it in their November catalogue & online - I even made the front page! - for the ridiculous price of �4.99, for which kind of book club sales my royalties my contract tells me will be pro rata, which at 5% means I trouser a whopping 25p per sale. I don't care. This company only stock and sell books they think they can shift tons of, and hence get a huge trade discount on the price from the publishers. So if it means more people who might like it get to know it exists, or their loved ones get it for them for Christmas, I'm happy. My sister got a copy in Hampshire, as did my Dad, and now you, so that's a good sign. I reckon the way the direct mail industry works that catalogue must have gone into more than half a million homes, so if just 3% of households say their cat prefers it to shredded wheat, we'll sell out. Mind you, they've already dropped it from their latest Christmas special edition catalogue, which fell out of the Guardian on Saturday ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, tony donaghey wrote: > > Hi Ken > Not being ofay with the workings of the publishing industry but we just got a mailshot from a book club with your book listed at �4.99 > Tony > From ken_garner@... Tue Nov 13 09:32:57 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:32:57 -0000 Subject: Does the book list composer credits? In-Reply-To: <755900.61921.qm@...> Message-ID: oh no, the mere idea of trying to do that! Sorry, No, it doesn't. You'll just have to read every session enrty looking for Kevin Coyne titles, outside of sessions by him, Siren, Coyne Clague, etc k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, tony donaghey wrote: > > Although its not the place to admit it but as I only have a passing interest in the sessions I'm tempted by the cheap price. > I lurk here for the info on new music but also for snippets that might be gleaned for my obsessive interest in Kevin Coyne. In relation to him - I believe he must be one of the first artists to release some of his BBC sessions on album with tracks appearing on his 1977 release Beautiful Extremes. > Thru this group I was able to find a Nightingales session in which they covered Kevin's Good Boy - does the book list composer credits? I'd love to know if anyone else covered a Coyne song > cheers > Tony > > ken garner wrote: > that's right, tony: thebookpeople have apparently bought a truck load > of copies of the book from the publishers and are flogging it in > their November catalogue & online - I even made the front page! - for > the ridiculous price of £4.99, for which kind of book club sales my > royalties my contract tells me will be pro rata, which at 5% means I > trouser a whopping 25p per sale. I don't care. This company only > stock and sell books they think they can shift tons of, and hence get > a huge trade discount on the price from the publishers. So if it > means more people who might like it get to know it exists, or their > loved ones get it for them for Christmas, I'm happy. My sister got a > copy in Hampshire, as did my Dad, and now you, so that's a good sign. > I reckon the way the direct mail industry works that catalogue must > have gone into more than half a million homes, so if just 3% of > households say their cat prefers it to shredded wheat, we'll sell > out. Mind you, they've already dropped it from their latest Christmas > special edition catalogue, which fell out of the Guardian on Saturday > > ken > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, tony donaghey wrote: > > > > Hi Ken > > Not being ofay with the workings of the publishing industry but > we just got a mailshot from a book club with your book listed at £4.99 > > Tony > > > From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 13 12:26:35 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:26:35 -0000 Subject: Ken's 'Peel Sessions' Book Message-ID: I stumped up for this book at the BBC online shop. I don't know if it'll help but I'd like to give the impression to the BBC that there is still an interest in Peel and his legacy! Dee Dee From domesticempire@... Tue Nov 13 15:56:54 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Domestic Empire) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:56:54 +0000 Subject: [peel] Ken's 'Peel Sessions' Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: RE. Dee Dee: "I'd like to give the impression to the BBC that there is still an interest in Peel and his legacy!" I quite agree. This is why I chose the BBC Shop when adding a link button to my site. 25p hardly seems fair either! Gary http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 13/11/2007, deedeeramain wrote: > I stumped up for this book at the BBC online shop. I don't know if > it'll help but I'd like to give the impression to the BBC that there > is still an interest in Peel and his legacy! > > Dee Dee > > From r.fewster@... Tue Nov 13 16:20:08 2007 From: r.fewster@... (Richard Fewster) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:20:08 +0000 Subject: [peel] a request In-Reply-To: <546392.77565.qm@...> References: <546392.77565.qm@...> Message-ID: <6974965b0711130720m229af6e8n197a51a9e3fb312a@...> Hi Ken, Finally got round to reviewing your exsential book on Amazon. Once again, take a huge bow! Cheers, Richard F On Oct 8, 2007 9:55 PM, Paul Bryant wrote: > > > > > > > By the way, a couple of songs are misnamed in the > Incredible String Band setlists - do you want to know > about this kind of thing? > > > --- ken garner wrote: > > > > > notwithstanding the ongoing refinement of the > > "Longest Gaps" roll of > > honour, the publisher has asked me to encourage any > > of you who would > > wish to, to contribute a reader review to Amazon, > > that is, er, assuming > > your judgement is broadly favorable, of course! Or > > if you fear a > > conflict of interest, encourage someone you know who > > might have a > > useful view... > > > > k > > > > ps. Sue Armstrong at Universal tells me the 3 CD T > > Rex / Tyrannosaurus > > Rex at the BBC set, including all Peel Sessions, is > > out on 15 October, > > complete with sleevenotes from Bolan biograqher Mark > > Paytress. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > From ken_garner@... Tue Nov 13 17:42:16 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:42:16 -0000 Subject: a request In-Reply-To: <6974965b0711130720m229af6e8n197a51a9e3fb312a@...> Message-ID: many thanks, Richard, you are too kind. Unlike the 4th review that's just gone up! It's by someone called J Atkins (are you out there?). I shouldn't quibble about a review that gives me 4 stars, but I cannot help feeling his complaints - which fill his text - about me "hardly, if at all" mentioning reggae in the late 70s era are not quite accurate or fair in the context of 37 years to cover in 50000 words only. I would love to have written more about the reggae sessions, but simply ran out of time to track down more musicians. One thing I was determined to do in the book was give a full hearing in the back reference half and latter main chapters to the DJ and electronic sessions which are largely absent from all other books on Peel and the official tribute website, for the simple (not conspiratorial, not racist, not judgemental, in other words) reason that because they were all either live or done in DJ's or acts' own studios, there were no session sheets, so no romeo computer entry, so no ready-made data to copy over into that site! k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Fewster" wrote: > > Hi Ken, > > Finally got round to reviewing your exsential book on Amazon. Once > again, take a huge bow! > > Cheers, > > Richard F > > On Oct 8, 2007 9:55 PM, Paul Bryant wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, a couple of songs are misnamed in the > > Incredible String Band setlists - do you want to know > > about this kind of thing? > > > > > > --- ken garner wrote: > > > > > > > > notwithstanding the ongoing refinement of the > > > "Longest Gaps" roll of > > > honour, the publisher has asked me to encourage any > > > of you who would > > > wish to, to contribute a reader review to Amazon, > > > that is, er, assuming > > > your judgement is broadly favorable, of course! Or > > > if you fear a > > > conflict of interest, encourage someone you know who > > > might have a > > > useful view... > > > > > > k > > > > > > ps. Sue Armstrong at Universal tells me the 3 CD T > > > Rex / Tyrannosaurus > > > Rex at the BBC set, including all Peel Sessions, is > > > out on 15 October, > > > complete with sleevenotes from Bolan biograqher Mark > > > Paytress. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated > > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > > > From jt.gray@... Tue Nov 13 18:20:41 2007 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:20:41 +0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 8 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: <0B04BEC3-83D7-4731-B797-554E64DBAE99@...> I am still seeding 1-5 plus 17, and there seem to be some decent upload rates. 6 (currently with 4 seeds) and 7 (3) are realllllyyy dragging! 6 indicating ' 12 days remaining'! I was also downloading the 69+70 Top Gear torrent, but this has stopped at about 600 MiB with no seeds and no peers. Can anyone help? John Gray From rockerq@... Tue Nov 13 23:08:01 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:08:01 EST Subject: [peel] PEEL SESSIONS going cheap! Message-ID: > < Good Boy>> > Saw them earlier this year - it's still in their set! Gigging soon! for more info: www.myspace.com/nightingalesmusic Cheers! Rocker From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 14 01:28:52 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:28:52 -0000 Subject: Respect! Message-ID: I'd like to give a hearty thank you to Saipanda and Kevin (Beech) for their recent contributions! If any body else out there has Peel recordings sitting on trusty C30 C60 C90 (Go!) - now's the time to be thinking about encoding them to mp3! The Peel group might even do it for you! - let us know what you got! Hello to everyone in the Peel group! Dee Dee From festive50@... Wed Nov 14 02:59:34 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:59:34 -0000 Subject: [peel] Another request In-Reply-To: <6974965b0711130720m229af6e8n197a51a9e3fb312a@...> Message-ID: Following on from all of this frantic activity on this group due mainly to : - 1.. Kens magnificent tome. 2.. The sharing of these wonderful past Peel shows from these 17 DVDs. Both of these have 3 things in common : - 1.. The irreplaceable John Peel 2.. The past 3.. Wonderful and exciting music However, the overwhelming subject of these discussions was the music/bands/sessions. The Peel comments were a bonus. I don't have a problem with that (as after all, I do run a John Peel music server). At the same time, I still look forward to finding new "Wonderful and exciting music" and that's why I was in at the beginning of Dandelion Radio. We're not John Peel and never will be, but we do try to keep the the Peel legacy alive and try to find the new and unsigned stuff and move forward. Another of the Peel Legacy's we are hoping to keep alive, is the famed Festive 50. I know Peel himself had got disillusioned with some of his past Festive 50s (me too). However Dandelion Radio took up the baton in 2006 (at the request of some of John's colleagues) and produced (IMHO), a fairly respectable Festive 50. We are running it again this year. So why not mosey on down to www.dandelionradio.com and place your votes for your 3 fave tracks of the year. We're running it on the same lines as all previous polls. The only difference, is that we don't have John scratching the entries into his large ledger in the style of a Dickensian clerk. So please vote and help keep the Peel Legacy Alive. You may not have given Dandelion a listen, you should at least try us out, as we now have 10 DJs (with a new DJ starting next month, who I'm really looking forward to hearing). So. Vote, Vote Vote. Phil From so_it_goes_2512@... Wed Nov 14 06:44:44 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:44:44 -0000 Subject: sunday 2nd post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm a dunce. What is a server? and how do I access this from my web browser? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > > > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) > > Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come > clean. > Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked > people to e-mail me for login details. > Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose > logged in) > However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing > about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. > > > Here are the details of my s e r v e r. > > F T P Address:- The following Octet - 82 44 181 124 > > User Name:- PeelList > > Password:- qP3VAEhA > > > > > Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no > avail) > > > > All I ask is:- > > Don't be too greedy. > > I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the s e r > v e r for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". > > Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle > related stuff. > > Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being > (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion > Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing > the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. > > A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and > his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion > Radio are doing. > > So give us a listen. > > Regards > > Phil > > P.S. > > I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing > sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. > > I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our > Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > Domestic Empire > Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? > > > Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus > yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. > Should such a thing concern one. > > Cough, did I notice you mention f t p s e r v e r there > at all? (",) > > Gary Walsh > John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ > John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ > > On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - > bitrate.wma > > > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - > 128K.wma > > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > > chronologically. > > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP > server. > > Phil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > ROGER > > CARRUTHERS > > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > > on my mind for a while; > > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > > hard drive, I have things with names like: > > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > > etc. etc. > > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > > I've started renaming them all in the following > > format: > > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > > or for Festive Fifty's: > > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > > cheers > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > -- > Gary Walsh > johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com > > > > > > > Recent Activity > a.. 2New Members > b.. 2New Photos > c.. 5New Links > Visit Your Group > Y! Messenger > Files to share? > > Send up to 1GB of > > files in an IM. > > Cat Fanatics > on Yahoo! Groups > > Find people who are > > crazy about cats. > > Yahoo! Groups > Moderator Central > > An online resource > > for moderators. > . > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Roger > Carruthers > Sent: 11 November 2007 17:51 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] sunday 2nd post > > > Rapidshare unfortunately has a file size limit of 100MB, so it would take > an awful long time to distribute them this way. > However, if/when I've got a bit more to offer (only completed downloading > disc 2 so far) I'd be happy to burn `em & post `em to you. I'll contact you > off list and you can send me an address. > How could anyone not want to help a Dandelion DJ ? :-) > Cheers > Roger > > > On 11/11/07 15:36, "rockerq@..." wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! > > If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be > interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents > at present) > > Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > rockerq@... > rocker@... > www.myspace.com/rockerdj > From stuart@... Wed Nov 14 11:00:38 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:00:38 +0000 Subject: a request In-Reply-To: <1195029342.468.77396.m46@yahoogroups.com> References: <1195029342.468.77396.m46@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: > many thanks, Richard, you are too kind. Unlike the 4th review that's > just gone up! It's by someone called J Atkins (are you out there?). I > shouldn't quibble about a review that gives me 4 stars, but I cannot > help feeling his complaints - which fill his text - about me "hardly, > if at all" mentioning reggae in the late 70s era are not quite > accurate or fair in the context of 37 years to cover in 50000 words > only. I would love to have written more about the reggae sessions, > but simply ran out of time to track down more musicians. John himself was always complaining about the way the festive 50s always ended up with no reggae in them and it sounds like the reviewer is trying to reflect that age-old view. But I can imagine that getting to chat with the reggae acts who did sessions - there weren't that many - would be nigh on impossible. In fact, John himself said when asked for his favourite session: "Perhaps Culture - I wish they'd done more. Reggae acts are amazingly unreliable - in fact Culture were the most recent not to turn up. You try to explain to them that they'll be playing to 1/2 million people, but that doesn't seem to be important to them." Stuart editor@... From roger.carruthers@... Wed Nov 14 13:35:07 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Respect! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <907773.21349.qm@...> Amen to that. I think most of us have a few tapes worth to share, myself included. Given the current volume of torrents though, it might be an idea to continue to share these via Yousendit, Rapidshare etc. Talking of which, there was a torrent going round a while ago called '_BBC Radio Sessions' that had a lot of Peel sessions on it, not all of which are included in the current set of Peel compilations. There's no point me reseeding it right now, especially as your client is probably groaning at the seams, but I'll go through it and compile all those not already in the sharing pot and upload them somewhere. As luck would have it, I'd just finished comiling this lot onto some audio DVD's, which, of course, I'll have to do all over again now, because there's so much new material to add (or at least there will be if they ever finish downloading....) cheers Roger --- deedeeramain wrote: > I'd like to give a hearty thank you to Saipanda and > Kevin (Beech) for > their recent contributions! > If any body else out there has Peel recordings > sitting on trusty C30 > C60 C90 (Go!) - now's the time to be thinking about > encoding them to > mp3! > The Peel group might even do it for you! - let us > know what you got! > Hello to everyone in the Peel group! > Dee Dee > > From alan@... Wed Nov 14 20:53:21 2007 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:53:21 -0000 Subject: [peel] Respect! References: Message-ID: <000901c826f8$02f2f180$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Hear, Hear with the hearty thanks ... Someone on this group volunteered to convert some of my tapes to MP3 a year or three ago. I sent off 6 and sat back and waited ..... In the meantime, my old computer died and I lost all my emails, and I can't remember who it was. So if you're out there - how are you getting on?? If you haven't had time, please return them because I should be able to have a go myself with my new PC. I made copies, but the originals would obviously be better. I don't suppose anyone's keeping a 'catalogue' of what shows are available; there's no point in converting shows which have already been done by someone else (and probably of a better quality than mine), The tapes I'm referring to contain Desert Island Discs; John on God Of The Week, which I think was a feature on Simon Mayo's show; A show with Andy Kershaw from Glastonbury '93; John standing in for Mark Radcliffe on 3 consecutive nights in March '96 Cheers Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: deedeeramain To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:28 AM Subject: [peel] Respect! I'd like to give a hearty thank you to Saipanda and Kevin (Beech) for their recent contributions! If any body else out there has Peel recordings sitting on trusty C30 C60 C90 (Go!) - now's the time to be thinking about encoding them to mp3! The Peel group might even do it for you! - let us know what you got! Hello to everyone in the Peel group! Dee Dee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 From mastermazza@... Thu Nov 15 00:59:00 2007 From: mastermazza@... (mastermazza) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:59:00 -0000 Subject: never played morrissey session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll too be interested in what turns up. Thanks From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 15 20:41:10 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 9 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! I had 10 complete seeds for JP torrent 8 of 17 so now I've started 9 of 17! I received an error message uploading to Mininova. When I tried again, the website told me that that torrent had already been uploaded. I couldn't find it immediately on the Mininova site so I uploaded the torrent (successfully) onto 'The Pirate bay'. Sooooooo; if you can't find it on 'Mininova', you should find it at the 'Pirate Bay'. Once again - and we're doing pretty good at this people! - if you were lucky enough to get a complete copy of the JP torrent 8 of 17 - please keep seeding this for as long as you can. Some of the community have slower connections than you and we need to continue seeding for a while to ensure we get a bunch of copies circulating! Hey! I hope Alan gets his tapes back! Come on! Who's the rotten swine?! 'Fess up! All the best! Dee Dee From roger.carruthers@... Thu Nov 15 21:19:43 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:19:43 +0000 Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 9 of 17 now seeding! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know I volunteered to transfer someone¹s tapes for them a while ago ­ I don¹t think it was Alan, but if it was, I certainly never got them. Iirc, we didn¹t even get as far as exchanging addresses, whoever it was... But I¹ll search the list tomorrow to check. As for the torrents, my thanks to you deedee for the tech advice; after much screwing around with my router I¹m still getting pretty feeble download rates, but at least my client assures me that I have a port open... Ah well, at least I¹m still managing to seed compilation 2 at a respectable rate. Once again, much power to you for sharing these, Cheers Roger On 15/11/07 19:41, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > > > > Hello Chaps! > > I had 10 complete seeds for JP torrent 8 of 17 so now I've started 9 > of 17! > > I received an error message uploading to Mininova. When I tried again, > the website told me that that torrent had already been uploaded. I > couldn't find it immediately on the Mininova site so I uploaded the > torrent (successfully) onto 'The Pirate bay'. > > Sooooooo; if you can't find it on 'Mininova', you should find it at > the 'Pirate Bay'. > > Once again - and we're doing pretty good at this people! - if you were > lucky enough to get a complete copy of the JP torrent 8 of 17 - please > keep seeding this for as long as you can. Some of the community have > slower connections than you and we need to continue seeding for a > while to ensure we get a bunch of copies circulating! > > Hey! I hope Alan gets his tapes back! Come on! Who's the rotten > swine?! 'Fess up! > > All the best! > > Dee Dee > > > > > > > > > > . > > From alan@... Fri Nov 16 01:24:48 2007 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:24:48 -0000 Subject: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 9 of 17 now seeding! References: Message-ID: <004601c827e7$19c8fc70$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> I honestly can't remember who it was, but I know it wasn't you Roger. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Carruthers To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [peel] John Peel Torrent Compilation 9 of 17 now seeding! I know I volunteered to transfer someone's tapes for them a while ago - I don't think it was Alan, but if it was, I certainly never got them. Iirc, we didn't even get as far as exchanging addresses, whoever it was... But I'll search the list tomorrow to check. As for the torrents, my thanks to you deedee for the tech advice; after much screwing around with my router I'm still getting pretty feeble download rates, but at least my client assures me that I have a port open... Ah well, at least I'm still managing to seed compilation 2 at a respectable rate. Once again, much power to you for sharing these, Cheers Roger On 15/11/07 19:41, "deedeeramain" wrote: Hello Chaps! I had 10 complete seeds for JP torrent 8 of 17 so now I've started 9 of 17! I received an error message uploading to Mininova. When I tried again, the website told me that that torrent had already been uploaded. I couldn't find it immediately on the Mininova site so I uploaded the torrent (successfully) onto 'The Pirate bay'. Sooooooo; if you can't find it on 'Mininova', you should find it at the 'Pirate Bay'. Once again - and we're doing pretty good at this people! - if you were lucky enough to get a complete copy of the JP torrent 8 of 17 - please keep seeding this for as long as you can. Some of the community have slower connections than you and we need to continue seeding for a while to ensure we get a bunch of copies circulating! Hey! I hope Alan gets his tapes back! Come on! Who's the rotten swine?! 'Fess up! All the best! Dee Dee . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 From s.moon984@... Fri Nov 16 15:04:58 2007 From: s.moon984@... (stephen877847) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:04:58 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This may not be the instance to which you are refering, but I remember John Walters filling in for Peel for, I think, a week during, what I estimate to be, June 1981. So that would be 4 shows I imagine. I have a tape of bits and pieces of it which I converted to MP3 a few years ago - he played the first Slits session, Adam and the Ants, Bow Wow Wow, Tenpole Tudor, T Rex amongst others, plus there was a healthy dollop of banter as you can imagine. Curiously the above is the same vintage as the recent crop of shows that you uploaded, for which I am eternally grateful to you. If anyone is interested I can upload the recording. Steve Moon --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > i was flicking through ken's book last night, > > does anyone remember walters filling in for peel one night ? > > was the house of love in session? i remember him playing christine by > both house of love and sioux and the banshees. > > does anyone remember the 2 john's hosting a video show in the 80's > > and can anyone remember peel introducing a welsh band on t.v.(again > 1980's)i thought this was on the last tube,but have found the clip on > youtube and it wasn't > any idea's anyone?? > > kev..... > From ken_garner@... Fri Nov 16 16:01:53 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:01:53 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's right, what you have there, Steve, are almost certainly the shows of Mon 8 June 1981 through to Thurs 11 June 1981. Session sheets only indicate a repeat of BeBop Deluxe (1st TX 17/3/75) on the Monday, but it sounds plausible that Walters would repeat The Slits and some of those others. This is the only Radio Times-documented instance of Walters depping for his presenter in 80-82, I think: before that they'd used Gambo, and afterwards it was Mark Ellen, Muriel Gray, then Kershaw. The unasked question is Why? - I suspect it was so Walters & Chris Lycett (who were acting as a trio with Peel for producing everything emanating out of Egton 318 in 1980-82) could put pressure on Peel to return the favour, and stand in for Walters Weekly (Sat 4-5pm, R1, 81-83) with the first series of Peel's Pleasures while Walters went on holiday that summer, for 6 weeks from (roughly) the start of July to mid August that year. So lister Colin Ellis was correct in something he told me offline, but which i Just ran out of time to check before going to press in the summer, and therefore does not appear in the shows index - yes, there was a first series of Peel's Pleasures in those weeks of summer 81. The shows I list in summer 82, and which exist in their entirety in the Mike Dick collection of off-air tapes currently being digitised at Maida Vale, constituted the second series Steve - is it detectable from your tapes, in either the sound quality or the slickness of the editing/links, for example, whether these are pre-recorded or live shows? I suspect Walters would have pre-recorded them rather than stay in R1 til midnight. Are they really good, snappy and funny, ie Walters at his best - or does he banter on and on? If the former, it might be nice to hear them! kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "stephen877847" wrote: > > This may not be the instance to which you are refering, but I remember > John Walters filling in for Peel for, I think, a week during, what I > estimate to be, June 1981. So that would be 4 shows I imagine. I have a > tape of bits and pieces of it which I converted to MP3 a few years ago - > he played the first Slits session, Adam and the Ants, Bow Wow Wow, > Tenpole Tudor, T Rex amongst others, plus there was a healthy dollop of > banter as you can imagine. > > Curiously the above is the same vintage as the recent crop of shows > that you uploaded, for which I am eternally grateful to you. If anyone > is interested I can upload the recording. > > > > Steve Moon > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > i was flicking through ken's book last night, > > > > does anyone remember walters filling in for peel one night ? > > > > was the house of love in session? i remember him playing christine by > > both house of love and sioux and the banshees. > > > > does anyone remember the 2 john's hosting a video show in the 80's > > > > and can anyone remember peel introducing a welsh band on t.v.(again > > 1980's)i thought this was on the last tube,but have found the clip on > > youtube and it wasn't > > any idea's anyone?? > > > > kev..... > > > From containsmildperil@... Fri Nov 16 19:46:39 2007 From: containsmildperil@... (containsmildperil) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:46:39 -0000 Subject: Hello and a request Message-ID: I've just joined this group and wanted to say how great it is to find so many like-minded Peelie fans. I'm looking forward to grabbing (and seeding) some of the torrents, and maybe one day soon I'll get around to converting some of my many tapes of Peel programmes (several boxes full, mainly from 1993-1997) to mp3. Just an on-the-off-chance request in case anyone has got around to organising their collection of shows and actually writing on the tapes what they are - for a long time I've been after a copy of the show from 15 October 2003. It was the eve of my 30th birthday and my other half secretly emailed in asking if Peelie would play a record for me; I know he was never that keen on doing requests but he played a Fall record for me and it made my night. I copied the programme onto mp3 using 'listen again', but we had some computer trouble and the file was lost. If anyone has this programme I'd be forever grateful! From r.fewster@... Fri Nov 16 20:59:25 2007 From: r.fewster@... (Richard Fewster) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:59:25 +0000 Subject: [peel] Hello and a request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6974965b0711161159g4cfbf5f7od38fd90e96a8aed9@...> Great stuff about your 93-97 collection. I for one would be like a kid in a sweet shop if you posted some of these. Very much my Peel era that was... On Nov 16, 2007 6:46 PM, containsmildperil wrote: > > > > > > > I've just joined this group and wanted to say how great it is to find > so many like-minded Peelie fans. I'm looking forward to grabbing (and > seeding) some of the torrents, and maybe one day soon I'll get around > to converting some of my many tapes of Peel programmes (several boxes > full, mainly from 1993-1997) to mp3. > > Just an on-the-off-chance request in case anyone has got around to > organising their collection of shows and actually writing on the tapes > what they are - for a long time I've been after a copy of the show from > 15 October 2003. It was the eve of my 30th birthday and my other half > secretly emailed in asking if Peelie would play a record for me; I know > he was never that keen on doing requests but he played a Fall record > for me and it made my night. I copied the programme onto mp3 > using 'listen again', but we had some computer trouble and the file was > lost. If anyone has this programme I'd be forever grateful! > > From thebarguest@... Fri Nov 16 21:05:05 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:05:05 -0000 Subject: do you remember?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve. Please, please upload said item ! I will if you will - I've got an edit of a show(s) from the same week which I uploaded to Phil's server a while ago. It consists of session tracks from Be Bop Deluxe and Can. Sadly most of Walters' chat has been edited out by the taper but its still interesting and has at least one weird moment.... It's a pity Walters didn't get his own permanent show - maybe the BBC thought he'd be too similar to Peel, after all he was Peel's 'producer'. Tragically, he died far too young. That reminds me - I believe our John was a red wine user. Isn't red wine supposed to be good for your heart ? And John wasn't a smoker or excessively overweight. He should have had another 10 years at least ..... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "stephen877847" wrote: > > This may not be the instance to which you are refering, but I remember > John Walters filling in for Peel for, I think, a week during, what I > estimate to be, June 1981. So that would be 4 shows I imagine. I have a > tape of bits and pieces of it which I converted to MP3 a few years ago - > he played the first Slits session, Adam and the Ants, Bow Wow Wow, > Tenpole Tudor, T Rex amongst others, plus there was a healthy dollop of > banter as you can imagine. > > Curiously the above is the same vintage as the recent crop of shows > that you uploaded, for which I am eternally grateful to you. If anyone > is interested I can upload the recording. > > > > Steve Moon > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > i was flicking through ken's book last night, > > > > does anyone remember walters filling in for peel one night ? > > > > was the house of love in session? i remember him playing christine by > > both house of love and sioux and the banshees. > > > > does anyone remember the 2 john's hosting a video show in the 80's > > > > and can anyone remember peel introducing a welsh band on t.v. (again > > 1980's)i thought this was on the last tube,but have found the clip on > > youtube and it wasn't > > any idea's anyone?? > > > > kev..... > > > From deedeeramain@... Fri Nov 16 21:38:31 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:38:31 -0000 Subject: Hello and a request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had a look ahead in the DVD torrents I'm posting but the only show for October 2003 I have to upload is Oct 2nd. Sorry! However! Maybe the shows you have in your shoebox contain equally memorable bits for other members of the community and you would be doing us a massive service by encoding to .mp3 and serving them up for the group! You would be known as a deity! I'm snivelling and grovelling here! Please, please, please! Plus! This sharing mentality is contagious! You become a contributor and that makes you feel good. It also encourages other people to do likewise and then (insh'allah!) a member of the group will contribute the very program you are looking for! Good luck in sourcing your file! Dee Dee From thebarguest@... Fri Nov 16 22:02:49 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:02:49 -0000 Subject: peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kevin. Listening to the 81 Flock of Seagulls show. I never thought I'd live to see (hear) the day again. I most probably heard this at the time, in a tiny student room at Lancaster Univ ! Living on a diet of Crackawheat and cheese (and the odd toke or 10). I saw AFOS in a pub in Liverpool around this time, and they blew me away (Peel says he really likes this 81 session). Thanks again for these great 81 shows ! Another point - there can't have been many people taping shows in 81 on a reel-to-reel, what's the story etc. (I'm not a big Oasis fan and can understand why Peely didn't rate them). Cheers, Stryker --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > another from 1981 > > http://download.yousendit.com/906209B473E0F6CB > > kev. > From festive50@... Fri Nov 16 22:36:44 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:36:44 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Hello and a request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Totally agree. Just checked server stats and so far over 300 Gb has been downloaded from it. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of deedeeramain Sent: 16 November 2007 20:39 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: Hello and a request ...... Please, please, please! Plus! This sharing mentality is contagious! You become a contributor and that makes you feel good. It also encourages other people to do likewise and then (insh'allah!) a member of the group will contribute the very program you are looking for! Good luck in sourcing your file! ....... Dee Dee Recent Activity a.. 4New Members b.. 1New Photos c.. 2New Files Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Instant smiles Share photos while you IM friends. Moderator Central Yahoo! Groups Join and receive produce updates. Wellness Spot Embrace Change Break the Yo-Yo weight loss cycle. . From containsmildperil@... Sat Nov 17 00:03:16 2007 From: containsmildperil@... (containsmildperil) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:03:16 -0000 Subject: Hello and a request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll make it a priority! Can't promise great sound quality (think student bedsit ambiance) and they're all mixed up so there'll be bits here and there, but I'll do my best. I've got the Peel Sessions book on my Christmas list so I should be able to work out some of the dates by who's in session. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > Totally agree. > Just checked server stats and so far over 300 Gb has been downloaded from > it. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > deedeeramain > Sent: 16 November 2007 20:39 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: Hello and a request > > > ...... Please, please, please! > Plus! This sharing mentality is contagious! You become a contributor > and that makes you feel good. It also encourages other people to do > likewise and then (insh'allah!) a member of the group will contribute > the very program you are looking for! > Good luck in sourcing your file! ....... > Dee Dee > > Recent Activity > a.. 4New Members > b.. 1New Photos > c.. 2New Files > Visit Your Group > Y! Messenger > Instant smiles > > Share photos while > > you IM friends. > > Moderator Central > Yahoo! Groups > > Join and receive > > produce updates. > > Wellness Spot > Embrace Change > > Break the Yo-Yo > > weight loss cycle. > . > From spiggytopes55@... Sat Nov 17 02:06:31 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:06:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows Message-ID: <970320.86031.qm@...> Stryker, I'll reply on Kevs behalf here. It was me recording these shows on R2R in the late 70's and early 80's. Soon after, I sold the RTR deck to my brother and have, up until the end of last year I think, never played the tapes. There were more than Peel alone and the tapes included a whole Kenny Everett Programme, some Charlie Gillett and others. Anyhow, I found last year, that my brother still had his original RTR and mine, in his loft gathering dust. I asked if I could borrow them and his wife suggested that I keep them. In conjuction with Kev, I downloaded these to the PC in MP3 and gave Kev copies. Recently I suggested he share them and the rest is history as they say. Kev also has quite a number of Cassetttes of mine in MP3. No doubt these will be shared in time. Kev and I have never met, but I owe him a pint or three. One day we will indeed enjoy a beer together. Maybe some of you lot can join us. In the meantime, let's share what we've got. Cheers, Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: thebarguest To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 16 November, 2007 9:02:49 PM Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows Hi Kevin. Listening to the 81 Flock of Seagulls show. I never thought I'd live to see (hear) the day again. I most probably heard this at the time, in a tiny student room at Lancaster Univ ! Living on a diet of Crackawheat and cheese (and the odd toke or 10). I saw AFOS in a pub in Liverpool around this time, and they blew me away (Peel says he really likes this 81 session). Thanks again for these great 81 shows ! Another point - there can't have been many people taping shows in 81 on a reel-to-reel, what's the story etc. (I'm not a big Oasis fan and can understand why Peely didn't rate them). Cheers, Stryker --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > another from 1981 > > http://download. yousendit. com/906209B473E0 F6CB > > kev. > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From tb666xx@... Sat Nov 17 02:19:29 2007 From: tb666xx@... (Tim Brooks) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:19:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows In-Reply-To: <970320.86031.qm@...> Message-ID: <577253.68034.qm@...> thanks for sharing guys...I listened to a bunch of the 1981 tapes back to back the other day...great stuff - I am downloading the torrents at a snails pace....but am putting what I have up on soulseek - I will be online all weekend starting later tonight (user tb666) - so anyone on here is more than welcome to come and dig in - I have a ton of peel stuff - lots most of you have but maybe some others you don't?.... I am particularly looking for stuff from 86-90 - I havre a few bits but not enough...anyone?? cheers Timxx ps. don't suppose anyone recorded mark lamaar's reggae shows?? I only caught the last 2 this series.. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From thebarguest@... Sat Nov 17 03:21:48 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:21:48 -0000 Subject: peel shows In-Reply-To: <970320.86031.qm@...> Message-ID: Hi Julian. Credit where credits due ! Well done. Welcome to the Pleasuredome. Timothy Grub --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Julian Porter wrote: > > Stryker, > > I'll reply on Kevs behalf here. It was me recording these shows on R2R in the late 70's and early 80's. Soon after, I sold the RTR deck to my brother and have, up until the end of last year I think, never played the tapes. There were more than Peel alone and the tapes included a whole Kenny Everett Programme, some Charlie Gillett and others. Anyhow, I found last year, that my brother still had his original RTR and mine, in his loft gathering dust. I asked if I could borrow them and his wife suggested that I keep them. In conjuction with Kev, I downloaded these to the PC in MP3 and gave Kev copies. Recently I suggested he share them and the rest is history as they say. Kev also has quite a number of Cassetttes of mine in MP3. No doubt these will be shared in time. > > Kev and I have never met, but I owe him a pint or three. One day we will indeed enjoy a beer together. Maybe some of you lot can join us. > > In the meantime, let's share what we've got. > > Cheers, > > Julian > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: thebarguest > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, 16 November, 2007 9:02:49 PM > Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows > > Hi Kevin. > Listening to the 81 Flock of Seagulls show. I never > thought I'd live to see (hear) the day again. I most probably heard this > at the time, in a tiny student room at Lancaster Univ ! Living on a > diet of Crackawheat and cheese (and the odd toke or 10). I saw AFOS in > a pub in Liverpool around this time, and they blew me away (Peel says > he really likes this 81 session). Thanks again for these great 81 > shows ! Another point - there can't have been many people taping shows > in 81 on a reel-to-reel, what's the story etc. (I'm not a big Oasis fan > and can understand why Peely didn't rate them). > > Cheers, > Stryker > > --- In peel@yahoogroups. com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > another from 1981 > > > > http://download. yousendit. com/906209B473E0 F6CB > > > > kev. > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > From deedeeramain@... Sat Nov 17 10:19:49 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:19:49 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 10 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! Once again we successfully uploaded double figures for the seeds of '9 of 17' so I've initiated '10 of 17'. Find the torrent at 'Mininova'. Please continue to seed 9 of 17 for a little longer if you managed to grab a copy! Regards, Dee Dee From rockerq@... Sat Nov 17 12:48:14 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:48:14 EST Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows Message-ID: > < dust. I asked if I could borrow them and his wife suggested that I keep them.>> > I bet she did! Rocker From john.bravin@... Sat Nov 17 14:14:39 2007 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:14:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: peel shows In-Reply-To: <970320.86031.qm@...> References: <970320.86031.qm@...> Message-ID: <473EE93F.1090103@...> When I finally got my RTR down from the loft and converted all my tapes from the 60's I discovered three things: i. we put up with truly horrible AM sound quality in those days, especially in the evenings ii. the early tapes had become very brittle - handle with great care and avoid using the FF if you can iii. tapes left unplayed for many years do leave a faint sound image from the adjacent layer of tape, it's like a faint echo you can hear during the quiet passages. Actually none of the above seemed to matter. You can pretty much get the music from anywhere if you try, but it was the hand crafted mixture of music, DJ links and abrupt endings etc that was special. Like the whole is more than the sum of parts. John Julian Porter wrote: Soon after, I sold the RTR deck to my brother and have, up until the end of last year I think, never played the tapes. From andthezmore@... Sat Nov 17 16:04:19 2007 From: andthezmore@... (andthezmore) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:04:19 -0000 Subject: And this day... Message-ID: well, tomorrow actually From andthezmore@... Sat Nov 17 16:05:41 2007 From: andthezmore@... (andthezmore) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:05:41 -0000 Subject: "Tom Jones sucks. And he's Welsh" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 18/11/94 http://download.yousendit.com/DBED8EF84C4B46AE From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 17 16:46:01 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:46:01 -0000 Subject: and there's more!! Message-ID: hi everyone,, new show on link below http://download.yousendit.com/0AD9D12F5B218C84 2 more before weekend is out kev.. From wemma48@... Sat Nov 17 18:25:34 2007 From: wemma48@... (wemma48) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:25:34 -0000 Subject: Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. Message-ID: When you are traveling alone, you may need girl friends. This site will help traveling people to find casual love or Long-term. Before you travel to a city, you can browse girls' profiles who live in or will go to that city. If there are nice girls, you can send invitation to them. They will welcome you. You can register for totally free. If you are interested, you can join and place your profile via this link: http://loveriding.bravehost.com/ From michael.jennings42@... Sat Nov 17 19:08:20 2007 From: michael.jennings42@... (Michael Jennings) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:08:20 -0000 Subject: [peel] Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601c82944$d82111e0$8268ff3e@DrAdey> All this Peel stuff and nice girls - Peel would have approved methinks _____ From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wemma48 Sent: 17 November 2007 17:26 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. When you are traveling alone, you may need girl friends. This site will help traveling people to find casual love or Long-term. Before you travel to a city, you can browse girls' profiles who live in or will go to that city. If there are nice girls, you can send invitation to them. They will welcome you. You can register for totally free. If you are interested, you can join and place your profile via this link: http://loveriding. bravehost.com/ From hubcity@... Sat Nov 17 21:55:13 2007 From: hubcity@... (Sean Carolan) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:55:13 -0500 Subject: [peel] Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. In-Reply-To: <000601c82944$d82111e0$8268ff3e@DrAdey> Message-ID: Folks, I'm sure there was something from The Coachwhips he could have played to mark the receipt of such an email... -Sean -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Michael Jennings Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 1:08 PM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. All this Peel stuff and nice girls - Peel would have approved methinks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wemma48 Sent: 17 November 2007 17:26 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. When you are traveling alone, you may need girl friends. This site will help traveling people to find casual love or Long-term. Before you travel to a city, you can browse girls' profiles who live in or will go to that city. If there are nice girls, you can send invitation to them. They will welcome you. You can register for totally free. If you are interested, you can join and place your profile via this link: http://loveriding.bravehost.com/ From rwprov52@... Sat Nov 17 22:37:05 2007 From: rwprov52@... (rwprov52) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:37:05 -0000 Subject: Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "wemma48" wrote: > > When you are traveling alone, you may need girl friends. This site will > help traveling people to find casual love or Long-term. Before you > travel to a city, you can browse girls' profiles who live in or will go > to that city. > > If there are nice girls, you can send invitation to them. They will > welcome you. You can register for totally free. > > If you are interested, you can join and place your profile via this > link: > http://loveriding.bravehost.com/ > What about 'Another Girl, Another Planet'? From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 17 23:24:33 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:24:33 -0000 Subject: another one Message-ID: http://download.yousendit.com/F4A325CF3A9F81B5 rah file due to large wave file From spiggytopes55@... Sat Nov 17 23:32:34 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:32:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. Message-ID: <692126.44641.qm@...> What about 'Another Girl, Another Planet'? Or maybe something by this bunch: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2757376 ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 18 09:47:24 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:47:24 -0000 Subject: new Message-ID: http://download.yousendit.com/8BF6A11A0773BC1F kev.. From jt.gray@... Sun Nov 18 11:06:07 2007 From: jt.gray@... (JOHN GRAY) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:06:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 10 of 17 now seeding! - plus 'Spinning on Air'! Message-ID: <827860.34386.qm@...> Thanks once again! As long as my hard drive will cope I can keep seeding the earlier ones - plus the Top Gear shows, now rolling again. I haven't completed 9 yet, but its moving along - curiously though, 6 is crawling slowly behind. 'Spinning on Air' is a show on WNYC New York Public Radio, which describes itself as being about 'unusual music'. You can download complete shows from its archive at http://www.wnyc.org/shows/spinning/ - click on 'archive' in the right hand column. You will find Robert Wyatt, Bridget St John, Sufjan Stevens, Devendra Banhart, and a whole load more. John Gray From roger.carruthers@... Sun Nov 18 12:48:48 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:48:48 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. In-Reply-To: <692126.44641.qm@...> Message-ID: Fantastic! I spent many years working as a fruit picker around Evesham, and if anywhere was ever going to spawn a band called ŒThe Cunts¹, it was there :-) That¹s made my day , Cheers Roger On 17/11/07 22:32, "Julian Porter" wrote: > > > > > What about 'Another Girl, Another Planet'? > > > Or maybe something by this bunch: > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2757 > 376 > =2757376> > > > From rockerq@... Sun Nov 18 12:56:16 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:56:16 EST Subject: [peel] Re: Riding and dating - travel and meet casual girl friends. Message-ID: > Fantastic! I spent many years working as a fruit picker around Evesham, and > if anywhere was ever going to spawn a band called ‘The Cunts’, it was there > :-) > That’s made my day , > Cheers > Roger > I may play a track in my www.dandelionradio.com show in January. Rocker PS Hope you have all voted in the festive 50! From roger.carruthers@... Sun Nov 18 18:22:09 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:22:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can I just bump this one, as we are enjoying so much Peely sharing atm, and I¹m already losing track of which ones I have and haven¹t downloaded. If we could adopt the suggested format of Peel _yyyymmdd_SessionActOrWhatever.mp3 Eg.Peel_1981_TheRussians.mp3, it would help some of us older listeners who are prone to such confusion ;-) It would also be a great help if contributors could put some kind of ident ­ even just a date ­ in the body of their post, as a Yousendit or Rapidshare link (eg. http://download.yousendit.com/8BF6A11A0773BC1F) doesn¹t tell us very much! Thanks once again, Roger > > > > > > . > > From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 18 19:32:23 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:32:23 -0000 Subject: 2 new one's Message-ID: can remember if i posted one of these last week? anyway enjoy! http://download.yousendit.com/3D191C2467662048 http://download.yousendit.com/484066D302DA1E7F don't forget to tip your cap to our julian who spent his evenings back in 1981 with finger possed over the pause button, 4 more left which will be in rah file format due to them being large wave files i will try and do one a night over the next few nights. then we get on to the c-120!!! 18 of the them and my bits and bob's just let me get my broadband sorted first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no one on here works for orange do they????? kev.. From thebarguest@... Sun Nov 18 20:15:38 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:15:38 -0000 Subject: 2 new one's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kev, Julian. I think you've given us both of these recently - 810518 and 810519 (Moondogs and Moderates respectively). Thanks so much for this stream of classic Peel .......... --- In peel@...m, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > can remember if i posted one of these last week? > > > anyway enjoy! > > http://download.yousendit.com/3D191C2467662048 > > http://download.yousendit.com/484066D302DA1E7F > > > don't forget to tip your cap to our julian who spent his evenings > back in 1981 with finger possed over the pause button, > > 4 more left which will be in rah file format due to them being large > wave files i will try and do one a night over the next few nights. > > then we get on to the c-120!!! 18 of the them and my bits and bob's > > just let me get my broadband sorted first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > no one on here works for orange do they????? > > kev.. > From alan@... Sun Nov 18 20:28:37 2007 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:28:37 -0000 Subject: [peel] 2 new one's References: Message-ID: <001601c82a19$38f66540$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> I think these have both been posted before (810518 & 19) Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: [peel] 2 new one's can remember if i posted one of these last week? anyway enjoy! http://download.yousendit.com/3D191C2467662048 http://download.yousendit.com/484066D302DA1E7F don't forget to tip your cap to our julian who spent his evenings back in 1981 with finger possed over the pause button, 4 more left which will be in rah file format due to them being large wave files i will try and do one a night over the next few nights. then we get on to the c-120!!! 18 of the them and my bits and bob's just let me get my broadband sorted first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no one on here works for orange do they????? kev.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 From alan@... Sun Nov 18 20:42:08 2007 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:42:08 -0000 Subject: [peel] 2 new one's References: <001601c82a19$38f66540$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Message-ID: <000901c82a1b$1b6a6420$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> and thank you very much for so doing ! Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Ford To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [peel] 2 new one's I think these have both been posted before (810518 & 19) Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: [peel] 2 new one's can remember if i posted one of these last week? anyway enjoy! http://download.yousendit.com/3D191C2467662048 http://download.yousendit.com/484066D302DA1E7F don't forget to tip your cap to our julian who spent his evenings back in 1981 with finger possed over the pause button, 4 more left which will be in rah file format due to them being large wave files i will try and do one a night over the next few nights. then we get on to the c-120!!! 18 of the them and my bits and bob's just let me get my broadband sorted first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no one on here works for orange do they????? kev.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 From john.bravin@... Sun Nov 18 22:02:36 2007 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:02:36 +0100 Subject: Spinning on Air In-Reply-To: <827860.34386.qm@...> References: <827860.34386.qm@...> Message-ID: <4740A86C.7040109@...> Thanks John. I could have gone through the whole of my life never hearing a "Bitch and The Exciting Conclusion" session which probably wouldn't have worried me, but I was surprised to hear the Bridget St John session recorded in 2006. John JOHN GRAY wrote: > > 'Spinning on Air' is a show on WNYC New York Public Radio, which > describes itself as being about 'unusual music'. You can download > complete shows from its archive at > http://www.wnyc.org/shows/spinning/ - click on 'archive' in the right > hand column. You will find Robert Wyatt, Bridget St John, Sufjan > Stevens, Devendra Banhart, and a whole load more. > > John Gray > > From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 18 22:57:15 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:57:15 -0000 Subject: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: come now roger don't you like surprises?? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > Can I just bump this one, as we are enjoying so much Peely sharing atm, and > I¹m already losing track of which ones I have and haven¹t downloaded. > > If we could adopt the suggested format of Peel > _yyyymmdd_SessionActOrWhatever.mp3 > Eg.Peel_1981_TheRussians.mp3, it would help some of us older listeners who > are prone to such confusion ;-) > > It would also be a great help if contributors could put some kind of ident > ­ even just a date ­ in the body of their post, as a Yousendit or > Rapidshare link (eg. http://download.yousendit.com/8BF6A11A0773BC1F) doesn¹t > tell us very much! > Thanks once again, > Roger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > From kevin_beech@... Sun Nov 18 23:03:37 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:03:37 -0000 Subject: 2 new one's In-Reply-To: <000901c82a1b$1b6a6420$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Message-ID: err.. whoops next 4 will be new ones i promise kev.. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ford" wrote: > > and thank you very much for so doing ! > > Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Ford > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:28 PM > Subject: Re: [peel] 2 new one's > > > > I think these have both been posted before (810518 & 19) > > Alan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kevin_beech > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:32 PM > Subject: [peel] 2 new one's > > > can remember if i posted one of these last week? > > anyway enjoy! > > http://download.yousendit.com/3D191C2467662048 > > http://download.yousendit.com/484066D302DA1E7F > > don't forget to tip your cap to our julian who spent his evenings > back in 1981 with finger possed over the pause button, > > 4 more left which will be in rah file format due to them being large > wave files i will try and do one a night over the next few nights. > > then we get on to the c-120!!! 18 of the them and my bits and bob's > > just let me get my broadband sorted first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > no one on here works for orange do they????? > > kev.. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 13:32 > From philip.gh@... Mon Nov 19 03:33:12 2007 From: philip.gh@... (phil) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:33:12 -0000 Subject: 2 new one's In-Reply-To: <001601c82a19$38f66540$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Message-ID: Yes, they have both been posted before. Thanks anyway to Kev and Julian, these are much appreciated, I look forward to getting hold of the others! Phil From robfleay@... Mon Nov 19 14:05:03 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:05:03 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: 2 new one's Message-ID: <20071119130503.ISHP29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Listening to the Ivor Cutler show and Peel's voice seem peculiarly high-pitched. Are these reels running fast or did his balls just drop deeper in his old age? I didn't start listening until 1987 so I don't recall his "old voice".. > Hi Kev, Julian. > I think you've given us both of these recently - > 810518 and 810519 (Moondogs and Moderates respectively). > Thanks so much for this stream of classic Peel .......... ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From dr_mango2004@... Mon Nov 19 14:43:03 2007 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:43:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: 2 new one's In-Reply-To: <20071119130503.ISHP29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <328229.55864.qm@...> If you have mp3 editing software, slow them down by about 8% and they sounds "normal". DM RobF wrote: Listening to the Ivor Cutler show and Peel's voice seem peculiarly high-pitched. Are these reels running fast or did his balls just drop deeper in his old age? I didn't start listening until 1987 so I don't recall his "old voice".. > Hi Kev, Julian. > I think you've given us both of these recently - > 810518 and 810519 (Moondogs and Moderates respectively). > Thanks so much for this stream of classic Peel .......... ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. From spiggytopes55@... Mon Nov 19 14:49:58 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:49:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: 2 new one's Message-ID: <935664.85185.qm@...> Rob, Running fast, or rather the current speed is right but the tapes were recorded too fast. All to do with a dodgy drive spindle. I'm led to believe Audacity seems to sort them out. Julian ----- Original Message ---- From: RobF To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 19 November, 2007 1:05:03 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Re: 2 new one's Listening to the Ivor Cutler show and Peel's voice seem peculiarly high-pitched. Are these reels running fast or did his balls just drop deeper in his old age? I didn't start listening until 1987 so I don't recall his "old voice".. > Hi Kev, Julian. > I think you've given us both of these recently - > 810518 and 810519 (Moondogs and Moderates respectively) . > Thanks so much for this stream of classic Peel .......... ------------ --------- --------- --------- -- Email sent from www.virginmedia. com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From wemma48@... Mon Nov 19 17:27:29 2007 From: wemma48@... (wemma48) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:27:29 -0000 Subject: Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? Message-ID: This website is for people living with herpes, hpv or other stds. Many lonely girls join this site and seek hot guys. Are you alone, too? You can join this website for free and search girls living with std in your local city. Then you can contact them via email, IM or webcam and meet them for love thing. This is totally free. You can place your ad via this link: http://hometown.aol.com/xiaojojo1982/pozlove.htm From robfleay@... Mon Nov 19 18:19:37 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:19:37 +0000 Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? Message-ID: <20071119171937.ENWN17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > This website is for people living with herpes, hpv or > other stds. Many lonely girls join this site and seek > hot guys. I can see the .com start-up guy pitching this business plan to his bank manager.. Seriously though - i think the list-owner (is it Stu?) needs to start moderating new members! ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From eddie.duffy@... Mon Nov 19 18:52:19 2007 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:52:19 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? In-Reply-To: <20071119171937.ENWN17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@... d.com> References: <20071119171937.ENWN17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <4349.83.104.185.49.1195494739.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> >> This website is for people living with herpes, hpv or >> other stds. Many lonely girls join this site and seek >> hot guys. > > I can see the .com start-up guy pitching this business plan to his bank > manager.. > Didn't you catch that episode of Dragons' Den, Rob? As I recall, Duncan Bannatyne was very impressed with their profit projections. From ken_garner@... Mon Nov 19 19:38:58 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:38:58 -0000 Subject: moderating Message-ID: I think stu does moderate new members, if I recall aright: I certainly had to ask him to join, or was it rejoin? I suspect this scam is clearly getting under the wire at yahoo central and is quite probably happening on other lists/groups too. Stu, can we ask yahoo to investigate? k From michael.jennings42@... Mon Nov 19 20:32:31 2007 From: michael.jennings42@... (Michael Jennings) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:32:31 -0000 Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? In-Reply-To: <4349.83.104.185.49.1195494739.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> References: <20071119171937.ENWN17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> <4349.83.104.185.49.1195494739.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> Message-ID: <000001c82ae2$ef2d2d70$3e69ff3e@DrAdey> Don't know about you but getting herpes through a casual liaison from the peel group is a little worrying. Can I get it by simply posting an email, or by posting something else?! I wondered what was meant by the term "uploading". Now I know. . . From rockerq@... Mon Nov 19 21:14:12 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:14:12 EST Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[peel]=20Many=20girls=20with=20herpes=20or=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?hpv=20are=20alone.=20Meet=20them=20for=A0=20=A0=20=A0=20c?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?asual=20love=20or=20lifetime=3F?= Message-ID: > < peel group is a little worrying. Can I get it by simply posting an email, or > by posting something else?!>> > Actually quite appropriate after the famous on-air "revelation" by Peelie that he'd had an STD! But don't worry - the only virus you'll catch is if you click on their link! Cheers! Rocker From sdmaclean@... Mon Nov 19 22:08:45 2007 From: sdmaclean@... (sdmaclean@...) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:08:45 +0000 Subject: OGWT Message-ID: <111920072108.12693.4741FB5D0009C021000031952200763704020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> Coincides nicely with the recent thread on Walters.. I just rented the Old Grey Whistle Test volume 2 DVD. While not blistering all the way through, it's well worth a look. My particular faves were Judee Sill (new to me) and the Undertones doing Jimmy Jimmy, which is/was quite wonderful. Ah those snorkel coats, now THAT was fashion. Of more relevance here is a Skiffle Jam of about 2 minutes, intro'ed by Andy Kershaw, looking about 12 years old I might add. On washboard is Walters, Peel on tea chest (?), Ro Newton on jug and Kershaw strumming one chord. It's somewhat tear-jerking but fun at the same time. AND Walters had a bloody good voice! Peel looked a bit embarrased by it. I wonder if it was the same show as him showing Mark Ellen videos of the Birthday Party? I don't recall him being on OGWT (or just WT as it had become) that often. Also of note in the DVD extras is the Old Grey Squirrel Test, a kind of Cuban Boys/Hamster Dance-like web film of the OGWT theme tune. Laugh.... Stuart From hubcity@... Wed Nov 21 01:03:05 2007 From: hubcity@... (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:03:05 -0500 Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? In-Reply-To: <000001c82ae2$ef2d2d70$3e69ff3e@DrAdey> Message-ID: Folks, Could an album whose songs are named after spam mail subject lines be a reasonable project to pursue? -Sean -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Michael Jennings Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:33 PM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? Don't know about you but getting herpes through a casual liaison from the peel group is a little worrying. Can I get it by simply posting an email, or by posting something else?! I wondered what was meant by the term "uploading". Now I know. . . From robfleay@... Wed Nov 21 10:35:04 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 9:35:04 +0000 Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? Message-ID: <20071121093502.PGLB29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > Could an album whose songs are named after spam mail subject lines be a > reasonable project to pursue? the frankie machine singles compilation "i love you and i don't want you to die" was named after a piece of spam email (advertising some anti-fat pills...this fat blokes wife didn't want him to die so she took a gamble and shelled out a few thousand dollars on anti-fat pills for him....apparently. Why would they lie?) ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From pbryant98@... Wed Nov 21 10:42:16 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:42:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? In-Reply-To: <20071121093502.PGLB29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <504011.4856.qm@...> After a quick glance in my spam folder, "Catch the Eye of Most Women" would be a good title for a song. What a creepy idea. I could think of several ways you could definately catch the eye of most women, none of them good. In fairness to the spammer (can there be such a thing as fairness to a spammer?) it was probably translated by Altavista from the Ukrainian. --- RobF wrote: > > Could an album whose songs are named after spam > mail subject lines be a > > reasonable project to pursue? > > the frankie machine singles compilation "i love you > and i don't want you to die" was named after a piece > of spam email (advertising some anti-fat > pills...this fat blokes wife didn't want him to die > so she took a gamble and shelled out a few thousand > dollars on anti-fat pills for him....apparently. Why > would they lie?) > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned > for spam > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From stuart@... Wed Nov 21 11:01:17 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:17 +0000 Subject: moderating In-Reply-To: <1195547766.359.99303.m46@yahoogroups.com> References: <1195547766.359.99303.m46@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <772C1DB6-795E-4D00-9DAA-CC008B3A8617@...> > I think stu does moderate new members, if I recall aright: I certainly > had to ask him to join, or was it rejoin? I do, we had a lot of problems with spam in the past so I added a comments field where the prospective user had to put in a reason for joining. Our friend with the undesirable habit joined with the comment: "Seems your group is great. I'm interested and want to join." Well, I fell for that one. New members can expect a more rigorous test, such as "in the 1979 session from Stiff Little Fingers, who was on drums?" (Ken's books are both upstairs, so I can't give an answer). Stuart is this music? ... po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb ... t: 01506 840063 ... e: editor@... From festive50@... Wed Nov 7 23:59:16 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:59:16 -0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. ftp://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 08:19:05 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:19:05 -0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. ftp://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 21:22:15 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:22:15 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. http://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 replace the http with ftp. (Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no avail) All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 20:56:11 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:56:11 -0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. ftp://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 22:18:06 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:18:06 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here are the details of my s e r v e r. F T P Address:- 82.44.181.124 User Name:- PeelList Password:- qP3VAEhA Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no avail) All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the s e r v e r for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention f t p s e r v e r there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 21:58:41 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:58:41 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here are the details of my server. FTP Address:- 82.44.181.124 User Name:- PeelList Password:- qP3VAEhA Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no avail) All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . From festive50@... Fri Nov 16 22:48:25 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:48:25 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: sunday 2nd post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's just a separate P.C. I store files on and people can download/upload files from/to it. It's been running non stop now, since Nov 2004 (barring the odd powercut) Here's the link to the server. Just click on the link. ftp://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Steve Sent: 14 November 2007 05:45 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: sunday 2nd post I'm a dunce. What is a server? and how do I access this from my web browser? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > > > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) > > Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come > clean. > Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked > people to e-mail me for login details. > Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose > logged in) > However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing > about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. > > > Here are the details of my s e r v e r. > > F T P Address:- The following Octet - 82 44 181 124 > > User Name:- PeelList > > Password:- qP3VAEhA > > > > > Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no > avail) > > > > All I ask is:- > > Don't be too greedy. > > I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the s e r > v e r for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". > > Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle > related stuff. > > Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being > (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion > Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing > the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. > > A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and > his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion > Radio are doing. > > So give us a listen. > > Regards > > Phil > > P.S. > > I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing > sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. > > I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our > Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > Domestic Empire > Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? > > > Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus > yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. > Should such a thing concern one. > > Cough, did I notice you mention f t p s e r v e r there > at all? (",) > > Gary Walsh > John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ > John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ > > On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - > bitrate.wma > > > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - > 128K.wma > > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > > chronologically. > > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP > server. > > Phil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > ROGER > > CARRUTHERS > > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > > on my mind for a while; > > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > > hard drive, I have things with names like: > > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > > etc. etc. > > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > > I've started renaming them all in the following > > format: > > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > > or for Festive Fifty's: > > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > > cheers > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > -- > Gary Walsh > johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com > > > > > > > Recent Activity > a.. 2New Members > b.. 2New Photos > c.. 5New Links > Visit Your Group > Y! Messenger > Files to share? > > Send up to 1GB of > > files in an IM. > > Cat Fanatics > on Yahoo! Groups > > Find people who are > > crazy about cats. > > Yahoo! Groups > Moderator Central > > An online resource > > for moderators. > . > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Roger > Carruthers > Sent: 11 November 2007 17:51 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] sunday 2nd post > > > Rapidshare unfortunately has a file size limit of 100MB, so it would take > an awful long time to distribute them this way. > However, if/when I've got a bit more to offer (only completed downloading > disc 2 so far) I'd be happy to burn `em & post `em to you. I'll contact you > off list and you can send me an address. > How could anyone not want to help a Dandelion DJ ? :-) > Cheers > Roger > > > On 11/11/07 15:36, "rockerq@..." wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone taking the trouble to post these shows! > > If anyone is able / willing to make copies of the 17 dvd set would be > interested in getting hold of it! Mail me off list! (unable to use torrents > at present) > > Or would an upload to rapidshare or similar be possible? > > Cheers! > > Rocker > > rockerq@... > rocker@... > www.myspace.com/rockerdj > From pbryant98@... Mon Nov 19 17:35:35 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:35:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <701516.65684.qm@...> --- wemma48 wrote: > This website is for people living with herpes, hpv > or other stds. Many > lonely girls join this site and seek hot guys. > > Are you alone, too? You can join this website for > free and search > girls living with std in your local city. Then you > can contact them > via email, IM or webcam and meet them for love > thing. > > This is totally free. You can place your ad via this > link: > http://hometown.aol.com/xiaojojo1982/pozlove.htm This is of course very tempting but still, I think I'll just play Infected by The The really loud and imagine I've got herpes. wistfully, pb ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 21:26:15 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:26:15 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. http://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 replace the http with the initials for file transfer protocol . (Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no avail) All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 21:37:06 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:37:06 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. http://tinyurl.com/29er5x Must be a filter in Yahoo as I've tried to send this a few times to no avail) All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 2New Photos c.. 5New Links Visit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central An online resource for moderators. . From spiggytopes55@... Mon Nov 19 17:36:27 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:36:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? Message-ID: <35371.83517.qm@...> What was that band from Evesham? ----- Original Message ---- From: wemma48 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 19 November, 2007 4:27:29 PM Subject: [peel] Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casual love or lifetime? This website is for people living with herpes, hpv or other stds. Many lonely girls join this site and seek hot guys. Are you alone, too? You can join this website for free and search girls living with std in your local city. Then you can contact them via email, IM or webcam and meet them for love thing. This is totally free. You can place your ad via this link: http://hometown. aol.com/xiaojojo 1982/pozlove. htm ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From festive50@... Thu Nov 8 20:41:25 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:41:25 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. ftp://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From festive50@... Wed Nov 7 21:59:58 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:59:58 -0000 Subject: [peel] File naming convention? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Oops, I let that slip didn't I. OK, it's a fair cop. I may as well come clean. Periodically, in the past, I have advertised in this group and asked people to e-mail me for login details. Whereupon I ask users to send me their I.P. address (purely to see whose logged in) However, with pressure of work, I haven't the time for all that faffing about. So, here are the login details I usually send out. Here's the link to the server. ftp://PeelList:qP3VAEhA@82.44.181.124 All I ask is:- Don't be too greedy. I know It's tempting. Jan Bear from Bearsuit on accessing the server for the 1st time, said she "felt like an elephant in a bun shop". Sever currently stands a 63 Gb (nearly 3000 files) of Peel and Marcelle related stuff. Also, there's loads more stuff I've had to take off for the time being (about 50 Gb - 7000 files) , as I'm also heavily involved with Dandelion Radio ( www.dandelionradio.com ) and I also use the server for distributing the shows to our DJs and the demos sent in by bands and record labels. A final note, although we all have nostalgic feelings for John Peel and his shows, we should also be looking forward, which is what we at Dandelion Radio are doing. So give us a listen. Regards Phil P.S. I would be grateful if you would send me your I.P. address. Nothing sinister, I just use it to check whose logged on. I'll just see how this goes. If it starts causing problems with our Dandelion use, then I may have to have a rethink. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Domestic Empire Sent: 07 November 2007 20:08 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] File naming convention? Yes Phil I entirely agree and for all the reasons you state above plus yyymmdd is, I believe, the internationally recognised date format. Should such a thing concern one. Cough, did I notice you mention ftp server there at all? (",) Gary Walsh John Peel Torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ John Peel Blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/ On 07/11/2007, Phil Edwards wrote: > I prefer the format John Peel yyyymmdd - featured session - bitrate.wma > > eg. John Peel 20010829 - Lift to Experience Live at Maida Vale - 128K.wma > The advantage being when sorted alphabetically, it will also be sorted > chronologically. > These are how I store all of my Peel and Marcelle shows on my FTP server. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ROGER > CARRUTHERS > Sent: 07 November 2007 09:58 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] File naming convention? > > > We seem to be on quite a run of sharing atm, so I'd > just like to drop something into the mix that's been > on my mind for a while; > Taking a random selection of Peel related files on my > hard drive, I have things with names like: > 1979-12-12a.mp3 > BBC Radio 1 - John Peel Party 40 October 1979 - 03 - > Cassette Two Side A.mp3 > JP 11 July 1990 1A.mp3 > 02.08.13 - john peel.mp3 > etc. etc. > In order to know what I actually have and don't have, > I've started renaming them all in the following > format: > Peel 01-02-03 (session act). mp3 > or for Festive Fifty's: > FF03(5-32).mp3 > > Perhaps we could agree to adopting some such > convention for files we share ? The format I'm using > is simply one that sorts well on a Mac, but I'm open > to suggestions if anyone has any better ideas... > Thanks again to all those involved. When I get a > minute I'll be adding to the pot, > cheers > Roger > > > > -- Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From andrew@... Wed Nov 21 11:44:18 2007 From: andrew@... (Andrew Chatterton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:44:18 +0000 Subject: Many girls with herpes or hpv are alone. Meet them for casu Message-ID: That brings to mind the following idea, from The Word Magazine: It's the return of the Spam-generated country compilation album! http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/it-039-s-return-spam-generated-country-compilation-album Best, Andrew From mar.celle@... Wed Nov 21 12:41:01 2007 From: mar.celle@... 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ANOTHER NICE MESS ‘’Indispensable listening’’ ‘’If you’re missing Peel, allow this to feed you’’ ‘’Marcelle could have been a great teacher in a class of (Mick Patrick, Scotland) (Sarah Nelson, England) ‘curiousity’!’’ (Peter-Max Jacobsen, Denmark) DFM Radio, 20th November 2007 Hostess: Marcelle van Hoof LISTEN LIVE online: www.dfm.nu every Tuesday between 19-22 hours CET (Dutch time) / 18-21 hours GMT (UK time) LISTEN AT ANY OTHER TIME via www.anothernicemess.com WEBSITE: www.anothernicemess.com (For PLAYLISTS, LISTENING AGAIN, DOWNLOADING PREVIOUS SHOWS, REVIEWS, INFORMATION, CONTACT ADDRESS and more) MYSPACE: www.myspace.com/djanothernicemess [You are receiving this Another Nice Mess message because you either subscribed to the mailing list and/or we have something in common - Good Underground Music! If you no longer want to hear from Another Nice Mess then please reply with the words 'Unsubscribe' in the subject box]. From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 21 17:46:33 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:46:33 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 11 of 17 now seeding! Plus! Cheap Viagra Message-ID: Hello Chaps! Sorry I took so long to seed the 10 of 17 file. My ancient laptop melted on me down in London while uploading 10 of 17 and trying to download all those 'YouSendIt' files that Kevin's been fielding in the 'Peel' Yahoo group! I was in a hotel with a pretty good broadband connection considering I was fire-walled. I was uploading at +/- 150 kbs! Not bad 4 free! So; I'm back home now. The ancient laptop is definitely Kaput and my ancient desktop won't run a torrent client! I'm now using a borrowed laptop and guess I've got to bite the bullet and buy a new laptop in the meantime. At least I can still get hold of the XP OS so there should be a service pack out to correct all the bugs in Vista when I get around to upgrading to Microsofts latest lame OS! The latest torrent can be found at both 'Mininova' and 'The Pirate Bay' - a bunch of shows from 2001 & 2002. I think I managed to liberate 12 seeds of Torrent 10 of 17 (sounds like 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'!) so...... You know the drill! Share share share! Keep on keeping on! Riving Ton From festive50@... Wed Nov 21 22:00:59 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:00:59 -0000 Subject: FW: Peel posts - Apologies Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Phil Edwards [mailto:festive50@...] Sent: 21 November 2007 20:42 To: Stuart Mchugh Subject: RE: Peel posts - Apologies Sorry about that everyone and especially Stuart. As you've probably gathered, all the messages were the same (with slight tweaks). re my F.T.P. server. After the 1st message failed to get posted, I thought it may be due to a Yahoo filter (concerning FTP servers), so I incrementally altered each message until 1 finally got through. Sorry again. I feel slightly guilty about advertising the server (even though it is a totally free service). So I limit the frequency of these adverts. I felt though that the time was ripe in view of the recent flurry of Group messages. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Stuart McHugh [mailto:stuart.mchugh@...]On Behalf Of Stuart Mchugh Sent: 21 November 2007 10:09 To: festive50@... Subject: Peel posts Hi Phil Just wanted to let you know - all your posts from 7th - 16th November to the peel group were identified as spam (I have no idea why!) I've approved them so hopefully they'll all appear in one rather mystifying rush... Cheers Stuart Stuart Mchugh stuart@... From kevin_beech@... Thu Nov 22 11:08:41 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:41 -0000 Subject: new shows Message-ID: rah files shhhhhhhh!!! sent from work as my broadband is down shhhhhhhhhhhhh http://download.yousendit.com/5BAEFC7804661B44 http://download.yousendit.com/031033F4615CE300 shows from 1978 must go!!!! kev.. From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 22 21:31:27 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:31:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] new shows Message-ID: <42713.13033.qm@...> |whisper| Thanks once again Kevin! You're a star! Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:08:41 AM Subject: [peel] new shows rah files shhhhhhhh!!! sent from work as my broadband is down shhhhhhhhhhhhh http://download. yousendit. com/5BAEFC780466 1B44 http://download. yousendit. com/031033F4615C E300 shows from 1978 must go!!!! kev.. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From deedeeramain@... Fri Nov 23 12:09:55 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:09:55 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 12 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! 18 fully completed seeds now floating in the ether for 11 of 17 so I terminated my seed to bring you the latest instalment! Torrent Compilation 12 of 17 can be snarfed at either 'Mininova' or 'The Pirate Bay'. And to finalise things (let me just line up the cracked record!) - If you managed to get a complete copy of 11 of 17 - would you please continue to seed it for a little while longer to allow those in the community with slower connections to acquire it also? Thanks! All the best, Dee Dee From andthezmore@... Fri Nov 23 21:11:49 2007 From: andthezmore@... (andthezmore) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:11:49 -0000 Subject: "Don't say that we'll pale into the background" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 24/11/1996 Broadcast (literally) 90mins http://download.yousendit.com/5F4F09B87F231A0D From kevin_beech@... Fri Nov 23 23:25:41 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:25:41 -0000 Subject: undertones anyone?? Message-ID: ran out of time with yousendit so back to torrents mininova look for 790829 Peel Programme 29th August 1979 with Session by The Undertones wav kev.. From kevin_beech@... Fri Nov 23 23:35:56 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:35:56 -0000 Subject: b-movies and positive noise Message-ID: mininova again look for 810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & Positive Noise wav From deedeeramain@... Sat Nov 24 03:11:54 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:11:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] b-movies and positive noise Message-ID: <23784.35253.qm@...> Kev! Muchas gracias! When I get these puppies D/L'd - I;ll stick 'em on 'YouShareIt' for you! Still got quite a bit of credit left! Cheers! DeeDee ----- Original Message ---- From: kevin_beech To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:35:56 PM Subject: [peel] b-movies and positive noise mininova again look for 810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & Positive Noise wav ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 24 13:00:23 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:00:23 -0000 Subject: b-movies and positive noise In-Reply-To: <23784.35253.qm@...> Message-ID: thanks dee dee! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Riving Ton wrote: > > Kev! > Muchas gracias! > When I get these puppies D/L'd - I;ll stick 'em on 'YouShareIt' for you! Still got quite a bit of credit left! > Cheers! > DeeDee > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: kevin_beech > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:35:56 PM > Subject: [peel] b-movies and positive noise > > mininova again > > look for > 810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & Positive > Noise wav > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > From kevin_beech@... Sat Nov 24 14:37:11 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:37:11 -0000 Subject: undertones torrent urgent read me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: sorry sorry sorry old torrent was faulty upload with new one now as rah file mininova look for 790829 Peel Programme 29th August 1979 with Session by The Undertones rar please note rah on end not wav. again sorry kev.. From ddriscoll@... Sat Nov 24 15:17:20 2007 From: ddriscoll@... (aurbisons) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:17:20 -0000 Subject: Walters Week Message-ID: Dear ALL Bona fide lurker here... I did once have an attempt at BIT TORRENTing but never really understood it It was always felt like waiting for you luggage at an airport Hoping! Waiting! It never came around the conveyor .. Am I at the right conveyor? Am I at the right airport? It must be me!! That said, all the people I know who seem proficient in the art of BIT TORRENTing have PC's that appear to be foo-ked! It must be me! So I am a confirmd technophobe!! It maybe be a little off subject. The point of my little admission is, when I was younger (sadly, some time ago) I would tape John Walter's little "Walters Week" "Music Paper Reviews" segments on the Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, Janice Long shows & go down the pub or linseed a cormorant or whatever & listen next day. I would tape over them from week to week ... Recently I have been copying loads of old cassettes to disc & found probably around 30 – 40 of these little recordings all about 15-20 minutes long. I'm normally quite anal when it comes to scribbling down dates but as I expected to tape over them, I never bothered. I don't know the dates of the recordings Listening to the subject matter my guess is from the end of 1983 to the start of 1985. I stuck a number of them on DIVSHARE here: http://fruitierthanthou.blogspot.com/search?q=walters They are all around 16-18MB, I don't know if that is big or what.. I copied them for some ex-pat friends in the US I hope to copy more of them when I have more time over Christmas Regards Dave END OF MESSAGE From thebarguest@... Sat Nov 24 18:47:52 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:47:52 -0000 Subject: Walters Week In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Linseed a cormorant" - I like it. Is it similar to creosoting a fence ? Love the smell of creosote ! I think its illegal now so savour it if you sniff it. Thanks for the Walters stuff - is there any music in there or is it all talking ? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "aurbisons" wrote: > > Dear ALL > > Bona fide lurker here... > > I did once have an attempt at BIT TORRENTing but never really > understood it It was always felt like waiting for you luggage at an > airport Hoping! Waiting! It never came around the conveyor .. Am I > at the right conveyor? Am I at the right airport? It must be me!! > That said, all the people I know who seem proficient in the art of > BIT TORRENTing have PC's that appear to be foo-ked! It must be me! > So I am a confirmd technophobe!! > > It maybe be a little off subject. The point of my little admission > is, when I was younger (sadly, some time ago) I would tape John > Walter's little "Walters Week" "Music Paper Reviews" segments on the > Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, Janice Long shows & go down the pub or > linseed a cormorant or whatever & listen next day. I would tape over > them from week to week ... Recently I have been copying loads of old > cassettes to disc & found probably around 30 – 40 of these little > recordings all about 15-20 minutes long. I'm normally quite anal > when it comes to scribbling down dates but as I expected to tape over > them, I never bothered. I don't know the dates of the recordings > Listening to the subject matter my guess is from the end of 1983 to > the start of 1985. > > I stuck a number of them on DIVSHARE here: > http://fruitierthanthou.blogspot.com/search?q=walters > > They are all around 16-18MB, I don't know if that is big or what.. > I copied them for some ex-pat friends in the US > I hope to copy more of them when I have more time over Christmas > > Regards > > Dave > END OF MESSAGE > From domesticempire@... Sat Nov 24 19:26:18 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Gary) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:26:18 -0000 Subject: 'My Top Ten' - Andy Peebles Interviews John Peel Message-ID: Having time on one's hands to trawl the net can really pay off sometimes. This is another gem from The People's Archive. Let me hand you over Ross... "As mentioned in my previous post in this community I've an mp3 of John's appearance on the Andy Peebles hosted show MY TOP TEN, which was the less frequent BBC Radio 1 equivalent of Radio 4's Desert Island Discs. A few people have asked about it so I've uploaded it to a file hosting site. Help yourself and feel free to proliferate." Thank you Ross (",) It's a good quality cassette rip at 192kbps CBR 44.0 MB (46240880 bytes). | Ross' link here: http://community.livejournal.com/john_peel/ | My blog entry here: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/2007/11/my- top-ten-andy-peebles-john-peel.html From ddriscoll@... Sun Nov 25 00:31:59 2007 From: ddriscoll@... (Dave Driscoll) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:31:59 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Walters Week References: Message-ID: <001b01c82ef2$35b0ed50$ccc92a50@DRISCOLL> I don't know about CREOSOTING other than it's an anagram of "Erotic Song"... The WALTERS stuff is more or less him on form... There is some music on them occasionally where I haven't been able (re: arsed) to edit them out... To be honest I am more of a techno-incompetent rather than technophobe Regards Dave END OF MESSAGE ----- Original Message ----- From: thebarguest To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Walters Week "Linseed a cormorant" - I like it. Is it similar to creosoting a fence ? Love the smell of creosote ! I think its illegal now so savour it if you sniff it. Thanks for the Walters stuff - is there any music in there or is it all talking ? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "aurbisons" wrote: > > Dear ALL > > Bona fide lurker here... > > I did once have an attempt at BIT TORRENTing but never really > understood it . It was always felt like waiting for you luggage at an > airport . Hoping! Waiting! It never came around the conveyor .. Am I > at the right conveyor? Am I at the right airport? It must be me!! > That said, all the people I know who seem proficient in the art of > BIT TORRENTing have PC's that appear to be foo-ked! It must be me! > So I am a confirmd technophobe!! > > It maybe be a little off subject. The point of my little admission > is, when I was younger (sadly, some time ago) I would tape John > Walter's little "Walters Week" "Music Paper Reviews" segments on the > Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, Janice Long shows & go down the pub or > linseed a cormorant or whatever & listen next day. I would tape over > them from week to week ... Recently I have been copying loads of old > cassettes to disc & found probably around 30 - 40 of these little > recordings all about 15-20 minutes long. I'm normally quite anal > when it comes to scribbling down dates but as I expected to tape over > them, I never bothered. I don't know the dates of the recordings . > Listening to the subject matter my guess is from the end of 1983 to > the start of 1985. > > I stuck a number of them on DIVSHARE here: > http://fruitierthanthou.blogspot.com/search?q=walters > > They are all around 16-18MB, I don't know if that is big or what.. > I copied them for some ex-pat friends in the US > I hope to copy more of them when I have more time over Christmas > > Regards > > Dave > END OF MESSAGE > From dutch_record_59@... Sun Nov 25 10:56:24 2007 From: dutch_record_59@... (Gert Stuut) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:56:24 -0000 Subject: Teardrop Explodes Peel Sessions Message-ID: Hi, I noticed the recent "Peel Session plus" cd from the Teardrop Explodes, doesn't include their 3rd Peel Session! So I uploaded all three songs in the files section. Enjoy, Gert From deedeeramain@... Sun Nov 25 13:30:24 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:30:24 -0000 Subject: Recent shares Message-ID: Wow! Loads of great new shares from 'Andthezmore', Kevin, Gert and 'Aurbisons' - thanks very much! Well appreciated! Well done to Gary (johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com) for spotting the orphan floating about! Chin Chin! Dee Dee From deedeeramain@... Sun Nov 25 14:11:32 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:11:32 -0000 Subject: One for the moderators? Message-ID: Just nosying around the aite and find that 'Teenage Kicks 3000' has no related Peel tapes - it's a site parked for making money when you click on the links. Superfluous eh? DeeDee From so_it_goes_2512@... Sun Nov 25 16:53:27 2007 From: so_it_goes_2512@... (Steve) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:53:27 -0000 Subject: One for the moderators? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, DeeDee, I think I was nearly caught by that one once. Especially galling that there is already a perfectly decent site with a similar name that offers great Peel-related downloads, and I hear the blogger who operates it is a really nice guy who is running a Festive Fifty poll at the moment...I'll get my coat. [;)] --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "deedeeramain" wrote: > > Just nosying around the aite and find that 'Teenage Kicks 3000' has no > related Peel tapes - it's a site parked for making money when you > click on the links. > Superfluous eh? > > DeeDee > From deedeeramain@... Sun Nov 25 19:13:25 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:13:25 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 13 of 17 is now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! I go bored waiting for the number of completed seeds to reach double figures for '12 of 17'. I finally decided to stop when the volume of uploaded data reached 10 GB! (The file was only 4.3 GB in size!). I'm not sure if people complete the torrent then remove it or there's just so many people D/L'ing this one that everyone has a little bit of the whole. Hopefully those little bits will be enough to complete the torrent also. I also hope that the lucky 5 complete seeds continue sharing for a little while longer to help out the rest of the community! John Peel Torrent Compilation 13 of 17 is now seeding! Find it at either 'Mininova' or 'The Pirate Bay'. 4 more torrents to upload with this one ('17 of 17' is in circulation already as you know because of the interest in the 'Peelenium'). I have two more weeks until I move to Saudi so I should just about do it! Cheers! Dee Dee From hubcity@... Mon Nov 26 13:38:08 2007 From: hubcity@... (hubcity@...) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:38:08 -0500 Subject: [OT] [Altrok] Update #183: Support Your Local Web Radio Station! Message-ID: <0JS400F5X5RRH3N0@...> Folks, Firstly, the important stuff: Altrok Radio is at http://www.altrokradio.com Please remember to tune in whenever you can - every hour you listen turns into more visibility for the station; we show up higher in search listings, and such like that. And if you'd like to help us keep the stream running, check out the advertisers if they appeal to you; your interest actually helps fund us. Of course, you can't help us if you find that listening is either annoying or difficult, and there are lots of ways you can smooth that process out. Here's a few: 1. Use an MP3 player to listen. Live365, our provider, starts off with a web-based player that uses Windows Media to play the station. Unfortunately, that creates two problems: the station's being translated from its native MP3 format, which deteriorates the sound quality, and the player window itself may open other ad windows that degrade your system's performance. Thankfully, they provide an option to use your own MP3 player. You can make this change by logging into the Live365 website, then choosing "My Live365" and clicking "listen Settings" - under "MP3 Player", choose the option that enables your own default MP3 player. Then, when you start the station, just close all the other web-based windows. (If you like having the songs display, you can go to http://www.altrok.com/streams.shtml to see what's playing.) 2. Once you've done that, you might consider using Jet Audio (www.jetaudio.com) to listen. It comes with MP3Pro decoding, meaning you get to listen in fully CD quality. You can also get an MP3Pro plugin for WinAmp; search for MP3Pro among the Input plugins at http://www.winamp.com Now that you've done all that, you might want to know what you're listening to... This week, our Grinders (the stuff we play heavily) include music from: - Voxhaul Broadcast - Moving Units - Motel Creeps - Hot Chip - Young Galaxy - The Maple State Plus we've got newly-added music: - Kyle Andrews - Get Mad - Carbon-Silicon - What The F--k (radio edit) - Mitch Easter - Time Warping - Elle s'appelle - She Sells Sea Shells - Frightened Rabbit - The Greys - Calvin Harris - Colours - Kaiser Chiefs - Flowers In The Rain - The Killers - Tranquilize (feat. Lou Reed) - Lima Research Society - Android Boy (Reboot) - Love Ends Disaster! - Suzanne - The Raveonettes - Aly, Walk With Me - James Severy - Do The Circus Circus - The Steers - Rewind Repeat - Wire - No Warning Given - Yeasayer - 2080 Our Newly-Added Classics: - Julian Cope - Pulsar - The Cure - In Between Days - Joe Jackson - Sunday Papers - The Lords Of The New Church - Open Your Eyes - The Pressure Boys - Policeman (In My Neighbor's Yard) - The Replacements - I Will Dare - The Smiths - Barbarism Begins at Home - The Stranglers - Straighten Out - The Wonder Stuff - The Size Of A Cow As always, thanks for listening! - Sean Carolan Altrok Radio On your computer right now at http://www.altrokradio.com On the radio Fridays at 10pm, at 90.5 The Night From Phyll@... Mon Nov 26 15:57:17 2007 From: Phyll@... (Phyll@...) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:57:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: Teardrop Explodes Peel Sessions Message-ID: <704450.18971196089037139.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Has anyone else heard what seemed to be a Teardrop Explodes outtake on the radio only to discover it's the new Kaiser Chiefs single! It's hard to think it's not a deliberate pastiche, each bit of the song seems to be a different Copey cliche, however - i can't for the life of me put my finger on which specific TE/JC tunes this track is robbed from - any ideas? From tonydonaghey@... Mon Nov 26 19:09:46 2007 From: tonydonaghey@... (tony donaghey) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:09:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] RE: Teardrop Explodes Peel Sessions In-Reply-To: <704450.18971196089037139.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: <922566.40953.qm@...> I've never quite trusted The Kaisers since I heard an interview in which they talked about being together for 10 years in various guises and this was their make or break time. They then seemed to nick bits from loads of places - I can't remember which song (maybe Riot) but there is a direct steal from Department S's Is Vic There Tony Phyll@... wrote: Has anyone else heard what seemed to be a Teardrop Explodes outtake on the radio only to discover it's the new Kaiser Chiefs single! It's hard to think it's not a deliberate pastiche, each bit of the song seems to be a different Copey cliche, however - i can't for the life of me put my finger on which specific TE/JC tunes this track is robbed from - any ideas? From stuart@... Mon Nov 26 21:07:27 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart Mchugh) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:07:27 +0000 Subject: [peel] One for the moderators? In-Reply-To: <1196066150.412.67398.m46@yahoogroups.com> References: <1196066150.412.67398.m46@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <0D0D002A-2964-4210-84B1-B8FD6458C38A@...> > > Just nosying around the aite and find that 'Teenage Kicks 3000' has no > related Peel tapes - it's a site parked for making money when you > click on the links. > Superfluous eh? fair enough, but did someone actually plug that site here? First I've seen it, though I've not had much time to keep up with much of the groups goings-on (as you've probably already spotted!) S From deedeeramain@... Mon Nov 26 21:19:36 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:19:36 -0000 Subject: 790829 Peel Programme 29th August 1979 with Session by The Undertones Message-ID: Evening all! As promised, the first of Kevin Beech's Peel shows now posted on 'YouSendIt' for those who don't torrent. Here's the link: Link: http://download.yousendit.com/F78A89A62A50A98D This show is the '790829 Peel Programme 29th August 1979 with Session by The Undertones' wrapped up in a WinRAR (rah) archive file. (I'm still downloading the other). Thanks again Kevin! Dee Dee From lists@... Mon Nov 26 21:29:29 2007 From: lists@... (Rob Brewer) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:29:29 +0000 Subject: [peel] One for the moderators? In-Reply-To: <0D0D002A-2964-4210-84B1-B8FD6458C38A@...> References: <1196066150.412.67398.m46@yahoogroups.com> <0D0D002A-2964-4210-84B1-B8FD6458C38A@...> Message-ID: On Nov 26, 2007 8:07 PM, Stuart Mchugh wrote: > fair enough, but did someone actually plug that site here? First I've > seen it, though I've not had much time to keep up with much of the > groups goings-on (as you've probably already spotted!) It's in the "links" section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/links Either it was added as spam or it was added while it was a viable site then the domain registration was allowed to lapse and it was squatted. Either way it should probably be removed by a moderator. Rob -- Rob Brewer rob@... http://www.rbrwr.org "The [central limit theorem] would have been personified by the Greeks and deified, if they had known of it." -- Francis Galton From roger.carruthers@... Mon Nov 26 22:27:41 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:27:41 +0000 Subject: [OT'ish] Blimey! Message-ID: Just in case there are any other Mac users out there in the swarm, I just updated my bittorrent client, Transmission, to version v. 0.94 and it's dramatically improved my download rate. I feel such an arse for ignoring all those 'new version available' prompts for the last couple of weeks! In an entirely different vein, I went to see the Weddo's at The Point in Cardiff last night, and there were, as you might expect, truly wonderful. I took with me my trusty R-09 and Soundman OKM's, and will be posting the results soon. There is, unfortunately some distortion, as I was too busy grinning stupidly to notice the levels were a bit high, but it's still quite listenable, and too good not to share, Cheers Roger From rockerq@... Mon Nov 26 23:41:49 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:41:49 EST Subject: [peel] [OT'ish] Blimey! Message-ID: > < Cardiff last night, and there were, as you might expect, truly wonderful. > I took with me my trusty R-09 and Soundman OKM's, and will be posting the > results soon. There is, unfortunately some distortion, as I was too busy > grinning stupidly to notice the levels were a bit high, but it's still quite > listenable, and too good not to share, > Cheers > Roger>> > Hi Roger - I was also at the gig last nite - as you say top gig! I was the fat bloke in the Peel tshirt handing out Dandelion Radio flyers. Look forward to hearing it! I recorded the Birmingham gig last month from the mixing desk & the first half of the show (from "Blonde" to "My favourite dress" ie half way through "George Best") is in my Dandelion Radio show for December - go to www.dandelionradio.com from Dec 1st - there's a schedules page so you can find out when my show is on - it comes round in the loop at least once a day for the entire month. I am also featuring new LPs by The Undertones and MJ Hibbett. The second half of the Wedding Present set will be in my January show. BTW just another reminder to you all to go to www.dandelionradio.com and vote in the festive 50 if you haven't already done so! The more of "us" that vote, the less Kaiser Chiefs records will be in the chart! (To me they've always been poor XTC copyists) ONLY 4 DAYS LEFT TO VOTE!!! The Festive 50 show will be shoe-horned into our schedules from Dec 25th and run til the end of Jan. I also use a Mac - will try out this Transmission software as I have not so far managed to get into this torrents thing! Named by a JD fan I wonder!? Cheers! Rocker From eddie.duffy@... Tue Nov 27 01:30:58 2007 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:30:58 +0000 Subject: [peel] One for the moderators? In-Reply-To: References: <1196066150.412.67398.m46@yahoogroups.com> <0D0D002A-2964-4210-84B1-B8FD6458C38A@...> Message-ID: <474B6542.6010107@...> > > It's in the "links" section: > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/links > > > Either it was added as spam or it was added while it was a viable site > then the domain registration was allowed to lapse and it was squatted. > Either way it should probably be removed by a moderator. > > > . Teenage Kicks 3000 was a very good Peel site which the propriater shut down for personal reasons a couple of years ago. But as Rob says, the squatters have obviously moved in now. From dekoder1982@... Tue Nov 27 11:52:56 2007 From: dekoder1982@... (dekoder1982) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:52:56 -0000 Subject: new shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Kev I just want to thank you for the files Best Jan --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > rah files > > shhhhhhhh!!! > > sent from work as my broadband is down > > > shhhhhhhhhhhhh > > > http://download.yousendit.com/5BAEFC7804661B44 > > http://download.yousendit.com/031033F4615CE300 > > shows from 1978 > > > must go!!!! > > kev.. > From mar.celle@... Tue Nov 27 12:23:42 2007 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:23:42 +0100 Subject: Today and this week on Another Nice Mess Message-ID: <000a01c830e7$fc121040$9600000a@PC154981710422> Hi there, today (live) and this week (listen again) on Another Nice Mess: Special: Hey-O-Hansen: live Plus, new amazing records and cd’s by amongst others: Ramadanman, Cultural Amnesia, Múm, Teknambul, Breakin Stevens, Numbers, King Soly, The Legendary Pink Dots, Esplendor Geometrico, Experimental Dental School, Venetian Snares, Scout Niblett, Kania Tieffer, Lonesome Jonesome, Ceramic Hobs, Intelligence, Zomby, To Tococo Rot, Stankey Kubi, Cazzurillo, Cousin Lou, Frightened Rabbit, Hilary Jeffery, plus lots of AMAZING new music from China Requests/oldies: Sand, Scritti Politti, Flipper, Suns Of Arqa with Prince Far-I, Imminent There is room for more REQUESTS/oldies. For REQUESTS mail Marcelle at: info@anothernicemess.com She broadcasts from home, so she might play your requested song (almost) instantly! ANOTHER NICE MESS ‘’Indispensable listening’’ ‘’If you’re missing Peel, allow this to feed you’’ ‘’Marcelle could have been a great teacher in a class of (Mick Patrick, Scotland) (Sarah Nelson, England) ‘curiousity’!’’ (Peter-Max Jacobsen, Denmark) DFM Radio, 27th November 2007 Hostess: Marcelle van Hoof LISTEN LIVE online: www.dfm.nu every Tuesday between 19-22 hours CET (Dutch time) / 18-21 hours GMT (UK time) LISTEN AT ANY OTHER TIME via www.anothernicemess.com WEBSITE: www.anothernicemess.com (For PLAYLISTS, LISTENING AGAIN, DOWNLOADING PREVIOUS SHOWS, REVIEWS, INFORMATION, CONTACT ADDRESS and more) MYSPACE: www.myspace.com/djanothernicemess [You are receiving this Another Nice Mess message because you either subscribed to the mailing list and/or we have something in common - Good Underground Music! If you no longer want to hear from Another Nice Mess then please reply with the words 'Unsubscribe' in the subject box]. From eddie.duffy@... Tue Nov 27 12:46:51 2007 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:46:51 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: new shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474C03AB.2080203@...> Yes, I'd like to second that. These recent uploads have been great stuff, Kev! Also, leaving the beginning and ending pips in has proved to be a very good move, as it makes an accurate calculation of how much the recording needs slowing down/speeding up very easy. (Because obviously we know that the pips should be exactly two hours apart.) Eddie. dekoder1982 wrote: > > Hey Kev > I just want to thank you for the files > Best > Jan > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , > "kevin_beech" wrote: > > > > rah files > > > > shhhhhhhh!!! > > > > sent from work as my broadband is down > > > > > > shhhhhhhhhhhhh > > > > > > http://download.yousendit.com/5BAEFC7804661B44 > > > > > http://download.yousendit.com/031033F4615CE300 > > > > > shows from 1978 > > > > > > must go!!!! > > > > kev.. > > > > From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 27 14:03:19 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:03:19 -0000 Subject: Kev Beech's Second torrent Message-ID: Sorry guys! I'm having a bit of trouble uploading the second of Kevin's torrents ('810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & Positive Noise') to 'YouSendIt'. It's probably a little too large for my piddly connection to handle and maybe it's best to leave it as a torrent. I'll try again when I get chance but the upload takes so long at present that my connection times out. (I'll continue to seed the file also as a torrent) Cheers, Dee Dee From iangwilson@... Tue Nov 27 14:19:20 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:19:20 +0000 Subject: [peel] Kev Beech's Second torrent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b3563a0711270519y208e5d92jeac8d642bad86b5a@...> From grafpoo@... Tue Nov 27 14:59:54 2007 From: grafpoo@... (grafpoo@...) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:59:54 +0000 Subject: [peel] Kev Beech's Second torrent Message-ID: <112720071359.26634.474C22DA00032B350000680A220073474801019F000E9D09@...> i'd be grateful for this too. dunno if there are easier ways, but: lame -h -b 320 bigfile.wav will convert to 320-bit mp3 grafpoo -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Ian Wilson" > Could you convert it to an MP3 and do it? The rar files are rather large for > yousendit. > > On 27/11/2007, deedeeramain wrote: > > > > Sorry guys! > > > > I'm having a bit of trouble uploading the second of Kevin's torrents > > ('810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & > > Positive Noise') to 'YouSendIt'. > > > > It's probably a little too large for my piddly connection to handle > > and maybe it's best to leave it as a torrent. > > > > I'll try again when I get chance but the upload takes so long at > > present that my connection times out. > > > > (I'll continue to seed the file also as a torrent) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dee Dee > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Ian Wilson" Subject: Re: [peel] Kev Beech's Second torrent Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:19:23 +0000 Size: 1752 URL: From todsy94@... Tue Nov 27 16:35:14 2007 From: todsy94@... (arclight2525) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:35:14 -0000 Subject: My Peel tapes Message-ID: I've spent the last month converting my old John Peel tapes to MP3/CD (the best I can, I've used the Audacity programme, which is good as you can slow down any old recordings that have speeded up over time. I don't know if I have anything that's not already out there, but if I do I would be happy to share it with you and the Peel fans websites. I don't have any full show (the nearest to that is 90 minutes of the Black Keys at Peel Acres in 2003). I started listening to the great man's show around about 1981 after it was recommended to me by my older punk/student sister (and never stopped listening, I was tuned in to his last ever show) From the mid 1980's I used to tape his shows all the time. This was because I knew I'd hear groups and tracks on there that I'd possibly never hear again, so left his voice on the ones I saved so I knew who they were. Alas I taped over most of them with another show when I bought the records, not everything though. I've now 11, 80-minute compilation CD's with tracks/sessions from the mid 1980's onwards with Peels voice on. The earliest and possibly the most important recording I have is the 1st Jesus and Mary Chain session (Never Understand, You Trip Me Up, In A Hole and Taste The Floor) from 1984, with Peelie's voice introducing and commenting on the tracks `I suspect you're going to hear more from these people.' I loved the JAMC since the day John Peel played debut single Upside Down (hence being paused over the pause button when they were in session) and it's because of him that I saw them live twice before Psychocandy came out. They only played for about 25 mins, William Reid had his back to the crowd and a certain Bobby Gillespie was banging away on one base drum. 3 years on from his passing and I still miss John Peel a great deal (it's only this year that I've been able to bring myself to listen to the radio between 10 pm and 12.00 again) It's great that people are unearthing their tape recordings and making them available to everyone. Best wishes Tony Hill From mar.celle@... Tue Nov 27 17:29:15 2007 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:29:15 +0100 Subject: Retrieving deleted recording Message-ID: <016301c83112$a99a1940$9600000a@PC154981710422> Hi all, as there are a lot of computer wizards on this group I forward this question: Last Friday I played with the Berlin based MC Quio. Was great, me spinning records and she rapping.. Unfortunately the recordings didn't go that well. My recording (on minidisk) only started 40 minutes into the show. A promoter of the night recorded it on his computer, but as he saw my minidiskapparatus deleted his recording because his hard disk was nearly full.. A great shame.. But I've heard of people being able to retrieve deleted items on computers .. Does it take special software??? I realise it's another nice mess I've gotten myself into :-) ! Anyone who can get the recording back gets a recording of a Dutch Peel radio show from the mid eighties :-) !!! Love Marcelle xx www.anothernicemess.com From robfleay@... Tue Nov 27 17:40:21 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:40:21 +0000 Subject: [peel] Retrieving deleted recording Message-ID: <20071127164021.XWYL17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > But I've heard of people being able to > retrieve deleted items on computers .. Does it take > special software??? When you delete a file the first thing the operating system does is remove the entry in the file table that identifies where the file is - a bit like ripping out the contents page of a book. The file itself is still there, but there is no way to locate it. You can retrieve it with special software like you say - but the problem is that when you write new files it will eventually overwrite the physical sectors of the disk where the lost file resides. If your disk is neary full then the chances of the deleted file being overwritten are much higher as there will be fewer free sectors to write new data to. Usually the specialist software costs money but there are some trial or free versions out there http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/collection/collid,1482-order,1/files.html ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From thebarguest@... Tue Nov 27 19:10:49 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:10:49 -0000 Subject: Retrieving deleted recording In-Reply-To: <016301c83112$a99a1940$9600000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: Hi M. Sorry if this is "obvious" but ........ have you tried the "Recycle Bin" (one of those symbols/shortcuts on the screen (desktop) ? If you're quick and lucky you can right- click the file and 'restore'. Good luck. tbg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Marcelle" wrote: > > Hi all, as there are a lot of computer wizards on this group I forward > this question: > Last Friday I played with the Berlin based MC Quio. Was great, me > spinning records and she rapping.. Unfortunately the recordings didn't > go that well. My recording (on minidisk) only started 40 minutes into > the show. A promoter of the night recorded it on his computer, but as he > saw my minidiskapparatus deleted his recording because his hard disk was > nearly full.. A great shame.. But I've heard of people being able to > retrieve deleted items on computers .. Does it take special software??? > > I realise it's another nice mess I've gotten myself into :-) ! > > Anyone who can get the recording back gets a recording of a Dutch Peel > radio show from the mid eighties :-) !!! > > > Love Marcelle xx > www.anothernicemess.com > From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 27 19:46:41 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:46:41 -0000 Subject: Retrieving deleted recording In-Reply-To: <016301c83112$a99a1940$9600000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: Hello Marcelle! I use a program called "GetDataBack" to retrieve deleted items that are no longer in the recycle bin. There are different versions depending on whether your disk is partitioned using Fat32 or NTFS (presuming you are using a Windows computer!) As mentioned earlier though, if your friend continues to use his machine there is a good chance that the file will be overwritten (for example when you load 'GetDataBack' on to your computer!). The ideal situation is: Buy an empty enclosure (box) for a USB pocket drive. Remove the hard drive with the file from the computer and plug this into the empty pocket drive enclosure. On a different PC, install 'GetDataBack', plug in the pocket drive and start 'GetDataBack'. Follow the instructions to investigate the pocket drive and fingers crossed; restore your file! DO NOT restore the file to the pocket drive! You might overwrite the file you are trying to save! (You can buy 'GetDataBack' and download from the 'net - a very useful tool. An empty enclosure should cost less than 30 euros). Good luck! Dee Dee From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 27 19:53:01 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:53:01 -0000 Subject: Kevin's 2nd Peel show Message-ID: Guys! Your wish is my command! I converted the '810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B- Movies & Positive Noise' to a .mp3 @ 320 bits for you. Still needs slowing down with Audacity but it's ready for download from 'YouSendIt'. Here's the link: http://download.yousendit.com/7099002B3183CFA8 It's good for 2 weeks but I think I'll run out of credit before then. The first file reduced my 40GB download credit by about 50% (38 downloads so far). My credit stands at 38% of 40GB left so if you want a quick copy - get in there! Once the credit runs out then we're back to Torrenting! Cheers! Dee Dee From keith@... Tue Nov 27 20:03:16 2007 From: keith@... (keithtopping1) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:03:16 -0000 Subject: b-movies and positive noise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Aw, you absoulte BEAUTY - I love you. You have NO idea how long I've been looking for a copy of this Positive Noise session (well, you know, since it was last repeated, basically, which was March 1982!) The only known recording of '1917' in existence. I could kiss a lamp post! Thank you, thank you, thank you. xxx --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "kevin_beech" wrote: > > mininova again > > look for > 810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & Positive > Noise wav > From iangwilson@... Tue Nov 27 20:07:21 2007 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:07:21 +0000 Subject: [peel] Kevin's 2nd Peel show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b3563a0711271107x47e8ed48l6960a38e44a4ef58@...> From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 27 23:12:55 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:12:55 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 14 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! A heads up on the next torrent compilation! The previous torrent (13 of 17) had 14 completed seeds so let's move on! Find the latest torrent as usual at 'Mininova' or 'The Pirate Bay'. Keep sharing the older files for a while if you're able! Cheers! Dee Dee From thebarguest@... Tue Nov 27 23:31:45 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:31:45 -0000 Subject: transferring tapes Message-ID: Hi Music Clovers ! In terms of transferring old cassette tapes of FM broadcasts to mp3 format - what is the best format - 128 kbps, 192 kbps, 320 kbps or vbr (variable bit rate) ? Thanks in advance. stryker From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 28 00:52:50 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:52:50 -0000 Subject: transferring tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Stryker! I'm not sure about VBR (I'll have to 'Google' it after dashing off these lines) - I try and reduce the file by as little as possible so 320 - 500kbps for me! .mp3 is a lossy form of encoding. Theoretically, there are some frequencies that your ear can't hear and if we remove these we can shrink the file without much noticeable difference in audio quality. The smaller the number the more frequencies are disposed of and the smaller your file. However, if you compress the file down below 128kbps then the quality reduction is noticeable. Bigger is best for me! Size does matter! Anybody else have a different preference? Dee Dee From wewalkforonereason@... Wed Nov 28 01:05:56 2007 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:05:56 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: transferring tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27/11/2007, deedeeramain wrote: > Hi Stryker! > > I'm not sure about VBR (I'll have to 'Google' it after dashing off > these lines) - I try and reduce the file by as little as possible so > 320 - 500kbps for me! > > .mp3 is a lossy form of encoding. Theoretically, there are some > frequencies that your ear can't hear and if we remove these we can > shrink the file without much noticeable difference in audio quality. > The smaller the number the more frequencies are disposed of and the > smaller your file. However, if you compress the file down below > 128kbps then the quality reduction is noticeable. > > Bigger is best for me! Size does matter! > > Anybody else have a different preference? Yes - lossless. Flac. No point in creating 500kbps mp3s; flac should reduce to around about that size anyway. Alasdair From domesticempire@... Wed Nov 28 01:18:10 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Gary) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:18:10 -0000 Subject: transferring tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > Hi Music Clovers ! > > In terms of transferring old cassette tapes of FM broadcasts to mp3 > format - > what is the best format - 128 kbps, 192 kbps, 320 kbps or > vbr (variable bit rate) ? > > Thanks in advance. > stryker > Always encode at highest possible rate and always use VBR. MP3 is a lossy format of course so as such is always going to be a compromise, however a Variable Bit Rate of 320 should please all but the most pedantry audiophiles. I imagine even people with slow connection speeds appreciate the slightly larger file sizes given the boost in audio quality. I'm planning to convert some MiniDiscs to mp3 but not before first ripping them to wav which will give me an exact audio copy as a very useful backup (one can never have too many of those), and for torrenting in flac or probably ape, after which I shall make an mp3 version for those who prefer mp3 and wish to dl from the web. It all depends on how much time you have or wish to put into these things really. Have you decided which software you'll be using? "Creating quality audio-files using Windows, L.A.M.E., Ogg Vorbis" Here's a good link I've had on file for ages. Good in depth easily understood sensible info: http://jthz.com/mp3/ Regards Gary Walsh torrents: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com blog: http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 27 20:00:26 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:00:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] My Peel tapes Message-ID: <462098.19219.qm@...> Hello Tony! Nice introduction! I think that if I say on behalf of the Peel Group that we'd all be thrilled to grab a copy of what-you-got that we'd all be in agreement! I imagine that we all share a similar experience of taping cassettes and then re-recording over the top of them. I know that in a warehouse somewhere where all my gear is currently stashed I have a box of fragmentary Peel tapes! I loved the early JAMC too - Never Understand was great! What a shame they got back together. I can't see the point of middle-aged people banging out tunes they wrote when they were 17. It's no longer music but cabaret! Cheers, DeeDee ----- Original Message ---- From: arclight2525 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:35:14 PM Subject: [peel] My Peel tapes I've spent the last month converting my old John Peel tapes to MP3/CD (the best I can, I've used the Audacity programme, which is good as you can slow down any old recordings that have speeded up over time. I don't know if I have anything that's not already out there, but if I do I would be happy to share it with you and the Peel fans websites. I don't have any full show (the nearest to that is 90 minutes of the Black Keys at Peel Acres in 2003). I started listening to the great man's show around about 1981 after it was recommended to me by my older punk/student sister (and never stopped listening, I was tuned in to his last ever show) From the mid 1980's I used to tape his shows all the time. This was because I knew I'd hear groups and tracks on there that I'd possibly never hear again, so left his voice on the ones I saved so I knew who they were. Alas I taped over most of them with another show when I bought the records, not everything though. I've now 11, 80-minute compilation CD's with tracks/sessions from the mid 1980's onwards with Peels voice on. The earliest and possibly the most important recording I have is the 1st Jesus and Mary Chain session (Never Understand, You Trip Me Up, In A Hole and Taste The Floor) from 1984, with Peelie's voice introducing and commenting on the tracks `I suspect you're going to hear more from these people.' I loved the JAMC since the day John Peel played debut single Upside Down (hence being paused over the pause button when they were in session) and it's because of him that I saw them live twice before Psychocandy came out. They only played for about 25 mins, William Reid had his back to the crowd and a certain Bobby Gillespie was banging away on one base drum. 3 years on from his passing and I still miss John Peel a great deal (it's only this year that I've been able to bring myself to listen to the radio between 10 pm and 12.00 again) It's great that people are unearthing their tape recordings and making them available to everyone. Best wishes Tony Hill ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From deedeeramain@... Tue Nov 27 23:41:17 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (Riving Ton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:41:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] transferring tapes Message-ID: <982529.83700.qm@...> Hi Stryker! I'm not sure about VBR (I'll have to 'Google' it after dashing off these lines) - I try and reduce the file by as little as possible so 320 - 500kbps for me! ..mp3 is a lossy form of encoding. Theoretically, there are some frequencies that your ear can't hear and if we remove these we can shrink the file without much noticeable difference in audio quality. The smaller the number the more frequencies are disposed of and the smaller your file. However, if you compress the file down below 128kbps then the quality reduction is noticeable. Bigger is best for me! Size does matter! Anybody else have a different preference? Dee Dee ----- Original Message ---- From: thebarguest To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:31:45 PM Subject: [peel] transferring tapes Hi Music Clovers ! In terms of transferring old cassette tapes of FM broadcasts to mp3 format - what is the best format - 128 kbps, 192 kbps, 320 kbps or vbr (variable bit rate) ? Thanks in advance. stryker ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From tomb242@... Wed Nov 28 11:44:18 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:44:18 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: transferring tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474D4682.1000701@...> Surely 384 k/bits (free form Lame) is the highest bitrate for mp3. Never heard of 500 k/bits for mp3! Personally I would encode to FLAC (a lossless format) then transcode those to mp3 (Lame v0?) for file sharing and keep the FLAC files for yourself instead of the tapes. Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > Yes - lossless. Flac. No point in creating 500kbps mp3s; flac should > reduce to around about that size anyway. > > Alasdair > > From tomb242@... Wed Nov 28 11:46:38 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:46:38 +0000 Subject: [peel] My Peel tapes In-Reply-To: <462098.19219.qm@...> References: <462098.19219.qm@...> Message-ID: <474D470E.8020302@...> I saw JAMC the other month for the first time in 16 years and they were great. You are not going to buy the new single then? :-) Or go to the MBV gigs? Riving Ton wrote: > > Hello Tony! > > > > Nice introduction! I think that if I say on behalf of the Peel Group > that we'd all be thrilled to grab a copy of what-you-got that we'd all > be in agreement! > > I imagine that we all share a similar experience of taping cassettes > and then re-recording over the top of them. I know that in a warehouse > somewhere where all my gear is currently stashed I have a box of > fragmentary Peel tapes! > > I loved the early JAMC too - Never Understand was great! What a shame > they got back together. I can't see the point of middle-aged people > banging out tunes they wrote when they were 17. It's no longer music > but cabaret! > > > > Cheers, > > > > DeeDee > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: arclight2525 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:35:14 PM > Subject: [peel] My Peel tapes > > I've spent the last month converting my old John Peel tapes to MP3/CD > (the best I can, I've used the Audacity programme, which is good as > you can slow down any old recordings that have speeded up over time. > > I don't know if I have anything that's not already out there, but if > I do I would be happy to share it with you and the Peel fans > websites. I don't have any full show (the nearest to that is 90 > minutes of the Black Keys at Peel Acres in 2003). > > I started listening to the great man's show around about 1981 after > it was recommended to me by my older punk/student sister (and never > stopped listening, I was tuned in to his last ever show) From the mid > 1980's I used to tape his shows all the time. This was because I knew > I'd hear groups and tracks on there that I'd possibly never hear > again, so left his voice on the ones I saved so I knew who they were. > Alas I taped over most of them with another show when I bought the > records, not everything though. I've now 11, 80-minute compilation > CD's with tracks/sessions from the mid 1980's onwards with Peels > voice on. > > The earliest and possibly the most important recording I have is the > 1st Jesus and Mary Chain session (Never Understand, You Trip Me Up, > In A Hole and Taste The Floor) from 1984, with Peelie's voice > introducing and commenting on the tracks `I suspect you're going to > hear more from these people.' > > I loved the JAMC since the day John Peel played debut single Upside > Down (hence being paused over the pause button when they were in > session) and it's because of him that I saw them live twice before > Psychocandy came out. They only played for about 25 mins, William > Reid had his back to the crowd and a certain Bobby Gillespie was > banging away on one base drum. > > 3 years on from his passing and I still miss John Peel a great deal > (it's only this year that I've been able to bring myself to listen to > the radio between 10 pm and 12.00 again) It's great that people are > unearthing their tape recordings and making them available to > everyone. > > Best wishes > Tony Hill > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See > how. > From jimmystep@... Wed Nov 28 12:03:36 2007 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:03:36 -0000 Subject: transferring tapes In-Reply-To: <474D4682.1000701@...> Message-ID: My vote would be for FLAC as well. Use it all the time in trading circles. There is a great wee program called traders little helper that you can get here http://tlh.easytree.org/ dead easy to use. Flac level 6 is a good compression/speed option. Cheers.....Jimmy --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bartlett wrote: > > Personally I would encode to FLAC (a > lossless format) then transcode those to mp3 (Lame v0?) for file sharing > and keep the FLAC files for yourself instead of the tapes. > > > Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > > > Yes - lossless. Flac. No point in creating 500kbps mp3s; flac should > > reduce to around about that size anyway. > > > > Alasdair > > > > > From dr_mango2004@... Wed Nov 28 13:14:45 2007 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:14:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] transferring tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44155.26899.qm@...> It comes down a trade-off between sound quality and file size. I'm happy with 128k (sounds fine of my mp3 player) as a 2 hour show downloads in much less time than some of these 320 kbs monsters ;o) thebarguest wrote: Hi Music Clovers ! In terms of transferring old cassette tapes of FM broadcasts to mp3 format - what is the best format - 128 kbps, 192 kbps, 320 kbps or vbr (variable bit rate) ? Thanks in advance. stryker --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. From roger.carruthers@... Wed Nov 28 14:49:12 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:49:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] transferring tapes In-Reply-To: <44155.26899.qm@...> Message-ID: <354104.289.qm@...> My 2p: it is, of course, largely a matter of preference ie. whatever sounds good to you. You tend to get an awful lot of opinions when you open this particular can of worms! At 128k, I can definitely hear unpleasant artefacts added by the encoding process - high frequency sounds eg. cymbals & hi-hats, sound 'smeared' and there is a general loss of clarity. Having said that, 192k is OK for material that started off life on a cassette, as the starting bandwidth is limited anyway. For 'quality' recordings - reel-to-reel or DAT - it's worth the effort (imo) to go up to 320k VBR or use a lossless format. Many trading sites still insist on using lossless compression (.shn, .flac etc.), which is nice if you can spare the bandwidth, but not so clever if you're on a slow connection. For my ears, you get better bangs per buck using Ogg Vorbis compression, than you do from .mp3 but inevitably you have to bow to market pressures, and most people want .mp3, because it's more widely supported.. Whatever rate you chose, it's definitely a good idea to use some form of compression if you intend sharing the files, especially if the original recording quality was less than spiffy; uploading uncompressed .wavs of cassette recordings doesn't really make a great deal of sense (even though we love you for sharing anyway :-) cheers Roger From todsy94@... Wed Nov 28 15:42:48 2007 From: todsy94@... (arclight2525) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:42:48 -0000 Subject: My Peel tapes In-Reply-To: <474D470E.8020302@...> Message-ID: Ahh the big debate as to whether once young and cool as f**k bands should get back together to tour in middle-age and up? I'm not sure on this myself. I felt the Sex Pistols should never have reformed, but I still went to see them the other week and had a great time, even though it was sort of like music hall for the 21st century, sing- a-long a Sex Pistols. Maybe the BBC could bring back `The Good Old Days' and have it set in the 1970's? The Jesus and Mary Chain were one of the coolest indie bands ever (and made probably one of the best debut albums with Psychocandy), but having caught them live so early on in their career I don't want to go see them now and spoil my teenage memories. I'd say it's ok for bands to tour as long as they're able (for example I put on a punk concert earlier this year with the UK Subs headlining. Charlie Harper is in his 60's now but they were great), just think bands should stop recording any new material after the age of about 40 or earlier? I was going to say 35, but look at Radiohead all in their late 30's but In Rainbows is far better than most of the albums by younger indie bands this year. Tony --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bartlett wrote: > > I saw JAMC the other month for the first time in 16 years and they were > great. You are not going to buy the new single then? :-) > Or go to the MBV gigs? > > Riving Ton wrote: > > > > Hello Tony! > > > > > > > > Nice introduction! I think that if I say on behalf of the Peel Group > > that we'd all be thrilled to grab a copy of what-you-got that we'd all > > be in agreement! > > > > I imagine that we all share a similar experience of taping cassettes > > and then re-recording over the top of them. I know that in a warehouse > > somewhere where all my gear is currently stashed I have a box of > > fragmentary Peel tapes! > > > > I loved the early JAMC too - Never Understand was great! What a shame > > they got back together. I can't see the point of middle-aged people > > banging out tunes they wrote when they were 17. It's no longer music > > but cabaret! > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > DeeDee > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: arclight2525 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:35:14 PM > > Subject: [peel] My Peel tapes > > > > I've spent the last month converting my old John Peel tapes to MP3/CD > > (the best I can, I've used the Audacity programme, which is good as > > you can slow down any old recordings that have speeded up over time. > > > > I don't know if I have anything that's not already out there, but if > > I do I would be happy to share it with you and the Peel fans > > websites. I don't have any full show (the nearest to that is 90 > > minutes of the Black Keys at Peel Acres in 2003). > > > > I started listening to the great man's show around about 1981 after > > it was recommended to me by my older punk/student sister (and never > > stopped listening, I was tuned in to his last ever show) From the mid > > 1980's I used to tape his shows all the time. This was because I knew > > I'd hear groups and tracks on there that I'd possibly never hear > > again, so left his voice on the ones I saved so I knew who they were. > > Alas I taped over most of them with another show when I bought the > > records, not everything though. I've now 11, 80-minute compilation > > CD's with tracks/sessions from the mid 1980's onwards with Peels > > voice on. > > > > The earliest and possibly the most important recording I have is the > > 1st Jesus and Mary Chain session (Never Understand, You Trip Me Up, > > In A Hole and Taste The Floor) from 1984, with Peelie's voice > > introducing and commenting on the tracks `I suspect you're going to > > hear more from these people.' > > > > I loved the JAMC since the day John Peel played debut single Upside > > Down (hence being paused over the pause button when they were in > > session) and it's because of him that I saw them live twice before > > Psychocandy came out. They only played for about 25 mins, William > > Reid had his back to the crowd and a certain Bobby Gillespie was > > banging away on one base drum. > > > > 3 years on from his passing and I still miss John Peel a great deal > > (it's only this year that I've been able to bring myself to listen to > > the radio between 10 pm and 12.00 again) It's great that people are > > unearthing their tape recordings and making them available to > > everyone. > > > > Best wishes > > Tony Hill > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See > > how. > > > From robfleay@... Wed Nov 28 15:58:25 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:58:25 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: My Peel tapes Message-ID: <20071128145823.VKQV29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > I'd say it's ok for bands to tour as long as they're able > (for example I put on a punk concert earlier this year > with the UK Subs headlining. Reminds me - seetickets are advertising a gig next september for the Magic Band - I thought they had retired but looks like they may be treading the boards again ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 28 16:44:36 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:44:36 -0000 Subject: Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: I see the advantages of FLAC and think I need to reconsider my archiving system. I rip my CDs using Easy CD-DA and convert to Ogg Vorbis. The settings in Easy CD-DA give you the usual compression options and the best (ie most minimum compression) is labelled 320-500kbps hence the 500kbps that was confusing some of us. Ogg Vorbis (.ogg) was supposed to be similar to .mp3 but open source and slightly superior tho. I confess I could not tell the difference between two files ripped with the different codecs! Now, memory is less of a concern so I guess I need to trade up to a lossless form of compression but why FLAC? A majority of the files I see floating around with lossless compression are Monkey's Audio Compression (.ape) files. Maybe FLAC is superior but so was OGG and it (OGG) seems to be falling by the wayside a la betamax! Anybody have any convincing arguments for one or the other? Cheers! DeeDee From markbursa@... Wed Nov 28 16:51:11 2007 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:51:11 EST Subject: [peel] Re: My Peel tapes Message-ID: >>I'd say it's ok for bands to tour as long as they're able (for example I put on a punk concert earlier this year with the UK Subs headlining. Charlie Harper is in his 60's now but they were great), just think bands should stop recording any new material after the age of about 40 or earlier? I was going to say 35, but look at Radiohead all in their late 30's but In Rainbows is far better than most of the albums by younger indie bands this year.<< So you've just destroyed your own daft argument! ;-) Why should "rock" music be any different from any other art form? Take jazz, or blues, or classical music - age confers wisdom on the players; they get better as they get older. The same applies to photography, or painting, or just about any other art form you choose. Age is no barrrier - many of the leading figures continue to produce exceptional work until they die. In your world we'd be stuck with "quality" work by 20somethings like the Kooks, Razorlight and the Pigeon Detectives, none of whom should be allowed within a mile of a recording studio! Age is not a factor in any art. For every duff old cabaret punk band you could name I could show you a contemporary that's still vital - Wire, for example, still making exceptional music in their 50s and 60s. They're the same people, just a little older. And there are generations of gig-goers who never saw them first time round. I've seen stunning 21st century gigs from Wire, The Gang of Four, Television, the Nightingales, The Magic Band, Section 25, Biting Tongues, ACR, Richard H Kirk, Pixies, The Only Ones. Mission of Burma and many others. Wire and the Nightingales have produced new albums that stand up to anything they produced in their "heyday". The fact that the Go4 were older seemed to add to their potency live too - every bit as impressive as in 1981. And now working on new stuff too. Not to mention bands like The Fall and The Cure who never went away and are still stunning live bands. Some ofthe Fall's 21st century output ranks as their best. But Mark E Smith is 10 years past your compulsory retirement date, of course... I rest my case! Mark From markbursa@... Wed Nov 28 16:55:34 2007 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:55:34 EST Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: >>Maybe FLAC is superior but so was OGG and it (OGG) seems to be falling by the wayside a la betamax!<< A perfect analogy. Ogg is preferable to MP3, but incompatible with a lot of players etc, and will surely wither away. >>Anybody have any convincing arguments for one or the other?<< Flac is not an audio format like MP3 or OGG. It's more like ZIP or RAR - a way of temporarily compressing files so they're easier to send. Once you un-Flac them they turn back into WAV files - which is the best you can get. So please use Flac ahead of Ogg , MP3 or any other compressed format, which permanently remove information from the files, so degrading the quality. The alternative to Flac is Shn, which is similar but less widely used and not as effective in reducing file size. Cheers Mark From wewalkforonereason@... Wed Nov 28 16:58:16 2007 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:58:16 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28/11/2007, markbursa@... wrote: > >>Maybe FLAC is superior but so was OGG and it (OGG) seems to be > falling by the wayside a la betamax!<< > > A perfect analogy. > > Ogg is preferable to MP3, but incompatible with a lot of players etc, and will surely wither away. > > > >>Anybody have any convincing arguments for one or the other?<< > > > > Flac is not an audio format like MP3 or OGG. It's more like ZIP or RAR - a way of temporarily compressing files so they're easier to send. Once you un-Flac them they turn back into WAV files - which is the best you can get. > > So please use Flac ahead of Ogg , MP3 or any other compressed format, which permanently remove information from the files, so degrading the quality. > > The alternative to Flac is Shn, which is similar but less widely used and not as effective in reducing file size. ogg and flac are open source, and available on different operating systems. ape is not. Alasdair From markbursa@... Wed Nov 28 17:00:37 2007 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:00:37 EST Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: >>ogg and flac are open source, and available on different operating systems. ape is not.<< What is .ape? Mark From tomb242@... Wed Nov 28 17:05:17 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:05:17 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474D91BD.2040205@...> To be honest it doesn't matter which lossless format you choose all the files should be identical when you decode back to wave. I prefer FLAC because my rockboxed i-river and choice of audio player on the PC regarding of operating system supports it. It now seems to be the format of choice for sites offering downloads in a lossless format. I have heard good things about Wave pack, TTA, TAK etc and all seem to be chosen on depending speed and size. This site may help. http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison Tom deedeeramain wrote: > > I see the advantages of FLAC and think I need to reconsider my > archiving system. > > I rip my CDs using Easy CD-DA and convert to Ogg Vorbis. The > settings in Easy CD-DA give you the usual compression options and > the best (ie most minimum compression) is labelled 320-500kbps hence > the 500kbps that was confusing some of us. > > Ogg Vorbis (.ogg) was supposed to be similar to .mp3 but open source > and slightly superior tho. I confess I could not tell the difference > between two files ripped with the different codecs! > > Now, memory is less of a concern so I guess I need to trade up to a > lossless form of compression but why FLAC? A majority of the files I > see floating around with lossless compression are Monkey's Audio > Compression (.ape) files. > > Maybe FLAC is superior but so was OGG and it (OGG) seems to be > falling by the wayside a la betamax! > > Anybody have any convincing arguments for one or the other? > > Cheers! > > DeeDee > > From tomb242@... Wed Nov 28 17:10:53 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:53 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474D930D.10803@...> >Flac is not an audio format like MP3 or OGG. It's more like ZIP or RAR - a way of temporarily compressing files so they're easier to send.< Erm you are a bit wrong wrong on that one! FLAC is an audio format. Free Lossless Audio Codec is it's full name for starters. I suggest you have a look here for a beginners guide. http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Free_Lossless_Audio_Codec You can play FLAC back in most players including i-tunes and Windows media player if you download the right filters. I use Foobar 2000 on XP. Tom markbursa@... wrote: > > > > >>Maybe FLAC is superior but so was OGG and it (OGG) seems to be > falling by the wayside a la betamax!<< > > A perfect analogy. > > Ogg is preferable to MP3, but incompatible with a lot of players > etc, and will surely wither away. > > > >>Anybody have any convincing arguments for one or the other?<< > > > > Once you un-Flac them they turn back into WAV files - which is > the best you can get. > > So please use Flac ahead of Ogg , MP3 or any other compressed > format, which permanently remove information from the files, so > degrading the quality. > > The alternative to Flac is Shn, which is similar but less widely > used and not as effective in reducing file size. > > Cheers > > Mark > > > > From tomb242@... Wed Nov 28 17:12:24 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:12:24 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474D9368.8080200@...> Monkeys Audio http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Monkey%27s_Audio Tom markbursa@... wrote: > > > > >>ogg and flac are open source, and available on different operating > systems. ape is not.<< > > > What is .ape? > > Mark > > > From markbursa@... Wed Nov 28 17:36:51 2007 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:36:51 EST Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: >>Erm you are a bit wrong wrong on that one! FLAC is an audio format. Free Lossless Audio Codec is it's full name for starters.<< OK, perhaps I dodn't express myself clearly enough. It is reversible - you can convert a Flac back to a WAV without loss. You cannot do that with MP3 or (presumably, as I've never tried) Ogg. >> I suggest you have a look here for a beginners guide.<< Shall I sit in the corner with the dunce's cap on while doing so? I'm sure you don't mean to be patronising, but.... ;-) >>You can play FLAC back in most players including i-tunes and Windows media player if you download the right filters. I use Foobar 2000 on XP.<< Why bother? Just convert it back to WAV, so it plays in anything, or can be burned to disc so it can be played on a decent hifi rather than tinny PC speakers. Mark From tomb242@... Wed Nov 28 17:58:40 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:58:40 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474D9E40.2000603@...> Well your original e-mail wasn't clear as you have acknowledged. I guess that if I found it unclear people new to FLAC would have as well. Sorry you found it patronizing but refer to above. As the message is for all users of the group the guide will be relevant for those newer to the format and who have asked about it! Why should I convert to wav which doesn't support tagging, takes up twice the space of a lossless format, can easily be stored on hard drive instead of burning to countless CDRs etc etc etc. And as for sound - well if one uses tinny speakers on their PC they get what they deserve. :) markbursa@... wrote: > > > > >>Erm you are a bit wrong wrong on that one! FLAC is an audio > format. Free > Lossless Audio Codec is it's full name for starters.<< > > > OK, perhaps I dodn't express myself clearly enough. It is > reversible - you can convert a Flac back to a WAV without loss. > You cannot do that with MP3 or (presumably, as I've never tried) Ogg. > > > >> I suggest you have > a look here for a beginners guide.<< > > > Shall I sit in the corner with the dunce's cap on while doing so? I'm > sure you don't mean to be patronising, but.... > > ;-) > > > >>You can play FLAC back in most players including i-tunes and Windows > media player if you download the right filters. I use Foobar 2000 on XP.<< > > > Why bother? Just convert it back to WAV, so it plays in anything, or > can be burned to disc so it can be played on a decent hifi rather than > tinny PC speakers. > > Mark > From robfleay@... Wed Nov 28 18:22:11 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:22:11 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: <20071128172223.EXPJ26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> I posted a couple of things on a private Torrent site a while back in 192 mp3 format and someone (I imagine he might refer to himself as an audiophile..) emailed me insisting that I should only post in FLAC format with a nice patronising justification. I wrote back and told him that I couldn't understand what he was saying as his self-righteousness levels were causing distortion and increased anality in his lower frequencies was ruining my enjoyment of his email. I have heard badly encoded mp3s where you can really notice the difference, but jeez - 99% of 192 mp3s that I listen too sound perfectly fine to my ears. Some of these people are verging on the OCD about it. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From markbursa@... Wed Nov 28 18:11:50 2007 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:11:50 EST Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: >>Why should I convert to wav which doesn't support tagging, takes up twice the space of a lossless format, can easily be stored on hard drive instead of burning to countless CDRs etc etc etc.<< For the reasons stated - the ability to listen to the music on decent hi-fi. I usually delete the converted WAVs after I've burned them, keeping the FLACs. If I ever need to do it again, it's a pretty quick process. >>And as for sound - well if one uses tinny speakers on their PC they get what they deserve. :)<< My computer's a work tool. I spend all day working on it. Standard PC speakers are fine for auditioning stuff or editing sound waves etc, but if I'm going to listen to music I'd rather do it in more comfortable surroundings than my office! Of course there'll come a time (pretty soon probably) when we all have 100 Terrabyte HDs attached to our Hi-fis, networked to our download machine's 10 terrabyte ultra-broadband - but until then, WAV files burned to CDRs are just fine.... Like watching movies on your telephone, the concept of your desktop PC being your main music-playing device just seems pointless! Mark From deedeeramain@... Wed Nov 28 19:39:53 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:39:53 -0000 Subject: FLAC it is then! Message-ID: Pretty good discussion I generated heh heh! I also had a quick snout around the 'net and found that Monkey's Audio wasn't quite as stable as FLAC. The remarks re. Hi-Fi's / speakers etc were interesting. I got fed up with the tinny PC speakers and stumped up for some Bose Media Mates for my laptop - wow! They're great! A little bit deeper than yer average PC speakers but a BIG improvement in quality. Nice bass too! Not so expensive - just over a ton I think. Put 'em on your Christmas/Eid/Diwalhi list! I use my PC for loads - I watch and record TV shows, play music, compile cookery books etc etc. Sometimes it gets used for work as well! My PC is a decent stereo also. I haven't set it up yet but I just bought an Evesham PC for taking to Saudi with surround sound - it looks like it's going to be a pretty good stereo! And what's a CD player but a mini computer! I can't see the point in having a separate hi-fi any longer! Unless you're a complete purist but if that's the case surely live music is better! Didn't we love vinyl for the pops and scratches, the run in grooves and the drop of the needle? Cheers! DeeDee From mar.celle@... Wed Nov 28 20:28:05 2007 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:28:05 +0100 Subject: Retrieving deleted recording Message-ID: <02c901c831f4$ce9ff5b0$9600000a@PC154981710422> Dear Barguest, Rob and Dee Dee, Thanks for your kind advice and tips! Unfortunately the recording was never saved in the 1st place, so I reckon the recordings are lost forever. A great shame, as I persuaded Quio to rap along to The Fall's Touch Sensitive dance mix :-) ! (on the listen again stream of this week's show you can hear her rapping along to DJ Swift, Dub Syndicate and Digital Mystikz though :-)) Love Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com From alan@... Wed Nov 28 21:02:58 2007 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:58 -0000 Subject: OT: Broadband suppliers References: Message-ID: <006801c831f9$af829ed0$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Hi All, Now that we've sorted out compression formats, can anyone recommend a good Broadband supplier? Mine (Newnet) has just cut my monthly allowance, kept the monthly fee the same, and upped the cost of exceeding the allowance. Also, what kind of monthly download figures are y'all using? When I first changed to broadband, I was advised that 3Gb / month would be sufficient !! I soon had to switch to a 25Gb package, but now we're regularly reaching 30Gb. Our bill this month is likely to be �32 Cheers Alan From ramsay.dj@... Wed Nov 28 21:41:20 2007 From: ramsay.dj@... (Davie Ramsay) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:41:20 +0000 Subject: [peel] OT: Broadband suppliers In-Reply-To: <006801c831f9$af829ed0$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> References: <006801c831f9$af829ed0$0201a8c0@fordyidkviebja> Message-ID: <474DD270.8060803@...> I am on PlusNet Broadband Your Way Option 3 (Monthly Contract) 8gig connection speed �19.99 per month for 20 gig prime time and unlimited between 12.00-08.00. If you exceed your limit you get cut to 128kps or pay �1per gig. Cheers Davie > Hi All, > Now that we've sorted out compression formats, can anyone recommend a > good > Broadband supplier? > Mine (Newnet) has just cut my monthly allowance, kept the monthly fee the > same, and upped the cost of exceeding the allowance. > > Also, what kind of monthly download figures are y'all using? > > When I first changed to broadband, I was advised that 3Gb / month > would be > sufficient !! > I soon had to switch to a 25Gb package, but now we're regularly reaching > 30Gb. > Our bill this month is likely to be �32 > > Cheers > > Alan > > From roger.carruthers@... Wed Nov 28 21:17:24 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:17:24 +0000 Subject: [peel] FLAC it is then! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fwiw, there is also Apple¹s Lossless encoder that ships with QuickTime/iTunes, and which definitely can be played Œon the fly¹, ie. you don¹t have to decompress it first, but can play it as it is... But I repeat my earlier point, if your source is not a good one eg. a good FM source onto R2R, DAT or possibly MD*, then you¹ve not much to lose by using a decent quality lossy encoder (.mp3, .ogg etc.) with which you will get a much better file size reduction. Cheers Roger *if we¹re really into splitting hairs, MD uses ATRAC compression, which is lossy, so although it sounds pretty good, it¹s already lost something, even if you make a digital copy... > > > > > > . > > From martinw@... Wed Nov 28 22:58:59 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:58:59 +0000 Subject: [peel] Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >Of course there'll come a time (pretty soon probably) when we all >have 100 Terrabyte HDs attached to our Hi-fis, networked to our >download machine's 10 terrabyte ultra-broadband - but until then, >WAV files burned to CDRs are just fine.... > >Like watching movies on your telephone, the concept of your desktop >PC being your main music-playing device just seems pointless! > >Mark It doesn't have to be either a PC or the Hi-Fi - it can be both I have my computer connected to the Hi-Fi so anything I play on the computer can go through the Hi-Fi and anything from whatever source coming through the amp can go into the computer and be recorded. martinw From jt.gray@... Wed Nov 28 23:19:09 2007 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:19:09 +0000 Subject: Vinyl it is then! Message-ID: <37FA426A-CEFF-46D3-8A10-C03D691C56E4@...> Whatwhatwhatwhat? "Didn't we love vinyl for the pops and scratches, the run in grooves and the drop of the needle?" Surely - "DON'T we........etc."!! On the subject of PCs versus hi-fi setups - I have a record deck and cassette deck connected to my computer (a Mac). And I recently bought a wind-up gramophone to play 78s. No technological nonsense there - not even a volume control, you choose between 'loud' needles and 'soft' needles. Reminds me, BTW, of Peelies response to criticism of vinyl as having surface noise by remarking that " so what, life has surface noise" John Gray From domesticempire@... Thu Nov 29 01:47:42 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Gary) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:47:42 -0000 Subject: Lossy and Lossless Audio compression Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > >Of course there'll come a time (pretty soon probably) when we all > >have 100 Terrabyte HDs attached to our Hi-fis, networked to our > >download machine's 10 terrabyte ultra-broadband - but until then, > >WAV files burned to CDRs are just fine.... > > > >Like watching movies on your telephone, the concept of your desktop > >PC being your main music-playing device just seems pointless! > > > >Mark > > It doesn't have to be either a PC or the Hi-Fi - it can be both > I have my computer connected to the Hi-Fi so > anything I play on the computer can go through the > Hi-Fi and anything from whatever source coming through > the amp can go into the computer and be recorded. > > martinw > Martin's dead right. In fact I have mine set up the same way. There seems to me there exists an unwritten social imperative whereby lines must be drawn and choices have to be made. Have both - no one's looking. Even with relatively good sounding speakers on a computer can't compete with a dedicated amp and matched speakers. Even a budget hi-fi separates system from the likes of richer sounds would give a bigger, fuller and truer sound. Let me put it this way: It's the difference between wearing a rubber and going in bareback. It's all about getting closer. Oh yes! From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 29 02:05:11 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:05:11 -0000 Subject: Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ho Ho Ho! Gary....A totally inappropriate remark but I totally agree! I would rather not have penetrative sex if I was required to wear a condom - much better to extend that foreplay than put on wellington boots! Oh my god (little 'g' coz there's no such thing!) - don't listen to us kids - we're coffin dodgers so we don't count! Please don't report us to the Terrence Higgins Trust! Ciao! DeeDee From tomb242@... Thu Nov 29 08:59:00 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:59:00 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Lossy and Lossless Audio compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474E7144.4030301@...> >I have my computer connected to the Hi-Fi so anything I play on the computer can go through the Hi-Fi and anything from whatever source coming through the amp can go into the computer and be recorded.< for a PC based system.If you don't want to hook up your PC to your existing hi-fi you can always invest in one of these: http://www.russandrews.com/product-RAVE-1-USB-amplifier-4604.htm Tom From thebarguest@... Thu Nov 29 12:58:44 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:58:44 -0000 Subject: FLAC it is then! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, the point about the source is crucial. I think I read somewhere that radio FM was/is broadcast at a frequency range equivalent to about 128kbps (or was it 192); obviously therefore, encoding at rates higher than this is simply a waste of space .... Also, I heard recently that the soon-to-be-compulsory digital broadcasts are of a lower audio quality than existing FM - anyone for anti-progress / devolution ? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > Fwiw, there is also Apple¹s Lossless encoder that ships with > QuickTime/iTunes, and which definitely can be played Œon the fly¹, ie. you > don¹t have to decompress it first, but can play it as it is... > But I repeat my earlier point, if your source is not a good one eg. a good > FM source onto R2R, DAT or possibly MD*, then you¹ve not much to lose by > using a decent quality lossy encoder (.mp3, .ogg etc.) with which you will > get a much better file size reduction. > Cheers > Roger > > *if we¹re really into splitting hairs, MD uses ATRAC compression, which is > lossy, so although it sounds pretty good, it¹s already lost something, even > if you make a digital copy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > From wewalkforonereason@... Thu Nov 29 13:25:29 2007 From: wewalkforonereason@... (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:25:29 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: FLAC it is then! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FM radio has a carrier signal at 19kHz and certainly has it's own limitations. But those limitations don't exactly correspond to the limitations and artifacts of mp3 encoding. And even if you have a lower quality source, this is not an argument for transferring such material to low-quality media or format. Do record companies sell 1930's blues records on the cheapest quality cassettes, because the source material is on noisey, degraded vinyl, and it doesn't really matter, or do they sell such material on CD and ensure that the product is as close to the original sound as possible? You could say that low-quality source material demands a *higher* quality copying process. DAB, Freeview and Satellite broadcast bitrates can vary, even for the same broadcaster / channel. But to take one example, that of BBC 6 Music, which is not available via any non-digital source, this is broadcast at a bitrate of 160kbps via Freeview, 160kbps via Sky Satellite, and I don't know the online bitrate. Freeview and Satellite broadcasts are usually mp2 by the way, not sure about DAB. The exception is some Dolby Digital broadcasts (5.1), which I am only aware of on Sky film channels and some BBC HD programming. 5.1 is 385kbps and this is of course the same quality as you'd typically get on a commercial DVD with 5.1 sound. Let's take another example - XFM radio. This *is* available via FM, although I am told that it is a low quality / compressed (in dynamic range) signal. The bitrate for their Sky Satellite broadcasts is 128kbps, and I rather suspect that they have a poor quality encoder, because it sounds really rather poor. TV audio bitrates vary too. BBC channels at 256k (although the red button stuff is 128k via Satellite, 192 via Freeview IIRC). ITV channels have lower audio bitrates, 192 IIRC, and lower video bitrates too. And anyone that has ever tuned in to Euronews will know how awful their audio can be. The fact of the matter is that many people can distinguish mp3 sources from uncompressed digital sources even up to quite high bitrates. Personally, I am aware that my hearing has degraded in particular over the past couple of years as a consequence of an ear infection and tinnitus. But I can still hear artifacts in all commercial broadcasts below 256kbps. From the comments that have been posted to this list, it's evident that a number of people here have hearing that is just as degraded, and worse. But it's really rather important, when circulating audio material to others, to consider *their* hearing abilities, and not your own. ogg is (technically) better than mp3, the reason that mp3 is popular is because it got in there first, and hardware players were created to use this new standard. Subsequent models and generations of players have kept the name and technical specs, although many mp3 players will play ogg. Certainly both of mine do. Alasdair On 29/11/2007, thebarguest wrote: > Yes, the point about the source is crucial. I think I read > somewhere that radio FM was/is broadcast at a frequency range > equivalent to about 128kbps (or was it 192); obviously therefore, > encoding at rates higher than this is simply a waste of space .... > Also, I heard recently that the soon-to-be-compulsory digital > broadcasts are of a lower audio quality than existing FM - anyone > for anti-progress / devolution ? > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers > wrote: > > > > Fwiw, there is also Apple¹s Lossless encoder that ships with > > QuickTime/iTunes, and which definitely can be played Œon the fly¹, > ie. you > > don¹t have to decompress it first, but can play it as it is... > > But I repeat my earlier point, if your source is not a good one > eg. a good > > FM source onto R2R, DAT or possibly MD*, then you¹ve not much to > lose by > > using a decent quality lossy encoder (.mp3, .ogg etc.) with which > you will > > get a much better file size reduction. > > Cheers > > Roger > > > > *if we¹re really into splitting hairs, MD uses ATRAC compression, > which is > > lossy, so although it sounds pretty good, it¹s already lost > something, even > > if you make a digital copy... From deedeeramain@... Thu Nov 29 14:14:39 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:14:39 -0000 Subject: John Peel Torrent Compilation 15 of 17 now seeding! Message-ID: Hello Chaps! Time for the penultimate mega Peel torrent! Last I looked we had 19 seeds completed for '14 of 17' so let's crack on! As usual; you can initiate the latest torrent from 'Mininova' or 'The Pirate Bay'! And also as usual! An exhortation to keep sharing the last file for as long as you can to allow those aficionados with slower connections to complete their torrents also! Toodle pip! Dee Dee From robfleay@... Thu Nov 29 15:01:55 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:01:55 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: FLAC it is then! Message-ID: <20071129140147.DVBW17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > But it's really rather important, when > circulating audio material to others, to consider *their* > hearing abilities, and not your own. Hmm...you sound like a life insurance salesman!! ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From kevin_beech@... Thu Nov 29 21:19:30 2007 From: kevin_beech@... (kevin_beech) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:19:30 -0000 Subject: OT: Broadband suppliers In-Reply-To: <474DD270.8060803@...> Message-ID: avoid orange. after service very very poor. still have fault on b/b after reporting fault nov 6th!! kev gn peel@yahoogroups.com, Davie Ramsay wrote: > > I am on PlusNet Broadband Your Way Option 3 (Monthly Contract) > 8gig connection speed £19.99 per month for 20 gig prime time and > unlimited between 12.00-08.00. > If you exceed your limit you get cut to 128kps or pay £1per gig. > > > Cheers > > Davie > > > > > Hi All, > > Now that we've sorted out compression formats, can anyone recommend a > > good > > Broadband supplier? > > Mine (Newnet) has just cut my monthly allowance, kept the monthly fee the > > same, and upped the cost of exceeding the allowance. > > > > Also, what kind of monthly download figures are y'all using? > > > > When I first changed to broadband, I was advised that 3Gb / month > > would be > > sufficient !! > > I soon had to switch to a 25Gb package, but now we're regularly reaching > > 30Gb. > > Our bill this month is likely to be £32 > > > > Cheers > > > > Alan > > > > > From deedeeramain@... Fri Nov 30 01:26:53 2007 From: deedeeramain@... (deedeeramain) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:26:53 -0000 Subject: John Peel Man of Bronze Message-ID: I've long considered that a permanent memorial to an important part of our cultural heritage should commemorate John Peel. The current campaign to immortalise Tony Wilson in Manchester leads the way in showing that we need (and want!) contemporary heroes and figure- heads to help define us (the lumpen proletariat!). These guys demonstrated that the working class needn't be defined by the Sun/Star/Mirror and that we had our own artistic idols. I'd like to start another thread within the Peel group regarding a permanent statue to Peel. Whaddya think?! The empty plinth in Trafalgar Square is perhaps a little grandiose (and I'm sure he would be mortifyed by embarrassment if that were suggested were he still alive!) and a bust at his beloved Anfield would perhaps be a little remote for non-footy fans so what do the Peel Group think? We have enough staues commemorating the robber barons of the past and this guy stimulated / encouraged generations - surely that suggests a permanent tribute. What substance and where, how big and how depicted? All contributions welcome! DeeDee From willowct@... Fri Nov 30 10:56:47 2007 From: willowct@... (Willow) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:56:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: John Peel Man of Bronze Message-ID: <464748.88594.qm@...> I think the idea of a statue of john is an excellent idea. Liverpool perhaps. Or near his birthplace in Wirral. Does anyone know where Johns childhood home is? I've probably driven passed it before. I know its in or near Heswall on the Wirral but don't know where exactly. cheers --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. From thebarguest@... Fri Nov 30 11:16:11 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:16:11 -0000 Subject: John Peel Man of Bronze In-Reply-To: <464748.88594.qm@...> Message-ID: I think its near or in a village called Burton (south Wirral) - the richest part of the country outside of Kensington (London). I think theres a pub in Heswall named in honour of JP. Theres a statue of Lennon in Liverpool airport but Peely would be way down the list for a new statue, if it was up to the "people". I think the best you can hope for is a bust down some BBC corridor ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Willow wrote: > > I think the idea of a statue of john is an excellent idea. > Liverpool perhaps. Or near his birthplace in Wirral. > > Does anyone know where Johns childhood home is? I've probably driven passed it before. > I know its in or near Heswall on the Wirral but don't know where exactly. > > cheers > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > From robfleay@... Fri Nov 30 11:50:31 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re:John Peel Man of Bronze Message-ID: <20071130105049.IJPU219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > I think the best you can hope for is a bust down some BBC > corridor ! There is a rather lovely large framed photo of John outside maida vale 4... ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From spiggytopes55@... Fri Nov 30 12:04:07 2007 From: spiggytopes55@... (Julian Porter) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:04:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Fabric07 Track 1 Message-ID: <812928.55787.qm@...> We all know and love Fabric07, a great collection of tracks, but does anyone know that the track listing is incorrect? I have a friend who happens to be a lecturer for a BSC Music Production course. He sends me various bits to do with music, mostly obscure stuff, and he recently sent me a track by the Japanese band Asa Chang & Junray called "Hana". When I played it I thought, I know that track. Sure enough it is track one on Fabric07 (minus the vocal but plus the football commentary), although this track is credited to the Scottish Folk Punk outfit Sons and Daughters as "Medecine". Both tracks are on iTunes and clearly it isn't Sons and Daughters. Wonder who made that mistake? Cheers, Julian ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From rockerq@... Fri Nov 30 15:35:04 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:35:04 EST Subject: [peel] Re: FLAC it is then! Message-ID: > < equivalent to about 128kbps (or was it 192); obviously therefore, > encoding at rates higher than this is simply a waste of space ....>> > Not so! The data lost during FM transmission / reception has already gone when it was recorded to whatever medium - When you then encode it to digital, if you use a lossy compression method like mp3 you are losing a "bit" more of that valuable data. OK you may argue that you cannot hear the difference - but look at the ever falling cost of discspace - to me it makes sense to use wav or flac or aiff - at least for your archive copy - it does make sense to shrink the files if they take too long to download - but someone has made the point that in a few years we'll have much faster transmission protocols via the internet or "Net2" or whatever. Cheers! Rocker From todsy94@... Fri Nov 30 17:46:23 2007 From: todsy94@... (arclight2525) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:46:23 -0000 Subject: b-movies and positive noise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great to see the Peel show with B-Movie in session made available. I got in touch with their lead singer – Steve Hovington – last year whilst researching my new book. It's about a local music venue where B- Movie made one of their first appearances (they're a local band from Mansfield about 7 miles from here) in 1980. I'll contact him with a link for the download, bet he hasn't got a copy of it either. Tony > look for > 810407 Peel Programme 7th April 1981 Sessions from B-Movies & Positive > Noise wav From festive50@... Fri Nov 30 22:57:46 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:57:46 -0000 Subject: [peel] Fabric07 Track 1 In-Reply-To: <812928.55787.qm@...> Message-ID: One of my favourite FF tracks of all time. A truly beautiful track. While on the subject. Dandelion Radio's Festive 50 poll closes at midnight tonight. So why not pop over to www.dandelionradio.com and place your vote now. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Julian Porter Sent: 30 November 2007 11:04 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Fabric07 Track 1 We all know and love Fabric07, a great collection of tracks, but does anyone know that the track listing is incorrect? I have a friend who happens to be a lecturer for a BSC Music Production course. He sends me various bits to do with music, mostly obscure stuff, and he recently sent me a track by the Japanese band Asa Chang & Junray called "Hana". When I played it I thought, I know that track. Sure enough it is track one on Fabric07 (minus the vocal but plus the football commentary), although this track is credited to the Scottish Folk Punk outfit Sons and Daughters as "Medecine". Both tracks are on iTunes and clearly it isn't Sons and Daughters. Wonder who made that mistake? Cheers, Julian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. From rockerq@... Fri Nov 30 23:10:25 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:10:25 EST Subject: [peel] Fabric07 Track 1 Message-ID: > <> > Yeah - No. 17 in 2002 - I have "Hana" on a 12" on Leaf records - in fact I played it out last Saturday at my monthly residency at "Sunny Inside" in Stoke! Cheers! Rocker PS er... what he said - only 2 hours til the close of Festive 50 voting at www.dandelionradio.com and RIP Evel Knievel