From troche@... Wed May 10 05:12:07 2006 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 23:12:07 -0400 Subject: A quick question... Message-ID: Does the title of HMHB's "Joy Division Oven Gloves" have any significance, i.e. is there a joke there I am missing (did Ian Curtis stick his head in an oven or something? Or is it just a splendid non sequitur? tom r From troche@... Wed May 10 05:14:47 2006 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 23:14:47 -0400 Subject: I'll have ten kit kats and a motoring atlas.... Message-ID: This from a small paper in upstate New York... tr May 9, 2006 Goshen,NY Two plead guilty in Walden robbery John Peel and William Keator each got about $150 from a gunpoint robbery of the Hess station in Walden, but they also threw away a few years of their lives. Peel, 20, will serve four years in state prison and Keator, 19, will serve 3? years, under the terms of plea bargains yesterday in Orange County Court. They each pleaded guilty to second-degree robbery, admitting they both robbed the all-night gas station at Routes 52 and 208 at about 6 a.m. Feb. 11. Peel was carrying a BB gun that looked like a real gun. Keator was his accomplice. "You were riding shotgun?" Judge Jeffrey Berry asked Keator. "Figuratively speaking, yes," Keator replied. The former Walden roommates are both in Orange County Jail, pending sentencing on June 5. Oliver Mackson Top Record Online is brought to you by the Times Herald-Record, serving New York's Hudson Valley and the Catskills. Terms of use | Privacy policy | Copyright | Corrections Subscribe | Advertise | THR services | Contact © Orange County Publications. All rights reserved. From davie@... Wed May 10 07:24:18 2006 From: davie@... (Davie Ramsay) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 06:24:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003a01c673f1$ff4e6c40$4e679fd4@homeucuwtaxc1y> The joy divisions were a groups of Jewish women in the concentration camps during world war II who were kept for the sexual pleasure of nazi soldiers. -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Roche Sent: 10 May 2006 04:12 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] A quick question... Does the title of HMHB's "Joy Division Oven Gloves" have any significance, i.e. is there a joke there I am missing (did Ian Curtis stick his head in an oven or something? Or is it just a splendid non sequitur? tom r SPONSORED LINKS Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school Wedding music Music Pop music YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS •  Visit your group "peel" on the web.   •  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com   •  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From stuart@... Wed May 10 10:50:26 2006 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 09:50:26 +0100 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <1147249978.201.33057.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1147249978.201.33057.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Never occurred to me that this might be the possible reason for the tune title. I don't believe HMHB would be likely to have had that behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how Factory Records' early catalogue included not just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of these unusual limited editions etc - all in the catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the completists). Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to back up either theory... S >The joy divisions were a groups of Jewish women in the concentration camps >during world war II who were kept for the sexual pleasure of nazi soldiers. > >-----Original Message----- >From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom >Roche >Sent: 10 May 2006 04:12 >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [peel] A quick question... > >Does the title of HMHB's "Joy Division Oven Gloves" have any >significance, i.e. is there a joke there I am missing (did Ian Curtis >stick his head in an oven or something? > >Or is it just a splendid non sequitur? > > >tom r > >SPONSORED LINKS >Music on hold systems >Music for advertising >Music school >Wedding music >Music >Pop music > > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >• Visit your group "peel" on the web. > >• To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >• Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out of such a horrible connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their songs anyway? Why Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always gone for the hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven Gloves laughs at anything in particular it's surely music industry merchandizing. More likely just his usual combination of the sublime and the ridiculous though. http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh wrote: > > Never occurred to me that this might be the > possible reason for the tune title. I don't > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how > Factory Records' early catalogue included not > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the > completists). > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to back up either theory... > > S From pbryant98@... Wed May 10 11:34:24 2006 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060510093424.54339.qmail@...> Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the mix is definately on the same trajectory of grotesque and in my view horribly misplaced humour. pb --- shortattentionspan_radio wrote: > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out of > such a horrible > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their > songs anyway? Why > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always gone > for the > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven > Gloves laughs at > anything in particular it's surely music industry > merchandizing. > More likely just his usual combination of the > sublime and the > ridiculous though. > > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh > wrote: > > > > Never occurred to me that this might be the > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the > > completists). > > > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to > back up either > theory... > > > > S > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bingoandsnork@... Wed May 10 12:20:39 2006 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:20:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] I'll have ten kit kats and a motoring atlas.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060510102039.56987.qmail@...> Ho ho. Although the subject title did make me think you were about to announce you were making a desperate bid to get on Big Brother. Tom Roche wrote: This from a small paper in upstate New York... tr May 9, 2006 Goshen,NY Two plead guilty in Walden robbery John Peel and William Keator each got about $150 from a gunpoint robbery of the Hess station in Walden, but they also threw away a few years of their lives. Peel, 20, will serve four years in state prison and Keator, 19, will serve 3? years, under the terms of plea bargains yesterday in Orange County Court. They each pleaded guilty to second-degree robbery, admitting they both robbed the all-night gas station at Routes 52 and 208 at about 6 a.m. Feb. 11. Peel was carrying a BB gun that looked like a real gun. Keator was his accomplice. "You were riding shotgun?" Judge Jeffrey Berry asked Keator. "Figuratively speaking, yes," Keator replied. The former Walden roommates are both in Orange County Jail, pending sentencing on June 5. Oliver Mackson Top Record Online is brought to you by the Times Herald-Record, serving New York's Hudson Valley and the Catskills. Terms of use | Privacy policy | Copyright | Corrections Subscribe | Advertise | THR services | Contact � Orange County Publications. All rights reserved. SPONSORED LINKS Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school Wedding music Music Pop music --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From bingoandsnork@... Wed May 10 12:33:22 2006 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:33:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060510093424.54339.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20060510103322.4555.qmail@...> I remember reading an interview where they said that the song was based upon somebody having a Joy Division oven glove, and inspiring them to right about stupid merchandising scams. Unfortunately, it has also become a firm favourite of the Stormfront White Nationalist Community . At least a few members of their forum, it would seem (type 'half man half biscuit joy division oven gloves' into yahoo and see what option number three is). Which just goes to show - white nationalists are a bit thick and don't do irony. Paul Bryant wrote: Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the mix is definately on the same trajectory of grotesque and in my view horribly misplaced humour. pb --- shortattentionspan_radio wrote: > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out of > such a horrible > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their > songs anyway? Why > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always gone > for the > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven > Gloves laughs at > anything in particular it's surely music industry > merchandizing. > More likely just his usual combination of the > sublime and the > ridiculous though. > > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh > wrote: > > > > Never occurred to me that this might be the > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the > > completists). > > > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to > back up either > theory... > > > > S > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school Wedding music Music Pop music --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From pbryant98@... Wed May 10 13:12:46 2006 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 04:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060510103322.4555.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20060510111246.94476.qmail@...> irony is a dangerous thing sometimes and can easily lead to the impression that you are in favour of the very things you're trying to satirise... --- dean coster wrote: > I remember reading an interview where they said that > the song was based upon somebody having a Joy > Division oven glove, and inspiring them to right > about stupid merchandising scams. Unfortunately, it > has also become a firm favourite of the Stormfront > White Nationalist Community . At least a few members > of their forum, it would seem (type 'half man half > biscuit joy division oven gloves' into yahoo and see > what option number three is). Which just goes to > show - white nationalists are a bit thick and don't > do irony. > > > > Paul Bryant wrote: > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the > mix is definately on the same trajectory of > grotesque > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > pb > > > > --- shortattentionspan_radio > wrote: > > > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out > of > > such a horrible > > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their > > songs anyway? Why > > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always > gone > > for the > > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven > > Gloves laughs at > > anything in particular it's surely music industry > > merchandizing. > > More likely just his usual combination of the > > sublime and the > > ridiculous though. > > > > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh > > wrote: > > > > > > Never occurred to me that this might be the > > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't > > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that > > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how > > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not > > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite > a > > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a > > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of > > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the > > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was > > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the > > > > completists). > > > > > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing > to > > back up either > > theory... > > > > > > S > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Music on hold systems Music for > advertising Music school Wedding music Music > Pop music > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "peel" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From thebarguest@... Wed May 10 22:32:51 2006 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 20:32:51 -0000 Subject: I'll have ten kit kats and a motoring atlas.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd have given the blighters 4 months community service and a canoeing holiday because they had a very deprived upbringing and I've got a terrible guilt complex because my grandaddy used to hang scallywags for taking rabbits. Judge Rupert Fudge, Gerrards Cross --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Tom Roche wrote: > > This from a small paper in upstate New York... > > tr > > > > May 9, 2006 > > Goshen,NY > > Two plead guilty in Walden robbery > > John Peel and William Keator each got about $150 > from a gunpoint robbery of the Hess station in > Walden, but they also threw away a few years of > their lives. > > Peel, 20, will serve four years in state prison > and Keator, 19, will serve 3? years, under the > terms of plea bargains yesterday in Orange County > Court. > > They each pleaded guilty to second-degree > robbery, admitting they both robbed the all-night > gas station at Routes 52 and 208 at about 6 a.m. > Feb. 11. > > Peel was carrying a BB gun that looked like a > real gun. Keator was his accomplice. > > "You were riding shotgun?" Judge Jeffrey Berry asked Keator. > > "Figuratively speaking, yes," Keator replied. > > The former Walden roommates are both in Orange > County Jail, pending sentencing on June 5. > > > > Oliver Mackson > Top > Record Online is brought to you by the Times > Herald-Record, serving New York's Hudson Valley > and the Catskills. > Terms of use | Privacy policy | Copyright | Corrections > Subscribe | Advertise | THR services | Contact > > © Orange County Publications. All rights reserved. > From colmgallagher@... Thu May 11 01:36:36 2006 From: colmgallagher@... (Colm Gallagher) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 00:36:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1240 In-Reply-To: <1147249978.201.33057.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: I think its a splendid non sequitur.... Are you really American ? I mean you know non sequitur? By the way your Tribute to John was wonderful ... I meant to say at the time... but work and a toddler to raise you understand I am sure........ keep it Peel Colm ************************************************** www.amicidance.org Creative Inclusive Barrier Free Dance Workshops for people with ALL abilities. Contact Colm Gallagher 86 Lockers Park Lane Boxmoor Hemel Hempstead HP1 1TJ TEL +44 (0) 1442 259057 MOB+44 (0) 0797 6216381 or Email colmgallagher@... colmgallagher@... ************************************************** From shortattentionspan_radio@... Thu May 11 11:19:40 2006 From: shortattentionspan_radio@... (shortattentionspan_radio) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:19:40 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060510103322.4555.qmail@...> Message-ID: Strangely, although the boneheads at Stormfront seem to like JDOG as a song, none of them have made the connection with Nazi ovens on that thread. We should probably allow that line of thinking to quietly drop... http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, dean coster wrote: > > I remember reading an interview where they said that the song was based upon somebody having a Joy Division oven glove, and inspiring them to right about stupid merchandising scams. Unfortunately, it has also become a firm favourite of the Stormfront White Nationalist Community . At least a few members of their forum, it would seem (type 'half man half biscuit joy division oven gloves' into yahoo and see what option number three is). Which just goes to show - white nationalists are a bit thick and don't do irony. From ajcauk@... Thu May 11 12:25:37 2006 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 11:25:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: some thoughts. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060511102538.72607.qmail@...> hi anyone catch the C4 prog last night in which the man is quoted direct from the book including a shot of the cover a bit about playing stuff despite what the management and or convention tries to impose prog called 'FM' part of Comedy Lab an indie radio show team resists corporate take-over hold up in the studio etc. earlier this year John Peel, the famous gynaecologist died aged 101 it gave me pause for thought there was a one-hit wonder Top 50 show last week Who let the dogs out? Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps please were in but i felt that Peelie was largely instrumental in making these songs into hits of this no mention others taking credit so many candidates for this list ajc Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From domesticempire@... Thu May 11 16:57:51 2006 From: domesticempire@... (DomesticEmpire) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 15:57:51 +0100 Subject: [peel] some thoughts. In-Reply-To: <20060511102538.72607.qmail@...> References: <20060511102538.72607.qmail@...> Message-ID: In the words of Eric Morecambe, "Who is this fool?" ;-p On 11/05/06, cannon alan wrote: > > hi > anyone catch the C4 prog last night > in which the man is quoted direct from the book > including a shot of the cover > a bit about playing stuff despite what the management > and or convention tries to impose > prog called 'FM' part of Comedy Lab > an indie radio show team resists corporate take-over > hold up in the studio etc. > > earlier this year John Peel, the famous gynaecologist > died aged 101 > it gave me pause for thought > > there was a one-hit wonder Top 50 show last week > Who let the dogs out? > Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps please > were in but i felt that Peelie was largely > instrumental in making these songs into hits > of this no mention others taking credit > so many candidates for this list > ajc > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school > Wedding music Music Pop music > > ________________________________ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "peel" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@...m > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > ________________________________ > -- Gary {aka DomesticEmpire} http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com From pbryant98@... Thu May 11 22:57:04 2006 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1969 sessions anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060511205704.64897.qmail@...> Dear all This is very farfetched, I know, but last time I asked you lot I got what I wanted immediately.....!! Way way back in 1969 John Martyn did a session for Night Ride I think, it included a lovely song called The River and another one called Come along and Sing a Song of Summer. Does anyone have this session on tape? Also way way WAY back in 1969 the newly formed Yes did a Top Gear session where they played Another Day and Sweetness - anyone got that one? Expecting a resounding silence, but thanks anyone O ye musical historians Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dr_mango2004@... Fri May 12 13:06:33 2006 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:06:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Song searches from Peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060512110633.5658.qmail@...> Hello to all. A couple of people on a music forum I visit have mentioned songs that they heard on the John Peel show back in the day and yes, now they'd like to know the artist and song title. Here's what they remember: 1. The listener remembers the line, "tonight I did a terrible thing". He writes, "must have been late 80's/early 90's. female singer and for some reason i think the band might have been from liverpool. john peel certainly played a couple of tracks by them. the lyrics i have in my head are tonight i did a terrible thing i don't know what came over me ?? ?? only to find you see through my lies ?? forgetting how well you know me it's not important but i will lose my mind if you can't help" 2. Patient #2 writes: "What song are these from, and by whom?..It was a song i taped off John Peel years ago and it seemed to consist of a madman screaming insane lyrics while his equally mad trumpeting friend goes berserk in the background..anyway Don't Take me for Granite Because i'm feeling a little bolder I've got funny little men with rucksacks, Climbing up my shoulder I remember Peel playing it a lot at the time. Mid-late 80s. Any help would be appreciated! Dr Mango Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From michael.jennings42@... Fri May 12 20:04:05 2006 From: michael.jennings42@... (nicepudneyman48) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:04:05 -0000 Subject: Song searches from Peel shows In-Reply-To: <20060512110633.5658.qmail@...> Message-ID: Don't know about the first one but the description of the madman shouting and the trumpet has to be "Paralysed" by the Legendary Stardust Cowboy. A CD of the cowboy is available on Amazon, I think. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Hello to all. > > A couple of people on a music forum I visit have mentioned songs that they heard on the John Peel show back in the day and yes, now they'd like to know the artist and song title. Here's what they remember: > > 1. The listener remembers the line, "tonight I did a terrible thing". He writes, > > "must have been late 80's/early 90's. female singer and for some reason i think the band might have been from liverpool. john peel certainly played a couple of tracks by them. > > the lyrics i have in my head are > > tonight i did a terrible thing > i don't know what came over me > ?? > ?? > only to find you see through my lies > ?? > forgetting how well you know me > > it's not important but i will lose my mind if you can't help" > > 2. Patient #2 writes: > > "What song are these from, and by whom?..It was a song i taped off John Peel years ago and it seemed to consist of a madman screaming insane lyrics while his equally mad trumpeting friend goes berserk in the background..anyway > > Don't Take me for Granite > Because i'm feeling a little bolder > I've got funny little men with rucksacks, > Climbing up my shoulder > > I remember Peel playing it a lot at the time. Mid-late 80s. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > Dr Mango > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From lists@... Fri May 12 21:02:36 2006 From: lists@... (Rob Brewer) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 20:02:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] Song searches from Peel shows In-Reply-To: <20060512110633.5658.qmail@...> References: <20060512110633.5658.qmail@...> Message-ID: From dunelm@... Sat May 13 12:04:13 2006 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 10:04:13 -0000 Subject: Song Searches from Peel Shows Message-ID: I wonder if someone might be able to help me identify a song I heard on the John Peel Show some time in the late seventies. It was sung in what I can only describe as a high-pitched Irish warble, sounding a bit like that bloke from the Assembly. If memory serves, I think the song began with the lyrics: "Teenage dreams so hard to beat, every time she walks down the street". Unless I'm very much mistaken, the song alluded to the Sin of Onin. I'm pretty sure Peel played the record on more than one occasion, although I was never able to catch the name of the artist or the song. Thank you for your help. Facetious Twat. From beans_again@... Mon May 15 16:23:18 2006 From: beans_again@... (dave) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:23:18 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060510093424.54339.qmail@...> Message-ID: Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies for coming in rather late. But I don't see any logical connection between oven gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be some confusion here between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi mass murder, which was something quite different. I'm no fan but I think HMHB are innocent on this score, which is more than can be said for JD/NO. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant wrote: > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the > mix is definately on the same trajectory of grotesque > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > pb > > --- shortattentionspan_radio > wrote: > > > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out of > > such a horrible > > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their > > songs anyway? Why > > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always gone > > for the > > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven > > Gloves laughs at > > anything in particular it's surely music industry > > merchandizing. > > More likely just his usual combination of the > > sublime and the > > ridiculous though. > > > > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh > > wrote: > > > > > > Never occurred to me that this might be the > > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't > > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that > > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how > > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not > > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a > > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a > > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of > > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the > > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was > > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the > > > completists). > > > > > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to > > back up either > > theory... > > > > > > S > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From pbryant98@... Mon May 15 17:30:10 2006 From: pbryant98@... (Paul Bryant) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060515153010.91454.qmail@...> Well, I said > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the > mix is definately on the same trajectory of grotesque > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > pb > and dave said --- dave wrote: > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies > for coming in > rather late. But I don't see any logical connection > between oven > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be > some confusion here > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi > mass murder, which > was something quite different. so now I say Here's the connection : When the Second World War Came to an end We forgave the Germans And we were friends Though they murdered six million In the ovens they fried The Germans now too Have God on their side. pb/bd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nwobble@... Mon May 15 19:09:34 2006 From: nwobble@... (nwobble) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:09:34 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As a long time fan of HMHB and a passing fan of JD, I would agree with this. I think its basically a reference to excessive amounts of merchendising. There's even a pait on the cover of the album. Although these are different to the pair a friend of mine made, which make an appearance at most Biscuit gigs. See photos on the Biscuit forum. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "dave" wrote: > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies for coming in > rather late. But I don't see any logical connection between oven > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be some confusion here > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi mass murder, which > was something quite different. I'm no fan but I think HMHB are > innocent on this score, which is more than can be said for JD/NO. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant wrote: > > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to the > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of grotesque > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > > > pb > > > > --- shortattentionspan_radio > > wrote: > > > > > I cannot believe that Nigel would make a joke out of > > > such a horrible > > > connection. Since when did HMHB use logic in their > > > songs anyway? Why > > > Dukla Prague? Why Fred Titmuss? They've always gone > > > for the > > > hilariously irrelevant and if Joy Division Oven > > > Gloves laughs at > > > anything in particular it's surely music industry > > > merchandizing. > > > More likely just his usual combination of the > > > sublime and the > > > ridiculous though. > > > > > > http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Never occurred to me that this might be the > > > > possible reason for the tune title. I don't > > > > believe HMHB would be likely to have had that > > > > behind it. I'd imagine it's more to do with how > > > > Factory Records' early catalogue included not > > > > just records, but posters, badges, films, quite a > > > > lot of headed notepaper, a lawsuit (!), and a > > > > (sadly fictional) menstrual egg timer (!!). Of > > > > these unusual limited editions etc - all in the > > > > catalogue as FAC 1, FAC2, etc - most famous was > > > > FAC51, the Hacienda nightclub (one to stymie the > > > > completists). > > > > > > > > Analysis at http://www.hmhb.co.uk/, but nothing to > > > back up either > > > theory... > > > > > > > > S > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From martin2@... Tue May 16 00:04:23 2006 From: martin2@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:04:23 +0100 Subject: Mogwai Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060515230348.02023ae8@...> There is a recent Mogwai concert for download here http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5384035 From beans_again@... Tue May 16 01:05:45 2006 From: beans_again@... (dave) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:05:45 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060515153010.91454.qmail@...> Message-ID: > Paul said > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays > > with Nazi terminology to begin with. > > To add Oven Gloves to the mix is > > definately on the same trajectory of > > grotesque and in my view horribly > > misplaced humour. > > > > pb > and dave said > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut > > post, and apologies for coming in > > rather late. But I don't see any > > logical connection between oven > > gloves and nazi-era references. > > There seems to besome confusion > > here between ovens and the obscene > > technology of nazi mass murder, > > which was something quite different. > to which Paul replied > > Here's the connection : > > When the Second World War > Came to an end > We forgave the Germans > And we were friends > Though they murdered six million > In the ovens they fried > The Germans now too > Have God on their side. > > pb/bd I know what you & Bob mean, but "oven" doesn't trigger that association for me, still less oven gloves ("furnace" might), and I suspect it wouldn't for HMHB for whom the episode is doubtless remoter. I see on googling though that "oven" is more widely used in this context than I'd allowed for, but I'd still reckon any bad taste was unintended. If only they'd just changed their name to Walsall. From thebarguest@... Tue May 16 01:45:20 2006 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:45:20 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060515153010.91454.qmail@...> Message-ID: In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some criticism for it, and in a few years wore a star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying Israel and saying in interviews that she was half Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism in the lyrics can only assume the names were down to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and obscure groups, often performing not their best-known songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" is f***ing amazing ........ Yours, Richard Rodney Grimston --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant wrote: > > Well, I said > > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to > the > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of > grotesque > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > > > pb > > > > and dave said > > > --- dave wrote: > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies > > for coming in > > rather late. But I don't see any logical connection > > between oven > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be > > some confusion here > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi > > mass murder, which > > was something quite different. > > so now I say > > > Here's the connection : > > When the Second World War > Came to an end > We forgave the Germans > And we were friends > Though they murdered six million > In the ovens they fried > The Germans now too > Have God on their side. > > > pb/bd > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From beans_again@... Tue May 16 02:47:04 2006 From: beans_again@... (dave) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 00:47:04 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's interesting contrasting the career of the Angelic Upstarts (from swastika armbands to anti-fascist crusaders) and Crisis (from anti- racist firebrands to dalliance with nazi imagery on the part of a couple of members in later outfits). It's unfortunate that punk (or more precisely the Pistols and their following) chose that particular provocation to get themselves noticed. I think Peel & Walters did their bit to promote a more useful message, and for that I'm eternally grateful. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "thebarguest" wrote: > > In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and > Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did > a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away > with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some > criticism for it, and in a few years wore a > star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying > Israel and saying in interviews that she was half > Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" > started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and > ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) > large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the > music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism > in the lyrics can only assume the names were down > to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony > Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... From roger.carruthers@... Tue May 16 10:15:05 2006 From: roger.carruthers@... (ROGER CARRUTHERS) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:15:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060516081505.81299.qmail@...> Don't suppose you fancy reseeding that torrent ? I just had alook for it, and the only one I could find doesn't look very healthy. I have Urgh!.. on vinyl, and would love to see the video, cheers Roger --- thebarguest wrote: --------------------------------- In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some criticism for it, and in a few years wore a star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying Israel and saying in interviews that she was half Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism in the lyrics can only assume the names were down to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and obscure groups, often performing not their best-known songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" is f***ing amazing ........ Yours, Richard Rodney Grimston --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant wrote: > > Well, I said > > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to > the > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of > grotesque > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > > > pb > > > > and dave said > > > --- dave wrote: > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies > > for coming in > > rather late. But I don't see any logical connection > > between oven > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be > > some confusion here > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi > > mass murder, which > > was something quite different. > > so now I say > > > Here's the connection : > > When the Second World War > Came to an end > We forgave the Germans > And we were friends > Though they murdered six million > In the ovens they fried > The Germans now too > Have God on their side. > > > pb/bd > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- From emailjpatterson@... Tue May 16 11:53:30 2006 From: emailjpatterson@... (Jonathan Patterson) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:53:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Lightening the mood...search those archives!! In-Reply-To: <1147768943.169.75336.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20060516095330.28562.qmail@...> To lighten the mood a lighten following the discussion of excess merchandise / nazi imagery, I thought I'd ask a question which might get you searching through your tape archives!! It isn't going too far back, but I am after two Kershaw sessions featuring singer songwriter Teddy Thompson. The first is one of Teddy on his own, recorded for Kershaws old R1 show (very close to the end of his time there - possibly even the very last show....) and the other is the session Linda Thompson did for Andy Kershaw to promote her solo album of a couple of years ago - it featured a stunning version of Paddy's Lament - which I recorded but which had a couple of drop outs on it. The first Teddy session helped to introduce me to this great artist, but I've always regretted not keeping the recording, and I'd love to get hold of these. Any chance anyone has these they could help me out with? Much gratitude in advance... Jon Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From thebarguest@... Tue May 16 17:18:28 2006 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:18:28 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <20060516081505.81299.qmail@...> Message-ID: It seems to be active in www.torrentspy.com, both album and video. Once you've started your torrent program, it may take an hour or so to get going. Both are not commercially available - crazy with a listing like this : 1. Driven to Tears - The Police 2. Back in Flesh - Wall of Voodoo 3. Enola Gay - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark 4. Ain't This the Life - Oingo Boingo 5. Respectable Street - XTC 6. We Got the Beat - The Go-Go's 7. Total Eclipse - Klaus Nomi 8. Foolish I Know - Jools Holland 9. Ku Klux Klan - Steel Pulse 10. Uncontrollable Urge - Devo 11. Puppet - Echo & the Bunnymen 12. Tear It Up - The Cramps 13. Bad Reputation - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts 14. Birdies - Pere Ubu 15. Down in the Park - Gary Numan 16. Shadow Line - The Fleshtones 17. He'd Send in the Army - Gang of Four 18. Homicide - 999 19. Beyond and Back - X 20. Model Worker - Magazine 21. Sign of the Cross - Skafish --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote: > > Don't suppose you fancy reseeding that torrent ? I > just had alook for it, and the only one I could find > doesn't look very healthy. > I have Urgh!.. on vinyl, and would love to see the > video, > cheers > Roger > > --- thebarguest wrote: > > > --------------------------------- > In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and > Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did > a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away > with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some > criticism for it, and in a few years wore a > star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying > Israel and saying in interviews that she was half > Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" > started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and > ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) > large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the > music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism > in the lyrics can only assume the names were down > to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony > Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... > > To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not > seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get > it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and > obscure groups, often performing not their best-known > songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site > a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" > is f***ing amazing ........ > > Yours, > Richard Rodney Grimston > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant > wrote: > > > > Well, I said > > > > > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to > > the > > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of > > grotesque > > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > > > > > > pb > > > > > > > and dave said > > > > > > --- dave wrote: > > > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies > > > for coming in > > > rather late. But I don't see any logical > connection > > > between oven > > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be > > > some confusion here > > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi > > > mass murder, which > > > was something quite different. > > > > so now I say > > > > > > Here's the connection : > > > > When the Second World War > > Came to an end > > We forgave the Germans > > And we were friends > > Though they murdered six million > > In the ovens they fried > > The Germans now too > > Have God on their side. > > > > > > pb/bd > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "peel" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > From roger.carruthers@... Tue May 16 19:35:38 2006 From: roger.carruthers@... (Roger Carruthers) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:35:38 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yep, it did start to trickle down eventually, I was just being impatient ;-) looking forward to watching it tomorrow night. Looking at my vinyl copy, there¹s a couple of things missing, exactly one track per side in fact, namely: Toyah ­ Dance (no great loss there...) The Members ­ Offshore banking Business The Au Pairs ­ Come again John Otway ­ Cheryl¹s Going Home If I get time, I¹ll rip my copy and upload the full monty somewhere ­ I¹m in the process of starting a blog, so watch this space... cheers On 16/5/06 16:18, "thebarguest" wrote: > It seems to be active in www.torrentspy.com, both > album and video. Once you've started your torrent > program, it may take an hour or so to get going. > Both are not commercially available - crazy with > a listing like this : > > 1. Driven to Tears - The Police > 2. Back in Flesh - Wall of Voodoo > 3. Enola Gay - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark > 4. Ain't This the Life - Oingo Boingo > 5. Respectable Street - XTC > 6. We Got the Beat - The Go-Go's > 7. Total Eclipse - Klaus Nomi > 8. Foolish I Know - Jools Holland > 9. Ku Klux Klan - Steel Pulse > 10. Uncontrollable Urge - Devo > 11. Puppet - Echo & the Bunnymen > 12. Tear It Up - The Cramps > 13. Bad Reputation - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts > 14. Birdies - Pere Ubu > 15. Down in the Park - Gary Numan > 16. Shadow Line - The Fleshtones > 17. He'd Send in the Army - Gang of Four > 18. Homicide - 999 > 19. Beyond and Back - X > 20. Model Worker - Magazine > 21. Sign of the Cross - Skafish > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ROGER CARRUTHERS > wrote: >> > >> > Don't suppose you fancy reseeding that torrent ? I >> > just had alook for it, and the only one I could find >> > doesn't look very healthy. >> > I have Urgh!.. on vinyl, and would love to see the >> > video, >> > cheers >> > Roger >> > >> > --- thebarguest wrote: >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and >> > Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did >> > a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away >> > with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some >> > criticism for it, and in a few years wore a >> > star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying >> > Israel and saying in interviews that she was half >> > Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" >> > started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and >> > ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) >> > large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the >> > music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism >> > in the lyrics can only assume the names were down >> > to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony >> > Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... >> > >> > To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not >> > seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get >> > it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and >> > obscure groups, often performing not their best-known >> > songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site >> > a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" >> > is f***ing amazing ........ >> > >> > Yours, >> > Richard Rodney Grimston >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant >> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Well, I said >>> > > >>> > > >>>> > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi >>>> > > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to >>> > > the >>>> > > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of >>> > > grotesque >>>> > > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > pb >>>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > and dave said >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > --- dave wrote: >>> > > >>>> > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies >>>> > > > for coming in >>>> > > > rather late. But I don't see any logical >> > connection >>>> > > > between oven >>>> > > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be >>>> > > > some confusion here >>>> > > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi >>>> > > > mass murder, which >>>> > > > was something quite different. >>> > > >>> > > so now I say >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Here's the connection : >>> > > >>> > > When the Second World War >>> > > Came to an end >>> > > We forgave the Germans >>> > > And we were friends >>> > > Though they murdered six million >>> > > In the ovens they fried >>> > > The Germans now too >>> > > Have God on their side. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > pb/bd >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > __________________________________________________ >>> > > Do You Yahoo!? >>> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> > protection around >>> > > http://mail.yahoo.com >>> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> > >> > >> > Visit your group "peel" on the web. >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! >> > Terms of Service. >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "peel " on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > . > > > > From thebarguest@... Tue May 16 22:53:45 2006 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:53:45 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There's quite a bit more on the vid as well eg Dead Kennedys, John Cooper-Clarke. A new blog would be nice, esp as Duffpaddy (Kat's Karavan) seems to have given up on his ......... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers wrote: > > Yep, it did start to trickle down eventually, I was just being impatient ;-) > looking forward to watching it tomorrow night. > Looking at my vinyl copy, there¹s a couple of things missing, exactly one > track per side in fact, namely: > > Toyah ­ Dance (no great loss there...) > The Members ­ Offshore banking Business > The Au Pairs ­ Come again > John Otway ­ Cheryl¹s Going Home > > If I get time, I¹ll rip my copy and upload the full monty somewhere ­ I¹m in > the process of starting a blog, so watch this space... > cheers > > > > On 16/5/06 16:18, "thebarguest" wrote: > > > It seems to be active in www.torrentspy.com, both > > album and video. Once you've started your torrent > > program, it may take an hour or so to get going. > > Both are not commercially available - crazy with > > a listing like this : > > > > 1. Driven to Tears - The Police > > 2. Back in Flesh - Wall of Voodoo > > 3. Enola Gay - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark > > 4. Ain't This the Life - Oingo Boingo > > 5. Respectable Street - XTC > > 6. We Got the Beat - The Go-Go's > > 7. Total Eclipse - Klaus Nomi > > 8. Foolish I Know - Jools Holland > > 9. Ku Klux Klan - Steel Pulse > > 10. Uncontrollable Urge - Devo > > 11. Puppet - Echo & the Bunnymen > > 12. Tear It Up - The Cramps > > 13. Bad Reputation - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts > > 14. Birdies - Pere Ubu > > 15. Down in the Park - Gary Numan > > 16. Shadow Line - The Fleshtones > > 17. He'd Send in the Army - Gang of Four > > 18. Homicide - 999 > > 19. Beyond and Back - X > > 20. Model Worker - Magazine > > 21. Sign of the Cross - Skafish > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ROGER CARRUTHERS > > wrote: > >> > > >> > Don't suppose you fancy reseeding that torrent ? I > >> > just had alook for it, and the only one I could find > >> > doesn't look very healthy. > >> > I have Urgh!.. on vinyl, and would love to see the > >> > video, > >> > cheers > >> > Roger > >> > > >> > --- thebarguest wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------- > >> > In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and > >> > Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did > >> > a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away > >> > with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some > >> > criticism for it, and in a few years wore a > >> > star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying > >> > Israel and saying in interviews that she was half > >> > Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" > >> > started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and > >> > ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) > >> > large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the > >> > music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism > >> > in the lyrics can only assume the names were down > >> > to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony > >> > Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... > >> > > >> > To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not > >> > seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get > >> > it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and > >> > obscure groups, often performing not their best-known > >> > songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site > >> > a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" > >> > is f***ing amazing ........ > >> > > >> > Yours, > >> > Richard Rodney Grimston > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant > >> > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > Well, I said > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > >>>> > > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to > >>> > > the > >>>> > > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of > >>> > > grotesque > >>>> > > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > pb > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > and dave said > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- dave wrote: > >>> > > > >>>> > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies > >>>> > > > for coming in > >>>> > > > rather late. But I don't see any logical > >> > connection > >>>> > > > between oven > >>>> > > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be > >>>> > > > some confusion here > >>>> > > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi > >>>> > > > mass murder, which > >>>> > > > was something quite different. > >>> > > > >>> > > so now I say > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Here's the connection : > >>> > > > >>> > > When the Second World War > >>> > > Came to an end > >>> > > We forgave the Germans > >>> > > And we were friends > >>> > > Though they murdered six million > >>> > > In the ovens they fried > >>> > > The Germans now too > >>> > > Have God on their side. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > pb/bd > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > __________________________________________________ > >>> > > Do You Yahoo!? > >>> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >> > protection around > >>> > > http://mail.yahoo.com > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------- > >> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > > >> > > >> > Visit your group "peel" on the web. > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > >> > Terms of Service. > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------- > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "peel " on the web. > > * > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > * peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > * > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > . > > > > > > > > > From garry_latham@... Wed May 17 00:29:21 2006 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:29:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Mogwai In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20060515230348.02023ae8@...> Message-ID: <20060516222921.42141.qmail@...> Sweet. Thnx Garry. Martin Wheatley wrote: There is a recent Mogwai concert for download here http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5384035 --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From eddie.duffy@... Wed May 17 10:13:31 2006 From: eddie.duffy@... (Eddie Duffy) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:13:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: A quick question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1174.83.104.185.49.1147853611.squirrel@83.104.185.49> I've not given up, just not had chance to update recently. I'm only able to update at weekends and I've missed the last two. New job keeping me v. busy! I have an old Night Ride (generously supplied by Colin Ellis) to put up soon, hopefully this weekend. (Which reminds me, I must send Colin some stuff soon...) Eddie. > There's quite a bit more on the vid as well eg > Dead Kennedys, John Cooper-Clarke. > A new blog would be nice, esp as Duffpaddy (Kat's Karavan) > seems to have given up on his ......... > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers > wrote: >> >> Yep, it did start to trickle down eventually, I was just being > impatient ;-) >> looking forward to watching it tomorrow night. >> Looking at my vinyl copy, there�s a couple of things missing, > exactly one >> track per side in fact, namely: >> >> Toyah � Dance (no great loss there...) >> The Members � Offshore banking Business >> The Au Pairs � Come again >> John Otway � Cheryl�s Going Home >> >> If I get time, I�ll rip my copy and upload the full monty > somewhere � I�m in >> the process of starting a blog, so watch this space... >> cheers >> >> >> >> On 16/5/06 16:18, "thebarguest" wrote: >> >> > It seems to be active in www.torrentspy.com, both >> > album and video. Once you've started your torrent >> > program, it may take an hour or so to get going. >> > Both are not commercially available - crazy with >> > a listing like this : >> > >> > 1. Driven to Tears - The Police >> > 2. Back in Flesh - Wall of Voodoo >> > 3. Enola Gay - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark >> > 4. Ain't This the Life - Oingo Boingo >> > 5. Respectable Street - XTC >> > 6. We Got the Beat - The Go-Go's >> > 7. Total Eclipse - Klaus Nomi >> > 8. Foolish I Know - Jools Holland >> > 9. Ku Klux Klan - Steel Pulse >> > 10. Uncontrollable Urge - Devo >> > 11. Puppet - Echo & the Bunnymen >> > 12. Tear It Up - The Cramps >> > 13. Bad Reputation - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts >> > 14. Birdies - Pere Ubu >> > 15. Down in the Park - Gary Numan >> > 16. Shadow Line - The Fleshtones >> > 17. He'd Send in the Army - Gang of Four >> > 18. Homicide - 999 >> > 19. Beyond and Back - X >> > 20. Model Worker - Magazine >> > 21. Sign of the Cross - Skafish >> > >> > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ROGER CARRUTHERS >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Don't suppose you fancy reseeding that torrent ? I >> >> > just had alook for it, and the only one I could find >> >> > doesn't look very healthy. >> >> > I have Urgh!.. on vinyl, and would love to see the >> >> > video, >> >> > cheers >> >> > Roger >> >> > >> >> > --- thebarguest wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------- >> >> > In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and >> >> > Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did >> >> > a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away >> >> > with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some >> >> > criticism for it, and in a few years wore a >> >> > star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying >> >> > Israel and saying in interviews that she was half >> >> > Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" >> >> > started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and >> >> > ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) >> >> > large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the >> >> > music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism >> >> > in the lyrics can only assume the names were down >> >> > to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony >> >> > Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... >> >> > >> >> > To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not >> >> > seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get >> >> > it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and >> >> > obscure groups, often performing not their best-known >> >> > songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site >> >> > a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" >> >> > is f***ing amazing ........ >> >> > >> >> > Yours, >> >> > Richard Rodney Grimston >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant >> >> > wrote: >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Well, I said >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi >> >>>> > > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to >> >>> > > the >> >>>> > > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of >> >>> > > grotesque >> >>>> > > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > pb >> >>>> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > and dave said >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > --- dave wrote: >> >>> > > >> >>>> > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies >> >>>> > > > for coming in >> >>>> > > > rather late. But I don't see any logical >> >> > connection >> >>>> > > > between oven >> >>>> > > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be >> >>>> > > > some confusion here >> >>>> > > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi >> >>>> > > > mass murder, which >> >>>> > > > was something quite different. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > so now I say >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Here's the connection : >> >>> > > >> >>> > > When the Second World War >> >>> > > Came to an end >> >>> > > We forgave the Germans >> >>> > > And we were friends >> >>> > > Though they murdered six million >> >>> > > In the ovens they fried >> >>> > > The Germans now too >> >>> > > Have God on their side. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > pb/bd >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > __________________________________________________ >> >>> > > Do You Yahoo!? >> >>> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> >> > protection around >> >>> > > http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------- >> >> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Visit your group "peel" on the web. >> >> > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> >> > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> > >> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! >> >> > Terms of Service. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------- >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> > >> > * Visit your group "peel " > on the web. >> > * >> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> > * peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > * >> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service >> > . >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > From thebarguest@... Wed May 17 11:03:30 2006 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:03:30 -0000 Subject: A quick question... In-Reply-To: <1174.83.104.185.49.1147853611.squirrel@83.104.185.49> Message-ID: Sorry Ed. Shouldn't have ass-umed ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Eddie Duffy" wrote: > > I've not given up, just not had chance to update recently. I'm only able > to update at weekends and I've missed the last two. New job keeping me v. > busy! > > I have an old Night Ride (generously supplied by Colin Ellis) to put up > soon, hopefully this weekend. (Which reminds me, I must send Colin some > stuff soon...) > > Eddie. > > > There's quite a bit more on the vid as well eg > > Dead Kennedys, John Cooper-Clarke. > > A new blog would be nice, esp as Duffpaddy (Kat's Karavan) > > seems to have given up on his ......... > > > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Roger Carruthers > > wrote: > >> > >> Yep, it did start to trickle down eventually, I was just being > > impatient ;-) > >> looking forward to watching it tomorrow night. > >> Looking at my vinyl copy, there¹s a couple of things missing, > > exactly one > >> track per side in fact, namely: > >> > >> Toyah ­ Dance (no great loss there...) > >> The Members ­ Offshore banking Business > >> The Au Pairs ­ Come again > >> John Otway ­ Cheryl¹s Going Home > >> > >> If I get time, I¹ll rip my copy and upload the full monty > > somewhere ­ I¹m in > >> the process of starting a blog, so watch this space... > >> cheers > >> > >> > >> > >> On 16/5/06 16:18, "thebarguest" wrote: > >> > >> > It seems to be active in www.torrentspy.com, both > >> > album and video. Once you've started your torrent > >> > program, it may take an hour or so to get going. > >> > Both are not commercially available - crazy with > >> > a listing like this : > >> > > >> > 1. Driven to Tears - The Police > >> > 2. Back in Flesh - Wall of Voodoo > >> > 3. Enola Gay - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark > >> > 4. Ain't This the Life - Oingo Boingo > >> > 5. Respectable Street - XTC > >> > 6. We Got the Beat - The Go-Go's > >> > 7. Total Eclipse - Klaus Nomi > >> > 8. Foolish I Know - Jools Holland > >> > 9. Ku Klux Klan - Steel Pulse > >> > 10. Uncontrollable Urge - Devo > >> > 11. Puppet - Echo & the Bunnymen > >> > 12. Tear It Up - The Cramps > >> > 13. Bad Reputation - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts > >> > 14. Birdies - Pere Ubu > >> > 15. Down in the Park - Gary Numan > >> > 16. Shadow Line - The Fleshtones > >> > 17. He'd Send in the Army - Gang of Four > >> > 18. Homicide - 999 > >> > 19. Beyond and Back - X > >> > 20. Model Worker - Magazine > >> > 21. Sign of the Cross - Skafish > >> > > >> > > >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ROGER CARRUTHERS > >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Don't suppose you fancy reseeding that torrent ? I > >> >> > just had alook for it, and the only one I could find > >> >> > doesn't look very healthy. > >> >> > I have Urgh!.. on vinyl, and would love to see the > >> >> > video, > >> >> > cheers > >> >> > Roger > >> >> > > >> >> > --- thebarguest wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------- > >> >> > In the early days of punk, both the Pistols and > >> >> > Siouxsie wore swastika T-shirts. The Pistols did > >> >> > a song called "Belsen was a Gas" - how they got away > >> >> > with that God knows ...... Siouxsie did get some > >> >> > criticism for it, and in a few years wore a > >> >> > star-of-david T-shirt singing a song glorifying > >> >> > Israel and saying in interviews that she was half > >> >> > Jewish. Apology accepted, hopefully. "Joy Divison" > >> >> > started as "Warsaw" (obvious Nazi connection) and > >> >> > ended as "New Order" - this given a (relatively) > >> >> > large Jewish population in Manchester. I love the > >> >> > music of W/JD/NO and not seeing any anti-semitism > >> >> > in the lyrics can only assume the names were down > >> >> > to fashion/ignorance/bad advice. But then Tony > >> >> > Wilson is a shrewd, well-educated man.... > >> >> > > >> >> > To all fans of 1980/81 new-wave ; if you have not > >> >> > seen the film "Urgh a music war", do try to get > >> >> > it - its amazingly good - loads of well-known and > >> >> > obscure groups, often performing not their best-known > >> >> > songs (very unusual). I got mine from a torrent site > >> >> > a few months ago ; to see Magazine play "Model Worker" > >> >> > is f***ing amazing ........ > >> >> > > >> >> > Yours, > >> >> > Richard Rodney Grimston > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bryant > >> >> > wrote: > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > Well, I said > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>>> > > > Surely Joy Division/New Order plays with Nazi > >> >>>> > > > terminology to begin with. To add Oven Gloves to > >> >>> > > the > >> >>>> > > > mix is definately on the same trajectory of > >> >>> > > grotesque > >> >>>> > > > and in my view horribly misplaced humour. > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > pb > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > and dave said > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > --- dave wrote: > >> >>> > > > >> >>>> > > > Oh my, heavy topic for a debut post, and apologies > >> >>>> > > > for coming in > >> >>>> > > > rather late. But I don't see any logical > >> >> > connection > >> >>>> > > > between oven > >> >>>> > > > gloves and nazi-era references. There seems to be > >> >>>> > > > some confusion here > >> >>>> > > > between ovens and the obscene technology of nazi > >> >>>> > > > mass murder, which > >> >>>> > > > was something quite different. > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > so now I say > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > Here's the connection : > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > When the Second World War > >> >>> > > Came to an end > >> >>> > > We forgave the Germans > >> >>> > > And we were friends > >> >>> > > Though they murdered six million > >> >>> > > In the ovens they fried > >> >>> > > The Germans now too > >> >>> > > Have God on their side. > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > pb/bd > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > __________________________________________________ > >> >>> > > Do You Yahoo!? > >> >>> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >> >> > protection around > >> >>> > > http://mail.yahoo.com > >> >>> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------- > >> >> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Visit your group "peel" on the web. > >> >> > > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> >> > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> >> > > >> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > >> >> > Terms of Service. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------- > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > > >> > * Visit your group "peel " > > on the web. > >> > * > >> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> > * peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > > >> > * > >> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service > >> > . > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From paul@... Thu May 18 18:07:27 2006 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:07:27 +0100 Subject: Behind the scenes with the Buzzcocks Message-ID: <034e01c67a95$28acb200$0201a8c0@...> The Roadie's Tale on BBC Radio 4 Tuesday 23rd May 2006 at 13:30 until 14:00 Behind the scenes at every gig and concert is a wonderful collection of personalities; the literally unsung heroes whose lives are dedicated to making it happen. Nick Barraclough goes on the road with The Buzzcocks and offers a fascinating, warts-and-all glimpse into the secret, subterranean world of their crew. With contributions from The Buzzcocks, their crew, Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson, Andy Kershaw and Mark Radcliffe. Paul Webster From troche@... Sat May 20 04:34:09 2006 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:34:09 -0400 Subject: Peel connection, just barely Message-ID: From Billboard... I like the reference to "One of the worst Eurovision entries of all time." Wow, how low can you go?? tom r Eurovision: Belgium Doesn't Qualify, Lithuania Does X-URL: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002539423 Eurovision: Belgium Doesn't Qualify, Lithuania Does May 19, 2006, 11:00 AM ET Fred Bronson, Athens Ten songs from the Eurovision Song Contest semi-final have advanced to tomorrow's (May 20) final in Athens, but pre-contest favorite "Je T'Adore" by Belgium's Kate Ryan is not among the qualifiers. More surprising, the nursery-rhyme like "We Are the Winners" by LT United from Lithuania, considered by many to be one of the worst Eurovision entries of all time, made it through to the final. The semi-final of the 51st Eurovision Song Contest was broadcast live Thursday night to over 100 million viewers throughout Europe. After the 23 songs were performed, phone lines were opened for 10 minutes. As the show drew to its close after two and a half hours, hosts Sakis Rouvas and Maria Menounos opened 10 envelopes containing the names of the countries that had received the highest amount of votes from viewers. The first envelope opened contained a card with "Russia" written on it. That was not a surprise, as Dima Bilan's "Never Let You Go" is one of the favorites to win the competition on Saturday night. Other countries that qualified were Armenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Finland, Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Ireland, Sweden, Turkey and Ukraine. Armenia is a first-time entrant. Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal monster-outfitted act Lordi (described as a cross between Kiss and the Klingons) could give the Finnish their most successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard Rock Hallelujah." Ireland, the country that has won the most contests, is back in after not making it out of the semi-final last year. Lithuania's "We Are the Winners" was one of two songs in the semi-final that made direct reference to winning Eurovision. The other, "Congratulations" by Iceland's Silvia Night, did not qualify. The Icelandic song, as well as the entire presentation, was meant as a joke but Europe didn't get it, as indicated by the loud booing in the hall during the performance. Silvia Night, a character on a television show in Iceland, had offended many by singing an expletive in her song, and by cursing the television crew during rehearsals. When warned by the European Broadcasting Union that she would be disqualified if she sang the expletive during the live broadcast, Night replied, "I'll f***ing say what I f***ing want." On the night, she sang, "I'll freaking win" as she had intended all along, but it was too late to appeal to televoters. It also didn't help that during a press conference she had one of her bodyguards physically remove a journalist for looking her in the eyes. The "journalist" was an actress, but it wasn't reported that way on Greek television. Other countries that didn't qualify for the Eurovision final were Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Monaco, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal and Slovenia. Anzej Dezan had also been a favorite with the Slovenian entry, "Mr. Nobody," but the absence of Belgium remains the biggest surprise. "Je T'Adore" was not only a fan favorite, but a panel of experts assembled by BBC News in the United Kingdom had selected the Belgian song as the winner among all 37 entries. Viewers have a wide choice of music to choose from, including country (Germany), new age (Norway), a cappella (Latvia), retro '60s pop (Denmark), rap (United Kingdom), cool jazz (Spain), dance pop (Malta) and ballad (Ireland) as well as Finland's heavy metal entry. 51st Eurovision Song Contest finalists: 1. "If We All Give a Little," Six4One (Switzerland) 2. "Loca," Arsenium featuring Natalia Gordienko & Connect-R (Moldova) 3. "Together We Are One," Eddie Butler (Israel) 4. "I Hear Your Heart," Cosmos (Latvia) 5. "Alvedansen," Christine Guldbrandsen (Norway) 6. "Bloody Mary," Las Ketchup (Spain) 7. "I Do," Fabrizio Faniello (Malta) 8. "No No Never," Texas Lightning (Germany) 9. "Twist of Love," Sidsel Ben Semmane (Denmark) 10. "Never Let You Go," Dima Bilan (Russia) 11. "Ninanajna," Elena Risteska (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) 12. "Tornero," Mihai Traistariu (Romania) 13. "Lejla," Hari Mata Hari (Bosnia & Herzegovina) 14. "We Are the Winners," LT United (Lithuania) 15. "Teenage Life," Daz Sampson (United Kingdom) 16. "Everything," Anna Vissi (Greece) 17. "Hard Rock Hallelujah," Lordi (Finland) 18. "Show Me Your Love," Tina Karol (Ukraine) 19. "Il Etait Temps," Virginie Pouchain (France) 20. "Moja Stikla," Severina (Croatia) 21. "Every Song Is a Cry for Love," Brian Kennedy (Ireland) 22. "Invincible," Carola (Sweden) 23. "Superstar," Sibel Tuzun (Turkey) 24. "Without Your Love," Andre (Armenia) From john.bravin@... Sat May 20 08:41:33 2006 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:41:33 +0200 Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <446EBA1D.50404@...> ... and if you close one eye and one ear and squint aurally at the entry from Lithuania you can almost hear Napalm Death. I think John would have liked this entry. John >>> Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal monster-outfitted act Lordi could give the Finnish their most successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard Rock Hallelujah." From hangthedj@... Sat May 20 09:12:12 2006 From: hangthedj@... (hangthedj) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:12:12 +0100 Subject: Amazulu In-Reply-To: <446EBA1D.50404@...> References: <446EBA1D.50404@...> Message-ID: Can anyone let me know the broadcast date of this Amazulu session on Peel? Fussing And Fighting Nyah Dayah You'll Never Walk Alone Cairo Amazulu It's not listed here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/artists/a/ thanks! From john.bravin@... Sat May 20 09:19:34 2006 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 09:19:34 +0200 Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: <446EBA1D.50404@...> References: <446EBA1D.50404@...> Message-ID: <446EC306.3050301@...> Of course I meant Finland, not Lithuania - the problems of typing with one eye closed John Bravin wrote: > ... and if you close one eye and one ear and squint aurally at the entry > from Lithuania you can almost hear Napalm Death. I think John would have > liked this entry. > > John > > >>> > Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never > placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal > monster-outfitted act Lordi could give the Finnish their most > successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard > Rock Hallelujah." From martin2@... Sat May 20 09:25:13 2006 From: martin2@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:25:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] Amazulu In-Reply-To: References: <446EBA1D.50404@...> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060520082408.01f134c0@...> At 08:12 20/05/2006, you wrote: > > >Can anyone let me know the broadcast date of this Amazulu session on Peel? > >Fussing And Fighting >Nyah Dayah >You'll Never Walk Alone >Cairo >Amazulu > >It's not listed here: >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/artists/a/ > >thanks! > 7-7-82 according to the book where Track 2 is called Neya Neya martinw From martin2@... Sat May 20 09:31:58 2006 From: martin2@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:31:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: <446EBA1D.50404@...> References: <446EBA1D.50404@...> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060520083116.01df4378@...> At 07:41 20/05/2006, you wrote: > >... and if you close one eye and one ear and squint aurally at the entry >from Lithuania you can almost hear Napalm Death. I think John would have >liked this entry. > >John > > >>> >Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never >placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal >monster-outfitted act Lordi could give the Finnish their most >successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard >Rock Hallelujah." > I believe they have a session imminent on The Rock Show martinw From hangthedj@... Sat May 20 09:46:55 2006 From: hangthedj@... (hangthedj) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:46:55 +0100 Subject: [peel] Amazulu In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20060520082408.01f134c0@...> References: <446EBA1D.50404@...> <6.2.1.2.0.20060520082408.01f134c0@...> Message-ID: thanks for that martinw I can't be sure of the full spelling, but there is definitely a 'D' on the second word, Neya Deya? cheers! >At 08:12 20/05/2006, you wrote: > > >Can anyone let me know the broadcast date of this Amazulu session on Peel? >7-7-82 according to the book where Track 2 is called Neya Neya martinw From martin2@... Sat May 20 11:48:32 2006 From: martin2@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:48:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Amazulu In-Reply-To: References: <446EBA1D.50404@...> <6.2.1.2.0.20060520082408.01f134c0@...> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060520104635.0207d710@...> At 08:46 20/05/2006, you wrote: > >thanks for that martinw >I can't be sure of the full spelling, but there is definitely a 'D' >on the second word, Neya Deya? >cheers! > >>At 08:12 20/05/2006, you wrote: >> >> >Can anyone let me know the broadcast date of this Amazulu session on Peel? >>7-7-82 according to the book where Track 2 is called Neya Neya > I have no opinions on it. I'm just saying what it says in Ken Garner's session book which is copied from the BBC session sheet. So that's they called it on that day - they may have called it something different the following day of course! martinw From festive50@... Sat May 20 22:20:58 2006 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 21:20:58 +0100 Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: <446EC306.3050301@...> Message-ID: God! I'm actually watching it and the UK entry has just come on and this poor man's emminem has just included "Teenage kicks" in the lyrics. What a cheek. I think JP would be rolling about in his grave at this. The Lithuania one, apart from being dross, not so much a "boy band" more of a "man band", including a Harry Hill lookee likee. Looking forward to the Finland entry just about to come on. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John Bravin Sent: 20 May 2006 08:20 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel connection, just barely Of course I meant Finland, not Lithuania - the problems of typing with one eye closed John Bravin wrote: > ... and if you close one eye and one ear and squint aurally at the entry > from Lithuania you can almost hear Napalm Death. I think John would have > liked this entry. > > John > > >>> > Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never > placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal > monster-outfitted act Lordi could give the Finnish their most > successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard > Rock Hallelujah." Yahoo! Groups Links From garry_latham@... Sun May 21 10:54:20 2006 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:54:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060521085420.33289.qmail@...> Wow! Does this mean we can get to discuss eurovision on here?! Which is cool as we're very happy in our household as my girlfriend is Finnish. Although my favourite song was the Lithuanian one. Tom Roche wrote: From Billboard... I like the reference to "One of the worst Eurovision entries of all time." Wow, how low can you go?? tom r Eurovision: Belgium Doesn't Qualify, Lithuania Does X-URL: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002539423 Eurovision: Belgium Doesn't Qualify, Lithuania Does May 19, 2006, 11:00 AM ET Fred Bronson, Athens Ten songs from the Eurovision Song Contest semi-final have advanced to tomorrow's (May 20) final in Athens, but pre-contest favorite "Je T'Adore" by Belgium's Kate Ryan is not among the qualifiers. More surprising, the nursery-rhyme like "We Are the Winners" by LT United from Lithuania, considered by many to be one of the worst Eurovision entries of all time, made it through to the final. The semi-final of the 51st Eurovision Song Contest was broadcast live Thursday night to over 100 million viewers throughout Europe. After the 23 songs were performed, phone lines were opened for 10 minutes. As the show drew to its close after two and a half hours, hosts Sakis Rouvas and Maria Menounos opened 10 envelopes containing the names of the countries that had received the highest amount of votes from viewers. The first envelope opened contained a card with "Russia" written on it. That was not a surprise, as Dima Bilan's "Never Let You Go" is one of the favorites to win the competition on Saturday night. Other countries that qualified were Armenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Finland, Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Ireland, Sweden, Turkey and Ukraine. Armenia is a first-time entrant. Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal monster-outfitted act Lordi (described as a cross between Kiss and the Klingons) could give the Finnish their most successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard Rock Hallelujah." Ireland, the country that has won the most contests, is back in after not making it out of the semi-final last year. Lithuania's "We Are the Winners" was one of two songs in the semi-final that made direct reference to winning Eurovision. The other, "Congratulations" by Iceland's Silvia Night, did not qualify. The Icelandic song, as well as the entire presentation, was meant as a joke but Europe didn't get it, as indicated by the loud booing in the hall during the performance. Silvia Night, a character on a television show in Iceland, had offended many by singing an expletive in her song, and by cursing the television crew during rehearsals. When warned by the European Broadcasting Union that she would be disqualified if she sang the expletive during the live broadcast, Night replied, "I'll f***ing say what I f***ing want." On the night, she sang, "I'll freaking win" as she had intended all along, but it was too late to appeal to televoters. It also didn't help that during a press conference she had one of her bodyguards physically remove a journalist for looking her in the eyes. The "journalist" was an actress, but it wasn't reported that way on Greek television. Other countries that didn't qualify for the Eurovision final were Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Monaco, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal and Slovenia. Anzej Dezan had also been a favorite with the Slovenian entry, "Mr. Nobody," but the absence of Belgium remains the biggest surprise. "Je T'Adore" was not only a fan favorite, but a panel of experts assembled by BBC News in the United Kingdom had selected the Belgian song as the winner among all 37 entries. Viewers have a wide choice of music to choose from, including country (Germany), new age (Norway), a cappella (Latvia), retro '60s pop (Denmark), rap (United Kingdom), cool jazz (Spain), dance pop (Malta) and ballad (Ireland) as well as Finland's heavy metal entry. 51st Eurovision Song Contest finalists: 1. "If We All Give a Little," Six4One (Switzerland) 2. "Loca," Arsenium featuring Natalia Gordienko & Connect-R (Moldova) 3. "Together We Are One," Eddie Butler (Israel) 4. "I Hear Your Heart," Cosmos (Latvia) 5. "Alvedansen," Christine Guldbrandsen (Norway) 6. "Bloody Mary," Las Ketchup (Spain) 7. "I Do," Fabrizio Faniello (Malta) 8. "No No Never," Texas Lightning (Germany) 9. "Twist of Love," Sidsel Ben Semmane (Denmark) 10. "Never Let You Go," Dima Bilan (Russia) 11. "Ninanajna," Elena Risteska (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) 12. "Tornero," Mihai Traistariu (Romania) 13. "Lejla," Hari Mata Hari (Bosnia & Herzegovina) 14. "We Are the Winners," LT United (Lithuania) 15. "Teenage Life," Daz Sampson (United Kingdom) 16. "Everything," Anna Vissi (Greece) 17. "Hard Rock Hallelujah," Lordi (Finland) 18. "Show Me Your Love," Tina Karol (Ukraine) 19. "Il Etait Temps," Virginie Pouchain (France) 20. "Moja Stikla," Severina (Croatia) 21. "Every Song Is a Cry for Love," Brian Kennedy (Ireland) 22. "Invincible," Carola (Sweden) 23. "Superstar," Sibel Tuzun (Turkey) 24. "Without Your Love," Andre (Armenia) SPONSORED LINKS Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school Wedding music Music Pop music --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From garry_latham@... Sun May 21 10:58:35 2006 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:58:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20060520083116.01df4378@...> Message-ID: <20060521085835.30897.qmail@...> I'm not surprised. as they are already big in Finland, and Finnish bands seem to be very popular with the UK rock press at the moment. Martin Wheatley wrote: I believe they have a session imminent on The Rock Show martinw --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From garry_latham@... Sun May 21 11:03:02 2006 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:03:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060521090302.9172.qmail@...> I thought the Lithuanian entry would be would be more appreciated in the UK as it was taking the piss out of Eurovision, we is pretty much would be do every year. Phil Edwards wrote: God! I'm actually watching it and the UK entry has just come on and this poor man's emminem has just included "Teenage kicks" in the lyrics. What a cheek. I think JP would be rolling about in his grave at this. The Lithuania one, apart from being dross, not so much a "boy band" more of a "man band", including a Harry Hill lookee likee. Looking forward to the Finland entry just about to come on. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John Bravin Sent: 20 May 2006 08:20 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel connection, just barely Of course I meant Finland, not Lithuania - the problems of typing with one eye closed John Bravin wrote: > ... and if you close one eye and one ear and squint aurally at the entry > from Lithuania you can almost hear Napalm Death. I think John would have > liked this entry. > > John > > >>> > Finland has failed to qualify in previous semi-finals and has never > placed higher than sixth in the final competition. Heavy-metal > monster-outfitted act Lordi could give the Finnish their most > successful entry in Eurovision history with the pyrotechnic-laden "Hard > Rock Hallelujah." Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school Wedding music Music Pop music --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From vicarage@... Mon May 22 14:38:31 2006 From: vicarage@... (Jon) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:38:31 -0000 Subject: Peel connection, just barely In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > God! > I'm actually watching it and the UK entry has just come on and this poor > man's emminem has just included "Teenage kicks" in the lyrics. What a cheek. > I think JP would be rolling about in his grave at this. Well, considering it was co-written and produced by Ricardo Autobahn out of the Cuban Boys, he might actually have played it! I noticed the "teenage kicks" reference and knowing who wrote it, thought it might be some kind of tribute. I actually quite like it(!) It's definitely a grower. Best UK entry for quite some years, if not ever, though admittedly that's not to say very much. Still, glad that Finland won :) Jon From bingoandsnork@... Mon May 22 16:23:10 2006 From: bingoandsnork@... (dc) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:23:10 -0000 Subject: kwaya na kisser's peel vote Message-ID: While looking through my favourite blogs I noticed that kwaya was offering to post up some peel sessions by request. He's most likely to post the most requested, but then again he might just post 'cos he likes the idea. http://knkisser.blogspot.com/2006/05/john-peel-sessions.html#links From dr_mango2004@... Thu May 25 17:49:24 2006 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:49:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: Peel shows In-Reply-To: <28557.195.188.213.34.1132704189.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <20060525154924.35140.qmail@...> Hi Phil. NeilC suggested that I drop you a line. Earlier this year I was doing my best to download the shows that dubster was putting on his blogspot page. This was a bit of a pain, as I didn't have broadband access at home at the time and I was having to do it at work, so kept coming a cropper with the blasted proxy server / download limit exceeded problem. Anyway, I got a good collection of them, but then I went a couple of weeks at the end of Feb / early March without downloading any before illness struck me down for a fortnight and I was off work. When I got back, he'd pulled all the shows from his page. I'd been keeping an ongoing list of the ones that he'd posted so I could tick them off when I got them. My list ends on Wedneday 8 March (Finnish shows), so I don't know if he posted many more after that. Anyway, the point of this waffle is, I'd like to get copies of the ones I missed and I wonder if you downloaded them? Thanks in advance for your help / time. Dr Mango --------------------------------- Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... From dr_mango2004@... Thu May 25 17:50:59 2006 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:50:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Peel shows In-Reply-To: <20060525154924.35140.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20060525155059.54250.qmail@...> Damn. Meant to send this privately, not to the whole group! But if anyone can assist... Dr Mango wrote: Hi Phil. NeilC suggested that I drop you a line. Earlier this year I was doing my best to download the shows that dubster was putting on his blogspot page. This was a bit of a pain, as I didn't have broadband access at home at the time and I was having to do it at work, so kept coming a cropper with the blasted proxy server / download limit exceeded problem. Anyway, I got a good collection of them, but then I went a couple of weeks at the end of Feb / early March without downloading any before illness struck me down for a fortnight and I was off work. When I got back, he'd pulled all the shows from his page. I'd been keeping an ongoing list of the ones that he'd posted so I could tick them off when I got them. My list ends on Wedneday 8 March (Finnish shows), so I don't know if he posted many more after that. Anyway, the point of this waffle is, I'd like to get copies of the ones I missed and I wonder if you downloaded them? Thanks in advance for your help / time. Dr Mango --------------------------------- Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... SPONSORED LINKS Music on hold systems Music for advertising Music school Wedding music Music Pop music --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. From festive50@... Fri May 26 02:09:04 2006 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 01:09:04 +0100 Subject: Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: <20060525154924.35140.qmail@...> Message-ID: Dandelion Radio is now a real entity If any of you have been listening to Rob Da Bank this evening, you may have heard him mention us. We are finally live and LEGAL. We have all of the necessary licenses etc. Just to give you a taster, below is a bit of blurb from our MySpace page which can be found at http://www.dandelionradio.com Dandelion Radio is an internet radio station inspired by the work of the much-missed UK DJ John Peel. In an age where terrestrial radio stations are increasingly moving towards automated output, combining pre-recorded DJ links with a predictable playlist, and where most internet radio stations seem to be simply a stream of uploaded MP3s with no effort on the part of the DJ, our aim is to provide a challenging, unpredictable and often uncompromising mix of new and old music, selected by DJs who love it and presented by those DJs in a traditional radio style in shows recorded as live. We want to serve the needs of the people who create and distribute new and interesting music and, thereby, provide a unique listening experience to listeners, with the spirit of John running through all we do. The main Dandelion Radio website is currently being revised & updated. In the mean time any demos/ CDs are welcome. The first stream is 8 hours long and consists of shows from five different DJs, Andrew Morrison (The John Peel Disclaimer Man) , Dan Barrell, Mark Rosney, Neil Jenkins & Rocker. The shows will loop continuously, starting at midnight, over the next month, so if you can't listen to it in one go, pop in when you can and see what you get. The target is to update the shows monthly. At the moment, being funded entirely from our own pockets, bandwidth is limited. If you do have trouble listening, PLEASE try again later. Also if you do get connection problems, send us a message & we'll try & rectify things. Happy listening. Thanks to everyone who has sent in DEMOs & CDs, keep them coming. Everything gets a listen. At the moment, we are experiencing Streaming problems, whereby the stream is supposed to be refreshed each day at midnight, which should be sorted very shortly. Phil Edwards From saipanda@... Fri May 26 13:25:35 2006 From: saipanda@... (saipanda) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 11:25:35 -0000 Subject: Peel shows In-Reply-To: <20060525154924.35140.qmail@...> Message-ID: Hi, Courtesy of the wonderful johnpeeleveryday page, think the links you are looking for may be at the following: http://johnpeelpages.blogspot.com/ Not sure if they still work. Good luck! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > Hi Phil. > > NeilC suggested that I drop you a line. Earlier this year I was doing my best to download the shows that dubster was putting on his blogspot page. This was a bit of a pain, as I didn't have broadband access at home at the time and I was having to do it at work, so kept coming a cropper with the blasted proxy server / download limit exceeded problem. Anyway, I got a good collection of them, but then I went a couple of weeks at the end of Feb / early March without downloading any before illness struck me down for a fortnight and I was off work. When I got back, he'd pulled all the shows from his page. I'd been keeping an ongoing list of the ones that he'd posted so I could tick them off when I got them. My list ends on Wedneday 8 March (Finnish shows), so I don't know if he posted many more after that. Anyway, the point of this waffle is, I'd like to get copies of the ones I missed and I wonder if you downloaded them? > > Thanks in advance for your help / time. > > Dr Mango > > > --------------------------------- > Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... > From sploozed@... Fri May 26 13:52:52 2006 From: sploozed@... (Mark) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 12:52:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060526115252.41821.qmail@...> That's really good news Phil. I used to be part of the relevant newsgroup and I've been waiting to try it out. I don't have time now, but I did want to wish you good luck. I would love to contribute a show in the line of rare black music Peely has played over the years. I'm probably a rarity in liking the soul and Reggae since the mid seventies. So I have some real rarities in that area. But I'm very averse to the recorded sound of my voice and I'm sure you'll come up with enough dulcet tones to fill the spaces long before I pluck up the courage. Anyway all the best and I'll be listening soon. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From paul@... Fri May 26 14:18:02 2006 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:18:02 +0100 Subject: Peel favourites on TV - Bonzos and Viv Stanshall Message-ID: <00e701c680be$6fcf3570$0201a8c0@...> The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band... on BBC 4 (Digital TV) on Friday 2nd June 2006 at 22:00 to 23:00 40th Anniversary Celebration The original line-up reunite for the first time since the early 1970s split for a concert at the Astoria Theatre in London. Special guests Stephen Fry, Adrian Edmondson, Phill Jupitus and Paul Merton take the part of the late Vivian Stanshall. All four were inspired by the band's surreal combination of music, comedy, vaudeville and sheer lunacy. -------------------- No doubt this is a cut down version of the DVD that was issued recently. I was at the show - and my balding pate was visible a few times on the DVD! Followed by a repeat of the Viv Stanshall piece -------------------- Vivian Stanshall - The Canyons of His Mind on BBC 4 (Digital TV) on Friday 2nd June 2006 at 23:00 to 00:00 The life story of one of the founders and lead singer of The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band. Starting with Stanshall's Southend upbringing, the programme also takes in his art school days, his spell with the Bonzo Dog band, the Peel Show monologue, his comic opera Stinkfoot through to his death in a fire. Lifetime fan Stephen Fry is among the contributors, along with John Peel, Jack Bruce and Bonzo members Neil Innes, Legs Larry Smith and Rodney Slater. Paul Webster Check out http://www.dandelionradio.com From paul@... Fri May 26 14:26:54 2006 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:26:54 +0100 Subject: [peel] Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: <20060526115252.41821.qmail@...> Message-ID: <00ec01c680bf$acd35e00$0201a8c0@...> > I would love to contribute a show in the line of rare > black music Peely has played over the years. I'm > probably a rarity in liking the soul and Reggae since > the mid seventies. So I have some real rarities in > that area. If you have any rare Desmond Dekker then you might want to go and dig it out and play it again. (He died on Wednesday but doesn't seem to have been reported until today) Paul Webster Backroom at Dandelion Radio From roger.carruthers@... Fri May 26 16:51:32 2006 From: roger.carruthers@... (roger3905) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 14:51:32 -0000 Subject: New Blog - The Furtive Fifty Message-ID: Hi Team, just put up my first post at http://furtivefifty.blogspot.com/ It is, of course going to be chock full of Peely goodness (eventually), but for now, I've posted a recording of Billy Bragg that I made a couple of weeks ago, when he played here in Cardiff. Enjoy! R From worldopeek@... Sun May 28 01:12:58 2006 From: worldopeek@... (Erik) Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 19:12:58 -0400 Subject: New Blog - The Furtive Fifty References: <1148725057.1233.12613.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: A nice start to a nice blog... And yes, we can always use another Peel blog... I am not sure there ever can be enough tributes to him... > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 5 > From: "roger3905" roger.carruthers@... > Date: Fri May 26, 2006 7:52am(PDT) > Subject: New Blog - The Furtive Fifty > > Hi Team, > just put up my first post at http://furtivefifty.blogspot.com/ > It is, of course going to be chock full of Peely goodness (eventually), > but for now, I've posted > a recording of Billy Bragg that I made a couple of weeks ago, when he > played here in Cardiff. > Enjoy! > R > From djhc2@... Sun May 28 12:32:46 2006 From: djhc2@... (djsilverheels) Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 10:32:46 -0000 Subject: Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's great that there is another Peel-inspired music source out there - and such a diverse one. Do other readers of this group agree with me that since Peel's death, there might be more to be said for continuing his search for new and exciting music, than on trying to track down a Delta 5 session from 1979? Not that I'm not up for that, it's just that Peel seemed to be all about new music, rather than nostalgia. Dandelion Radio will be a great contribution to that side of things. The only thing I wish was that it could be available as a podcast - something I wish Marcelle could do with Another Nice Mess. Listening at the computer is not always easy. Do others on the list realize there are loads of Peel-inspired podcasts available on-line? These have been keeping me going for months, and are often exceptionally good. If you want recommendations I sincerely think Peel would be proud of can I suggest The Contrast Podcast (contributions from music bloggers & podcasters from all over the world) - 1 hour weekly http://www.timyoung.net/contrast Short Attention Span Radio (Peel would like this) - 45 mins fortnightly http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ The Yank Sizzler (What Peel apparently called American tracks he like - from Kansas) - 1 hour about fortnightly http://theyanksizzler.libsyn.com/ Not Your Usual Bollocks (excellent, London based, fronted by a Kiwi, but regrettably becoming less frequent than the original weekly show) - 1 hour http://notyourusualbollocks.squarespace.com/ Brentwood's Only Alternative - new from Essex, 1 hour, but great music choices. http://www.phoenixfm.com/boa/podcast.php There are others (there is a massive Scottish podcasting scene which you may already know about) ask if you want more recommendations, podcasts are the way forward), but if anyone on the list is looking for more to supplement their listening, these fan-based jobs might be worth a listen. For my part, I'm grateful to Phil for providing another new source (but can you do a podcast of it too?!) DC From hubcity@... Sun May 28 13:59:26 2006 From: hubcity@... (Sean Carolan) Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 07:59:26 -0400 Subject: [peel] Re: Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20060528075926.00f582f8@...> All, I'm running one myself - or rather, one that tries to emulate the commercial station I was once at, which itself took a lot of cues from Peel. It was only in the last few years that I got a better grasp on Peel as the ultimate source of a lot of the music we added. Frankly, Peel would likely tire of my station; it has a high "pasty white teens with guitars" - or "people who once were pasty white teens with guitars" - quotient. If that doesn't put you off you might want to check it out. Heck, I just added The Pocket Gods, New Jersey's own Little Killers, and a new track from The Coachwhips new cd/dvd to the library, so it can't be all bad... http://www.altrokradio.com There's a new eight-hour playlist every day, two of them on Thursday-Saturday (the later one being more dance-oriented) and the daytime playlist Friday focuses on the eighties (while trying its damndest not to be about nostalgia...after all, you can't claim it makes memories flood back if you haven't heard it before...) In fact, since Monday's a holiday here in the US, I've chosen a playlist made entirely of the "power tracks" picked since the station's inception. They're called "grinders", since "power rotation" tends to grind 'em into our listeners' brains (or so I'd like to think.) The first one out of the chute is "Don't Delete My Frog" by Hyper-Kinako. On the other hand, I'm a-gonna be listening to Dandelion Radio, too. I had the great fortune to hear their test broadcasts, and they're putting a lot of heart into giving it a human personality (while I put most of my effort into taking the "somebody's iPod playlist" nature of most web stations and seeing how far I can twist it.) -Sean At 10:32 AM 5/28/2006 -0000, you wrote: >It's great that there is another Peel-inspired music source out >there - and such a diverse one. Do other readers of this group agree >with me that since Peel's death, there might be more to be said for >continuing his search for new and exciting music, than on trying to >track down a Delta 5 session from 1979? Not that I'm not up for >that, it's just that Peel seemed to be all about new music, rather >than nostalgia. Dandelion Radio will be a great contribution to that >side of things. > >The only thing I wish was that it could be available as a podcast - >something I wish Marcelle could do with Another Nice Mess. Listening >at the computer is not always easy. > >Do others on the list realize there are loads of Peel-inspired >podcasts available on-line? These have been keeping me going for >months, and are often exceptionally good. If you want >recommendations I sincerely think Peel would be proud of can I >suggest > >The Contrast Podcast (contributions from music bloggers & podcasters >from all over the world) - 1 hour weekly >http://www.timyoung.net/contrast > >Short Attention Span Radio (Peel would like this) - 45 mins >fortnightly >http://sasradio.blogspot.com/ > >The Yank Sizzler (What Peel apparently called American tracks he >like - from Kansas) - 1 hour about fortnightly >http://theyanksizzler.libsyn.com/ > >Not Your Usual Bollocks (excellent, London based, fronted by a Kiwi, >but regrettably becoming less frequent than the original weekly >show) - 1 hour >http://notyourusualbollocks.squarespace.com/ > >Brentwood's Only Alternative - new from Essex, 1 hour, but great >music choices. >http://www.phoenixfm.com/boa/podcast.php > >There are others (there is a massive Scottish podcasting scene which >you may already know about) ask if you want more recommendations, >podcasts are the way forward), but if anyone on the list is looking >for more to supplement their listening, these fan-based jobs might >be worth a listen. For my part, I'm grateful to Phil for providing >another new source (but can you do a podcast of it too?!) > >DC > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > From paul@... Sun May 28 18:24:00 2006 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 17:24:00 0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Dandelion Radio Message-ID: "djsilverheels" wrote: __________ >It's great that there is another Peel-inspired music source out >there - and such a diverse one. Do other readers of this group agree >with me that since Peel's death, there might be more to be said for >continuing his search for new and exciting music, than on trying to >track down a Delta 5 session from 1979? Not that I'm not up for >that, it's just that Peel seemed to be all about new music, rather >than nostalgia. Dandelion Radio will be a great contribution to that >side of things. > >The only thing I wish was that it could be available as a podcast - >something I wish Marcelle could do with Another Nice Mess. Listening >at the computer is not always easy. We would have no problem doing the shows as podcasts. However. one of the objectives that we set ourselves was to do it keep it 'legal'. The icence that we have ony allows streaming ... with various other constraints. I guess that an 'unsigned bns only' approach would be one way to sidestep things since the artists would probably be happy to hve their material played ithout asking for any payment, but we did not want to limit ourselves, if anyone has a relatively low cost way to podcast such music legally then I am sure we'd look into it. Paul From festive50@... Sun May 28 19:50:40 2006 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 18:50:40 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of djsilverheels wrote .... For my part, I'm grateful to Phil for providing another new source .... Just to put this in perspective. I just happened to post the message announcing the laqunch of Dandelion Radio. In fact I'm just a small cog in the wheel of our little team. Consisting of 5 regular DJs Andrew Morrison Neil Jenkins Mark Rosney Rocker and last but not least Dan Barrell Plus we have Paul Webster Alan Neil C and myself in backroom/admin roles. Mind you this is not a hard and fast breakdown, as some of the DJ' have also been involved in some of the "Techy" stuff with regards to design of logos etc. and the sorting out and compiling of the stream. I'm also having a go at compiling a show (don't know whether it will ever get broadcast - we'll see). Not an official communiqu�, but just to let you all know I'm not Dandelion Radio, just one of a keen and eager bunch of like minded individuals inspired by John Peel, who make up the whole team. Phil Edwards From martin2@... Sun May 28 22:41:06 2006 From: martin2@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 21:41:06 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20060528213235.01f771a0@...> >Do others on the list realize there are loads of Peel-inspired >podcasts available on-line? These have been keeping me going for >months, and are often exceptionally good. If you want >recommendations I sincerely think Peel would be proud of can I >suggest > I agree that Podcasts are a useful thing. They do tend to be at a slightly lower bitrate than some of the actual broadcasts. For those who don't know You need Podcasting software I use iPodder but I don't claim it's the best - just the first I happened to come across when I was looking. Others probably have other preferences What happens is that it downloads episodes of the podcasts you subscribe to when they become available at a time that suits you (mine is set to 5AM) It's not realistic for those without broadband. Radio 1 has a new band podcast (see the One World page) Also since Peel was about width as well as new rather than old can I recommend http://www.dubsession.com/podcastbroadcast.htm which gives me an hour of dub every week martinw From her_thing@... Mon May 29 03:42:31 2006 From: her_thing@... (her_thing) Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 01:42:31 -0000 Subject: Song searches from Peel shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Incase this hasn't already been answered, the first one is "Overshadowing Me" by Kit Yes, I think they may have been from the Liverpool area. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "nicepudneyman48" wrote: > > Don't know about the first one but the description of the madman > shouting and the trumpet has to be "Paralysed" by the Legendary > Stardust Cowboy. A CD of the cowboy is available on Amazon, I think. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > > > > Hello to all. > > > > A couple of people on a music forum I visit have mentioned songs > that they heard on the John Peel show back in the day and yes, now > they'd like to know the artist and song title. Here's what they > remember: > > > > 1. The listener remembers the line, "tonight I did a terrible > thing". He writes, > > > > "must have been late 80's/early 90's. female singer and for some > reason i think the band might have been from liverpool. john peel > certainly played a couple of tracks by them. > > > > the lyrics i have in my head are > > > > tonight i did a terrible thing > > i don't know what came over me > > ?? > > ?? > > only to find you see through my lies > > ?? > > forgetting how well you know me > > > > it's not important but i will lose my mind if you can't help" > > > > 2. Patient #2 writes: > > > > "What song are these from, and by whom?..It was a song i taped > off John Peel years ago and it seemed to consist of a madman > screaming insane lyrics while his equally mad trumpeting friend goes > berserk in the background..anyway > > > > Don't Take me for Granite > > Because i'm feeling a little bolder > > I've got funny little men with rucksacks, > > Climbing up my shoulder > > > > I remember Peel playing it a lot at the time. Mid-late 80s. > > > > Any help would be appreciated! > > > > Dr Mango > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > From djhc2@... Wed May 31 18:15:17 2006 From: djhc2@... (djsilverheels) Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 16:15:17 -0000 Subject: Dandelion Radio Message-ID: Ah, fair enough - although I think a lot of these podcasts showcase new music from bands who put their work up for nothing anyway, some of the tracks they play are too old not to have been taken from an album and played. Either way it's good to know that Dandelion is keeping it Peel, I look forward to listening. In combination there will be plenty to listen to. Good luck and thanks again. DC --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Webster" wrote: > We would have no problem doing the shows as podcasts. However. one of the objectives that we set ourselves was to do it keep it 'legal'. > The icence that we have ony allows streaming ... with various other constraints. > I guess that an 'unsigned bns only' approach would be one way to sidestep things since the artists would probably be happy to hve their material played ithout asking for any payment, but we did not want to limit ourselves, > if anyone has a relatively low cost way to podcast such music legally then I am sure we'd look into it. > > Paul > From paul@... Wed May 31 19:06:10 2006 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:06:10 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Dandelion Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00d201c684d4$845a6e50$0201a8c0@...> Looks like there was a problem with the extremities of my keyboard as I wrote that stuff below. It wrote it on a PDA and obviously didn't look carefully enough at the result! Thanks all for not having at a go at me ;) Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > djsilverheels > Sent: 31 May 2006 17:15 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: Dandelion Radio > > > Ah, fair enough - although I think a lot of these podcasts showcase new > music from bands who put their work up for nothing anyway, some of the > tracks they play are too old not to have been taken from an album and > played. Either way it's good to know that Dandelion is keeping it Peel, > I look forward to listening. In combination there will be plenty to > listen to. Good luck and thanks again. > > DC > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Webster" wrote: > > > We would have no problem doing the shows as podcasts. However. one of > the objectives that we set ourselves was to do it keep it 'legal'. > > The icence that we have ony allows streaming ... with various other > constraints. > > I guess that an 'unsigned bns only' approach would be one way to > sidestep things since the artists would probably be happy to hve their > material played ithout asking for any payment, but we did not want to > limit ourselves, > > if anyone has a relatively low cost way to podcast such music legally > then I am sure we'd look into it. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >