A quick question...

[dave]

> Paul said 
> 
>  > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays 
>  > with Nazi terminology to begin with. 
>  > To add Oven Gloves to the mix is 
>  > definately on the same trajectory of
>  > grotesque and in my view horribly 
>  > misplaced humour.
>  > 
>  > pb


> and dave said 
> 
> > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut 
> > post, and apologies for coming in 
> > rather late. But I don't see any 
> > logical connection between oven 
> > gloves and nazi-era references. 
> > There seems to besome confusion 
> > here between ovens and the obscene 
> > technology of nazi mass murder, 
> > which was something quite different. 

 
> to which Paul replied 
> 
> Here's the connection :
> 
> When the Second World War
> Came to an end
> We forgave the Germans
> And we were friends
> Though they murdered six million
> In the ovens they fried
> The Germans now too
> Have God on their side.
> 
> pb/bd 


I know what you & Bob mean, but "oven" doesn't trigger that 
association for me, still less oven gloves ("furnace" might), and I 
suspect it wouldn't for HMHB for whom the episode is doubtless 
remoter. I see on googling though that "oven" is more widely used in 
this context than I'd allowed for, but I'd still reckon any bad taste 
was unintended. If only they'd just changed their name to Walsall.