From jeremy_lubin@... Thu Mar 1 03:31:09 2007 From: jeremy_lubin@... (jeremy_lubin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:31:09 -0000 Subject: Wild Man Fischer documentary premieres on Sundance Channel, Monday March 5, 9pm! Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Due to overwhelming demand, Ubin Twinz Productions is proud to announce the cable premiere of Derailroaded: Inside the Mind of Larry "Wild Man" Fischer on The Sundance Channel this upcoming Monday, March 5th at 9pm! Please spread the word by forwarding this message to all your friends! Be sure to check www.sundancechannel.com for future airings, and if you would like to request future airings, please send an email to feedback@sundancechannel.com. Also, as a reminder, the region-free DVD (yes, it will work on ALL DVD players) is available for purchase here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/B000EOTSZU/ref=s9_asin_image_1/026-6774423-8564406 Thanks so much for all your support! Best, Jeremy Lubin and Josh Rubin www.derailroaded.com "As discomfortingly fascinating as listening to a couple's heated argument at a table near yours in a restaurant" Joe Leydon, VARIETY "A happy or unhappy ending, depending on how you look at it." Stephen Holden, NEW YORK TIMES "The Wild Man cometh! 3/4 STARS" V.A. Musetto, NY POST "Fascinating!" Bilge Ebiri, NEW YORK MAGAZINE "Equal parts hilarity and heartbreak... the fine line between madness and genius has rarely been so acutely drawn. 5/5 STARS" David Sheppard, MOJO MAGAZINE "Stunning document of an outsider's life unraveling. 5/5 STARS" Rob Young, UNCUT MAGAZINE "Derailroaded is a funhouse mirror of a movie that brilliantly reflects the warped, fractured chapters of Fischer's unique life story. It's also one of the best documentaries of recent years, joining Crumb and Monster Road as an unusually intimate look at how we use art to channel our darkest, most disturbing human tendencies. 4.5/5 STARS" KJ Doughton, FILM THREAT "Even if you've never heard of Larry "Wild Man" Fischer, Josh Rubin's disquieting tribute to the paranoid-schizophrenic performer many turn you into a bonafide fan. Derailroaded is a fascinating glimpse at how art can grow from psychic torment." Damon Smith, TIME OUT NEW YORK "This sensitive, informed and ultimately melancholic bio-doc sums it up very eloquently indeed" 4/5 STARS TIME OUT LONDON "Josh Rubin's fascinating documentary dissects the life of Larry "Wild Man" Fischer, juggling the question: lunatic or musical genius?" Eli Kooris, AUSTIN CHRONICLE "While some scenes are undeniably funny, the film is a sensitive and haunting portrait of a man who can't cope with the rigors of show business, yet repeatedly throws himself into its trenches." Ronit Feldman, DETROIT METRO TIMES "A hilarious/tragic/bizarre/unforgettable documentary!" Matt Silvie, SEATTLEST "Fascinating." Eric Harrison, HOUSTON CHRONICLE "Filmmakers Josh Rubin and Jeremy Lubin present a humorous and tragic portrait of Fischer who continues to battle his demons even today" Tim Basham, MOVIEHOLE.NET "Derailroaded proves haunting and suggestively epic" Tom Keogh, SEATTLE TIMES "Strangely fascinating, a devastating portrait of delusion and fathomless despair." Nate Lippens, SEATTLE'S THE STRANGER "Riveting" Jason Anderson, THE GLOBE AND MAIL "Like the man himself, Derailroaded is heartbreaking, funny and fascinating at the same time."- Laura Marrich, NEW MEXICO'S THE ALIBI "Heartbreaking, but often terribly funny." Robert Butler, KANSAS CITY STAR "For sheer jaw-dropping pleasure, the kind derived from re-learning that truth is stranger than fiction, Derailroaded is unbeatable!" David Pellfrey, BLACK AND WHITE "Demons and genius make strange bedfellows. And we're complicit in the relationship." Chris Vognar, DALLAS MORNING NEWS "Edgier than Crumb and Monster Road" Dale Short, BIRMINGHAM WEEKLY "Incredible Story" Zac Pennington, PORTLAND WEEKLY From dekoder1982@... Thu Mar 1 10:31:10 2007 From: dekoder1982@... (dekoder1982) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:31:10 -0000 Subject: Peelis radioshow with all the new indie artists plus more Message-ID: Hello I want to introduce to a radio producer from OK Bremen, who is really good and have the spirit of John Peel. The show is in English, which fits good to this group, and it is a really BIG show. The stream of the last show you can hear: http://www.popscenewithjalal.de If you also interessting in new innovative electronic music (House, Minimal,Electro mixed with rare 80s and everything), you can listen to my show from OK Bremen, if you want as podcast: http://www.janrose.de Thanks for Phil for the server. : ) Bye Jan From michstoecker@... Sat Mar 3 21:52:20 2007 From: michstoecker@... (michael stoecker) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:52:20 +0000 Subject: anyone make a copy of the Dandy Radio F50? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi everyone, Did anyone make an mp3 copy of the Festive 50 this year that Dandelion Radio did? It was great, but I only was able to listen to about half of it plus its always nice to keep em as a little time capsule. Hope someone has it. Thanks, Michael Stoecker _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you�ll love. Compare products and save at MSN� Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 From domesticempire@... Sun Mar 4 17:06:52 2007 From: domesticempire@... (Domestic Empire) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:06:52 +0000 Subject: [peel] anyone make a copy of the Dandy Radio F50? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have the complete 5 hour countdown either as one file or split into several at the point where each dj hands over to the next. I forget the file sizes off-hand. The reason I haven't uploaded it - in fact I haven't uploaded much lately but that's another story for later - is that I didn't want to interfere with Dandelion Radio's broadcast at the time by providing an alternative source thereby effectively bypassing the station altogether and as no, one to my knowledge, had requested it - until now, I'd just 'filed it away' on disc. Theorectically having a recording in circulation may indeed help to promote next year's Festive Fifty and Dandelion Radio period. As an enthusiastic supporter of the 'Dandy' I wouldn't want to piss anyone off so unless there are any strong objections I could easily torrent it. Gary Walsh johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com On 03/03/07, michael stoecker wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Did anyone make an mp3 copy of the Festive 50 this year that Dandelion Radio > did? It was great, but I only was able to listen to about half of it plus > its always nice to keep em as a little time capsule. > > Hope someone has it. > > Thanks, > > Michael Stoecker > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find what you need at prices you'll love. Compare products and save at MSN(r) > Shopping. > http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- From ken_garner@... Sun Mar 4 19:45:23 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:45:23 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the thoughts. Here are mine: 1. Yes, 29/8/77 was the second punk special (the first had been on Friday 10/12/76 with The Damned's debut session). I don't know we can fit in entire running orders in the book, but here's what I have in the draft of the book's day-by-day index, a very long entry by the standards of what we're proposing (simply to squeeze it all in the book we've decided to restrict most individual show entries to a maximum of two lines of our 3 column design, or about 14 words!): M 29/8 Squeeze (Cortinas, Generation X, XTC); 2nd punk special: records by Sex Pistols, Vibrators, Stranglers, Clash, Models, Desperate Bicycles, Buzzcocks, Adverts, Users, Nosebleeds, Jam, The Table, Chelsea, Slaughter and the dogs, Boys, Rezillos... Sounds a nifty show, eh?, though I shan't pretend I remember it myself (unlike the first): Squeeze's debut session, plus repeats of the recent first sessions from The Cortinas, Generation X and XTC, plus all those records. The key thing here is the word 'special'. Most shows then, even up to the end of 77, mixed 'straight' bands in session, with punk. 2. I fear this one, the, shall we call it 'Fictitious Fifty' of 1977, shall run and run. Unless fellow listers can help me nail it down for once and for all, that is... OK, you're right, he played his favourite records of the year, and 13 of these have been known for some time. What is in doubt is both the status of those 13 and whether there were others. Once again, I don't remember this week of shows at all (although I do have clear memories of both 76 and 78, bizarrely), so, before I dig out those PasBs from my archive, can I ask anyone who does remember anything at all about Christmas/New Year 77 shows to answer the following questions: Did Peel present those top 13 as a rundown, leading to a number 1? Or just as some of his favourites? Did he say in other shows that week that he was playing his favourite records of the year? So were there other favourites, beyond the 'top' 13, on other nights, and were they presented as a countdown? And if that was the case, even if you can't remember any of the records, does anyone remember a number he started at? I ask all that because the PasBs never include what the presenter says. They are just a list of musical items in sequence. Without the context, you could read all kinds of things into them that simply aren't true. I look forward to seeing if anyone can help me know what to look for... 3. That's a great idea! I must admit I've never seen the original in its entirety, but I have on tape an amusing interview with Walters all about the making of it. I'll forward that suggestion to Alison Howe (see earlier post) who was also responsible for the Peel Night on BBC2 and the Peel tributes on BBC4 and BBC2 since his death. I'm sure she'll be pitching/planning something for Peel Day to the network controllers... KG --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > Hi, Ken. The new book sounds great, I'm sure I'm not the only one > who's really looking forward to it. Just one or two suggestions . . . > > 1. The 29/08/77 show was a punk special wherein Peel played his > favourite punk records of the year to date. If the PasB sheet is > available to you, it would be nice to see the full running order, as > it represents an informative snap shot of where the show was at that > time. > > 2. In December 1977 Peel broadcast what I think was the only Festive > Fifty to be selected by himself personally rather than by his > listeners. The top 13 is on the Rock List website and has been > reproduced in a couple of biographies published since his death. > Again, if the PasB sheets are available, perhaps you could work > backwards from the top 13 to give us the 1977 Festive Fifty in full > for the first time! > > 3. To help publicise your book – and to celebrate Peel Day '07 – BBC4 > could rebroadcast the Arena special "TODAY CARSHALTON > BEECHES...TOMORROW CROYDON" from 1980/81. It would provide the > perfect televisual accompaniment to your book – perhaps you could > persuade your contacts at the Beeb! > > Anyway, good luck in all your endeavours. > From lollygagger@... Sun Mar 4 16:22:49 2007 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger@...) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 15:22:49 -0000 Subject: [peel] anyone make a copy of the Dandy Radio F50? References: Message-ID: <025501c75e92$59365e80$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Yeh I did! I recorded the 16hr looped dandilion recording for the month of Jan 2007. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael stoecker" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: [peel] anyone make a copy of the Dandy Radio F50? > Hi everyone, > > Did anyone make an mp3 copy of the Festive 50 this year that Dandelion > Radio > did? It was great, but I only was able to listen to about half of it plus > its always nice to keep em as a little time capsule. > > Hope someone has it. > > Thanks, > > Michael Stoecker > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find what you need at prices you'll love. Compare products and save at > MSN� > Shopping. > http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From dunelm@... Sun Mar 4 21:30:44 2007 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:30:44 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book Message-ID: Hello again, Ken. Point taken about the 29/08/07 show. I realise you don't have the luxury of being able to devote much space to any one show. As regards the 1977 Festive Fifty, I may be able to point you in the right direction. First of all, there definitely was a Festive Fifty broadcast that year. Stories that Peel was overburdened with work so didn't broadcast one, or that he only broadcast a top 13, are myths. The only oddity was that Peel chose the records himself – there was no listeners' vote. This is hardly surprising. He had spent most of 1977 alienating his old audience, but hadn't got rid of them completely. He probably feared that a listeners' chart would be full of the type of music he no longer played (I won't bother to name names!), so he put together a chart based on his own favourite records for the year. But he did definitely refer to it as the Festive Fifty. It's nearly thirty years ago, so my recollection of the chart is a little unsure. There were one or two surprises in there, eg Dave Edmunds' I Knew The Bride. Bowie's Heroes was almost certainly in there, plus maybe tracks from Pink Floyd (Animals) and Be-Bop Deluxe (Live In The Air Age). Otherwise the chart would have read like a selection of the best of early punk. My guess is that if you find a few shows broadcast towards the end of December 1977, the first part of each show comprising repeated sessions and the second part of each show comprising what is evidently a best of the records of the year, then you can have a fair stab at reconstructing the chart. Best of luck! From john.bravin@... Sun Mar 4 23:07:09 2007 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:07:09 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45EB430D.4010601@...> Lurking in the background, reading this interesting thread, motivated me to listen to my Peel tapes from 1977. One thing is clear, in 1977 Peel devoted a week (and may be more) to a series of programmes with playlists selected by listeners to represent the "best of the last ten years of these programmes". I seem to recall these were played in the run-up to Christmas as a alternative to the boringly predictable Festive Fifty from 1976, but I might be wrong. Among others, I have the selections of Barry Wright (aka Rudolf Vaselino) whose choice include Elvis Costello, Junior Delgado, Matching Mole, Rod Stewart and Hendrix (back to back versions of Angel), Steven Cook of Salisbury with Captain Beefheart, Ivor Cutler, Ranking Trevor and Sex Pistols and a snippet of the intro to the programme by Neville Thorner. I have Peel saying these were all broadcast in one week (obviously in the second half of the year as it includes God Save the Queen). These listeners must be have been picked by Peel and Walters as a results of a competition,and in one sense they come closer to capturing the essence of the programmes than any of the Festive Fifty's - many of the tracks were not well known, but are nevertheless deserving of replaying (for example House on the Hill by Kevin Coyne). One track was included in two playlists - Truly by Ranking Trevor. If any of these budding DJs are reading this maybe they can remember more about the eventual Festive Fifty. I will listen to the other tapes and see if I have included the BBC News after the credits, a sure way of identifying the events of the day and hence the date. Probably sometime after October which was when he started Top Gear in 1969. John dunelm61 wrote: > > Hello again, Ken. > > As regards the 1977 Festive Fifty, I may be able to point you in the > right direction. First of all, there definitely was a Festive Fifty > broadcast that year. Stories that Peel was overburdened with work so > didn't broadcast one, or that he only broadcast a top 13, are myths. > The only oddity was that Peel chose the records himself � there was > no listeners' vote. This is hardly surprising. He had spent most of > 1977 alienating his old audience, but hadn't got rid of them > completely. He probably feared that a listeners' chart would be full > of the type of music he no longer played (I won't bother to name > names!), so he put together a chart based on his own favourite > records for the year. But he did definitely refer to it as the > Festive Fifty. > > It's nearly thirty years ago, so my recollection of the chart is a > little unsure. There were one or two surprises in there, eg Dave > Edmunds' I Knew The Bride. Bowie's Heroes was almost certainly in > there, plus maybe tracks from Pink Floyd (Animals) and Be-Bop Deluxe > (Live In The Air Age). Otherwise the chart would have read like a > selection of the best of early punk. > > My guess is that if you find a few shows broadcast towards the end of > December 1977, the first part of each show comprising repeated > sessions and the second part of each show comprising what is > evidently a best of the records of the year, then you can have a fair > stab at reconstructing the chart. > > Best of luck! > > From ken_garner@... Mon Mar 5 00:48:00 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:48:00 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, that's terrific. Now all we need, as my old news reporting training would have it, is for two more people who listened that week to confirm that Peel said it was a Festive '50' (the number is crucial for my interpretation of the nightly scripts, as I'm sure everyone can work out) and we have the truth triangulated, and we're off. Those records you mention will surely be the clincher, though. Ain't this fun? - ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > Hello again, Ken. > > Point taken about the 29/08/07 show. I realise you don't have the > luxury of being able to devote much space to any one show. > > As regards the 1977 Festive Fifty, I may be able to point you in the > right direction. First of all, there definitely was a Festive Fifty > broadcast that year. Stories that Peel was overburdened with work so > didn't broadcast one, or that he only broadcast a top 13, are myths. > The only oddity was that Peel chose the records himself – there was > no listeners' vote. This is hardly surprising. He had spent most of > 1977 alienating his old audience, but hadn't got rid of them > completely. He probably feared that a listeners' chart would be full > of the type of music he no longer played (I won't bother to name > names!), so he put together a chart based on his own favourite > records for the year. But he did definitely refer to it as the > Festive Fifty. > > It's nearly thirty years ago, so my recollection of the chart is a > little unsure. There were one or two surprises in there, eg Dave > Edmunds' I Knew The Bride. Bowie's Heroes was almost certainly in > there, plus maybe tracks from Pink Floyd (Animals) and Be-Bop Deluxe > (Live In The Air Age). Otherwise the chart would have read like a > selection of the best of early punk. > > My guess is that if you find a few shows broadcast towards the end of > December 1977, the first part of each show comprising repeated > sessions and the second part of each show comprising what is > evidently a best of the records of the year, then you can have a fair > stab at reconstructing the chart. > > Best of luck! > From pbryant98@... Mon Mar 5 01:00:42 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:00:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Re: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <319463.82321.qm@...> --- ken_garner wrote: > > thanks, that's terrific. Now all we need, as my old > news reporting > training would have it, is for two more people who > listened that week > to confirm that Peel said it was a Festive '50' and we have the truth > triangulated Ah, I see - if three people separately misunderstand, mishear or mistake something then for a journalist it becomes a proven fact! Just kidding! pb ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From ken_garner@... Mon Mar 5 01:04:43 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:04:43 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: <319463.82321.qm@...> Message-ID: no, you are quite right! This is one of the big problems in the operational world of journalism. Just because 3 people say so don't make it right. But it does mean you can at least write something for tomorrow saying you've done your best and have views from each side k --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant wrote: > > > --- ken_garner wrote: > > > > > thanks, that's terrific. Now all we need, as my old > > news reporting > > training would have it, is for two more people who > > listened that week > > to confirm that Peel said it was a Festive '50' and > we have the truth > > triangulated > > > Ah, I see - if three people separately misunderstand, > mishear or mistake something then for a journalist it > becomes a proven fact! > > Just kidding! > > pb > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > From hubcity@... Mon Mar 5 02:13:48 2007 From: hubcity@... (Sean Carolan) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:13:48 -0500 Subject: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All, Back on The Nation's Number One, I'm honestly having a great time listening to Rob Da Bank...anyone else? (He's got Air on at the moment, and they pulled up Ghosts by Japan, and a Philip Glass track...I'm all for challenging listening, and this seems to be it...) -Sean From stuart@... Mon Mar 5 10:18:04 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:18:04 +0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: <1173084345.1446.59663.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1173084345.1446.59663.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <3790E652-E87C-48B8-8AC4-7A9CFE8A2CC2@...> I'm afraid that I can be no help in either establishing that he referred to the 77 chart as a '50' or its true makeup, though the fact that he was broadcasting listeners' favourites in tandem with his own chart rings bells. What I can recall is that he did it in rundown stylee, I can still remember my shock at The Motors appearing at 3 and then at 1 as well! (He'd dropped hints about the top of the chart so I can remember expecting 'Dancing the Night Away' being up there due to earlier comments and airplay, and 'Uptopwn Top Ranking' being a shoo-in, but 'You Beat The Hell Outtta Me' was something of a surprise!) Ah, memories. Or not. Stuart McHugh stuart@... From ken_garner@... Mon Mar 5 17:28:35 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:28:35 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: <3790E652-E87C-48B8-8AC4-7A9CFE8A2CC2@...> Message-ID: thanks, Stuart, for confirming the rundown style. Sounds plausible to me. - kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh wrote: > > I'm afraid that I can be no help in either establishing that he > referred to the 77 chart as a '50' or its true makeup, though the > fact that he was broadcasting listeners' favourites in tandem with > his own chart rings bells. > What I can recall is that he did it in rundown stylee, I can still > remember my shock at The Motors appearing at 3 and then at 1 as well! > (He'd dropped hints about the top of the chart so I can remember > expecting 'Dancing the Night Away' being up there due to earlier > comments and airplay, and 'Uptopwn Top Ranking' being a shoo-in, but > 'You Beat The Hell Outtta Me' was something of a surprise!) > > Ah, memories. Or not. > > Stuart McHugh > stuart@... > From lollygagger@... Mon Mar 5 18:02:22 2007 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger@...) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:02:22 -0000 Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... References: Message-ID: <001d01c75f48$0ae01490$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Hi I find he does the odd good show. I noticed that when he got back from his hols he repeated a number of tracts he played before he went away. In general I find that Hew Stevens and Rob play more laid back music alternative music which vary from interesting to nightmarish. They seem to be slipping into the pace of music you would expect for early morning listening. I still record each of the shows on to laptop but am having to resort to other shows for music with a bit of go in it. Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Carolan To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:13 AM Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... All, Back on The Nation's Number One, I'm honestly having a great time listening to Rob Da Bank...anyone else? (He's got Air on at the moment, and they pulled up Ghosts by Japan, and a Philip Glass track...I'm all for challenging listening, and this seems to be it...) -Sean From dunelm@... Mon Mar 5 18:57:20 2007 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:57:20 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book Message-ID: More pointers on the road to the 1977 Festive Fifty . . . 1. The source for the top 13 is Andy Smith's posting on the Rocklist website (hang your heads in shame, Messrs Wall and Heatley). Here he says "I had trouble tracking down that tape I told you about of John Peel's festive 50 from 1977. Well I have found it but it only has the top thirteen! Beter than nothing so here they are . . . Bit disappointing, I know but I thought there was another tape amongst the boxes, but there wasn't." Here, then, is someone who not only remembers there being a Festive Fifty in 1977, but actually taped it. 2. It is claimed (probably by the band themselves) that Some Chicken's New Religion held down the number 16 position in the chart. 3. A fiver says the Ramones' Pin Head, the Stranglers' London Lady (it mentions Liverpool!) and X-Ray Spex' Oh Bondage are all in there as well. From ken_garner@... Mon Mar 5 21:04:59 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:04:59 -0000 Subject: F50 of 1977 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: it's all adding up: yes, I can find in the scripts of the programmes leading up to the Motors at number 1 all those records you check, and, yes, New Religion is 16 records before Dancing the Night away. Here comes the tricky bit: do the records Capital Radio by The Clash, Jocko Homo by Devo, Stepping Razor by Peter Tosh, and Rocket in My Pocket by Little Feat (from live LP Time Loves a Hero) ring any bells with you? Or the number 61, perhaps? Green Onions by Roy Buchanan? KG --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dunelm61" wrote: > > More pointers on the road to the 1977 Festive Fifty . . . > > 1. The source for the top 13 is Andy Smith's posting on the Rocklist > website (hang your heads in shame, Messrs Wall and Heatley). Here he > says "I had trouble tracking down that tape I told you about of John > Peel's festive 50 from 1977. Well I have found it but it only has the > top thirteen! Beter than nothing so here they are . . . Bit > disappointing, I know but I thought there was another tape amongst the > boxes, but there wasn't." Here, then, is someone who not only remembers > there being a Festive Fifty in 1977, but actually taped it. > > 2. It is claimed (probably by the band themselves) that Some Chicken's > New Religion held down the number 16 position in the chart. > > 3. A fiver says the Ramones' Pin Head, the Stranglers' London Lady (it > mentions Liverpool!) and X-Ray Spex' Oh Bondage are all in there as > well. > From jimmystep@... Tue Mar 6 02:15:21 2007 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:15:21 -0000 Subject: not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: <3790E652-E87C-48B8-8AC4-7A9CFE8A2CC2@...> Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh wrote: > > What I can recall is that he did it in rundown stylee, I can still > remember my shock at The Motors appearing at 3 and then at 1 as well! > (He'd dropped hints about the top of the chart so I can remember > expecting 'Dancing the Night Away' being up there due to earlier > comments and airplay, and 'Uptopwn Top Ranking' being a shoo-in, but > 'You Beat The Hell Outtta Me' was something of a surprise!) Aaah common... The Motors were the perfect transition from the old to new in a pop stylee... Great pop music along side Elvis C's stuff and the Tyla Gang from the time. It was the energy that got us going. Thats why he was playing Blue Oyster Cult alongside The Motors! Anyroads, can't help with that festive 50 from 77. Omly tape I have is dated 28/12/77 (I must have have better things to do at the age of 22!) and this is a sort of best of sessions which takes up about 40 minutes. This has been edited by myself at the time. Usually recorded it on timer then dubbed the sessions over to another tape. Anyway, broadcast on the 28th Dec 77, according to me, were parts of sessions by The Vibrators, Elvis, Lurkers, Slits, Poodles, Boomtown Rats, June Tabor & Colliseum II. This means that, if it was a 2 hour session and I hadn't got in after the pubs shut at 10:00 (or was it 11 by then ?). The June Tabor track "No Mans Land" reduced me to tears again, as it did the first time I heard it and every time subsequently. I cannot say for definite, but I think that JP played the ColliseumII track "Lament" after the June Tabor track to carry home the anti war effect... Summary, at least on the 28th Dec 77 JP broadcast a best of session. He could have had it interspersed with top fifty tracks, I cannot remember specificaly, as I was too busy getting pissed/stoned at the time. Cheers....Jimmy From dbarrell@... Tue Mar 6 11:14:21 2007 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:14:21 +0000 Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: <001d01c75f48$0ae01490$4001a8c0@homelaptop> References: <001d01c75f48$0ae01490$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Message-ID: <45ED3EFD.4040102@...> It should probably be mentioned (or maybe already has) that Marc Riley is playing some Peel session tracks on his 6music show, Brain Surgery. Dan lollygagger@... wrote: > > > Hi I find he does the odd good show. I noticed that when he got back > from his hols he repeated a number of tracts he played before he went away. > > In general I find that Hew Stevens and Rob play more laid back music > alternative music which vary from interesting to nightmarish. They seem > to be slipping into the pace of music you would expect for early morning > listening. > > I still record each of the shows on to laptop but am having to resort to > other shows for music with a bit of go in it. > > Adam > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Sean Carolan > *To:* peel@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2007 1:13 AM > *Subject:* [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... > > All, > > Back on The Nation's Number One, I'm honestly having a great time > listening > to Rob Da Bank...anyone else? > > (He's got Air on at the moment, and they pulled up Ghosts by Japan, > and a > Philip Glass track...I'm all for challenging listening, and this > seems to be > it...) > > -Sean > > -- Daniel Barrell EMBL - The EBI Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SD Phone: +44 (0)1223 492551 Email: dbarrell@... From ken_garner@... Tue Mar 6 11:44:57 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken_garner) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:44:57 -0000 Subject: More on Festive 50 / best of shows 1977 Message-ID: JimmyStep is right, show of 28/12/77 was extracts of best of year's sessions. All the ones he mentions are on the PasB script - except the Vibrators. His memory appears pretty much bang on then, although Stranglers' Burning Up Time, Frankie Miller's Be Good To Yourself, and Elvis C's Red Shows appear to be played between Tabor's No Man's Land and Colosseum II's Lament. Motors' You Beat The Hell Out of Me ended the show. It's always possible running order was different on air, but unlikely (the PasB is normally typed up AFTER the show has been aired) There had been another full two-hour show (10pm-midnight)of best of sessions of 77 show before Christmas, on Wed 21/12. And so it's the shows in between where the Peel's personal F50 was aired, reaching No 1 on 27/12 - you missed it by one day, Jimmy! See below, everyone, from the draft day by day index for the new book: does this help anyone's memory further? The only questions now are, which day did he start the countdown? Did he interrupt it with other non-F50 records? Did he always start the countdown after the concert tracks? or play some before them as well? Th 22/12 (Thin Lizzy Concert, 1st TX 1/9/73)+ records F 23/12 (Traffic Concert 1st TX 10/5/70) + records M 26/12 (The Faces, 5th Concert, 1st TX 21/4/73) + records T 27/12 (Stranglers, private tape) & Peel's personal 'Festive 50', Top 14 favourite records of 1977 kg From roger.carruthers@... Tue Mar 6 13:57:59 2007 From: roger.carruthers@... (roger3905) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:57:59 -0000 Subject: [OT] Software for web radio Message-ID: Hi team, please excuse the slightly OT nature of this post, but if you'll bear with me, you might find some useful info here. I'd like to draw your attention to a couple of bits of software that I think may be of use to some of you, particularly those of you involved in web radio. The first is something of my own: Kat's Karavan is a virtual radio studio, comprising 4 'cart' players, 4 inputs for mics, outboard etc. each with EQ, VST fx slots and a limiter, all of which can be assigned to a stereo output bus and/or a monitor bus, if you have a sound card with more than 2 channels. There is also a VST slot and a limiter on the output, and the whole shebang can be recorded to disc for podcasting etc. Kat's Karavan is free (as in free beer), and although it's currently only available for Macintosh (OS X), I hope to have a Windows (XP) version in the not too distant future. The current release (v.1.4) is a 'beta'; it's seems stable enough so far, but I welcome any bug requests or feature reports. Find it at http://www.wildfrontear.co.uk/KK folder.zip The second is a recommendation based on something I've been using at work recently, a piece of commercial software called Dot Tunes. I do tech support in the Media dept. at a university, and I've not long finished putting our sound fx library (previously loaned out through the Library on about 100 CD's) onto a server using this software, and I must say, I'm very impressed. It's a great way of sharing audio - in our case it's just sound effects, but it could just as easily be radio shows - because it's very easy to set up (it uses your iTunes library), is searchable and gives you control over who has access to the library, either by password, or by I.P. We actually got a licence for free, simply because my colleague was cheeky enough to ask, so I'm returning the favour by giving the makers a plug; I have no financial interest in this. I'm sure the makers don't condone any illegal activity, but for a group of consenting adults such as us Peelers, I see great potential for such a thing. Anyway, check it out at http://www.dottunes.net/ Apologies again for the OT posting, cheers Roger From sploozed@... Tue Mar 6 14:09:56 2007 From: sploozed@... (Mark) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:09:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: <001d01c75f48$0ae01490$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Message-ID: <661985.13563.qm@...> That's the problem for me too. Huw's show is very good in terms of quality, but it's just doesn't have the range. It's the same with the Freakzone in a way. They're too categorisable, if you can use that word in a pejorative sense? While Rob seems to duplicate too much of the music you can already hear elsewhere. --- lollygagger@... wrote: > Hi I find [Rob Da Bank] does the odd good show. > > In general I find that Hew Stevens and Rob play more > laid back music alternative music > > [I'm still]having to resort to other shows for > music with a bit of go in it. ___________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From hubcity@... Tue Mar 6 15:02:50 2007 From: hubcity@... (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:02:50 -0500 Subject: [peel] [OT] Software for web radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070306140106.M26664@...> Roger, Verrrry interesting. I'm currently hobbled by XP, so I'll have to wait for that. (Of course, there's a voice in my head that wants to ask for a "randomly start song at wrong speed" feature...) -Sean On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:57:59 -0000, roger3905 wrote > Hi team, > please excuse the slightly OT nature of this post, but if you'll > bear with me, you might find some useful info here. I'd like to draw > your attention to a couple of bits of software that I think may be > of use to some of you, particularly those of you involved in web radio. > The first is something of my own: Kat's Karavan is a virtual radio > studio, comprising 4 'cart' players, 4 inputs for mics, outboard > etc. each with EQ, VST fx slots and a limiter, all of which can be > assigned to a stereo output bus and/or a monitor bus, if you have a > sound card with more than 2 channels. There is also a VST slot and a > limiter on the output, and the whole shebang can be recorded to disc > for podcasting etc. Kat's Karavan is free (as in free beer), and > although it's currently only available for Macintosh (OS X), I hope > to have a Windows (XP) version in the not too distant future. The > current release (v.1.4) is a 'beta'; it's seems stable enough so far, > but I welcome any bug requests or feature reports. Find it at > http://www.wildfrontear.co.uk/KK folder.zip > From mwheatley@... Tue Mar 6 18:03:51 2007 From: mwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:03:51 +0000 Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: <45ED3EFD.4040102@...> References: <001d01c75f48$0ae01490$4001a8c0@homelaptop> <45ED3EFD.4040102@...> Message-ID: <20070306170354.9C27DE000127@...> At 10:14 06/03/2007, you wrote: >It should probably be mentioned (or maybe already has) that Marc Riley >is playing some Peel session tracks on his 6music show, Brain Surgery. > >Dan There is one old Peel session in each Brain Surgery and also a link where you can request them In addition to this 6Music put out old sessions at 4.30 each morning! http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/chris_hawkins/features.shtml and http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/clare_mcdonnell/liveat4.shtml Not easy for most people to listen to them but the whole progs are on the BBC player and if you have the right technology they are not inaccessible (I use the timer in Total Recorder) martinw From dunelm@... Tue Mar 6 22:01:06 2007 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:01:06 -0000 Subject: F50 of 1977 Message-ID: Hello again, Ken. Unfortunately I can't remember whether any of those specific records were in the fifty or not. But here's a bit of old-fashioned conjecture for you (for what it's worth) . . . 1. The NME Capital Radio freebie was made available in April 1977 and so was certainly not played as a current, new or forthcoming release. And Peel had already flagged it as one of his favourite records of the year by including it in the 29/08/77 punk special. So if not a Festive Fifty cert, it was certainly a contender. 2. Jocko Homo/Mongoloid was not officially released in the UK until February 1978. So in a sense it was ineligible for the 1977 chart. But the US release had been selling well on import since March 1977, so it could have been included on that basis. So mark that one down as a "possible". 3. African/Stepping Razor (from the Equal Rights LP) was released in April 1977, so again would not have been played as a current, new or forthcoming release. Which means there is a good chance that it was played as part of the Festive Fifty. 4. Time Loves A Hero was released in May 1977 (I'm not sure it's a live LP, though), so again we're not talking about a current, new or forthcoming release. And of course Peel adored Little Feat, so Rocket In My Pocket may well have appeared in his personal Festive Fifty. The fact that all four records date back to the early part of 1977 suggests to me that the schedule was part of a structured review of the year as a whole – the tracks are not interspersed with old favourites or current/new/forthcoming releases – and my guess is that we're looking at consecutive selections in Peel's 1977 Festive Fifty. As regards Green Onions (from Loading Zone, I believe), this is certainly a 1977 release. However, when it comes to the Festive Fifty, fifty has always meant fifty. So I'm not sure we need worry about a number 61! I'm not sure if the above analysis is of any assistance to you or not. If there are any sections of the scripts which remain ambiguous, please post them here – there may be someone who can light the way! Regards. Adrian Barber. From stuart@... Wed Mar 7 10:38:43 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:38:43 +0000 Subject: F50 of 1977 In-Reply-To: <1173257646.361.13920.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1173257646.361.13920.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <79AC8698-802F-494E-9812-BDFD4F09A1DF@...> > As regards Green Onions (from Loading Zone, I believe), this is > certainly a 1977 release. However, when it comes to the Festive > Fifty, fifty has always meant fifty. So I'm not sure we need worry > about a number 61! oh, I dunno - as Ken said: > Top 14 favourite records of 1977 (was that a typo?) Seriously tough, I know John would obviously broadcast the top 50, but did anyone else here send off a SAE for a printed copy of the chart? I know I did, and you'd get back (with a note from John, seemingly 'photocopied' on fax paper sometimes), a full festive 60 or 65, sometimes with full timings etc. On 77, I'm pretty sure Little Feat were in there somewhere because I can recall hearing them for the first time on one of those shows (our local record library had a copy of Feets Don't Fail me Now, I think, but I'd never borrowed it until later that Xmas). Same applies to Colosseum II. Can also remember some Stranglers track in there, but I wasn't sure of John's opinion on the band (as 12 or 13 year olds we were all quite forgiving of their lineage and dubious lyrics etc). Looking back I'd guess that they perhaps weren't part of his personal list? Stuart http://www.isthismusic.com From lollygagger@... Wed Mar 7 11:48:00 2007 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger@...) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:48:00 -0000 Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... References: <661985.13563.qm@...> Message-ID: <00fe01c760a6$139f19a0$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Hi Mark You mentioned "Freakzone" I would like to give it a listen. I can't say I have heard of that one before. Where is it? Thanks Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... That's the problem for me too. Huw's show is very good in terms of quality, but it's just doesn't have the range. It's the same with the Freakzone in a way. They're too categorisable, if you can use that word in a pejorative sense? While Rob seems to duplicate too much of the music you can already hear elsewhere. --- lollygagger@... wrote: > Hi I find [Rob Da Bank] does the odd good show. > > In general I find that Hew Stevens and Rob play more > laid back music alternative music > > [I'm still]having to resort to other shows for > music with a bit of go in it. __________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From sploozed@... Wed Mar 7 12:28:41 2007 From: sploozed@... (Mark) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:28:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: <00fe01c760a6$139f19a0$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Message-ID: <178139.37718.qm@...> http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/ It's on from 5pm to 8mp on Sundays. It can a get a bit proggy for me and I suppose, it could get a bit jazzy for others, but it there are occasional gems. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From robfleay@... Wed Mar 7 12:52:20 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:52:20 +0000 Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... Message-ID: <20070307115220.BTRX17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > You mentioned "Freakzone" I would like to give it a listen. I can't say I have heard of that one before. Where is it? Stuart Maconie's program on 6Music http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/ beware of the prog! ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From martinw@... Wed Mar 7 13:47:26 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:47:26 +0000 Subject: [peel] Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: <20070307115220.BTRX17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@s mtp.ntlworld.com> References: <20070307115220.BTRX17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: At 11:52 07/03/2007, you wrote: > > You mentioned "Freakzone" I would like to give it a listen. I > can't say I have heard of that one before. Where is it? > >Stuart Maconie's program on 6Music >http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/ >beware of the prog! One advantage of 6Music is that they put up all the playlists so if you click a few recent Tracklistings on the Freakzone page you'll soon have an idea if you would like it or not martinw From koogy@... Wed Mar 7 14:37:56 2007 From: koogy@... (Andrew Dean) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:37:56 +0000 Subject: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... References: <20070307115220.BTRX17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: >>Stuart Maconie's program on 6Music >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/ >>beware of the prog! > > One advantage of 6Music is that they put up all the playlists > so if you click a few recent Tracklistings on the Freakzone page > you'll soon have an idea if you would like it or not but that only works if you've heard of any of the artists listed and you assume you don't like what you don't know. the joy of freakzone (and the idea behind it judging by the name) is that it's almost entirely new to me. (see also: 'out on blue six') as for RDB, i didn't like him when he took over in the evenings. but as soon as i realised that he wasn't Peel and that he wasn't trying to be and listened to him for his own sake i started enjoying it (and he is still a highlight of the week). he's also the only person i've heard play Melt Banana on the radio since that october. there's still a ton of stuff i got used to hearing on peel's shows that i can't find broadcast anywhere else (or, if i can, it's broadcast as part of speciality shows (lamarr usually) where you get an hour of nothing but old rock n roll (for instance) rather than all mixed up). that's what i miss. (for the record: dandelion, slashmusic, kershaw, radcliffe, mary-anne hobs, da bank, garagepressure.com, fab & groove and acres of mp3s) From martinw@... Wed Mar 7 15:31:23 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:31:23 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: References: <20070307115220.BTRX17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: >Andrew wrote >(for the record: dandelion, slashmusic, kershaw, radcliffe, mary-anne hobs, >da bank, garagepressure.com, fab & groove and acres of mp3s) And missing from that list is Marcelle's 'Another Nice Mess" martinw From lollygagger@... Wed Mar 7 18:09:28 2007 From: lollygagger@... (lollygagger@...) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:09:28 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... References: <20070307115220.BTRX17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <000e01c760db$5ecb3af0$4001a8c0@homelaptop> Hi All I am giving last Sunday/Monday mornings RDB a play and it was a particularly good show. I'm normally hopeful but despondent but last Sundays show was good and I am pleasantly surprised as I am listening while I type. So credit where credit is due. I normally drop RDB a line to let him know when his shows are good in the hope that he might take note :)) Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Dean To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:37 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... >>Stuart Maconie's program on 6Music >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/ >>beware of the prog! > > One advantage of 6Music is that they put up all the playlists > so if you click a few recent Tracklistings on the Freakzone page > you'll soon have an idea if you would like it or not but that only works if you've heard of any of the artists listed and you assume you don't like what you don't know. the joy of freakzone (and the idea behind it judging by the name) is that it's almost entirely new to me. (see also: 'out on blue six') as for RDB, i didn't like him when he took over in the evenings. but as soon as i realised that he wasn't Peel and that he wasn't trying to be and listened to him for his own sake i started enjoying it (and he is still a highlight of the week). he's also the only person i've heard play Melt Banana on the radio since that october. there's still a ton of stuff i got used to hearing on peel's shows that i can't find broadcast anywhere else (or, if i can, it's broadcast as part of speciality shows (lamarr usually) where you get an hour of nothing but old rock n roll (for instance) rather than all mixed up). that's what i miss. (for the record: dandelion, slashmusic, kershaw, radcliffe, mary-anne hobs, da bank, garagepressure.com, fab & groove and acres of mp3s) From janet.robertson@... Wed Mar 7 20:03:33 2007 From: janet.robertson@... (Janet Robertson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:03:33 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... In-Reply-To: <20070307163557.BFGK8862.aamtain02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <001201c760eb$4e36be20$0202a8c0@Laptop> plus The Yank Sizzler podcast: http://theyanksizzler.libsyn.com/ Jan -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Martin Wheatley Sent: 07 March 2007 14:31 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Givng Rob Da Bank A Bit Of Love... >Andrew wrote >(for the record: dandelion, slashmusic, kershaw, radcliffe, mary-anne hobs, >da bank, garagepressure.com, fab & groove and acres of mp3s) And missing from that list is Marcelle's 'Another Nice Mess" martinw From stuart@... Wed Mar 7 22:20:12 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:20:12 +0000 Subject: Kevin Coyne Tribute In-Reply-To: <1173257646.361.13920.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1173257646.361.13920.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <103D4F27-F105-4CAE-9D3A-F8E6DD7A76DA@...> Phil, one of our regulars, asked me to post this info about a Kevin Coyne tribute (so it didn't seem like spam, he said, but it's a very worthy cause!) Kevin as you no doubt know was one of John's first signings to the Dandelion label and over the years featured many times on his various radio programmes. A full track listing can be found at our web site: www.lifeandliving.net with some short samples and there are four pull tracks at Kevin Coyne Books Myspace site: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=79495954 All proceeds from the sale of the CD go to Life And Living who are a voluntary group working with psychiatric service users at the Maudsley Hospital in London. From festive50@... Thu Mar 8 00:03:03 2007 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:03:03 -0000 Subject: [peel] Kevin Coyne Tribute In-Reply-To: <103D4F27-F105-4CAE-9D3A-F8E6DD7A76DA@...> Message-ID: Assuming this was aimed at me Stuart (in my Dandelion Radio guise). Thanks, but the chap has already been in contact with us at Dandelion Radio Towers and he's just dropped the CD round to one our crew and will probably be featured in next month's schedule. Thanks again Phil Edwards -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McHugh Sent: 07 March 2007 21:20 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Kevin Coyne Tribute Phil, one of our regulars, asked me to post this info about a Kevin Coyne tribute (so it didn't seem like spam, he said, but it's a very worthy cause!) Kevin as you no doubt know was one of John's first signings to the Dandelion label and over the years featured many times on his various radio programmes. A full track listing can be found at our web site: www.lifeandliving.net with some short samples and there are four pull tracks at Kevin Coyne Books Myspace site: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=79 495954 All proceeds from the sale of the CD go to Life And Living who are a voluntary group working with psychiatric service users at the Maudsley Hospital in London. From jimmystep@... Thu Mar 8 01:58:43 2007 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 00:58:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: More on Festive 50 / best of shows 1977 In-Reply-To: <1173257646.361.13920.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <938535.49004.qm@...> > 2. More on Festive 50 / best of shows 1977 > JimmyStep is right, show of 28/12/77 was extracts of > best of year's > sessions. All the ones he mentions are on the PasB > script - except > the Vibrators. And that's because the Vibrators track was from some other show! It's London Girls and is a live track, not a session track. So it's sneaked onto the beginning of that tape from somewhere. Did they appear on Live at the Roxy/Vortex? > His memory appears pretty much bang > on then, although > Stranglers' Burning Up Time, Frankie Miller's Be > Good To Yourself, > and Elvis C's Red Shows appear to be played between > Tabor's No Man's > Land and Colosseum II's Lament. Motors' You Beat The > Hell Out of Me > ended the show. It's always possible running order > was different on > air, but unlikely (the PasB is normally typed up > AFTER the show has > been aired) Nothing to do with memory! I've still got the tape and it's written down in me old notebook! It is highly probable that I have dubbed these from another tape & they are not in the order as broadcast. And I've missed out the stranglers & Motors as I already had them from a previous broadcast, 17/10/77 & 20/10/77 respectively. Cheers...Jimmy ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail � Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From tonydonaghey@... Thu Mar 8 10:31:35 2007 From: tonydonaghey@... (tony donaghey) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:31:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Kevin Coyne Tribute In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <571275.9783.qm@...> The two mentions of the Kevin Coyne tribute album lead me to tie it in with a tread that has been running on this group for awhile - namely variety. John was a Coyne fan thru and thru signing him to Dandelion and giving him numerous sessions - I would dare to say he was one of the first to release Peel sessions on an album in 1977(there's a debate). This tribute album features many varied styles of artists covering Kevin's songs. Nikki Sudden - with one of his last recordings does Marlene, Alternative TV do Hello Judas (hear that on the myspace page) www.myspace.com/kevincoynebookscom whist Goldfish do Sand All Yellow from Case History and give it an experimental treatment. I urge those not familar with this superb songwriter to give the myspace songs a listen - Then buy the album and then the 40+ albums kevin released during his life time. Tony Phil Edwards wrote: Assuming this was aimed at me Stuart (in my Dandelion Radio guise). Thanks, but the chap has already been in contact with us at Dandelion Radio Towers and he's just dropped the CD round to one our crew and will probably be featured in next month's schedule. Thanks again Phil Edwards -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McHugh Sent: 07 March 2007 21:20 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Kevin Coyne Tribute Phil, one of our regulars, asked me to post this info about a Kevin Coyne tribute (so it didn't seem like spam, he said, but it's a very worthy cause!) Kevin as you no doubt know was one of John's first signings to the Dandelion label and over the years featured many times on his various radio programmes. A full track listing can be found at our web site: www.lifeandliving.net with some short samples and there are four pull tracks at Kevin Coyne Books Myspace site: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=79495954 All proceeds from the sale of the CD go to Life And Living who are a voluntary group working with psychiatric service users at the Maudsley Hospital in London. From stuart@... Thu Mar 8 10:45:27 2007 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:45:27 +0000 Subject: Kevin Coyne Tribute In-Reply-To: <1173343777.278.47479.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1173343777.278.47479.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <2D35F54C-9CED-4BE2-9AED-4713B01F2924@...> > Assuming this was aimed at me Stuart (in my Dandelion Radio guise). > Thanks, but the chap has already been in contact with us at > Dandelion Radio > Towers and he's just dropped the CD round to one our crew and will > probably > be featured > nope, he's actually called Paul, and the post is aimed at everyone on the list - good cause! > Kevin as you no doubt know was one of John's first signings to the > Dandelion label and over the years featured many times on his > various radio > programmes. A full track listing can be found at our web site: > > www.lifeandliving.net > > with some short samples and there are four pull tracks at Kevin > Coyne > Books Myspace site: > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? > fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=79 > 495954 > > All proceeds from the sale of the CD go to Life And Living who are a > voluntary group working with psychiatric service users at the Maudsley > Hospital in London. > oh... > Andrew wrote > (for the record: dandelion, slashmusic, kershaw, radcliffe, mary- > anne hobs, > da bank, garagepressure.com, fab & groove and acres of mp3s) there's also http://www.radiomagnetic.com/ where you can browse by genre or search by show name , it's not all dance or electronic - since they moved to doing more podcasts and less live broadcasting there's more 'archive'-style shows to listen to. Though I should apologise right now that there's not been an edition of Fallout in a couple of months... Stuart From paul@... Thu Mar 8 11:42:18 2007 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:42:18 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway Message-ID: <044601c7616e$71ad5430$0202a8c0@...> on Desert Island Discs (BBC Radio4 Sunday 11th March 2007 at 11:15 to 12:00, repeated 16th at 09:45) plus ... Andy Kershaw on BBC Radio Three on Monday 12th March 2007 at 23:15 to 01:00 Desert Island Discs: The Flotsam. Andy presents some of the CDs from his shortlist of 300 that did not make it into his selection for Desert Island Discs on BBC Radio 4. (Remember - Andy's show recently moved from Sunday to Monday) Paul From koogy@... Thu Mar 8 12:38:19 2007 From: koogy@... (Andrew Dean) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:38:19 +0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: <044601c7616e$71ad5430$0202a8c0@...> References: <044601c7616e$71ad5430$0202a8c0@...> Message-ID: > on Desert Island Discs (BBC Radio4 Sunday 11th March 2007 at 11:15 to 12:00, > repeated 16th at 09:45) > > plus ... > Andy Kershaw on BBC Radio Three on Monday 12th March 2007 at 23:15 to 01:00 > Desert Island Discs: The Flotsam. > Andy presents some of the CDs from his shortlist of 300 that did not make it > into his selection for Desert Island Discs on BBC Radio 4. > > (Remember - Andy's show recently moved from Sunday to Monday) Remember also that Desert Island Discs is not available on BBC Listen Again. (but Monday show is) (thanks for the reminder) andy From dunelm@... Fri Mar 9 12:50:44 2007 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:50:44 -0000 Subject: More on Festive 50 / best of shows 1977 Message-ID: "And that's because the Vibrators track was from some other show! It's London Girls and is a live track, not a session track. So it's sneaked onto the beginning of that tape from somewhere. Did they appear on Live at the Roxy/Vortex?" Of course, London Girls (Live) was released as a single in August 1977, and this was the version included in Peel's punk special of 29/08/77. From pbryant98@... Sat Mar 10 07:59:44 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:59:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Re: not dead, am doing a book Message-ID: <20070310065944.59754.qmail@...> Dear Ken and all Perhaps I have not been paying attention (not uncommon) but I can't recall if Peel's Night Ride sessions are included in this updated book or just the Top Gear sessions. Many thanks Paul --- Paul Bryant wrote: > > --- ken_garner wrote: > > > > > thanks, that's terrific. Now all we need, as my > old > > news reporting > > training would have it, is for two more people who > > listened that week > > to confirm that Peel said it was a Festive '50' > and > we have the truth > > triangulated > > > Ah, I see - if three people separately > misunderstand, > mishear or mistake something then for a journalist > it > becomes a proven fact! > > Just kidding! > > pb > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 > hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your > fit. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From pbryant98@... Sat Mar 10 08:01:15 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:01:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Not dead, am doing a book Message-ID: <20070310070115.9795.qmail@...> Dear Ken and all Perhaps I have not been paying attention (not uncommon) but I can't recall if Peel's Night Ride sessions are included in this updated book or just the Top Gear sessions. Many thanks Paul ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From ken_garner@... Sat Mar 10 09:43:03 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:43:03 -0000 Subject: Not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: <20070310070115.9795.qmail@...> Message-ID: yes, as far as they are known (almost all are), the Night Ride sessions will be included. The idea is to try and include all sessions first broadcast on any show Peel presented on Radio 1. And by a session I mean one day's work pre-recorded in a BBC or other identifiable studio. So I will not be giving full listings in the sessionography of the live sets from venues with audiences in attendance at Glastonbury, Reading, R1's various Sound City / One Live jaunts around the provinces, Sonar, Groningen, etc etc. They'll be mentioned briefly in the day by day programme calendar, of course. I will, however, be including full details of the live studio sessions from Miada Vale and Peel Acres in latter years, because (and here's the crunch) they would not have happened without Radio 1, and were primarily being performed for a radio audience. From the bands I have spoken to so far, most people are agreed on this - most of us know what counts as a Peel Session, and what is something slightly different. ken --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant wrote: > > Dear Ken and all > > Perhaps I have not been paying attention (not > uncommon) but I can't recall if Peel's Night Ride > sessions are included in this updated book or just the > Top Gear sessions. > > Many thanks > > Paul > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > From pbryant98@... Sat Mar 10 10:54:12 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:54:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Re: Re : Not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <32302.39357.qm@...> Thanks Ken! While I have your ear, here's a slightly arcane question about Night Ride. Peel used to rebroadcast of sessions regularly on Top Gear, but on that programme he had loads of time to play with & so that made sense. He only had 55 minutes on Night Ride, but I know from my Incredible String band collecting that he re-broadcast sessions on Night Ride too. Why would he do that? Paul --- ken garner wrote: > > yes, as far as they are known (almost all are), the > Night Ride > sessions will be included. The idea is to try and > include all > sessions first broadcast on any show Peel presented > on Radio 1. And > by a session I mean one day's work pre-recorded in a > BBC or other > identifiable studio. So I will not be giving full > listings in the > sessionography of the live sets from venues with > audiences in > attendance at Glastonbury, Reading, R1's various > Sound City / One > Live jaunts around the provinces, Sonar, Groningen, > etc etc. They'll > be mentioned briefly in the day by day programme > calendar, of course. > I will, however, be including full details of the > live studio > sessions from Miada Vale and Peel Acres in latter > years, because (and > here's the crunch) they would not have happened > without Radio 1, and > were primarily being performed for a radio audience. > From the bands I > have spoken to so far, most people are agreed on > this - most of us > know what counts as a Peel Session, and what is > something slightly > different. > > ken > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant > wrote: > > > > Dear Ken and all > > > > Perhaps I have not been paying attention (not > > uncommon) but I can't recall if Peel's Night Ride > > sessions are included in this updated book or just > the > > Top Gear sessions. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from > Yahoo! Answers users. > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From martinw@... Sat Mar 10 14:22:29 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:22:29 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Re : Not dead, am doing a book In-Reply-To: <32302.39357.qm@...> References: <32302.39357.qm@...> Message-ID: At 09:54 10/03/2007, you wrote: >Thanks Ken! While I have your ear, here's a slightly >arcane question about Night Ride. Peel used to >rebroadcast of sessions regularly on Top Gear, but on >that programme he had loads of time to play with & so >that made sense. He only had 55 minutes on Night Ride, >but I know from my Incredible String band collecting >that he re-broadcast sessions on Night Ride too. Why >would he do that? > >Paul Sessions cost money The budget would only allow for so many martinw From ken_garner@... Sun Mar 11 00:33:03 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:33:03 -0000 Subject: Needletime / Nightride Message-ID: A few quick points. 1. Peel had so many sessions before 1988, and repeated them at least once, sometimes 2 or 3 times, because of needletime, the backdoor deal by which the record companies in alliance with the musicians' union restricted the amount of minutes per day each BBC Radio network could play from commercial records. Peel's 3-hour original Top Gear show would feature up to 6 sessions and had just 60 minutes of needletime allocated ("regarded as very generous!" Bernie Andrews told me). Imports, white labels, etc were cunning ways round this to an extent. 2. Nightride was made by a production department (called Recorded Programmes Service or RPS I seem to recall) specifically set up to exploit non-needletime recordings (eg world music, speech, imports), so it had no needletime at all 3. ...er, but actually, according to my analysis of the Nightride PasBs, (I could be wrong) there was actually only ever one session repeated in Peel's run / wednesday nights, and that was... well, would you believe it, the one 1st TX in the very first show on 6/3/68, by the Incredible String Band! (rpt on 26/6/68). Why did he do that? Probably because - and this answers a query made to me off list by another ISB fan - on finding and checking the 26/6 PasB tonight (at the bottom of one of my boxes) I find that there were indeed 2 tracks aired that night that there had not been time for on 1/3, 'Goodnight', and 'Won't You Come See Me', so it was in effect a double session recorded back on 4/3/68, well worth a repeat! Don't know how I missed those 14 years ago 4. If I keep answering these wee questions - more fool me - I am never going to finish the book. Can I do a deal with listers? I'll try and come on once a week and answer one or two titbits if I can, while striving not to give away so much such that nobody wants to buy the book; and in return, more of those of you who can, have a check through your diaries and tapes to see if you can answer any of those 'blanks' or 'imcomplete data' dates in the chronology? (my list is posted here under files, on the left there) Many thanks to the half dozen or so who have already sent me such answers by e-mailing off list, and thereby already got themselves an acknowledgement in the book, cheers ken PS, before any Pink Floyd fans charge in, yes of course I know a later Night Ride session by them was repeated on Top Gear, but that was the exception (different departments, you see, jealously guarded tapes) From ken_garner@... Sun Mar 11 00:48:22 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:48:22 -0000 Subject: Needletime / Nightride In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oops, sorry for that typo, where I typed 1/3, should read 6/3, of course - kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "ken garner" wrote: > > A few quick points. > > 1. Peel had so many sessions before 1988, and repeated them at least > once, sometimes 2 or 3 times, because of needletime, the backdoor > deal by which the record companies in alliance with the musicians' > union restricted the amount of minutes per day each BBC Radio network > could play from commercial records. Peel's 3-hour original Top Gear > show would feature up to 6 sessions and had just 60 minutes of > needletime allocated ("regarded as very generous!" Bernie Andrews > told me). Imports, white labels, etc were cunning ways round this to > an extent. > > 2. Nightride was made by a production department (called Recorded > Programmes Service or RPS I seem to recall) specifically set up to > exploit non-needletime recordings (eg world music, speech, imports), > so it had no needletime at all > > 3. ...er, but actually, according to my analysis of the Nightride > PasBs, (I could be wrong) there was actually only ever one session > repeated in Peel's run / wednesday nights, and that was... well, > would you believe it, the one 1st TX in the very first show on > 6/3/68, by the Incredible String Band! (rpt on 26/6/68). Why did he > do that? Probably because - and this answers a query made to me off > list by another ISB fan - on finding and checking the 26/6 PasB > tonight (at the bottom of one of my boxes) I find that there were > indeed 2 tracks aired that night that there had not been time for on > 1/3, 'Goodnight', and 'Won't You Come See Me', so it was in effect a > double session recorded back on 4/3/68, well worth a repeat! Don't > know how I missed those 14 years ago > > 4. If I keep answering these wee questions - more fool me - I am > never going to finish the book. Can I do a deal with listers? I'll > try and come on once a week and answer one or two titbits if I can, > while striving not to give away so much such that nobody wants to buy > the book; and in return, more of those of you who can, have a check > through your diaries and tapes to see if you can answer any of > those 'blanks' or 'imcomplete data' dates in the chronology? (my list > is posted here under files, on the left there) Many thanks to the > half dozen or so who have already sent me such answers by e-mailing > off list, and thereby already got themselves an acknowledgement in > the book, > > cheers > > ken > > PS, before any Pink Floyd fans charge in, yes of course I know a > later Night Ride session by them was repeated on Top Gear, but that > was the exception (different departments, you see, jealously guarded > tapes) > From pbryant98@... Sun Mar 11 01:07:46 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:07:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Needletime / Nightride In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <876036.72226.qm@...> --- ken garner wrote: > A few quick points. > > 1. Peel had so many sessions before 1988, and > repeated them at least > once, sometimes 2 or 3 times, because of needletime, > the backdoor > deal by which the record companies in alliance with > the musicians' > union restricted the amount of minutes per day each > BBC Radio network > could play from commercial records. Retrospective apology and heartfelt thanks to the Musicians' Union, then. I remember we used to curse these old fashioned fools who were stopping us hearing pop music on the BBC and forcing Joe Loss and his Big Band featuring Billy Bunter, vocalist, down our throats. But in attempting to stem the tide of progress, they did us all a favour by inadvertently inventing the Peel session. Anyway, thanks for the details, Ken. I'll let you get on with your work now! pb Peel's 3-hour > original Top Gear > show would feature up to 6 sessions and had just 60 > minutes of > needletime allocated ("regarded as very generous!" > Bernie Andrews > told me). Imports, white labels, etc were cunning > ways round this to > an extent. > > 2. Nightride was made by a production department > (called Recorded > Programmes Service or RPS I seem to recall) > specifically set up to > exploit non-needletime recordings (eg world music, > speech, imports), > so it had no needletime at all > > 3. ...er, but actually, according to my analysis of > the Nightride > PasBs, (I could be wrong) there was actually only > ever one session > repeated in Peel's run / wednesday nights, and that > was... well, > would you believe it, the one 1st TX in the very > first show on > 6/3/68, by the Incredible String Band! (rpt on > 26/6/68). Why did he > do that? Probably because - and this answers a query > made to me off > list by another ISB fan - on finding and checking > the 26/6 PasB > tonight (at the bottom of one of my boxes) I find > that there were > indeed 2 tracks aired that night that there had not > been time for on > 1/3, 'Goodnight', and 'Won't You Come See Me', so it > was in effect a > double session recorded back on 4/3/68, well worth a > repeat! Don't > know how I missed those 14 years ago > > 4. If I keep answering these wee questions - more > fool me - I am > never going to finish the book. Can I do a deal with > listers? I'll > try and come on once a week and answer one or two > titbits if I can, > while striving not to give away so much such that > nobody wants to buy > the book; and in return, more of those of you who > can, have a check > through your diaries and tapes to see if you can > answer any of > those 'blanks' or 'imcomplete data' dates in the > chronology? (my list > is posted here under files, on the left there) Many > thanks to the > half dozen or so who have already sent me such > answers by e-mailing > off list, and thereby already got themselves an > acknowledgement in > the book, > > cheers > > ken > > PS, before any Pink Floyd fans charge in, yes of > course I know a > later Night Ride session by them was repeated on Top > Gear, but that > was the exception (different departments, you see, > jealously guarded > tapes) > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From hubcity@... Tue Mar 13 12:41:16 2007 From: hubcity@... (hubcity@...) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:41:16 -0400 Subject: [OT] [Altrok] Update #150: Support Your Local Web Radio Station! 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Thu Mar 15 17:19:15 2007 From: willowct@... (Willow) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:19:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Yo La Tengo / WFMU Message-ID: <20070315161915.78801.qmail@...> >From YLT HQ: That's right folks, it's that time of year again. Sorry for the short notice, but we just and I mean just got back from far far away, from the land where your Automatic Replies were going to cripple our in-box. So yes, it's short notice. Friday, March 16, 8 pm in your eastern daylight time, Georgia, James and I, along with our trusty sidekick Bruce Bennett (airlines willing), will take to the airwaves of WFMU and the cyberwaves of wfmu.org to help that most fantastic of radio stations raise money. For three hours, we will join Pseu Braun and her co-host Gaylord Fields. Anybody who pledges enough money to the station during those three hours gets to make a request, and we will try to play it. If you've heard it before, you know that there's no spectacle in the world of entertainment quite like it. Don't miss it. All the details you need are at http://wfmu.org/ --Ira the WFMU show archive might be of interest also http://www.wfmu.org/recentarchives.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. From eddie.duffy@... Sun Mar 18 15:03:06 2007 From: eddie.duffy@... (Ed Duffy) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:03:06 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, crap! Bought myself a brand-new DAB radio last week, and completely forgot to grab these shows. I caught the Monday 'flotsam' show with Listen Again, but does any kind soul have an MP3 of the actual Desert Island Discs show they can upload? Hopefully, Ed. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Dean" wrote: > > > on Desert Island Discs (BBC Radio4 Sunday 11th March 2007 at 11:15 to 12:00, > > repeated 16th at 09:45) > > > > plus ... > > Andy Kershaw on BBC Radio Three on Monday 12th March 2007 at 23:15 to 01:00 > > Desert Island Discs: The Flotsam. > > Andy presents some of the CDs from his shortlist of 300 that did not make it > > into his selection for Desert Island Discs on BBC Radio 4. > > > > (Remember - Andy's show recently moved from Sunday to Monday) > > Remember also that Desert Island Discs is not available on BBC Listen Again. > (but Monday show is) > > (thanks for the reminder) > > andy > From martinw@... Sun Mar 18 18:05:07 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:05:07 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 14:03 18/03/2007, you wrote: >Ah, crap! Bought myself a brand-new DAB radio last week, and >completely forgot to grab these shows. I caught the Monday 'flotsam' >show with Listen Again, but does any kind soul have an MP3 of the >actual Desert Island Discs show they can upload? > >Hopefully, > >Ed. You can at least see what Andy chose here http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs_20070311.shtml From thebarguest@... Mon Mar 19 11:29:00 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:29:00 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway Message-ID: Very interesting docu. I was quite surprised to find that AK is from quite a middle-class background (both parents were teachers, he went to a grammar school and university). Very likeable chap, affable. Sadly, they didn't explain why AK lives in the Isle of Man. His fave music is a mixed, eccentric bag. A big Dolly Parton fan, he at least loves The Clash. I got the impression he likes old blues/americana/world-music more than 70'/80's new wave and punk. And that Neil Young song he played at the start of his following "Fave songs of all time" show was so soporific, dreary and long that it alone could have been a contributory factor to the advent of punk rock ! Regards, Walter Wall --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 14:03 18/03/2007, you wrote: > > >Ah, crap! Bought myself a brand-new DAB radio last week, and > >completely forgot to grab these shows. I caught the Monday 'flotsam' > >show with Listen Again, but does any kind soul have an MP3 of the > >actual Desert Island Discs show they can upload? > > > >Hopefully, > > > >Ed. > > You can at least see what Andy chose here > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs_20070311.shtml > From hubcity@... Mon Mar 19 12:45:53 2007 From: hubcity@... (hubcity@...) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:45:53 -0400 Subject: [OT] [Altrok] Update #151: Support Your Local Web Radio Station! Message-ID: <0JF5002MIFCH62H0@...> Folks, Firstly, the important stuff: Altrok Radio is at http://www.altrokradio.com Please remember to tune in whenever you can - every hour you listen turns into more visibility for the station; we show up higher in search listings, and such like that. And if you'd like to help us keep the stream running, check out the advertisers if they appeal to you; your interest in them actually helps fund us. Here's what you need to know about what we play: it's our opinion that there's no such thing as a "golden age" - in fact, "golden ages" are overrated by definition. They occur whenever things are good for long enough that pundits step back and say "wow, things are pretty great right now". Problem is, when the pundits have the time to say things like that, it means things have slowed down a bit...in fact, it's almost always an immediate precursor to things not being so good anymore. 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Mon Mar 19 14:30:03 2007 From: willowct@... (Willow) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway Message-ID: <498496.41715.qm@...> it might sound ridiculous but they should put the interview up without the music because the interview in between is the most intersting bit. --------------------------------- Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. From willowct@... Mon Mar 19 14:33:21 2007 From: willowct@... (Willow) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:33:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: off topic/ book of the week Message-ID: <799208.35117.qm@...> Did anyone listen to book of the week last week. Ali Dezai's 'Not one of us'? also may i ask - how many people are on this list? any of them in Reading? any of them in Liverpool? Cheers Willow --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! Mail � Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. From koogy@... Mon Mar 19 14:55:06 2007 From: koogy@... (Andrew Dean) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:55:06 +0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: <498496.41715.qm@...> References: <498496.41715.qm@...> Message-ID: Willow writes: > it might sound ridiculous but they should put the interview up without the music because the interview in between is the most intersting bit. i read somewhere that the problem with DID that stops them putting it on Listen Again is the format, the concept and not the music. but, yes, the music was almost unimportant (and, in places, surprisingly uninteresting). (i had to tape the friday repeat of this as i was at work. just saying, like... i still have peel's on tape somewhere too) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs_20070311.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/andykershaw/pip/j3gq8/ (this: The Four Brothers: Uchandifunga (4.32) from the flotsam show was actually on my 'Best Of 2006'* compilation that i did for friends at christmas. *purchases, not releases) andy From pbryant98@... Mon Mar 19 15:25:58 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] off topic/ book of the week In-Reply-To: <799208.35117.qm@...> Message-ID: <916731.47081.qm@...> I heard the first part... fairly depressing stuff! --- Willow wrote: > Did anyone listen to book of the week last week. Ali > Dezai's 'Not one of us'? > > also may i ask - how many people are on this list? > any of them in Reading? > any of them in Liverpool? > > Cheers > > Willow > > > > > --------------------------------- > All New Yahoo! Mail � Tired of unwanted email > come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From phil@... Mon Mar 19 19:55:25 2007 From: phil@... (philgarty) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:55:25 -0000 Subject: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's up on Usenet in alt.binaries.sounds.radio.bbc --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Duffy" wrote: > > Ah, crap! Bought myself a brand-new DAB radio last week, and > completely forgot to grab these shows. I caught the Monday 'flotsam' > show with Listen Again, but does any kind soul have an MP3 of the > actual Desert Island Discs show they can upload? > > Hopefully, > > Ed. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Dean" wrote: > > > > > on Desert Island Discs (BBC Radio4 Sunday 11th March 2007 at 11:15 > to 12:00, > > > repeated 16th at 09:45) > > > > > > plus ... > > > Andy Kershaw on BBC Radio Three on Monday 12th March 2007 at 23:15 > to 01:00 > > > Desert Island Discs: The Flotsam. > > > Andy presents some of the CDs from his shortlist of 300 that did > not make it > > > into his selection for Desert Island Discs on BBC Radio 4. > > > > > > (Remember - Andy's show recently moved from Sunday to Monday) > > > > Remember also that Desert Island Discs is not available on BBC > Listen Again. > > (but Monday show is) > > > > (thanks for the reminder) > > > > andy > > > From martinw@... Mon Mar 19 17:15:19 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:15:19 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:29 19/03/2007, you wrote: >Very interesting docu. I was quite surprised to find that >AK is from quite a middle-class background (both parents were >teachers, he went to a grammar school and university). He first came to fame as the Social Secretary at Leeds University where he booked and got to know a lot of bands. When he left he was Billy Bragg's roadie for awhile before joining Radio 1 > Very >likeable chap, affable. If the stories are true only when you agree with him >Sadly, they didn't explain why AK >lives in the Isle of Man. He's a motorcycling nut and has always gone to the Isle Of Man for the races. Took Peel with him a couple of times >His fave music is a mixed, eccentric bag. A big Dolly Parton fan, >he at least loves The Clash. I got the impression he likes old >blues/americana/world-music more than 70'/80's new wave and punk. The only punk bands he was interested in where those who took a political stance like Clash and Gang Of Four. He's always liked Dylan/Springsteen/Neil Young martinw From pbryant98@... Mon Mar 19 22:02:17 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw is castaway Message-ID: <20070319210217.74040.qmail@...> --- Martin Wheatley wrote: > The only punk bands he was interested in where those > who > took a political stance like Clash and Gang Of Four. and...er... Crass?? pb ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From martinw@... Mon Mar 19 22:36:59 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:36:59 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Andy Kershaw is castaway In-Reply-To: <20070319210217.74040.qmail@...> References: <20070319210217.74040.qmail@...> Message-ID: At 21:02 19/03/2007, you wrote: >--- Martin Wheatley ><martinw@...> >wrote: > > The only punk bands he was interested in where those > > who > > took a political stance like Clash and Gang Of Four. > >and...er... Crass?? > >pb Bit early for Andy I would have thought! More accurate to say he didn't like punk bands who were not political but necessarily all who were. I suspect that whether or not they played for him in Leeds had a big influence! martinw From pbryant98@... Mon Mar 19 22:46:59 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Popmatters article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <218137.80031.qm@...> http://www.popmatters.com/music/columns/ellis/041229.shtml ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From martinw@... Tue Mar 20 11:49:18 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:49:18 +0000 Subject: John Peel's Night Ride, 6 March 1968 In-Reply-To: <20070309124414.35827.qmail@...> References: <20070309124414.35827.qmail@...> Message-ID: For those not in the tree this show is now up for download as an mp3 http://www.divshare.com/download/255514-d8e Its 94M At 12:44 09/03/2007, Paul wrote >Hi y'all > >You may be interested in this show - it was the first >of Peel's Night Ride spots, which lasted 55 minutes, >from 12.05 to 1 pm. Peel chose the ISB as his very >first studio guests. This was the programme : > >I Can take you to the Sun by The Misunderstood > >Peel introduces the ISB and says they've just recorded >their new album HBD which will be released soon and is >the best thing he's heard since Sgt Pepper. ("Mind you >I say that about every lp") > >You get brighter - ISB > >A Joyful Northern Air - North Vietnamese folk >instrumental played on a zither. > >Adrian Mitchell (poet) reading "Take Stalk Between >Teeth" > >Possession - Iron Butterfly > >Adrian Mitchell talks about the Red Paint movement, >which is protesting against the Vietnam war by daubing >red paint on any building associated with the war in >some way > >Shades of Orange - The End (written and produced by >Bill Wyman) > >All too much for me - ISB > >Sonata in E Minor by Scarlatti > >Ducks on a Pond - ISB > >Adrian Mitchell reads "To You" > >Sparrow - Simon & Garfunkel ("one of my favourite >records") > >Cold Black Night - Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac > >Incomprehensibly named instrumental played on the >veena and tamboura > >Goodnight - ISB > >Announcement - next week in the studio - Pete Roche >and Tyrannosaurus Rex. > >pb From eddie.duffy@... Tue Mar 20 12:29:41 2007 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:29:41 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] John Peel's Night Ride, 6 March 1968 In-Reply-To: References: <20070309124414.35827.qmail@...> Message-ID: <2586.83.104.185.49.1174390181.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> Wow, thanks Martin! (What tree was this, BTW?) Even though I only have 3 or 4 of them, these Night Rides have become some of my favourite Peel shows. So I'll definitely be grabbing this one tonight. Nice one! Ed. > For those not in the tree this show is now up for download as an mp3 > > http://www.divshare.com/download/255514-d8e > > Its 94M > > > At 12:44 09/03/2007, Paul wrote > >>Hi y'all >> >>You may be interested in this show - it was the first >>of Peel's Night Ride spots, which lasted 55 minutes, >>from 12.05 to 1 pm. Peel chose the ISB as his very >>first studio guests. This was the programme : >> >>I Can take you to the Sun by The Misunderstood >> >>Peel introduces the ISB and says they've just recorded >>their new album HBD which will be released soon and is >>the best thing he's heard since Sgt Pepper. ("Mind you >>I say that about every lp") >> >>You get brighter - ISB >> >>A Joyful Northern Air - North Vietnamese folk >>instrumental played on a zither. >> >>Adrian Mitchell (poet) reading "Take Stalk Between >>Teeth" >> >>Possession - Iron Butterfly >> >>Adrian Mitchell talks about the Red Paint movement, >>which is protesting against the Vietnam war by daubing >>red paint on any building associated with the war in >>some way >> >>Shades of Orange - The End (written and produced by >>Bill Wyman) >> >>All too much for me - ISB >> >>Sonata in E Minor by Scarlatti >> >>Ducks on a Pond - ISB >> >>Adrian Mitchell reads "To You" >> >>Sparrow - Simon & Garfunkel ("one of my favourite >>records") >> >>Cold Black Night - Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac >> >>Incomprehensibly named instrumental played on the >>veena and tamboura >> >>Goodnight - ISB >> >>Announcement - next week in the studio - Pete Roche >>and Tyrannosaurus Rex. >> >>pb > > From martinw@... Tue Mar 20 16:59:50 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:59:50 +0000 Subject: [peel] John Peel's Night Ride, 6 March 1968 In-Reply-To: <2586.83.104.185.49.1174390181.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104 .185.49> References: <20070309124414.35827.qmail@...> <2586.83.104.185.49.1174390181.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> Message-ID: At 11:29 20/03/2007, you wrote: >Wow, thanks Martin! (What tree was this, BTW?) This started in the ISB group (thanks Paul and Shane) and I crossposted the mp3 address here as it was likely to be of interest The big significance of this prog was that it was the first Peel Night Ride martinw From eddie.duffy@... Tue Mar 20 18:09:41 2007 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:09:41 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] John Peel's Night Ride, 6 March 1968 In-Reply-To: References: <20070309124414.35827.qmail@...> <2586.83.104.185.49.1174390181.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> Message-ID: <2497.83.104.185.49.1174410581.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> > This started in the ISB group (thanks Paul and Shane) and > I crossposted the mp3 address here as it was likely to > be of interest > > The big significance of this prog was that it was the > first Peel Night Ride > > martinw > > Ah, thanks, that makes sense. I'm a relative newbie to ISB myself, having only recently purchased "Hangman". I still remember singing "A Very Cellular Song" at school though, thanks to a hippie music teacher! Ed. From tomb242@... Tue Mar 20 18:28:24 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:28:24 -0000 Subject: Drowning Craze Peel Session Message-ID: Hi all - I am trying to help a mate locate a copy of Drowning Craze Peel Session from 1982. I know it is a long shot but does anyone have a copy, preferably in lossless format or on CD? Details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1980s/1982/Jan02drowningcraze/ Thanks for any assistance you can give. Tom From pbryant98@... Tue Mar 20 21:46:20 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Peel's Night Ride, 6 March 1968 In-Reply-To: <2497.83.104.185.49.1174410581.QVVGFWgAQUt7.squirrel@83.104.185.49> Message-ID: <20070320204620.14680.qmail@...> --- Eddie Duffy wrote: > Ah, thanks, that makes sense. I'm a relative newbie > to ISB myself, having > only recently purchased "Hangman". I still remember > singing "A Very > Cellular Song" at school though, thanks to a hippie > music teacher! You have a treat in store called "Wee tam and the Big Huge" - take my tip and bend your plastic for that one! pb ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From mar.celle@... Tue Mar 20 22:13:57 2007 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:13:57 +0100 Subject: Tracklisting Another Nice Mess 20th March 2007 Message-ID: <000c01c76b34$af5b34d0$9e00000a@PC154981710422> ANOTHER NICE MESS ‘’Indispensable listening’’ ‘’If you’re missing Peel, allow this to feed you’’ ‘’Marcelle could have been a great teacher in a class of ‘curiosity’!’’ (Mick Patrick, Scotland) (Sarah Nelson, England) (Peter-Max Jacobsen, Denmark) DFM Radio, 20th March 2007 Hostess: Marcelle van Hoof LISTEN LIVE online: www.dfm.nu every Tuesday between 19-22 hours CET (Dutch time) / 18-21 hours BST (UK time) LISTEN AT ANY OTHER TIME via www.anothernicemess.com WEBSITE: www.anothernicemess.com (For PLAYLISTS, LISTENING AGAIN, DOWNLOADING PREVIOUS SHOWS, REVIEWS, INFORMATION, CONTACT ADDRESS and more) For REQUESTS/BOOKINGS mail Marcelle at: info@... She broadcasts from home, so she might play your requested song (almost) instantly! ARTISTS / LABELS are welcome to send their records/cd's/mixes to: Another Nice Mess c/o Marcelle van Hoof H. Coenradistraat 4 hs 1063 XR Amsterdam Netherlands 3-hour special: Marcelle: dj-gig in Berlin, 15th March 2007 1. Signature tune: Jon E Cash/untitled 2nd track on b-side 12'': Kamikaze ( www.dablackops.com) 2. Special: Marcelle: dj-gig in Berlin, 15th March 2007 Artists and presidents used and abused in the mix are amongst others: Backwena tribe, Hey-O-Hansen, Cyne, Slaughter Mob, Vivien Goldman, Alpha & Omega, Blackmass Plastics, Anthony Red Rose, El-Haca feat. Rqm., Renaldo & The Loaf, Monkeytribe, Mick Harris, Eraldo Bernocchi, The Fall, Quio Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Miss Kittin, Modeselektor, DJ Maxximus, Pinch, Antipop Consortium, Hakan Lidbo, Skream, DJ/Rupture, Andy Capp, Sister Nancy, Jerry Abstract, Spokes Mashiyani, The Specials, DJ C & Quality Diamond, Rebel MC feat. Top Cat, Africa Djolé, George W. Bush, Tenor Saw, E.S.G., Random Trio Productions, Erase Errata, Kromestar, Gregory Isaacs, Mundo, Ghislain Poirier, The Crooked Man, Chips For The Poor, Niederflur Upcoming specials: 27th March: The Suicidal Birds live Also: Mudboy, Zea dj-set, Peter Grummich, Phon.O, DJ Scotch Egg: dj-set, Ergo Phizmiz Marcelle deejays: 23rd March: Paard van Troje, The Hague 2nd April: Occii, Amsterdam 14th April: OT301, Amsterdam [You are receiving this Another Nice Mess playlist because you either subscribed to the mailing list and/or we have something in common – Good Underground Music! If you no longer want to receive this playlist then please reply with the words 'Unsubscribe' in the subject box]. T From thebarguest@... Thu Mar 22 00:43:58 2007 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:43:58 -0000 Subject: Drowning Craze Peel Session In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don't have this recording, but it does bemuse me somewhat, this "lossless format" preference / snobbery / myth. A good quality mp3 (ie at or above 192/44, EAC-ripped) is as hi-fi to 99% of human ears as yer raw cd ! To believe otherwise is to fall for an "urban myth" ... Try a "blindfold test" with a friend if you don't believe me. Nothing personal, please forgive me ... Yours, Sniggery Wood aka (spirit of Martin Hannett) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" wrote: > > Hi all - I am trying to help a mate locate a copy of Drowning Craze > Peel Session from 1982. I know it is a long shot but does anyone have > a copy, preferably in lossless format or on CD? > > Details here: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1980s/1982/Jan02drowning craze/ > > Thanks for any assistance you can give. > > Tom > From tomb242@... Thu Mar 22 10:12:57 2007 From: tomb242@... (Tom Bartlett) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:12:57 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Drowning Craze Peel Session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46024899.5060108@...> It's not snobbery at all. It is wanted for a DJ night and my guess is that a CDR or Lossless format from a cassette recording would be the best option.I cannot tell the difference on my headphones abx'ing between a lossless file and a mp3 at lame -V2 . But I can when hearing it played in a club! Thanks for your response and opinion. thebarguest wrote: > > Don't have this recording, but it does bemuse me somewhat, this > "lossless format" preference / snobbery / myth. > A good quality mp3 (ie at or above 192/44, EAC-ripped) is > as hi-fi to 99% of human ears as yer raw cd ! > To believe otherwise is to fall for an "urban myth" ... > Try a "blindfold test" with a friend if you don't believe > me. > Nothing personal, please forgive me ... > > Yours, > Sniggery Wood aka (spirit of Martin Hannett) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com , "Tom" > wrote: > > > > Hi all - I am trying to help a mate locate a copy of Drowning Craze > > Peel Session from 1982. I know it is a long shot but does anyone > have > > a copy, preferably in lossless format or on CD? > > > > Details here: > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/sessions/1980s/1982/Jan02drowning > > craze/ > > > > Thanks for any assistance you can give. > > > > Tom > > > > From colin_ellis@... Fri Mar 23 12:49:31 2007 From: colin_ellis@... (Colin Ellis) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:49:31 +0000 Subject: John Peel's Night Ride, 6 March 1968 Message-ID: More of Peel's 1968 Perfumed Garden columns from International Times (with references to Night Ride) here: http://radiolondon.co.uk/otherwaves/peelradioone/peelclippings4.html _________________________________________________________________ Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes. http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/ From paul@... Fri Mar 23 13:27:15 2007 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:27:15 -0000 Subject: BBC 4 TV tonight - R&B - including one of Peel's narrated Rock Family Trees Message-ID: <042401c76d46$97b442e0$0202a8c0@...> All on BBC 4 (TV) tonight. The Beat Room Time: 20:30 to 21:00 The BBC's legendary pop performance show from 1964 with an R+B influence, featuring John Lee Hooker and the Groundhogs, Tom Jones and The Kinks. Long John Baldry Time: 21:00 to 21:50 In the Shadow of the Blues The story of the pioneering British musician whose enthusiasm for blues in the late 50s and 60s inspired The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Eric Clapton amongst many others. Baldry also was responsible for discovering Rod Stewart after he saw him busking, and Elton John. In later years he moved Canada, yet continued to tour and record right up to his death in 2005. Rock Family Trees Time: 21:50 to 22:40 The British R+B Boom John Peel narrates the story of the British R+B boom of the 60s, when young people, tired of home-grown pop music started listening to American blues. This was absorbed and channeled into a new type of rock. Including contributions from Bluesmen Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce, Paul Jones, Manfred Mann and John Mayall. Contains some strong language. John Mayall Time: 22:40 to 23:40 40 Years Of The Blues Tracing John Mayall's colourful and highly influential career culminating in his 70th birthday reunion concert, held earlier this year, when he played for the first time again after 38 years, with Eric Clapton and Mick Taylor at the UNICEF concert in Liverpool. Strong language. Excerpts taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=17774 Copyright GipsyMedia Ltd. Paul From sdmaclean@... Fri Mar 23 19:00:00 2007 From: sdmaclean@... (sdmaclean@...) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:00:00 +0000 Subject: That first NightRide, Kris Drever Message-ID: <032320071800.29387.460415A00009CB14000072CB2207022933020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> The NR mp3 mentioned here featured a poem read by Adrian Mitchell with the last line of ".... Sunday Express" with exactly the same tune and almost identical lyrics to John Cooper Clarke's Electric Circus track (title?) with the line "never get a nipple in the Daily Express". Oh how I chuckled. Anyone here got the Kris Drever LP? I heartily recommend it, best LP I have heard in years. Reminds me of Laura Cantrell's first, a new singer with songs written by a whole host of unknown (to me at least) writers, and several gems. The chorus of Poor Man's Son gives me goose bumps every time I hear it (and I mean every time ;)) Oh, and my last, ongoing, thought. Anyone seen the 84 FF on mp3 yet? Stuart From martinw@... Fri Mar 23 21:26:30 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:26:30 +0000 Subject: New Radio 2 Evening Schedule Coming Message-ID: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03_march/23/radio2.shtml From sploozed@... Sun Mar 25 03:11:19 2007 From: sploozed@... (Mark) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:11:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] New Radio 2 Evening Schedule Coming Message-ID: <414602.2746.qm@...> Interesting. Shame about Best of Jazz. I've always liked that show. In fact, it's now the only show I listened to as a child and still listen to. Humphrey Lyttelton always manages to convince me he's actually listening to the records he plays. I always felt that about John. And I feel the same about Marcelle. ___________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From hubcity@... Mon Mar 26 13:29:31 2007 From: hubcity@... (hubcity@...) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:29:31 -0400 Subject: [OT] [Altrok] Update #150: Support Your Local Web Radio Station! Message-ID: <0JFI00CSZD97W380@...> Firstly, the important stuff: Altrok Radio is at http://www.altrokradio.com Please remember to tune in whenever you can - every hour you listen turns into more visibility for the station; we show up higher in search listings, and such like that. And if you'd like to help us keep the stream running, check out the advertisers if they appeal to you; your interest actually helps fund us. Now then, in addition to the outstanding Altrok Radio music mix that got us an Editor's Pick nod at Live365 and at About.com, we've added features we know you'll like... Thursdays at 11:30am Eastern (and repeated at 9:00pm - both new times!), you get to hear me showcase the new music we've added this week on the Altrok Radio FM Showcase. New stuff, classic stuff, and Jeff Raspe with his Altrok Radio Underground Pick Of The Week... And on Friday, it's Altrok's Eighties Friday: music from the eighties that mattered then AND now. An eight hour playlist that features some of the best that decade had to offer, drawing from all the music that was available at the time (yes, even from the seventies.) As if that weren't enough, Fridays at 11:30am Eastern (and repeated at 9:00pm) you'll find New York's own DJ Shred and her hand-picked set filled with classics from the darker and more challenging corners of the Eighties. But for now - we've got songs to let you know about. This week, our Grinders (the stuff we play heavily) include music from: - Brakes - The Blakes - Future Of The Left - Nine Inch Nails - The Rakes - You Remind Me Of Rasputin Plus we've got newly-added music: - Arctic Monkeys - Brianstorm - Au Revoir Simone - A Violent Yet Flammable World - Andrew Bird - Heretics - The Black Angels - Bloodhounds On My Trail - Bobby Cook - Gone So Far - Datarock - Fa-Fa-Fa - Drive-By Argument - The Sega Method - Fanfarlo - You Are One of The Few Outsiders Who Really Understands Us - The Frames - Sad Songs - Modest Mouse - People As Places As People - R.E.M. - #9 Dream - The Sammies - Trainwreck - Voltage Union - All Who You Know - Voxtrot - Kid Gloves Our Featured Classics: - Blondie - Dreaming - Dramarama - Scenario - P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water - The Human League - Being Boiled - Hurrah! - Sweet Sanity - Killing Joke - Seeing Red - LCD Soundsystem - Daft Punk Is Playing At My House - Payola$ - Eyes Of A Stranger - R.E.M. - Gardening At Night - Tears For Fears - Mad World As always, thanks for listening! - Sean Carolan Altrok Radio On your computer right now at http://www.altrokradio.com On the radio Fridays at 10pm, at 90.5 The Night From peel@yahoogroups.com Mon Mar 26 23:23:55 2007 From: peel@yahoogroups.com (peel@yahoogroups.com) Date: 26 Mar 2007 21:23:55 -0000 Subject: New poll for peel Message-ID: <1174944235.126.43999.w108@yahoogroups.com> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the peel group: Choose your top three Peel Sessions from 1985-2004 by bands who only did just the one session o AC Temple o Attwenger o Bailterspace o Bongwater o Cha Cha Cohen o Cornelius o EZ T o Godspeed You Black Emperor! o The Hepburns o Lance Gambit Trio o MC Buzz B o MC 900-Foot Jesus & DJ Zero o Mr Ray's Wig World o Mum o Propellerheads o Sultans of Ping FC o Teenage Fanclub o The Ugly Music Show o Velocette o The Would-Bes o Zimbabwe Cha Cha Cha Kings To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/surveys?id=2469448 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From peel@yahoogroups.com Mon Mar 26 23:38:44 2007 From: peel@yahoogroups.com (peel@yahoogroups.com) Date: 26 Mar 2007 21:38:44 -0000 Subject: New poll for peel Message-ID: <1174945124.110.45121.w123@yahoogroups.com> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the peel group: Choose your Top 3 Peel Sessions from 1967-1984 by bands who only did just the one session o Big in Japan o The Cortinas o Einsturzende Neubauten o Little Red Duffle Coats o New Age Steppers o Prince Far I and Creation Rebel o Protex o Que Bono o Short Commercial Break o Son House o Testcard F o Twa Toots o Wayne County and the Electric Chairs o Laurel Aitken o White and Torch o Dr Strangely Strange o Batti Mamzelle o Ann Peebles To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/surveys?id=2469456 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From peel@yahoogroups.com Mon Mar 26 23:40:10 2007 From: peel@yahoogroups.com (peel@yahoogroups.com) Date: 26 Mar 2007 21:40:10 -0000 Subject: New poll for peel Message-ID: <1174945210.67.72420.w117@yahoogroups.com> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the peel group: Suggest your own favourite "ONE SESSION WONDER" o you choose o you choose again o and again To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/surveys?id=2469457 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From ken_garner@... Mon Mar 26 23:52:04 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:52:04 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: Apologies, I did not realise my creating them would trigger all those messages. Anyway, one little feature we want to get in the peel sessions book is occasional boxes on what we're calling "one session wonders" - bands who only did one Peel session but which, for one reason or another, was memorable. I've suggested some you can vote for: some that I like, some I don't, and some I have no idea what they sounded like at all. But I'm open to other suggestions. We need about 20 for the book. There are at least 4 in each of the two main pools I've created which I think are dead certs, but I'm not telling you which. You tell me. Thanks KG PS. The author and publisher reserve the right to completely disregard the votes of the electorate and install their own candidates, especially if no-one votes for The Would-Bes. From rockerq@... Tue Mar 27 00:29:20 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:29:20 -0000 Subject: New poll for peel In-Reply-To: <1174945210.67.72420.w117@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Ok howabout: The Groove Farm (became Beatnik Filmstars) The Fizzbombs Eugenius Blurt The Wild Swans Big Black The Charlottes The Luddites Skat (ex - Chefs) Stitched-back foot airman Fish City Four (Housemartins in acoustic mode) Cheers! Rocker From pbryant98@... Tue Mar 27 00:36:40 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <382377.45268.qm@...> --- ken garner wrote: > Apologies, I did not realise my creating them would > trigger all those > messages. Anyway, one little feature we want to get > in the peel > sessions book is occasional boxes on what we're > calling "one session > wonders" - bands who only did one Peel session but > which, for one > reason or another, was memorable. My vote for the one session wonder is John Fahey, 1969. pb ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From robfleay@... Tue Mar 27 10:35:45 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 8:35:45 +0000 Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: <20070327083545.JZFC219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> I remember that Godspeed You Black Emperor session being particularly astonishing - I'd not heard them before and then suddenly there was this epic 18 minute or so orchestral onslaught! I never rated the Big Black peel session all that highly - they didn't record it at Maida Vale did they? Wasn't it done in Chicago and shipped over? My own personal favourite one session wonders were The Capitols - I know nothing about them, never saw any of their records but it was the first session I ever taped - purely on a whim. 5 tracks, female singer, great tunes.. > > From: "ken garner" > Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 09:52:04 GMT > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... > > Apologies, I did not realise my creating them would trigger all those > messages. Anyway, one little feature we want to get in the peel > sessions book is occasional boxes on what we're calling "one session > wonders" - bands who only did one Peel session but which, for one > reason or another, was memorable. I've suggested some you can vote for: > some that I like, some I don't, and some I have no idea what they > sounded like at all. But I'm open to other suggestions. We need about > 20 for the book. There are at least 4 in each of the two main pools > I've created which I think are dead certs, but I'm not telling you > which. You tell me. Thanks > > KG > > PS. The author and publisher reserve the right to completely disregard > the votes of the electorate and install their own candidates, > especially if no-one votes for The Would-Bes. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From bingoandsnork@... Tue Mar 27 12:23:26 2007 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:23:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: <382377.45268.qm@...> Message-ID: <294420.99805.qm@...> Blimey, I didn't even know that MC Buzz B did a session. Does anyone have a date for that one? I think I need to hear it. Otherwise I would have to make a mention for the Kiss AMC session, holds a lot of good memories for me does that one... Paul Bryant wrote: --- ken garner wrote: > Apologies, I did not realise my creating them would > trigger all those > messages. Anyway, one little feature we want to get > in the peel > sessions book is occasional boxes on what we're > calling "one session > wonders" - bands who only did one Peel session but > which, for one > reason or another, was memorable. My vote for the one session wonder is John Fahey, 1969. pb __________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 --------------------------------- What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. From martinw@... Tue Mar 27 13:29:13 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:29:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: <382377.45268.qm@...> References: <382377.45268.qm@...> Message-ID: At 23:36 26/03/2007, you wrote: >My vote for the one session wonder is John Fahey, >1969. > >pb And mine would be The Dodgems Lord Lucan Is Still Missing! martinw From ken_garner@... Tue Mar 27 14:30:45 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:30:45 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: Thanks for all the suggestions. But I stupidly pasted a few of them into the 67-84 poll and promptly lost the votes made already. Didn't read the instructions properly. Sorry, I won't fiddle again, but will save up your other new suggestions and put them in a new poll with a different name in a week or so. ER, those of you who voted in 67-84 already, would you mind dipping in again? profound apologies. Ken PS. can't find one in my info by The Groove Farm, sorry. Fizzbombs, Eugenius, Stitched back foot airmen were not for Peel , but other shows, according to my records, sorry. I'm discounting Housemartins as the Fish City 4 (or was it 5?) because, althugh it's a story, it's hardly those people's only Peel appearance, which is the point. The Wild Sawns session was stupendous, seemingly everyone agrees on that, but they had done their first previously for Jensen and did another for Janice Long afterwards, so, again, I'm not sure they really fit the spirit of the idea, which, to be more precise, is bands who made their first and just about only Radio 1 live appearance in a Peel Session. John Fahey did one for Kershaw in the late 80s, so maybe... PPS. before I stupidly wiped the first half dozen votes out, I did spot that some of you had already voted for THE NEW AGE STEPPERS. Now this is useful. One or two correspondents wrote to me after In Session Tonight came out citing this as one I had missed, suggesting it was broadcast perhaps sometime in Summer 1981. But neither I nor BBC producers or archivists can find any documentary or audio trace of this session. No session sheet, no file, no tapes. There is not even a contract carbon at Written Archives. Nor does it show up, therefore, yet, on my master day by day calendar. All I know is gleaned from an unofficial On-U Sounds tribute site which claims to identify some of the tracks and that the line-up was huge! Does anyone, especially those of you who voted for it, have any other information about it all you can recall, which might lead me to at least pin down the broadcast date and line-up? Cheers! From sploozed@... Tue Mar 27 15:27:26 2007 From: sploozed@... (Mark) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:27:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: John Fahey's unbroadcast session [inspired by Paul Bryant's post in poll thread] In-Reply-To: <382377.45268.qm@...> Message-ID: <292828.50018.qm@...> You know John Fahey actually did a much more recent session for Andy Kershaw. Andy thought too bad to use. I remember hinm saying in an explanation as to why there was no session one week. I've always wanted to hear that session. ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail � Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From martinw@... Tue Mar 27 16:44:56 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:44:56 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >PPS. before I stupidly wiped the first half dozen votes out, I did >spot that some of you had already voted for THE NEW AGE STEPPERS. Now >this is useful. One or two correspondents wrote to me after In >Session Tonight came out citing this as one I had missed, suggesting >it was broadcast perhaps sometime in Summer 1981. But neither I nor >BBC producers or archivists can find any documentary or audio trace >of this session. No session sheet, no file, no tapes. There is not >even a contract carbon at Written Archives. Nor does it show up, >therefore, yet, on my master day by day calendar. All I know is >gleaned from an unofficial On-U Sounds tribute site which claims to >identify some of the tracks and that the line-up was huge! Does >anyone, especially those of you who voted for it, have any other >information about it all you can recall, which might lead me to at >least pin down the broadcast date and line-up? Cheers! I taped it 18-8-83. No guarantee that was the original broadcast date might have been a repeat martinw From ken_garner@... Tue Mar 27 21:24:38 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:24:38 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: Thanks! That's great. Er, you don't by any chance still have that tape do you? Or a documentary record of it, which identifies the tracks? Does Peel read out the line-up on your tape? All details appreciated. It might have been 83 rather than 81, but anyway, now I have a TX date, if I look at that show's script on microfilm at written archives when I'm there after Easter, it should give any previous TX dates on page 1, with any luck. So many thanks again kg PS. why not check my updated list of 'unknown/uncertain' show dates attached under 'files' on the list website. Got any more tapes / diaries from the early 80s? These are still the 'lost' years, in terms of complete documentation at the BBC... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > >PPS. before I stupidly wiped the first half dozen votes out, I did > >spot that some of you had already voted for THE NEW AGE STEPPERS. Now > >this is useful. One or two correspondents wrote to me after In > >Session Tonight came out citing this as one I had missed, suggesting > >it was broadcast perhaps sometime in Summer 1981. But neither I nor > >BBC producers or archivists can find any documentary or audio trace > >of this session. No session sheet, no file, no tapes. There is not > >even a contract carbon at Written Archives. Nor does it show up, > >therefore, yet, on my master day by day calendar. All I know is > >gleaned from an unofficial On-U Sounds tribute site which claims to > >identify some of the tracks and that the line-up was huge! Does > >anyone, especially those of you who voted for it, have any other > >information about it all you can recall, which might lead me to at > >least pin down the broadcast date and line-up? Cheers! > > I taped it 18-8-83. No guarantee that was the original broadcast date > might have been a repeat > > martinw > From martinw@... Tue Mar 27 20:26:23 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:26:23 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 15:44 27/03/2007, you wrote: > > > >PPS. before I stupidly wiped the first half dozen votes out, I did > >spot that some of you had already voted for THE NEW AGE STEPPERS. Now > >this is useful. One or two correspondents wrote to me after In > >Session Tonight came out citing this as one I had missed, suggesting > >it was broadcast perhaps sometime in Summer 1981. But neither I nor > >BBC producers or archivists can find any documentary or audio trace > >of this session. No session sheet, no file, no tapes. There is not > >even a contract carbon at Written Archives. Nor does it show up, > >therefore, yet, on my master day by day calendar. All I know is > >gleaned from an unofficial On-U Sounds tribute site which claims to > >identify some of the tracks and that the line-up was huge! Does > >anyone, especially those of you who voted for it, have any other > >information about it all you can recall, which might lead me to at > >least pin down the broadcast date and line-up? Cheers! > >I taped it 18-8-83. No guarantee that was the original broadcast date >might have been a repeat > >martinw The answer to why you have a problem has just occurred to me Listening back I would say that it was almost certainly produced by Adrian Sherwood rather than one of the BBC's in house producers. Even if they used Maida Vale I can't see Adrian taking much notice of the BBC paperwork martinw From trevor_huddleston@... Tue Mar 27 21:31:04 2007 From: trevor_huddleston@... (Trevor Huddleston) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:31:04 +0100 Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ken, Following all these threads with delight! I still have very fond memories of the Frankie Goes to Hollywood Session before they became famous. The guitar bass and drums treatment of later hits always showed they could play without Trevor Horn's knobs. If anyone has an MP3 of this, I would love a copy/trade! Yours Trevor H >From: "ken garner" >Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [peel] Those new polls on the site... >Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:52:04 -0000 > >Apologies, I did not realise my creating them would trigger all those >messages. Anyway, one little feature we want to get in the peel >sessions book is occasional boxes on what we're calling "one session >wonders" - bands who only did one Peel session but which, for one >reason or another, was memorable. I've suggested some you can vote for: >some that I like, some I don't, and some I have no idea what they >sounded like at all. But I'm open to other suggestions. We need about >20 for the book. There are at least 4 in each of the two main pools >I've created which I think are dead certs, but I'm not telling you >which. You tell me. Thanks > >KG > >PS. The author and publisher reserve the right to completely disregard >the votes of the electorate and install their own candidates, >especially if no-one votes for The Would-Bes. > _________________________________________________________________ Match.com - Click Here To Find Singles In Your Area Today! http://msnuk.match.com/ From ken_garner@... Tue Mar 27 21:46:56 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:46:56 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: Yes, that's what my correspondents said to me in their letters back in the 90s after IST came out: Adrian Sherwood allegedly took in some 18 musicians and singers to Maida Vale (they are clear that this is where it happened), and took over the mixing and production himself, as one might imagine (I wonder if Dale Griffin was the session 'producer' that day, by any chance, hm?). Apparently Steve Barker of ON THE WIRE BBC Radio Lancashire knew something about it, but i've not been in touch with Steve for, well, er, decades, I have to admit... You say 'listening back...' that means you still have the tape. Looking forward to any more snippets you can give me! kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 15:44 27/03/2007, you wrote: > > > > > > > >PPS. before I stupidly wiped the first half dozen votes out, I did > > >spot that some of you had already voted for THE NEW AGE STEPPERS. Now > > >this is useful. One or two correspondents wrote to me after In > > >Session Tonight came out citing this as one I had missed, suggesting > > >it was broadcast perhaps sometime in Summer 1981. But neither I nor > > >BBC producers or archivists can find any documentary or audio trace > > >of this session. No session sheet, no file, no tapes. There is not > > >even a contract carbon at Written Archives. Nor does it show up, > > >therefore, yet, on my master day by day calendar. All I know is > > >gleaned from an unofficial On-U Sounds tribute site which claims to > > >identify some of the tracks and that the line-up was huge! Does > > >anyone, especially those of you who voted for it, have any other > > >information about it all you can recall, which might lead me to at > > >least pin down the broadcast date and line-up? Cheers! > > > >I taped it 18-8-83. No guarantee that was the original broadcast date > >might have been a repeat > > > >martinw > > The answer to why you have a problem has just occurred to me > Listening back I would say that it was almost certainly produced > by Adrian Sherwood rather than one of the BBC's in house > producers. Even if they used Maida Vale I can't see Adrian > taking much notice of the BBC paperwork > > martinw > From pbryant98@... Tue Mar 27 22:14:41 2007 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] John Fahey's unbroadcast session [inspired by Paul Bryant's post in poll thread] In-Reply-To: <292828.50018.qm@...> Message-ID: <289490.60001.qm@...> Fahey did a Kershaw session in 1987 as follows Andy Kershaw session 15 October 1987 St Patrick's Nightmare/Summertime Spanish Two-Step On the Sunny Side of the Ocean Dance of Death It was broadcast & if you want a copy drop me a line off list. The story goes that Richard Thompson was so disappointed by Fahey's session that he offered a session of his own to Kershaw for free to compensate listeners. Andy says something to this effect himself. Anyway, Fahey wasn't as his best but it ain't THAT bad. pb --- Mark wrote: > You know John Fahey actually did a much more recent > session for Andy Kershaw. Andy thought too bad to > use. > I remember hinm saying in an explanation as to why > there was no session one week. I've always wanted to > hear that session. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > All New Yahoo! Mail � Tired of unwanted email > come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From martinw@... Tue Mar 27 22:23:07 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:23:07 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 20:24 27/03/2007, you wrote: >Thanks! That's great. Er, you don't by any chance still have that >tape do you? Or a documentary record of it, which identifies the >tracks? Does Peel read out the line-up on your tape? All details >appreciated. It might have been 83 rather than 81, but anyway, now I >have a TX date, if I look at that show's script on microfilm at >written archives when I'm there after Easter, it should give any >previous TX dates on page 1, with any luck. So many thanks again > >kg The problem is that I didn't record the shows - just the session using the Pause button so I just have 15 minutes of music without Peel. I don't have the titles of the songs either although I can confirm there were 4 tracks - 2 with female vocals and 2 dubby tracks. >PS. why not check my updated list of 'unknown/uncertain' show dates >attached under 'files' on the list website. Got any more tapes / >diaries from the early 80s? These are still the 'lost' years, in >terms of complete documentation at the BBC... I'll do that martinw From ken_garner@... Wed Mar 28 00:52:45 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:52:45 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: ok, I understand, very common practice. Here's what Steve Barker (op. cit.) says about New Age Steppers' Peel session on that On-U sound site (http://www.skysaw.org/onu/artists/newagesteppers.html): "Although I cannot personally testify to this, it is rumoured that in 1980/1981 NAS, together with producer Adrian Sherwood, took seventeen musicians to the BBC Studios in Maida Vale to record a session for the John Peel radio show. Given the penury in which most musicians lived at the time, seventeen lots of Musician's Union fees would no doubt come in handy! "The set opens with Ari Up's off-centre vocals on the NAS version of Junior Byles' "Fade Away", a tune which the singer had cut for Channel One's JoJo Hookim some five years earlier but which had already achieved the status of a reggae standard. "Crazy Dreams and High Ideals" [Rhythm 59] is one of those songs, which counted as favourite down at On-U and was versioned over time numerous times by others and its author Mark Stewart. "A version of "Animal Space" was originally released as a UK 7" single by the Slits on the Human label and can also be found on their album "Return Of The Giant Slits" on CBS. Bim Sherman's "Love Forever" [Rhythm B13] is next for the Ari Up treatment with some great spooky on-key screams in the dub towards the track's close. The set is rounded off by a dub version of Viv Goldman's overtly political "Private Armies". Viv was better known as a music journalist, mainly for the New Musical Express (NME) music paper rather than a musician." But it might be that those track details are about their first album, not the Peel Session rumour of 81. And elsewhere on the same site, you find this: "New Age Steppers - Peel sessions 1983 / session tracks Tracks recorded for the John Peel show on BBC Radio 1 in the UK. Included 'Not A Nobody', 'The Riddle' and 'Send My Love' [Rhythm 29] which are available to download at www.dub.org.uk" which is different... can you relate any of that to what you've got there? kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 20:24 27/03/2007, you wrote: > > >Thanks! That's great. Er, you don't by any chance still have that > >tape do you? Or a documentary record of it, which identifies the > >tracks? Does Peel read out the line-up on your tape? All details > >appreciated. It might have been 83 rather than 81, but anyway, now I > >have a TX date, if I look at that show's script on microfilm at > >written archives when I'm there after Easter, it should give any > >previous TX dates on page 1, with any luck. So many thanks again > > > >kg > > The problem is that I didn't record the shows - just the session > using the Pause button so I just have 15 minutes of music > without Peel. I don't have the titles of the songs either although > I can confirm there were 4 tracks - 2 with female vocals and 2 dubby tracks. > > > > >PS. why not check my updated list of 'unknown/uncertain' show dates > >attached under 'files' on the list website. Got any more tapes / > >diaries from the early 80s? These are still the 'lost' years, in > >terms of complete documentation at the BBC... > > I'll do that > > martinw > From martinw@... Wed Mar 28 02:01:14 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:01:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >"New Age Steppers - Peel sessions 1983 / session tracks Tracks >recorded for the John Peel show on BBC Radio 1 in the UK. >Included 'Not A Nobody', 'The Riddle' and 'Send My Love' [Rhythm 29] >which are available to download at www.dub.org.uk" > >which is different... > >can you relate any of that to what you've got there? > >kg The 3 tracks at www.dub.org are 3 of the 4 tracks from the 1983 session. I can't even guess the title on the other one - they aren't that sort of band! The Steve Barker thing is confusing. He is describing tracks from that first album in 1981 but it reads like they did them for a session however I only have the one and I was a fairly consistent Peel listener then so I ought to remember it as it would have interested me a lot. Perhaps someone else knows of it martinw From ken_garner@... Wed Mar 28 10:58:43 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:58:43 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: I think you're right, this is my growing hunch about what happened: There was only one session, in 83, of the 4 tracks you have ('Send My Love' aka Send for Me with Ari Up ex-Slits on vocals, 'The Riddle' with Bim Sherman on vocals, plus 2 instrumentals called 'Not a Nobody' and something like 'Peel Session 83 part one'). Steve Barker's notes on the website after the first para are describing the first album, and editing/presentation on the site has simply confused the issue. The 1981 date is most probably an urban myth, most likely because either (i) Steve's done that thing we all do in which musically-treasured vague memories get accidentally post-dated a little bit farther into the past than they were in fact; or, less likely (ii) the band did record a session in 81, but it was never broadcast. Looking back at my original correspondence, the person who confidently dates it in 83 (not 81, as the others) and id's the track titles as both your tape and www.dub.org does, is a credited contributor to the on-u website. I don't have any NAS records, most of my on-U stuff is later 80s things like Dub Syndicate, the Barmy Army LP, Keith Le Blanc, Tackkead, Little Axe; though the only one I actually do dig out and play once in a while is Dr Pablo & the Dub Syndicate's 'North of the River Thames' On-U LP30. kg PS. seeing as you were a fairly consistent listener, I am VERY much looking forward to anything your tape collection turns up with reference to my unknown/incomplete(?) dates file (downloadable from the files section of the peel news group website, everyone: remember all corrections/additions received get an acknowledgement in the book), especially for 81-83! By the way, does the way you taped session tracks enable you to identify for a show what (normally) both sessions were, or if there were definitely only one that night? My data suggests 18/8/83 also featured the debut session first broadcast by So You Think You're A Cowboy?*, for example, as well as NAS. *who could, incidentally, be another nomination as a One Session Wonder, I note! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > > >"New Age Steppers - Peel sessions 1983 / session tracks Tracks > >recorded for the John Peel show on BBC Radio 1 in the UK. > >Included 'Not A Nobody', 'The Riddle' and 'Send My Love' [Rhythm 29] > >which are available to download at www.dub.org.uk" > > > >which is different... > > > >can you relate any of that to what you've got there? > > > >kg > > The 3 tracks at www.dub.org are 3 of the 4 tracks from > the 1983 session. I can't even guess the title on the other > one - they aren't that sort of band! > > The Steve Barker thing is confusing. He is describing tracks > from that first album in 1981 but it reads like they did them for > a session however I only have the one and I was a fairly > consistent Peel listener then so I ought to remember it as it > would have interested me a lot. > Perhaps someone else knows of it > > martinw > From mar.celle@... Wed Mar 28 11:29:01 2007 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:29:01 +0200 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: <001301c7711b$888f5920$a000000a@PC154981710422> The Capitols were a solo project of The Tank, then guitarist of the Nightingales, they released one 7'' single: Who Can Tell?/Every Time on Cake Records in 1987... you are welcome to request is for Another Nice Mess :-) Love Marcelle From robfleay@... Wed Mar 28 13:50:46 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:50:46 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: <20070328115046.OVXS17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Thank you! Consider it requested! Either side will do. That actually makes sense, as I remember hearing a Robert Lloyd b-side some years later that had the exact same tune as one of The Capitols session tracks but different words > The Capitols were a solo project of The Tank, then guitarist of the > Nightingales, they released one 7'' single: Who Can Tell?/Every Time on > Cake Records in 1987... you are welcome to request is for Another Nice > Mess :-) > > Love Marcelle > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From martinw@... Wed Mar 28 14:39:17 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:39:17 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ken wrote > or, less >likely (ii) the band did record a session in 81, but it was never >broadcast. Looking back at my original correspondence, the person who >confidently dates it in 83 (not 81, as the others) and id's the track >titles as both your tape and www.dub.org does, is a credited >contributor to the on-u website. It's just possible this is what happened. I can remember Peel saying on the radio that they would have had more reggae sessions but the BBC producers weren't good at getting them to sound right. The classic instance is that double session by Eek-A-Mouse for Jensen and Peel which sound really odd because all they did was crank up the bass and reggae production is a lot more subtle than that. A year later they'd definitely cracked it because the 1984 Eek-A-Mouse session sounds majestic So it is just possible that they went in to do a 1981 session with a BBC producer and it sounded so terrible they wouldn't let it go out. Hence Adrian Sherwood coming with them in 1983 I guess the only way of knowing for sure is to ask Mr Sherwood >PS. seeing as you were a fairly consistent listener, I am VERY much >looking forward to anything your tape collection turns up with >reference to my unknown/incomplete(?) dates file (downloadable from >the files section of the peel news group website, everyone: remember >all corrections/additions received get an acknowledgement in the >book), especially for 81-83! By the way, does the way you taped >session tracks enable you to identify for a show what (normally) both >sessions were, or if there were definitely only one that night? My >data suggests 18/8/83 also featured the debut session first broadcast >by So You Think You're A Cowboy?*, for example, as well as NAS. All of my sessions have been transcribed from the original tapes to MP3s so I can't make exact comparisons but the 'So You Think' session I have as dated 1-8-83 and as it is on the previous disc to the NAS one I'd guess that was right I have all the sessions filed under the band names so cross referencing with your list is going to take a little while as I will have to do searches on the dates My immediate thought is that most of your dates probably contain repeats I don't think he ever averaged more than a couple of new sessions a week He would have liked a new session every show I'm sure but the cost had to come out of the show's budget which wasn't very high. That was the impression I got anyway not having any inside knowledge. I do remember him complaining at one time that any record he got from the BBC library had to be paid for from the budget I'm not going to be able to tie this down as the dates I have are the dates I recorded the sessions which of course would only once for each one martinw From robfleay@... Wed Mar 28 15:06:06 2007 From: robfleay@... (RobF) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:06:06 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: <20070328130606.QAOU17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Just remembered a couple more one session wonders that have a special place in my heart... Hey Paulette - this session just got an official release on a retrospective CD http://www.myspace.com/heypaulettemusic This Poison - only did a couple of singles on The Wedding Present's Reception label but one cracking session (that sadly wasn't included on their retrospective CD that came out a couple of years back) Anyone going to vote for AC/DC? ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam From rockerq@... Wed Mar 28 22:53:49 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:53:49 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: > < Nightingales, they released one 7’’ single: Who Can Tell?/Every Time on Cake > Records in 1987….. you are welcome to request is for Another Nice Mess J > > Love Marcelle>> > I remember they were a top live band - played a gig in Birmingham around 1988 supporting them in my band The Rosehips Rocker From rockerq@... Wed Mar 28 23:52:55 2007 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:52:55 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: Apologies for multiple posts - AOL seems to have decided to turn my inbox into "Groundhog Day" - not sure why! Rocker From ken_garner@... Thu Mar 29 00:06:47 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:06:47 -0000 Subject: Those new polls on the site... Message-ID: All/any info gratefully received. Whenever (though no later than end May, please). You've already helped me correct something else tonight. You had 1/8/83 for the SYTYAC session. I dug out the session sheet because I had evidently missed that. And hidden away in tiny writing at the top of the sheet underneath a load of scribbled messages from Dale Griffin, it does indeed say, now I look very closely, '1st TX: 1/8/83'. So that's one less date to check, many thanks. I have entered in all the documented repeat dates for all sessions already. The shows I am querying are the ones left looking blank or possibly incomplete after everything from the official documentation (and my own records, Jon Small's fantastic old 92-02 sessions site, other websites, Radio Times, previous corrections, letters, etc) has been put in. Most of them will probably turn out to be either all-record shows, or shows genuinely with just the one session TX, new or repeat, I already know of. But there will be some surprises, some undocumented additional repeats, and some discoveries of otherwise 'missing' sessions, lost from the official archive, like New Age Steppers. These total dates still to pin down absolutely represent less than 6% of the total number of Peel shows so let's keep it in perspective, even though that's still over 300 dates. In short, any info confirming any session being broadcast on any date can be a revelation. In 24 hours you've helped me get a date for The New Age Steppers, and provided an earlier 1st TX date for SYTYAC. What other explosive nuggets are there lying in wait for me in your collection, I cannot but wonder? Although it would probably be too much to hope for another day as good as this one! Many thanks again, cheers kg PS. e-mail me off line, because it just occurred to me I might be able to send you my known data in a slightly different form that might make the checking process, if you're willing to do it, much much easier and quicker. Which years / what main period(s) does your collection cover? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > > > All of my sessions have been transcribed from the original tapes to > MP3s so I can't make exact comparisons but the 'So You Think' session > I have as dated 1-8-83 and as it is on the previous disc to the NAS > one I'd guess that was right > I have all the sessions filed under the band names so cross referencing > with your list is going to take a little while as I will have to do searches > on the dates > > My immediate thought is that most of your dates probably contain repeats > I don't think he ever averaged more than a couple of new sessions a week > He would have liked a new session every show I'm sure but the cost had > to come out of the show's budget which wasn't very high. That was the > impression I got anyway not having any inside knowledge. I do remember > him complaining at one time that any record he got from the BBC library > had to be paid for from the budget > I'm not going to be able to tie this down as the dates I have are the dates > I recorded the sessions which of course would only once for each one > > martinw > From ken_garner@... Thu Mar 29 00:47:30 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:47:30 -0000 Subject: apology: it's not my fault Message-ID: I only sent that last message once, I know, honest, and I did it from within the website. I think something's gone wonky at Yahoo, Stu... - ken From jimmystep@... Fri Mar 30 12:00:53 2007 From: jimmystep@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:00:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] apology: it's not my fault In-Reply-To: <1175241003.429.48522.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <821820.89010.qm@...> > 2a. apology: it's not my fault > Posted by: "ken garner" ken_garner@... > ken_garner > Date: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:06 am ((PDT)) > > I only sent that last message once, I know, honest, > and I did it from > within the website. I think something's gone wonky > at Yahoo, Stu... - > ken It's been happening all over yahoogroups, especially if you post on the site. Yahoo say they have now sorted the problem..... wait and see... I'll get back to you over the weekend with some one session wonders, have to check as the memory modules are shot! Hot Water, that Welsh 8 piece band spring to mind as being a good session as does the session by The Stoat but I'll check things out over the weekend. Cheers....Jimmy ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From ken_garner@... Fri Mar 30 15:48:28 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:48:28 -0000 Subject: LOVE CHILD Peel Session? Message-ID: Anyone remember anything about a Peel Session by the US trio LOVE CHILD, incl Rebecca Odes on bass? Radio 1 data has a recording date of 21/12/92, and it is clear the session did indeed take place, but there is no record of a broadcast date at all. Was it broadcast? And if so, when? From martinw@... Fri Mar 30 17:03:30 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:03:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] LOVE CHILD Peel Session? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 14:48 30/03/2007, you wrote: >Anyone remember anything about a Peel Session by the US trio LOVE >CHILD, incl Rebecca Odes on bass? Radio 1 data has a recording date of >21/12/92, and it is clear the session did indeed take place, but there >is no record of a broadcast date at all. Was it broadcast? And if so, >when? I have no record of it martinw From robfleay@... Sat Mar 31 00:20:08 2007 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:20:08 +0100 Subject: [peel] LOVE CHILD Peel Session? In-Reply-To: <20070330170558.ANR14624.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> References: Message-ID: <460D9B28.26444.33FA723@localhost> > At 14:48 30/03/2007, you wrote: > > >Anyone remember anything about a Peel Session by the US > >trio LOVE CHILD, incl Rebecca Odes on bass? Radio 1 data > >has a recording date of 21/12/92, and it is clear the > >session did indeed take place, but there is no record of a > >broadcast date at all. Was it broadcast? And if so, when? > I have no record of it > > martinw It rang a bell with me - I remember the band cos I bought their single after hearing Peel play it - I also bought the album and that wasn't so great. I felt sure I had a session on tape but after checking I must have been mistaken. My suspicion would be that it was scheduled and maybe plugged in advance by John but never happened for some reason - that might explain why it stuck in my mind. I was taping sessions regularly around that time Lord Google isn't much help as there appears to be about a million bands called LoveChild! From martinw@... Sat Mar 31 01:06:39 2007 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:06:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] LOVE CHILD Peel Session? In-Reply-To: <460D9B28.26444.33FA723@localhost> References: <460D9B28.26444.33FA723@localhost> Message-ID: At 23:20 30/03/2007, Robf wrote: >Lord Google isn't much help as there appears to be about a million >bands called LoveChild! I found several references on Google in particular this one http://www.matadorrecords.com/bands/runon/teenlooch.html If you go down the page you will find a discography of the guy being interviewed At the bottom of the Love Child bit it says John Peel 4 songs unreleased The timing of the session seems to be right at the point when the band disintegrated which could account for why it didn't go out martinw From ken_garner@... Sat Mar 31 16:19:12 2007 From: ken_garner@... (ken garner) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:19:12 -0000 Subject: LOVE CHILD Peel Session? Message-ID: Thanks, Martin, I'd found that interview elsewhere, yes. Mike Hawkes, Peel's Producer at the time, has no recollection of it either way, but is going to rummage about in his loft for his old planners/wallcharts to see if they might hold any clues. The funny thing is, with the help of Jon Small, I now have a complete-looking diary of Peel shows for first half of 93, and they simply do not appear there and would struggle to fit in: there are no gaps! I wonder... if, having been recorded on Mon 21/12 by any chance it was broadcast almost immediately over the 92 Christmas period, as a sort of bonus new one (this often happened actually) during the last two of the Festive 50 shows that year, on Friday 25/12 or Fri 1/1/93...? Anyone have a tape of those F50 92 shows? kg --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Martin Wheatley wrote: > > At 23:20 30/03/2007, Robf wrote: > > > >Lord Google isn't much help as there appears to be about a million > >bands called LoveChild! > > I found several references on Google in particular this > one > > http://www.matadorrecords.com/bands/runon/teenlooch.html > > If you go down the page you will find a discography of > the guy being interviewed > At the bottom of the Love Child bit it says > > John Peel 4 songs unreleased > > The timing of the session seems to be right at the point when > the band disintegrated which could account for why it didn't > go out > > martinw >