From dbarrell@... Wed Jun 1 10:46:26 2005 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:46:26 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: The F50 In-Reply-To: <20050514123142.35328.qmail@...> References: <20050514123142.35328.qmail@...> Message-ID: <429D75E2.5070003@...> Sorry I didn't reply straight away, birth of a little boy somewhat snarled up my schedule ;-) Michael Gilham wrote: > cheers. that is quite interesting. Did The Wedding Present get much note in it? > >> 1. The Festive Fifty, by Mark Whitby >> From: Daniel Barrell To be honest, I don't know, I haven't a copy. It looks more to be a booklet on listings rather than an exhaustive essay type of thing. Anyone got one? Dan From neil_jenkins.geo@... Wed Jun 1 11:30:30 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:30:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: The F50 In-Reply-To: <429D75E2.5070003@...> Message-ID: <20050601093030.21378.qmail@...> CONGRATULATIONS, DAN!!! I hope Mother and baby are well. And Dad, also!! :-) Daniel Barrell wrote: Sorry I didn't reply straight away, birth of a little boy somewhat snarled up my schedule ;-) Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From r.fewster@... Wed Jun 1 14:33:30 2005 From: r.fewster@... (Richard Fewster) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:33:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050531184925.41232.qmail@...> References: <20050530221128.60087.qmail@...> <20050531184925.41232.qmail@...> Message-ID: <6974965b050601053325e38511@...> Well done that man! All very much from the era when my taping was at its most obsessive. Marvellous to have so many of Peel's reactions to the classic Fall sessions. It works well as an accompaniment to the recent essential Complete Peel Sessions box set. Cheers, Rich On 5/31/05, Garry Latham wrote: > Thank you very much appreciated. > > Garry > > Dr Mango wrote: > > > Evening all. > > I've spent the last couple of weeks going through my collection of John Peel > session tapes. I recorded over 50 sessions, mostly in the period 1989-96, > with some extra ones being taped in the last couple of years. As per Rob a > couple of weeks ago, I snipped out any of Peel's links and have made mp3 > files of these. Some are perfunctory, some quite amusing. I was quite > zealous with the pause button on the whole, but I've managed to amass 37 > clips from my tape collection. My particular favourites are the Fall from > March 1981 (when it was repeated), the Half Man Half Biscuit comments from > 14 Oct 1996 and the Stereolab session from September 1992. > > Files can be found here: > http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/ > > In the same folder is an mp3 of the beginning of the JP show from 11 May > 1991, that I happened to capture because I recorded the "In Concert" > programme that preceded it. There's also a text file called "sessions" that > documents all my Peel and Radio 1 collection. > > Regards, > > Dr Mango > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail > > > > ________________________________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE > with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos ________________________________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE > with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > From robfleay@... Wed Jun 1 15:17:03 2005 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:17:03 +0000 Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips Message-ID: <20050601131703.EYVP26865.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> > Marvellous to have so many of Peel's reactions to the classic Fall > sessions. It works well as an accompaniment to the recent essential > Complete Peel Sessions box set. You could have "the directors cut" of the box set with all the appropriate comments inserted between tracks! call me sad but I'd rather like that..! ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From robstrong@... Wed Jun 1 15:44:16 2005 From: robstrong@... (Rob Strong) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:44:16 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: The F50 References: <20050514123142.35328.qmail@...> <429D75E2.5070003@...> Message-ID: <006c01c566b0$032a2ca0$3f4e2452@oemcomputer> > Michael Gilham wrote: > > cheers. that is quite interesting. Did The Wedding Present get much note in it? > > > >> 1. The Festive Fifty, by Mark Whitby yes - there are articles on Watusi, Seamonsters, Bizarro and George Best (in the Most Successful Festive 50 Albums section), an article on the band at no.2 in the Top 50 Artists section, and they're littered through the rest of the book. Rob From garry_latham@... Wed Jun 1 20:22:52 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:22:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050601131703.EYVP26865.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <20050601182252.11265.qmail@...> If you're sad then so am I. In fact I would like to see all released Peel sessions included with his intros and reactions. robfleay@... wrote:> Marvellous to have so many of Peel's reactions to the classic Fall > sessions. It works well as an accompaniment to the recent essential > Complete Peel Sessions box set. You could have "the directors cut" of the box set with all the appropriate comments inserted between tracks! call me sad but I'd rather like that..! ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From iangwilson@... Wed Jun 1 22:00:07 2005 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:00:07 +0100 Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050601182252.11265.qmail@...> References: <20050601131703.EYVP26865.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> <20050601182252.11265.qmail@...> Message-ID: <7b3563a05060113001f8812be@...> From mar.celle@... Thu Jun 2 09:14:54 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:14:54 +0200 Subject: Dedicated to John Peel Message-ID: <005201c56742$c67fe4a0$9600000a@lan> Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. Thanks for you help!! love Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com From morriso@... Thu Jun 2 13:02:07 2005 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:02:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050602110207.58605.qmail@...> Melys' latest album 'Life's Too Short' is dedicated to John, as is the long-awaited 'Does This Train Stop On Merseyside?' by Amsterdam, and finally released this very week. Andy Marcelle van Hoof wrote: Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. Thanks for you help!! love Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk From jstepek@... Thu Jun 2 13:30:13 2005 From: jstepek@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:30:13 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips Message-ID: <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB3F@...> > From: Garry Latham >Subject: Re: Re: More Peel Clips > >If you're sad then so am I. In fact I would like to see all >released Peel sessions included with his intros and reactions. > Me to! I was involved in putting together the Incredible String Band fan produced collection of radio progs & rarities (7 cd's worth so far) and we managed to find a few of Peel's (and others) intros & outros. Some folk wanted to just have the music but commonsense and my arm-twisting kept them in. The best one was when he said "and that was the incredible string vest" in all seriousness! We are working on part2 just now, another 7 or 8 cd's worth to come (1972-74, The twilight years!) I don't have the time just now but come August I might have time to go through some of my own old tapes, mainly from 76 to 80, to dig out what I have. However, like someone else mentioned, I used to dub the tracks I wanted onto another tape and reuse the originals so might not have many. Student saving money time then. Remind me about the 10th of August after I return from Zappanale! Cheers....Jimmy From moomin@... Thu Jun 2 16:25:32 2005 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:25:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB3F@...> References: <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB3F@...> Message-ID: In message <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB3F@...>, Jimmy Stepek writes >Remind me about the 10th of August after I return from Zappanale! I remember seeing a very old American interview with Peel which named the Mothers of Invention as one of his favourite bands. I don't know if he went on playing later Zappa tunes though. I heard him play old Mothers stuff occasionally. I think he liked the doo-wop! Not my cup of tea really (apart from the doo-wop), but there you go. Strange man, but not as strange as Beefheart. He paid for Beefheart to make Trout Mask Replica, so the world should be very grateful for that. "If there has been anything in the history of popular music which could be described as a work of art in a way that people who are involved in other areas of art would understand, then Trout Mask Replica is probably that work." JP -- simon smith From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 2 16:41:15 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:41:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050530221128.60087.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050602144115.73755.qmail@...> Greetings, good Dr. Mango! Nice to see your name again! This is excellent what you've done and I will now (finally!) make a point of popping in and having a look at your stupendous work! (That and read all the replies sent thus far to your original posting!) How's life, by the way? Dr Mango wrote: Evening all. I've spent the last couple of weeks going through my collection of John Peel session tapes. I recorded over 50 sessions, mostly in the period 1989-96, with some extra ones being taped in the last couple of years. As per Rob a couple of weeks ago, I snipped out any of Peel's links and have made mp3 files of these. Some are perfunctory, some quite amusing. I was quite zealous with the pause button on the whole, but I've managed to amass 37 clips from my tape collection. My particular favourites are the Fall from March 1981 (when it was repeated), the Half Man Half Biscuit comments from 14 Oct 1996 and the Stereolab session from September 1992. Files can be found here: http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/ In the same folder is an mp3 of the beginning of the JP show from 11 May 1991, that I happened to capture because I recorded the "In Concert" programme that preceded it. There's also a text file called "sessions" that documents all my Peel and Radio 1 collection. Regards, Dr Mango Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 2 16:46:31 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:46:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050601131703.EYVP26865.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@...> Message-ID: <20050602144631.92864.qmail@...> That would be absolutely fantastic, wouldn't it!! :-) robfleay@... wrote: You could have "the directors cut" of the box set with all the appropriate comments inserted between tracks! call me sad but I'd rather like that..! Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From aouv78@... Thu Jun 2 17:13:33 2005 From: aouv78@... (Mark Webb) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:13:33 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips References: <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB3F@...> Message-ID: <001801c56785$a44bf5c0$91bf5651@markmokt3irs7w> John 'Drumbo' French dedicated last saturday's Magic Band show in Liverpool to Peel, saying they never would have made it in UK without him, or something along those lines, I was a bit drunk. ----- Original Message ----- From: simon smith To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips Strange man, but not as strange as Beefheart. He paid for Beefheart to make Trout Mask Replica, so the world should be very grateful for that. "If there has been anything in the history of popular music which could be described as a work of art in a way that people who are involved in other areas of art would understand, then Trout Mask Replica is probably that work." JP -- simon smith ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From d.mckinnon@... Thu Jun 2 17:21:59 2005 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:21:59 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips Message-ID: > John 'Drumbo' French dedicated last saturday's Magic Band show in Liverpool to > Peel, saying they never would have made it in UK without him He did the same the following night at Stoke, amid tales of Peel driving them round to gigs and helping them get bailed out of Frankfurt when they got deported. dougal mckinnon senior applications developer information services Tel: 01782 294832 E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 2 17:30:48 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:30:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050602153048.50163.qmail@...> Oh, I hadn't heard that story. What happened? McKINNON Dougal wrote: and helping them get bailed out of Frankfurt when they got deported. Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From moomin@... Thu Jun 2 17:33:34 2005 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:33:34 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <001801c56785$a44bf5c0$91bf5651@markmokt3irs7w> References: <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB3F@...> <001801c56785$a44bf5c0$91bf5651@markmokt3irs7w> Message-ID: In message <001801c56785$a44bf5c0$91bf5651@markmokt3irs7w>, Mark Webb writes >John 'Drumbo' French dedicated last saturday's Magic Band show in >Liverpool to Peel, saying they never would have made it in UK without >him, or something along those lines, I was a bit drunk. It's true! Peel was the only reason British people had heard of Beefheart and the Magic Band in 1967. He played 'Safe as Milk' to death (so I'm told) and, like various other foreign groups coming to the UK, they were amazed to find large, knowledgeable crowds coming to their gigs. I believe he did a programme on which every other song was from TMR. The fact that Beefheart has a larger audience in Britain than the US is *entirely* down to him. He helped them out in lots of other ways too. -- simon smith From d.mckinnon@... Thu Jun 2 17:41:51 2005 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:41:51 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips Message-ID: Drumbo said that when Beefheart and The Magic Band turned up for their first tour they were met by customs officials who demanded to see some work permits. Their tour manager had told them all to pretend to be hear as tourists but they weren't believed so they got thrown out of the country on the first available flight (to Frankfurt). Peel managed to do some (unspecifed)stuff at this end that allowed them to re-enter the country and do the tour. According to Drumbo, anyway.... dougal mckinnon senior applications developer information services Tel: 01782 294832 E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From thebarguest@... Thu Jun 2 18:41:17 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:41:17 -0000 Subject: Trout Mask Replica - What an Original Stink ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I bought this in 81 'cause of all the hype I'd read in the likes of the NME. Couldn't believe how bad it sounded - cacophonous like they couldn't play properly, and some of the vocals sounded like a shack-man from Arkansas ! I did like "Moonlight ..." and "Dachau Blues". Since then I've grown to like it a lot more but I still think its overrated. Matt Groenig (Simpsons) also hated it at first but now its his fave album of all time ......... Best spoken bit : "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is ...." Fast and Bulbous" Going to see Beck tomorrow in Manchester - any good pubs near the Apollo (I am over 35, ha ha) ?? --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "McKINNON Dougal" wrote: > Drumbo said that when Beefheart and The Magic Band turned up for their > first tour they were met by customs officials who demanded to see some > work permits. Their tour manager had told them all to pretend to be > hear as tourists but they weren't believed so they got thrown out of the > country on the first available flight (to Frankfurt). Peel managed to > do some (unspecifed)stuff at this end that allowed them to re-enter the > country and do the tour. > > According to Drumbo, anyway.... > > > dougal mckinnon > senior applications developer > information services > Tel: 01782 294832 > E-mail: d.mckinnon@s... > > The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for > the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on > it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and > any attachment from your computer. From dr_mango2004@... Thu Jun 2 21:15:23 2005 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:15:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: <005201c56742$c67fe4a0$9600000a@lan> Message-ID: <20050602191524.32029.qmail@...> The Wedding Present's "Take Fountain" LP from earlier this year has "Dedicated to the memory of John Peel." on the sleeve. Mango --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From john.bravin@... Thu Jun 2 23:02:15 2005 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:02:15 +0200 Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: <20050602191524.32029.qmail@...> References: <20050602191524.32029.qmail@...> Message-ID: <429F73D7.1010900@...> Some more tracks dedicated to Peel: Government Commissions by Mogwai is dedicated to John Peel and opens with him saying "Ladies and Gentlemen - Mogwai" Any Kinda Music by Leon Wolfe and The Mumba Rumbas was written about and dedicated to John Peel A version of Teenage Kicks by Snow Patrol is dedicated to Peel and can be downloaded from www.snowpatrol.net/teenage_kicks_acoustic.mp3 John Peel Is Not Enough was recorded by the happy hardcore band CLSM Hope this helps John "*/Marcelle van Hoof /* wrote: Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. Thanks for you help!! love Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com From festive50@... Thu Jun 2 23:53:24 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:53:24 +0100 Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: <005201c56742$c67fe4a0$9600000a@lan> Message-ID: There was a Ragga Twins session circa 91/92 where mid track they say something on the lines of "This goes out to Mr John 'Orange Skin' Peel". Also currently listening to a '92 tape in the car, which features The Krispy 3 where they mention John Peel Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Marcelle van Hoof Sent: 02 June 2005 08:15 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. Thanks for you help!! love Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From neil_jenkins.geo@... Fri Jun 3 10:42:26 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:42:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050603084226.5791.qmail@...> There was a Ragga Twins Peel Session/Maida Vale job around '92/'93 where they say "This goes out to Big John Orange Peel". You were close! :-) But I don't think that was released outside the BBC's dusty cupboard. It might be worth having a chat with Hermeet to see if he can somehow "come by it". Phil Edwards wrote: There was a Ragga Twins session circa 91/92 where mid track they say something on the lines of "This goes out to Mr John 'Orange Skin' Peel". Also currently listening to a '92 tape in the car, which features The Krispy 3 where they mention John Peel Phil Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Fri Jun 3 10:58:06 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:58:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050603085806.7575.qmail@...> But I think Marcelle's looking for dedications on new music, preferably written on the sleeve somewhere and not necessarily on the actual track. Phil Edwards wrote: There was a Ragga Twins session circa 91/92 where mid track they say something on the lines of "This goes out to Mr John 'Orange Skin' Peel". Also currently listening to a '92 tape in the car, which features The Krispy 3 where they mention John Peel Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Marcelle van Hoof Sent: 02 June 2005 08:15 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. Thanks for you help!! love Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From robfleay@... Fri Jun 3 18:57:43 2005 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:57:43 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <42A09A17.13892.3D2FB2@localhost> This is true - I've actually seen the official HM Customs report on the incident. One of the funniest pieces of government documentation you'll ever see! If I can dig it out I'll scan it and put it on the web > Drumbo said that when Beefheart and The Magic Band turned up > for their first tour they were met by customs officials who > demanded to see some work permits. Their tour manager had > told them all to pretend to be hear as tourists but they > weren't believed so they got thrown out of the country on > the first available flight (to Frankfurt). Peel managed to > do some (unspecifed)stuff at this end that allowed them to > re-enter the country and do the tour. > > According to Drumbo, anyway.... > > > dougal mckinnon > senior applications developer > information services > Tel: 01782 294832 > E-mail: d.mckinnon@... > > The information in this email is confidential and is > intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by > anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, > copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be > taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery > to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly > notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment > from your computer. > From robfleay@... Fri Jun 3 19:01:50 2005 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:01:50 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <42A09A17.13892.3D2FB2@localhost> References: Message-ID: <42A09B0E.7996.40F69D@localhost> > This is true - I've actually seen the official HM Customs > report on the incident. One of the funniest pieces of > government documentation you'll ever see! If I can dig it > out I'll scan it and put it on the web Actually no need - it's here: http://www.beefheart.com/zigzag/articles/refuse.htm It was Hanover not Frankfurt apparently! From festive50@... Fri Jun 3 20:47:32 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:47:32 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <42A09B0E.7996.40F69D@localhost> Message-ID: Fascinating read. I wonder if the Mr. T. W. E. Roche mentioned in the report was any relation to our "Tom". If he was, I'm pretty certain he'd me mortified. "Later in the afternoon, H. M. Assistant Chief Inspector, Mr. T. W. E. Roche telephoned for details of the case, as the Press Officer had approached him for information." Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Robf Sent: 03 June 2005 18:02 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] Re: More Peel Clips > This is true - I've actually seen the official HM Customs > report on the incident. One of the funniest pieces of > government documentation you'll ever see! If I can dig it > out I'll scan it and put it on the web Actually no need - it's here: http://www.beefheart.com/zigzag/articles/refuse.htm It was Hanover not Frankfurt apparently! Yahoo! Groups Links From spinnerx15@... Sat Jun 4 17:34:40 2005 From: spinnerx15@... (spinnerx15) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:34:40 -0000 Subject: Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: <005201c56742$c67fe4a0$9600000a@lan> Message-ID: The B-side of the new Amsterdam single is dedicated "to the memory of the late great John Peel 1939-2204...without whom..." The A-side is "Does This Train Stop on Merseyside?" which Peel played as a demo and which he loved so much it brought him to tears. He remarked that the song "reminded him of the kind of songs Pete Wylie used to do." The B-side of the Amsterdam single is called "God Bless Pete Wylie." And is a lovely song as well. ---John --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Marcelle van Hoof wrote: > Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. > Thanks for you help!! > > love > Marcelle > www.anothernicemess.com From morriso@... Sat Jun 4 18:02:41 2005 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:02:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050604160241.46901.qmail@...> Actually, that dedication appears on all three formats of the single, and both sides of the 7 inch. Classic record, deserves to be known all over the globe. Great, insightful lyrics too. Andy spinnerx15 wrote: The B-side of the new Amsterdam single is dedicated "to the memory of the late great John Peel 1939-2204...without whom..." The A-side is "Does This Train Stop on Merseyside?" which Peel played as a demo and which he loved so much it brought him to tears. He remarked that the song "reminded him of the kind of songs Pete Wylie used to do." The B-side of the Amsterdam single is called "God Bless Pete Wylie." And is a lovely song as well. ---John --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Marcelle van Hoof wrote: > Dear all, a couple of months ago I asked for help in findingnew records/cd's having a dedication to John Peel on the sleeve. In the near future I want to do an Anothert Nice Mess special with only ''dedicated tro John peel'' music in it. Has anyone of you come across any new records/cd's with a dedication to John? (The latest one I found is the new Herman Dune album (Not On Top), which has the line 'We will miss John Peel' on the sleeve. > Thanks for you help!! > > love > Marcelle > www.anothernicemess.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk From mar.celle@... Sun Jun 5 15:12:14 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:12:14 +0200 Subject: Dedicated to John Peel Message-ID: <000b01c569d0$310dcff0$9700000a@PC154981710422> The B-side of the new Amsterdam single is dedicated "to the memory of the late great John Peel 1939-2204...without whom..." Oh, that would have been (too?) great: almost 3 centuries of John Peel!!! How many false endings would that mean? Thanks everyone for the tips concerning dedications to John Peel on records/cd's after his passing, if any of you come across any new ones, I'd love to hear them! And when I do my Dedicated to John Peel broadcast I will let you know!! Thanks! xx Marcelle www.anothernicemess.com From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sun Jun 5 15:36:48 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:36:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Dedicated to John Peel In-Reply-To: <000b01c569d0$310dcff0$9700000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: <20050605133648.28259.qmail@...> Looking forward to it!! Marcelle van Hoof wrote: And when I do my Dedicated to John Peel broadcast I will let you know!! Thanks! Best regards, Neil http://www.geocities.com/neil_jenkins.geo/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From garry_latham@... Sun Jun 5 20:11:15 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:11:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: An old fashioned question. Message-ID: <20050605181116.67629.qmail@...> Hey all Just like back in the day, when people would write in to John and ask about what was that reggae track that he played in 1978, and had the line... (well you get the idea!) ...I have a question. A few years ago John played a band made up of something like 3 basses and drums. Well I can't remember just how many basses in the band, but there was no guitars. Now this may the same band that recorded an album down a set of caves, or not! For sometime I had it my head that it was stoner band The Heads. Which is wrong. So I'm hoping someone could the name of this band. Thanks Garry. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From john.bravin@... Sun Jun 5 21:10:31 2005 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:10:31 +0200 Subject: [peel] An old fashioned question. In-Reply-To: <20050605181116.67629.qmail@...> References: <20050605181116.67629.qmail@...> Message-ID: <42A34E27.4060600@...> Well, there was a three bass guitar and drums band called Rothko who featured on the Peel show, but whether they are the one you are looking for it's hard to say. Try their website http://www.toopure.com/rothko/cat.html to see they stand out from all those other 3 bass guitar bands... John Garry Latham wrote: > Hey all > > Just like back in the day, when people would write in to John and ask > about what was that reggae track that he played in 1978, and had the > line... (well you get the idea!) ...I have a question. > > A few years ago John played a band made up of something like 3 basses > and drums. Well I can't remember just how many basses in the band, but > there was no guitars. Now this may the same band that recorded an > album down a set of caves, or not! > > For sometime I had it my head that it was stoner band The Heads. Which > is wrong. So I'm hoping someone could the name of this band. From garry_latham@... Sun Jun 5 21:37:15 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:37:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] An old fashioned question. In-Reply-To: <42A34E27.4060600@...> Message-ID: <20050605193715.56750.qmail@...> Now that could be them. He played them in 2000, which is about the right time. Cheers. John Bravin wrote:Well, there was a three bass guitar and drums band called Rothko who featured on the Peel show, but whether they are the one you are looking for it's hard to say. Try their website http://www.toopure.com/rothko/cat.html to see they stand out from all those other 3 bass guitar bands... John Garry Latham wrote: Hey all Just like back in the day, when people would write in to John and ask about what was that reggae track that he played in 1978, and had the line... (well you get the idea!) ...I have a question. A few years ago John played a band made up of something like 3 basses and drums. Well I can't remember just how many basses in the band, but there was no guitars. Now this may the same band that recorded an album down a set of caves, or not! For sometime I had it my head that it was stoner band The Heads. Which is wrong. So I'm hoping someone could the name of this band. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From mar.celle@... Mon Jun 6 13:34:00 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:34:00 +0200 Subject: Rothko Message-ID: <000001c56a8b$a57f9f10$9700000a@PC154981710422> Dear Garry, i have quite a lot of rothko albums, also from before they signed to Too Pure, s if youn need more info mail me directly. As a surpriding coincidence I had already put a Rothko-record aside to play tomorrow in Another Nice Mess (www.anothernicemess.com ) ; they also did a fabulous remix of Hefner's Alan Bean by the way. But maybe you're not referring to Rothko at all???? Marcelle From garry_latham@... Mon Jun 6 17:08:01 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:08:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Rothko In-Reply-To: <000001c56a8b$a57f9f10$9700000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: <20050606150801.48037.qmail@...> Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko this afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. They seem eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat area, but the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I haven't listened to enough of their stuff. Marcelle van Hoof wrote: Dear Garry, i have quite a lot of rothko albums, also from before they signed to Too Pure, s if youn need more info mail me directly. As a surpriding coincidence I had already put a Rothko-record aside to play tomorrow in Another Nice Mess (www.anothernicemess.com) ; they also did a fabulous remix of Hefner�s Alan Bean by the way. But maybe you�re not referring to Rothko at all???? Marcelle --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From stuart@... Tue Jun 7 16:44:11 2005 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:44:11 +0100 Subject: Rothko In-Reply-To: <1118142682.158.45412.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1118142682.158.45412.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: >Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko >this afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. >They seem eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat >area, but the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I >haven't listened to enough of their stuff. i've been trying to recall any bands with 3 basses to no avail. I wondered if one of Doug Scharin's bands might have had several basses. I don't think it was Him, however - there was another band who I have an album by, but I forget their name and it'd tae me ages to go from A-Z to find it. Southampton's Toupe have 2 basses, I think, but they're neither ambient or rocky (just silly). S (They're called Toupe and are from Southampton, in case that made no sense) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is this music? po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb scotland email: editor@... tel: ++44 (0)1506 840063 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From martinwheatley@... Tue Jun 7 16:56:56 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:56:56 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Rothko In-Reply-To: References: <1118142682.158.45412.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607155325.020ede58@...> At 15:44 07/06/2005, you wrote: > >>Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko >>this afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. >>They seem eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat >>area, but the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I >>haven't listened to enough of their stuff. >i've been trying to recall any bands with 3 basses to no avail. I >wondered if one of Doug Scharin's bands might have had several >basses. I don't think it was Him, however - there was another band >who I have an album by, but I forget their name and it'd tae me ages >to go from A-Z to find it. >Southampton's Toupe have 2 basses, I think, but they're neither >ambient or rocky (just silly). > >S >(They're called Toupe and are from Southampton, in case that made no sense) >-- > Rothco did a Peel session as well as a session for Mixing It in Radio 3 and then another for them recently with Roger Eno. They are one of those bands who get togewther every so often I know a band with two basses Iron Oxide who are the band of Fall listmeister Jeff Curtis normally have two and sometimes more. Last public performance was two basses and a theremin! http:www.iron-oxide.com/ A noise band rather than ambient! martinw From sdmaclean@... Tue Jun 7 19:19:30 2005 From: sdmaclean@... (sdmaclean@...) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:19:30 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Rothko Message-ID: <060720051719.25767.42A5D722000B4437000064A72205886014020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> Sorry for the non-Peel content, but hey, a Rothko thread.... I was in Rough Trade covent garden a few years back and a youngish kid saw me looking through a few records, Squirrel Bait, Bastro type stuff. Then he said to me "hey wanna be in my band?". Given that I didn't live in London, I politely declined. He gave me a tape of his band "Geiger Counter", all hand drawn and homemade, natch. For some reason I have got it into my head that GC became Rothko???? just a thought. Ah, some Peel content... not one to brag really but I do have a letter from Peel dated Aug 84, and written during his show, in response by my angst-ridden 16 year old kid diatribe on his potential sacking from Radio 1, including if I recall that "not everyone loves Kajagoogoo you know, we need Peel" (quite who WE was I cannot fathom, I didn't know anyone else who listened). I didn't quite know to whom I was even writing the letter, but I shall always treasure the response. What the hell, since I've started... during the Seattle earthquake of Feb 28 2001 (I live here now), I mailed Peel at show time about it and how weird it was (I'm from Brighton, not too many earthquakes there). And he didn't pay much attention. But then word started getting through to the main news dept at the Beeb, and of course Peelie then started asking me to mail him details, ha I was for one afternoon the Seattle news correspondent for the Peel show ;) OK, I'll shut up now... Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Martin Wheatley Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Rothko Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:56:57 +0000 Size: 2116 URL: From john.bravin@... Tue Jun 7 22:29:38 2005 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:29:38 +0200 Subject: [peel] Rothko In-Reply-To: <20050606150801.48037.qmail@...> References: <20050606150801.48037.qmail@...> Message-ID: <42A603B2.20006@...> Some more suggestions Doug P Sanchez from San Diego, an ensemble composed of three bass guitars, guitar, and drums with occasional guests playing violin or keyboards. Big Bottom (Susan Stenger's) band of five (or eight in some incarnations) electric bassists, drums and occasional vocal extemporisations promoted by Nick Cave (among others) John P.S. Don't try to Google "Susan's Big Bottom", I've worked my way through all 65000 hits (no pun intended) and only 200 of them relate to music and and only one of these to John Peel. Garry Latham wrote: > Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko this > afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. They seem > eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat area, but > the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I haven't > listened to enough of their stuff. > */ > /* > From colmgallagher@... Wed Jun 8 12:23:02 2005 From: colmgallagher@... (Cilm Gallagher) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:23:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Updating my address book Message-ID: <3502976.1118226182911.JavaMail.Administrator@win01> Hello I would like to include your contact information in an address book I am creating for myself. Please enter your particulars using the link you see below: http://www.bebo.com/fr1/17020027a586878823b242419448c499084545d18 This is a really easy tool that will help you exchange and keep your contact's information up-to-date . When you update your information the changes automatically appear in your friends' address books. Many Thanks, Colm From mar.celle@... Wed Jun 8 13:24:08 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:24:08 +0200 Subject: one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... Message-ID: <000201c56c1c$99239fe0$9700000a@PC154981710422> Hi there, I for one think this talk about the basses bands is not off topic as it is about good, exciting music and that is what Peel stood for..He would have been proud of us... So to continue the more than one bass-discussion: my favourite two bassband is Delta 5 whose Mind Your own Business is one my alltime faves (and of course we all heard it first on Peelie). What about more than one drummer? I can think of only one band now, and that 6-cd box set should be obligatory purchase for every household I think. Love Marcelle From rockerq@... Wed Jun 8 20:36:54 2005 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:36:54 EDT Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... Message-ID: > What about more than one drummer? I can think of only one band now, and > that 6-cd box set should be obligatory purchase for every household I think. > The Wedding Present had two drummers for a little while in the early nineties. Didn't the Glitterband have two? Rocker PS plenty of examples if you include percussionists! From alan@... Wed Jun 8 20:57:26 2005 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:57:26 +0100 Subject: [peel] Updating my address book References: <3502976.1118226182911.JavaMail.Administrator@win01> Message-ID: <002301c56c5b$ec2b1f80$6ef186d9@pb1996> > I would like to include your contact information in an address book I am creating for myself. Please enter your particulars using the link you see below: Who, li'l ole me? I smell a big rat Colm - or is that Cilm? I'll respectfully decline. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Cilm Gallagher To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: [peel] Updating my address book > Hello > > I would like to include your contact information in an address book I am creating for myself. Please enter your particulars using the link you see below: > > http://www.bebo.com/fr1/17020027a586878823b242419448c499084545d18 > > This is a really easy tool that will help you exchange and keep your contact's information up-to-date . When you update your information the changes automatically appear in your friends' address books. > > Many Thanks, > > Colm > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > From ajcauk@... Wed Jun 8 21:09:08 2005 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:09:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050608190908.8225.qmail@...> the glitterband definitely did apart from the Fall who only had 2 drummers for a short time 83- 87 i think not sure there was of course the grateful dead as specified in the jeffrey lewis track but didnt ginger baker have somebody in his army hawkwind tried it at some point and anyway (as u say)countless ensembles have had percussion sections additional to the drummer or doesnt that count as for bassists cant think of any but i can think why with more than one bass u get confused as to who is playing what and then u play 'bum' note to check that you're in the mix which soon results in getting chucked out of the band i'd be interested in doing some mutiple bass experimental stuff if anybody wants to go that far even if just to bang on about bass gtrsts b4 i do list stop alanjc --- rockerq@... wrote: > > What about more than one drummer? I can think of > only one band now, and > > that 6-cd box set should be obligatory purchase > for every household I think. > > > > The Wedding Present had two drummers for a little > while in the early > nineties. > > Didn't the Glitterband have two? > > Rocker > > PS plenty of examples if you include percussionists! > ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From robfleay@... Wed Jun 8 21:28:31 2005 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:28:31 +0100 Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... In-Reply-To: <20050608190908.8225.qmail@...> References: Message-ID: <42A754EF.6506.A7CF79@localhost> 2 bassist in Ned's Atomic Dustbin 2 drummers in Adam & The Ants More recently 2 drummers in The Go! Team > the glitterband definitely did > apart from the Fall > who only had 2 drummers for a short time > 83- 87 i think not sure > there was of course the grateful dead > as specified in the jeffrey lewis track > but didnt ginger baker have somebody in his army > hawkwind tried it at some point > and anyway (as u say)countless ensembles have had > percussion sections additional to the drummer or > doesnt that count > as for bassists > cant think of any but i can think why > with more than one bass u get confused as to who is > playing what > and then u play 'bum' note to check that you're in the > mix which soon results in getting chucked out of the > band > i'd be interested in doing some mutiple bass > experimental stuff if anybody wants to go that far > even if just to bang on about bass gtrsts > b4 i do list stop > alanjc > > --- rockerq@... wrote: > > > > What about more than one drummer? I can think of > > only one band now, and > > > that 6-cd box set should be obligatory purchase > > for every household I think. > > > > > > > The Wedding Present had two drummers for a little > > while in the early > > nineties. > > > > Didn't the Glitterband have two? > > > > Rocker > > > > PS plenty of examples if you include percussionists! > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday > snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> What would our lives be like > without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in > the arts today at Network for Good! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/JPJolB/TM > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------~-> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From markbursa@... Wed Jun 8 21:38:58 2005 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:38:58 EDT Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... Message-ID: <53.29369f55.2fd8a352@...> >>apart from the Fall > who only had 2 drummers for a short time > 83- 87 i think not sure<< Earlier than that - mid-81 onwards; then variously for the next decade depending on whether Karl Burns was in the band or not. They were truly fantastic with two drummers - two great memories are opening at Fagins in Manchester with Fiery Jack; the other was an encore of The Classical and Fantastic Life at the Hammersmith Palais the next year. Another 2-drummer band was the mid-80s version of Pere Ubu, when most of the original band rejoined and effectively "merged" with David Thomas' solo band. Mark From rockerq@... Thu Jun 9 00:24:05 2005 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:24:05 EDT Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... Message-ID: > 2 bassist in Ned's Atomic Dustbin > > Funny their name should comeup - I was unfeasibly pleased today when I received a rare soul LP in the post (off eBay) and found that the seller had used a Neds 12" as a stiffener to avoid damage in the post -I've always thought that was about all their records were good for - and though I was tempted to keep the thing to use in the same manner next time I need to send someone a 12", I just couldn't resist the temptation to bend the thing in two. Maybe this comes from the way they nicked the Mega City 4 roadcrew in the late 80s, or maybe their records actually are that bad! (2 Bassists, no tunes). btw Pere Ubu with 2 drummers - now there's a band I'd like to have seen! Funny, you never hear Glitterband records played these days. Rocker From markbursa@... Thu Jun 9 01:18:46 2005 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:18:46 EDT Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... Message-ID: <154.52ce5373.2fd8d6d6@...> >>btw Pere Ubu with 2 drummers - now there's a band I'd like to have seen!<< It was quite something - and as the band included Tony Maimone, Scott Krauss and Allen Ravenstein you got a lot of Modern Dance-era stuff. >>Funny, you never hear Glitterband records played these days.<< Twisted pop genius Luke Haines (of the Auteurs) did a song about that very subject last time I saw him, the chorus went something like: Goodbye my love is a hell of a record they did it by themselves the leader was not present Gary Glitter is a bad bad man Sullying the reputation of the Glitter Band Which is a fair point.... Mark From paul@... Thu Jun 9 09:58:28 2005 From: paul@... (Paul Webster) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:58:28 +0100 Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <018a01c56cc9$06711df0$0201a8c0@...> From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of rockerq@... Sent: 08 June 2005 19:37 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... >What about more than one drummer? I can think of only one band now, and that 6-cd box set should be obligatory purchase for every household I think. I'm sure that there were loads before - but the first I remembered on Peel were Adam and the Ants - which reminds me ...Bow Wow Wow. Somewhere I have a recording from Peel of "C30, C60, C90, Go" on a C120 gently wasting away. Paul From colmgallagher@... Thu Jun 9 10:55:10 2005 From: colmgallagher@... (Colm Gallagher) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:55:10 +0100 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1015 In-Reply-To: <1118229075.212.5314.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Sorry guys I have sent this group an errant email regarding updating my address book (not for the first time!) I am really sorry! I shall endeavour for this not to happen again! ************************************************** AMICI DANCE THEATRE COMPANY CELEBRATES 25 YEARS IN COLLABORATION WITH IMPROBABLE THEATRE THE STARS ARE OUT TONIGHT LYRIC THEATRE HAMMERSMITH 10, 11 AND 13 JUNE MIYAGI DANCE PRESENT ASTERISK AT LYRIC THEATRE HAMMERSMITH 17 JUNE CONTACT www.lyric.co.uk or 08700 500511 to book tickets www.amicidance.org for much further information *********************************************** From dr_mango2004@... Thu Jun 9 13:12:10 2005 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:12:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... In-Reply-To: <53.29369f55.2fd8a352@...> Message-ID: <20050609111210.27364.qmail@...> Doncaster's Beachbuggy (led by Darren Belk, once of the Wedding Present) had two drummers for quite a while. I saw them live in about 1998 and they were great. Both drummers played exactly the same. Mango --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From stuart@... Thu Jun 9 13:22:46 2005 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:22:46 +0100 Subject: one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... In-Reply-To: <1118315570.250.64775.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1118315570.250.64775.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Manitoba (formerly Caribou) are currently doing the rounds with 2 drummers - well, more that mainman Dan would join in on a second kit when he wasn't beating, twiddling or generally messing with other bits of kit. Speaking of multiple basses, I'm not sure if this 'project' is still happening... http://www.44strings.co.uk S -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is this music? po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb scotland email: editor@... tel: ++44 (0)1506 840063 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jstepek@... Thu Jun 9 13:45:06 2005 From: jstepek@... (Jimmy Stepek) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:06 +0100 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1016 Message-ID: <8FF307C704FA2C4AAB8A3B526CE302C494CB4E@...> > From: Dr Mango >Subject: Re: one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... > > >Doncaster's Beachbuggy (led by Darren Belk, once of the >Wedding Present) had two drummers for quite a while. I saw >them live in about 1998 and they were great. Both drummers >played exactly the same. The Pink Fairies had a two drummer set up in the early seventies and used them to great effect, imho :-) You don't hear them to much on the radio either! Cheers...Jimmy From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 9 19:56:35 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:56:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Rothko In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050609175635.47975.qmail@...> Hmmm, can't be Toupe cos I just googled them & John and they never came up in his playlists. Stuart McHugh wrote:>Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko >this afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. >They seem eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat >area, but the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I >haven't listened to enough of their stuff. i've been trying to recall any bands with 3 basses to no avail. I wondered if one of Doug Scharin's bands might have had several basses. I don't think it was Him, however - there was another band who I have an album by, but I forget their name and it'd tae me ages to go from A-Z to find it. Southampton's Toupe have 2 basses, I think, but they're neither ambient or rocky (just silly). S (They're called Toupe and are from Southampton, in case that made no sense) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is this music? po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb scotland email: editor@... tel: ++44 (0)1506 840063 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 9 20:04:52 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:04:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Rothko In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607155325.020ede58@...> Message-ID: <20050609180452.34937.qmail@...> Now this is pretty good evidence that it's after all. I remember something on Mixing It with band, and I was listening to MI every week back then. Now I must stipulate that I have the worst memory. For a 34 year old I would make a good 95 year old. This Iron Oxide sound very interest. Martin Wheatley wrote: Rothco did a Peel session as well as a session for Mixing It in Radio 3 and then another for them recently with Roger Eno. They are one of those bands who get togewther every so often I know a band with two basses Iron Oxide who are the band of Fall listmeister Jeff Curtis normally have two and sometimes more. Last public performance was two basses and a theremin! http:www.iron-oxide.com/ A noise band rather than ambient! martinw --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 9 20:07:45 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:07:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Rothko In-Reply-To: <060720051719.25767.42A5D722000B4437000064A72205886014020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> Message-ID: <20050609180745.69473.qmail@...> I think Stuart could have started a thread here with who's been on the show in one form or another. Cool stories sdmaclean@... wrote: Ah, some Peel content... not one to brag really but I do have a letter from Peel dated Aug 84, and written during his show, in response by my angst-ridden 16 year old kid diatribe on his potential sacking from Radio 1, including if I recall that "not everyone loves Kajagoogoo you know, we need Peel" (quite who WE was I cannot fathom, I didn't know anyone else who listened). I didn't quite know to whom I was even writing the letter, but I shall always treasure the response. What the hell, since I've started... during the Seattle earthquake of Feb 28 2001 (I live here now), I mailed Peel at show time about it and how weird it was (I'm from Brighton, not too many earthquakes there). And he didn't pay much attention. But then word started getting through to the main news dept at the Beeb, and of course Peelie then started asking me to mail him details, ha I was for one afternoon the Seattle news correspondent for the Peel show ;) OK, I'll shut up now... Stuart --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From: Martin Wheatley To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Re: Rothko Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:56:57 +0000 At 15:44 07/06/2005, you wrote: > >>Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko >>this afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. >>They seem eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat >>area, but the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I >>haven't listened to enough of their stuff. >i've been trying to recall any bands with 3 basses to no avail. I >wondered if one of Doug Scharin's bands might have had several >basses. I don't think it was Him, however - there was another band >who I have an album by, but I forget their name and it'd tae me ages >to go from A-Z to find it. >Southampton's Toupe have 2 basses, I think, but they're neither >ambient or rocky (just silly). > >S >(They're called Toupe and are from Southampton, in case that made no sense) >-- > Rothco did a Peel session as well as a session for Mixing It in Radio 3 and then another for them recently with Roger Eno. They are one of those bands who get togewther every so often I know a band with two basses Iron Oxide who are the band of Fall listmeister Jeff Curtis normally have two and sometimes more. Last public performance was two basses and a theremin! http:www.iron-oxide.com/ A noise band rather than ambient! martinw --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 9 20:17:48 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:17:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Rothko In-Reply-To: <42A603B2.20006@...> Message-ID: <20050609181748.52504.qmail@...> Unfortuately neither came through on the google test. Although I tried your google and the second hit looks interesting. Big Bottom has to be a Spinal Tap reference. John Bravin wrote: Some more suggestions Doug P Sanchez from San Diego, an ensemble composed of three bass guitars, guitar, and drums with occasional guests playing violin or keyboards. Big Bottom (Susan Stenger's) band of five (or eight in some incarnations) electric bassists, drums and occasional vocal extemporisations promoted by Nick Cave (among others) John P.S. Don't try to Google "Susan's Big Bottom", I've worked my way through all 65000 hits (no pun intended) and only 200 of them relate to music and and only one of these to John Peel. Garry Latham wrote: > Thanks Marcelle. As it happens I've been listening to some Rothko this > afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the band I'm looking for. They seem > eclectic, although within the ambient to acoustic downbeat area, but > the band I 'seem' to remember are more rocky. Or perhaps I haven't > listened to enough of their stuff. > */ > /* > --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 9 20:41:00 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:41:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] one bass, two bas, three bass, four bass..... In-Reply-To: <000201c56c1c$99239fe0$9700000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: <20050609184100.19159.qmail@...> While doing the google test for Delta 5 I managed to come across you profle website Marcelle. Nice site. And I completely agree, discussion about bass band is somthing he would have been bound to approve off. Just like buyng records 'cos of the cover design. The only 2 drummer band I can think of is Adam & the Ants. Although didn't the Beatles have 3 drummers: John, Paul and George Marcelle van Hoof wrote: Hi there, I for one think this talk about the basses bands is not off topic as it is about good, exciting music and that is what Peel stood for�.He would have been proud of us�.. So to continue the more than one bass-discussion: my favourite two bassband is Delta 5 whose Mind Your own Business is one my alltime faves (and of course we all heard it first on Peelie). What about more than one drummer? I can think of only one band now, and that 6-cd box set should be obligatory purchase for every household I think. Love Marcelle --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From brian@... Thu Jun 9 23:27:05 2005 From: brian@... (electrophotic) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:27:05 -0000 Subject: Peel tapes Message-ID: It may be of interest to members of this group that I am disposing of all my reel-to-reel tapes (and tape deck). Many of the tapes are of John Peel Shows, mostly Festive 50's - some complete shows, and some just the F50 part of the show. All JP's narrative is included - I recorded these off-air at the time they were first broadcast. I've listed them on eBay tonight (search for "John Peel" to find all the tapes with JP content). Over the last few months I've copied most of the tapes' content onto CD (spent about 250 hours copying and manually indexing the tracks) and, along with other F50s I have recorded on VHS, the JP stuff fills about 90 CDs. I hope to be able to make the CDs content available to anyone who wants copies but at the moment I'm basically analogue (plus a Philips audio CD recorder) and further copying using my present set-up would be time consuming and expensive, so I need to learn how to do MP3s. The reason for me selling up is that the CDs take up less space and are more convenient. The tapes are excellent quality (just a couple of them have a few minor glitches as mentioned on the auction page), and, unlike my CD transfers which I had to edit slightly to fit onto 74/80 minute CDs, the full shows are one continuous take. From rockerq@... Fri Jun 10 00:12:25 2005 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:12:25 EDT Subject: [peel] Peel tapes Message-ID: <15a.526fe47b.2fda18c9@...> I have the capability to transfer reel tapes to CD-r. If anyone else has hoarded old Peel shows on Reel I'd be interested in buying or borrowing them! I could easily do CD copies as part of the deal - and presumably people on this list would have the technology to convert these into MP3s for the various download sites! Funnily enough I'm more interested in random "normal" shows than the Festive 50s - It's those obscure tracks that he maybe only played once that I like hearing! Cheers! Rocker From hangthedj@... Fri Jun 10 11:54:08 2005 From: hangthedj@... (simecaz) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:54:08 -0000 Subject: Scritti Politti session Message-ID: Hi All I am new here, glad to find this forum exists. Start right in with an early 80s quiz: I have three Scritti Politti tracks from a 'Songs To Remember' era Peel session, from a Peel show C90. Does anyone know what date this session would have been broadcast? Asylums In Jerusalem A Slow Soul Jacques Derrida These are taken from a repeat broadcast of the session and played alongside a new session from Amazulu. cheers From martinwheatley@... Fri Jun 10 12:58:29 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:58:29 +0100 Subject: [peel] Scritti Politti session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050610115536.01ff4600@...> At 10:54 10/06/2005, you wrote: > >Hi All >I am new here, glad to find this forum exists. > >Start right in with an early 80s quiz: I have three Scritti Politti >tracks from a 'Songs To Remember' era Peel session, from a >Peel show C90. Does anyone know what date this session >would have been broadcast? > >Asylums In Jerusalem >A Slow Soul >Jacques Derrida > >These are taken from a repeat broadcast of the session and >played alongside a new session from Amazulu. >cheers > That Peel session was originally broadcast 24-5-82 Amazulu's first Peel session went out on 7-7-82 so that was probably the date of your tape martinw From hangthedj@... Fri Jun 10 14:41:47 2005 From: hangthedj@... (hangthedj) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:41:47 +0100 Subject: [peel] Scritti Politti session In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050610115536.01ff4600@...> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050610115536.01ff4600@...> Message-ID: thanks Martin >That Peel session was originally broadcast 24-5-82 >Amazulu's first Peel session went out on 7-7-82 so that was probably the >date of your tape -- From john.bravin@... Sat Jun 11 17:28:27 2005 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:28:27 +0200 Subject: Zeitgeist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42AB031B.4010805@...> Finally got round to listening to the Dec 10th 1976 Peel Punk show hosted by The John Peel Tape Project (http://johnpeeltapes.blogspot.com -currently temporarily down). One beautiful moment when he plays Anarchy In the UK, and introduces it by saying "People don't seem to be playing the single very much, which is a pity because it's a good stomper". What irony, now 30 years on you can buy it on a compilation from every garage forecourt. For those of you who haven't listened to the show it really captures the mood of Punk at the very start without Peel being sure where this music was going. Saw U2 last night (how very un-Peel). Almost the biggest reaction of the night was when they played The Killers single during the warm-up! The Thrills and Snow Patrol were OK but a little 'wet' for a warm-up band. Much rather have seen the Kaizer Chiefs/Killers line-up scheduled for the Amsterdam show. John From troche@... Sat Jun 11 23:01:16 2005 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:01:16 -0400 Subject: A different kind of Ravenscroft In-Reply-To: <1118488956.4490.83684.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1118488956.4490.83684.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Voice of Tony the Tiger dies Thurl Ravenscroft dead at 91 FULLERTON, California (AP) -- Thurl Ravenscroft, who provided the rumbling "They're Grrrrreeeat!" for Kellogg's Tony the Tiger ads and voiced a host of Disney characters, has died. He was 91. Ravenscroft died Sunday of prostate cancer, said Diane Challis Davy, director of Laguna Beach's Pageant of the Masters. For more than 50 years, Ravenscroft was the affable voice behind Tony the Tiger, TV's popular cartoon pitchman for Kellogg's Frosted Flakes. "I'm the only man in the world that has made a career with one word: Grrrrreeeat!" Ravenscroft told the Orange County Register in 1996. "When Kellogg's brought up the idea of the tiger, they sent me a caricature of Tony to see if I could create something for them. After messing around for some time I came up with the `Grrrrreeeat!' roar, and that's how it's been since then." Born in Norfolk, Nebraska, Ravenscroft moved to California in 1933 to study art. By the mid-1930s he was appearing regularly on radio, and by the late-1930s he was singing backup for Bing Crosby. After military service during World War II, he returned to Hollywood, where he sang with the Mellomen, a group that performed with Frank Sinatra, Danny Kaye, Rosemary Clooney and Elvis Presley. In 1952, Ravenscroft's voice appeared in the first Frosted Flakes commercial. Ravenscroft is survived by two children and four grandchildren. June, his wife of 53 years, died in 1999 at age 80. Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistribute From festive50@... Sun Jun 12 00:39:48 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:39:48 +0100 Subject: A different kind of Tom Roche In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A different kind of RavenscroftJust listening to an old Peel show (dated 25.04.2001) and 20 mins in, JP reads out an e-mail from Mike F from Dallas Texas asking if the Tom Roche in Atlanta that he mentions, the same Tom Roche who had a radio programme on WOWD in Tallahassee. To this JP answered that he didn't think so, but he'd ask him when he came over in the summer. Well Tom, was it you? Phil From thebarguest@... Sun Jun 12 15:39:55 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:39:55 -0000 Subject: John Walters stood in for Peel ? Message-ID: I've got a tape with Peel's long-term partner / producer John Walters introducing sessions by Be Bop Deluxe and Can (both from 1975 ). Any idea when / what show this was ? Was Walters standing in for Peel or did he have his own show ? A clue could be that at the end of the tape there is a Bill Nelson session intro'd by Peel himself from June 1981. The middle of the tape has a few Thin Lizzy songs which presumably are also Peel recording. From festive50@... Sun Jun 12 16:11:11 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:11:11 +0100 Subject: [peel] John Walters stood in for Peel ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Be-Bop Deluxe - 17.03.1975 Main in Heaven Stage whispers Sister seagull Lights Can - 19.05.1975 Geheim Mighty Girl Bill Nelson - 15.06.1981 Rooms with brittle views Stay young Sleep cycle Jazz Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of thebarguest Sent: 12 June 2005 14:40 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] John Walters stood in for Peel ? I've got a tape with Peel's long-term partner / producer John Walters introducing sessions by Be Bop Deluxe and Can (both from 1975 ). Any idea when / what show this was ? Was Walters standing in for Peel or did he have his own show ? A clue could be that at the end of the tape there is a Bill Nelson session intro'd by Peel himself from June 1981. The middle of the tape has a few Thin Lizzy songs which presumably are also Peel recording. Yahoo! Groups Links From rockerq@... Sun Jun 12 16:23:47 2005 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:23:47 EDT Subject: [peel] John Walters stood in for Peel ? Message-ID: <20f.2db4b7a.2fdd9f73@...> < John Walters introducing sessions by Be Bop Deluxe and > Can (both from 1975 )>> > Now there's a show that deserves distribution by .MP3! ;-) Cheers! Rocker From fitfee68@... Sun Jun 12 22:29:13 2005 From: fitfee68@... (fitfee68) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:29:13 -0000 Subject: Nice piece about Peel, Walters, and Beefheart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Tom Roche wrote: > http://www.trakmarx.com/2005_01/05_needs.htm I'm catching up on previous posts and I really enjoyed reading this. Out of sheer curiosity, can anyone tell me which Beefheart track was chosen for the Peeling Back The Years series that John made with Walters? Best wishes, Chris Stephens From moomin@... Sun Jun 12 22:41:02 2005 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:41:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Nice piece about Peel, Walters, and Beefheart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , fitfee68 writes >I'm catching up on previous posts and I really enjoyed reading this. >Out of sheer curiosity, can anyone tell me which Beefheart track was >chosen for the Peeling Back The Years series that John made with >Walters? I remember 'Yellow Brick Road' and 'Pachuco Cadaver' but I *think* there was one more. -- simon smith From dunelm@... Sun Jun 12 22:48:31 2005 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:48:31 -0000 Subject: Peeling Back The Years Message-ID: Here is the text of an email I have just sent to the BBC. If any of you would like to back me up, and add a bit of weight to my suggestions, please feel free to do so! The address I have used is playsitagain.6music@.... Thanks. Hello. I'm writing with a suggestion for the Plays It Again slot which I hope you will consider. In 1987, Radio One broadcast a series of six shows called Peeling Back The Years, in which John Peel discussed his life, career in broadcasting and music generally with his friend and colleague John Walters. I assume that the recordings still exist in the BBC archives, because clips derived from the series were used in various tributes broadcast by the BBC last year. I appreciate that Plays It Again usually features a particular musician or band, rather than a DJ. However, John Peel was no ordinary DJ, and any trawl through the various web sites will show how much he is missed, and how much interest in him is out there. And Peeling Back The Years was a particularly fascinating series, covering as it did some forty years of popular music. As a further suggestion, John Peel's autobiography Jesus Wasn't Made of Fish is published later in the year, and a rebroadcast of Peeling Back The Years would tie in nicely. I hope my suggestions merit serious consideration - many of us would love to hear this series again. From jon.horne@... Sun Jun 12 22:53:07 2005 From: jon.horne@... (Jon Horne) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:53:07 -0000 Subject: Peel tapes In-Reply-To: <15a.526fe47b.2fda18c9@...> Message-ID: Hi Rocker, Speaking as the human face of one of the various download sites (The Peel Tapes), I'd be really grateful for any file sharing you can do, as I'm rapidly running out of old tapes to put up. And I agree with you about the random thing. If you have to buy the tapes, I'll be happy to contribute towards the cost. And to anyone else reading, The Peel Tapes is up and running again, so please share with me and I'll share with the listening world (said he, pretentiously). Cheers, Jon http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@a... wrote: > I have the capability to transfer reel tapes to CD-r. > > If anyone else has hoarded old Peel shows on Reel I'd be interested in buying > or borrowing them! I could easily do CD copies as part of the deal - and > presumably people on this list would have the technology to convert these into > MP3s for the various download sites! > > Funnily enough I'm more interested in random "normal" shows than the Festive > 50s - It's those obscure tracks that he maybe only played once that I like > hearing! > > Cheers! > > Rocker From festive50@... Sun Jun 12 23:44:45 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:44:45 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jon I'm at start of digitising my 500 + Peel tapes to put on my server. I can start uploading to your site if you wish. I originally planned to do the FF's 1st but have decided to do them chronologically with earliest 1st. I've just done a load from 1987. I've got them in 128 kbps and 48 kbps. Which do you prefer. Send details how to upload. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jon Horne Sent: 12 June 2005 21:53 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Re: Peel tapes Hi Rocker, Speaking as the human face of one of the various download sites (The Peel Tapes), I'd be really grateful for any file sharing you can do, as I'm rapidly running out of old tapes to put up. And I agree with you about the random thing. If you have to buy the tapes, I'll be happy to contribute towards the cost. And to anyone else reading, The Peel Tapes is up and running again, so please share with me and I'll share with the listening world (said he, pretentiously). Cheers, Jon http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@a... wrote: > I have the capability to transfer reel tapes to CD-r. > > If anyone else has hoarded old Peel shows on Reel I'd be interested in buying > or borrowing them! I could easily do CD copies as part of the deal - and > presumably people on this list would have the technology to convert these into > MP3s for the various download sites! > > Funnily enough I'm more interested in random "normal" shows than the Festive > 50s - It's those obscure tracks that he maybe only played once that I like > hearing! > > Cheers! > > Rocker Yahoo! Groups Links From newswire@... Mon Jun 13 00:30:50 2005 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:30:50 +0100 Subject: [peel] Peel tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42ACB79A.7070109@...> You could get Cdex (because it contains the only free version of Lame MP3 encoder that I know of) then get MP3Directcut and put the lame dll into the MP3DC main directory. MP3DC records straight into MP3 format and using the lame library you can record and whatever rates you want - mono stereo variable etc. If you have more money than time then buy Total Recorder - an off the shelf solution that does the same plus a lot more. Well except MP3DC does edit and cut up MP3s and TR doesn't but it is easier to set up. I notice all these programs are about three versions ahead of the last ones I downloaded, so they probably all do everything by now :) Relevant urls: http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/downloads.php http://www.mpesch3.de/ http://www.highcriteria.com/ electrophotic wrote: > It may be of interest to members of this group that I am disposing of > all my reel-to-reel tapes (and tape deck). Many of the tapes are of > John Peel Shows, mostly Festive 50's - some complete shows, and some > just the F50 part of the show. All JP's narrative is included - I > recorded these off-air at the time they were first broadcast. I've > listed them on eBay tonight (search for "John Peel" to find all the > tapes with JP content). > > Over the last few months I've copied most of the tapes' content onto > CD (spent about 250 hours copying and manually indexing the tracks) > and, along with other F50s I have recorded on VHS, the JP stuff fills > about 90 CDs. I hope to be able to make the CDs content available to > anyone who wants copies but at the moment I'm basically analogue > (plus a Philips audio CD recorder) and further copying using my > present set-up would be time consuming and expensive, so I need to > learn how to do MP3s. From jon.horne@... Mon Jun 13 02:12:42 2005 From: jon.horne@... (Jon Horne) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:12:42 -0000 Subject: Uploading Peel tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, I forgot the uploading information: To send a file to The Peel Tapes: Go to yousendit.com Put my address jon.horne@... as "recipient's e-mail address" Click on "choose file", and choose the file Click the blue "send" button or... Go to rapidshare.de Click on "choose file", and choose the file Click on "ins Internet stellen" Wait a bit Put my address jon.horne@... as "Deine e-mail address" Click "Zuschicken" ...and that's magic Cheers, Jon From troche@... Mon Jun 13 02:12:14 2005 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:12:14 -0400 Subject: A different kind of Tom Roche In-Reply-To: <1118573194.883.43185.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1118573194.883.43185.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: At 10:46 AM +0000 6/12/05, peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: >A different kind of Ravenscroft Just listening to an old Peel show (dated >25.04.2001) and 20 mins in, JP reads out an e-mail from Mike F from Dallas >Texas asking if the Tom Roche in Atlanta that he mentions, the same Tom >Roche who had a radio programme on WOWD in Tallahassee. To this JP answered >that he didn't think so, but he'd ask him when he came over in the summer. >Well Tom, was it you? Geez guys there is no hiding from you is there? First you blow my cover from when I was a UK border customs agent. Yes, all those years of claiming I grew up in Tampa Florida, claiming to have bought a white label promo of Trout Mast Replica nobody wanted for $4 when I was 16, now worth a fortune, lies, all lies. Well the fortune part isn't a lie, but obviously I am now actually 86 years old and look back on stopping Don Van Vliet at the border as my proudest achievement in life. The WOWD-FM thing, that was a station known as D-103, that is all part of my phony back-story I made up to hide my customs agent affiliation. I made up this story about growing restless in Tampa, and moving 250 miles to north Florida to go to Florida State University, where my mom had gone in 1943. Er, um, she didn't really go, I made that up. They said that the University Of Florida in Gainesville was the party school, go there, I said well I dunno. The said that FSU, being a former all women's college, had 4 stunning women for every guy, go there. I said well I dunno. Then they said FSU had a 50,000 watt campus radio station, covered much of north Florida, and I said sold, see ya there. Well they had no room when I got there (in this part of this big lie story) so they supposedly set me across town to the black collage, FAMU, and they had a 100 watt station WAMF and I went on there, was the only white guy on the air there. Then later I got on the big station, WFSU, so I was on two stations. Then a guy at WOWD heard me and said you sound good, so he hired me to actually do radio on weekends for money. I even devised this huge phony web site of the guy who supposedly hired me, all lies. http://www.performancevistasinc.com/Pelt.html This big lie gets more complicated with the afternoon I supposedly was on the WFSU station and I played "Working Class Hero" and um sorta forgot to silence a few words and got kicked off. And the black jazz/reggae/soul station was tying up too much of my school time, or was it my sex life, probably the latter (my God I seem to recall I thought it was gonna fall off) so I supposedly quit that too. The WOWD station was pure commercial "rrrrrock" as Peel would say, and of course I knew better and kept breaking format for this new Pretenders record and this new Costello guy- there is only so much Ted Nugent and Marshall Tucker Band one can take - and they would soon shit-can me. Such a tired old DJ story, so easy to make it all up. There was actually a Mike F at the WFSU station who lives in Atlanta now somewhere, but he was kinda square then but I might have to take the time to re-evaluate my opinion of him. After all, at The Her Majesty's Customs Agent's Retirement Home here in Weston-super-Mare overlooking the donkey rides I have plenty of time on my hands before I croak, which won't be too long from now. tr From thebarguest@... Mon Jun 13 12:37:55 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:37:55 -0000 Subject: Peel tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No offence to anyone, but ... If the original recordings are good quality, it would be great if that quality could be maintained when made available to Peel fans eg at least 128 kbps,48 kbps, stereo. sw --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > > Hi Jon > I'm at start of digitising my 500 + Peel tapes to put on my server. > I can start uploading to your site if you wish. > I originally planned to do the FF's 1st but have decided to do them > chronologically with earliest 1st. > I've just done a load from 1987. > I've got them in 128 kbps and 48 kbps. > Which do you prefer. > Send details how to upload. > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jon > Horne > Sent: 12 June 2005 21:53 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Re: Peel tapes > > > Hi Rocker, > > Speaking as the human face of one of the various download sites (The Peel > Tapes), I'd > be really grateful for any file sharing you can do, as I'm rapidly running > out of old > tapes to put up. And I agree with you about the random thing. > > If you have to buy the tapes, I'll be happy to contribute towards the cost. > > And to anyone else reading, The Peel Tapes is up and running again, so > please share > with me and I'll share with the listening world (said he, pretentiously). > > Cheers, Jon > > http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@a... wrote: > > I have the capability to transfer reel tapes to CD-r. > > > > If anyone else has hoarded old Peel shows on Reel I'd be interested in > buying > > or borrowing them! I could easily do CD copies as part of the deal - and > > presumably people on this list would have the technology to convert these > into > > MP3s for the various download sites! > > > > Funnily enough I'm more interested in random "normal" shows than the > Festive > > 50s - It's those obscure tracks that he maybe only played once that I like > > hearing! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Rocker > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links From thebarguest@... Mon Jun 13 15:09:17 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:09:17 -0000 Subject: Early Human League Peel Sesh ? Message-ID: Did it happen ? The first Human League album (1979) is still amazing - much better than the later commercial stuff. From stuart@... Mon Jun 13 15:35:04 2005 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:35:04 +0100 Subject: Cuban Boys tribute In-Reply-To: <1118660342.225.2583.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1118660342.225.2583.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: In case anyone's not heard 'The Nation Needs You' - http://www.cubanboys.co.uk/ S -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is this music? po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb scotland email: editor@... tel: ++44 (0)1506 840063 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From martinwheatley@... Mon Jun 13 17:30:09 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:30:09 +0100 Subject: [peel] Early Human League Peel Sesh ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050613162751.020e2c78@...> At 14:09 13/06/2005, the barguest wrote: > >Did it happen ? >The first Human League album (1979) >is still amazing - much better than >the later commercial stuff. > > 16-8-78 Being Boiled No Time You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling Blind Youth Like so many Peel sessions it somehow captures the essence of the band! martinw From moomin@... Mon Jun 13 18:11:02 2005 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:11:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Nice piece about Peel, Walters, and Beefheart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , simon smith writes >In message , fitfee68 >writes >>I'm catching up on previous posts and I really enjoyed reading this. >>Out of sheer curiosity, can anyone tell me which Beefheart track was >>chosen for the Peeling Back The Years series that John made with >>Walters? > >I remember 'Yellow Brick Road' and 'Pachuco Cadaver' but I *think* >there was one more. I remember now - it was 'Diddy Wah Diddy'. No other group got more than one! -- simon smith From festive50@... Mon Jun 13 23:40:22 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:40:22 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: A different kind of Tom Roche and ........... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Coincidentally on this same show which asked the question to "life, the universe and everthing", well the question in the e-mail regarding the ubiquitous T.Roche. Anyway in this same show, there was another e-mail from the almost equally ubiquitous Andrew Morrison (of Peel disclaimer fame) who'd just returned from an "Anxious Tour" gig at the Pyramid, Portsmouth. Incidentally these e-mails weren't necessarily recent, as JP had just announced the "golden e-mail" concept, which were e-mails he'd been carrying around for ages. Also in this show, the great man reads out an e-mail concerning molybdenum, which I know from listening to 1000's of shows, he had a great fascination for, and longed to possess a piece. Tom, did Peely ask you about your stint at WOWD and what is the answer in a monosyllabic form, as I am still not 100% certain? Phil From dr_mango2004@... Mon Jun 13 23:55:42 2005 From: dr_mango2004@... (Dr Mango) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:55:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050530221128.60087.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050613215542.72786.qmail@...> Since posting this email, I've found two more Peel clips that I've added to the folder. The direct links are: http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/wedding_present_dec_95.mp3 http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/trompe_le_monde.mp3 Mango Dr Mango wrote: Evening all. I've spent the last couple of weeks going through my collection of John Peel session tapes... [snip] Files can be found here: http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/ Regards, Dr Mango --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From morriso@... Tue Jun 14 10:52:36 2005 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:52:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: A different kind of Tom Roche and ........... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050614085236.9903.qmail@...> Don't recall going to an "Anxious Tour"..? Did I say which bands had been playing? Andy Phil Edwards wrote: Coincidentally on this same show which asked the question to "life, the universe and everthing", well the question in the e-mail regarding the ubiquitous T.Roche. Anyway in this same show, there was another e-mail from the almost equally ubiquitous Andrew Morrison (of Peel disclaimer fame) who'd just returned from an "Anxious Tour" gig at the Pyramid, Portsmouth. Incidentally these e-mails weren't necessarily recent, as JP had just announced the "golden e-mail" concept, which were e-mails he'd been carrying around for ages. Also in this show, the great man reads out an e-mail concerning molybdenum, which I know from listening to 1000's of shows, he had a great fascination for, and longed to possess a piece. Tom, did Peely ask you about your stint at WOWD and what is the answer in a monosyllabic form, as I am still not 100% certain? Phil --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk From eddie.duffy@... Tue Jun 14 11:49:57 2005 From: eddie.duffy@... (Ed Duffy) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:49:57 -0000 Subject: More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050613215542.72786.qmail@...> Message-ID: Thanks again, Dr. M! Incidentally, I was just listening to the show where Karl and Rick sat in for Peelie. Nice namecheck for you on there! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Dr Mango wrote: > Since posting this email, I've found two more Peel clips that I've added to the folder. The direct links are: > > http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/wedding_present_dec_95.mp3 > http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/trompe_le_monde.mp3 > > Mango From brian@... Tue Jun 14 17:56:12 2005 From: brian@... (electrophotic) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:56:12 -0000 Subject: In Session Tonight Message-ID: Looking for a copy of 'In Session Tonight' and found this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/- /0563364521/all/026-1690444-8570060 Is that the current market value of these?!! From thebarguest@... Tue Jun 14 18:33:24 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:33:24 -0000 Subject: John Walters stood in for Peel ? In-Reply-To: <20f.2db4b7a.2fdd9f73@...> Message-ID: Of course ! Watch those spaces ..... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, rockerq@a... wrote: > < > John Walters introducing sessions by Be Bop Deluxe and > > Can (both from 1975 )>> > > > Now there's a show that deserves distribution by .MP3! ;-) > > Cheers! > > Rocker From martinwheatley@... Tue Jun 14 18:59:23 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:59:23 +0100 Subject: [peel] In Session Tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614175844.02061588@...> At 16:56 14/06/2005, you wrote: > >Looking for a copy of 'In Session Tonight' and found this: >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/- >/0563364521/all/026-1690444-8570060 > >Is that the current market value of these?!! > > I think they've been going around £50 on E-Bay martinw From festive50@... Tue Jun 14 20:19:39 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] In Session Tonight In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 220 quid?????? I better keep my signed copy under lock and key. Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of electrophotic Sent: 14 June 2005 16:56 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] In Session Tonight Looking for a copy of 'In Session Tonight' and found this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/- /0563364521/all/026-1690444-8570060 Is that the current market value of these?!! Yahoo! Groups Links From garry_latham@... Tue Jun 14 22:01:07 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:01:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] More Peel Clips In-Reply-To: <20050613215542.72786.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050614200107.16890.qmail@...> Thanks. Dr Mango wrote:Since posting this email, I've found two more Peel clips that I've added to the folder. The direct links are: http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/wedding_present_dec_95.mp3 http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/trompe_le_monde.mp3 Mango Dr Mango wrote: Evening all. I've spent the last couple of weeks going through my collection of John Peel session tapes... [snip] Files can be found here: http://www.farmersboys.cwc.net/peel/ Regards, Dr Mango --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From fitfee68@... Wed Jun 15 20:34:30 2005 From: fitfee68@... (fitfee68) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:34:30 -0000 Subject: Nice piece about Peel, Walters, and Beefheart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Simon. I thought there was only one track, but you're right. My memory is obviously a lot worse than I thought! > >I remember 'Yellow Brick Road' and 'Pachuco Cadaver' but I *think* > >there was one more. > > I remember now - it was 'Diddy Wah Diddy'. No other group got more than > one! > > -- > simon smith From fitfee68@... Wed Jun 15 20:46:55 2005 From: fitfee68@... (fitfee68) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:46:55 -0000 Subject: Radio One punk celebration Message-ID: Should anyone be interested, Radio One are currently 'celebrating' 30 years of punk...alas, with a Green Day tinge to it! There's some Peel session stories on their mini-site and one programme will feature interview clips from John Peel...(and also Eric Cantona and Quentin Tarantino???). My apologies if this has already been mentioned by someone else. Best wishes, Chris Stephens From martinwheatley@... Wed Jun 15 20:57:30 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:57:30 +0100 Subject: 82 FF Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615195601.02138ec0@...> If anyone needs it and has the appropriate access the 1982 Festive Fifty is in the newsgroup alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie They are 128k MP3s martinw From janb@... Wed Jun 15 21:18:30 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42B07F06.6050208@...> fitfee68 wrote: > Should anyone be interested, Radio One are currently 'celebrating' > 30 years of punk...alas, with a Green Day tinge to it! Hey! Nothing wrong with Green Day - American Idiot is a great record, and International Superhits is worth shelf-space as well. The problem is with the bands that they inspired/opened the door for. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From festive50@... Wed Jun 15 23:42:14 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:42:14 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hmmm Unclear how this site operates. Thought I'd uploaded this file to Jon's Peel Tape Site But I've just been sent this link for downloading. http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2AF3W5VUJA3F72W95RWGCY2T82 Need to be quick as it's only there for 7 days. Phil P.S. It's a show from 09.06.1987 - It's only 48kbps as the 128 kbps timed out. Maybe Jon can explain how this site works. Phil From bingoandsnork@... Thu Jun 16 13:08:25 2005 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:08:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: <42B07F06.6050208@...> Message-ID: <20050616110825.77053.qmail@...> Indeed, nothing wrong with Basket Case, but Most Punk Record? More Punk than The Clash or The Buzzcocks? Beating the Sex Pistols to a pulp? What would Lydon say? Jan Buxton wrote:fitfee68 wrote: > Should anyone be interested, Radio One are currently 'celebrating' > 30 years of punk...alas, with a Green Day tinge to it! Hey! Nothing wrong with Green Day - American Idiot is a great record, and International Superhits is worth shelf-space as well. The problem is with the bands that they inspired/opened the door for. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 16 15:51:40 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:51:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: <42B07F06.6050208@...> Message-ID: <20050616135140.35976.qmail@...> John played plenty of Green Day back in the early 90's! I agree with what you say about the "door opening", Jan. I come across a number of bands who are teenage "pop-punk" and they all sound the same, and speak glowingly of Green Day. Interestingly, when I come across a "punk" band who are genuinely interesting/original they say they're not keen on Green Day! Shame really. The problem isn't Green Day though ... it's teenagers who have a very narrow range of musical tastes and, as such, have a CD collection of essentially the same music, and in their band they try to recreate that same sound. There's a band that I do some photography for who are a "pop-punk" band, but as I've got them listening to other stuff very slowly over time (and as they've got older) they're finally starting to sound like themselves and not what's already out there. Mind you, you can say the same of many other genres. Sorry ... is it just me or have I gone completely off-piest?! Jan Buxton wrote: fitfee68 wrote: > Should anyone be interested, Radio One are currently 'celebrating' > 30 years of punk...alas, with a Green Day tinge to it! Hey! Nothing wrong with Green Day - American Idiot is a great record, and International Superhits is worth shelf-space as well. The problem is with the bands that they inspired/opened the door for. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 16 16:00:50 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:00:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: <20050616110825.77053.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050616140050.93251.qmail@...> It's all meaningless, isn't it! Even in '77 no one could quite agree on what Punk meant. Some kids in my class wouldn't listen to The Jam because they "weren't punk", some people complained to John Peel in '76 that The Damned "weren't punk", and so on. And now, nearly 30 years on, I find myself telling teenagers that they don't know what Punk means. The truth is ... no one ever did! Punk means to you what it means to you. It's taken me 20-odd years to realise that! LOL dean coster wrote: Indeed, nothing wrong with Basket Case, but Most Punk Record? More Punk than The Clash or The Buzzcocks? Beating the Sex Pistols to a pulp? What would Lydon say? Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From fitfee68@... Thu Jun 16 18:02:35 2005 From: fitfee68@... (fitfee68) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:02:35 -0000 Subject: Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: <20050616140050.93251.qmail@...> Message-ID: > Punk means to you what it means to you. > > It's taken me 20-odd years to realise that! LOL ...and of course, as somebody famously once told us (who was that!), there's either good music or there's bad music. I don't like labelling music but I was expecting more of a tribute to early punk music...silly me! Just never got into Green Day I'm afraid. All the best, Chris Stephens From moomin@... Thu Jun 16 19:48:30 2005 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:48:30 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: References: <20050616140050.93251.qmail@...> Message-ID: In message , fitfee68 writes >...and of course, as somebody famously once told us (who was that!), >there's either good music or there's bad music. I don't like labelling >music Well yes, but what Green Day is, is Power Pop. There's no mistaking it. I find discussions about how to label Japanese noise like Merzbow quite fun, because the question is raised whether it's music at all, and if it isn't, is that necessarily a bad thing? Maybe the age of music is ending. I don't think JP ever played Merzbow, but apparently Masonna featured in a live broadcast he did, and they're about the most extreme music I've ever heard. I wonder what he made of them? -- simon smith From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 16 21:49:10 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:49:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050616194910.500.qmail@...> I remember that live Masonna set. It was 10 mins of just noise. No rhythm, no variation, just the same monotonous noise, and I like noisey music. I don't remember him playing any Merzbow, but he did introduce the 24 hour playing of the complete Merzbow back catalogue at the ICA. While not they're all that punk(y) at times I feel Green Day our punk at heart, and our certainly viewed as punk by the mainstream. I mean only a punk band could get away with calling fellow americans idiots. The Dixie Chicks couldn't. But then again I subscribe to idea that isn't simply the drummer, singer, bass, and a guitar playing 3 chords formula. It's partly of an attitude, the DIY ethics etc, not simply the sound of the music. Public Enemy are punk, Busted weren't. simon smith wrote: In message , fitfee68 writes >...and of course, as somebody famously once told us (who was that!), >there's either good music or there's bad music. I don't like labelling >music Well yes, but what Green Day is, is Power Pop. There's no mistaking it. I find discussions about how to label Japanese noise like Merzbow quite fun, because the question is raised whether it's music at all, and if it isn't, is that necessarily a bad thing? Maybe the age of music is ending. I don't think JP ever played Merzbow, but apparently Masonna featured in a live broadcast he did, and they're about the most extreme music I've ever heard. I wonder what he made of them? -- simon smith --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From garry_latham@... Thu Jun 16 22:27:23 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:27:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Cuban Boys tribute In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050616202724.12361.qmail@...> Cool link. I like their longer version, although not my usual style. What even more interesting is the link to their tribute site, which begs the question who's gonna be uploading their picture to it? Stuart McHugh wrote:In case anyone's not heard 'The Nation Needs You' - http://www.cubanboys.co.uk/ S -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is this music? po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb scotland email: editor@... tel: ++44 (0)1506 840063 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From neil_jenkins.geo@... Fri Jun 17 11:29:47 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:29:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: <20050616194910.500.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050617092947.22388.qmail@...> It's so nive to be able to speak of Busted in the past tense!! :-D Garry Latham wrote: Public Enemy are punk, Busted weren't. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From hackney.man@... Fri Jun 17 12:33:15 2005 From: hackney.man@... (Hackneyman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:33:15 +0100 Subject: suggestions References: <1118920073.3229.85205.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <002101c57327$f93e84f0$b5d41a52@andrew> Am doing a band website. They were well supported by Peely and wondered if anyone might suggest the best page to link to for him. At the moment I am using the radio one page but not entirely happy with it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/ Any suggestions appreciated just a one page link that is informative for people. best HM From janb@... Fri Jun 17 20:01:02 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:01:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] suggestions In-Reply-To: <002101c57327$f93e84f0$b5d41a52@andrew> References: <1118920073.3229.85205.m17@yahoogroups.com> <002101c57327$f93e84f0$b5d41a52@andrew> Message-ID: <42B30FDE.6010101@...> Hackneyman wrote: > Am doing a band website. They were well supported by Peely and wondered if > anyone might suggest the best page to link to for him. > At the moment I am using the radio one page but not entirely happy with it. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/ > > Any suggestions appreciated just a one page link that is informative for > people. How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel? -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From lists@... Fri Jun 17 20:35:44 2005 From: lists@... (Rob Brewer) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:35:44 +0100 Subject: [peel] suggestions In-Reply-To: <42B30FDE.6010101@...> References: <1118920073.3229.85205.m17@yahoogroups.com> <002101c57327$f93e84f0$b5d41a52@andrew> <42B30FDE.6010101@...> Message-ID: On 6/17/05, Jan Buxton wrote: > How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel? > Seconded (even if I did help write it). -- Rob Brewer rob@... rbrwr.org@... http://www.rbrwr.org "I could have been like Lou Barlow, but I'm more like Ken Barlow" From garry_latham@... Fri Jun 17 21:47:10 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:47:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Radio One punk celebration In-Reply-To: <20050617092947.22388.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050617194710.46775.qmail@...> That's what I was thinking as I wrote it Neil Jenkins wrote:It's so nive to be able to speak of Busted in the past tense!! :-D Garry Latham wrote: Public Enemy are punk, Busted weren't. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From willowct@... Fri Jun 17 23:45:11 2005 From: willowct@... (Willow Colios-Terry) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:45:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: most punk song... In-Reply-To: <1119007476.244.45299.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20050617214511.60048.qmail@...> most punk song... its gotta be richard hell and the voidoids surely!!! Blank Generation or something off that LP. its all bloody brilliant. also the most punk aspect is that it was all over as soon as it had begun. no reunion tours. no greatest hits lp's. Small bit about it in this months uncut which also has an excellent Van Morrison interview. Zero bullshit with that guy. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From festive50@... Sat Jun 18 02:30:57 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:30:57 +0100 Subject: Yipee In-Reply-To: <20050617194710.46775.qmail@...> Message-ID: The Festive Fifty by Mark Whitby has finally arrived. I've only had a quick look as it's going t be one of my birthday presents in August. >From what I've seen of it, it is an ideal complement to Ken Garner's "In Session Tonight". On the surface, it is written by a true Peel "Nut". His opening line in the introduction. "When I reached the age of around 14, I realised that the best thing about Christmas was, after all, a slightly portly bloke with a beard.. More precisely, it was a chart compiled from votes sent in by listeners of that blokes show - an institution known as the Festive Fifty." The last 10 of these 217 pages is dedicated to all the characters featured in FF tracks. Much better than those phoney biographies. Can't wait for my birthday. Phil P.S. Yes Marcelle, your copy also arrived. From thebarguest@... Sun Jun 19 23:58:14 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:58:14 -0000 Subject: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe Message-ID: Much to my chagrin, I missed the first part of this show last December (a repeat, I don't know how many times it was broadcast). I did manage to tape the last 2 hrs 12 mins, which was / is one of the best rock broadcasts ever ! The full show was 4 hours I think. What I saw was back-to-back videos by : futureheads - 1980 revisited, great elastica blur roxy music can - oh yeah - live with a juggler on stage - mind-blowing joy division - love will - their worst song smiths pj harvey nirvana white stripes clinic autochre aphex twin the orb - clouds klf - a highlight - a car in the desert, with sheep ! bloc party ikara colt - great alter ego kaito - excellent datsuns melt banana - weird Japanese, great song & vid the fall - hit the north - fave vid of all time (joint !) sonic youth new order birthday party public enemy capt beefheart - a highlight of course undertones - kicks vines Lets hope mtv2 repeat this on the (sad) anniversary of John's death - maybe if they got some email requests ............ From janb@... Mon Jun 20 00:31:44 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:31:44 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42B5F250.5050001@...> thebarguest wrote: > joy division - love will - their worst song Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike music snobs/peel listeners. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From rigmahus@... Mon Jun 20 00:48:36 2005 From: rigmahus@... (rigmahus) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:48:36 -0000 Subject: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <42B5F250.5050001@...> Message-ID: Steady on! That's a bit harsh! > Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike > music snobs/peel listeners. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Jan Buxton wrote: > thebarguest wrote: > > joy division - love will - their worst song > > Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike > music snobs/peel listeners. > > -- > Jan > http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From rigmahus@... Mon Jun 20 03:09:28 2005 From: rigmahus@... (rigmahus) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:09:28 -0000 Subject: Peel shows from 1970 - 1975 Message-ID: Hi, Didn't want you to get too excited by the title. I'm on the want. Amoungst the download sites... JP Tapes, TK3K, Pefumed Garden and JP tape and files...and on the net in general...there is almost a total lack of preserved shows from this period. Personally I'd love to hear his transformation from slow talking, laid back, post Perfumed Garden hip meister - to his discovering of punk - (at what hour did that happen? and on what show did he excitedly anonuce the arrival of the mad slab of vinyl he got - only this morning) and subsequent deadpan sardonic delivery that lasted right up till last year. :( What does everyone else think? Stevo From martinwheatley@... Mon Jun 20 09:08:42 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:42 +0100 Subject: Peel Shows Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050620080609.01fef7f0@...> I thin anyone interested in old Peel shoes should take a listen to what Andy Kershaw had to say about it on his Radio 3 show last night (should be on the BBC Player by now). There was an excerpt from a Peel/Kershaw handover followed by some relevant comments from Andy that you might want to join in with. It's about 50 mins - 1 hour into the show martinw From d.mckinnon@... Mon Jun 20 09:14:34 2005 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:14:34 +0100 Subject: [peel] most punk song... Message-ID: > Small bit about it in this months uncut which also > has an excellent Van Morrison interview. Zero > bullshit with that guy. Didn't Morrison refuse to appear at the Lonnie Donegan "Peel Sessions Live" gig in London a few years back because Half Man, Half Biscuit were supporting? I recall Peel saying on air that they'd tried to get Morrison to appear as he had recently collaborated with Donegan, but the pompous hat-wearing oaf laid a "It's them or me" ultimatim which the organisers thankfully ignored. dougal mckinnon senior applications developer information services Tel: 01782 294832 E-mail: d.mckinnon@... -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Willow Colios-Terry Sent: 17 June 2005 22:45 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] most punk song... most punk song... its gotta be richard hell and the voidoids surely!!! Blank Generation or something off that LP. its all bloody brilliant. also the most punk aspect is that it was all over as soon as it had begun. no reunion tours. no greatest hits lp's. Small bit about it in this months uncut which also has an excellent Van Morrison interview. Zero bullshit with that guy. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From thebarguest@... Mon Jun 20 11:15:26 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:15:26 -0000 Subject: we miss john peel - Holiday in Cambodia In-Reply-To: <42B5F250.5050001@...> Message-ID: Yeah, Pol Pot would have killed any Peel listener for being "elitist" ....... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Jan Buxton wrote: > thebarguest wrote: > > joy division - love will - their worst song > > Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike > music snobs/peel listeners. > > -- > Jan > http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From mar.celle@... Mon Jun 20 16:48:04 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:48:04 +0200 Subject: BonzoGig_mm3-29-69 Message-ID: <000901c575a7$107ddf40$9600000a@lan> dear all, found this on the internet: http://www.neilinnes.org/BonzoGig_mm3-29-69.gif -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From colinbray@... Mon Jun 20 15:20:42 2005 From: colinbray@... (colin bray) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:20:42 +0000 Subject: [peel] most punk song... In-Reply-To: <20050617214511.60048.qmail@...> Message-ID: Nah, it's got to be "Straight Edge" by Minor Threat. Changed my life forever and you can't say more than that. >From: Willow Colios-Terry >Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [peel] most punk song... >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:45:11 +0100 (BST) > >most punk song... > >its gotta be richard hell and the voidoids surely!!! > >Blank Generation or something off that LP. > >its all bloody brilliant. > >also the most punk aspect is that it was all over as >soon as it had begun. no reunion tours. no greatest >hits lp's. > >Small bit about it in this months uncut which also has >an excellent Van Morrison interview. Zero bullshit >with that guy. > > > >___________________________________________________________ >How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday >snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From garry_latham@... Mon Jun 20 22:17:36 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] most punk song... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050620201736.92308.qmail@...> Good tune, but my vote would for The Dead Kennedy's 'Holiday In Cambodia'. colin bray wrote:Nah, it's got to be "Straight Edge" by Minor Threat. Changed my life forever and you can't say more than that. >From: Willow Colios-Terry >Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [peel] most punk song... >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:45:11 +0100 (BST) > >most punk song... > >its gotta be richard hell and the voidoids surely!!! > >Blank Generation or something off that LP. > >its all bloody brilliant. > >also the most punk aspect is that it was all over as >soon as it had begun. no reunion tours. no greatest >hits lp's. > >Small bit about it in this months uncut which also has >an excellent Van Morrison interview. Zero bullshit >with that guy. > > > >___________________________________________________________ >How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday >snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From neil_jenkins.geo@... Tue Jun 21 09:55:57 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:55:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <42B5F250.5050001@...> Message-ID: <20050621075557.76193.qmail@...> Do people dislike Peel Listerners? I'd never thought of that as possibility before. When someone says of a band or artist something like "their worst song" I, by default, assume they actually mean "personally my least favourite of their songs", and I did the same with thebarguest's comment. Musical taste is, of course, entirely subjective, and us Peel Listeners should be as aware of that as anyone. thebarguest ... perhaps you could rephrase in future? In return for which we will be a little more understanding of people's expression of opinion! ;-) Incidently, "Love Will ..." is also my least favourite Joy Division number! :-) Jan Buxton wrote: thebarguest wrote: > joy division - love will - their worst song Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike music snobs/peel listeners. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From neil_jenkins.geo@... Tue Jun 21 10:07:50 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:07:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Peel shows from 1970 - 1975 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050621080750.62169.qmail@...> I think his "change" was a gradual thing. I listened to him from 1977 and never really considered that his delivery had changed until a few years back when I'd heard a snippet of something he'd done in the mid-late 70's and realised he sounded different! There's a copy of a "Punk Special" he recorded in December 1976 doing the rounds. If you listen to that he still has his laid back, hippy-like delivery, although he does noticably "toughen up" during the course of that one programme. So maybe there was a delivery change in response to the sort of music he was playing, which initially occurred during each programme and became more long-term some time later (i.e. when he'd START each programme in his latter-day style). rigmahus wrote: Hi, Didn't want you to get too excited by the title. I'm on the want. Amoungst the download sites... JP Tapes, TK3K, Pefumed Garden and JP tape and files...and on the net in general...there is almost a total lack of preserved shows from this period. Personally I'd love to hear his transformation from slow talking, laid back, post Perfumed Garden hip meister - to his discovering of punk - (at what hour did that happen? and on what show did he excitedly anonuce the arrival of the mad slab of vinyl he got - only this morning) and subsequent deadpan sardonic delivery that lasted right up till last year. :( What does everyone else think? Stevo Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Tue Jun 21 10:27:46 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:27:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] most punk song... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050621082746.50839.qmail@...> Shit! That's one I don't recall!! Any ideas where I could get my hands on it to listen to it? colin bray wrote: Nah, it's got to be "Straight Edge" by Minor Threat. Changed my life forever and you can't say more than that. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Tue Jun 21 10:39:12 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:39:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] BonzoGig_mm3-29-69 In-Reply-To: <000901c575a7$107ddf40$9600000a@lan> Message-ID: <20050621083912.97223.qmail@...> Thanks for this, Marcelle! :-) 25 shillings, eh?! And a mere 12 shillings and sixpence to see Bonzo Dog. Mind you, I was only 6 when Britain "went decimal" so am not in a position to comment on the prices in "old money"! Marcelle van Hoof wrote: dear all, found this on the internet: http://www.neilinnes.org/BonzoGig_mm3-29-69.gif Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From ajcauk@... Tue Jun 21 12:20:38 2005 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:20:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] most punk song... In-Reply-To: <20050621082746.50839.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050621102039.4451.qmail@...> i just downloaded a whole load of minor threat via limewire 'straight edge' included i cant say i heard of them before but the style is instantly familiar and smile inducing and just to be irritating i think it is more thrash than anything my view of punk is that it is catharsis in action and i knew what meant before punk came along so-called punk i think was termed new wave at the time i was fortunate to have it all creep up around me before i knew it what it was i cant remember my peel listening habits in the 70's would love to see a list of jp times of broadcast over the years i think somewhere i decided i wouldn't bother with second hand opinion and since there was too much (still is) music to get hold of anyway i'll rely on serendipidity to show me the way i like to think i have broad tastes maybe genrewise but in truth i am very particular and i cant believe some of the stuff that passes for music in the mainstream hence the gravitation toward peelobilia alanjc --- Neil Jenkins wrote: > Shit! That's one I don't recall!! Any ideas where > I could get my hands on it to listen to it? > > > colin bray wrote: > Nah, it's got to be "Straight Edge" by Minor Threat. > > Changed my life forever and you can't say more than > that. > > Best regards, > Neil > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your > holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get > Yahoo! Photos ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jon.horne@... Tue Jun 21 17:35:43 2005 From: jon.horne@... (Jon Horne) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:35:43 -0000 Subject: New old Peel tape Message-ID: Hi folks, just to let you know I've posted another tape onto The Peel Tapes. It's from mid-1980. Don't know the exact date, but he mentions that Joy Division's Closer is "selling in almost embarrassing quantities". There's a session by the Glass Torpedoes (a Liverpool group, punky Bunnymen sort of thing), and a repeat of a 1977 one by the Stranglers. Cheers, Jon http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html From martinwheatley@... Tue Jun 21 18:19:02 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:19:02 +0100 Subject: [peel] New old Peel tape In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621171759.01fdafb0@...> At 16:35 21/06/2005, you wrote: > >Hi folks, just to let you know I've posted another tape onto The Peel Tapes. >It's from >mid-1980. Don't know the exact date, but he mentions that Joy Division's >Closer is >"selling in almost embarrassing quantities". There's a session by the Glass >Torpedoes >(a Liverpool group, punky Bunnymen sort of thing), and a repeat of a 1977 >one by the >Stranglers. > >Cheers, Jon > >http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html > Glass Torpedoes was 24-1-80 martinw From colinbray@... Tue Jun 21 19:19:51 2005 From: colinbray@... (colin bray) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:19:51 +0000 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050621075557.76193.qmail@...> Message-ID: I have always felt that dedicated Peel listeners were invariably 'sound' as people. I think they are/were the nicest people out there. Some people may dislike Peel devotees in the same way they disliked Peel - mistaking eclecticism for snobbery. Colin. >From: Neil Jenkins >Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:55:57 +0100 (BST) > >Do people dislike Peel Listerners? I'd never thought of that as >possibility before. > >When someone says of a band or artist something like "their worst song" I, >by default, assume they actually mean "personally my least favourite of >their songs", and I did the same with thebarguest's comment. Musical taste >is, of course, entirely subjective, and us Peel Listeners should be as >aware of that as anyone. > >thebarguest ... perhaps you could rephrase in future? In return for which >we will be a little more understanding of people's expression of opinion! >;-) > >Incidently, "Love Will ..." is also my least favourite Joy Division number! > :-) > > >Jan Buxton wrote: >thebarguest wrote: > > joy division - love will - their worst song > >Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike >music snobs/peel listeners. > >-- >Jan >http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ > >Best regards, >Neil >www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with >voicemail From janb@... Tue Jun 21 19:47:12 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:47:12 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42B852A0.1060004@...> colin bray wrote: > I have always felt that dedicated Peel listeners were invariably 'sound' as > people. > > I think they are/were the nicest people out there. I quite agree... > Some people may dislike Peel devotees in the same way they disliked Peel - > mistaking eclecticism for snobbery. ...what I was getting at was not that or a tendency for eclecticism, in fact the opposite - a lot of 'Peel devotees' can have rather closed minds. Its not any more eclectic to say "it's popular, it's rubbish", than it is to say "it's obscure, it's rubbish". Very few Peel devotees actually practice eclecticism in my experience. And nice and sound as they are, its annoying when they something like "Love Will... is JDs worst record", when even if you don't see it as the classic that it is, it clearly can't be the worst thing they ever did. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From thebarguest@... Tue Jun 21 21:18:23 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:18:23 -0000 Subject: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050621075557.76193.qmail@...> Message-ID: Yes, quite right Neil. "Least favourite" is better than "worst" because the latter implies that I don't like it. On the contrary, I think its a good song. It's just that the overall quality of JD's catalogue is more than good ie excellent. Of course, this is only my opinion and not stated as a "fact". Plus, "Love Will ..." never got into a Festive 50 I don't think ..... Now I'm here ..... Did JP choose his songs or was it his producer, or a joint effort ? tara ps ever heard any pre-JD stuff (ie Warsaw) - it's really hard and punky ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Neil Jenkins wrote: > Do people dislike Peel Listerners? I'd never thought of that as possibility before. > > When someone says of a band or artist something like "their worst song" I, by default, assume they actually mean "personally my least favourite of their songs", and I did the same with thebarguest's comment. Musical taste is, of course, entirely subjective, and us Peel Listeners should be as aware of that as anyone. > > thebarguest ... perhaps you could rephrase in future? In return for which we will be a little more understanding of people's expression of opinion! ;-) > > Incidently, "Love Will ..." is also my least favourite Joy Division number! :-) > > > Jan Buxton wrote: > thebarguest wrote: > > joy division - love will - their worst song > > Its this sort of plainly ridiculous statement that makes people dislike > music snobs/peel listeners. > > -- > Jan > http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ > > Best regards, > Neil > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From festive50@... Tue Jun 21 21:38:03 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:38:03 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <42B852A0.1060004@...> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jan Buxton Sent: 21 June 2005 18:47 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe > Very few Peel devotees > actually practice eclecticism in my experience. Unlike Zane Lowe's devotees - Teee Heeee. > And nice and sound as > they are, its annoying when they something like "Love Will... is JDs > worst record", when even if you don't see it as the classic that it is, > it clearly can't be the worst thing they ever did. I think it is probably my least favourite (well probably not in my Top 10). As it probably is the most played on the radio, where some of these playlist orientated stations (even XFM), will play "Love Will..." as their token JD track. Phil -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ Yahoo! Groups Links From janb@... Tue Jun 21 22:41:16 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:41:16 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42B87B6C.1070703@...> thebarguest wrote: > Plus, "Love Will ..." never got into a Festive 50 I > don't think ..... According to http://www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm 1980 - No 3 1981 - No 3 All Time F50 1982 - No 3 All Time F50 2000 - No 3 -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From janb@... Tue Jun 21 22:53:39 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:53:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42B87E53.4040107@...> Phil Edwards wrote: >>Very few Peel devotees >>actually practice eclecticism in my experience. > > > Unlike Zane Lowe's devotees - Teee Heeee. That rather proves my point. You immediately assume Zane Lowe devotees to be inferior to the elevated Peel club... -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From festive50@... Wed Jun 22 01:13:15 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:13:15 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <42B87E53.4040107@...> Message-ID: Sorry, I couldn't resist. Somehow, I knew you'd "bite". I'ts just that I remember you of old and your reaction to a post of mine, when we were wondering about new schedules after John's sad demise and Zane Lowe joining the Beeb and my comments regarding his shows on XFM. I must admit that Zane played tracks that crossed over with John's shows, namely "white boys strumming guitars". I believe that most people didn't like everything that Peely played and for me this genre was the one for me (of course not ALL "white boys strumming guitars", but the likes of Datsuns, Strokes, White Stripes - NOW), as I can get that on XFM (and only that) and one tires of the same repetitive playlists day after day. The point I was trying to get across re. Zane Lowe and eclecticism (and of course, his devotees) is that he plays such a limited choice of genres (unless of course, he's changed his style) similar to Ras Kwame. Even Huw and Rob are playing a more varied range of genres. Maybe the devotees of Zane Lowe felt that Peely didn't play ENOUGH of "white boys strumming guitars". Maybe it's just me, but I feel, I've gone full circle, ie. singles in the early '60's, then mainly albums in late '60's and early '70's but now I prefer the sheer variety that singles offer and after all it's not many albums these days that can hold my interest apart from a few selected artists. I think the last time we "crossed swords", I believe I may have cast doubts on your "raison d'�tre" for being a member of this group and I am still somewhat intrigued as I, myself would not bother to join a "fan" group dedicated to someone I thought of as simply "OK". I just would not waste my time. Sorry again, but it's just the impression you give and being a member of 1 or 2 group sites, I've come across a few people who tend to make ONLY negative posts and I dearly hope that you are not in this category as, WHY BOTHER? Just a thought and as I say, "I am intrigued". Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jan Buxton Sent: 21 June 2005 21:54 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe Phil Edwards wrote: >>Very few Peel devotees >>actually practice eclecticism in my experience. > > > Unlike Zane Lowe's devotees - Teee Heeee. That rather proves my point. You immediately assume Zane Lowe devotees to be inferior to the elevated Peel club... -- Jan From festive50@... Wed Jun 22 01:49:41 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:49:41 +0100 Subject: [peel] BonzoGig_mm3-29-69 In-Reply-To: <20050621083912.97223.qmail@...> Message-ID: Well here's some more gigs in "old money" Saw Led Zep at time Led Zep I for 6/- at "The Farx" in Southall. This was in the next town to where I grew up (incidentally, after I heard that Live Misty and Roots track with the incredible intro on Marcelles's show, I did a search for Misty and Roots and discovered they were also from Southall). I've also dug out som old "gig" tickets (how sad am I)? Just found � a ticket for an All Nighter at the Lyceum for Friday 13th Feb 10.30 pm - 6.00 am (probably 1969) Bands:- T.Rex, Edgar Broughton Band (a poor man's Beefheart), Scene (don't remember them), Gunhill, Taste and Fairport Convention with D.J. David Symonds All for a measly 25/- Keef Hartley's Big Band, East of Eden and Mott The Hoople - Tuesday 14th April (69/70) at Watford Town Hall - Price = 12/6. I seem to recall this was the same night of a budget where Purcahase Tax was replaced by V.A.T. Festival of Blues & ?????? Music (only got � the ticket) 27th - 28th June 1970 Price 50/- (Mind you we only paid 20/- [�1] as some of the security were reselling used tickets). >From memory. Maynard Ferguson Donovan Led Zeppelin Pink Floyd (debut performance of Atom Heart Mother) Mothers of Invention Canned Heat Steppenwolf Jefferson Airplane Hot Tuna Flock Dr. John The Byrds Country Joe & the Fish John Mayall I'm pretty certain there were some more English bands, but for the life of me, I cannot remember them. As a minor claim to fame, I went with Malcolm Owen (latterly of the Ruts), whose father drove us to this festival. Also, when we got there, we met up with 2 girls he knew who shared a flat in Ealing, whose surnames were Page and Plant (and which their doorbell proudly displayed) - Just an ageing Hippy anecdote. An evening with "The Soft Machine" at thhe Rainbow - Sat Feb 24th 1973 - �1-50 Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil Jenkins Sent: 21 June 2005 09:39 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] BonzoGig_mm3-29-69 Thanks for this, Marcelle! :-) 25 shillings, eh?! And a mere 12 shillings and sixpence to see Bonzo Dog. Mind you, I was only 6 when Britain "went decimal" so am not in a position to comment on the prices in "old money"! From neil_jenkins.geo@... Wed Jun 22 10:46:05 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:46:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050622084605.74706.qmail@...> Well, this post has certainly gone a little odd (and has nothing to do with thebarguest's original intent!). Jan has just as much right to post her views in here as any of us, and her initial input to this thread (though admittedly negative) was a fair one (as we've established). True, this group contains a lot of Peel "fans" (and I count myself amongst them) but surely, at some point, Jan has been inspired to join this group and, for me, inspiration is what it's all about. John has said himself on numerous occassions that critical, negative correspondence from listeners thrilled him more than positive ones (albeit for different reasons). Those who complained obviously felt inspired to do so. It would indeed be a shame if Jan posted only negative comments but she does post other stuff too! Either way, I regard even negativity as more valuable than indifference. The talk of "elitism" and "eclecticism" here are rather disturbing, and perhaps a little misguided. One thing I've learned from 27 years of listening to John's shows is that eclecticism fuels taste ... PERSONAL taste. The most important thing is to work out what YOU like and what YOU dislike, and the best way to discover this to a great depth is by having an eclectic input. John, over many years, has given us the input to allow us all to work out what are tastes are. But they will always be PERSONAL tastes. What you hated hearing on the Peel Show another person was lapping up. The joy then comes from sharing your musical loves with others in the hope that SOME of it will also be loved by them. Come on guys! Let's enjoy what we have. And if someone in the group posts a message saying that something is rubbish, crap, the worst, etc., just remember it's THEIR OPINION, that's all. Nothing in music, or indeed anything involving taste, is definitive. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From ajcauk@... Wed Jun 22 11:34:42 2005 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Bath Jazz&Blues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050622093442.60848.qmail@...> > Festival of Blues & ?????? Music (only got � the > ticket) > 27th - 28th June 1970 That would have to be the Bath Jazz and Blues Festival 1970 at the Somerset Show Ground famous for giving Michael Eavis, who'd jumped the fence, the inspiration to start his Glastonbury Fayres on Worthy Farm a few miles away. > Price 50/- (Mind you we only paid 20/- [�1] as some > of the security were > reselling used tickets). > From memory. > Maynard Ferguson > Donovan > Led Zeppelin > Pink Floyd (debut performance of Atom Heart Mother) My primary reason for going but they took so long to come on i fell asleep grrr > Mothers of Invention > Canned Heat > Steppenwolf > Jefferson Airplane > Hot Tuna > Flock > Dr. John > The Byrds > Country Joe & the Fish > John Mayall > I'm pretty certain there were some more English > bands, but for the life of > me, I cannot remember them. others worthy of mention Santana Fairport Convention -brought in by some Hells Angels on their bikes Colosseum Johnny Winter It's a Beautiful Day predominantly americans i know i was there but kind of only half there when i start to read the google entries on what was my first weekend festival. As i remember it 200,OOO people or so in one field served by maybe 3 hamburger stalls and on compering duties John Peel if i'm not mistaken. alanjc ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From thebarguest@... Wed Jun 22 11:38:54 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:38:54 -0000 Subject: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050622084605.74706.qmail@...> Message-ID: If you follow the links, you'll see that Jan is a chap, not a lass, from Lancaster University. I'll bet there are not many lasses in this virtual pub ! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Neil Jenkins wrote: > Well, this post has certainly gone a little odd (and has nothing to do with thebarguest's original intent!). > > Jan has just as much right to post her views in here as any of us, and her initial input to this thread (though admittedly negative) was a fair one (as we've established). True, this group contains a lot of Peel "fans" (and I count myself amongst them) but surely, at some point, Jan has been inspired to join this group and, for me, inspiration is what it's all about. John has said himself on numerous occassions that critical, negative correspondence from listeners thrilled him more than positive ones (albeit for different reasons). Those who complained obviously felt inspired to do so. It would indeed be a shame if Jan posted only negative comments but she does post other stuff too! Either way, I regard even negativity as more valuable than indifference. > > The talk of "elitism" and "eclecticism" here are rather disturbing, and perhaps a little misguided. One thing I've learned from 27 years of listening to John's shows is that eclecticism fuels taste ... PERSONAL taste. The most important thing is to work out what YOU like and what YOU dislike, and the best way to discover this to a great depth is by having an eclectic input. John, over many years, has given us the input to allow us all to work out what are tastes are. But they will always be PERSONAL tastes. What you hated hearing on the Peel Show another person was lapping up. The joy then comes from sharing your musical loves with others in the hope that SOME of it will also be loved by them. > > Come on guys! Let's enjoy what we have. And if someone in the group posts a message saying that something is rubbish, crap, the worst, etc., just remember it's THEIR OPINION, that's all. > > Nothing in music, or indeed anything involving taste, is definitive. > > > Best regards, > Neil > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Wed Jun 22 12:02:04 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:02:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050622100204.31817.qmail@...> Oh well ... easy mistake to make. Sorry Jan! My point still applies though, obviously. Pint of Marsden's Pedigree please, mate! thebarguest wrote: If you follow the links, you'll see that Jan is a chap, not a lass, from Lancaster University. I'll bet there are not many lasses in this virtual pub ! Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From ajcauk@... Wed Jun 22 13:01:32 2005 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:01:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050622100204.31817.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050622110132.70310.qmail@...> > Pint of Marsden's Pedigree please, mate! > > Neil i think u'll find that's Marston's Pedigree unless the hospital is putting its own brand out petty i know but in my defence i can only say peelie was a stickler for spelling alanjc ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From janb@... Wed Jun 22 12:59:51 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:59:51 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42B944A7.6050603@...> Phil Edwards wrote: > Sorry, I couldn't resist. Somehow, I knew you'd "bite". :-) > The point I was trying to get across re. Zane Lowe and eclecticism (and of > course, his devotees) is that he plays such a limited choice of genres Well I haven't listened to any radio in a few months, but Zane plays guitar music, dance, and rap (with all their various subgenres), plus the odd oddity (I first heard Hayseed Dixie on his show, Joanna Newsom, ukulele orchestra etc). > Maybe it's just me, but I feel, I've gone full circle, ie. singles in the > early '60's, then mainly albums in late '60's and early '70's but now I > prefer the sheer variety that singles offer and after all it's not many > albums these days that can hold my interest apart from a few selected > artists. I've just bought a big shedload of albums in the past few months, both new and old. > I think the last time we "crossed swords", I believe I may have cast doubts > on your "raison d'�tre" for being a member of this group and I am still > somewhat intrigued as I, myself would not bother to join a "fan" group > dedicated to someone I thought of as simply "OK". I just would not waste my > time. I have a lot of time. Seriously I liked Peel but I don't consider it shameful to like other radio shows too. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From neil_jenkins.geo@... Wed Jun 22 13:31:04 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:31:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050622110132.70310.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050622113104.70842.qmail@...> It's funny ... I'd put "Marston's" originally, then when reading before sending decided it didn't look right, so changed it to "Marsten's" and decided that was no better, then went for "Marsden's" which looked marginally better so I pressed Send! A clear example of how thinking doesn't help sometimes. (Alan to group: "Oh, so Neil thinks sometimes?!") Your comment reminds me of a friend of mine (called Wayne, poor lad) who was rather pedantic by nature and would always mention the slightest thing that was incorrect, not quite true, etc. One day at his mum's house (witnessed by another friend who was there at the time) Wayne was being typically pedantic about something or other and his mum, losing it, shouted "Oh Wayne, I'm sick and tired of your pedanticness!". After a tense pause Wayne said, "Actually Mum, I think you'll find the word is pedantry". cannon alan wrote: > Pint of Marsden's Pedigree please, mate! > > Neil i think u'll find that's Marston's Pedigree unless the hospital is putting its own brand out petty i know but in my defence i can only say peelie was a stickler for spelling alanjc Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From janb@... Wed Jun 22 13:50:39 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:50:39 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050622084605.74706.qmail@...> References: <20050622084605.74706.qmail@...> Message-ID: <42B9508F.4000200@...> Neil Jenkins wrote: > Well, this post has certainly gone a little odd (and has nothing to do > with thebarguest's original intent!). > > Jan has just as much right to post her views in here as any of us, and > her He and his. :-) -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From janb@... Wed Jun 22 14:00:11 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:00:11 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050622110132.70310.qmail@...> References: <20050622110132.70310.qmail@...> Message-ID: <42B952CB.9070603@...> cannon alan wrote: >>Pint of Marsden's Pedigree please, mate! >> >>Neil > > > i think u'll find that's Marston's Pedigree Ah I thought so. I had a pint of that, it was awful, perhaps just a bad pint. A pint of Lia Fail for me, a nice tipple I sampled at last weeks Grad Bar (www.gradbar.co.uk) Beer Festival. -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From stuart@... Wed Jun 22 15:34:20 2005 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:34:20 +0100 Subject: BonzoGig_mm3-29-69 In-Reply-To: <1119443987.578.62022.m17@yahoogroups.com> References: <1119443987.578.62022.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: >An evening with "The Soft Machine" at thhe Rainbow - Sat Feb 24th 1973 - >£1-50 22nd June: The SOFT MACHINE Legacy, The Spiegeltent £16 How times change, eh - for that money I'd want Wyatt at least! S -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is this music? po box 13516 linlithgow eh49 6wb scotland email: editor@isthismusic.com tel: ++44 (0)1506 840063 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.bravin@... Wed Jun 22 18:23:25 2005 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:23:25 +0200 Subject: [peel] Bath Jazz&Blues In-Reply-To: <20050622093442.60848.qmail@...> References: <20050622093442.60848.qmail@...> Message-ID: <42B9907D.4000808@...> More details of the 1970 Bath Festival on www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hotel/8117/Bath01.html and http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/ebony/546/bA1.html. Including a short 8mm film of the festival. Did I really look like that.... I do remember John Peel and Mike Raven making the obligatory "Suzie from Streatham is having a bad acid trip stage left" announcements. Interesting that most of the artists on the the original line-up have toured Europe in 2005. Certainly the Byrds, Colosseum, Country Joe, Canned Heat, Donovan, Hot Tuna, Jefferson Airplane, John Mayall, Pink Floyd, Santana, Steppenwolf, Jonny Winter, Hawkwind, Fairport Convention, Moody Blues, Dr John have all toured this year. So sad that the almost the only exception is John Peel.... Wonder if all this year's Glastonbury line up will all be touring in 2040...... Somehow I doubt it, they probably make their money in the first 5 years of their career rather than the last 5 years as used to be the case. John cannon alan wrote: > > > Festival of Blues & ?????? Music (only got � the > > ticket) > > 27th - 28th June 1970 > > From festive50@... Thu Jun 23 00:47:31 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:47:31 +0100 Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <42B944A7.6050603@...> Message-ID: Firstly before I read the rest of replies (I get the general gist). A big SORRY! to Jan. I should have just bitten my tongue. But unfortunately, I'd had a "crap" day at work (95� C in the office). Took 1� Hrs getting home from work (for a journey that usually takes 20 mins)in a car whose fan had packed up and hence the air conditioning. Tonights journey would have been the same but I took a detour and popped round my sister's, to wait for traffic to die down. (There is a point to all this). Bottom line, my nephew has decided to give me the rest of his John Peel tapes (approx 300). Which now means I have practically every JP show from 1990 - 1992, which I plan to digitise and put on server to share. As to "Marsden's Pedigree". Quite right to pull up on the spilling (sic), as John would certainly have commented. Once again Jan SORRY! Hugs and kisses Jan, and in case you are a bloke, then manly Hugs and kisses. Phil P.S. Anyway he/she started it. Tee Hee. From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 23 10:08:07 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:08:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050623080807.49759.qmail@...> Phil Edwards wrote: > But unfortunately, I'd had a "crap" day at work (95� C in the office). Good God! That's a mere 5�C below the boiling point of water! No WONDER you had a crap day! But it's the ideal water temperature for making instant coffee, so (if you're an instant coffee drinker) that would have saved you a little time! :-) > Which now means I have practically every JP show from 1990 - 1992, > which I plan to digitise and put on server to share. This is excellent! There's tons of stuff from that period I'd like to hear again, or have on compilation tapes I made (stupidly without John's links - DUH!) but have long since lost the track details. Words can't describe how fantastic this is! :-) > As to "Marsden's Pedigree". Quite right to pull up on the spilling (sic), > as John would certainly have commented. Oh, I've been made to feel bad enough already! Lay off!! :-( :-p Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From rigmahus@... Thu Jun 23 10:47:35 2005 From: rigmahus@... (rigmahus) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:47:35 -0000 Subject: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050623080807.49759.qmail@...> Message-ID: This is great news, one thing about collecting all this back catalog of JP shows is - and this is not a complaint, just a niggling thought - how is there going to be time to listen to it all? We are all going to find ourselves in the position JP was in with trying to listen to all the music he was sent. It's like we are all striving to find more and more, yet the listening time grows and grows! stevo > This is excellent! There's tons of stuff from that period I'd like to hear again, or have on compilation tapes I made (stupidly without John's links - DUH!) but have long since lost the track details. Words can't describe how fantastic this is! :-) > > > As to "Marsden's Pedigree". Quite right to pull up on the spilling (sic), > > as John would certainly have commented. > > Oh, I've been made to feel bad enough already! Lay off!! :-( > > :-p > > > Best regards, > Neil > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From colinbray@... Thu Jun 23 12:58:52 2005 From: colinbray@... (colin bray) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:58:52 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Along the lines of having time to listen to the old shows... Something that has bothered me over the years of taping Peel (about 750 shows) is that this is somehow against the spirit of the man himself. Every year that goes by since a show was taped means that we are listening to older and older stuff when Peel himself would have largely consigned that to history and be listening to the latest record by the latest fresh young things. Any thoughts? Colin. >From: "rigmahus" >Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com >To: peel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:47:35 -0000 > >This is great news, one thing about collecting all this back catalog >of JP shows is - and this is not a complaint, just a niggling >thought - how is there going to be time to listen to it all? We are >all going to find ourselves in the position JP was in with trying to >listen to all the music he was sent. It's like we are all striving to >find more and more, yet the listening time grows and grows! > >stevo > > > This is excellent! There's tons of stuff from that period I'd like >to hear again, or have on compilation tapes I made (stupidly without >John's links - DUH!) but have long since lost the track details. >Words can't describe how fantastic this is! :-) > > > > > As to "Marsden's Pedigree". Quite right to pull up on the >spilling (sic), > > > as John would certainly have commented. > > > > Oh, I've been made to feel bad enough already! Lay off!! :-( > > > > :-p > > > > > > Best regards, > > Neil > > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps >for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos > > From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 23 14:01:30 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:01:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050623120130.99862.qmail@...> John once said, "I just want to hear something I haven't heard before". Well, in your (rather impressive!) collection of 750 Peel shows there's bound to be tons of stuff that many people haven't heard before. We said a while back on another thread that even old music can be new for someone. Therefore, what you have in your possession is around 1500 hours (that's 2 months, continuous!) of material that'll be new to lots of people! colin bray wrote: Along the lines of having time to listen to the old shows... Something that has bothered me over the years of taping Peel (about 750 shows) is that this is somehow against the spirit of the man himself. Every year that goes by since a show was taped means that we are listening to older and older stuff when Peel himself would have largely consigned that to history and be listening to the latest record by the latest fresh young things. Any thoughts? Colin. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From mar.celle@... Thu Jun 23 14:23:04 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:04 +0200 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1029 In-Reply-To: <1119527091.214.47138.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000001c577ee$51292560$9700000a@PC154981710422> ______________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:58:52 +0000 From: "colin bray" Subject: RE: Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe Along the lines of having time to listen to the old shows... Something that has bothered me over the years of taping Peel (about 750 shows) is that this is somehow against the spirit of the man himself. Every year that goes by since a show was taped means that we are listening to older and older stuff when Peel himself would have largely consigned that to history and be listening to the latest record by the latest fresh young things. This is exactly what I was thinking the last couple of months. I also have lots of old Peel tapes/ reel to reels (1979-2004) and people wanting copies but I just can't get round to doing that as I prefer to listen to new music. In general my reaction to Peel's passing is a bit of the opposite to what some people here seem to do. Instead of digging up the old tapes (which I felt too sad for anyway in the beginning, crying all the time when hearing his voice) I've started listening to (even more) new music every week, in an almost addictive way.... I buy loads of records (and also get them send for Another Nice Mess). My instinctive feeling kind of was / is that ''now John can't listen to all this new music for us anymore we have to do it ourselves''. And also I find it more challenging to listen to new stuff. And that's what I do: listening to new music in record shops, clubs....I get every week more reactions (and music) from all over the world (esp. UK and USA but also Germany) from music fans liking Another Nice Mess, also from artists themselves. And that makes me feel very grateful, keeping the Peel spirit alive in my small way. Hope I don't sound too sentimental..... love Ms. Marcelle van Hoof (Jan is a male name in Holland so I didn't understand the confusion in the 1st place....) PS Jon E Cash sent me ELEVEN 12-inches to play last week..... 'Unfortunately' his package didn't contain that 'Kamikaze John Peel VIP' tune Peel himself played prior to his passing....does anyone know whether this is released on vinyl?? PS But I listened to that Peel 1978 clip from the Tapes site...his voice sounded so 'quiet' those days...or not? From letitbe2000@... Thu Jun 23 15:36:23 2005 From: letitbe2000@... (Dave McGurgan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: peel shows on tape In-Reply-To: <20050623120130.99862.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050623133623.61736.qmail@...> Lot of talk about folks who have old shows on tape. that's exactly the kind of thing i'm looking to put on tk3k. get in touch if you have stuff to share. i can even handle the digitizing. dave http://www.davemcgurgan.com From rigmahus@... Thu Jun 23 15:39:04 2005 From: rigmahus@... (rigmahus) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:39:04 -0000 Subject: Digest Number 1029 In-Reply-To: <000001c577ee$51292560$9700000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: > PS But I listened to that Peel 1978 clip from the Tapes site...his voice > sounded so 'quiet' those days...or not? Is that not something to do with Radio 1 setting all their output compression gear to : FIZZ! these days? Jumping between channels in the car - R2,R4,Classical, back to R1 and the sound always jumps out at you and is louder. I dunno... From moomin@... Thu Jun 23 15:43:26 2005 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:43:26 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8Ihd+JC+xruCFwUJ@...> In message , colin bray writes >Along the lines of having time to listen to the old shows... > >Something that has bothered me over the years of taping Peel (about 750 >shows) is that this is somehow against the spirit of the man himself. >Every year that goes by since a show was taped means that we are >listening to older and older stuff when Peel himself would have largely >consigned that to history and be listening to the latest record by the >latest fresh young things. Well, up to a point, but remember we are talking about a man who kept just about the largest record collection in human history, all neatly ordered and classified! Peel's job *as a disc jockey* was to provide his listeners with the latest new young sounds, but as listeners I don't think we need to take that approach so much to heart. When I was younger and always trying to keep up with the latest interesting records, I gradually found it more and more stressful because of the idea of missing out on something good, but I've come to relax more about that. I don't see any harm in listening to old records or Peel tapes, and let Marcelle's and other internet programmes give you an idea of what's happening at the moment. -- simon smith From neil_jenkins.geo@... Thu Jun 23 16:02:12 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:02:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Re: Digest Number 1029 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050623140212.94878.qmail@...> Maybe you just have a very good car stereo! :-) On a more serious note, I've noticed a tendency towards shouted presentation rather than spoken presentation these days. From radio to television, it's the same ... especially for stuff aimed at "young people". And there's a particular intonation that seems to be the norm. Like the announcement before the OneMusic shows ... "And now, Rob Da Bank" ... shouted with the now standard intonation. Erm, ... or am I just moaning again?!?! :-D rigmahus wrote: Jumping between channels in the car - R2,R4,Classical, back to R1 and the sound always jumps out at you and is louder. I dunno... Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From festive50@... Thu Jun 23 17:34:22 2005 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:34:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050623080807.49759.qmail@...> References: <20050623080807.49759.qmail@...> Message-ID: <23013.195.188.213.34.1119540862.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Doh! Quite right Neil. That should have been 95�F (approx 35�C) Phil >> But unfortunately, I'd had a "crap" day at work (95� C in the office). > > Good God! That's a mere 5�C below the boiling point of water! No WONDER > you had a crap day! But it's the ideal water temperature for making > instant coffee, so (if you're an instant coffee drinker) that would have > saved you a little time! :-) > >> Which now means I have practically every JP show from 1990 - 1992, >> which I plan to digitise and put on server to share. > > This is excellent! There's tons of stuff from that period I'd like to > hear again, or have on compilation tapes I made (stupidly without John's > links - DUH!) but have long since lost the track details. Words can't > describe how fantastic this is! :-) > >> As to "Marsden's Pedigree". Quite right to pull up on the spilling >> (sic), >> as John would certainly have commented. > > Oh, I've been made to feel bad enough already! Lay off!! :-( > > :-p > > > Best regards, > Neil > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE > with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From jon.horne@... Thu Jun 23 22:04:15 2005 From: jon.horne@... (Jon Horne) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:15 -0000 Subject: Digest Number 1029 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is true. However you need to consider the technology of the taper, too. My old tapes were recorded on a cassette player. If the tape itself is in reasonable nick (few of them are, after all these years), then you hear pretty much what I heard on the radio when it was being taped. All my stuff from 2000 onwards was recorded on a minidisc, which compresses everything to buggery. Personally I prefer the latter. A case in point: I have the great Peel session version of Culture's "Lion Rock" on record. I also minidisc'd it off the radio one night. The former is a great song and a great record, but the latter sounds as if I've got Joseph Hill standing next to me, blowing herb smoke in my face and prophesising the imminent collapse of Babylon. I'll take the compression any day. Cheers, Jon (c/o The Peel Tapes) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "rigmahus" wrote: > > > PS But I listened to that Peel 1978 clip from the Tapes site...his > voice > > sounded so 'quiet' those days...or not? > > Is that not something to do with Radio 1 setting all their output > compression gear to : FIZZ! these days? > > Jumping between channels in the car - R2,R4,Classical, back to R1 and > the sound always jumps out at you and is louder. I dunno... From brian@... Thu Jun 23 23:11:33 2005 From: brian@... (electrophotic) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:11:33 -0000 Subject: Digest Number 1029 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The BBC use 'Optimod' dynamic compression on virtually all their radio broadcast output. Dynamic compression is where the loudest parts of the music are kept at the same level, but the quietest parts are increased in level. It has been applied in varying degrees to Radio 3 classical music programmes for the last few years, much to the consternation of many of their listeners who listen using decent hi-fi setups. Radio 1 is aimed more at people listening on car radios/portables/low-end hi-fi and is heavily compressed. Compressed music does sound better in some circumstances - for instance on a car radio, where you have such a lot of background noise from traffic etc., and quiet bits would be lost without compression. (Most TV adverts are heavily compressed, which gives the impression that the ads are always louder than the programmes. The peak levels are actually the same, but most ads don't have many quiet bits because those quiet bits have been made louder). Data compression (or data reduction) is different to dynamic compression. To fit 80 minutes of music onto a minidisc the music has to be reduced to smaller file size(s) and this is done by some clever electronics which decide which bits of information can be discarded without affecting the sound quality too much. Unfortunately, when overdone, data reduction can make music sound terrible. I listened to John Peel's Radio 1 broadcasts for many years and it was very noticeable that his very laid back, calm and unhurried style became something very different; I can only describe his late 1990s/early 2000s broadcasts as sounding slightly abrasive/anxious/stumbling/stressed. I'm not sure if this change in style was in any way deliberate, but being John Peel it was probably natural evolvement. The 1990s were anxious times for Radio 1 (falling listener numbers) and I'm sure a more aggressive style suited the top men at the beeb. One thing that is very obvious on the last 3 or 4 years of John Peel's programmes was the amount of distortion in his voice, and I think this could only be due to engineers at the Radio 1 studio cranking up the levels well into the red, perhaps in an attempt to make Radio 1 the 'loudest and grooviest station on air'. I found this distortion really annoying and I almost complained to the BBC about it, but I thought the people at Radio 1 wouldn't be interested in the opinion of an old fart like me. Enjoy the music. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Horne" wrote: > This is true. However you need to consider the technology of the taper, too. My old > tapes were recorded on a cassette player. If the tape itself is in reasonable nick (few > of them are, after all these years), then you hear pretty much what I heard on the > radio when it was being taped. All my stuff from 2000 onwards was recorded on a > minidisc, which compresses everything to buggery. > > Personally I prefer the latter. A case in point: I have the great Peel session version of > Culture's "Lion Rock" on record. I also minidisc'd it off the radio one night. The former > is a great song and a great record, but the latter sounds as if I've got Joseph Hill > standing next to me, blowing herb smoke in my face and prophesising the imminent > collapse of Babylon. I'll take the compression any day. > > Cheers, > Jon > > (c/o The Peel Tapes) > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "rigmahus" wrote: > > > > > PS But I listened to that Peel 1978 clip from the Tapes site...his > > voice > > > sounded so 'quiet' those days...or not? > > > > Is that not something to do with Radio 1 setting all their output > > compression gear to : FIZZ! these days? > > > > Jumping between channels in the car - R2,R4,Classical, back to R1 and > > the sound always jumps out at you and is louder. I dunno... From festive50@... Thu Jun 23 23:36:18 2005 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:36:18 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I must admit it is a struggle. But with a bit of discipline it can be done. I play the old Peel tapes in the car and can generally get through approx 5 tapes a week (and that's probably listening to each 2 or more times). Whenever I can whip my laptop out, I listen to the new stuff from Marcelle, Rob and Huw. As to listening to new stuff well some of the stuff he played 15 years ago still sounds fresh today (and a vast amount, I hadn't heard previously). Phil -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of colin bray Sent: 23 June 2005 11:59 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] Re: we miss john peel - mtv2 europe Along the lines of having time to listen to the old shows... Something that has bothered me over the years of taping Peel (about 750 shows) is that this is somehow against the spirit of the man himself. Every year that goes by since a show was taped means that we are listening to older and older stuff when Peel himself would have largely consigned that to history and be listening to the latest record by the latest fresh young things. Any thoughts? Colin. From sdmaclean@... Fri Jun 24 02:23:07 2005 From: sdmaclean@... (sdmaclean@...) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:23:07 +0000 Subject: Album dedicated to... Message-ID: <062420050023.4717.42BB526B0004EAA80000126D2200763704020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> The new Laura Cantrell is "dedicated to the memory of John Peel" and includes Sheila (Pig) in the thank yous too. She's finally playing Seattle in July, I am v excited for this show. Good album, if not as stupendous as the first. Stu -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Stuart McHugh Subject: [peel] Cuban Boys tribute Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:49:13 +0000 Size: 909 URL: From sdmaclean@... Fri Jun 24 02:49:13 2005 From: sdmaclean@... (sdmaclean@...) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:49:13 +0000 Subject: my last post... Message-ID: <062420050049.15619.42BB58890001757E00003D032207002953020E0A040C0E030B9C@...> To clear up any possible confusion over my last post, it's Laura Cantrell and not Sheila Ravenscroft who is playing a show in Seattle in July ;) stu From bingoandsnork@... Fri Jun 24 12:50:44 2005 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:50:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <23013.195.188.213.34.1119540862.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <20050624105044.83874.qmail@...> I've just been reading all the posts connected to this thread. Can I just check everything that is being said? MTV2 peel nights - good. Snobbery - bad. Jan - bloke, unless your Neil - in which case gender bending. Either way, good. Neil - gentleman. Unless he drinks the contents of a hospital. Then he's ready for anything. It's degrees F, not degrees C. Listening to old Peel tapes can be against what Peel wanted unless you have short term memory loss, in which case every tape is a new adventure. It takes discipline to listen to all his shows without wanting to fast forward the Crusty Ambulance tracks. Really it should be a martial art. Zane Lowe - Nothing like Nick Lowe. But not as bad as some people think. Is not Peel. Everybody's sorry unless you spill their pint in the virtual pub. In which case - outside. Now. Diversity - as inevitable in a thread made by Peel fans as it is in his old shows. Pedantic - pedantry. We can not spall. Did I miss anything? Aaaahh bartender. A pint of your finest sherry and don't forget the slice of lime. festive50@... wrote: Doh! Quite right Neil. That should have been 95�F (approx 35�C) Phil >> But unfortunately, I'd had a "crap" day at work (95� C in the office). > > Good God! That's a mere 5�C below the boiling point of water! No WONDER > you had a crap day! But it's the ideal water temperature for making > instant coffee, so (if you're an instant coffee drinker) that would have > saved you a little time! :-) > >> Which now means I have practically every JP show from 1990 - 1992, >> which I plan to digitise and put on server to share. > > This is excellent! There's tons of stuff from that period I'd like to > hear again, or have on compilation tapes I made (stupidly without John's > links - DUH!) but have long since lost the track details. Words can't > describe how fantastic this is! :-) > >> As to "Marsden's Pedigree". Quite right to pull up on the spilling >> (sic), >> as John would certainly have commented. > > Oh, I've been made to feel bad enough already! Lay off!! :-( > > :-p > > > Best regards, > Neil > www.neiljenkins.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE > with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From mar.celle@... Fri Jun 24 17:05:50 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:05:50 +0200 Subject: thanks Message-ID: <000c01c578ce$35d254e0$9600000a@lan> thank you, Stu!!! And what about that Jon E Cash' John Peel VIP?? has anyone ever seen that on record??? love Marcelle Message: 11 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:23:07 +0000 From: sdmaclean@... Subject: Album dedicated to... The new Laura Cantrell is "dedicated to the memory of John Peel" and includes Sheila (Pig) in the thank yous too. She's finally playing Seattle in July, I am v excited for this show. Good album, if not as stupendous as the first. Stu From martinwheatley@... Fri Jun 24 18:47:52 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:47:52 +0100 Subject: [peel] thanks In-Reply-To: <000c01c578ce$35d254e0$9600000a@lan> References: <000c01c578ce$35d254e0$9600000a@lan> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050624174658.02130d18@...> At 16:05 24/06/2005, you wrote: >thank you, Stu!!! And what about that Jon E Cash' John Peel VIP?? has >anyone ever seen that on record??? > >love Marcelle > >Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:23:07 +0000 > From: sdmaclean@... >Subject: Album dedicated to... > >The new Laura Cantrell is "dedicated to the memory of John Peel" and >includes Sheila (Pig) in the thank yous too. She's finally playing >Seattle in July, I am v excited for this show. Good album, if not as >stupendous as the first. > >Stu > Laura has a live set on WFMU tomorrow See http://www.wfmu.org/upcoming for details martinw From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sat Jun 25 13:18:57 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:18:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050624105044.83874.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050625111857.47050.qmail@...> Pity about the phrasing! :-( dean coster wrote:Neil - in which case gender bending. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sat Jun 25 13:38:23 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:38:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Does anyone have a copy of Marcelle's 14 June show? Message-ID: <20050625113823.7741.qmail@...> Hi All, Having been away from a non-firewall-protected internet connection for more than two weeks I've been unable to hear Marcelle van Hoof's show of Tuesday 14 June. Did anyone take a copy of it in some form or other, per chance? Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From rockerq@... Sat Jun 25 15:07:15 2005 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:07:15 EDT Subject: [peel] Does anyone have a copy of Marcelle's 14 June show? Message-ID: <74.568949a5.2feeb103@...> > Marcelle van Hoof's show of Tuesday 14 June > This show has not been available via listen again - the previous week's 3 hour show was up for 2 weeks. Maybe if you email Marcelle and ask her nicely...! Cheers! Rocker From ajcauk@... Sat Jun 25 18:01:37 2005 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:01:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Avalon Radio/ glasto weekend In-Reply-To: <74.568949a5.2feeb103@...> Message-ID: <20050625160137.39857.qmail@...> hey guys log in to www.glastonburyfm.co.uk the connection is pretty continuous now (sat 5PM)tho a bit distorted they could do with some hits remember there is the john peel stage doing very well apparently without a moat around it alanjc ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From bingoandsnork@... Sat Jun 25 19:29:13 2005 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:29:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050625111857.47050.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050625172913.91227.qmail@...> A phrase I've used with transvestites I've know and loved. But I can see how it can cause offence if you don't know people. So for that I'll apologise. Neil Jenkins wrote:Pity about the phrasing! :-( dean coster wrote: Neil - in which case gender bending. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From bingoandsnork@... Sat Jun 25 19:29:44 2005 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:29:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050625111857.47050.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050625172944.99539.qmail@...> A phrase I've used with transvestites I've know and loved. But I can see how it can cause offence if you don't know people. So for that I'll apologise. Neil Jenkins wrote: Pity about the phrasing! :-( dean coster wrote: Neil - in which case gender bending. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sun Jun 26 02:17:38 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:17:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Does anyone have a copy of Marcelle's 14 June show? In-Reply-To: <20050625113823.7741.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050626001738.69895.qmail@...> Hi All, I found a copy from one of you fine souls and am already half way through it!! :-) Many thanks! Neil Jenkins wrote: Hi All, Having been away from a non-firewall-protected internet connection for more than two weeks I've been unable to hear Marcelle van Hoof's show of Tuesday 14 June. Did anyone take a copy of it in some form or other, per chance? Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From neil_jenkins.geo@... Sun Jun 26 02:23:41 2005 From: neil_jenkins.geo@... (Neil Jenkins) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:23:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050625172913.91227.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050626002341.79189.qmail@...> I wasn't being that serious, Dean!! dean coster wrote: A phrase I've used with transvestites I've know and loved. But I can see how it can cause offence if you don't know people. So for that I'll apologise. Neil Jenkins wrote: Pity about the phrasing! :-( dean coster wrote: Neil - in which case gender bending. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From bingoandsnork@... Sun Jun 26 16:50:39 2005 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:50:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] we miss john peel - mtv2 europe In-Reply-To: <20050626002341.79189.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20050626145039.76491.qmail@...> When you're dealing with Peel fans you can never be too careful Neil Jenkins wrote:I wasn't being that serious, Dean!! dean coster wrote: A phrase I've used with transvestites I've know and loved. But I can see how it can cause offence if you don't know people. So for that I'll apologise. Neil Jenkins wrote: Pity about the phrasing! :-( dean coster wrote: Neil - in which case gender bending. Best regards, Neil www.neiljenkins.org --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From janb@... Sun Jun 26 19:58:29 2005 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:58:29 +0100 Subject: Mentions of Peel Message-ID: <42BEECC5.6040507@...> Chris Martin dedicated Everything's Not Lost to Peel mid-song last night. And a new interview with Darren Hayman here, http://www.hefnet.com/interview.htm which includes the following, "Last December the Britain's Largest Small Band played for the first time in two years together in tribute to late John Peel. What did you feel when you first learned that John Peel had died? How did it to feel to play together again after such a long break? And (I know it's obvious and probably senseless to ask but.) since Hefner hasn't officially split up yet is the reunion still possible? Me and my wife had just come back from a holiday and my dad told me. My honest first thought was 'well that's my career fucked'. I know its bad and selfish but sometimes you can't predict the way your mind is going to jump. I genuinely miss him, I couldn't call him a friend but I've met him enough times to know him as great company, and of course his impact on my life as musician and a listener has been immense. People like me wouldn't be able to function in this business without him. It felt completely natural to play with Hefner again, like we'd only stopped the day before. The other three guys are such fantastic musicians, they make it so easy for me, they're so simple and focussed. Having said that, no, no reunion planned. Jack's been going round sayingwe'll get back together again for Thatcher's death." -- Jan http://spaces.msn.com/members/janb1982/ From martinwheatley@... Sun Jun 26 20:04:42 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:04:42 +0100 Subject: [peel] Mentions of Peel In-Reply-To: <42BEECC5.6040507@...> References: <42BEECC5.6040507@...> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050626190337.0210be18@...> There was a 1 minutes noise for Peel at Glastonbury last night I heard it on Resonance radio although I didn't record it martinw From colmgallagher@... Sun Jun 26 21:49:51 2005 From: colmgallagher@... (Colm Gallagher) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:51 +0100 Subject: Laura Cantrell In-Reply-To: <1119623260.324.9113.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: SD MaClean said "To clear up any possible confusion over my last post, it's Laura Cantrell and not Sheila Ravenscroft who is playing a show in Seattle in July ;) as John would say "Now THAT IS something I'd Like to see!" Keep it Peel Colm Gallagher From mar.celle@... Mon Jun 27 00:10:19 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:10:19 +0200 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1032 In-Reply-To: <1119783035.376.30314.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000401c57a9b$dd375e00$9700000a@PC154981710422> Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:07:15 EDT From: rockerq@... Subject: Re: Does anyone have a copy of Marcelle's 14 June show? > Marcelle van Hoof's show of Tuesday 14 June > This show has not been available via listen again - the previous week's 3 hour show was up for 2 weeks. Maybe if you email Marcelle and ask her nicely...! Cheers! Rocker [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ From mar.celle@... Mon Jun 27 00:10:19 2005 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:10:19 +0200 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1032 In-Reply-To: <1119783035.376.30314.m17@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000301c57a9b$da2bcbb0$9700000a@PC154981710422> Dear Neil, I recorded it myself on minidisk but i haven't got a clue how to put it in a mp3 form or something like that. But I can run you a copy of the minidisk and send it to you if you want. Also, Sarah (Listen with) always records Another Nice Mess and keeps them on her computer I believe, so if you ask her nicely she might be able to mail it to you? But if you want a minidisk copy I can send it ..... let me know (or Sarah: sarah@... ) Love Marcelle Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:07:15 EDT From: rockerq@... Subject: Re: Does anyone have a copy of Marcelle's 14 June show? > Marcelle van Hoof's show of Tuesday 14 June > This show has not been available via listen again - the previous week's 3 hour show was up for 2 weeks. Maybe if you email Marcelle and ask her nicely...! Cheers! Rocker [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ From martinwheatley@... Mon Jun 27 10:28:52 2005 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:28:52 +0100 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 1032 In-Reply-To: <000301c57a9b$da2bcbb0$9700000a@PC154981710422> References: <1119783035.376.30314.m17@yahoogroups.com> <000301c57a9b$da2bcbb0$9700000a@PC154981710422> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627092715.0206e258@...> At 23:10 26/06/2005, you wrote: > >Dear Neil, > >I recorded it myself on minidisk but i haven't got a clue how to put it >in a mp3 form or something like that. But I can run you a copy of the >minidisk and send it to you if you want. Also, Sarah (Listen with) >always records Another Nice Mess and keeps them on her computer I >believe, so if you ask her nicely she might be able to mail it to you? >But if you want a minidisk copy I can send it ..... let me know (or >Sarah: sarah@... ) > >Love Marcelle Connect your minidisk to the line in on your computer and this free prog will let you copy the file onto your computer in the format of your choice http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/ martinw From rigmahus@... Mon Jun 27 12:03:58 2005 From: rigmahus@... (rigmahus) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:03:58 -0000 Subject: shows on line Message-ID: I was thinking about sticking a few d/loadable shows up on the web, a bit like the ones you get just now - TK3K, Jon's Peel Tapes etc. One slight worry is this: What would download police make of this? Someone like the BPI for example, I mean, would they see the differance between the Bittorrent or Soulseek users sharing the latest chart LP's and an enthusiastic Peel fan just wanting to keep the spirit alive? The latest case of the Mum having to fork out 2 & a half grand because of her daughter's prolific uploading and downloading activities, set me thinking. I'd be very interested on your thoughts, and especially the thoughts of the people already with the Peel sites. Also any potential music industry lurkers who may read this group list, what do you think? regards, stevo From bingoandsnork@... Mon Jun 27 13:20:53 2005 From: bingoandsnork@... (dean coster) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:20:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] shows on line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050627112053.42044.qmail@...> In theory... It makes no difference why you're doing it - copyrighted material is copyrighted material. Apart from the BBC's copyright to the shows any artists on the tapes that are on a label connected to the BPI means that they could lead to a BPI intervention and potential fines. In practice... I've been on a few bootleg/mashup sites and if they do get caught a lot of the time they'll send an e-mail saying 'Please take off offending material' or will contact your server who will take the site down. Something your server could do anyway if you have a clause in your contract that says 'no music uploads'. Then if you ignore or re-post they can get picky. Its up to you, ultimately. Think how long site such as Peter Cook's Establishment or Cookdnbomd have been going for - the blue jam and mixes are ripe for closing down the sites but they're still there. You can reduce your chance of being found, I think a few others in the group could give you some pointers there. Or, you could send your stuff to sites that do post stuff and if they can I'm sure they will do it for you. rigmahus wrote: I was thinking about sticking a few d/loadable shows up on the web, a bit like the ones you get just now - TK3K, Jon's Peel Tapes etc. One slight worry is this: What would download police make of this? Someone like the BPI for example, I mean, would they see the differance between the Bittorrent or Soulseek users sharing the latest chart LP's and an enthusiastic Peel fan just wanting to keep the spirit alive? The latest case of the Mum having to fork out 2 & a half grand because of her daughter's prolific uploading and downloading activities, set me thinking. I'd be very interested on your thoughts, and especially the thoughts of the people already with the Peel sites. Also any potential music industry lurkers who may read this group list, what do you think? regards, stevo --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail From thebarguest@... Wed Jun 29 16:53:23 2005 From: thebarguest@... (thebarguest) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:53:23 -0000 Subject: Peel on UK Gold 2 Tonight Message-ID: For those with cable/satellite tv, UKG2 is showing a repeat of JP on "Room 101" in which he airs his pet hates inc beards (!) and shopping. It's on at 10:40 pm and again at 01:15 am UK time and lasts 30 mins. From madeofale@... Wed Jun 29 19:39:55 2005 From: madeofale@... (Made of Ale) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [peel] Peel on UK Gold 2 Tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29858.207.46.125.17.1120066795.squirrel@...> Anyone able to record this and digitize it so we can see it here in the states? > For those with cable/satellite tv, UKG2 is > showing a repeat of JP on "Room 101" in > which he airs his pet hates inc beards (!) > and shopping. > It's on at 10:40 pm and again at 01:15 am UK time > and lasts 30 mins. > > From pontypoolie@... Wed Jun 29 21:23:58 2005 From: pontypoolie@... (And) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:23:58 -0000 Subject: New old Peel tape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Horne" wrote: > Hi folks, just to let you know I've posted another tape onto The Peel Tapes. It's from > mid-1980. Don't know the exact date, but he mentions that Joy Division's Closer is > "selling in almost embarrassing quantities". There's a session by the Glass Torpedoes > (a Liverpool group, punky Bunnymen sort of thing), and a repeat of a 1977 one by the > Stranglers. > > Cheers, Jon > > http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html Many thanks for posting this show - I'm still trying to get online to grab the second part at a time when my shared ntl thingy allocation hasn't been completely used up! You've posted some really good stuff previously too - much appreciated. Cheers And From garry_latham@... Wed Jun 29 22:41:33 2005 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:41:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [peel] Peel on UK Gold 2 Tonight In-Reply-To: <29858.207.46.125.17.1120066795.squirrel@...> Message-ID: <20050629204133.55303.qmail@...> That would be nice. I'm still kicking myself after missing the first time, or was that This Is Your Life. God now I'm confused. "[Made of Ale]" wrote: Anyone able to record this and digitize it so we can see it here in the states? > For those with cable/satellite tv, UKG2 is > showing a repeat of JP on "Room 101" in > which he airs his pet hates inc beards (!) > and shopping. > It's on at 10:40 pm and again at 01:15 am UK time > and lasts 30 mins. > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "peel" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos