From festive50@... Mon Nov 1 00:42:49 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:42:49 -0000 Subject: More thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1) What's going to happen to his Autobiography, we all know it was half-finished. I for one would be interested in buying it in its current state. 2) His record collection. Saw on Frost this morning, that:- a) The British Museum is interested in buying it b) It could go up for auction (dependant on whether family needed the money), in which case it could leave the country. Personally, I think neither are a satisfactory outcome. The only way that a) will work (as far as Peel and music fans are concerned), is that the British Museum set up a P2P setup, but that'll never happen. 3) Any Show/Internet Radio should at least include anything between 15 mins - 1hr of old Peel shows plus his comments. Where else are we going to get a track by the rev ???????? Franklin (Aretha's father). Phil From festive50@... Mon Nov 1 02:39:29 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 01:39:29 -0000 Subject: Old Peel Shows you've missed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi All E-mail me Privately. Shows, you've missed and want for FREE. Phil From d.mckinnon@... Mon Nov 1 09:03:34 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:03:34 -0000 Subject: Yet another eulogy. Message-ID: I was on holiday when I heard the news of JP's death so this has been my first chance to respond. What can I say that others haven't already said? Probably nothing. My record collection is full to the brim of stuff I wouldn't have heard other than for John. Listening to his shows used to dominate my spare time - re-arranging dates, visits to the pub, etc so that I could hear a specific band in session, doing copies of the show for other people and so on. I can't believe I will never do that again. I only ever met him once and I was so awestruck I just gawped at him and asked him to sign me an autograph, but he did actually read my name out live on air when I e-mailed him and asked for a specific track. Amazingly, he did play the track I asked for, and at the right speed. Obviously my sadness as a listener is nothing compared with that felt by his family and friends, but it still hurts. Thanks for everything John. dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From npu65@... Mon Nov 1 09:23:14 2004 From: npu65@... (Nigel U) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:23:14 -0000 Subject: [peel] Yet another eulogy. References: Message-ID: <003201c4bfec$084eb720$a3832652@yourcmnwt84cv8> MessageThe only time I saw Peelie face to face was during the early 90s while waiting for a train on an otherwise deserted platform at Cambridge. I wanted to say something, but declined because I thought I'd say something daft, and since he was there with one of his daughters I thought it best not to bother him. You always think there'll be another chance... :-/ N ----- Original Message ----- From: McKINNON Dougal To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: [peel] Yet another eulogy. I was on holiday when I heard the news of JP's death so this has been my first chance to respond. What can I say that others haven't already said? Probably nothing. My record collection is full to the brim of stuff I wouldn't have heard other than for John. Listening to his shows used to dominate my spare time - re-arranging dates, visits to the pub, etc so that I could hear a specific band in session, doing copies of the show for other people and so on. I can't believe I will never do that again. I only ever met him once and I was so awestruck I just gawped at him and asked him to sign me an autograph, but he did actually read my name out live on air when I e-mailed him and asked for a specific track. Amazingly, he did play the track I asked for, and at the right speed. Obviously my sadness as a listener is nothing compared with that felt by his family and friends, but it still hurts. Thanks for everything John. dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From troche@... Mon Nov 1 04:23:11 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:23:11 -0500 Subject: Sorry to be bearer of sad news Message-ID: people.co.uk - JOHN PEEL KILLED BY ALTITUDE X-URL: http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14816426%26method=full%26siteid=55768%26headline=john%2dpeel%2dkilled%2dby%2daltitude-name_page.html X-ELNK-AV: 0 JOHN PEEL KILLED BY ALTITUDE Oct 31 2004 Doc's fight to save DJ By David Brown VETERAN DJ John Peel's dream of holidaying in an ancient Inca city may have cost him his life, The People can reveal. The doctor who frantically fought to save him said yesterday that the lack of oxygen 11,000ft above sea level almost certainly triggered off his massive heart attack. Dr Alcides Vargas in Cuzco, Peru, admitted: "It may not be going too far to say Mr Peel would still be alive today if he hadn't come here. "Altitude may very well have been a contributory factor in his death. A lot of people who come here for the first time suffer from altitude sickness." Dr Vargas told how he rushed to the 65-year-old BBC DJ's side after he collapsed in the lobby of the five-star Monasterio Hotel. He said: "Mr Peel was lying on the floor in the lobby and his wife Sheila was crying uncontrollably on a sofa nearby. "Two women friends were trying to restrain her and comfort her both at the same time. The scene was complete hysteria. "We had medical equipment like defibrillators to administer an electric shock and a ventilating bag. But it was no good. "There were no vital signs and his wife was told there was little hope of reviving him. Though we got him in an ambulance and gave him electric shock treatment as a last option when we got to hospital, we couldn't bring him back. "I spoke a little to Mrs Peel to give her my commiserations, but I could see she was devastated. There was a great deal of pain." Dad-of-four John and Sheila, 55, had been on a three-week working holiday to Peru. She and other family members are still trying to cut through red tape so his body can be flown home. A Radio One insider said: "There is a lot of talk about how the altitude may have affected John. "It is a sad irony if he was actually killed by the holiday he had dreamed about going on for years." John could have been particularly vulnerable to altitude sickness after being diagnosed with diabetes three years ago. Dr Vargas said: "People's reaction to altitude is an individual thing. Some are fine, others suffer. In this case there'll have been a risk factor like thrombosis or cholesterol plaque." Last night Prof Mark Hanson, of the British Heart Foundation, warned about the dangers of high-altitude destinations. He said: "Reduced oxygen can flag up undiagnosed heart or other problems." Back Back [LINK] E-mail this article to a friend Printable Version Printable version From martinw@... Mon Nov 1 12:56:40 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:56:40 +0000 Subject: Peel's Progs Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041101113413.02b24ef0@...> Amongst the understandable enthusiasm here for making Peel's old works available something needs to be pointed out All Peel's radio shows are copyright. Now I don't particularly care how much people break that (I may do it myself occasionally!) but you should be aware of it and take precautions because there are risks involved The situation is as I understand it is that the BBC have broadcasting rights on all his progs. We have to distinguish between spoken progs and music progs. Subject to what is in Peel's contract the BBC can do what they like with Home Truths. But the music progs are different - apart from the broadcasting rights all the BBC have is their very expensively acquired agreement with the music industry to stream on the Internet at a low bitrate progs for 7 days after broadcast . The tribute shows will have to start coming down tomorrow because of this. The situation with sessions is complicted Where a band has a major label contract that contract is going to cover all their recorded output so the sessions will be the property of the label with the BBC as an outside producer (this is what's been holding the long planned complete Peel sessions set). Some of the sessions even have a limited number of broadcasts built into the contract and so can't be repeated at all Where the band is with an indie label then they are usually much more open and the sessions usually belong to the BBC but requires the permission of all the participants for anything to be done other than just a re-broadcast on the BBC I doubt if the BBC care about this but the problem is the music industry who are dyslexic.. They can only read one character and its £ The British authorities are beginning to follow the line of the RIAA in America and they don't care about context - they chase old ladies and children So please be careful out there. If it's too widespread and too open you could get into trouble so please some precautions into anything you do martinw From robfleay@... Mon Nov 1 15:08:14 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:08:14 +0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts Message-ID: <20041101140745.EGZA12530.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.162.63]> Thanks to everyone for the great posts/links to old interviews articles and obituaries. It really is astonishing how much love, respect and genuine grief has been expressed since John's passing Unfortunately this seems to have upset the moronic & odious Tony Parsons - whose column in the Daily Mirror today I had the misfortune of reading at a colleague's desk. His barely disguised envy that a media figure could be so universally loved manifests itself in the claim that "Tony Blackburn was a better DJ". Pathetic really. I guess his "job" is to offer controversial opinions but this really was the most disrespectful thing i've ever read. The Mirror was (I think) the only daily that DIDN'T mention John's death on the front page on Wednesday morning and the fact the editor saw fit to run this piece from Parsons really cements its place as "most worthless tabloid in the UK" ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From d.mckinnon@... Mon Nov 1 15:21:00 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:21:00 -0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts Message-ID: For those who want to see the whole of Parson's pitiful article see http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/ Parsons reckons Peel was "horribly blinkered", "narrow-minded" , "unlistenable", "never played Elvis Presley", "championed second-rate rock music", "a pretentious snob", etc. The more I read it the less I'm sure that this column is a wind-up. If it is, it's a welcome departure from the saccharine-drenched dross that Parsons churns out in his turgid books. So, who'll mourn you when you're dead, Tony......? dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From robfleay@... Mon Nov 1 15:19:03 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:19:03 +0000 Subject: [peel] A Proposal to Peel list members Message-ID: <20041101141933.XIQT1100.mta09-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.162.63]> > http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~djhc2/peellist.htm Sounds like a plan to me - i'd definitely be up for being involved..keep me posted! ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From gforsyth@... Mon Nov 1 15:25:44 2004 From: gforsyth@... (gforsyth@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:25:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [peel] More thoughts Message-ID: <18271476.1099319144308.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Well he's obviously after a reaction. But he is certainly INCORRECT re. Elvis Presley: I can recall him playing Mystery Train, for example, and other Elvis I now forget. He played an Elvis song from a Russian pressed 78 once. George Forsyth http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/ Parsons reckons Peel was "horribly blinkered", "narrow-minded" , "unlistenable", "never played Elvis Presley", "championed second-rate rock music", "a pretentious snob", etc. The more I read it the less I'm sure that this column is a wind-up. If it is, it's a welcome departure from the saccharine-drenched dross that Parsons churns out in his turgid books. So, who'll mourn you when you're dead, Tony......? dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... > The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > Get unlimited calls to > U.S./Canada > Yahoo! Groups Links > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm From moomin@... Mon Nov 1 15:34:55 2004 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:34:55 +0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , McKINNON Dougal writes >For those who want to see the whole of Parson's pitiful article see > >http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/ > >Parsons reckons Peel was "horribly blinkered", "narrow-minded" , >"unlistenable", "never played Elvis Presley", "championed second-rate >rock music", "a pretentious snob", etc. The more I read it the less >I'm sure that this column is a wind-up. If it is, it's a welcome >departure from the saccharine-drenched dross that Parsons churns out in >his turgid books. > >So, who'll mourn you when you're dead, Tony......? He and Burchill have had it in for Peel since '78. Burchill liked to call him a pedophile. I believe it was Jon Savage who once called her a 'performing media flea' but the description applies well enough to both of them. They are of no interest. -- simon smith From g.j.steel@... Mon Nov 1 15:34:40 2004 From: g.j.steel@... (g.j.steel@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:34:40 +0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts In-Reply-To: <18271476.1099319144308.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> References: <18271476.1099319144308.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Message-ID: <16774.18816.187912.546129@...> I think he last played elvis on 26th august 2003, twice in 2002.. but then parsons is too much of a lazy and risible little sh*t to actually check any facts. why would peel play elvis while other djs were playing him? the point was he wasn't avoiding already popular bands out of *snobbery*, it was because there was *no need* to push them when they were already all over the radio.. it must be a wind up. nobody's actually that much of a dickhead. On Monday, 1 November, at 15:25, gforsyth@... wrote: > > Well he's obviously after a reaction. But he is certainly INCORRECT > re. Elvis Presley: I can recall him playing Mystery Train, for example, and other > Elvis I now forget. He played an Elvis song from a Russian pressed 78 once. > George Forsyth > > http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/ > > Parsons reckons Peel was "horribly blinkered", "narrow-minded" , "unlistenable", "never played Elvis Presley", "championed second-rate rock music", "a pretentious snob", etc. The more I read it the less I'm sure that this column is a wind-up. If it is, it's a welcome departure from the saccharine-drenched dross that Parsons churns out in his turgid books. > > So, who'll mourn you when you're dead, Tony......? > > dougal mckinnon > E-mail: d.mckinnon@... > > > The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > Get unlimited calls to > > U.S./Canada > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > -- > > Whatever you Wanadoo: > http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ > > This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm > > >


Well he's obviously after a reaction. But he is certainly INCORRECT

>

   re. Elvis Presley: I can recall him playing Mystery Train, for example, and other

>

   Elvis I now forget. He played an Elvis song from a Russian pressed 78 once.

>

   George Forsyth

http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/

>
>
>
 
>
Parsons reckons Peel was "horribly blinkered", "narrow-minded" , "unlistenable", "never played Elvis Presley", "championed second-rate rock music", "a pretentious snob", etc.  The more I read it the less I'm sure that this column is a wind-up.  If it is, it's a welcome departure from the saccharine-drenched dross that Parsons churns out in his turgid books.
>
 
>
So, who'll mourn you when you're dead, Tony......?
>
 
>
>
dougal mckinnon
>
>
E-mail: d.mckinnon@...
>
>
>
>

> The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised.
>
> If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

>



Whatever you Wanadoo

This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT
click here
> > > > > > > >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
> > > > > -- Graham Steel PhD Post Doctoral Research Associate, School of Informatics, Room 3.18, Appleton Tower, Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9LE Phone: 0131 651 3261 Fax: 0131 650 6516 http://dream.dai.ed.ac.uk/graham From djhc2@... Mon Nov 1 16:37:06 2004 From: djhc2@... (djhc2@...) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:37:06 +0000 Subject: Altitude and that idiot columnist Message-ID: Thanks for passing that on Tom - deeply upsetting but it contributes to our making some sense of things. I wished they might have spared details of Sheila's distress though. It's painful, and painful to think of her having to share that with the world. As for that other clown, columnists like him (and his poisonous ex- wife) depend on their cheapskate reputations as (what they would like to think of as) iconoclasts. I don't think he deserves the response he desires from us. Just go into Waterstones and quietly tear the last page out of every one of his abysmal novels you find there. From rockerq@... Mon Nov 1 18:49:25 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:49:25 EST Subject: [peel] More thoughts Message-ID: <13f.537841a.2eb7d125@...> << nobody's actually that much of a dickhead. >> Wanna bet? Rocker From mozy@... Mon Nov 1 19:45:56 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:45:56 -0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts References: <13f.537841a.2eb7d125@...> Message-ID: <004a01c4c043$06b2a7d0$ed99193e@User> << nobody's actually that much of a dickhead. >> Wanna bet? Rocker Quite right! And he's totally missed what Peel was about. He took the time to listen to all those tapes from umsigned bands to bring us the gems. He wasn't there to cater for the mainstream, to trot out the Clash, Springsteen or Bob Marley. Or to continue to play Rod Stewart after he'd started churning out the hits. (Could you imagine Peel playing "Do ya think I'm sexy"?!!!) That was for mainstream, daytime radio, for those sheep who can't think to explore anything beyond their limited musical horizons. Parsons is clearly betraying that he is one of those sheep. Oh. And at John's 60th, I asked what he would do if Rod Stewart landed unannounced in a helicopter. "Set the dogs on him" was his laconic reply. Peel had moved on. So should Parsons. Maureen From dunelm@... Mon Nov 1 20:11:32 2004 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:11:32 -0000 Subject: Peeling Back The Years Message-ID: I listened last night to Andy Kershaw's excellent tribute to Peel on Radio 3. Unless I'm mistaken, most of the clips of John in conversation were taken from a brief series of shows called Peeling Back The Years which were broadcast on Radio 1 on Saturday afternoons in the late eighties. The shows basically consisted of Peel chatting at some length to John Walters about his life, his career in radio and the music he loved. It really was fascinating stuff - does anyone else remember it? Anyway, if this series has indeed survived in the archives, one would hope that the BBC can air it again in full. From ajcauk@... Mon Nov 1 20:28:39 2004 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:28:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: heartbreak hotel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041101192839.51668.qmail@...> further to that on Kershaw played a clip of peelie describing listening to heartbreak hotel for the first time in the fifties and the effect it had on him. wont bother slagging parsons which i could at length but it has to be said he never played ozric tentacles or did he? ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From robstrong@... Mon Nov 1 20:33:17 2004 From: robstrong@... (Rob Strong) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:33:17 -0000 Subject: from zane lowe's mailout Message-ID: <006401c4c049$a3c5a080$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> Hi peeps. So, last week was a sad one for all. The shocking death of John Peel has left a massive hole in the lives of those listen and work on Radio One. I know John's family and friends all appreciate the loving messages sent by text, email and put on the website. A fitting tribute to the most influential radio DJ of all time. As life goes on, so do we. From sqdrldr@... Mon Nov 1 20:47:39 2004 From: sqdrldr@... (sqdrldr) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:47:39 -0000 Subject: A Modest Proposal Part 2 : alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.peel Message-ID: I'm canvassing opinions for the Modest Proposal, which is a Peel Usenet binaries group. Read the original M-P here if you like: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/message/2230 (For those of you who don't yet know what Usenet is or how to use it, I fear this is not the time or place for an explanation. Please hang on or hit Google. Ta) Where I'm at: Thus far I've sent a feeler out to alt.config, which I learn is the polite thing to do. The form of my posting is dictated by alt.config's particular requirements (so apologies for the obvious stuff) and *no other* considerations. I learn that alt groups can be started by anyone, but I'm working out justifications for doing so which could be the basis for a Charter. Your input is requested: feel free to be As Rude As You Like about this proposal, and I especially welcome comments from long-term Yahoo-Peelists who know loads more than I do, and (let's face it) would make any Usenet group sink or swim in the long run. I/we don't have to start absmp or absmj-p after all, and indeed this needn't go any further if people here don't like the sound of it, and can tell me why they don't. I am pretty keen on taking it forward, however. here it is, fyi: 8<--------------------------------snip------------- From: sqdrldr Date: Monday, 1 November 2004, 12:29PM Subject: [PROPOSAL] alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.peel ** Proposal I propose the creation of alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.peel as un unmoderated group for John Peel Radio1 shows and sessions in mp3 format ** General: In case you didn't know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel ** Significant numerical interest: Recent Usenet interest: Google (on 31 Oct 2004) listed some 165 posts on Usenet (alt.domains only) relating to John Peel in the month prior to Oct 31 2004, (not including the hundreds in of binary posts in absm.indie; or including other non-alt hierarchies which returns a number of 390 in the same period) or roughly 12 messages a day in total. Peel was a broadcaster for 37 years on UK national Radio with two shows a week, so it's fair to say there's some depth of history and a wide base of interested parties here, and reaching further back into Google usenet archives confirms this supposition. BTW, His recent untimely death (the very reason for this newsgroup request) was reported by all major global news streams including Reuters, CNN et al and was further covered (at length) by all UK national newspapers, with long encomia and tributes from critics, fans and musicians of the last twenty years, including Prime Minister Tony Blair. And semi- coherent tribute from old alcoholics like Mark E Smith from The Fall, as if that weren't enough. Additionally, a well-known web search engine counts over 300 members in a Peel-centred group, with whom I have discussed the idea of a Peel binaries group and received positive feedback. ** .binaries you say? There are are least 300GB of Peel radio show home-archive materials floating about on various lesser networks known to this author, as well as 272 cd or vinyl releases of Peel radio currently sessions available at Amazon. I suggest a binaries group is neeeded to fill the vacuum Peel's death leaves behind, and to distribute this existing body of work, specifically shows and sessions. ** Why not post this stuff to .indie? Or some other .alt group? Good question. As the 1m listeners Peel attracted every week could tell the uninitiated, the hallmark of Peel shows (hence binary files) was a heartfelt and programmatic disregard for musical genres. Genre-based groups are well catered for. Already people are having to apologise for posting OT reggae or Pink Floyd Peel Sessions to .indie, which is clearly bad idea in the long-term. Posting to a.b.s.radio.bbc would seem to be another logical place, but problem is specificity. The BBC now has no less than 7 radio channels, and I suggest there is no reason for marginalised-music Radio 1 Peel posts to cohabit with mainstream audio posts from the other six, which include spoken-word, drama, comedy news, sport or current affairs. In addition, I want to make clear that the proposed group is for an mp3 files only. And, whilst .indie posters are not especially fractious compared to some ng's, there is necessarily a limited tolerance for reggae, hip-hop, blues and gabba there, all of which the Peel shows championed. Finally, while a lot of music could reasonably be called avant- garde, there are enough sweet dumb pop tunes there to irritate purist hairshirt noise bores in absm.avantgarde, of which I am proud to be one. So: any binary genre-newsgroup will (not unreasonably) object to off-topic posts, and nearly all Peel radio show can be guaranteed to have multi genre material. Since the majority of archived shows tend to be undivided radio recordings of 1 or two hours, they need their own home. Plus, there are those of us who like more than one kind of music, although we are seldom seen. Like lemurs. The Charter I'm outlining and will further develop in relevant groups will welcome specifically these binaries, in suggested order of importance 1 radio shows 2 sessions 3 miscellaneous Peeliana 4 Peel-sponsored bands ** Can you help me? Yes please. I've never started a newsgroup. I don't know how to send newgroup control messages. I'd appreciate some help. I also realise that alt groups don't need to be formally approved, but I'm hoping that this is still the right place to get help, advice and plug the idea in any case. ** In Memoriam Lastly, Peel's name may not mean anything to many people, but as any trawl of Usenet right now will reveal, he meant a great deal to a large number of us. This idea has a very good chance of being both worthwhile and successful, I think. And anything that gets Peel material off ephemeral networks into one place on Usenet is simply a Good Thing. I would hope that this proposal is taken seriously, and anyone with anything to contribute will do so. Fire away. Thank you! sqdrldr 8<--------------------------------snip------------- Now then, alt.config are notoriously snappish, but you can read their helpful critiques (some helpful, some less so) at that group. Other ideas floating around and my 2p-worth: http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~djhc2/peellist.htm seems a bit labour intensive to flourish to me. To answer Gary's very reasonable quibble with a Usenet peel archive (impermanence/3 month retention at best) - that's the price you pay for having high-speed globally distributed files on a superstable protocol that even Outlook Express can handle. Simple is good, and Usenet is... simple. I suspect nobody wants to pay cash money for the bandwidth/potential legal hassle of hosting a colossal underground Peel archive, streamed or otherwise. love, sqdrldr From rockerq@... Mon Nov 1 22:05:00 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:05:00 EST Subject: [peel] More thoughts Message-ID: << Parsons is clearly betraying that he is one of those sheep. >> Sad and ironic, because he and Burchill really were at the forefront of punk in 1976 - 1977 - along with other NME writers like Paul Morley they widened "punk rock" from a few dodgy ex pub rockers with short haircuts, to create a full blown movement that included film-makers, fanzine writers / journalists, fashion designers, poets, not to mention a thousand Peel-championed bands (and he certainly did play the Clash) of all styles from Generation X to Steel Pulse to John Cooper-Clarke to Pere Ubu. Looking at the NME today, It's difficult to explain how important it was in those days in terms of the spread of ideas and politics - its circulation was ten times what it is today, and it actually wrote about stuff that mattered, rather than just acting as a shopfront for the major labels. Funny how they've both turned out to be such tossers! Rocker From newswire@... Mon Nov 1 23:20:41 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:20:41 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] More thoughts References: <18271476.1099319144308.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Message-ID: <4186B6B9.000001.42303@T3O2M9> I know John Played blue Moon of Kentucky more than once. This is my favourite Elvis track so I notice when it's played. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/01/04 14:34:19 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [peel] More thoughts Well he's obviously after a reaction. But he is certainly INCORRECT re. Elvis Presley: I can recall him playing Mystery Train, for example, and other Elvis I now forget. He played an Elvis song from a Russian pressed 78 once. George Forsyth From newswire@... Mon Nov 1 23:23:35 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:23:35 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Peeling Back The Years References: Message-ID: <4186B767.000003.42303@T3O2M9> I really hope the BBC re air that series John did about Protest music. I tihnk it went out in the Eighties. Oh and for the benefit of Tony Parsons he played aprince track on it! -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/01/04 19:20:18 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Peeling Back The Years I listened last night to Andy Kershaw's excellent tribute to Peel on Radio 3. Unless I'm mistaken, most of the clips of John in conversation were taken from a brief series of shows called Peeling Back The Years which were broadcast on Radio 1 on Saturday afternoons in the late eighties. The shows basically consisted of Peel chatting at some length to John Walters about his life, his career in radio and the music he loved. It really was fascinating stuff - does anyone else remember it? Anyway, if this series has indeed survived in the archives, one would hope that the BBC can air it again in full. From robfleay@... Mon Nov 1 23:28:41 2004 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 22:28:41 -0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts In-Reply-To: <4186B6B9.000001.42303@T3O2M9> Message-ID: <4186B899.18709.F79DB5@localhost> > I know John Played blue Moon of Kentucky more than once. > This is my > favourite Elvis track so I notice when it's played. I have a tape of a show where he plays Elvis ("Tear Your Playhouse Down") - and wasn't the Ronettes "Be My Baby" the last song he ever broadcast according to the playlists? From janb@... Mon Nov 1 23:39:44 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:39:44 -0000 Subject: [peel] More thoughts References: <4186B899.18709.F79DB5@localhost> Message-ID: <00ca01c4c063$af593190$2e90220a@...> On Monday, November 01, 2004 10:28 PM [GMT+1=CET], Robf wrote: >> I know John Played blue Moon of Kentucky more than once. >> This is my >> favourite Elvis track so I notice when it's played. > > I have a tape of a show where he plays Elvis ("Tear Your Playhouse > Down") - and wasn't the Ronettes "Be My Baby" the last song he ever > broadcast according to the playlists? Klute - Time 4 Change. The Ronettes was the Underworld show AFAICS. -- Jan From sqdrldr@... Tue Nov 2 09:59:11 2004 From: sqdrldr@... (sqdrldr) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:59:11 -0000 Subject: Peeling Back The Years In-Reply-To: <4186B767.000003.42303@T3O2M9> Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" wrote: > I really hope the BBC re air that series John did about Protest music. I > tihnk it went out in the Eighties. Someone has posted the last 2 epsiodes (5 & 6) of this show on alt.binaries.sounds.radio.bbc Well worth a listen! sqdrldr From martinw@... Tue Nov 2 10:12:29 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:12:29 -0000 Subject: Peel on Resonance Message-ID: <000a01c4c0bc$144976c0$88682a50@youroezpw20g0p> Last night ResonanceFM - the Internet radio station broadcast a short speech Peel made to a panel at the last Big Chill Festival as a tribute. It's well worth a listen especially his views on Radio 1 daytime djs I made a copy of it and for a short while it will be up at http://website.lineone.net/~martin_wheatley/Resonancepeel.mp3 If anyone wants to give it a permanent home feel free On Friday and Saturday night at 11PM Resonance are going to have 2 hardcore nights dedicated to Peel. Friday nigh t is headlined by DJ Rupture and Saturday by Shitmat Resonance can be found at http://www.resonancefm.com/ From martinw@... Tue Nov 2 13:13:34 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:13:34 +0000 Subject: Peel News Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041102121213.00c55fa8@...> According to the Radio Times Rob Da Bank is standing in for the next 4 weeks Audition maybe? Also there is a 90 minute Peel Tribute on BBC2 next Saturday martinw From newswire@... Tue Nov 2 14:48:06 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:48:06 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Peel News References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041102121213.00c55fa8@...> Message-ID: <41879016.000001.50081@T3O2M9> I could live with Rob. He doesn't have anywhere near the range that John had but maybe that was always unrealistic to look for. He wont play the same stuff that John played, but then at least he wont try to be a John Peel replacement. I have to admit that I'll be listening to Verity Sharp on Radio 3 around that time of night from now on. Actually that's one of the tihngs I hate most about John going. I dont feel like a Radio 1 listener anymore and that makes me feel old. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/02/04 12:23:14 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Cc: zapsmart@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Peel News According to the Radio Times Rob Da Bank is standing in for the next 4 weeks Audition maybe? From pitstain@... Tue Nov 2 17:46:23 2004 From: pitstain@... (David Jansen) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:46:23 -0800 Subject: [peel] Peel News In-Reply-To: <41879016.000001.50081@T3O2M9> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041102121213.00c55fa8@...> <41879016.000001.50081@T3O2M9> Message-ID: is it blasphemous (or something less extreme or religious) to say that Henry Rollins would make a wonderful host? he has a radio show in Los Angeles that i love to listen to. He has extremely broad tastes and is like a schoolkid when talking about the first time he heard whatever band/musician... here's a link to his playlists (newer ones have comments): http://indie1031.fm/harmonycurrent.html he's on monday nights 7-9pm PST and you can stream it via http://indie1031.fm/listenlive.html it's an incredible radio station... -david From newswire@... Tue Nov 2 23:18:10 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:18:10 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Peel News References: Message-ID: <418807A2.000001.16415@T3O2M9> Well it maybe I'm too close to John's age but I had already heard far too much of that playlist. I would expect to know only one or two - three tracks at the most - in a two hour Peel Show. There are quite a few people who play widely like Sean Rowley is very good on Radio London. In someways his show is similar to the playlist I've just read. It's just a bit too familiar if you're on a certain age. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/insideldn/radio/seanrowley_playlist_sat shtml -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/02/04 16:55:10 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel News is it blasphemous (or something less extreme or religious) to say that Henry Rollins would make a wonderful host? he has a radio show in Los Angeles that i love to listen to. He has extremely broad tastes and is like a schoolkid when talking about the first time he heard whatever band/musician... here's a link to his playlists (newer ones have comments): http://indie1031.fm/harmonycurrent.html he's on monday nights 7-9pm PST and you can stream it via http://indie1031.fm/listenlive.html it's an incredible radio station... From simon@... Tue Nov 2 19:44:35 2004 From: simon@... (simon b) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:44:35 +0000 Subject: Peeling Back The Years In-Reply-To: <1099397684.3789.1036.m23@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <3DE35300-2CFF-11D9-9F7E-0003939767C6@...> On peeling back the years: I've got the entire series on C90, from back when Radio One used to do that documentary hour on Saturday lunchtimes - I think they're down at my Dad's house; the format was basically Peel recounting his lifestory to walters though the music of each period. It used to be trailed with Peel and Walters dancing to an old tune... From martinw@... Wed Nov 3 02:06:44 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 01:06:44 +0000 Subject: Peel Show in the Immediate Future Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041103005937.01d03c70@...> Rob Da Bank says he is there for the next couple of months After that who knows Tonights suggests they are getting to try and keep the Peel show going as to the original as possible. I know that this week the records are programmed by people but the things that Rob is saying suggest they will try and keep it the same. There was a session tonight which I didn't expect and is clear that they are going to try to stick the previously decided schedule So tomorrow (Wednesday) is to have an Oxes session and Thursday will be a repeat of Carolyn Martin/Leanne Hall The Festive Fifty will happen and is starting next week Many sessions are booked for forthcoming weeks including Half Man, Half Biscuit and FSK And for those not listening because it's not Peel, Rob is a very good dj Give it a go martinw From cynicaldj@... Wed Nov 3 00:32:34 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:32:34 -0000 Subject: Echoes Of Mr. Peel? Message-ID: Dear All, In case you were thinking of throwing your radio's out of the nearest window after the sad passing away of Peel, how many of you actually tuned in tonight from 2300 hours to hear Rob Da Bank? To be fair, he comes across very much as a bloke who "has come along to play some records", no excitement, no trying to be John Peel. But what is very good, and much more important, is that according to Mr. Da Bank, ALL the Music in this weeks Programmes were pre-chosen by Mr. Peel, and boy even though it's sad that John isn't here to play them, it's very reassuring to know - and actually quite obvious when you listen to them. So, well done Mr. Da Bank, not an easy job and so far in my opinion, so far so good. Not Mr. Peel, I know, but then who else could be? http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ From moomin@... Tue Nov 2 18:14:01 2004 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:14:01 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel News In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041102121213.00c55fa8@...> <41879016.000001.50081@T3O2M9> Message-ID: In message , David Jansen writes >is it blasphemous (or something less extreme or religious) to say that >Henry Rollins would make a wonderful host? he has a radio show in Los >Angeles that i love to listen to. He has extremely broad tastes and is >like a schoolkid when talking about the first time he heard whatever >band/musician... > >here's a link to his playlists (newer ones have comments): >http://indie1031.fm/harmonycurrent.html He plays the Lurkers! I remember Peel played the Lurkers when they were as un-hip as it was possible for a punk band to be. And for good reason! (IMHO) -- simon smith From troche@... Tue Nov 2 22:17:20 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:17:20 -0500 Subject: Unheard BBCWS shows In-Reply-To: <1099279679.275.6779.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1099279679.275.6779.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Last week I wrote an e-mail to the BBC World Service "Popular Music Department" (yes that what it really is) before they had scheduled the BBCWS Peel Tribute show that had gone out this past Friday. In my letter I speculated that since John Peel would have been on vacation for a few more weeks, they probably had a few un aired shows on tape when he died. I asked that these shows not be withheld. Yesterday a replay came, as follows: ---------------- Hi Thanks for your e-mail. John's remaining programmes will be broadcast from this week in his usual slot. His family have requested they are aired. All The Best ALAN ROWETT Senior Producer : BBC World Service Room 101 Henry Wood House 3/6 Langham Place LONDON W1A 1AA Tel : 020 7765 3938 E-mail : alan.rowett@... ------------- Presently the tribute show is available until Friday at 0830UTC at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/ws_johnpeel.rpm. Then at that time the next new show will be played. Tom R From mozy@... Wed Nov 3 21:14:58 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 20:14:58 -0000 Subject: [peel] dry bones in the valley References: Message-ID: <001a01c4c1e1$cca36840$6fa7193e@User> andrew.parfitt@... ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: [peel] dry bones in the valley Like others I'm sure, I would like to get a copy of what was to be John's last programme for Radio 1. If anyone has copies of any of his last shows please let me/us know. Does anyone have a current address for Andy Parfitt? andy.parfitt@... bounces back. Yahoo! Groups Links From mozy@... Wed Nov 3 21:31:15 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 20:31:15 -0000 Subject: [peel] dry bones in the valley References: <001a01c4c1e1$cca36840$6fa7193e@User> Message-ID: <002a01c4c1e4$118f6150$6fa7193e@User> forget that. it just bounced back ----- Original Message ----- From: Maureen To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [peel] dry bones in the valley andrew.parfitt@bbc.co.uk ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: [peel] dry bones in the valley Like others I'm sure, I would like to get a copy of what was to be John's last programme for Radio 1. If anyone has copies of any of his last shows please let me/us know. Does anyone have a current address for Andy Parfitt? andy.parfitt@....uk bounces back. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From moomin@... Thu Nov 4 04:37:46 2004 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 03:37:46 +0000 Subject: [peel] The Prats In-Reply-To: <001a01c4c1e1$cca36840$6fa7193e@User> References: <001a01c4c1e1$cca36840$6fa7193e@User> Message-ID: Anyone remember The Prats? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/3979501.stm Peel was crazy about them for a short time, comparing them to Captain Beefheart. I believe they were about 14 at the time. He went off them after they became too professional, or something like that. -- simon smith From troche@... Thu Nov 4 04:29:11 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:29:11 -0500 Subject: Whiny Thumbsucker Dissents in - where else - The FT Message-ID: Is this guy next Julie Burchill? There have only been a few anti-Peel articles over the years, and just one or two this week, but they all seem to pounce on how at some point he modified his accent... which to my endless amusement appears to be a near-capitol offence in the UK, is it not...? Obviously the article which follows is so clueless it is - to me - more amusing than upsetting. Tom R Atlanta ARTS & IDEAS RADIO. It's only pop music, guys, not Beethoven: By MARTIN HOYLE 550 words 1 November 2004 Financial Times London Ed1 Page 15 English (c) 2004 The Financial Times Limited. All rights reserved The Princess Diana syndrome was in evidence last week. Insomniacs surfing the dial on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning could be excused for thinking that the world had lost an international peacemaker or the curer of Aids. The voice of John Peel was heard throughout the land, in a subtly varying range of accents. In a Front Row devoted entirely to the sexagenarian DJ, Andy Kershaw unwittingly put his finger on why some of us remained impervious to the Peel spell. The former John Ravenscroft from the Wirral had first pretended to be a down-home Scouser when in Beatles-fancying America, but his whole life had been an attempt to deny middle-class roots and public-school education. Possibly admirable (and doubtless necessary), it explained the clash between northern drone and talking proper that the night's nostalgic sampling threw up. It was strange, too, to recall the inconsistency in Peel's initial attitude to what he once termed Middle England and his acquiescence in ultimately being taken to its bosom in Radio 4's Home Truths. On various wavelengths the superlatives about the most important figure in British music in the past 40 years came thick and fast. Gambaccini, Holland, Albarn - colleagues and proteges, mediafolk and musicians - paid tribute. With all due regret for a notable broadcaster and much-loved individual, am I alone in finding the reaction OTT? Peel's innate rebelliousness caused him to pioneer lesser-known areas of music and unknown artists, but he could sound like self-parody. At worst there were moments for Pseuds' Corner. And the self-importance of the pop and rock world as it emerged over those few hours was suffocating, ludicrous and sinister. This is pop music, guys, an industry aiming ephemeral products at impulse buyers with instant gratification in mind. Beethoven's late quartets it ain't. Plumbing the mysteries of human existence, delving into the recesses of the human heart, assessing man's place in the universe: none of these are its business nor should they be. It's not created to be revived and reinterpreted over the centuries. It's not Bach, "A Groovy Kind of Love" and "A Lovers' Concerto" notwithstanding. Loading it with such portentousness merely emphasises how eagerly we scuttle towards the easy, the glib, the populist and anything lending itself to pseudo-sociological and quasi-artistic generalisations. All we needed was Christopher Frayling to announce a memorial in Hyde Park. As it was, a grieving statement from Tony Blair, in tones indistinguishable from those used when speaking of war casualties, set the perfect seal on the whole sad event. Peel was an influential broadcaster who formed the taste of many music fans and helped some unknown performers to recognition. He was good at his job. Let's not make his memory, his undoubted professionalism, tacky with hyperbole. Even now, I'm sure, Front Row is preparing for Mozart's 250th birthday in 15 months' time. Three minutes of stilted questions to an obscure academic from a carefully primed presenter reading from a cribsheet, stumbling over the foreign words and alien names? You can bet that there will be no word from Downing Street. Martin Hoyle From morriso@... Thu Nov 4 09:34:17 2004 From: morriso@... (ANDREW MORRISON) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:34:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Whiny Thumbsucker Dissents in - where else - The FT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041104083417.85155.qmail@...> No, but he was once married to her. Enough said, really. Andy Tom Roche wrote: Is this guy the next Julie Burchill? Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: www.TrustNoOne.org.uk From janb@... Thu Nov 4 11:27:18 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:27:18 -0000 Subject: [peel] The Prats References: <001a01c4c1e1$cca36840$6fa7193e@User> Message-ID: <008701c4c258$dc4d4aa0$2e90220a@...> On Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:37 AM [GMT+1=CET], simon smith wrote: > Anyone remember The Prats? > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/3979501.stm There was a piece on this on the Channel 4 News a week or so ago, with an interview with the lead singer and shots of him meeting Jonathan *Demme* (above article spelling it Denny). -- Jan From npu65@... Thu Nov 4 09:41:53 2004 From: npu65@... (Nigel U) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:41:53 -0000 Subject: [peel] Whiny Thumbsucker Dissents in - where else - The FT References: <20041104083417.85155.qmail@...> Message-ID: <015101c4c24a$22de02c0$a3832652@yourcmnwt84cv8> Tell me they didn't have children. Please. N ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW MORRISON To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [peel] Whiny Thumbsucker Dissents in - where else - The FT No, but he was once married to her. Enough said, really. Andy Tom Roche wrote: Is this guy the next Julie Burchill? Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@btinternet.com Website: www.TrustNoOne.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From d.mckinnon@... Thu Nov 4 16:10:47 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:10:47 -0000 Subject: Peel's send-off Message-ID: "Fans of legendary DJ John Peel will be able to pay their final respects as he is laid to rest near his home in Suffolk next week. The funeral is to be held at St Edmundsbury Cathedral, in Bury St Edmunds, on Friday 12 November. The ceremony will be followed by a private service for family and friends of the late DJ." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3982631.stm dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From dbarrell@... Thu Nov 4 17:28:27 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:28:27 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's send-off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <418A58AB.7070809@...> It omitted the time: It's at 1pm. McKINNON Dougal wrote: > "*Fans of legendary DJ John Peel will be able to pay their final > respects as he is laid to rest near his home in Suffolk next week. * > > The funeral is to be held at St Edmundsbury Cathedral, in Bury St > Edmunds, on Friday 12 November. > > The ceremony will be followed by a private service for family and > friends of the late DJ." > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3982631.stm > > > dougal mckinnon > E-mail: d.mckinnon@... > > The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for > the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on > it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and > any attachment from your computer. > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service . > > -- Daniel Barrell EMBL - The EBI Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SD Phone: +44 (0)1223 492551 Email: dbarrell@... From robstrong@... Thu Nov 4 17:43:23 2004 From: robstrong@... (Rob Strong) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:43:23 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's send-off References: Message-ID: <00a201c4c28d$f97b4840$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> and why would anyone other than his close family and friends be even considering attending? sheesh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKINNON Dougal" To: Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:10 PM Subject: [peel] Peel's send-off > "Fans of legendary DJ John Peel will be able to pay their final respects > as he is laid to rest near his home in Suffolk next week. > > The funeral is to be held at St Edmundsbury Cathedral, in Bury St > Edmunds, on Friday 12 November. > > > The ceremony will be followed by a private service for family and > friends of the late DJ." > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3982631.stm > > > dougal mckinnon > E-mail: d.mckinnon@... > > The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for > the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on > it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and > any attachment from your computer. > From ajcauk@... Thu Nov 4 18:59:45 2004 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:59:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Peel's send-off In-Reply-To: <00a201c4c28d$f97b4840$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20041104175945.39437.qmail@...> i avoid funerals wherever possible myself but i was considering it a for a moment and i think i can see y some might want to go but it would be horrible if it was a zoo burchill is married to peter paphides now who writes for the times as well . he's quite amusing and she i wouldnt know cos i cant get past the first paragraph. they do have kids and they feature in his column; philosophising on potty training that kind of thing i thought this weeks jp shows were ok. they seem to struggling with old technology which seemed entirely apt on monday and tuesday night flew by cos i am in the process of loading up on a new laptop; i think i outdid them on the cussing stakes. ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From rockerq@... Thu Nov 4 20:39:25 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:39:25 EST Subject: [peel] Peel's send-off Message-ID: << they do have kids and they feature in his column; philosophising on potty training that kind of thing >> Sound like ideal presenters for "Home Truths" then! Rocker From vollmann1969@... Thu Nov 4 21:30:03 2004 From: vollmann1969@... (vollmann1969) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:30:03 -0000 Subject: The Prats In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, simon smith wrote: > > Anyone remember The Prats? > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/3979501.stm > > Peel was crazy about them for a short time, comparing them to Captain > Beefheart. I believe they were about 14 at the time. He went off them > after they became too professional, or something like that. > > -- > simon smith I used to be the proud owner of a fine mini-album featuring The Prats, The Blank Students and a band called Graph who did an absolutely fantastic song called 'Drowning' ... Think I took it to a party somewhere in 1988 and that was the last i saw of it! If anyone has a spare copy they don't want, please let me know! From robstrong@... Thu Nov 4 21:38:35 2004 From: robstrong@... (Rob Strong) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:38:35 -0000 Subject: Fw: Peel's send-off Message-ID: <001f01c4c2ae$52fc9700$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> i think this was intended for the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "iwasdamosuzuki" To: "Rob Strong" Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Peel's send-off > > The BBC article it's linked from is entitled "Public farewell for DJ > John Peel", which suggests that they're anticipating - even welcoming? > - attendance from those other than close family and friends, for whom > there will be a separate service. As soon as I saw it, I assumed I > would go, to pay my respects. I'm not immediately sure why there would > be anything wrong with that. There are lots of different ways of doing > a funeral. Obviously, if there was any suggestion at all that the > family didn't want that then things would be differentt. > > Incidentally, I've not said a good word about the NME in many years, > but I thought they did him proud this week. And I was genuinely moved > by the full page BBC ad. > > Dan > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Strong" wrote: > > and why would anyone other than his close family and friends be even > > considering attending? sheesh. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "McKINNON Dougal" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:10 PM > > Subject: [peel] Peel's send-off > > > > > > > "Fans of legendary DJ John Peel will be able to pay their final > respects > > > as he is laid to rest near his home in Suffolk next week. > > > > > > The funeral is to be held at St Edmundsbury Cathedral, in Bury St > > > Edmunds, on Friday 12 November. > > > > > > > > > The ceremony will be followed by a private service for family and > > > friends of the late DJ." > > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3982631.stm > > > > > > > > > dougal mckinnon > > > E-mail: d.mckinnon@s... > > > > > > The information in this email is confidential and is intended > solely for > > > the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is > unauthorised. > > > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > > > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in > reliance on > > > it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is > prohibited > > > and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the > message and > > > any attachment from your computer. > > > > > From stuart@... Fri Nov 5 15:09:57 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:09:57 +0000 Subject: The Prats In-Reply-To: <1099661900.274.36379.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1099661900.274.36379.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: >I used to be the proud owner of a fine mini-album featuring The >Prats, The Blank Students and a band called Graph who did an >absolutely fantastic song called 'Drowning' ... Think I took it to a >party somewhere in 1988 and that was the last i saw of it! >If anyone has a spare copy they don't want, please let me know! earcom 1 - released by Fast Product of Edinburgh. One of Graph actually joined the Human league,along with Jo Callis from the Rezillos, at the same time that Marsh and Ware left. the secret track on earcom 1 is a version of 'Good Sculptures.' Earcom 2 had to Joy Division tracks on it while #2 had DAF. I'm full of useless info today, but sadly can't tell you where to find another copy! Stuart -- From mozy@... Sat Nov 6 16:46:39 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 15:46:39 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: The Prats References: Message-ID: <001101c4c417$ceb5cf50$e99e193e@User> I used to be the proud owner of a fine mini-album featuring The Prats, The Blank Students and a band called Graph who did an absolutely fantastic song called 'Drowning' ... Think I took it to a party somewhere in 1988 and that was the last i saw of it! If anyone has a spare copy they don't want, please let me know! I have one! From parkrow1@... Sat Nov 6 21:55:39 2004 From: parkrow1@... (Michael Gilham) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 12:55:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: missing a piece ... In-Reply-To: <1099728951.228.8828.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20041106205539.28631.qmail@...> > earcom 1 - released by Fast Product of Edinburgh. One of Graph > actually joined the Human league,along with Jo Callis from the > Rezillos, at the same time that Marsh and Ware left. the secret > track on earcom 1 is a version of 'Good Sculptures.' Earcom 2 had to > Joy Division tracks on it while #2 had DAF. > I'm full of useless info today, but sadly can't tell you where to > find another copy! Sorry, I've missed something: what is this about specifically i.e. what group/people [Graph?]? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com From alan@... Sat Nov 6 21:59:51 2004 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:59:51 -0000 Subject: Poignant Moment Message-ID: <000e01c4c443$9fa28e20$50f286d9@pb1996> I was sorting out some old tapes today and found an unmarked C90. It turned out to be a Peel show from 1999, featuring The Woodbines in sesson. Towards the end of the show he announces "Here's one for the Pig" and plays the Otis Redding song "Let Nothing Separate Us". I'll let nothing separate us I'll let nothing, no, no, separate us What you ask me, to do or say I'll tell you everything, lord, is okay And I'll let nothing separate us I'll let nothing, no, no, no, worry or trouble your mind When this whole world, comes to an end I'll be standing there Holding your trembling hand I won't let nothing separate us, oh now .... Honey, when this whole world comes to an end I'll be standing there holding your tremblin' hand And I won't let nothing, no, no, separate us Nothing in the world I won't let nobody, nothing, touch you I won't let nobody, nothing, just say anything And I'll just be right with you baby Darling 'till the end At the end John says "Why do those things always make me cry?" Me too. Cheers Alan PS Channel 4 are showing Sound Of The Suburbs on Tuesday night. Their web-site says "OXFORD - Another chance to see a classic episode of the series in which the late, great DJ journeyed through the suburbs and satellite towns of Britain, examining the landscapes and social conditions that gave birth to so many world-influencing musical and youth movements." Sounds like it's going to be just one episode, not the whole series. PPS Can't remember many "world-influencing musical and youth movements" from Oxford. From cynicaldj@... Sun Nov 7 04:31:38 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 03:31:38 -0000 Subject: Peel's Last Day. Message-ID: People, As you are probably aware, our best New Music friend whom most of us here never met has his Funeral next Friday at 1300 hours at St. Edmunsbury Cathedral, Bury St. Edmonds, Suffolk. How many people from this Group are intending to go? I ask because it maybe useful to meet up so we can cry on each others shoulders. As a devoted Listener, I feel it is my duty to attend as it is my/our last chance to say "Goodnight" to the great man. Let me know how you feel. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM From stuart@... Sun Nov 7 11:11:31 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 10:11:31 +0000 Subject: missing a piece ... In-Reply-To: <1099813463.239.80027.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1099813463.239.80027.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: > > earcom 1 - released by Fast Product of Edinburgh. One of Graph >> actually joined the Human league,along with Jo Callis from the >> Rezillos, at the same time that Marsh and Ware left. the secret >> track on earcom 1 is a version of 'Good Sculptures.' Earcom 2 had to >> Joy Division tracks on it while #2 had DAF. >> I'm full of useless info today, but sadly can't tell you where to >> find another copy! > >Sorry, I've missed something: what is this about specifically i.e. what >group/people [Graph?]? it started off about the Prats, as they have a song on the soundtrack of The Marchurian Candidate, but has veered off on a tangent due to their initial release being on Fast's earcom 1, which also featured Graph (and others). S -- From vollmann1969@... Sun Nov 7 20:40:55 2004 From: vollmann1969@... (vollmann1969) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:40:55 -0000 Subject: The Prats In-Reply-To: <001101c4c417$ceb5cf50$e99e193e@User> Message-ID: You didn't get your copy in 1988 from a party down the Lower Bristol Road in Bath (then Avon)did you?!!? ... if so, it's mine !! :-) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Maureen" wrote: > > I used to be the proud owner of a fine mini-album featuring The > Prats, The Blank Students and a band called Graph who did an > absolutely fantastic song called 'Drowning' ... Think I took it to a > party somewhere in 1988 and that was the last i saw of it! > If anyone has a spare copy they don't want, please let me know! > > > > I have one! From john.bravin@... Sun Nov 7 22:50:11 2004 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:50:11 +0100 Subject: Peel show rebroadcast on Durtch radio References: Message-ID: <000801c4c513$c2871660$0100a8c0@...> For a few days you can listen again to a John Peel show broadcast on a Dutch radio station VPRO on 29 January1986. In the 80's John did a weekly show live in Holland (not a recorded broadcast as for the Finish and German shows) and championed a few unknown Dutch bands. The show starts with a Dutch presenter giving an introduction but the rest of the show is Peel speaking in English. "For a few years he would come over to Holland every three weeks. He would do one show live, and record two. Afterwards, he'd stay at my place. He was a very strict vegetarian. If he had to go to the toilet in the middle of the night, he would run through the kitchen. That's where the cat food was. He found the smell so repulsive he would run away from it even in the dead of night." (Jan Donkers, VPRO) http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp?maps=18952855&programs=19016843&episodes=19016875 The first show is followed by two other hour long shows presented by Luc Janssen playing some Peel type music. And if you feel like experimenting try the Webradio Tab - there are VPRO shows playing house, broken-beat, UK-garage, techno, breakbeat, drum 'n bass, punk, metal, roots, Americana and experimental. Anyone know of a link to the Finnish station? John Bravin From d.mckinnon@... Mon Nov 8 14:47:48 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:47:48 -0000 Subject: Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future" Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3992703.stm dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From robfleay@... Mon Nov 8 15:22:12 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:22:12 +0000 Subject: [peel] Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future" Message-ID: <20041108142238.NMOM25095.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.162.61]> what's the concensus? I listened in a couple of times cos he's playing peel's playlists, but I just got a bit sad. Not helped by the constant references to "the big man/main man/man himself" - I wish he'd stop that! I suppose time will tell once he starts having to sort his own playlist ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From d.mckinnon@... Mon Nov 8 15:32:54 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:32:54 -0000 Subject: [peel] Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future" Message-ID: > I suppose time will tell once he starts having to sort his own playlist That's pretty much my opinion. I don't think he's done too badly so far, but he's playing stuff that was chosen for him. He's also handicapped by possibly the worst showbiz name ever. Last week, someone requested Big Flame and he promised to include them as soon as he could. If he does he will go up immeasurably in my opinion. The show is obviously in a transitional period and only time will tell what happens to the slot. It WILL change and it will never be the same again. But at the moment I think RDB is a far better option than, say, Zane Lowe dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From newswire@... Mon Nov 8 15:35:28 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:35:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future" References: Message-ID: <418F8430.000001.06591@T3O2M9> I suppose it's a good choice. Rob has done a good job in the preprogrammed slots. He has a decent manner. Lets hope his taste broadens as he goes through all those piles of new recordings. I really think he's a much better choice than most of the in house alternatives. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/08/04 14:04:13 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From troche@... Mon Nov 8 23:53:52 2004 From: troche@... (troche@...) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:53:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Peel's Last Day Message-ID: <29775418.1099954432665.JavaMail.root@...> -----Original Message----- Subject: Peel's Last Day. >How many people from this Group are intending to go? I ask because it >maybe useful to meet up so we can cry on each others shoulders. > >As a devoted Listener, I feel it is my duty to attend as it is my/our >last chance to say "Goodnight" to the great man. I feel the same way. And for me it is last minute, costly, and quite a journey, but I have decided to attend. All the way from Atlanta. The last minute fares I looked up were well over a thousand. But I rolled the dice today on one of those fare/bidding sites and said how about $300. I was ready for them to say get lost, but way unexpectedly they said OK. I have to fly to Chicago first Wednesday afternoon, then into Heathrow by 8AM Thursday. After that I have no idea what happens. I'll get up to Bury St Edmonds somehow, stay somewhere. So, kind strangers, who IS going? Is there any one I could hitch a ride with? Maybe someone who already lives in the general East Anglia reigion... somewhere i could journey to on Thursday avoiding the nutty nutty London hotel prices? I'm a nice enough Yank I suppose, always wear a shirt, and didn't vote for Bush. Who'll have me? You can message the group or myself directly at troche circle-a mindspring.com tom in atlanta From cynicaldj@... Tue Nov 9 03:05:06 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 02:05:06 -0000 Subject: Peel's Last Day In-Reply-To: <29775418.1099954432665.JavaMail.root@...> Message-ID: Hello Tom, I don't think John would have expected you to take on such a massive journey on his behalf, though I am sure he would have appreciated it. Firstly, I wouldn't advise anyone to do what I am going to have to do - and that's drive! Unfortunately, circumstances have prevailed against me and I have a Hospital appointment, currently booked for 1010 hours the same day! I am going to try my level best to get it re-scheduled tomorrow to another date close by, but I don't hold out much hope; otherwise Tom I would have given you a lift, and it's a four hour round trip for me too, coming from Kent, U.K. I would strongly recommend the Train - no traffic jams that way - so all I can do is post this link to you: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/planmyjourney/time_table/journey_require ments.asp?&T2ID=7867_200411914856 (You will have to Cut/Copy and Paste this into your Address Bar otherwise the Link won't work). It is Network Rail's Journey Planner so you can punch in where you going to and from and the times of the journey, it should do all the rest. If it helps, you ideally need to get to London's Liverpool Street Railway Station from Heathrow, which you can use the London Underground for - but you can find that out from the planner, in case you decide on a different route! Can anyone else who is going from the Group, please say so, it would be nice to get together and meet - I'm sure John would have appreciated that too! --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, troche@m... wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: Peel's Last Day. > > >How many people from this Group are intending to go? I ask because it > >maybe useful to meet up so we can cry on each others shoulders. > > > >As a devoted Listener, I feel it is my duty to attend as it is my/our > >last chance to say "Goodnight" to the great man. > > > > > I feel the same way. And for me it is last minute, costly, and quite a journey, but I have decided to attend. All the way from Atlanta. The last minute fares I looked up were well over a thousand. But I rolled the dice today on one of those fare/bidding sites and said how about $300. > > I was ready for them to say get lost, but way unexpectedly they said OK. I have to fly to Chicago first Wednesday afternoon, then into Heathrow by 8AM Thursday. After that I have no idea what happens. I'll get up to Bury St Edmonds somehow, stay somewhere. > > So, kind strangers, who IS going? Is there any one I could hitch a ride with? Maybe someone who already lives in the general East Anglia reigion... somewhere i could journey to on Thursday avoiding the nutty nutty London hotel prices? I'm a nice enough Yank I suppose, always wear a shirt, and didn't vote for Bush. Who'll have me? > > You can message the group or myself directly at troche circle-a mindspring.com > > > tom in atlanta From robear572001@... Tue Nov 9 06:58:46 2004 From: robear572001@... (robear572001) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:58:46 -0000 Subject: looking for 1960's & '70's John Peel radioshow recordings Message-ID: Hello. I recently joined this group and I've been enjoying reading everyone's postings. I've been a fan of the late John Peel for many years and I've been collecting aircheck recordings of his shows to help keep the memories alive. If anyone on the list has any old tape recordings they made of any of Peel's radioshows back in the 1960's or '70's on Radio London or the BBC ("the perfumed garden", "top gear", "nightride" or any of his other radioshows from that period), please email me directly and I can email you a list of shows I have available for trade and we can set up a trade. Thanks. Bob email: robear572001@... From willowct@... Tue Nov 9 11:47:48 2004 From: willowct@... (Willow Colios-Terry) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:47:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Dutch Radio show In-Reply-To: <1099945583.305.51292.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20041109104748.17636.qmail@...> this show is great 1986 - i was 4 and living in Reading. what are the chances of me ever hearing this? lots of great stuff - the second wedding present single, a report on half man half biscuits first gig outside liverpool. is there any way of recording it? cheers Willow http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp?maps=18952855&programs=19016843&episodes=19016875 ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From robert.ayres@... Tue Nov 9 12:54:36 2004 From: robert.ayres@... (Robert Ayres) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:54:36 -0000 Subject: Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future References: <1099945583.305.51292.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <001301c4c652$e30b4100$6fb7fea9@technomadik> I would like to see Hermeat (probably wrong spelling, Peel Show programme assistant) and Liz (producer) kept on because I have the impression that they understood quite well John Peel's selection tastes and policy - sure he is irreplaceable but John certainly played quite a few tunes selected by Hermeat. I remember a few years ago when John's son (Tom?) was an occasional 'guest' on the show and John seemed to be encouraging him to become his sidekick but Tom was too shy to say very much, but perhaps that's my faulty memory! Robert > From: "Mark" > Subject: Re: Rob Da Bank to fill Peel slot "for forseeable future" > > I suppose it's a good choice. Rob has done a good job From esinclai@... Tue Nov 9 13:26:57 2004 From: esinclai@... (Eric Sinclair) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:26:57 -0600 Subject: [peel] Dutch Radio show In-Reply-To: <20041109104748.17636.qmail@...> References: <20041109104748.17636.qmail@...> Message-ID: On Nov 9, 2004, at 4:47 AM, Willow Colios-Terry wrote: > is there any way of recording it? All you need is some application to redirect the Real audio stream and encode it. There's a number of these out there; in the MacOS world Audio Hijack can do it, as can the one-piece-browser/encode iRecordMusic. I used the latter to record it down to AAC. On the PC, I believe the application "Replay Radio" may do what you want. > http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp? > maps=18952855&programs=19016843&episodes=19016875 > Does anyone know if other years are likely to be released from 'der DJ des DJs"? -Eric -- esinclai@... aim: esinclai http://www.kittyjoyce.com/eric/log/ From dbarrell@... Tue Nov 9 14:04:47 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:04:47 +0000 Subject: [peel] Dutch Radio show In-Reply-To: References: <20041109104748.17636.qmail@...> Message-ID: <4190C06F.2030307@...> Also, free and available for Window, MacOSX and Linux/Unix is Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Just click 'record' whilst listening to anything that you can hear through your sound card, then export to mp3/wav etc. Nice bit of kit. Eric Sinclair wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2004, at 4:47 AM, Willow Colios-Terry wrote: > >> is there any way of recording it? > > > All you need is some application to redirect the Real audio stream and > encode it. There's a number of these out there; in the MacOS world > Audio Hijack can do it, as can the one-piece-browser/encode > iRecordMusic. I used the latter to record it down to AAC. > > On the PC, I believe the application "Replay Radio" may do what you > want. > > >>http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp? >>maps=18952855&programs=19016843&episodes=19016875 >> > > > Does anyone know if other years are likely to be released from 'der DJ > des DJs"? > > -Eric -- Daniel Barrell EMBL - The EBI Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SD Phone: +44 (0)1223 492551 Email: dbarrell@... From mar.celle@... Tue Nov 9 14:42:37 2004 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:42:37 +0100 Subject: Dutch radio show and The Prats Message-ID: <001201c4c661$fa97db80$cc1079c3@3> Dear all. I'm too sad to go to his funeral, I must admit, in tears all the time. Anyway, I'm a woman from Amsterdam and have recorded the repeat of the VPRO-show from 1986 so if Willowz wants a copy, on md or cd, please get in touch; I've got far more recordings from Peel/VPRO from that era (1984-1986) anyway; i recorded it every week.... Plus on The Prats: I can't find them now, but I'm sure I've got two 7-inches from them I bought at the time, one of them was called Disco Pope or something. If anyone is interested I'll dig deeper in my thousands of singles.... take care everyone! love Marcelle From mozy@... Tue Nov 9 19:11:09 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 18:11:09 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: The Prats References: Message-ID: <003201c4c687$7dc89b00$0d9e193e@User> I wondered where I was in 1988 ... You didn't get your copy in 1988 from a party down the Lower Bristol Road in Bath (then Avon)did you?!!? ... if so, it's mine !! :-) --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Maureen" wrote: > > I used to be the proud owner of a fine mini-album featuring The > Prats, The Blank Students and a band called Graph who did an > absolutely fantastic song called 'Drowning' ... Think I took it to a > party somewhere in 1988 and that was the last i saw of it! > If anyone has a spare copy they don't want, please let me know! > > > > I have one! Yahoo! Groups Links From sete.colinas@... Tue Nov 9 21:34:58 2004 From: sete.colinas@... (Leo Gilbert) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 20:34:58 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Last Day In-Reply-To: <29775418.1099954432665.JavaMail.root@...> References: <29775418.1099954432665.JavaMail.root@...> Message-ID: I'll be going, travelling up from London on Friday morning. I can't offer Tom a lift, though, as I'm biking it and don't have a helmet to spare. It's bound to be a very sad day, but it would be good to get together and swap Peel stories. Leo On 8 Nov 2004, at 22:53, troche@... wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: Peel's Last Day. > > >How many people from this Group are intending to go? I ask because it > >maybe useful to meet up so we can cry on each others shoulders. > > > >As a devoted Listener, I feel it is my duty to attend as it is my/our > >last chance to say "Goodnight" to the great man. > > > > > I feel the same way. And for me it is last minute, costly, and quite > a journey, but I have decided to attend. All the way from Atlanta. The > last minute fares I looked up were well over a thousand. But I rolled > the dice today on one of those fare/bidding sites and said how about > $300. > > I was ready for them to say get lost, but way unexpectedly they said > OK. I have to fly to Chicago first Wednesday afternoon, then into > Heathrow by 8AM Thursday. After that I have no idea what happens. I'll > get up to Bury St Edmonds somehow, stay somewhere. > > So, kind strangers, who IS going? Is there any one I could hitch a > ride with? Maybe someone who already lives in the general East Anglia > reigion... somewhere i could journey to on Thursday avoiding the nutty > nutty London hotel prices? I'm a nice enough Yank I suppose, always > wear a shirt, and didn't vote for Bush. Who'll have me? > > You can message the group or myself directly at troche circle-a > mindspring.com > > > tom in atlanta > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <122603_LREC_bkup_BR_Ashanti.jpg> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ >   > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2643 bytes Desc: not available URL: From iaparkin@... Tue Nov 9 23:27:16 2004 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 22:27:16 -0000 Subject: Dutch Radio show In-Reply-To: <4190C06F.2030307@...> Message-ID: > Just click 'record' whilst listening to anything that you can hear > through your sound card, then export to mp3/wav etc. Nice bit of kit. Some tools allow you to download the stream in faster than real time. This means you can download a 1 hour show in a few minutes, rather than a full hour, which is nice if you have problems with the stream. A couple that I am aware of are Streambox and Offline Explorer. The demo version of Offline Explorer that will allow you to download and save this show. With these You just have to find the rstp URI and you are all set. Somethimg along the lines of, err, well, rtsp://streams.vpro.nl/pac01/19639848/surestream.rm in this case. Each hour downloads as a realmedia file of approx 41MB. IAP From esinclai@... Wed Nov 10 02:06:54 2004 From: esinclai@... (Eric Sinclair) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:06:54 -0600 Subject: Recording Streams (was: Re: [peel] Dutch Radio show) In-Reply-To: <4190C06F.2030307@...> References: <20041109104748.17636.qmail@...> <4190C06F.2030307@...> Message-ID: Audacity is a good app for a lot of things, including this - and the price is right; the distinction is that at least the two tools I mention can grab audio from a particular application (so any mail / im / etc) sounds wouldn't get inserted into the output file. Audacity would more easily, however, allow you to trim or slice tracks up. -e On Nov 9, 2004, at 7:04 AM, Daniel Barrell wrote: > Also, free and available for Window, MacOSX and Linux/Unix is Audacity: > > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ > > Just click 'record' whilst listening to anything that you can hear > through your sound card, then export to mp3/wav etc.  Nice bit of kit. > > Eric Sinclair wrote: > > > > On Nov 9, 2004, at 4:47 AM, Willow Colios-Terry wrote: > > > >> is there any way of recording it? > > > > > > All you need is some application to redirect the Real audio stream > and  > > encode it.  There's a number of these out there; in the MacOS world  > > Audio Hijack can do it, as can the one-piece-browser/encode  > > iRecordMusic.  I used the latter to record it down to AAC. > > > > On the PC, I believe the application "Replay Radio" may do what you  > > want. > > > > > >>http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp? > >>maps=18952855&programs=19016843&episodes=19016875 > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know if other years are likely to be released from 'der > DJ  > > des DJs"? > > > > -Eric > > -- > > Daniel Barrell > EMBL - The EBI > Wellcome Trust Genome Campus > Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SD > Phone: +44 (0)1223 492551 > Email: dbarrell@... > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Get unlimited calls to > > U.S./Canada > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ >   > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > -- esinclai@... aim: esinclai http://www.kittyjoyce.com/eric/log/ From dbarrell@... Wed Nov 10 10:09:06 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:09:06 +0000 Subject: Recording Streams In-Reply-To: References: <20041109104748.17636.qmail@...> <4190C06F.2030307@...> Message-ID: <4191DAB2.5040200@...> You're right! On last year's Festive Fifty, during the Darkness remix I've got some American bloke telling me 'The National Library of Medicine' VERY loudly! I Happened to open a powerpoint presentation with speech whilst I was recording it! Maybe it's time I switched... Eric Sinclair wrote: > Audacity is a good app for a lot of things, including this - and the > price is right; the distinction is that at least the two tools I > mention can grab audio from a particular application (so any mail / im > / etc) sounds wouldn't get inserted into the output file. > > Audacity would more easily, however, allow you to trim or slice tracks > up. > > -e > > On Nov 9, 2004, at 7:04 AM, Daniel Barrell wrote: > > >>Also, free and available for Window, MacOSX and Linux/Unix is Audacity: >> >>http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ >> >> Just click 'record' whilst listening to anything that you can hear >> through your sound card, then export to mp3/wav etc. Nice bit of kit. >> >> Eric Sinclair wrote: >> > >> > On Nov 9, 2004, at 4:47 AM, Willow Colios-Terry wrote: >> > >> >> is there any way of recording it? >> > >> > >> > All you need is some application to redirect the Real audio stream >>and >> > encode it. There's a number of these out there; in the MacOS world >> > Audio Hijack can do it, as can the one-piece-browser/encode >> > iRecordMusic. I used the latter to record it down to AAC. >> > >> > On the PC, I believe the application "Replay Radio" may do what you >> > want. >> > >> > >> >>http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/maps/programs/episodes/index.jsp? >> >>maps=18952855&programs=19016843&episodes=19016875 >> >> >> > >> > >> > Does anyone know if other years are likely to be released from 'der >>DJ >> > des DJs"? >> > >> > -Eric >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >> >> >> >>Get unlimited calls to >> >>U.S./Canada >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> � To visit your group on the web, go to: >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ >> >> � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >>Service. >> >> From dbarrell@... Wed Nov 10 10:26:10 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:26:10 +0000 Subject: The Fall's 25th Message-ID: <4191DEB2.4000901@...> Last night I was re-listening to the Fall's 24th session, from August. Coincidentally I also picked up In Session Tonight to have a bit of a read. In John's preface he says he already has a 'pretty little speech' ready for the Fall's 25th - he wrote this back in '93/'92. I guess there's no chance of Ken Garner (or anyone else for that matter) knowing what it was? From willowct@... Wed Nov 10 16:24:16 2004 From: willowct@... (Willow Colios-Terry) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:24:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Teenage Kicks In-Reply-To: <1100095116.371.54377.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20041110152416.25746.qmail@...> I just saw a picture http://www.zintek.net/images/avatar.jpg of John with 'Are teenage dreams so hard to beat' on it. This isn't right is it. it's just a slight 'ugh' sound at the begining of the song. ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Win 10k with Yahoo! Mail to help furnish your new pad in style. Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com From janb@... Wed Nov 10 16:52:30 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:52:30 -0000 Subject: [peel] Teenage Kicks References: <20041110152416.25746.qmail@...> Message-ID: <008e01c4c73d$498741f0$2e90220a@...> On Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:24 PM [GMT+1=CET], Willow Colios-Terry wrote: > I just saw a picture > http://www.zintek.net/images/avatar.jpg > of John with 'Are teenage dreams so hard to beat' on > it. > This isn't right is it. it's just a slight 'ugh' sound > at the begining of the song. All the sources I've looked at give it as, 'Are teenage dreams so hard to beat?' -- Jan From mar.celle@... Wed Nov 10 21:22:48 2004 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:48 +0100 Subject: Funeral Message-ID: <002401c4c763$0c5b0d40$791379c3@3> Dear all. I said I'm too sad to go to the funeral, but now I will go. Through a friend and peels family I'm on some sort of ''guest list'' for the cathedral, so I think there is a risk of the cathedral being too full for everyone to attend. Consider this if you're going or not..... Marcelle From rockerq@... Wed Nov 10 22:01:00 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:01:00 EST Subject: [peel] Teenage Kicks Message-ID: <142.38768915.2ec3db8c@...> Well I always thought it was "A teenage dream's so hard to beat, every time she walks down the street" Funny how we've all heard it so many times & are now unsure! Rocker << I just saw a picture http://www.zintek.net/images/avatar.jpg of John with 'Are teenage dreams so hard to beat' on it. This isn't right is it. it's just a slight 'ugh' sound at the begining of the song. >> From sam.gilbert@... Thu Nov 11 12:24:54 2004 From: sam.gilbert@... (Sam Gilbert) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:24:54 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel's Last Day In-Reply-To: References: <29775418.1099954432665.JavaMail.root@...> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041111111845.04a10d90@...> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sam.gilbert@... Thu Nov 11 12:26:17 2004 From: sam.gilbert@... (Sam Gilbert) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:26:17 +0000 Subject: whoops... Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041111112529.06a10d20@...> Sorry, didn't mean to send that to the whole list, though of course I'd be glad to hear from anyone else on the list who will be going tomorrow. Sam From leohilarious@... Fri Nov 12 04:09:52 2004 From: leohilarious@... (leohilarious) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 03:09:52 -0000 Subject: Peel archive Direct Connect hub? Message-ID: There was some talk recently of how to best share all the archived Peel material that people have. P2P was mentioned along with newsgroups, but I don't think anyone mentioned setting up a Direct Connect hub? This to me seems a great option since it's a private and simple way to connect directly with other Peel fans and exchange material. More info can be found here: http://www.indx.f2s.com/index.htm and here http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/faq/faq.php?list=all&prog=1&lang=en&onlynewfaq=1 I think it's certainly worthy of consideration. Any thoughts? ~Leo From festive50@... Sat Nov 13 19:11:38 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:11:38 -0000 Subject: [peel] Funeral In-Reply-To: <002401c4c763$0c5b0d40$791379c3@3> Message-ID: Hi Marcelle Only just got back from Bury with Tom. Before we left, we went back the Cathedral to see the flowers. Amazingly they were all still there. We then stopped by John�s grave; it was in a truly beautiful setting, at the back of the churchyard in front of a low wall. All this was overlooking fields, with trees at back behind which, according to Tom was Peel Acres. It was lovely meeting up with you yesterday. It was funny how Tom got chatting to you. Do you know what time the wake went on till? We looked for you to say goodbye. We left at 7 pm. It was so cold in that barn. I wish, I�d stayed now. It was nice to see that the great man got a good send off. Phil Can you send me that link to your Internet radio and what was the name of your band? Hope you got back safely. -----Original Message----- From: Marcelle van Hoof [mailto:mar.celle@...] Sent: 10 November 2004 20:23 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Funeral Dear all. I said I'm too sad to go to the funeral, but now I will go. Through a friend and peels family I'm on some sort of ''guest list'' for the cathedral, so I think there is a risk of the cathedral being too full for everyone to attend. Consider this if you're going or not..... Marcelle Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From Phyll@... Sat Nov 13 21:04:09 2004 From: Phyll@... (Phyll Smith) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:04:09 -0000 Subject: No subject References: <1100189693.283.29373.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <009e01c4c9bb$f1b14350$d42d883e@HAL9000> Oh teenage dreams so hard to beat... surely. Cried when i read the papers today. From troche@... Sat Nov 13 21:45:51 2004 From: troche@... (troche@...) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:45:51 +0000 (GMT+00:00) Subject: [peel] Message-ID: <22226688.1100378751626.JavaMail.root@...> We are going to try to upload a few pictures of the grave I took this afternoon. trying to sort out the yahoo proceedure. stay tuned. the funeral was wrenching. occasionally funny and once or twice hilarious, but mostly as sad as sad gets. coffin passed right by, covered in liverpool-red flowers. sheila looked just wiped out. overheard family friends conversing in the pew behind us, said sheila is done crying, sometimes hears a car motoring by, thinking it might be john with bottle of wine and a new bag of CDs to listen to. at the wake shiela and family slowly cheered up, seemed truly touched by huge outpouring. Little Archie ran about, making all smile. After awhile Hermeet (sp) began plaing some reggae, then Anne Nightengale spun some things. I made a bootleg walkman tape of entire service, might try to transcribe one of the eulogies, but much later. I still have to journey back to atlanta, then a planned business trip take me to LA mid week. mega jet lag... unfamiliar computer, sorry for all the typos. tom -----Original Message----- From: Phyll Smith Sent: Nov 13, 2004 8:04 PM To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Oh teenage dreams so hard to beat... surely. Cried when i read the papers today. Yahoo! Groups Links From troche@... Sun Nov 14 00:37:11 2004 From: troche@... (troche2255) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 23:37:11 -0000 Subject: pictures In-Reply-To: <22226688.1100378751626.JavaMail.root@...> Message-ID: 2 pix should be there try http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/lst may be big files, did not have time to dumb them down; maybe yahoo does this for me. have many more, but must get to heathrow early tomrw. cheers, tom From cynicaldj@... Sun Nov 14 02:23:10 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:23:10 -0000 Subject: Funeral In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Phil, Tom, & Marcel, I just wanted to say how nice it was meeting up with Phil and Tom yesterday, albeit I wish it could have been under more pleasureable circumstances. I am sorry I missed you Marcel. The Service was beautiful and a great Honour to The Great Man; I had sniffles through most of it, but on hearing his voice, Grinderswitch, and then The Undertones, the floodgates opened - as did everyone elses. I was so glad I attended, and should like to publicly thank Alan for driving me there and back - especially as it was arranged at the last minute (0100 hours-ish on the Friday) and I don't think I would have been in any fit state to drive back afterwards anyway. I have E-Mailed you off-list anyway Phil, but was sort of glad not to get invited to the Wake, as I was just "another" devoted Listener and think I/we would have felt quite isolated, but it must have been an experience. I am glad the the public show of love, sympathy, and support have cheered Sheila and the children up a bit too. Would still like to meet up with you all again, if you're interested. Take care. Nathan. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > Hi Marcelle > Only just got back from Bury with Tom. Before we left, we went back the > Cathedral to see the flowers. Amazingly they were all still there. > We then stopped by John's grave; it was in a truly beautiful setting, at the > back of the churchyard in front of a low wall. All this was overlooking > fields, with trees at back behind which, according to Tom was Peel Acres. > It was lovely meeting up with you yesterday. It was funny how Tom got > chatting to you. > Do you know what time the wake went on till? We looked for you to say > goodbye. We left at 7 pm. It was so cold in that barn. I wish, I'd stayed > now. > It was nice to see that the great man got a good send off. > Phil > Can you send me that link to your Internet radio and what was the name of > your band? > Hope you got back safely. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcelle van Hoof [mailto:mar.celle@p...] > Sent: 10 November 2004 20:23 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Funeral > > Dear all. I said I'm too sad to go to the funeral, but now I will go. > Through a friend and peels family I'm on some sort of ''guest list'' for the > cathedral, so I think there is a risk of the cathedral being too full for > everyone to attend. Consider this if you're going or not..... > > Marcelle > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > plch/S=1705022409:HM/EXP=1100204571/A=2426685/R=0/SIG=11eslo8dq/*http: //www. > netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185401> > > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service . From iaparkin@... Sun Nov 14 10:32:46 2004 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:32:46 -0000 Subject: Thanks, as always, for listening and coming up now it's Anne Nightingale Message-ID: The last words by John on his Radio 1 show. I would like to say thank you to those posting their personal stories and pictures of the funeral. They are greatly appreciated by those of us unable to attend. Goodnight and god bless John. You brought so much to so many. I raise my glass to you and thank you from the very bottom of my heart. IAP From basshouse85@... Sun Nov 14 12:51:57 2004 From: basshouse85@... (ANTI-WAR) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:51:57 -0000 Subject: Gutted beyond belief Message-ID: I am not one for joining public demonstrations of grief but I am compelled to make an exeption with the passing of John Peel. I didn't always listen to his shows, either through geography or appathy but whenever I did I was always greatly entertained not to mention educated. Having never met John in person I have no amusing tails but I thought there was plenty of time, I couldn't imagine John would be going anywere, how wrong I was. You don't always know what you've got 'til it's gone, well not quite, I think we all knew what we had with John Peel which is why his death hurts so very much. From newswire@... Mon Nov 15 01:18:04 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:18:04 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Peel archive Direct Connect hub? References: Message-ID: <4197F5BC.000001.77029@T3O2M9> I could never get DC to work on one comp and it seems a common problem. If you wanted a private sharing environment Waste would seem the ideal candidate. It goes IP direct like DC but it's encrypted so it's actually impossible for anyone, even your ISP to see what you're sharing. It's a sourceforge project if you're interested and works on a variety of platforms - not just windows. Well that's my input. Course the really obvious thing to do is set up an IRC channel somewhere that allows registered nicks like Newnet. Then you can just use DCC send, the original closed circuit network :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ajcauk@... Mon Nov 15 04:14:03 2004 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 03:14:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: St Edmunds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041115031403.24053.qmail@...> getting into Bury about half nine in the morning peelie's on the world service as chance would have it didn't know whether i was supposed to be there but yeah i was only been to Bury a couple of times before but drunk plenty of Abbot the local brew hallowed atmosphere friendly understanding locals get called sweetheart in the bakers every word of the service rings out clear and bittersweet the part toward the end of a funeral where you feel lost and don't know what to do until you lead each other away take some pictures of the flowers with nathan someone left cd demo amongst them drive on out to Gt Finborough as the sun is going down forego a pint in the local pub later watch the news and catch the arafat funeral we agree that john would be amused at the contrast in the undertakings on the very same day the days ends fittingly with some live blues solo guitar with susi and a couple of pints of Abbot in the Neptune, Hove we see a Dalek hiding out in a basement flat but thats another story anyway finally back at base in Dorset sit and watch the uk music hall of fame on C4 dont quite get on with those things starts promisingly with polyphonic spree doing Sgt. Pepper but is cringeworthy for a while but takes on poignancy when it emerges that Chris Blackwell's wife died last Monday. At the very end there is one line dedication of the programme to John Peel ; blink and u'd miss it. Don't know how he stood with U2 but i know what he thought about Tom Waits. alan ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From douglas.fisher@... Tue Nov 16 17:45:45 2004 From: douglas.fisher@... (df100179) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:45:45 -0000 Subject: Sounds of the Suburbs Message-ID: After CH4 repeating the Oxford programme of "Sounds of the Suburbs", I was tempted to look out my tapes of the other programmes in the series, but could only find a copy of the Lanarkshire one. Can anybody remember what other areas were featured in the series? Cheers From mozy@... Tue Nov 16 19:21:39 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:21:39 -0000 Subject: [peel] Sounds of the Suburbs References: Message-ID: <000e01c4cc09$1e5a1a90$e6b0193e@User> ----- Original Message ----- From: df100179 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:45 PM Subject: [peel] Sounds of the Suburbs After CH4 repeating the Oxford programme of "Sounds of the Suburbs", I was tempted to look out my tapes of the other programmes in the series, but could only find a copy of the Lanarkshire one. Can anybody remember what other areas were featured in the series? Cheers Oxford South Wales, Cornwall, Humberside, Bradford; the Isle of Wight and the North East From basshouse85@... Tue Nov 16 20:02:44 2004 From: basshouse85@... (ANTI-WAR) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:02:44 -0000 Subject: john peel sounds and images Message-ID: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/johnpeel pics and sounds of John From alan@... Tue Nov 16 20:57:30 2004 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:57:30 -0000 Subject: [peel] john peel sounds and images References: Message-ID: <001401c4cc17$850c33a0$b95486d9@pb1996> That group (johnpeel) looks like a brand new group and has one member. Couldn't the pics and sounds have been stored on this group? I fail to see the purpose of having two groups. Cheers Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: ANTI-WAR To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: [peel] john peel sounds and images > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/johnpeel > > pics and sounds of John > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From festive50@... Wed Nov 17 01:49:58 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:49:58 -0000 Subject: Better late than ever In-Reply-To: <20041115031403.24053.qmail@...> Message-ID: My friend forgot about my request for Andy Parfitt's e-mail address. It's andy.parfittr1@... It may come in handy later. Phil From dj_oldwood@... Wed Nov 17 13:06:18 2004 From: dj_oldwood@... (dj_oldwood) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:06:18 -0000 Subject: Peel's Record Collection - British Library? Message-ID: I've seen some mentions in the press that an American radio company had bid for his collection, which (a) is unpleasantly quick off the mark and (b) it would be a sad business if they left the UK. I've also seen John wanted to leave them to the nation via the British Library. I hope this happens as, in future centuries, in the same ay was now people can see orginal manuscripts of old music and writing, someone could be able to ask to hear the Desperate Bicycles 7"s from the 70s and be able to say "so this is how music sounded then!" What I didn't know though is the British Library (http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/pop.html) already has an archive of John Peel sessions on tape which anyone can request to hear! From d.mckinnon@... Wed Nov 17 13:13:16 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:13:16 -0000 Subject: HMHB Session Message-ID: Apologies for being on the scrounge. Can anyone do me a copy of last night's Half Man Half Biscuit session on CD. Will pay the usual expenses. Thanks. dougal mckinnon E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From robfleay@... Wed Nov 17 13:18:22 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:18:22 +0000 Subject: [peel] HMHB Session Message-ID: <20041117121715.JFPP24809.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62.253.162.62]> > Apologies for being on the scrounge. Can anyone do me a copy of last > night's Half Man Half Biscuit session on CD. Will pay the usual > expenses. Thanks. http://cobweb.businesscollaborator.com/hmhb/audio/index.htm ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From dbarrell@... Wed Nov 17 13:51:07 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:51:07 +0000 Subject: [peel] HMHB Session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <419B493B.9020606@...> If you've got a high speed connection I can give you the whole show as a ~107MB mp3. Let me know if you want it, I'll put it up on my private webspace and send you the link. Cheers Dan McKINNON Dougal wrote: > Apologies for being on the scrounge. Can anyone do me a copy of last > night's Half Man Half Biscuit session on CD. Will pay the usual > expenses. Thanks. > > > dougal mckinnon > E-mail: d.mckinnon@... > > The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for > the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on > it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and > any attachment from your computer. > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service . > > -- Daniel Barrell EMBL - The EBI Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SD Phone: +44 (0)1223 492551 Email: dbarrell@... From dbarrell@... Wed Nov 17 13:52:53 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:52:53 +0000 Subject: [peel] HMHB Session In-Reply-To: <419B493B.9020606@...> References: <419B493B.9020606@...> Message-ID: <419B49A5.6090308@...> Oops, that was supposed to go to Doug only! Bloody yahoo groups... Daniel Barrell wrote: > If you've got a high speed connection I can give you the whole show as a > ~107MB mp3. Let me know if you want it, I'll put it up on my private > webspace and send you the link. > > Cheers > > Dan > > McKINNON Dougal wrote: > >>Apologies for being on the scrounge. Can anyone do me a copy of last >>night's Half Man Half Biscuit session on CD. Will pay the usual >>expenses. Thanks. >> >> >>dougal mckinnon >>E-mail: d.mckinnon@... >> >>The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for >>the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. >> >>If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on >>it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited >>and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and >>any attachment from your computer. >> >>*Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* >>ADVERTISEMENT >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>*Yahoo! Groups Links* >> >> * To visit your group on the web, go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ >> >> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> Service . >> >> > > From festive50@... Wed Nov 17 14:10:40 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:10:40 -0000 Subject: [peel] Last 3 Shows Message-ID: <1E0EB585ADA8454FBA7A02AD1CC49435031C633E@...> FOR ATTENTION OF JON I e-mailed you details last nght but it got bounced "The message could not be delivered because the recipient's mailbox is full". Phil -----Original Message----- From: Jon [mailto:jmsmall@ntlworld.com] Sent: Tue 16/11/2004 08:25 To: festive50@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: Last 3 shows -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Barrell [mailto:dbarrell@ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Wed 17/11/2004 12:52 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Cc: Subject: Re: [peel] HMHB Session From motospam@... Wed Nov 17 19:00:12 2004 From: motospam@... (MOTO ROCK) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:00:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Peel's Record Collection - British Library? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041117180012.12988.qmail@...> So the British Library is gonna have a copy of "Crystallize My Penis"? Paul M.O.T.O. --- dj_oldwood wrote: > > > I've seen some mentions in the press that an > American radio company > had bid for his collection, which (a) is > unpleasantly quick off the > mark and (b) it would be a sad business if they left > the UK. > > I've also seen John wanted to leave them to the > nation via the > British Library. I hope this happens as, in future > centuries, in the > same ay was now people can see orginal manuscripts > of old music and > writing, someone could be able to ask to hear the > Desperate Bicycles > 7"s from the 70s and be able to say "so this is how > music sounded > then!" > > What I didn't know though is the British Library > (http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/pop.html) > already has an > archive of John Peel sessions on tape which anyone > can request to > hear! > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion > Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/JPJolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > ===== "Just coz it's the truth, don't make it true!" M.O.T.O. (Masters Of The Obvious) http://www.MOTOROCK.com http://www.myspace.com/moto http://www.garageband.com/artist/moto_masters_of_the_obvious - MP3s! Join the MOTOROCK@yahoogroups.com at: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/motorock/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From mozy@... Thu Nov 18 00:01:15 2004 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:01:15 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's Record Collection - British Library? References: <20041117180012.12988.qmail@...> Message-ID: <000801c4ccf9$57e699f0$669a193e@User> And why not? They got Melt Banana! So the British Library is gonna have a copy of "Crystallize My Penis"? Paul M.O.T.O. --- dj_oldwood wrote: > > > I've seen some mentions in the press that an > American radio company > had bid for his collection, which (a) is > unpleasantly quick off the > mark and (b) it would be a sad business if they left > the UK. > > I've also seen John wanted to leave them to the > nation via the > British Library. I hope this happens as, in future > centuries, in the > same ay was now people can see orginal manuscripts > of old music and > writing, someone could be able to ask to hear the > Desperate Bicycles > 7"s from the 70s and be able to say "so this is how > music sounded > then!" > > What I didn't know though is the British Library > (http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/pop.html) > already has an > archive of John Peel sessions on tape which anyone > can request to > hear! > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion > Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/JPJolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > ===== "Just coz it's the truth, don't make it true!" M.O.T.O. (Masters Of The Obvious) http://www.MOTOROCK.com http://www.myspace.com/moto http://www.garageband.com/artist/moto_masters_of_the_obvious - MP3s! Join the MOTOROCK@yahoogroups.com at: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/motorock/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links From cynicaldj@... Fri Nov 19 01:11:03 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:11:03 -0000 Subject: Am I Being Nasty? Message-ID: Hello All, I've been trying to listen to Rob Da Bank standing in for John Peel, and to be fair, he's doing a great job in a very difficult situation and not trying to impose his own personality, but does anyone feel that the Music is being dumbed down already? I heard 808 State "Pacific" last night, not sure Mr. Peel would have played that for a start - or am I being unfair? What do you all think? http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ Rock In Peace - John Peel. From festive50@... Fri Nov 19 01:24:15 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0000 Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Nathan 808 State "Pacific" was in 1989 FF and JP also played it circa Oct 88. Phil -----Original Message----- From: cynicaldj [mailto:cynicaldj@...] Sent: 19 November 2004 00:11 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? Hello All, I've been trying to listen to Rob Da Bank standing in for John Peel, and to be fair, he's doing a great job in a very difficult situation and not trying to impose his own personality, but does anyone feel that the Music is being dumbed down already? I heard 808 State "Pacific" last night, not sure Mr. Peel would have played that for a start - or am I being unfair? What do you all think? http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ Rock In Peace - John Peel. Yahoo! Groups Links From newswire@... Fri Nov 19 01:31:27 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:31:27 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? References: Message-ID: <419D3EDF.000001.23005@T3O2M9> There are a couple of times I've noticed that the best things in the shows have been the starred records John had already chosen. I don't think Rob quite has the gift. I haven't heard him play anything brand new and devastatingly good yet. I'll go as far as to say that. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/19/04 00:12:01 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? Hello All, I've been trying to listen to Rob Da Bank standing in for John Peel, and to be fair, he's doing a great job in a very difficult situation and not trying to impose his own personality, but does anyone feel that the Music is being dumbed down already? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From newswire@... Fri Nov 19 01:37:53 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:37:53 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? References: Message-ID: <419D4061.000004.23005@T3O2M9> Actually that stuff really has struggled with the passage of time though. I remember thinking Voodoo Ray sounded amazing at the time, but it sounds really stale now. It's the same with all that Detroit Techno stuff. It really hasn't stood the test of time very well at all. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/19/04 00:25:03 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? Hi Nathan 808 State "Pacific" was in 1989 FF and JP also played it circa Oct 88. Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iangwilson@... Fri Nov 19 01:38:27 2004 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:38:27 +0000 Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b3563a04111816381d70de50@...> Hi all, I've also been listening to RDB tonight in parts. I'm impressed with his delivery, and he appears to be coping admiraably with what must be an unenviable task. I've never heard anything he has done before - has he changed his approach or can we expect more of the same? I must admit, I find him tolerable, and have to also admit to switching the radio on with low expectations. Give the bloke a chance! Ian. On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0000, Phil Edwards wrote: > Hi Nathan > > 808 State "Pacific" was in 1989 FF and JP also played it circa Oct 88. > Phil > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cynicaldj [mailto:cynicaldj@...] > Sent: 19 November 2004 00:11 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? > > > Hello All, > > I've been trying to listen to Rob Da Bank standing in for John Peel, > and to be fair, he's doing a great job in a very difficult situation > and not trying to impose his own personality, but does anyone feel > that the Music is being dumbed down already? > > I heard 808 State "Pacific" last night, not sure Mr. Peel would have > played that for a start - or am I being unfair? > > What do you all think? > > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ > > Rock In Peace - John Peel. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From iangwilson@... Fri Nov 19 01:41:32 2004 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:41:32 +0000 Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? In-Reply-To: <419D4061.000004.23005@T3O2M9> References: <419D4061.000004.23005@T3O2M9> Message-ID: <7b3563a041118164158861564@...> I agree - I remember buying the 808 State album after hearing them on Peel - I reckon I played the thing once! Didn't last the week for me! Ian. On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:37:53 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Mark wrote: > > > Actually that stuff really has struggled with the passage of time though. I > remember thinking Voodoo Ray sounded amazing at the time, but it sounds > really stale now. It's the same with all that Detroit Techno stuff. It > really hasn't stood the test of time very well at all. > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: peel@yahoogroups.com > Date: 11/19/04 00:25:03 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? > > Hi Nathan > > 808 State "Pacific" was in 1989 FF and JP also played it circa Oct 88. > Phil > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From festive50@... Fri Nov 19 02:07:55 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 01:07:55 -0000 Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? In-Reply-To: <7b3563a04111816381d70de50@...> Message-ID: I must admit, it is proving difficult but I shall persevere, otherwise what else have we got. When Tom and I bumped into Hermeet and Louise last week at Yalding House last week, they honestly believed that they would continue in his footsteps. In Paul Gambacini's eulogy, he said that NO-ONE has listened to so much music in the western world as John Peel. Mind you, someone at the wake said "NO-ONE has listened to so much crap in the western world as John Peel to give us his programs" Phil -----Original Message----- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:iangwilson@...] Sent: 19 November 2004 00:38 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? Hi all, I've also been listening to RDB tonight in parts. I'm impressed with his delivery, and he appears to be coping admiraably with what must be an unenviable task. I've never heard anything he has done before - has he changed his approach or can we expect more of the same? I must admit, I find him tolerable, and have to also admit to switching the radio on with low expectations. Give the bloke a chance! Ian. On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0000, Phil Edwards wrote: > Hi Nathan > > 808 State "Pacific" was in 1989 FF and JP also played it circa Oct 88. > Phil > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cynicaldj [mailto:cynicaldj@...] > Sent: 19 November 2004 00:11 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? > > > Hello All, > > I've been trying to listen to Rob Da Bank standing in for John Peel, > and to be fair, he's doing a great job in a very difficult situation > and not trying to impose his own personality, but does anyone feel > that the Music is being dumbed down already? > > I heard 808 State "Pacific" last night, not sure Mr. Peel would have > played that for a start - or am I being unfair? > > What do you all think? > > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ > > Rock In Peace - John Peel. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links From cynicaldj@... Fri Nov 19 03:56:43 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:56:43 -0000 Subject: Am I Being Nasty? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for all that reply Phil. As you say, what else have we got? I think it's wrong to criticise Rob himself as he is in a very difficult position, and it would be nice to see Hermeet, Louise, and Rob take the Peel Show into 2005, but I just don't see it, do you? Also, Phil, did you get my E-Mail? Will say one thing though, the couples of tracks he's played from the Duran Duran Duran have rocked! Very Peel!!! Thanks for your replies everyone. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ Rock In Peace - John Peel. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > I must admit, it is proving difficult but I shall persevere, otherwise what > else have we got. When Tom and I bumped into Hermeet and Louise last week at > Yalding House last week, they honestly believed that they would continue in > his footsteps. > In Paul Gambacini's eulogy, he said that NO-ONE has listened to so much > music in the western world as John Peel. Mind you, someone at the wake said > "NO-ONE has listened to so much crap in the western world as John Peel to > give us his programs" > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Wilson [mailto:iangwilson@g...] > Sent: 19 November 2004 00:38 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? > > > Hi all, > > I've also been listening to RDB tonight in parts. I'm impressed with > his delivery, and he appears to be coping admiraably with what must be > an unenviable task. I've never heard anything he has done before - has > he changed his approach or can we expect more of the same? I must > admit, I find him tolerable, and have to also admit to switching the > radio on with low expectations. > > Give the bloke a chance! > > Ian. > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0000, Phil Edwards > wrote: > > Hi Nathan > > > > 808 State "Pacific" was in 1989 FF and JP also played it circa Oct 88. > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cynicaldj [mailto:cynicaldj@y...] > > Sent: 19 November 2004 00:11 > > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I've been trying to listen to Rob Da Bank standing in for John Peel, > > and to be fair, he's doing a great job in a very difficult situation > > and not trying to impose his own personality, but does anyone feel > > that the Music is being dumbed down already? > > > > I heard 808 State "Pacific" last night, not sure Mr. Peel would have > > played that for a start - or am I being unfair? > > > > What do you all think? > > > > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ > > > > Rock In Peace - John Peel.__________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links From martinw@... Fri Nov 19 10:06:18 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:06:18 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Am I Being Nasty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041119084743.00c403d8@...> I think we should remember that at the moment most of the records are ones that have already been through the Peel filter system even if the hadn't programmed them yet. We won't be able to judge until they actually start picking new records for themselves. That probably won't happen too much until a decision is made on whether the prog as is will be extended beyond the new year Rob at the moment is really being just a presenter rather than a compiler His delivery is quite similar to that he used on Blue Room (which he is not actually doing at the moment so you can't compare) We do know that Peel liked Rob as a dj because he said so on air once or twice and I suspect he may have had a hand in picking him as the holiday standin One innovation I do like is playing an old session track each show There will be some stylistic differences and that's inevitable. The 808 State was probably a Rob choice since its the sort of thing he plays on the Blue Room - as he has a 'chillout' dance background you must expect that. There have been few African records except old favourites whose name Louise recognised when they were requested. Truth is none of 3 probably know that much about African music - on the other Rob is much stronger on reggae than Peel was. Its going to be swings and roundabouts. I hope that the current 3 continue - at least long enough that we can get some sense of how good they are at picking new music. That hasn't happened yet martinw From dj_oldwood@... Fri Nov 19 12:20:22 2004 From: dj_oldwood@... (dj_oldwood) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:20:22 -0000 Subject: John's last World Service Programme Message-ID: Listened to John's last World Service programme this morning, including a track from Neu from 1972 - I can remember buying that when it came out. The last track ever was a stonking dance tune from Dr Venom. I'll have to buy that too. Did anyone get a decent recording of the show? Happy to pay postage etc costs for a CD if anyone can drop it one to one for me. As we can't get the medium wave broadcast of World Service in Scotland I was reduced to using my portable DAB radio and recording it onto my pocket PC! Fitting though as I the first time I taped things of his show it was using a portable cassette and microphone of a transistor radio! BTW the world service and are going to be broadcasting old Peel sessions in his slot for the next few months. From bill.spiby@... Fri Nov 19 14:49:21 2004 From: bill.spiby@... (spib2003) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:49:21 -0000 Subject: Peel's replacement Message-ID: I agree with many theat Rob's giving it a good go in a difficult situation. However, without being critical of Rob, I think a more appropriate replacement would be Steve Barker of On the Wire fame. Check out old playlists at http://www.onthewire.uk.com/web/html/OLDER.asp From rockerq@... Fri Nov 19 19:14:20 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:14:20 EST Subject: [peel] Am I Being Nasty? Message-ID: <87.1b05afb5.2ecf91fc@...> << In Paul Gambacini's eulogy, he said that NO-ONE has listened to so much music in the western world as John Peel. Mind you, someone at the wake said "NO-ONE has listened to so much crap in the western world as John Peel to give us his programs" >> And a lot of people honestly think most of what John played was crap! That's one of the reason's his show was so good - closed-minded mainstream wankers didn't like it - funny how a year later when a record was a hit they would always claim to have loved it from the start! (and of course that included a good number of radio One DJs!). Like the man says give RDB a chance! They can only replace him with worse, after all! (And save us all six hours a week! ;-) Cheers! Rocker PS No Viv Stanshall or Wah! yet - and what about that Altered Images version of "Song Sung Blue" with John on backing vocals! From basshouse85@... Fri Nov 19 22:34:20 2004 From: basshouse85@... (ANTI-WAR) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:34:20 -0000 Subject: john peel sounds and images In-Reply-To: <001401c4cc17$850c33a0$b95486d9@pb1996> Message-ID: I tend to agree with you, it wasn't until after I started the group that I discovered this one. I think it is symptamatic of a generation growing up listening to Peel that one tends to think they are the only ones doing it. Anyway it is done now and with genuine sincerity of intention so join or not it's not too important, I did it for myself. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ford" wrote: > That group (johnpeel) looks like a brand new group and has one member. > Couldn't the pics and sounds have been stored on this group? > I fail to see the purpose of having two groups. > Cheers > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANTI-WAR > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:02 PM > Subject: [peel] john peel sounds and images > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/johnpeel > > > > pics and sounds of John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From newswire@... Sat Nov 20 00:14:05 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:14:05 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement References: Message-ID: <419E7E3D.000001.54565@T3O2M9> I have to admit I actually thought Steve was the obvious replacement. I'm a regular reader of his Wire Columns as well as a listener and I was really surprised he didn't get the nod. . -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/19/04 13:51:04 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement I agree with many theat Rob's giving it a good go in a difficult situation. However, without being critical of Rob, I think a more appropriate replacement would be Steve Barker of On the Wire fame. Check out old playlists at http://www.onthewire.uk.com/web/html/OLDER.asp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martinw@... Sat Nov 20 01:18:37 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:18:37 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement In-Reply-To: <419E7E3D.000001.54565@T3O2M9> References: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041120001230.00c61c20@...> At 23:14 19/11/2004 +0000, you wrote: > I have to admit I actually thought Steve was the obvious replacement. > I'm a regular reader of his Wire Columns as well as a listener and I was > really surprised he didn't get the nod. . > The cynic in me suggests they are currently testing out whether it was the dj or the format that attracted people before they even consider hiring from outside. My suspicion is that if the audiences fall drastically under Rob they will conclude it was the dj and that will be the end of eclectic programming on Radio 1 martinw From robstrong@... Sat Nov 20 10:37:17 2004 From: robstrong@... (Rob Strong) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:37:17 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041120001230.00c61c20@...> Message-ID: <005201c4cee4$9640a1e0$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> From: "Martin Wheatley" > The cynic in me suggests they are currently testing out whether it was the dj > or the format that attracted people before they even consider hiring from > outside. My suspicion is that if the audiences fall drastically under Rob > they will conclude it was the dj and that will be the end of eclectic > programming on Radio 1 I don't know if anyone else round here has the same problem as me. Whether it's getting older or whatever, I can't regularly stay up beyond 11 and function at work the next day. I hadn't listened to any of Peel's shows in the few weeks after the switch to 11pm-1am, and I haven't heard Rob Da Bank at all. From rockerq@... Sat Nov 20 11:05:50 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 05:05:50 EST Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement Message-ID: <1b8.6a19efb.2ed070fe@...> << I can't regularly stay up beyond 11 and function at work the next day. >> Hey! The technology exists to make a recording of the show, and you could then listen to it at an earlier time on the following evening! This has the added benefit of ensuring you miss Zane Lowe's show! Cheers! Rocker From simon@... Sat Nov 20 14:18:53 2004 From: simon@... (simon@...) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:18:53 +0000 Subject: Steve Barker Message-ID: > I agree with many theat Rob's giving it a good go in a difficult > situation. However, without being critical of Rob, I think a more > appropriate replacement would be Steve Barker of On the Wire fame. > Check out old playlists at > http://www.onthewire.uk.com/web/html/OLDER.asp > doesn't Steve live overseas now? I thought he only presented the odd OTW these days... I do agree he'd be splendid as a replacement, but I suspect that he'd be considered too old for Radio One. There would be a slight irony in him taking over after everyone was complaining about Peel shifting off towards dawn in the schedule, as I seem to recall when Radio Lancashire moved On The Wire back past midnight on Thursdays Peel read out a letter from a listener complaining and then said something like "on the other hand, I do think that if what you're doing is interesting enough, people will seek you out wherever you are..." From blairbear@... Sat Nov 20 20:52:30 2004 From: blairbear@... (Davie Ramsay) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:52:30 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement In-Reply-To: <005201c4cee4$9640a1e0$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <007301c4cf3a$786b3080$4e679fd4@home2uz9c54pbo> Ditto here but I did still listen on the BBC site the next day. I gave RDB a go yesterday, not to impressed I'm afraid. I guess we will never hear his likes again. Sad but true Davie R -----Original Message----- From: Rob Strong [mailto:robstrong@...] Sent: 20 November 2004 09:37 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel's replacement From: "Martin Wheatley" > The cynic in me suggests they are currently testing out whether it was the dj > or the format that attracted people before they even consider hiring from > outside. My suspicion is that if the audiences fall drastically under Rob > they will conclude it was the dj and that will be the end of eclectic > programming on Radio 1 I don't know if anyone else round here has the same problem as me. Whether it's getting older or whatever, I can't regularly stay up beyond 11 and function at work the next day. I hadn't listened to any of Peel's shows in the few weeks after the switch to 11pm-1am, and I haven't heard Rob Da Bank at all. Yahoo! Groups Links -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From philip_h@... Sun Nov 21 13:14:52 2004 From: philip_h@... (phil) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:14:52 -0000 Subject: Steve Barker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve Barker's Peel tribute show is available to download, as are many other On The Wire shows. The Peel one was on Nov 6th http://www.onthewire.uk.com/web/html/shows.asp phil From sete.colinas@... Sun Nov 21 17:50:47 2004 From: sete.colinas@... (Leo Gilbert) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:50:47 +0000 Subject: Peel's replacement Message-ID: <7E7B68CE-3BDD-11D9-B573-000A956B4CF8@...> Having just listened to a couple of "On the wire" programmes, it seems clear to me that Steve Barker, nice guy though he clearly is, could not be the next John Peel. The music he played lacked both variety and bite. The great thing about John was that his records always sounded fresh because they contrasted with those on either side. Even if it was impossible to love everything he played, there was no room for stagnation, and the top tracks from each programme - certainly the ones I kept - would very likely be from a whole range of different genres. The only thing that his choices had in common was that they all had a kind of edge, or they acquired that edge from being played in the context of his exhilarating show, and that was what kept his shows vital. We need somebody who loves music, not somebody who loves a particular type of music. I think that an amateur - a music fan who has good communication skills - would almost certainly do a better job than any of the professionals I've heard. Leo From martinw@... Sun Nov 21 20:05:21 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:05:21 +0000 Subject: Peel Playlists Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041121185832.00c68ee0@...> Following an enquiry on the Fall list a potential difficulty may have arisen Ken Garner's book covers the seesions up till the early 90s Then there is the website http://www.vheissu.freeserve.co.uk/bands.html Up until 2002 Then there are the archived playlists on the BBC site. But are they going to stay there when it's not the Peel show anymore or will the Peel pages vanish when someone takes over formally in the New Year and gets their own page Do we need to start copying the playlists or has someone already got a collection that is accessible? martinw From festive50@... Sun Nov 21 20:27:47 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:27:47 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Playlists In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041121185832.00c68ee0@...> Message-ID: I refer to some earlier posts I made, ironically before John died. This concerns an Access database (includes approx. 6000 tracks) I have compiled which I was in the middle of creating and have since uploaded to the Files section. Basically, it was made up from Lorcan's and the various FF sites and the original BBC tracklistings site before it was revamped and a complex macro which converted it into a suitable format for my DB. What I need now is a suitable prog (preferably free) to wack the current tracklistings before it is taken off line. I hope this is of some Phil From newswire@... Mon Nov 22 00:21:44 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:21:44 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement References: <1b8.6a19efb.2ed070fe@...> Message-ID: <41A12308.000001.92761@T3O2M9> Would you be horriified if i admitted I haven't actually listened live to the show since the dawn of DTT? It's just so easy to set the video and Nicam sound is more than adequate. Now with HD recorders it's even easier. I dont think the AOD is very good quality but, it provdes a good safety net if anytihng goes wrong with the video. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/20/04 10:07:02 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel's replacement Hey! The technology exists to make a recording of the show, and you could then listen to it at an earlier time on the following evening! This has the added benefit of ensuring you miss Zane Lowe's show! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From festive50@... Mon Nov 22 00:55:14 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:55:14 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement In-Reply-To: <41A12308.000001.92761@T3O2M9> Message-ID: Likewise, and even more so. I�ve hardly ever listened to a live show due to family and other commitments. In early �70�s I became a Hi-Fi buff, where sound quality was everything. However, in 1987 when I rediscovered Peel, and I had to go into hospital twice for 2 week stints, I used to tape Peel on a portable radio cassette and heard the Bhundu Boys, King of the Slums and Public Enemy for the 1st time, I discovered that content was everything and sound quality just a bonus. These tapes are one of my most treasured possessions. So no need to apologise Mark. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:newswire@...] Sent: 21 November 2004 23:22 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel's replacement Would you be horriified if i admitted I haven't actually listened live to the show since the dawn of DTT? It's just so easy to set the video and Nicam sound is more than adequate. Now with HD recorders it's even easier. I dont think the AOD is very good quality but, it provdes a good safety net if anytihng goes wrong with the video. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/20/04 10:07:02 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Peel's replacement Hey! The technology exists to make a recording of the show, and you could then listen to it at an earlier time on the following evening! This has the added benefit of ensuring you miss Zane Lowe's show! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martinw@... Mon Nov 22 10:25:35 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:25:35 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Playlists In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041121185832.00c68ee0@...> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041122091345.00c5b020@...> At 19:27 21/11/2004 +0000, Phil wrote: > >I refer to some earlier posts I made, ironically before John died. >This concerns an Access database (includes approx. 6000 tracks) I have >compiled which I was in the middle of creating and have since uploaded to >the Files section. >Basically, it was made up from Lorcan's and the various FF sites and the >original BBC tracklistings site before it was revamped and a complex macro >which converted it into a suitable format for my DB. What I need now is a >suitable prog (preferably free) to wack the current tracklistings before it >is taken off line. >I hope this is of some >Phil Probably a lot of people including me don't have Access and the database file won't easily load into anything else. Is it possible to save it in a Works format or something like that. Net Transport http://lycos26486.l97.lycos.com.cn/default.htm will download all the links from a page so should work from the Tracklistings index page. Its shareware but works fine without payment Or i can do it and zip them up for you if you prefer. martinw From stuart@... Mon Nov 22 13:54:57 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:54:57 +0000 Subject: Peel book In-Reply-To: <1101126428.322.18526.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1101126428.322.18526.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Whether this will meet the 'approval' of the group I'm not sure but I'm sure it will be of interest - a biography of John by Mick Wall. Out in a week as far as I can tell. It's described as a 'tribute' but I have no idea if it was always planned with its cover changed, a work-in-progress recently completed, or something else rushed out in time for Xmas. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0752872125/ref=amb_asin-coop-1_151439/026-4668031-3915639 Stuart -- From robfleay@... Mon Nov 22 14:07:17 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:07:17 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel book Message-ID: <20041122131027.TWQF2076.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62.253.162.65]> > I'm sure it will be of interest - a biography of John by > Mick Wall. Mick Wall - I recognised the name from my younger days as a closet heavy metal fan - this guy used to write for Kerrang! In fact his credentials are spelled out on the Amazon site if you dig "Mick Wall was the founding editor of Classic Rock Magazine. He's the author of numerous music titles, including books on Iron Maiden, Don Arden and Black Sabbath. He ghosted XS All Areas: the autobiography of Status Quo, and is a former dj on Capital Radio." I guess we can give him the benefit of the doubt but I would be genuinely surprised if this book was any good - or at least showed an understanding & appreciation of the music John championed. Looks like there a couple of other rush releases for xmas here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0952871262/ref=pd_sim_b_dp_1/202-2229892-6567021 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1843171511/reviews/202-2229892-6567021 The Michael Heatley book looks like the pick of the bunch... But even weirder - Amazon are still listing Peel's AUTOBIOGRAPHY with a release date of September 2005.. ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From dunelm@... Mon Nov 22 22:24:39 2004 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:24:39 -0000 Subject: Peel Playlists Message-ID: Does anyone happen to know if the BBC's PasB (Programme-as- Broadcast) sheets are available for inspection by the general public? Ken Garner's book refers to archives held at Caversham, and I for one would really like to see the playlists for some of Peel's old shows. For example, the playlists for two shows from 1977 would make interesting reading: the August Bank Holiday show, when he played exclusively punk records for (I think) the first time: and the show in December when he played the 1977 Festive Fifty (chosen by him rather than his listeners, and which does not appear in full on any of the FF websites). Of course, the playlists for any of Peel's shows in the last thirty- odd years would make fascinating reading. I wonder if there would be any mileage in someone producing a book of nothing but playlists from his shows?! From moomin@... Tue Nov 23 00:50:27 2004 From: moomin@... (simon smith) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:50:27 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Playlists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , dunelm61 writes >For example, the playlists for two shows from 1977 would make >interesting reading: the August Bank Holiday show, when he played >exclusively punk records for (I think) the first time As someone who started listening in 1978, I would be absolutely fascinated to see the process of morphing from the old Peel to the new Peel through '76-'77. An older friend has told me of a programme when he devoted the whole show to a history of punk going back to the 60s, through the Stooges etc. Is that the one you mean? I had the impression it was in 1976, but I'm probably wrong. -- simon smith From belphegore@... Tue Nov 23 19:32:49 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:32:49 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago Message-ID: Hi, can anyone help me to identify tracks played by John Peel please? Peel played these tracks between 1982 and 1993 on BFBS (British Forces Broadcasting Service) Germany. But I assume he played it as well on BBC at the same time. Every hint is welcome. BTW I was listening regulary to John Peel between 1982 and 2000 on BFBS. Since 1998 I heard his shows on BBC. ??? - What happen's? ~2:09 min., from 1983? Something from Poland I think. Weird but I like it http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/what_happens.mp3 ??? - Hey mama, hey papa ~3:11 min., from 1983? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/hey.mp3 ??? - Can you trust the fool? ~5:07 min., from 1983? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/can_you_truxt_the_fool.mp3 Mohatella Queens - ??? from or with the Mohatella Queens ~2:51 min., between 1987-1989 or earlier http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/mohatella_queens.mp3 Splinted - ??? Splintered?? ~2:46 min., from 1989/1990? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/splinted.mp3 Rapeman - ??? ~3:20 min., 1989/1990 perhaps "Inki's Butt Crack" 3:24? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rapeman.mp3 ??? - Kids in America (Cover Version) ~3:00 min., 1990/1991 http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/kids_in_america.mp3 ??? - Hot steppers returning ~3:31 min., between 1991-1993 or earlier http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/hot_steppers_returning.mp3 Revolutionaires - ??? ~3:37 min. http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rev.mp3 From dunelm@... Tue Nov 23 20:34:47 2004 From: dunelm@... (dunelm61) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:34:47 -0000 Subject: Peel Playlists Message-ID: You're right, Simon Smith! The 10/12/76 show (one hour long) featured exclusively punk tracks, but these were mostly American, not many British punk bands having released any records by that stage. The August Bank Holiday 1977 show (two hours long) featured exclusively punk records, but this time they were mostly British. The Festive Fifty of 1977 (which included only records from that year - it was not an all-time chart as in 1976 and again in 1978), was chosen by Peel himself, presumably because he felt that the tastes of his listeners had not quite kept pace with his show's change of direction. It certainly would be fascinating to see published the playlists from that era - I wonder if an author such as Ken Garner or a publication such as Record Collector would consider such a project? From pat183us@... Tue Nov 23 23:41:26 2004 From: pat183us@... (Pat Dibben) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041123224126.11772.qmail@...> I am pretty sure "Hotsteppers returning" is Ini Kamoze. Had a hit called "Her Comes the Hotstepper" round about the same time. Pat. atyourveryownrisk wrote: Hi, can anyone help me to identify tracks played by John Peel please? Peel played these tracks between 1982 and 1993 on BFBS (British Forces Broadcasting Service) Germany. But I assume he played it as well on BBC at the same time. Every hint is welcome. BTW I was listening regulary to John Peel between 1982 and 2000 on BFBS. Since 1998 I heard his shows on BBC. ??? - What happen's? ~2:09 min., from 1983? Something from Poland I think. Weird but I like it http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/what_happens.mp3 ??? - Hey mama, hey papa ~3:11 min., from 1983? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/hey.mp3 ??? - Can you trust the fool? ~5:07 min., from 1983? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/can_you_truxt_the_fool.mp3 Mohatella Queens - ??? from or with the Mohatella Queens ~2:51 min., between 1987-1989 or earlier http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/mohatella_queens.mp3 Splinted - ??? Splintered?? ~2:46 min., from 1989/1990? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/splinted.mp3 Rapeman - ??? ~3:20 min., 1989/1990 perhaps "Inki's Butt Crack" 3:24? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rapeman.mp3 ??? - Kids in America (Cover Version) ~3:00 min., 1990/1991 http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/kids_in_america.mp3 ??? - Hot steppers returning ~3:31 min., between 1991-1993 or earlier http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/hot_steppers_returning.mp3 Revolutionaires - ??? ~3:37 min. http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rev.mp3 Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! ��� Try it today! From robfleay@... Tue Nov 23 23:50:33 2004 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:50:33 -0000 Subject: [peel] Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41A3BEB9.25117.6BF7D4@localhost> > Rapeman - ??? > ~3:20 min., 1989/1990 > perhaps "Inki's Butt Crack" 3:24? > http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rapeman.mp3 Yes - this is definitely Inki's Butt Crack from the SubPop singles club 7" > ??? - Kids in America (Cover Version) > ~3:00 min., 1990/1991 > http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/kids_in_america.mp3 Not sure about this one cos so many people have covered it.. From festive50@... Wed Nov 24 00:45:46 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:45:46 -0000 Subject: [peel] Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's Mahotella Queens The only tracks I can find in my database Rapeman - Monobrow played 08/08/2000 from LP Two Nuns & a Pack Mule on Blast First Revolutionaires - Leftist played on 31/08/2000 on Channel 1 records Phil -----Original Message----- From: atyourveryownrisk [mailto:belphegore@...] Sent: 23 November 2004 18:33 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago Hi, can anyone help me to identify tracks played by John Peel please? Peel played these tracks between 1982 and 1993 on BFBS (British Forces Broadcasting Service) Germany. But I assume he played it as well on BBC at the same time. Every hint is welcome. BTW I was listening regulary to John Peel between 1982 and 2000 on BFBS. Since 1998 I heard his shows on BBC. ??? - What happen's? ~2:09 min., from 1983? Something from Poland I think. Weird but I like it http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/what_happens.mp3 ??? - Hey mama, hey papa ~3:11 min., from 1983? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/hey.mp3 ??? - Can you trust the fool? ~5:07 min., from 1983? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/can_you_truxt_the_fool.mp3 Mohatella Queens - ??? from or with the Mohatella Queens ~2:51 min., between 1987-1989 or earlier http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/mohatella_queens.mp3 Splinted - ??? Splintered?? ~2:46 min., from 1989/1990? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/splinted.mp3 Rapeman - ??? ~3:20 min., 1989/1990 perhaps "Inki's Butt Crack" 3:24? http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rapeman.mp3 ??? - Kids in America (Cover Version) ~3:00 min., 1990/1991 http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/kids_in_america.mp3 ??? - Hot steppers returning ~3:31 min., between 1991-1993 or earlier http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/hot_steppers_returning.mp3 Revolutionaires - ??? ~3:37 min. http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/rev.mp3 Yahoo! Groups Links From martinw@... Wed Nov 24 12:16:06 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:16:06 +0000 Subject: Peel Night Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041124110958.02d60dd0@...> For those not listening last night (and we do need to keep Rob's listening figures up at least for the time being if eclectic programming is to be maintained!) there is to be a Radio 1 Peel Night on Dec 16 Details at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel.shtml From robfleay@... Wed Nov 24 12:44:04 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:44:04 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Night Message-ID: <20041124114606.XTIU1092.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62.253.162.61]> > there is to be a Radio 1 Peel Night on Dec 16 > Details at > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel.shtml I missed this - was there any indication if this was a closed event or if there were tickets/competition style stuff available? And while we're at it - what have people voted for in the F50? I'm guessing that "Blindness" by The Fall is up there amongst the favourites and The Wedding Present appear to have rush released their single to make it eligible! ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From belphegore@... Wed Nov 24 16:20:14 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:20:14 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: <20041123224126.11772.qmail@...> Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Pat Dibben wrote: > I am pretty sure "Hotsteppers returning" is Ini Kamoze. > Had a hit called "Her Comes the Hotstepper" round about the same time. I assumed at first the same. But can't find this track fom Ini Kamoze anywhere... Thanks! From belphegore@... Wed Nov 24 16:29:26 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:29:26 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: <41A3BEB9.25117.6BF7D4@localhost> Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Robf" wrote: > Yes - this is definitely Inki's Butt Crack from the SubPop singles club 7" Thanks a lot. > > ??? - Kids in America (Cover Version) > > ~3:00 min., 1990/1991 > > http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/kids_in_america.mp3 > > Not sure about this one cos so many people have covered it.. Of course it's a very famous track for covering. From belphegore@... Wed Nov 24 16:47:09 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:47:09 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > It's Mahotella Queens > > The only tracks I can find in my database > Rapeman - Monobrow played 08/08/2000 from LP Two Nuns & a Pack Mule on Blast > First The mentioning track isn't on the album and it's also not on the Headache EP. > Revolutionaires - Leftist played on 31/08/2000 on Channel 1 records Perhaps it's Leftist or the B-Side. I don't know when it came out. But I recorded it definite between 1991 and 1993. Thank you. From belphegore@... Wed Nov 24 16:55:31 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:55:31 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Edwards" wrote: > It's Mahotella Queens Forget something. Do you know the track? Peel said something like "In dodo in colo". That's of course not right but a clue. I can't find something like that from the Mohatella Queens... From adyfoley@... Wed Nov 24 17:26:10 2004 From: adyfoley@... (ady foley) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:26:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Peel's replacement In-Reply-To: <005201c4cee4$9640a1e0$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20041124162610.58262.qmail@...> i do rob, a combination of getting older and having to get up early doesn't really help. if i have the radio on now i very rarely make it to the end of a show... ady --- Rob Strong wrote: > > > I don't know if anyone else round here has the same problem as me. > Whether > it's getting older or whatever, I can't regularly stay up beyond 11 > and > function at work the next day. I hadn't listened to any of Peel's > shows in > the few weeks after the switch to 11pm-1am, and I haven't heard Rob > Da Bank > at all. > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Create your own customized LAUNCHcast Internet Radio station. > Rate your favorite Artists, Albums, and Songs. Skip songs. Click > here! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/7itK7D/xA5HAA/n1hLAA/JPJolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ===== vacuous pop presents friday 17 december caretaker, alesiachair & one unique signal the wheatsheaf, 129 high street, oxford doors 7.45pm / �5 / 18+ vacuous pop - record label & live promotions ------------------------------------------------------------------------ cat on form / dustball / ship's a going down / xahdrez / the edmund fitzgerald / youthmovie soundtrack strategies / help she can't swim vacuous pop, po box 289, oxford ox5 1we | www.vacuouspop.com ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win �10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail www.yahoo.co.uk/10k From adyfoley@... Wed Nov 24 18:07:41 2004 From: adyfoley@... (ady foley) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:07:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041124170741.21327.qmail@...> hello, there has been many covers but i think this is lawnmower deth, on earache records from around 91. ady --- atyourveryownrisk wrote: > > ??? - Kids in America (Cover Version) > ~3:00 min., 1990/1991 > http://home.arcor.de/slingnau/kids_in_america.mp3 > ===== vacuous pop presents friday 17 december caretaker, alesiachair & one unique signal the wheatsheaf, 129 high street, oxford doors 7.45pm / �5 / 18+ vacuous pop - record label & live promotions ------------------------------------------------------------------------ cat on form / dustball / ship's a going down / xahdrez / the edmund fitzgerald / youthmovie soundtrack strategies / help she can't swim vacuous pop, po box 289, oxford ox5 1we | www.vacuouspop.com ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From belphegore@... Wed Nov 24 19:40:11 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:40:11 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: <20041124170741.21327.qmail@...> Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, ady foley wrote: > hello, > > there has been many covers but i think this is lawnmower deth, on > earache records from around 91. Hi, I don't know them but heard the name. I'll searching at lawnmower death by Google. Thank you. From belphegore@... Wed Nov 24 22:26:13 2004 From: belphegore@... (atyourveryownrisk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:26:13 -0000 Subject: Identify tracks played by John Peel long time ago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "atyourveryownrisk" wrote: > The mentioning track isn't on the album and it's also not on the > Headache EP. My memory was at fault. Headache is obviously from Big Black. From patrick@... Thu Nov 25 00:03:31 2004 From: patrick@... (Patrick Fleming) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:03:31 -0000 Subject: RDB 23.11.04 Message-ID: <003001c4d279$d279f420$d1f6193e@pbncomputer> Hi there, I listened to RDB last night for the first time and can I say that, after a few very empty Peel-less weeks, I was genuinely heartened by the show he and the rest of the team had put out. I know that it's all not his choices, I know he'll never replace John, but I felt a little twinge of hope that we may still get to hear new stuff in the future alongside older stuff I'd never normally listen to (eg Jerry Lee Lewis - and how that track RDB played last night made me think of JP heading back to his hotel in London all those times). Give RDB a chance: I certainly will: Peel's influence lives on. Patrick From martinw@... Thu Nov 25 01:03:56 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:03:56 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Night In-Reply-To: <20041124114606.XTIU1092.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62. 253.162.61]> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041125000128.00c655b0@...> At 11:44 24/11/2004 +0000, Rob wrote: > >> there is to be a Radio 1 Peel Night on Dec 16 >> Details at >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel.shtml > >I missed this - was there any indication if this was a closed event or if >there were tickets/competition style stuff available? > Rob Da Bank said tonight that there won't be any tickets as the place will be full with band members Also he has emphasised a couple of times tonight that he's only there until Christmas - which may imply that he's now been told that they may have other plans afterwards martinw From festive50@... Thu Nov 25 01:20:21 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:20:21 -0000 Subject: [peel] RDB 23.11.04 and more besides In-Reply-To: <003001c4d279$d279f420$d1f6193e@pbncomputer> Message-ID: I wholeheartedly agree. We should give the lad a chance. At least he, Louise and Hermeet are making a go of it under very difficult circumstances. Think about it, I don�t think there�s ever been such a precedent ie. A mere novice replacing such a giant in radio. I know that apart from the week of John�s death, when we had the tribute shows, the next 2 weeks were purely Peel�s Listings, but now aren�t we getting a compromise of tracks selected by John and from his mailbag, listeners requests and tracks selected by RDB and Hermeet. I know there have been several references to Grime (not sure what Grime is but what I�ve heard so far, I like) and �Hermeet�s Grime Dungeon� and think these have been their own selections. I thought last night�s show was very good especially that track with the sitars. After all, even John�s shows varied, ie. As they were so eclectic, and you didn�t know what was coming next, one couldn�t be expected to like all tracks to the same degree and therefore in everyone�s eyes (or should that be ears), some shows were better than others. Saying that, last night�s RDB show was up there with one of John�s good/great shows. OK that�s the music side sorted. As for personality, well I think we are witnessing an embarrassed nervousness of taking over such a monumental task (and who can blame him). Hearing him now, I cannot believe that he was �club� DJ and I feel that he is in awe of John (and thus has a lot of respect for the man) and trying to �warm� to us Peelites. Remember, that with John, it was the music that came 1st and in his early days, there were more than a few people who were possibly irritated by his delivery and who could overcome this irritation just to get to the music. Remember, John had 37 years to develop the persona that was PEEL. OK, some might say he doesn�t have the �love� of music that Peel had. How do we know that? After all, if you tuned into just a few Peel shows for the 1st time, you�ll hear a great choice of tracks and maybe the odd hint of this �love�. To actually come to the true realisation, you would have to extend this period. We all know it to be fact because most of us are long-term listeners and have heard numerous interviews by him. So once again, give RDB a chance, because after all, if we don�t support him (till at least Christmas) and the ratings drop, then �The Suits� step in and the program style gets dropped and then what do we get? Festive 50 Let�s give John an FF to be proud of. The 2002 one was dreadful and one could feel John cringe at the thought of playing some of the tracks. I counted 17 tracks, which I could have heard on XFM, which is a local (London) radio station that�s well past its heyday and/or in the charts. I felt that if any more FF�s came up with similar tracks, he would have dropped the FF altogether. I must admit when I heard it, I felt that it was derived from non-regular listeners and/or people who� ve totally missed the point of the show. I must confess, when I vote, I also try to be eclectic and never vote for more than 1 in any genre/artist. This may seem contrived but my favourite FF�s are the diverse ones containing Melt Banana alongside Laura Cantrell alongside the Fall. So let�s keep it (it being the FF) Peel. Just a few thoughts. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Fleming [mailto:patrick@...] Sent: 24 November 2004 23:04 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] RDB 23.11.04 Hi there, I listened to RDB last night for the first time and can I say that, after a few very empty Peel-less weeks, I was genuinely heartened by the show he and the rest of the team had put out. I know that it's all not his choices, I know he'll never replace John, but I felt a little twinge of hope that we may still get to hear new stuff in the future alongside older stuff I'd never normally listen to (eg Jerry Lee Lewis - and how that track RDB played last night made me think of JP heading back to his hotel in London all those times). Give RDB a chance: I certainly will: Peel's influence lives on. Patrick Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From newswire@... Thu Nov 25 03:33:11 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 02:33:11 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] RDB 23.11.04 and more besides References: Message-ID: <41A54467.000003.24281@T3O2M9> Yeah Rob is doing a good job. He's kept me listening anyway. The Dance stuff he plays is spot on and the Indie stuff is good enough to be going on with. He seems to play a bit more reggae than John, but over all the balance is about the same. I think he's doing ok. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/25/04 00:21:48 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] RDB 23.11.04 and more besides I wholeheartedly agree. We should give the lad a chance. At least he, Louise and Hermeet are making a go of it under very difficult circumstances. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iangwilson@... Thu Nov 25 10:51:58 2004 From: iangwilson@... (Ian Wilson) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:51:58 +0000 Subject: Autobiography.... In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041125000128.00c655b0@...> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041125000128.00c655b0@...> Message-ID: <7b3563a04112501514043f77d@...> ...to be published next Autumn. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4038323.stm Ian From martinw@... Thu Nov 25 13:49:52 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:49:52 +0000 Subject: [peel] Autobiography.... In-Reply-To: <7b3563a04112501514043f77d@...> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041125000128.00c655b0@...> <4.3.2.7.2.20041125000128.00c655b0@...> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041125124919.00c69b90@...> At 09:51 25/11/2004 +0000, you wrote: > >...to be published next Autumn. > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4038323.stm > > >Ian > Must be ghost written !!! martinw From rockerq@... Thu Nov 25 20:59:55 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:59:55 EST Subject: [peel] Autobiography.... Message-ID: <1b9.76cc7af.2ed793bb@...> << Must be ghost written !!! >> Ho Ho Ho ...or maybe "pig written" - I for one think that would be a great idea, if she can face doing it - after all, who else would the great man have trusted with it? Cheers! Rocker PS for those who streamed the dutch radio tribute, I was one of the promoters at the dangerously full Bristol 1986 halfmanhalfbiscuit gig referred to, and he'd have been welcome to stay on my floor but he never asked! From luxuria68@... Fri Nov 26 11:02:16 2004 From: luxuria68@... (Ivan) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:02:16 -0000 Subject: Memories from South East Asia In-Reply-To: <060e01c4befb$89fd63d0$a3832652@yourcmnwt84cv8> Message-ID: Fantastic memoir from Trevor Dann! Brings back all those great memories of 21 years ago when I discovered Peelie through the wonderful BBC World Service. At the time, I was absolutely bored to death with having to listen to the only local radio station in good old "Surprising Singapore" whose programming ranged from moldy oldies like Matt Munro to Top 40 fare like fishnet-era Madonna and the occasional ray-of-sunshine of a Police track! So, imagine my great surprise and excitement one day when I chanced upon a daytime broadcast of John Peel's World Service programme while twiddling the tuning knob in search of something interesting one fateful day in 1983! I was absolutely thrilled to bits hearing all these strange and wonderful noises being played by bands with equally strange and wonderful names like the Inca Babies, Microdisney, The Wolfgang Press, The Bomb Party, Half Man Half Biscuit... and who can forget the Frank Chickens! In just one half-hour, Peelie had saved me from teenage hell! I was hooked and my life was never the same again. For the next ten years or so, I became a regular devotee to all of his World Service slots, even the repeat broadcasts! John was THE MAN who introduced me to such greats as Joy Division, Buzzcocks, the Smiths and of course, the mighty Fall! My interest in his show reached such feverish heights that for every show I caught, I would make sure to scribble down the names of every band or artist (as well as their respective song and album titles) that John would introduce! For me, one of the best things about John, was that occasionally he would take the trouble to actually read out some of the letters I wrote him on the air! I was so ecstatic at the thought of my name being spoken to thousands (if not millions) of people around the world as John read out my letters! The highest point of my listening experience with John was circa 1991 or '92 when I heard John play my request for Magazine's "Shot By Both Sides" as a dedication to the then emerging -- though already fast fragmenting -- alternative music scene in Singapore. It really made feel on top of the world when some of my mates in the scene told me they heard it at the time, too! But as with all teenage kicks, my religious dedication to John's show soon waned with the advent of the duties and responsibilities of my burgeoning young adulthood. I stopped being a regular listener when I was about 23 years old when I became bogged down by the drudgery and demands of the grown up working world. By then, it was becoming very hard to keep tuning in to his WS show, as it was either being broadcast during the times I was working (4.30pm Singapore time) or during the the wee hours of the morning (1.30am!) But my love for Peelie and his inimitable dry humour and incredible choice of music never really waned. From time to time during the last few years, I would chance upon one of his broadcasts and I must say that it seemed and sounded like the man had never really aged in all these past 20 years or since that one fateful afternoon for me in 1983. It was truly amazing that after all these years, the man still found the time and energy to continue discovering and promoting new bands and artists with such indefatiguable passion! And so it was with great irony and personal devastation when I learned one morning in November 2004 through the latest incarnation of that dreadfully mediocre Singapore radio station that John Peel had died! Just imagine the news of the death of your all-time favourite Radio DJ being revealed as the subject of a radio call-in contest on the very radio station that was so dire back in 1983 and was and still dire now in 2004! I was stunned at the news and my heart sank. The first thoughts running through my mind then were, "Who's going to point the way where pop music is heading now?" and "Will we ever get to hear other DJs spouting such wonderful gems of wit as only Peelie could?" Of course, and alas, my answers to these questions were, "Nevermore!" Be that as it may, all I really want to say is, "Thank you very much John for saving my life from mediocrity and helping to instil in me a broadminded approach not only in my appreciation of music, but also in all other aspects of life like art, social issues and politics. You may be gone in the flesh, but your spirit lives on in my heart. Goodbye and thanks for all lovely nights spent in the 80's with my head held close to the tinny speaker of my dinky clock radio, hanging on to every word you said." - Ivan Thomasz Telok Blangah Crescent Singapore --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "Nigel U" wrote: > Memories of a free spirit > John Peel was a broadcasting legend. But his colleague Trevor Dann remembers him as a friend, a family man and a lifelong Liverpool supporter > 29 October 2004 > > > It was like meeting the Pope, or at least the Maharishi. There we were, my friend Alan and I, two 15-year-olds queuing up to greet the great man, our hero, our mentor, our spiritual guide. As fervent listeners to the pirate Radio London, we'd learnt everything from John Peel. > > We recorded The Beatles' Sergeant Pepper album when he played it all the way through without speaking. We'd gazed at the stars when he told us to, and thought good thoughts so we could change the world. He'd introduced us to Captain Beefheart, Jefferson Airplane and The Doors. > > And yet here was the apotheosis of counterculture opening a summer garden-party at a girls' school in rural Derbyshire. He was in late Sixties uniform - the tie-dye T-shirt, cotton loons and plimsolls - while the school governors and the parents buzzed around in their suits and twinsets, clucking disapprovingly. Years later, he blinked in that beguiling way he had and told me why he'd gone there. "Well, Trevor, when you're on board a ship with nothing but blokes for company, an invitation to visit a girls' school is, er, quite irresistible." > > He signed my copy of the programme for the fête that day - "Love & peace, John Peel". I treasured it, and still do. But he was dismissive when I took it into Radio 1 a decade or so later. By then, I was a new radio producer and he was the venerable BBC institution who'd renounced hippiedom and embraced the energy and attitude of punk. "I used to talk a lot of bollocks in those days," he said. > > John and I didn't get off to the best start at Radio 1. In my first week, I went up to the Broadcasting House continuity suite where he presented his late-night show and asked if I could watch. I didn't know that he hated what he called "broadcasting in a zoo". To make amends I got him a coffee and placed it on the desk as he leant to one side to cue up a record. As he straightened up his elbow knocked the coffee all over the faders, necessitating a rapid switch to the next studio. > > Minutes later, his wife arrived. Cue another howler. "You must be Shirley," I ventured. They both laughed. I felt very uncomfortable. "No, this is Sheila," Peel said. But why had my simple mistake had such an effect? Some days later, he explained that Shirley was the name of his first wife, an American woman who Peel always claimed had beaten him up and then pursued him to Britain, where he was taking refuge with Sheila. > > One of the few consolations of the tragic news from Peru this week was that Sheila was there with him. He was devoted to the Pig, as he always called her, and he wore a silver ring with a pig on it. In fact, I think John defined himself more as parent and husband than a broadcaster. In spite of his acid tongue, he was a sentimental man who'd blub at the drop of a hat, especially at family successes. > > It was one of the many contradictions in Peel's life that the man who sought out angry, urban music in some of the seedier inner-city clubs lived an idyllic rural life in an isolated Suffolk cottage. >From the splendidly named Nan Trues Hole - truly John's bolt hole - no other building is visible. In recent years, the BBC allowed him to broadcast his show via an ISDN line from home. He began to sound like the religious leader he was to so many of us, letting fall his pearls of wisdom from a musical Eden. > > In 1983, I produced "the Peel show", as it was always called, for a few months before leaving for television. I made one change. John Walters and Chris Lycett, my predecessors, had allowed Peel to choose all his own music, but they had retained the right to assemble the tracks into a running order. In some cases, this amounted to no more than finding two songs with the same word in the title and putting them together so John could do a DJ-style link. Which, of course, he never did. So I suggested that he should do the running order in future. He looked at me with the grateful eyes of a kid meeting Santa and thanked me as effusively as if I'd given him a new toy. > > I loved the opening to his show in those days. In would come the low dum-da-dum of Grinderswitch's "Picking the Blues", and after the slide guitar figure we'd be treated to the usual litany of awkward and unpronounceable band names. Regular listeners may have noticed that, for pure devilment, John would sometimes trail a band who didn't exist - "... and the Flying Creamshots in session". He'd seen the phrase in a Dutch porno mag. > > He loved Holland, and regularly hosted the Pink Pop Festival. He claimed that the Dutch liked him because his name translates as John Prick. Like many of John's anecdotes it may not have been strictly true, but somehow details like that never mattered. It was just a joy to listen to his fund of stories. Life had a knack of happening to John. He always cast himself as the unworldly ingénue at large in a cruel and unforgiving world. > > Also in 1983, Radio 1 was staging a week's programming from Liverpool and someone suggested that Peel and I should make an introductory show about his home city. Persuading him to depart from the safety of the studio was a nightmare, but once he'd agreed (with the condition that his daughter and her teenage Goth friend could accompany us), he created a magical programme. > > From the passenger seat of our hired car, he guided the two girls and me around the streets of Liverpool, pointing out the key landmarks of his early life. "That's where I saw my first gig. Eddie Cochran wasn't it, oh no, it was the Obernkirchen Children's Choir singing 'Val deri, val dera'!" And: "There's the Royal Insurance where brother Frank works." And: "That's the train that takes the rich people to Heswall." > > And thence to Anfield, home of his beloved Liverpool FC. He took me on the Kop - all standing and swaying in those days - and I recorded his thoughts and reactions to an FA Cup tie against unfancied Brighton. Liverpool famously lost that day, so I got nothing at all out of John except a few grunts, and nothing from the Kop characters apart from a wet trouser-leg thanks to the inebriated Scouser behind me who couldn't be bothered to fight his way to the gents. > > The following morning we met Kenny Dalglish, Peel's absolute hero, for a pre-arranged interview. Dalglish gave the usual pat footballer's answers to some questions about the game, and Peel was still so depressed about the match that he couldn't bring himself to conduct a proper interview. In the end I had to ask the questions, and we dubbed in some commentary later. > > That Merseyside expedition was also notable for the teenage scally John had found to talk to us about being young in Liverpool in the Eighties. We met on an estate in a pub that I thought was called The Chester, but turned out be The Jester. And we listened to tales of burglary, football violence and routine drug-use from a thoroughly engaging lad I thought no more of until I saw The Farm singing "All Together Now" on Top of the Pops. It was Peter Hooton, their lead singer. Once again, Peel the talent-spotter had been ahead of his time. > > He liked to use a football metaphor when talking about his appetite for new music. Of course he was proud of Liverpool FC's championships and European Cups, but "I'm much more interested in what happens on Saturday". He found something life-affirming in the quest for novelty and the refusal to look back. > > When I was producing his Radio 1 show, I asked him to play the occasional old record to help to introduce his young audience to some of the acts he had championed in the past. I argued that Smiths fans might be interested in Van Morrison or Tim Buckley if they were introduced to them by John Peel. But he would have none of it. The two hours of airtime he had every day were too precious to devote to anything other than the latest sounds from the streets, pubs and bedrooms, and from teenage Britain. > > In the Eighties, I was asked to write a profile of John for a newspaper. He was a reluctant interviewee, but I managed to cobble together what I thought was a reasonable piece. When it appeared, though, he was cross with me for drawing attention to his love of driving. He didn't think it was a big part of his life, even though he spent hours at the wheel and refused to fly until only a few years ago. > > I'd spent hours debating with him the fastest way to London from Suffolk. I was an advocate of the A10; he preferred the A505 right round Royston to the A1. For weeks, he would keep me informed of various time trials he'd done using different routes, all proving that he was right in the first place. How silly that we should waste so much time on something so trivial, but that was John; once the bee was in the bonnet, it just kept buzzing. > > The Peel/Walters office at Egton House, the old home of Radio 1, was a shambles, hung with Christmas cards from decades earlier and packed to the ceiling with tapes and vinyl. Walters was the untidiest man in the BBC, and would never have survived in the era of open-plan offices. Peel and their faithful secretary Sue (known as Brian, in a spiffing chaps' wheeze kind of way) kept on at him, but nothing changed. > > So John had to sit on his record case or the floor because there was no room for a chair. This became even more ludicrous when John had one of his famous early evening naps. The door would closegently, and the greatest living DJ would snore through two hours, wrapped around a desk leg, a bin and a pile of NMEs. > > When I arrived back at Radio 1 in 1995 as the head of production, with a brief to overhaul the music policy and the on-air sound of the station, Peel was as comfortable as I'd ever seen him with the BBC management. The pop'n'prattlers were on their way out, and the new controller, Matthew Bannister, had endeared himself to Peel by making all sorts of public statements about his support for new music. I remember Peel and Andy Kershaw talking about Bannister on the radio and saying: "Well, we're safe - one day Radio 1 will sound like our shows all day long." > > But John's unease with management resurfaced when the axe started to fall on people he liked. He got quite angry with me about the departure of one producer he was particularly fond of, and he took on the mantle of a stubborn trade-union leader arguing, in effect, that all change at Radio 1 was a bad thing. Underneath that friendly grumpy-old-man exterior lurked a genuine grumpy old man. > > When asked about his favourite record in the 1970s, he used to talk about Link Wray's dirty and foreboding guitar solo "Rumble" and T Rex's "Ride a White Swan". He delighted in the story that when Marc Bolan made No 1 for the first time, Peel had been driving in his car and had to pull over on to the hard shoulder as his eyes filled with tears. > > But for many years his choice of best record ever was "Teenage Kicks" by The Undertones, I think because it reminded him of what music is there for. Once he'd kicked the somnambulism of the acid and dope years and rediscovered beer (he always credited The Faces for re- energising him in the early Seventies), he espoused music that celebrated youth and vigour. > > John Peel won hundreds of awards. But he was a genuinely reluctant celebrity; he hated what fame did to people and he had no truck with the insincerity of showbiz hangers-on. In fact, I've no doubt that if he knew that I, or indeed anyone outside a close circle of family and friends, was writing about him, he'd be coming after me with a meat cleaver. I can hear him saying so. > > I was in Berlin when I heard the shocking news of John's death. Even the teletext in my hotel room put the news on their front page, which gives some indication of his worldwide reputation. Since Tuesday morning when the news broke (although it had been embargoed until 2pm), I've received dozens of texts and e-mails from friends who've been touched by the great man. One came from an old friend I haven't seen in more than 20 years. "You told me so many funny, warm stories about John," she wrote, "that I felt I knew him a bit, too, and I was thrilled when he gave me a big smile and a good morning in Diss last April." John had that effect on people. He made you feel better. > > He became a broadcasting icon because he had no artifice, no style, no shtick. What you got the across the table at an Indian restaurant was what you got on the radio: passion, honesty and an understated facility for language. Younger broadcasters described as the new John Peel have come and gone for 40 years, but the original was always the best. > > Trevor Dann was a producer, and later head of production, at Radio 1 From stuart@... Fri Nov 26 12:25:47 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:25:47 +0000 Subject: Peel tribute show In-Reply-To: <1101465265.161.48744.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1101465265.161.48744.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Like many radio stations, WXYC in Carolina did a Peel-oriented show a couple of weeks ago. Unlike many, this - apparently - has a Ken Garner interview embedded somewhere within the 3 hours. Note that I've not actually listened to it yet, so any intrepid listeners might be able to let us know... it is downloadable as a 169Mb (!) Mp3 so those with plenty bandwidth but less time could chip away at in bite-sized listens. http://www.wxyc.org/tnf/peel.html (any comments to the DJ, archiemcfly@...) Stuart -- From robert.ayres@... Fri Nov 26 11:13:03 2004 From: robert.ayres@... (Robert Ayres) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:13:03 -0000 Subject: RDB and Peel links/intros References: <1101381270.464.76472.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <005801c4d3ab$f0a91e20$28c5e150@technomadik> From: "Phil Edwards" So once again, give RDB a chance, because after all, if we don't support him (till at least Christmas) and the ratings drop, then "The Suits" step in and the program style gets dropped and then what do we get? I agree with Phil but think that RDB is too far removed from the music for him to be considered as an adequate Peel replacement. RDB's comment last night "don't blame me, I only play the records" after playing a terrific and very weird Grandmaster Gareth tune sums it up for me. I have listened to his show several times and have enjoyed the music but its obvious that he is merely playing tracks that are predominantly chosen for him. Well done to Louise and Hermeet for keeping the Peel vibe alive: I believe they are the true holders of the Peel Flame; but nice chap though he may be RDB is simply not into Peel Music enough. John Peel had many fine and human qualities but he was also a consumate professional in his dedication and love for music. He was our teacher and gave us an appreciation of many types of off-centre music, he was the antithesis of Radio 1 mainstream mentality and got away with it. The sheer volume of music he waded through, filtered and featured was an immense task. He cared so much about the music, so delighted in treating his audience to astounding new sounds, and he championed so many artists - he was genuine in his desire to help them. And so, for me, the most pertinent difference between RDB and 'the real thing' is most obviously manifested in RDB's lack of knowledge of, and interest in, the music he is playing. John would habitually give a lot of information about the tracks he featured: the names of the band members, the record label, the mail order/web address if it was not widely available, etc. This is why the current format of the John Peel show is so weird and also unsustainable: RDB is merely a presenter and not a passionate advocate of the music he is playing. But let's also not forget one of John's other superb attributes: his often fantastic links/intros between tracks. A corker from a show C.1993 goes something like: "and if you aren't already familiar with the music of Papa (name of an African artist) then you should have your body hairs removed one by one over a three week period... but have you heard of Papa (name of another African artist)?" Cue African record. Has anyone else got any other good Peel links/intros they can share with the group? Robert From dbarrell@... Fri Nov 26 13:51:23 2004 From: dbarrell@... (Daniel Barrell) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:51:23 +0000 Subject: World Service show 19/11 Message-ID: <41A726CB.40802@...> Does anyone have a copy of last weeks WS show? Just went onto 'listen again' but, of course, it's been replaced with this morning's show. I'd really appreciate it if anyone did. Cheers Dan From martinw@... Fri Nov 26 20:46:56 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:46:56 +0000 Subject: [peel] Peel tribute show In-Reply-To: References: <1101465265.161.48744.m12@yahoogroups.com> <1101465265.161.48744.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041126194202.02dbde28@...> At 11:25 26/11/2004 +0000, you wrote: > >Like many radio stations, WXYC in Carolina did a Peel-oriented show a >couple of weeks ago. >Unlike many, this - apparently - has a Ken Garner interview embedded >somewhere within the 3 hours. Note that I've not actually listened to >it yet, so any intrepid listeners might be able to let us know... it >is downloadable as a 169Mb (!) Mp3 so those with plenty bandwidth but >less time could chip away at in bite-sized listens. > >http://www.wxyc.org/tnf/peel.html (any comments to the DJ, >archiemcfly@...) > >Stuart I've downloaded it and skimmed through it. It seems to be mostly talk rather than just music (I wouldn't like to comment on the legality of some of the clips they use!) It really is a detailed overview of John's career and I would certainly recommend it as one to add to your collection of Peel related shows. Give it a listen and after the first ten minutes I'm sure you'll decide you want it. martiwn From luxuria68@... Sat Nov 27 09:18:41 2004 From: luxuria68@... (Ivan) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:18:41 -0000 Subject: Recorded Broadcasts of Peel on the Internet Message-ID: Can someone please tell me where I can access streaming audio of any of Peel's recorded broadcasts on the Internet? Thanks a lot. From john.bravin@... Sat Nov 27 11:34:01 2004 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:34:01 +0100 Subject: [peel] WXYC Peel tribute show References: <1101465265.161.48744.m12@yahoogroups.com> <1101465265.161.48744.m12@yahoogroups.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20041126194202.02dbde28@...> Message-ID: <001201c4d46c$9cdb7100$0100a8c0@...> This tribute show is very different from many in that it features clips from the early years. There is some Beefheart, an excellent Tim Buckley session track and the intro to the first Led Zeppelin session. In his tribute in Word magazine, Mark Ellen makes the point that Peel had four professional accents over his career (bone china minor royal, Liverpool friend of the Beatles, fey effete prince of hippiedom, and laconic classless mid-tempo rumble). Listening to him reading poetry in the 60s it is amazing how different he sounded in those days. And listening to this show I'm still impressed by two things - firstly that there was a three hour Peel tribute show on a radio station in North Carolina (three hours?, North Carolina?, he never even had a show there), and secondly that these days it's possible to listen to it (and the other similar shows) anywhere in the world via the Internet. Amid the debate about what the BBC will do with the Peel show I'm sure the future lies outside the terrestrial broadcasters. I know not everyone has broadband yet, but within a few years there will be an explosion in audiences for internet stations that provide an everyday alternative to the stations like the BBC. The challenge will be finding the right one amid the thousands out there. When Peel was the only programme in Britain it was easy to make that choice, nowadays there are so many alternatives playing a similar mix (albeit none so far that approach Peel's delivery and innovation). But it is still fun discovering new ones - like Laura Cantrell's Radio Thrift Shop (which broadcasts every Saturday afternoon from 12:00-3:00 P.M. on WFMU 91.1 FM in Jersey City, N.J., and Real Audio streaming at www.WFMU.org) and KPIG on http://www.kpig.com/ Just like in the late seventies when anyone with a guitar and a garage could form a band, there is now the opportunity for anyone with talent and a dream to start a radio station. I'm sure Peel would have embraced this idea - no longer are aspiring DJs dependent on the whim of stations like the BBC. I remember Johnnie Walker once saying his dream was to be able to play music that he loved unconstrained by playlists to a captive audience in a institution like a prison. I guess this is now possible to anyone with the vision, the energy and a PC. John >Like many radio stations, WXYC in Carolina did a Peel-oriented show a >couple of weeks ago. Note that I've not actually listened to >it yet, so any intrepid listeners might be able to let us know... it >is downloadable as a 169Mb (!) Mp3 so those with plenty bandwidth but >less time could chip away at in bite-sized listens. > >http://www.wxyc.org/tnf/peel.html (any comments to the DJ, >archiemcfly@...) From mar.celle@... Sun Nov 28 12:23:15 2004 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:23:15 +0100 Subject: peel on Another Nice Mess Message-ID: <002201c4d53c$a84896a0$5c1379c3@3> Dear all, I'm trying to sort out my 25 years of Peel reel to reels/ tapes/cassettes/minidiscs and have decided to play excerpts of them on my weekly radio show Another Nice Mess on Radio 100 in Amsterdam. You can listen to it live online: it's on monday between 19 and 20 PM DUTCH time, so I guess that would be between 18 and 19 hours UK time. My program has always been (a poor girl's) sort of ''Peel show'' in that i always try to play as much new exciting music from various genres/sources as possible so you might enjoy something else (apart from the peel excerpts) as well.... Go to: www.radio100.nl click on Live Stream love, Marcelle From gpwebster@... Sun Nov 28 23:19:34 2004 From: gpwebster@... (hammieweb) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:19:34 -0000 Subject: Autobiography CD? Message-ID: I remember John, when talking about the autobiograhy, mentioned that he hoped to compile a CD which would be attached to the front. I don't think he was going to include too many of the obvious favourites but some of the rare gems that were otherwise hard to get hold of. Does anyone know if this is still going ahead (or can anyone find out?!). I do hope so as I was looking forward to hearing what he would have put on it (as well as reading his book of course!). Actually a whole set of John's faves wouldn't go a miss - you know Various Artists "Peelesque Vol 1,2,3 etc..." I also rather suspect John would love writing the tracklisting before starting the book itself! Keep It Peel Graham From iaparkin@... Mon Nov 29 01:26:14 2004 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:26:14 -0000 Subject: Just uploaded a snippet from the BBC TV 60th Special for John's Birthday Message-ID: It is to be found in the FILES section. It is approx 1.8 MB and is in Realmedia 9 format encoded at 100kb/s. A couple of snippets of John plus Teenage Kicks performance. IAP From iaparkin@... Mon Nov 29 01:30:43 2004 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:30:43 -0000 Subject: Just uploaded a snippet from the BBC TV 60th Special for John's Birthday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to clarify, this is taken from the BBC TV special to celebrate John's 60th Birthday. Aired as BBC2's John Peel Night - Sunday 29th August 1999. IAP From newswire@... Tue Nov 30 01:13:18 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:13:18 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] WXYC Peel tribute show References: <001201c4d46c$9cdb7100$0100a8c0@...> Message-ID: <41ABBB1E.000001.06099@T3O2M9> Kpig isn't free. I don't think I agree with paying radio. Sorry to be so left wing but that's just me. WMFU is very good though and the audio quality is excellent too. Good link. -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/27/04 10:33:15 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] WXYC Peel tribute show When Peel was the only programme in Britain it was easy to make that choice, nowadays there are so many alternatives playing a similar mix (albeit none so far that approach Peel's delivery and innovation). But it is still fun discovering new ones - like Laura Cantrell's Radio Thrift Shop (which broadcasts every Saturday afternoon from 12:00-3:00 P.M. on WFMU 91.1 FM in Jersey City, N.J., and Real Audio streaming at www.WFMU.org) and KPIG on http://www.kpig.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From todsy94@... Tue Nov 30 20:03:43 2004 From: todsy94@... (arclight2525) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:03:43 -0000 Subject: There is a light that never goes out Message-ID: Glad to have found this group. A month gone and I still very sad about John's death. I realised this last night when I finally felt enough time had passed for me to be able to watch the BBC2 tribute without feeling too sad. I was wrong, couldn't get to the end. And I still can't listen to late night radio. My older punk sister suggested I started listening to his show back in the early 1980's. What a magical musical universe I found myself in. Shaped my entire life. The first time John played me the likes of the Cocteau Twins, The Jesus & Marychain, The Smiths and many, many more was as good as falling in love. I still have the Jesus & Marychain's debut session - with John Peel's introduction and comments - on tape. I'll treasure that forever. Year's later I wrote a book 'The working class Fever Pitch' and sent it to John when in it's handwritten first draft. Sure enough several weeks later he rang me with encouraging feedback that inspired me to continue with it. A year later it was published. Thanks for everything John Peel