From dj_oldwood@... Wed Dec 1 10:46:23 2004 From: dj_oldwood@... (dj_oldwood) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:46:23 -0000 Subject: There is a light that never goes out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "arclight2525" wrote: > > Glad to have found this group. A month gone and I still very sad > about John's death. Yes, I feel the same and am sure many others do too. While the feeling of shock has gone the feeling of loss will endure. I only found this group recently too and it's been good reading others thoughts, especially as I don't know anyone else who shares my taste in music or more than a passing interest in John's death. To my own surprise I have found myself listening to more music in the last month than probably the last six, must be the way I've found to cope I suppose. I have also spent loads more too on new stuff that he played in the last few shows. Also I have started to pick out more or less at random one of the many old tapes I have - I never thought I'd have time to listen to them, so quick and fast came new tracks to tape and hear. Last night I played one from 1990 with a session by MC 900 Foot Jesus and Ill Tip by Silk X Leather amongst others - I'd forgotten all them to be honest but they still sounded good! Lots been said about Rob da Bank's show and that it's mainly living off tracks JP had already "starred". What saddens me is how many new things we've already missed in the last month that he would have played. I am going to have to work a lot harder now to find good new stuff rather than rely on JP - there's loads of good dance music web sites which have short clips you can listen too but that's just one field, I am going to need to check out the various internet radio shows previous posts have mentioned as well. From penarth2002@... Wed Dec 1 12:02:12 2004 From: penarth2002@... (egdirdle2001) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:02:12 -0000 Subject: I have many Peel Show tapes Message-ID: They dayte from January 1981 up to about 1987 then theres a massive drop off ( a few around 1991 ) They pick up again in 1998 until I decided to tape my last show around September - how ironic. The 80s tapes have his voice cut out but the 98 - 2004 shows have all his links. They are heavily edited best ofs. 1981 - 1987 CONSISTS OF ABOUT 4 HOURS MUSIC PER MONTH. whoops Not looking to let them go but someone may be looking for long lost tracks or sessions. If I can help with any questions I will answer them on here, if not then I won't reply. That might save us all some time. I also did a feature on "Home Truths" in Aug 2003 ( The worst cricket team in South Wales ) Well...that killed some time. All rather sad really Cheers From robfleay@... Wed Dec 1 13:33:43 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:33:43 +0000 Subject: Family to finish Biog Message-ID: <20041201123537.TWKW3407.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62.253.162.61]> Family to finish Peel biog (Wednesday December 01, 2004 12:00 AM) John Peel's family will complete the writing of his autobiography. As previously reported, the DJ signed a �1.6million deal with publishers Transworld in April 2003 for the rights to his life story. At the time of his death last month he had complete only 50,000 words, about half the book. Peel's widow Sheila said: "We thought long and hard about what we should do with John's autobiography." "This book was very important to him and he was very excited about writing it." She said it would be a "terrible waste" if his writing to date went unpublished and that she and his children will contribute "biographical material and personal reminiscences." Transworld managing director Larry Finlay said they were aiming to "publish the book that I know John himself would have wanted." Orion Books published the unauthorised "John Peel: A Tribute To The Hugely Popular DJ And Broadcaster" by Mick Wall on Friday [November 25]. Michael O'Mara Books followed with "John Peel: A Life In Music" by Michael Heatley yesterday [November 30]. The official John Peel biography is expected to be published in October 2005. ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From npu65@... Wed Dec 1 22:58:25 2004 From: npu65@... (Nigel U) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:58:25 -0000 Subject: [peel] Family to finish Biog References: <20041201123537.TWKW3407.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62.253.162.61]> Message-ID: <075c01c4d7f0$e1cc1df0$a3832652@yourcmnwt84cv8> I reckon I'll wait for the official version then, as the timing of the Wall and Heatley offerings leave a bad taste in the mouth though if they hadn't, somebody else would have. Shame, but there you go. N ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: [peel] Family to finish Biog > > Family to finish Peel biog > (Wednesday December 01, 2004 12:00 AM) > > John Peel's family will complete the writing of his autobiography. > > As previously reported, the DJ signed a �1.6million deal with publishers > Transworld in April 2003 for the rights to his life story. > > At the time of his death last month he had complete only 50,000 words, > about half the book. > > Peel's widow Sheila said: "We thought long and hard about what we should > do with John's autobiography." > > "This book was very important to him and he was very excited about writing > it." > > She said it would be a "terrible waste" if his writing to date went > unpublished and that she and his children will contribute "biographical > material and personal reminiscences." > > Transworld managing director Larry Finlay said they were aiming to > "publish the book that I know John himself would have wanted." > > Orion Books published the unauthorised "John Peel: A Tribute To The Hugely > Popular DJ And Broadcaster" by Mick Wall on Friday [November 25]. > > Michael O'Mara Books followed with "John Peel: A Life In Music" by Michael > Heatley yesterday [November 30]. > > The official John Peel biography is expected to be published in October > 2005. > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 30/11/2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 30/11/2004 From cynicaldj@... Thu Dec 2 00:36:46 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:36:46 -0000 Subject: Rob on the Peel Programme. Message-ID: Hello All, Just to add my comments to the ongoing issue of Rob replacing John and what we all think of him. As we have all stated, he must be given a chance, however there are two factors to his Presentation style that do irk me, both of which were re-enforced last night. 1. He either has deep suspicions or has actually been told that he IS only temporary and that he won't be doing the Programme next year. 2. He doesn't come across as enjoying the Music as much as John, nor I suspect, is it as important to him. He made the first comment regarding his attempt at pronouncing a Welsh Bands' name and said words to the affect of "...next year you'll have someone who can pronounce these words better than me...". His second comment came in responding to a Listener's E-Mail or Text, that they were having an argument over a piece of Music they heard played, which he sounded genuinely aghast at and made some comment along the lines of "...oh, come on, it's only Music...", which didn't come across to me as being in jest. Before you think I am being too picky, let me sum up: I think he is a decent bloke who makes a good job of doing what he is employed to do, but not being a permanent Presenter of the Peel Programme. To me, he doesn't sound like he is enjoying it enough himself? Anyway, that's my 10 pence worth! Cheers. P.S. Phil (Festive Fifty), I still haven't heard from you? http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ From newswire@... Thu Dec 2 00:58:14 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:58:14 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] Rob on the Peel Programme. References: Message-ID: <41AE5A96.000001.38759@T3O2M9> I haven't formed an opinion of Rob yet. I sometimes think he is in a very drty jest rather than being serious. But on your one point, I'm sure I heard him say words to the effect that new demos should no longer be sent to the peel address but instead to something like onemusic. That seems to suggest that they don't want Rob receiving music exclusively as Peely did. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martinw@... Thu Dec 2 02:14:57 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 01:14:57 +0000 Subject: [peel] Rob on the Peel Programme. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041202005928.00c67388@...> At 23:36 01/12/2004 +0000, cynicaldj wrote: >1. He either has deep suspicions or has actually been told that he IS >only temporary and that he won't be doing the Programme next year. > I agree with this. My guess for what it is worth is as follows. The show at present is deliberately the Peel Show but without Peel. This is going to continue to Christmas. After the Festive Fifty shows a line will be drawn and a new evening lineup will appear with a completely new show. I have no idea who will present it or if it will be eclectic programming or something much more tightly defined. We will have to wait and see and keep our fingers crossed that it is something reasonable I don't think it is fair to judge Rob on the pseudo-Peel shows since he has a very tight brief and I'm sure doesn't like some of the records he's been required to play in the last few weeks.. As some one who listened to him regularly on Blue Room I know he does have a wide taste in music - it's just not the same as Peel's was although it overlaps in some areas. It's unfair to say he is not interested in music - this year he even organised a music festival - most of the acts were Breezeblock-style dance acts and it's the indie end of things that he struggles with.. His style of presenting is much the some on Blue Room as it has been on Peel - self-deprecating and ironic. The things he says shouldn't always be taken literally martinw From ajcauk@... Fri Dec 3 01:00:22 2004 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:00:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: the fall at bristol In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041202005928.00c67388@...> Message-ID: <20041203000022.84091.qmail@...> i think that the wevie de crepon 'Ton Wah Uk' track that annie nightingale played last week is the most interesting thing in the last 3 months did Peelie catch wind of it and/or play it i am going to see the fall at bristol on friday to keep the faith i'll be going for the oldest person there free cd or something and to jitter of course ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From vicarage@... Fri Dec 3 01:47:13 2004 From: vicarage@... (Jon) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 00:47:13 -0000 Subject: shellac Message-ID: If anyone is recording the Shellac peel session tonight and would be prepared to do me a CD I would be most grateful! Stig From ajcauk@... Fri Dec 3 01:54:53 2004 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:54:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] shellac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041203005453.2394.qmail@...> dont forget the listen again in the next 7 days facility on the r1 website --------------------------------- If anyone is recording the Shellac peel session tonight and would be prepared to do me a CD I would be most grateful! Stig ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jt.gray@... Sun Dec 5 18:04:06 2004 From: jt.gray@... (John Gray) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:04:06 -0000 Subject: Kevin Coyne RIP In-Reply-To: <1101950293.273.7480.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Kevin died on Thursday morning, 2nd December 2004. The divine service - last party - takes place on Monday, 13th December 2004, at 12.30 h, Friedenskirche, Am Palmplatz, N�rnberg, Germany The funeral takes place on Monday, 13th December 2004, at 14.00 h, St. Johannis Friedhof, N�rnberg, Germany http://www.kevincoyne.de/News.htm John Gray From d.mckinnon@... Mon Dec 6 08:44:47 2004 From: d.mckinnon@... (McKINNON Dougal) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 07:44:47 -0000 Subject: [peel] shellac Message-ID: > If anyone is recording the Shellac peel session > tonight and would be > prepared to do me a CD I would be most grateful That goes for me too. Or alternatively if you can give advice on translating the "listen again" stuff from the Radio 1 website onto CD. I missed the session because I'd gone to see Shallac in London. dougal mckinnon senior applications developer information services Tel: 01782 294832 E-mail: d.mckinnon@... The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. From matty_w_808@... Mon Dec 6 14:03:17 2004 From: matty_w_808@... (matt wood) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:03:17 +0000 Subject: [peel] shellac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20041206125835.02d9bfc0@...> At 07:44 06/12/2004, you wrote: > > If anyone is recording the Shellac peel session > > tonight and would be > > prepared to do me a CD I would be most grateful > >That goes for me too. Or alternatively if you can give advice on >translating the "listen again" stuff from the Radio 1 website onto CD. > >I missed the session because I'd gone to see Shallac in London. > same for me too. went to see them on the thursday and when i got back, the recording i tried to set up hadn't worked. if anyone has a copy of the session (as recorded from the radio) please get in touch - it would make my day. thanks very much! From robfleay@... Mon Dec 6 16:18:04 2004 From: robfleay@... (robfleay@...) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:18:04 +0000 Subject: [peel] shellac Message-ID: <20041206152142.XCPE1092.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[62.253.162.95]> I listened via the Radio 1 website but the quality was pretty wank - Shellac on the other hand sounded brilliant - The End Of Radio was sublime So yeah - anyone got a decent recording? > > From: matt wood > Date: 2004/12/06 Mon PM 01:03:17 GMT > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [peel] shellac > > At 07:44 06/12/2004, you wrote: > > > If anyone is recording the Shellac peel session > > > tonight and would be > > > prepared to do me a CD I would be most grateful > > > >That goes for me too. Or alternatively if you can give advice on > >translating the "listen again" stuff from the Radio 1 website onto CD. > > > >I missed the session because I'd gone to see Shallac in London. > > > > same for me too. went to see them on the thursday and when i got back, the > recording i tried to set up hadn't worked. > > if anyone has a copy of the session (as recorded from the radio) please get > in touch - it would make my day. > > thanks very much! > ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ From leohilarious@... Tue Dec 7 04:56:12 2004 From: leohilarious@... (leohilarious) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 03:56:12 -0000 Subject: Looking for two (oldish) sessions Message-ID: Is there are kind soul with a pile of old session tapes that could sort through and find these two? 16/6/86 Fish City Five (Housemartins) 4/11/87 Housemartins I'm looking for the complete shows (prefer with JP intros if possible) in respectable quality. I've got partial bits on both, but I'm really hoping someone here will have them whole. Thanks for any help. Best, Leo From festive50@... Tue Dec 7 20:00:08 2004 From: festive50@... (Phil) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:00:08 -0000 Subject: Peel book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I must confess to have been tempted to buy one of these books, just in case there may have been some unknown or forgotten gems. However, my mind was made up for me when I picked up the Mick Wall book off the self at local bookshop. It consisted of 194 pages of fairly large print. The bits I read, were what most of us knew already plus tributes which we've probably all read, photos which we've all seen. This was then padded out with page after page of festive 50 lists. I don't think I'll ever be asked to go on the Booker Award Panel. Then again this book is unlikely to win any awards either. Except maybe a contender for the "Fast Buck" award. Phil --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh wrote: > Whether this will meet the 'approval' of the group I'm not sure but > I'm sure it will be of interest - a biography of John by Mick Wall. > Out in a week as far as I can tell. It's described as a 'tribute' but > I have no idea if it was always planned with its cover changed, a > work-in-progress recently completed, or something else rushed out in > time for Xmas. > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0752872125/ref=amb_asin- coop-1_151439/026-4668031-3915639 > > Stuart > -- From rlawson@... Wed Dec 8 11:52:00 2004 From: rlawson@... (CR Lawson) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:52:00 +0800 Subject: [peel] Re: Peel book References: Message-ID: <02a801c4dd13$f59e35c0$7524fea9@ibmsdgyyzatw04> Phil/Stuart I have just been passing though the UK and apart from some record shopping ....Aphrodisiacs album is great by the way .... I debated at length with myself whether to buy Mick Wall's book....in the end I did and rationalised it by saying that I have bought every music magazine with tributes to John so really the book is just the same. I have read half so far n nearly all of the quotes etc that I have read have either come from John's programmes or the 2 BBC documentaries on him....in short there is little so far which is "insightful" other than perhaps his own thoughts. I share Phil's view concerning the author and can only hope that despite making some money he genuinely was writing this as a tribute. Will await the family's official version next year. Cheers Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:00 AM Subject: [peel] Re: Peel book > > > I must confess to have been tempted to buy one of these books, just > in case there may have been some unknown or forgotten gems. > However, my mind was made up for me when I picked up the Mick Wall > book off the self at local bookshop. > It consisted of 194 pages of fairly large print. > The bits I read, were what most of us knew already plus tributes > which we've probably all read, photos which we've all seen. This was > then padded out with page after page of festive 50 lists. > I don't think I'll ever be asked to go on the Booker Award Panel. > Then again this book is unlikely to win any awards either. > Except maybe a contender for the "Fast Buck" award. > Phil > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McHugh wrote: > > Whether this will meet the 'approval' of the group I'm not sure > but > > I'm sure it will be of interest - a biography of John by Mick > Wall. > > Out in a week as far as I can tell. It's described as a 'tribute' > but > > I have no idea if it was always planned with its cover changed, a > > work-in-progress recently completed, or something else rushed out > in > > time for Xmas. > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0752872125/ref=amb_asin- > coop-1_151439/026-4668031-3915639 > > > > Stuart > > -- > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > From stuart@... Wed Dec 8 14:46:17 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:46:17 +0000 Subject: Peel book In-Reply-To: <1102512663.141.45465.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1102512663.141.45465.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: >I have just been passing though the UK and apart from some record shopping >....Aphrodisiacs album is great by the way .... I debated at length with >myself whether to buy Mick Wall's book....in the end I did and rationalised >it by saying that I have bought every music magazine with tributes to John >so really the book is just the same. > >I have read half so far n nearly all of the quotes etc that I have read >have either come from John's programmes or the 2 BBC documentaries on >him....in short there is little so far which is "insightful" other than >perhaps his own thoughts. > >I share Phil's view concerning the author and can only hope that despite >making some money he genuinely was writing this as a tribute. I spotted the non-Mick Wall book - can't recall the author name - in Fopp for £7 and had a quick thumb through. As with the Wall one it seems to be padded out at the back with Festive 50s (doubtless nicked off the web, wonder if any of our spelling mistakes have been retained!?) and a load of tributes from Tony Blair, Gaz Coombes etc, which may well have already been in the public domain. As for the biographical content, all I can recall thinking of what I saw was that I could have done it myself (if I'd been of a mind to). Most of the facts I knew already, and some of the other stuff had come to light in the various tribute documentaries on TV and in the press since his death. The biog of the author didn't suggest that it was done by a particular fan of the man or the music - the author had worked on a Guns and Roses biog, I think, and edited something like the Virgin Rock Encyclopaedia. Apologies for the vagueness in relating the contents, but as you can tell I wasn't for buying it! Stuart -- From troche@... Wed Dec 8 19:52:06 2004 From: troche@... (troche@...) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:52:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: Independent : DJ's brother attacks 'unseemly' rush of Peel biographies Message-ID: <8503877.1102531926712.JavaMail.root@...> Books > News DJ's brother attacks 'unseemly' rush of Peel biographies By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter 06 December 2004 Less than six weeks after his death, two books about John Peel, the DJ and broadcasting icon, were in the shops - just in time for the Christmas market. Now his younger brother has launched an attack on the unseemly haste of the publishers who rushed out the works to cash in on the DJ's popularity. Francis Ravenscroft, 63, who lives in Crowborough, East Sussex, said he believed the publication of both books was disgusting. He said: "The whole thing is fairly unseemly. It is really just ambulance-chasing." The books, however, have been selling well. The first biography, John Peel: A Tribute to the Hugely Popular DJ and Broadcaster, was published by Orion last month and was written by rock journalist Mick Wall, who worked with him at Radio 1 and Sounds magazine. The second book called John Peel: A Life in Music, has been written by Michael Heatley and published by Michael O'Mara Books. Heatley is another rock journalist, who has edited the Virgin Encyclopedia of Rock and has written biographies of Elton John and Justin Timberlake, among others. Mr Ravenscroft admitted he had bought Wall's book, but said: "I have just finished reading the first chapter and I am not at all impressed by what I have read so far. Even in the first chapter there are an awful lot of inaccurate and salacious things, which I find rather offensive. It has obviously been written by someone who did not know John. I shall be much more interested in reading what my brother says in his own biography, even if it is foreshortened." A spokesman for Orion, defended its book by describing it as an "affectionate tribute". He said: "When someone dies, that's when you reflect on their life. The extraordinary response to John Peel's death and the huge amount of media coverage showed in how much affection and respect he was held, and how much people want to read more about him." Michael O'Mara Books said in a statement: "Should we be ashamed of publishing the book so quickly? No more than the TV companies that have already shown documentaries or the newspapers and magazines that printed special features." Transworld, due to publish Peel's autobiography next year, said it was "saddened" by the unauthorised books. Last week, Peel's widow Sheila and their four children said that they would attempt to finish the DJ's only partly-completed autobiography with more biographical material and personal memories. Peel, 65, who lived near Stowmarket in Suffolk, died from a heart attack while on holiday in Peru in October. He had received a sizeable advance for his autobiography, but he had only written only about 50,000 words - and, say friends, had just reached his time as an American DJ in the early 1960s at the height of Beatlemania. In a statement last week, Mrs Peel revealed that she had "thought long and hard" about completing the official autobiography for her late husband. She said: "This book was very important to him, and he was very excited about writing it. We decided it would have been a terrible waste to have let all of his work so far go unpublished and feel he would have wished us to complete it." A major publisher is considering an anthology of his journalism. Peel wrote for dozens of publications, from Record Mirror to the Radio Times, over almost four decades.   8 December 2004 13:48  Search this site:  Go Printable Story From gpwebster@... Wed Dec 8 23:03:19 2004 From: gpwebster@... (hammieweb) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 22:03:19 -0000 Subject: whenever Liverpool have a great win... Message-ID: ... I wonder what John would have said or what he might have payed to mark the occasion. Firstly against Arsenal the other day and tonight against Olympiakos, and I'm not even an Liverpool fan!! Also about 4 times every hour whilst listening to 6Music I think "I remember John Peel playing this" Graham From djhc2@... Thu Dec 9 11:01:05 2004 From: djhc2@... (djhc2@...) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:01:05 +0000 Subject: Peel Book Message-ID: �Bookworm�s� column from the most recent edition of Private Eye: ================================================================ While Transworld waits for John Peel�s widow to finish the DJ�s memoirs, other less contractually-bound publishers are rushing out the inevitable cash-ins. First up, just pipping Michael O�Mara with Michael Heatley�s _John Peel: A Life In Music_, are Mick Wall and Orion with _John Peel_: a tribute to the hugely popular DJ and broadcaster. For their �15, buyers get something that superficially resembles a proper hardback biography, but which on closer inspection is very poor value. Wall�s main qualification for being Peel�s biographer is that he has knocked out similar cash-ins and that Peel once showed him how to use a BBC coffee machine. The book is about as deep and meaningful as this encounter. The slenderness of the text, little of which could not have been gleaned from newspapers or the internet, is bolstered by print only marginally smaller than that used in books for the partially-sighted. Meanwhile, the last quarter of the book is bulked out by complete listings of Peel�s Festive 50 charts from 1976 to last year. Given that Wall must have been pitching the idea while Peel was still warm to get anything out in time for Christmas, it is fanciful to imagine him faithfully transcribing the charts himself from off-air recordings. More likely he lifted them wholesale from www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm, which comes at the top of any Google search for �Festive 50�. Wall and Orion know it�s hard to claim copyright in a simple list, and that the internet seems to be a free-for-all; but that doesn�t make them profiting from the hard work of an unpaid and uncredited fan any less shabby. From stuart@... Sat Dec 11 16:20:34 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:20:34 +0000 Subject: Peel Book In-Reply-To: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: (Private Eye on Mick Wall's book) > More likely he lifted them wholesale from >www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm, which comes at the top of any Google >search for “Festive 50”. > >Wall and Orion know it’s hard to claim copyright in a simple list, and >that the internet seems to be a free-for-all; but that doesn’t make >them profiting from the hard work of an unpaid and uncredited fan any >less shabby. I need to go and have a look at this again - my memory may be playing tricks, but the test will surely be the 1977 chart (chosen by Peelie himself). All i can really recall about this is that the Motors were the unlikely band at #1 and #3, but the rocklist.net site only lists numbers 1 - 13! A web search doesn't turn up anything more than this, apart from the fact that (supposedly!) Some Chicken's 'New Religion' was at #16. (http://www.damagedgoods.co.uk/somechicken/) Stuart -- From festive50@... Sat Dec 11 22:03:01 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:03:01 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Keep it Peel at Maida Vale In-Reply-To: References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <9870.195.188.213.34.1102798981.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Has anyone on list been to any of the sessions at Maida Vale? Somehow, by sheer fluke, I've got an invite to the Keep it Peel gig and in invite it says "Security have asked us to remind you that cameras are not allowed inside the venue". Is this a strict rule and are camera phones allowed, or do they frisk you for them? Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. Phil From janb@... Sat Dec 11 23:39:22 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 22:39:22 -0000 Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> <9870.195.188.213.34.1102798981.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <009001c4dfd2$42d09a70$2e90220a@...> On Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:03 PM [GMT+1=CET], festive50@... wrote: > Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. Not that I'm aware of. BBC4's schedule that night, 19.00 Light Fantastic 20.00 The World 20.30 Yes Prime Minister 21.00 The Price Of Pawns 22.00 John Peel Tribute (repeat of recent BBC2 prog) 22.30 The Undertones (repeat of interview in Derry) 23.10 John Peel: In Session Tonight (repeat of compilation of TV performances by artists from Floyd to The White Stripes) -- Jan From festive50@... Sat Dec 11 23:57:02 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 22:57:02 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale In-Reply-To: <009001c4dfd2$42d09a70$2e90220a@...> References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> <9870.195.188.213.34.1102798981.squirrel@195.188.213.34> <009001c4dfd2$42d09a70$2e90220a@...> Message-ID: <13419.195.188.213.34.1102805822.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Oops. I was obviously misinformed. Phil > > On Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:03 PM [GMT+1=CET], > festive50@... wrote: > >> Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. > > Not that I'm aware of. BBC4's schedule that night, > > 19.00 Light Fantastic > 20.00 The World > 20.30 Yes Prime Minister > 21.00 The Price Of Pawns > 22.00 John Peel Tribute (repeat of recent BBC2 prog) > 22.30 The Undertones (repeat of interview in Derry) > 23.10 John Peel: In Session Tonight (repeat of compilation of TV > performances by artists from Floyd to The White Stripes) > > -- > Jan > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From djhc2@... Sun Dec 12 10:58:55 2004 From: djhc2@... (djhc2@...) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:58:55 +0000 Subject: Keep it Peel at Maida Vale Message-ID: I went to a few of the live sets at Maida Vale. Security consists of checking at the door (by Hermeet or one of the crew) who is on their list - there was certainly no touching and nothing intimidating about it. I took a camera each time and so did plenty of others; the DJs/bands didn't object and Peel himself ensured he got some good positions to take some pics. There was obviously an official BBC photographer taking pics to load stuff onto the web but no-one seemed to mind that the rest of us were snapping away. All I'd say now is that there's no knowing whether the absence of Peel's benign influence may have changed things - perhaps take your camera phone and wait and see if anyone else starts taking pics, then if no alarms go off, go for it. I'd be astonished if that ever extended to frisking though, or confiscating your phone. Have a great evening. David Clifford > >Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:03:01 -0000 (GMT) > From: festive50@... >Subject: Keep it Peel at Maida Vale > >Has anyone on list been to any of the sessions at Maida Vale? >Somehow, by sheer fluke, I've got an invite to the Keep it Peel gig and in >invite it says "Security have asked us to remind you that cameras are not >allowed inside the venue". >Is this a strict rule and are camera phones allowed, or do they frisk you >for them? >Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. >Phil From robstrong@... Sun Dec 12 11:20:13 2004 From: robstrong@... (Rob Strong) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:20:13 -0000 Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> <9870.195.188.213.34.1102798981.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <003201c4e034$31f3d0c0$2d4d2452@oemcomputer> From: > Has anyone on list been to any of the sessions at Maida Vale? > Somehow, by sheer fluke, I've got an invite to the Keep it Peel gig and in > invite it says "Security have asked us to remind you that cameras are not > allowed inside the venue". http://brightlight.youngteam.co.uk/eng/gig210503.php has some of my (fairly ropey) photos from the Mogwai live session in May 2003. There were maybe six people taking photos? Rob From alan@... Sun Dec 12 11:50:11 2004 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:50:11 -0000 Subject: Peel Books Message-ID: <000701c4e038$61aaf240$29fa86d9@pb1996> JOHN PEEL by Mick Wall JOHN PEEL: A Life in Music by Michael Heatley Extracts from reviews by Clive Selwood in today's Sunday Times: "Since John Peel's life was such an open book, the motivation behind rushing two unauthorised biographies into print so soon after his death is open to question. Perhaps hundreds of potential readers are eager for inside stories and scandalous revelations. In that respect, these books may disappoint. " "Mick Wall's book is an earnest, affectionate trawl through the archives with comments from some of the thousands whose lives Peel touched. Somewhat one-dimensional, it comes alive when quoting Peel's writing. " "Michael Heatley's book, on the other hand, is, quite simply, stunning. Often drawing on the same sources, he manages to convey some of the urgency and excitement of Peel's radio programmes. Given the short time frame, it is a monumental achievement, and essential reading for all those whose tastes Peel influenced over so many years. " "For the real story and that extraordinarily intimate combination of wit and self-deprecating irony we shall have to await "Dancing Jack"Peel's autobiography, of which he had completed 50-70,000 words. I do hope whoever finishes it is as honest and open as the man himself. " It also adds "Clive Selwood introduced John Peel to Radio 1 in 1967. Together they set up Dandelion Records in 1969 and remained close friends and business partners for 37 years" From robfleay@... Sun Dec 12 15:03:59 2004 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:03:59 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Keep it Peel at Maida Vale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41BC4FCF.14421.A607B9@localhost> Do they still wheel in a huge trolley full of beer? I went to one of the Cinerama live sessions a couple of years back and that was a welcome surprise (back on topic - we didn't get searched either and there were people with cameras) > > I went to a few of the live sets at Maida Vale. Security > consists of checking at the door (by Hermeet or one of the > crew) who is on their list - there was certainly no touching > and nothing intimidating about it. I took a camera each time > and so did plenty of others; the DJs/bands didn't object and > Peel himself ensured he got some good positions to take some > pics. There was obviously an official BBC photographer > taking pics to load stuff onto the web but no-one seemed to > mind that the rest of us were snapping away. > > All I'd say now is that there's no knowing whether the > absence of Peel's benign influence may have changed things - > perhaps take your camera phone and wait and see if anyone > else starts taking pics, then if no alarms go off, go for > it. I'd be astonished if that ever extended to frisking > though, or confiscating your phone. Have a great evening. > > David Clifford > > > > >Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:03:01 -0000 (GMT) > > From: festive50@... > >Subject: Keep it Peel at Maida Vale > > > >Has anyone on list been to any of the sessions at Maida > >Vale? Somehow, by sheer fluke, I've got an invite to the > >Keep it Peel gig > and in > >invite it says "Security have asked us to remind you that > >cameras are > not > >allowed inside the venue". > >Is this a strict rule and are camera phones allowed, or do > >they frisk > you > >for them? > >Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. > >Phil > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> Tired of hearing the same songs > over and over? Listen to Internet Radio! Skip songs. Click > to listen to LAUNCHcast! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/OXvbED/HARHAA/n1hLAA/JPJolB/TM > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------~-> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From morriso@... Sun Dec 12 17:27:11 2004 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:27:11 -0000 Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> <9870.195.188.213.34.1102798981.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <003301c4e067$6f06b3a0$52fe9a51@Andrew> I've been invited to attend with one other by Louise, and am quite surprised and honoured to get an invite - especially when you consider they've not given away places on the show. My family, friends and I were going to meet Mr Peel on the 22nd December at the Maida Vale Xmas Techno Night (which I now assume is cancelled) after we became (very) minor cult heroes doing those disclaimers. It'll just be my girlfriend and I going this week, however. Really looking forward to it, although I'm not sure what sort of atmosphere we can expect there (won't be too "jolly" I'd imagine). I went to see Melys play live on John's show back in June 2001, and as others have said here no-one seemed bothered when I took photos. Won't be taking a camera this week, as I want to enjoy the night for what it is, rather than be worrying about whether I should take pictures of particular acts - they'll be photos online anyway, no doubt. How did you manage to get your invite, Phil? Keep an eye out for me on Thursday - I'm a 6'2" skinny skinhead, with Harry Potter-esque round glasses (very difficult to miss, in other words). Oh, and as someone has already said, The Aphrodisiacs album is, indeed, a corker. Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: festive50@blueyonder.co.uk To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale Has anyone on list been to any of the sessions at Maida Vale? Somehow, by sheer fluke, I've got an invite to the Keep it Peel gig and in invite it says "Security have asked us to remind you that cameras are not allowed inside the venue". Is this a strict rule and are camera phones allowed, or do they frisk you for them? Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. Phil From troche@... Sun Dec 12 22:15:36 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:15:36 -0500 Subject: The Observer 12/12 John Peel: Loud and Proud Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1371336,00.html?gusrc=rss Loud and proud John Peel was not just a great DJ, but also a fine journalist. Here, in this exclusive extract from the introduction to a new history of death metal, he recalls his first exposure to the joys of grindcore. Sunday December 12, 2004 The Observer The sun shines. Trees bud. If I opened the window, I'm sure I would hear birds singing. And this morning, when I took the dogs for a walk, I found a fullygrown deer dead in the stream that gurgles past our house, half its head blown away by a hunter. This, I thought, as I watched the dogs evacuating their bowels at the roadside, is an omen from God - or if not from God, from Vashti, Hand Maiden of Baal or someone like her - to warn me that I'd better sit down and write this. But where to start? Well, I could whirl you back to the mid-Fifties and try to explain the impact that hearing Elvis for the first time had on my young and bourgeois life, or I could tell you about the gig I did with Hendrix, but it might make more sense to return to a riverside pub in Putney, London, at the end of 1986. I'd trekked to Putney to see the Stupids. Punk, let me remind you, had happened nine years earlier and had evolved into art rock sub-genres every bit as beastly as the muck that it had, in theory, swept aside. What was needed, my BBC Radio 1 producer, John Walters, and I felt, was a return to rousing vulgarity. What we were looking for was a band that, metaphorically at least, lit their farts on stage. The Stupids were that band. They were funny, fast, loud, clever/stupid and they took the piss out of Walters and myself. They also came from East Anglia, where I still live and where the deer discussed above died. They were shit hot and local. How could you not love them? They also told me - warned might be a better word - of another local phenomenon, Extreme Noise Terror. ENT, with Mick Harris on drums and blue-haired Dean Jones on vocals, played from time to time at the Caribbean Centre in Ipswich, so I took Sheila, my wife, and our son, William, to see them play. That 's the way to bring up your kids. ENT were amazing. So were their fans. Any track more than 20 seconds long was greeted with derisive cries of 'too long, too slow' or 'fucking prog-rockers' from the faithful, most of whom looked as though they had but recently risen from shallow graves alongside the A12, the arterial road that runs from London to Ipswich. The only disappointment for Sheila, William and me was that the band weren't loud enough. We wanted to leave the show with blood trickling from our ears. Well, one thing led to another. At one of those Ipswich gigs, ENT were joined by the even faster Napalm Death; at another by the short-lived but murderous Intense Degree. All three bands recorded sessions for my radio programmes and most of the tracks they recorded ended up on the Hardcore Holocaust compilations. Almost everyone I knew who heard these compilations, or tracks from them, thought they were all crap. A result, I thought. Then along came Carcass. Who could have failed to be appalled by titles such as 'Exhume to Consume' or even the essentially meaningless 'Empathological Necroticism,' both recorded and broadcast repeatedly by the BBC? Then, early in the 1990s, something went wrong - for me at least. The wilfulness, the wildeyed exuberance went out of the music, to be replaced with... with... what? Well, I suppose it was, to a degree, heavy metal. I'd really had enough of that in the Seventies to last me several lifetimes, so Slayer, Metallica et al never meant a thing to me, I'm afraid. There was also the breaking down of the music into subgenre after sub-genre, to the point at which it became somehow incomprehensible. The same thing happens, to be honest, in dance music. Take happy hardcore, for example. Ludicrously fast, basic to a fault, oafish and wonderful - dance purists hated it. Now it is called hard trance - or was last week anyway - and they still hate it. They're missing the point. So it's 2004 and I'm still wandering the record shops, still standing among the boys searching the racks marked 'metal'; boys who probably assume that this old fella is there to touch their pert, young bottoms, and I'm still hoping to hear something that will thrill me and make me laugh out loud as Carcass, Napalm Death and Extreme Noise Terror did. -John Peel · This is an edited extract from the introduction to 'Choosing Death - The Improbable History of Death Metal and Grindcore' by Albert Mudrian, published by Feral House (feralhouse.com) From troche@... Sun Dec 12 22:25:07 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:25:07 -0500 Subject: The Guardian 12/10 'No one can ever be the next John Peel' Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1369879,00.html?gusrc=rss 'No one can ever be the next John Peel' Dom Phillips meets Rob Da Bank, the main contender for the most difficult job in pop Friday December 10, 2004 The Guardian Sunday's child... DJ Rob Da Bank. Photo: Martin Godwin It is 6pm on Sunday but upstairs at the Lock Tavern in Camden, north London, nobody is interested in tea-time or the Antiques Roadshow. The pub is hosting a party and it's going off like peak-time Saturday night. In control is the free-wheeling club Sunday Best and their fashionably tousled, arty crowd are dancing on tables, swilling pints and necking sambuca shots, squeezing good-naturedly through the throng, or swaying to a good-time soundtrack of old-time hip hop. Rob Da Bank, ponytailed DJ and Sunday Best impresario, has just dropped House of Pain's bouncing rap classic Jump Around - and is about to introduce a cabaret trio in trilbies called Mr Hat. He seems, on the face of it, an unlikely candidate to become the New John Peel. The Blue Room chill-out show he co-hosts on Radio 1 is confined to the spectacularly unsociable time slot of 4-7am on Saturday morning. And he is best known for playing music that makes people dance. But since the sudden death of the veteran broadcaster, Da Bank has been hosting his show three times a week - and the New John Peel is what sections of the media are already calling him. "It's been an absolute rollercoaster, but amazing as well," he says. "Just finding out so much more about music than I thought I ever would. And interacting with Peel fans who'd been listening to John for 37 years ... it's been very emotional." Both Rob - real name Robert Gorham - and Radio 1 insist he's just sitting in until Christmas, when a decision will be made. It's a sensitive time for the station and everyone is keen to play down any suggestion that Peel can - or will - be replaced. "I think anyone would find it weird, full stop, to be trying to present the Peel show," Gorham says. "That's why no one can ever be the next John Peel and no one's trying." But Gorham has tackled the Peel Show with a balance of careful reverence for its founder and enthusiasm for its music. While he can't match Peel's effortless sense of engagement, his lazy, nasal drawl seems to work. "I think it's probably one of the most difficult things we've ever asked anyone to do," says Ian Parkinson, Radio 1's head of specialist programming, "and Rob has done much better than anyone could have expected." So far, the listeners approve. "The feedback from the audience has been very positive. They said it's a really, really difficult job but thank you for what you've been doing." Gorham had already been selected to look after Peel's famous Radio 1 show while the 65-year-old DJ took a holiday. He was at the station "vibing up" when news of Peel's death hit. Gorham had been a Peel fan since childhood, and had even shared Peel's office at the station. "I felt complete shock," he says. "Total disbelief and a cold feeling all over." On the face of it, the laconic 32-year-old makes an unlikely new Peel. He is ringmaster for the Sunday Best circus - which grew out of Sunday night chill-out sessions in a Battersea tea-room to embrace compilation albums, a label that houses acclaimed artists such as Grand National and parties in London, Miami and Ibiza. It's all decorated with the pastel-pink, quirky cartoons of his wife, Josie, an illustrator who also owns a Sunday Best-style bar in Hoxton, east London. Gorham and Josie - "creative director of all things Da Bank" - travel the summer music festivals in their VW camper van, Stella, which is parked out back of their home in south London. Built into one corner of their neat garden is a silver spaceship, put there by the previous occupant. You sense it might have been as much of an incentive to buy the place as anything else. We sit upstairs in a room jammed with records, where Rob is sorting out tonight's show. "We've got some reggae, some indie, some really mad Japanese techno," he grins. Luckily, Peel had left boxes of records earmarked for airplay. Rob brought his own music along, and went record shopping with Peel's two young producers. "I tried to keep it as low-key as possible," he says, calling himself "a caretaker playing the right tunes in the right order". Gorham grew up in the village of Warsash in Hampshire, where his dad was the local GP. He and his siblings all performed with their father in the village brass band (Rob played trombone). He was a goth/indie kid, listening to John Peel under the covers. "Full Robert Smith back-combed hair, walking around sullenly, kicking cans down the road." He wrote little stories, hated school, and built up an impressively varied record collection when not playing bass in a rock band. He came to London to study French and history of art at Goldsmiths, but landed a work placement at now-defunct dance magazine Muzik - then refused to leave until they gave him a job. "I couldn't believe what an amazing world it was. You get free records. Pete Tong would walk into the office - very exciting for a 21-year-old," he says. He became clubs editor, and something of a clubland celebrity. The magazine featured a picture of him, arms gleefully aloft, in the middle of a swarming dancefloor. The headline read: "He is. Are you?" He retains that sense of cheek. In one of his shows, he invited people to decide who is the more "fit": Chrissie Hynde, or Yeah Yeah Yeahs' frontwoman, Karen O. Male and female listeners instantly responded. Rob became a DJ almost by default, after opening Sunday Best as a low-key, chill-out session at the Tea Rooms des Artistes in 1995. It cost just £1.99 to get in, but star DJs such as Andrew Weatherall and Norman Cook were happy to seize the chance to play whatever they wanted: hip-hop, disco, chill-out, old classics. Along with the Big Chill, Sunday Best redefined what constituted both a club and a DJ set. Now, freestyle DJ sets and lounges are common; then, it was revolutionary. Earlier this year, Rob released an album under the Lazyboy alias he shares with rising producer Mr Dan (he produced Kylie's hit Slow), featuring guests such as Lee "Scratch" Perry and Roddy Frame. Their next single, Police Dogs Bonfire, has been picked up for a mobile phone ad campaign. It's a mini empire - although in a rambling, boho sort of way. "There is no Da Bank masterplan, it happens by the day, by the week, by the month," he insists. But you don't end up with a Radio 1 show, a world-famous club, a record label and a recording career by accident. Rob's approach might be shambolic, but it's certainly effective. At the Lock Tavern, one of his oldest friends tells me that Gorham has always been the high achiever in their social group. Gorham says vaguely it's about searching for happiness. "That's what all of this is all about for me. It's the old escape thing. It makes me happy doing music." The club night is a reunion for Sunday Best's first festival - or "Bestival" - which brought 7,000 people to the Isle of Wight last September for a weekend of Basement Jaxx, Chas'n'Dave, Kate Bush impersonators and morris dancers. Rob Da Bank's freestyle DJ sets come packed with humour. Duellin' Banjos is one his favourite party tracks. DJing with half of comedy hip-hop duo and Sunday Best stalwarts the Cuban Brothers at this year's Big Chill festival, he got a huge crowd dancing to Queen's Don't Stop Me Now, before attempting the world's longest Greek dance. Gorham has the idiosyncratic mix of qualities to take the John Peel show forward: musical passion, deadpan approach, the catholic taste of someone who has been through 1980s new wave, hip-hop and acid house. He's not in this, says Parkinson, "because he wants a chat show". But it may be that Gorham gets just one of the three Peel shows a week. "No one person can replace John," Parkinson says. "What we need to do is work out all those things that John brought to Radio 1, such as championing styles and artists that other people didn't like. If you can continue doing the same things, that's the way forward." Hearing Rob Da Bank on radio, as he gleefully cues up happy hardcore, raucous punk rock or spaced-out reggae, you can't help feeling he's made a very good start. · Radio 1 is hosting Keep It Peel, a live John Peel night with special guests, on Thursday, 7pm-1am. Related special report John Peel, 1939-2004 http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/johnpeel/0,15271,1336461,00.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From troche@... Sun Dec 12 22:06:21 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:06:21 -0500 Subject: Nicey & Nicey Message-ID: http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/biography/0,6121,1371738,00.html?gusrc=rss Biography Is there anything more to say? Michael Heatley and Mick Wall conjure up a national treasure in their biographies of John Peel Anna Lynskey Sunday December 12, 2004 The Observer John Peel: A Life in Music by Michael Heatley (Michael O'Mara £14.99, pp240) John Peel by Mick Wall (Orion £14.99, pp240) In the hours following the death of John Peel, Radio 1 stopped all the playlists and devoted the airwaves to remembering its founding father. Chris Moyles's response to any listeners who considered this a waste of time was terse: 'Go screw yourself. We feel like we've lost a member of our family.' At first glance such a retort seems melodramatic. Yet Moyles spoke for a country that, by and large, found itself in mourning. This wasn't just a symbolic outpouring of grief for a public figure: people really did feel that they knew Peel. His voice was a regular presence in bedrooms and cars across the country, at once challenging and reassuring. We will have another chance to experience his gently sardonic observations on life and music in his unfinished memoir, due to be completed by his wife, and published next year. Meanwhile, fans could do worse than turning to two just-published books which pay homage to the man Andy Kershaw called 'the most important figure in British music since the birth of rock'n'roll'. Michael Heatley's John Peel: A Life in Music is the more meticulously factual of the two. He tells us Peel was born two days before the national evacuation began in 1939; that he first played 'Anarchy in the UK' on 19 November 1976. By contrast, Mick Wall's homage presents us with a leisurely stroll through the life of an 'irreplacable man'. Although they have been rushed through somewhat - Heatley opens by confessing that his was largely a team effort - these books are more than the cynical stocking fillers that might be expected, providing thoughtful, well-paced portraits of the national treasure du jour. Both pad out their slightly spare narratives with some of the media eulogies that greeted Peel's death, helping to streamline the welter of information with which we have been bombarded over past weeks. Given that in the week following Peel's death, the national press alone dedicated more than 33,000 words to him, this is no mean feat. Each author makes the obligatory attempt to link himself to Peel. Heatley was, apparently, born on Merseyside, while Hall was once shown how to use a BBC coffee machine by his hero. Such clutching at credibility is unnecessary, as they are both experienced music pundits. People will buy these books to remember fondly what they already know; that Peel's favourite song was 'Teenage Kicks', or that he foresaw his own death on his 60th birthday. This is hardly the time for exposés. Heatley and Wall recreate the sense of personality that Peel always conveyed, whether introducing 16-year-olds to Nirvana or making a cameo appearance on The Archers. In this way they manage to distract from the sometimes bland and undemanding content of their books to create two warm tributes to a much-missed DJ. From troche@... Sun Dec 12 22:44:22 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:44:22 -0500 Subject: The Times : Clive Selwood reviews the two Bios Message-ID: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2102-1392808,00.html Biography: John Peel REVIEWED BY CLIVE SELWOOD JOHN PEEL by Mick Wall Orion £14.99 pp231 JOHN PEEL: A Life in Music by Michael Heatley Michael O'Mara £14.99 pp224 Since John Peel's life was such an open book, the motivation behind rushing two unauthorised biographies into print so soon after his death is open to question. Perhaps hundreds of potential readers are eager for inside stories and scandalous revelations. In that respect, these books may disappoint. Mick Wall's book is an earnest, affectionate trawl through the archives with comments from some of the thousands whose lives Peel touched. Somewhat one-dimensional, it comes alive when quoting Peel's writing. The description of a Pretenders audience "amusing themselves by punching balloons about in a thoughtful manner, while otherwise behaving as though attending a lecture on the inland waterways of Holland" is pure, unfiltered Peel. Errors abound, but the picture emerges of a decent family man in love with his music. Michael Heatley's book, on the other hand, is, quite simply, stunning. Often drawing on the same sources, he manages to convey some of the urgency and excitement of Peel's radio programmes. Given the short time frame, it is a monumental achievement, and essential reading for all those whose tastes Peel influenced over so many years. For Peel anoraks, both volumes list his annual compilations of listeners' polls, the Festive 50. From Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven in 1976 to Cinerama's Don't Touch That Dial in 2003, they chart his enduring influence. Given that Peel's death is so recent, the tone of both books is still perhaps a shade too reverential. Peel was neither a saint nor a sinner, but a gifted communicator with a penchant for the unexpected. Nevertheless, over our many years of friendship, he never displayed a darker side. Like all of us, he could be grumpy and cantankerous, but he was never mean-spirited in deed or thought. Viewed from the sidelines (and both writers admit to barely meeting the man), Peel's career looked like an effortless rise to the top. The reality was a constant struggle with the BBC hierarchy, who viewed him initially as a token concession to the emerging "underground movement", and later as a trophy to be wheeled out when under critical review. When Peel's first Radio 1 producer and champion, Bernie Andrews, retired after being sidelined, he was replaced by the acerbic, larger than life John Walters. "Petals", as he was affectionately known, brought a new sense of reality to the programmes, while guarding Peel against internal sniping. Their partnership lasted more than 20 years, until Petals, too, took early retirement. Together they were the funniest double act I have known, and an hour in their company was something to be treasured. Despite considerable internal opposition, Peel believed the BBC to be his natural home. He enjoyed a degree of freedom there and could continue with his beloved "sessions", unique recordings made at the expense of Radio 1, featuring mainly unknown and unrecorded artists. In the 1980s, many of these were released commercially under the name The Peel Sessions. Because both books seem to be aimed at music fans, Home Truths, Peel's Radio 4 programme, gets less attention than it deserves. It took a full day and a half to prepare and present and, despite his concern that too often the content became "soft-centred", it found him a new and larger audience as well as winning numerous awards. Much has been made of Peel's championing of new artists, but he always referred to his role as akin to that of the page numbers of a book: a guide and reference point. Yet bookings for the John Peel Road Show (Peel and a box of records) were accepted on the strict understanding that the chosen venue would feature the best of the local talent. All too often Peel would be so impressed that he would hand his fee to the support act, leaving insufficient funds to get home, and would end up spending the night on somebody's floor. For the real story and that extraordinarily intimate combination of wit and self-deprecating irony we shall have to await "Dancing Jack"Peel's autobiography, of which he had completed 50-70,000 words. I do hope whoever finishes it is as honest and open as the man himself. Back in 1976, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore presented Peel with the Melody Maker "disc jockey of the year" award. Now all four are gone, and we miss them all. Clive Selwood introduced John Peel to Radio 1 in 1967. Together they set up Dandelion Records in 1969 and remained close friends and business partners for 37 years. Books available at the Books First price of £11.99 each plus £2.25 p&p on 0870 165 8585 ALSO IN THIS SECTION Copyright 2004 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard Terms and Conditions. Please read our Privacy Policy. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Times, visit the Syndication website. From festive50@... Mon Dec 13 15:12:41 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:12:41 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale In-Reply-To: <003301c4e067$6f06b3a0$52fe9a51@Andrew> References: <1102668986.197.74198.m12@yahoogroups.com> <9870.195.188.213.34.1102798981.squirrel@195.188.213.34> <003301c4e067$6f06b3a0$52fe9a51@Andrew> Message-ID: <18226.195.188.213.35.1102947161.squirrel@195.188.213.35> Thanks for all of those tips re. Maida Vale. > I've been invited to attend with one other by Louise, and am quite > surprised and honoured to get an invite - especially when you consider > they've not given away places on the show. My family, friends and I were > going to meet Mr Peel on the 22nd December at the Maida Vale Xmas Techno > Night (which I now assume is cancelled) after we became (very) minor cult > heroes doing those disclaimers. I'd say less of the (very) minor. I find them most amusing and entertaining. > How did you manage to get your invite, Phil? Through all of those posts, about attending the funeral. I offered to give Tom Roche(of Atlanta, Georgia fame) a lift and subseqently put him up for the day before and after the funeral. While, Tom was in transit, I emailed the RDB show, asking if it would be possible for Tom to get a place in Cathedral as he was travelling so far. When Tom arrived and dumped gear off, we went up to Yalding House to sign book of condolence and through sheer fluke, met Hermeet and Louise. We were told it may be possible to get onto "list". When we arrived at the cathedral, we explained to security, that we may be on "list" and told to wait by the side entrance and sure enough, found that we were on list and were given a map to the wake after the service. Then week before last I got the email that you also received from Louise. I must admit that initially, I assumed it was sent to the "Peel List" as it started with an apology for group post and then I saw that your name, Andrew, was the only name I recognised. I still can't believe that I'm going. > I'm a 6'2" skinny skinhead, with Harry Potter-esque round > glasses (very difficult to miss, in other words). Well I'm more of a squatter, rotund skinhead with glasses and and beard. I've often been described as a John Peel lookalike (although extremely flattered, feel that it does a disservice to John's memory). In fact Marcelle from the list (who by sheer fluke again, we met at the wake) sent this link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/suffolk/content/image_galleries/john_peel_funeral_gallery.shtml?11 I'm at front in blue shirt and Tom is to my right. Although hidden in this pic. Jarvis Cocker was about 10 people behind us. If you click on image 38 (that's Marcelle). Look forward to seeing you there. Phil ). > > I went to see Melys play live on John's show back in June 2001, and as > others have said here no-one seemed bothered when I took photos. Won't be > taking a camera this week, as I want to enjoy the night for what it is, > rather than be worrying about whether I should take pictures of particular > acts - they'll be photos online anyway, no doubt. > > How did you manage to get your invite, Phil? Keep an eye out for me on > Thursday - I'm a 6'2" skinny skinhead, with Harry Potter-esque round > glasses (very difficult to miss, in other words). > It'll just be my girlfriend and I going > this week, however. Really looking forward to it, although I'm not sure > what sort of atmosphere we can expect there (won't be too "jolly" I'd > imagine > Oh, and as someone has already said, The Aphrodisiacs album is, indeed, a > corker. > > Regards, > Andrew Morrison > Email: morriso@... > Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: festive50@... > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:03 PM > Subject: [peel] Keep it Peel at Maida Vale > > > Has anyone on list been to any of the sessions at Maida Vale? > Somehow, by sheer fluke, I've got an invite to the Keep it Peel gig and in > invite it says "Security have asked us to remind you that cameras are not > allowed inside the venue". > Is this a strict rule and are camera phones allowed, or do they frisk you > for them? > Also, only just discovered, it's being shown on BBC4 live. > Phil From gforsyth@... Mon Dec 13 18:49:25 2004 From: gforsyth@... (gforsyth@...) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:49:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: non Peel help Message-ID: <3599943.1102960165795.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Hello Does anyone out there know the name and address and of good record/cd shops in Cardiff (Wales)? Thanks George Forsyth -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm From penarth2002@... Mon Dec 13 20:35:41 2004 From: penarth2002@... (Karl Eldridge) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:35:41 +0000 Subject: [peel] non Peel help In-Reply-To: <3599943.1102960165795.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From morriso@... Mon Dec 13 23:59:22 2004 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:59:22 -0000 Subject: [peel] non Peel help References: <3599943.1102960165795.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: <004001c4e167$64d57b90$45fe9a51@Andrew> I've ordered online from a Kelly's Records in Cardiff before - can't speak for the quality of the actual shop itself, however... Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: gforsyth@... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:49 PM Subject: [peel] non Peel help Hello Does anyone out there know the name and address and of good record/cd shops in Cardiff (Wales)? Thanks George Forsyth -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! 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(r0bertward) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:57:36 -0000 Subject: last 2 shows Message-ID: what a group, i love this group - just joined My name is Bob and I'm a ravenscroftaholic - I've been listening since 1986 (i think); taping and editing down since 1987; but recently i've been doing the whole shows since 2000, i have most of them in varying degrees of quality (you know what I mean when you went on holiday and had to hook-up your video etc until i found out about Total Recorder on the PC, blah, blah, blah) been to Maida Vale once for Neko Case (met the Cuban Boys) my girlfriend took in a 35mm camera (see previous Security-worried posts) and I even barged into the DJ booth to meet the man himself, Anita and Lyn BUT the thing is - I missed half of the 13th October (the first half the fantastic Phil Roebuck live session) and the whole of the 14th (last show) due to not turning the DAB on, idiot if anyone has these two nights in full, on mp3 or something (my yahoo mail address can take chunks of 19.5mb), I'd be very grateful and obviously can reciprocate to the extent mentioned above and even if you can't help me i'd be glad to share what I have in any way I can best of everything Rob From garry_latham@... Wed Dec 15 23:00:38 2004 From: garry_latham@... (garry_latham) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:00:38 -0000 Subject: Samples of John. Message-ID: Hi Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. Cheers Garry. From r0bertward@... Thu Dec 16 02:30:30 2004 From: r0bertward@... (r0bertward) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:30:30 -0000 Subject: Samples of John. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i've got the last coupla peel months of R4 Home Truths in some sparkling mpeg format or other, if they're any good to you? can burn CD, or file share (if I could work out how DC++ works, keeps harping on about routers, i've only got a ADSL modem, sorry that's the sauvignon typing, work it out soon, shutting up now, can pop them on Limewire though tomorrow morning (late morning, "conciousness doesn't grow on trees, y'know") all the beast rob --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "garry_latham" wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on > them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. > > Cheers > Garry. From Phyll@... Thu Dec 16 18:20:10 2004 From: Phyll@... (Phyll@...) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:20:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [peel] Peel tribute Message-ID: <25500824.1103217610712.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> I'm assuming that someone on list will be recording the tribute show tonight. Could i beg a copy from someone, perhaps swap some old shows or whatever. I've got a copy of John's Records that Santa Claus forgot shows from 1991-2ish if anyone is looking for christmas gifts. > Message date : Dec 16 2004, 09:13 AM > From : peel@yahoogroups.com > To : peel@yahoogroups.com > Copy to : > Subject : [peel] Digest Number 873 > > > There are 3 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Samples of John. > From: "garry_latham" > 2. Re: Digest Number 872 > From: Leo Hilarious > 3. Re: Samples of John. > From: "r0bertward" > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:00:38 -0000 > From: "garry_latham" > Subject: Samples of John. > > > Hi > > Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on > them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. > > Cheers > Garry. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:00:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Leo Hilarious > Subject: Re: Digest Number 872 > > Hi Bob, > > Welcome to the group! I've got the full show from the > 14th on my high-speed server in mp3 if you're > interested? The file is about 100MB so you'd be best > with a fast connection. I recorded it from the > streaming broadcast and it sounds pretty good in my > opinion. Let me know and I'll give you the address. > > Have you by chance got this session recorded? > > 4/11/87 Housemartins > > I've been looking for a good copy of this one for some > time now. Any help much appreciated! Thanks, > > ~Leo > > > --- peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Click to > > listen to LAUNCHcast! > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/OXvbED/HARHAA/n1hLAA/JPJolB/TM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. last 2 shows > > From: "r0bertward" > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:57:36 -0000 > > From: "r0bertward" > > Subject: last 2 shows > > > > > > what a group, i love this group - just joined > > > > My name is Bob and I'm a ravenscroftaholic - I've > > been listening > > since 1986 (i think); taping and editing down since > > 1987; but > > recently i've been doing the whole shows since 2000, > > i have most of > > them in varying degrees of quality (you know what I > > mean when you > > went on holiday and had to hook-up your video etc > > until i found out > > about Total Recorder on the PC, blah, blah, blah) > > > > been to Maida Vale once for Neko Case (met the Cuban > > Boys) my > > girlfriend took in a 35mm camera (see previous > > Security-worried > > posts) and I even barged into the DJ booth to meet > > the man himself, > > Anita and Lyn > > > > BUT the thing is - I missed half of the 13th October > > (the first half > > the fantastic Phil Roebuck live session) and the > > whole of the 14th > > (last show) due to not turning the DAB on, idiot > > > > if anyone has these two nights in full, on mp3 or > > something (my yahoo > > mail address can take chunks of 19.5mb), I'd be very > > grateful and > > obviously can reciprocate to the extent mentioned > > above > > > > and even if you can't help me i'd be glad to share > > what I have in any > > way I can > > > > best of everything > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:30:30 -0000 > From: "r0bertward" > Subject: Re: Samples of John. > > > i've got the last coupla peel months of R4 Home Truths in some > sparkling mpeg format or other, if they're any good to you? > > can burn CD, or file share (if I could work out how DC++ works, keeps > harping on about routers, i've only got a ADSL modem, sorry that's > the sauvignon typing, work it out soon, shutting up now, can pop them > on Limewire though tomorrow morning (late morning, "conciousness > doesn't grow on trees, y'know") > > all the beast > rob > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "garry_latham" wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on > > them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. > > > > Cheers > > Garry. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm From cynicaldj@... Thu Dec 16 20:33:06 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:33:06 -0000 Subject: Keep It Peel. Message-ID: Hello All, Tonight at 1900 hours on www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 for SEVEN hours is "Keep It Peel", Radio 1's Tribute to John Peel. Regarding the Festive Fifty, for my money call me old-fashioned and sentimental, I'd like to see Undertones - "Teenage Kicks", make the top spot, although I have reservations as to whether the Festive Fifty should even be run this year; let's face it, he's was getting tired of it himself, wasn't he?! My chief concern is that Radio 1 will use its "Keep It Peel" Tribute as the opportunity to say not only goodbye to John Peel, but the Peel Programme itself. What do you think? Anyway, I'm off to listen to "Keep It Peel". Goodnight. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ From ajcauk@... Thu Dec 16 20:59:18 2004 From: ajcauk@... (cannon alan) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:59:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Samples of John. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041216195918.23801.qmail@...> u have the tyrannosaurus rex poem then there is the tony blackburn duet of you dont send me flowers any more but dont forget the conversation with mark e smith on middle class revolt about football saturday afternoon so 1993? i ll listen some more and get back to u Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. Cheers Garry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From cynicaldj@... Thu Dec 16 21:28:42 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:28:42 -0000 Subject: Peel F.M. Update. Message-ID: For those interested, I am just about to buy several Dell "PowerEdge" Servers and will be reserving one for the Peel F.M. Project. Just to keep you updated. Goodnight. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ From alan@... Thu Dec 16 20:33:04 2004 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:33:04 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel tribute References: <25500824.1103217610712.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> Message-ID: <004001c4e3a7$6b4d7b20$ece186d9@pb1996> I'm recording until 1am, but my FM reception is pretty poor here. Get back to me if you don't get a better offer. Cheers Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Phyll@... To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Peel tribute I'm assuming that someone on list will be recording the tribute show tonight. Could i beg a copy from someone, perhaps swap some old shows or whatever. I've got a copy of John's Records that Santa Claus forgot shows from 1991-2ish if anyone is looking for christmas gifts. > Message date : Dec 16 2004, 09:13 AM > From : peel@yahoogroups.com > To : peel@yahoogroups.com > Copy to : > Subject : [peel] Digest Number 873 > > > There are 3 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Samples of John. > From: "garry_latham" > 2. Re: Digest Number 872 > From: Leo Hilarious > 3. Re: Samples of John. > From: "r0bertward" > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:00:38 -0000 > From: "garry_latham" > Subject: Samples of John. > > > Hi > > Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on > them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. > > Cheers > Garry. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:00:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Leo Hilarious > Subject: Re: Digest Number 872 > > Hi B ob, > > Welcome to the group! I've got the full show from the > 14th on my high-speed server in mp3 if you're > interested? The file is about 100MB so you'd be best > with a fast connection. I recorded it from the > streaming broadcast and it sounds pretty good in my > opinion. Let me know and I'll give you the address. > > Have you by chance got this session recorded? > > 4/11/87 Housemartins > > I've been looking for a good copy of this one for some > time now. Any help much appreciated! Thanks, > > ~Leo > > > --- peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > Tired of hearing the same songs over and over? > > Listen to Internet Radio! Skip songs. Click to > > listen to LAUNCHcast! > > > http://us.click.y ahoo.com/OXvbED/HARHAA/n1hLAA/JPJolB/TM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. last 2 shows > > From: "r0bertward" > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:57:36 -0000 > > From: "r0bertward" > > Subject: last 2 shows > > > > > > what a group, i love this group - just joined > > > > My name is Bob and I'm a ravenscroftaholic - I've > > been listening > > since 1986 (i think); taping and editing down since > > 1987; but > > recently i've been doing the whole shows since 2000, > > i have most of > > them in varying degrees of quality (you know what I > > mean when you > > went on holiday and had to hook-up your video etc > > until i found out > > about Total Recorder on the PC, blah, blah, blah) > > > > been to Maida Vale once for Neko Case (met the Cuban > > Boys) my > > girlfriend took in a 35mm camera (see previous > > Security-worried > > posts) and I even barged into the DJ booth to meet > > the man himself, > > Anita and Lyn > > > > BUT the thing is - I missed half of the 13th October > > (the first half > > the fantastic Phil Roebuck live session) and the > > whole of the 14th > > (last show) due to not turning the DAB on, idiot > > > > if anyone has these two nights in full, on mp3 or > > something (my yahoo > > mail address can take chunks of 19.5mb), I'd be very > > grateful and > > obviously can reciprocate to the extent mentioned > > above > > > > and even if you can't help me i'd be glad to share > > what I have in any > > way I can > > > > best of everything > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > peel-unsubscribe@yahoo groups.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:30:30 -0000 > From: "r0bertward" > Subject: Re: Samples of John. > > > i've got the last coupla peel months of R4 Home Truths in some > sparkling mpeg format or other, if they're any good to you? > > can burn CD, or file share (if I could work out how DC++ w orks, keeps > harping on about routers, i've only got a ADSL modem, sorry that's > the sauvignon typing, work it out soon, shutting up now, can pop them > on Limewire though tomorrow morning (late morning, "conciousness > doesn't grow on trees, y'know") > > all the beast > rob > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "garry_latham" wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on > > them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. > > > > Cheers > > Garry. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ; Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whatever you Wanadoo This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From garry_latham@... Thu Dec 16 21:54:59 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Samples of John. In-Reply-To: <20041216195918.23801.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20041216205459.84715.qmail@...> These sound cool, especially the Mark E one, that's just the era I'm after, 88 onwards, the years I've been listening. While the listening to the documentary part tonight's tribute I came to the conclusion I really really want stuff from the days that I 'knew' him. God I wish I could have recorded the doc, the bit of him introducing a Fall track, and an seemingly early example of him playing a d'n'b tune at the wrong speed were just perfect. Cannon Alan do you have Yahoo Messenger, it's excellent for file transfer. @r0bertward: I never listened to Home Truths so I have no idea what was on the show. What sort of things are there in the recording you've got. Was it all him dealing with the lives of R4 listeners. Anyway back to Jawbone, he's just come on. cannon alan wrote: u have the tyrannosaurus rex poem then there is the tony blackburn duet of you dont send me flowers any more but dont forget the conversation with mark e smith on middle class revolt about football saturday afternoon so 1993? i ll listen some more and get back to u Does anyone know of any sites with samples of John Speaking on them? That brilliant tune by Skep on tuesday night has inspired me. Cheers Garry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! From rockerq@... Thu Dec 16 23:52:26 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:52:26 EST Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel. Message-ID: <42.5ec2f365.2ef36baa@...> << Tonight at 1900 hours on www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 for SEVEN hours is "Keep It Peel", Radio 1's Tribute to John Peel. >> It's either 6 or 8 hours, depending whether you count Annieon1's show! - she has mixes from Peel related artists such as The Orb - sounds good! Yours pedantically, Rocker (It's what he would have wanted!) From colmgallagher@... Fri Dec 17 00:14:29 2004 From: colmgallagher@... (colmgallagher) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:14:29 -0000 Subject: peel tribute show Message-ID: Thought this group might like to know there is a peel tribute show on Dublins XFM... Hosted by a chap called Dudley whose heart is definitely in the right place.... The show starts with the Fall and just gets better and better! Also RTE Radio 1 hosts a show in the early evening called the mystery train which has some gems.... It is hosted by John Kelly author of Sophisicated Boom Boom which was a Peel fave on its its release some years ago. Please be warned though tonights streamed show had Tom Waits on it!.... Hmmmmm! Keep it Peel From rockerq@... Fri Dec 17 00:56:38 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:56:38 EST Subject: [peel] peel tribute show Message-ID: <6d.3ac98017.2ef37ab6@...> << Thought this group might like to know there is a peel tribute show on Dublins XFM. >> Is it streamable? Rocker From cynicaldj@... Fri Dec 17 04:47:26 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:47:26 -0000 Subject: Keep It Peel - A Review. Message-ID: Well, without a doubt, I can only honestly say that Radio 1's 9 hour Tribute to John was the finest piece of singular Music broadcasting I think I've ever heard. And it was *lovely* to hear Sheila dedicate a record to John as well. The documentary was very moving, especially to hear what turned out to be John's last words spoken on Radio 1 before his holiday to Peru, when handing over to Anne Nightingale - who is now ironically Radio 1's longest-serving D.J. Even more ironic was the last track to be played: The Clute - "Time For Change". Excellent Music throughout the night until the D.J.'s took over at 2300 hours, then it was just great, mad, Music. Even at 0300 hours (Annie Nighingale extended the marathon by Keeping It Peel on her Programme too), it didn't really stop as "One Click" took over, which is really off the wall stuff in itself. My only hope is that this becomes a yearly event, and that Radio 1 don't now try to switch the idea of the Peel Programme into Daytime Pap Radio. May even change the name of the proposed Internet Radio Station to "K.I.P." Keep It Peel. What do you all reckon? It's now 0340 hours G.M.T. Goodnight! http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ From cynicaldj@... Fri Dec 17 05:28:22 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 04:28:22 -0000 Subject: Am I Expecting Too Much?! Message-ID: O.K. Look, I'm quite aware that there will have been people who didn't like either John or his Music or, for that matter, BOTH. Including the ordinary Public and Radio One Colleagues. However, after listening to the Tribute until 0300 hours, I listened to One Click, which was really off the wall material, as I said in my review...then we got to Nemone on the Early Show, so I thought I would listen to see what she said about the previous night's Programming. It's interesting after listening to that much Programming and John's own voice, just how crap others sound. Nemone was very "Smashey "n" Nicey", "...can't wait until Xmas, I'm getting so excited..opening another gggreeeeaatttt page of the Radio 1 Advent Calendar this morning...",etc., you get the picture. Anyway, had to listen to a couple of appalling records, then the dire "Musical" content of the Show - Eminem, Lemarr, etc. - but was there one word to say what a great night it was last night, or well done to everyone involved with such a Programme? Not a word. Over 8 hours of quality Music Presentation and Programming didn't get a word of thanks or credit from a Presenter just separated by one Programme - to be fair she may have said something after I closed Real Player down, but I listened for a good 15 minutes...I wonder if Nemone will still be on Radio 1 in 37 years time? Maybe, I'm expecting too much? Keep It Peel. Goodnight. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ From janb@... Fri Dec 17 11:46:20 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:46:20 -0000 Subject: [peel] Am I Expecting Too Much?! References: Message-ID: <002901c4e425$a4d2fc70$2e90220a@...> On Friday, December 17, 2004 4:28 AM [GMT+1=CET], cynicaldj wrote: > Real Player down, but I listened for a good 15 minutes...I wonder if > Nemone will still be on Radio 1 in 37 years time? She'll do well to be there in 37 *months* time. *Noone* likes her. -- Jan From danbutt@... Fri Dec 17 12:52:34 2004 From: danbutt@... (iwasdamosuzuki) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:52:34 -0000 Subject: Keep It Peel Message-ID: Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from last night's shows (the equivalent of the old rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing was terrific. While we're on Peel samples in songs, two others are "Rubbish" by Carter USM ("What do you think of the programme so far?") and the bit at the start of "The Pooh Sticks" by the Pooh Sticks from 1988, which from memory is Peel going on about the Chesterfields. Dan From cynicaldj@... Fri Dec 17 12:54:17 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:54:17 -0000 Subject: Am I Expecting Too Much?! In-Reply-To: <002901c4e425$a4d2fc70$2e90220a@...> Message-ID: Do you know something about her I don't then Jan? Not hard. What I found particularly gauling (if that's the right spelling) was in their Tributes to John, Nemone said how John used to leave her with a bottle of red - or half a one - after his Programme for when she came into the Studio. How long does it take to say "...Thanks to all the team, Presenters, Engineers, Technical Staff, Hermeet, Louise, and the Ravenscroft Family, for putting the effort into "Keeping It Peel", to make it such a special night...on today's Programme we have Eminem, Coldplay...". Oh well. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ I wonder if > > Nemone will still be on Radio 1 in 37 years time? > > She'll do well to be there in 37 *months* time. *Noone* likes her. > > -- > Jan From martinw@... Fri Dec 17 14:40:38 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:40:38 +0000 Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041217133907.0341d9a0@...> At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra From martinw@... Fri Dec 17 14:38:57 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:38:57 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Am I Expecting Too Much?! In-Reply-To: References: <002901c4e425$a4d2fc70$2e90220a@...> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041217133233.033b3eb8@...> >What I found particularly gauling (if that's the right spelling) was >in their Tributes to John, Nemone said how John used to leave her >with a bottle of red - or half a one - after his Programme for when >she came into the Studio. How long does it take to say "...Thanks to >all the team, Presenters, Engineers, Technical Staff, Hermeet, >Louise, and the Ravenscroft Family, for putting the effort >into "Keeping It Peel", to make it such a special night...on today's >Programme we have Eminem, Coldplay...". Be realistic The tribute would have been recorded days ago and she probably never met the rest of the Peel team As someone who starts work regularly at 5AM and presumably gets up an hour or two earlier she's unlikely to stay up all night Probably she slept all through it! It would have been something that happened the previous day to her and nobody would have still been there to tell her about it martinw From morriso@... Fri Dec 17 17:10:58 2004 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:10:58 -0000 Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel. References: Message-ID: <001401c4e452$fee7ecc0$bd439b51@Andrew> Well, 'Teenage Kicks' won't even be in the Festive Fifty, as the tracks have to new releases or sessions from this year! I have a feeling there will be some strange selections in there, as all the publicity surrounding Peel's death no doubt sent web surfers towards the voting page of the website that won't have listened to the show for donkey's years (and whose musical taste will have since, er, "mellowed", shall we say). Rob Da Bank has already said they'd had votes for Keane and Joss Stone, for example. God knows what'll end up in there if it's not even occasional listeners that have been voting this year. Andy Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@btinternet.com Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: cynicaldj To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:33 PM Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel. Hello All, Tonight at 1900 hours on www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 for SEVEN hours is "Keep It Peel", Radio 1's Tribute to John Peel. Regarding the Festive Fifty, for my money call me old-fashioned and sentimental, I'd like to see Undertones - "Teenage Kicks", make the top spot, although I have reservations as to whether the Festive Fifty should even be run this year; let's face it, he's was getting tired of it himself, wasn't he?! My chief concern is that Radio 1 will use its "Keep It Peel" Tribute as the opportunity to say not only goodbye to John Peel, but the Peel Programme itself. What do you think? Anyway, I'm off to listen to "Keep It Peel". Goodnight. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From janb@... Fri Dec 17 17:33:02 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:33:02 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Am I Expecting Too Much?! References: Message-ID: <010701c4e456$142a1880$2e90220a@...> On Friday, December 17, 2004 11:54 AM [GMT+1=CET], cynicaldj wrote: > Do you know something about her I don't then Jan? Not gossip wise. Just that I've yet to meet a listener who likes her. Also that career wise she's done the weekend slot, she's got early breakfast (usually a staging ground for bigger things), next up should be a daytime slot...but I can't see her getting across. I wouldn't be surprised if R1 were to find another female jock in the sticks worthy of their attention. -- Jan From morriso@... Fri Dec 17 18:28:10 2004 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:28:10 -0000 Subject: Keep It Peel Message-ID: <003e01c4e45d$cad42a10$bd439b51@Andrew> I was lucky enough to be one of the two hundred or so in the audience at Maida Vale Studios last night for Radio 1's evening of live music in honour of Uncle John Peel, and an invigorating experience it was too, with enough bands and DJ sets in one five hour broadcast of live music to fill a reasonably-sized festival. Two studios at Maida Vale were taken over by a variety of sound engineers and presenters, with us audience members literally dashing between each one when it was a different act's turn to perform. Studio 3 was the largest of the two, with enough space to hold the entire audience, and three stages - for acoustic, electric and DJ performers - along one side of the lengthy hall. Studio 4 had the broadcast studio in which Steve Lamacq, Underworld and the Peel team presented and produced the show, as well as a viewing gantry for 40 or so audience members to watch the few bands that played in there, including Belle & Sebastian, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, the abrupt and raucous Trencher, and the angst-ridden and intense Steveless. As my involvement in the Peel shows was simply providing a few tongue-in-cheek "offensive content" warnings, it was rather cool to be watching all the performances in the company of such "icons" as Fergal Sharkey, Colin and Edith, Mary-Anne Hobbs (didn't realise how much of a fox she was until now, by the way), Annie Nightingale, the various band members involved, and John's wife and family. Not being the sort of person to fawn over celebrities, I chose to just have brief conversations with Peel's producer (and generally lovely person) Louise Kattenhorn and current Peel Show stand-in-presenter Rob Da Bank (real name Rob Gorham, and originally from Warsash, geography fans) who was extremely down-to-earth and laid back. Rob seems a pretty understated and "normal" guy, but refused point blank to tell me who has won this year's Festive Fifty. Talking of which, I have a sneaking suspicion that the recently-reform Wedding Present's new single 'Interstate 5' will have a high placing, and the only "artist" I plucked up enough courage to actually introduce myself to was The Man Gedge. Confirming that this was indeed the Weddoes first live performance for some seven years, he said the reason Cinerama have evolved back into The Wedding Present was basically that their sound got "louder" again, and an engineer at their Peel Session earlier this year reckoned they were sounding like their former moniker rather than Cinerama's more orchestrated sound. Whatever reason, it was good to have them back, albeit for just three songs, and they seemed to be the most sought-after band to watch. For those unable to cram into the smaller Studio 4, three video screens relayed the sound and pictures of the performers set up in there. In the larger studio we had acoustic, minimalistic performances from PJ Harvey (still singing - and looking - as great as she ever did), Damon Albarn, Graham Coxon and Nina Nastasia (who ended the "band" part of the night, getting a very emotional reaction from John's family members). On the electric side of the studio, it was great to see Hefner reformed for one night only - another one of those bands with a singer "who can't sing" that nevertheless performs great vocals. Welsh band Melys have long been one of my favourite bands, and they lived up to the literal "sweet" translation of their name with two new songs and former Festive Fifty number one 'Chinese Whispers' (which sounded fantastic, it has to be said). Even though the line up of bands was exceptional, the highlight of the night for me was the final ninety minutes, which was handed over to some truly top quality DJs. The "MC" in MC Dynamite for once could have stood for "Master of Ceremonies" rather than "Mic Controller", as he adjudicated a freestyle mixing session in which each DJ (or set of DJs) got just ten minutes to do their stuff. It led to an extraordinary collage of sounds and styles, with slick house from Dave Clark, to colossal Drum 'n' Bass from Hixxy, incorporating some gritty MC-led Grime, and dubby Alex Patterson beats along the way. I think the best thing about the DJs ending the night was that it really summed up John's shows from recent years - embracing the new and the different, rather than dismissing it as 'not being music, etc.' as many do. It all left me wondering how much a club promoter would have to spend to get all these well-established DJs in to play their sets professionally. Such an elite set of DJs in one place I shall never see again, I suspect. As humour so often played a part in John's musical choices, it was a hilarious end to the DJ's sets to see DJ Scotch Egg running around 'performing' his idiosyncratic style of hard house with just his minuscule (and retro) Gameboy blasting out the music, while he shouted abuse at the audience through a loudhailer into his microphone. This was abruptly halted, and followed by what can only be described as a genius set from DJ Shitmat, who mixes entirely on his laptop, crashing together TV themes, bits of speech and jungle and old school beats with such fast-paced precision and energetic enthusiasm, you can't help but either smile, or laugh hysterically. From the ridiculous to the sublime, Underworld calmed us down with ten minutes of ambient pads, before this perfect tribute night to John was over. The best thing about the whole evening was the eclecticism of the artists involved - and how close-up I could view them. I could hear PJ Harvey slapping her thighs in time with the songs that she didn't play guitar on, and watch Dave Clarke's intricate mixing work during his DJ set. When the DJs took over, various band members, Radio 1 presenters, listeners and staff turned Madia Vale Studio 3 into an impromptu night club - hell, even I was dancing at one point: I think it was during the Happy Hardcore. The last hour and a half of the night was eerily reminiscent of the 'last night of the Hacienda' scene from '24 Hour Party People', with loads of familiar, smiling faces dancing and remembering earlier good times, despite the current sadness. Just as in that movie scene, where the late Ian Curtis is seen joining in on the dancefloor, I couldn't help but half expect John himself to be wandering around the edges of the studio, looking on with a pint of beer in his hand. But definitely not dancing. Where the musicians made us sad for the loss of John, the DJs made us happy for all the cool and crazy music John helped feed to us. I only wish every night out clubbing could instil such a sense of fun and positivity into people. An enjoyable night, in recognition of a sad occurrence. Left me wondering how many mad, manic and majestic new bands I'll be missing out on - let's hope Radio 1 do him justice when they decide how to continue his legacy in the New Year. For those who missed it, the show can be streamed in three parts - and loads of photos viewed - at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel/. It was an honour to be invited, it really was. After returning from London this morning, I find 65 Days Of Static's 'The Fall Of Math' in the post, marking the incredible milestone of bringing the grand total of tracks in my record collection to 10,000! Congratulations to them - the last track on the album holds that accolade. I have pre-ordered one of those new fanged Sony 'Network Walkmans' from Amazon, and have already downloaded its file conversion software and begun transferring all my CDs into the ATRAC format on my PC to eventually download into the Walkman. I may be some time... But it'll be nifty to have all my CD collection in my pocket when I'm out and about. A CD collection that would have been 50% smaller had John Peel's shows never affected my musical habits. Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk From janb@... Fri Dec 17 18:55:19 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:55:19 -0000 Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel References: <003e01c4e45d$cad42a10$bd439b51@Andrew> Message-ID: <014101c4e461$92d88300$2e90220a@...> On Friday, December 17, 2004 5:28 PM [GMT+1=CET], Andrew Morrison wrote: > For those unable to cram into the smaller Studio 4, three video > screens relayed the sound and pictures of the performers set up in > there. In the larger studio we had acoustic, minimalistic > performances from PJ Harvey (still singing - and looking - as great > as she ever did), I though she was good as well listening at home. Clearly not everyone did though, this is from someone from the Hefner list (who got to go because he was the only person with the wit to email Darren), The other funny thing I remember came at the end of PJ Harvey's set. Darren lent over to me and said "What did you think of her then?", to which I replied "Really good. I've never seen her before." His response? "I think it's all complete bollocks!" > Damon Albarn, Graham Coxon In the same room? Any interaction? I thought Coxon was very good BTW. -- Jan From garry_latham@... Fri Dec 17 19:11:58 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:11:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041217181158.8851.qmail@...> Well this could be the start of a list iwasdamosuzuki wrote: While we're on Peel samples in songs, two others are "Rubbish" by Carter USM ("What do you think of the programme so far?") and the bit at the start of "The Pooh Sticks" by the Pooh Sticks from 1988, which from memory is Peel going on about the Chesterfields. Dan Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger From garry_latham@... Fri Dec 17 19:18:43 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041217133907.0341d9a0@...> Message-ID: <20041217181843.54671.qmail@...> How do you these addresses? Martin Wheatley wrote:At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! From garry_latham@... Fri Dec 17 19:43:31 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:43:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <003e01c4e45d$cad42a10$bd439b51@Andrew> Message-ID: <20041217184331.82537.qmail@...> Great review Andrew. I was reading it as I listened to Shitmat & Shotch Egg off the site nad must have been the highlight of the dj sets. Of the bands The Wedoes were my favs last night. Good to have 'em back. Trencher were good as well, especially the Napalm Death cover! Although I shouldnt forget about Mely's wonderful 'Chinese Whispers'. It was great, wasn't it? The most emotive highlights for me had to be just hearing John's voice in the doc', and Sheila introducing the Amsterdam tune. Her words and tone of her said it all for us. Garry. Andrew Morrison wrote: I was lucky enough to be one of the two hundred or so in the audience at Maida Vale Studios last night for Radio 1's evening of live music in honour of Uncle John Peel, and an invigorating experience it was too, with enough bands and DJ sets in one five hour broadcast of live music to fill a reasonably-sized festival. Two studios at Maida Vale were taken over by a variety of sound engineers and presenters, with us audience members literally dashing between each one when it was a different act's turn to perform. Studio 3 was the largest of the two, with enough space to hold the entire audience, and three stages - for acoustic, electric and DJ performers - along one side of the lengthy hall. Studio 4 had the broadcast studio in which Steve Lamacq, Underworld and the Peel team presented and produced the show, as well as a viewing gantry for 40 or so audience members to watch the few bands that played in there, including Belle & Sebastian, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, the abrupt and raucous Trencher, and the angst-ridden and intense Steveless. As my involvement in the Peel shows was simply providing a few tongue-in-cheek "offensive content" warnings, it was rather cool to be watching all the performances in the company of such "icons" as Fergal Sharkey, Colin and Edith, Mary-Anne Hobbs (didn't realise how much of a fox she was until now, by the way), Annie Nightingale, the various band members involved, and John's wife and family. Not being the sort of person to fawn over celebrities, I chose to just have brief conversations with Peel's producer (and generally lovely person) Louise Kattenhorn and current Peel Show stand-in-presenter Rob Da Bank (real name Rob Gorham, and originally from Warsash, geography fans) who was extremely down-to-earth and laid back. Rob seems a pretty understated and "normal" guy, but refused point blank to tell me who has won this year's Festive Fifty. Talking of which, I have a sneaking suspicion that the recently-reform Wedding Present's new single 'Interstate 5' will have a high placing, and the only "artist" I plucked up enough courage to actually introduce myself to was The Man Gedge. Confirming that this was indeed the Weddoes first live performance for some seven years, he said the reason Cinerama have evolved back into The Wedding Present was basically that their sound got "louder" again, and an engineer at their Peel Session earlier this year reckoned they were sounding like their former moniker rather than Cinerama's more orchestrated sound. Whatever reason, it was good to have them back, albeit for just three songs, and they seemed to be the most sought-after band to watch. For those unable to cram into the smaller Studio 4, three video screens relayed the sound and pictures of the performers set up in there. In the larger studio we had acoustic, minimalistic performances from PJ Harvey (still singing - and looking - as great as she ever did), Damon Albarn, Graham Coxon and Nina Nastasia (who ended the "band" part of the night, getting a very emotional reaction from John's family members). On the electric side of the studio, it was great to see Hefner reformed for one night only - another one of those bands with a singer "who can't sing" that nevertheless performs great vocals. Welsh band Melys have long been one of my favourite bands, and they lived up to the literal "sweet" translation of their name with two new songs and former Festive Fifty number one 'Chinese Whispers' (which sounded fantastic, it has to be said). Even though the line up of bands was exceptional, the highlight of the night for me was the final ninety minutes, which was handed over to some truly top quality DJs. The "MC" in MC Dynamite for once could have stood for "Master of Ceremonies" rather than "Mic Controller", as he adjudicated a freestyle mixing session in which each DJ (or set of DJs) got just ten minutes to do their stuff. It led to an extraordinary collage of sounds and styles, with slick house from Dave Clark, to colossal Drum 'n' Bass from Hixxy, incorporating some gritty MC-led Grime, and dubby Alex Patterson beats along the way. I think the best thing about the DJs ending the night was that it really summed up John's shows from recent years - embracing the new and the different, rather than dismissing it as 'not being music, etc.' as many do. It all left me wondering how much a club promoter would have to spend to get all these well-established DJs in to play their sets professionally. Such an elite set of DJs in one place I shall never see again, I suspect. As humour so often played a part in John's musical choices, it was a hilarious end to the DJ's sets to see DJ Scotch Egg running around 'performing' his idiosyncratic style of hard house with just his minuscule (and retro) Gameboy blasting out the music, while he shouted abuse at the audience through a loudhailer into his microphone. This was abruptly halted, and followed by what can only be described as a genius set from DJ Shitmat, who mixes entirely on his laptop, crashing together TV themes, bits of speech and jungle and old school beats with such fast-paced precision and energetic enthusiasm, you can't help but either smile, or laugh hysterically. From the ridiculous to the sublime, Underworld calmed us down with ten minutes of ambient pads, before this perfect tribute night to John was over. The best thing about the whole evening was the eclecticism of the artists involved - and how close-up I could view them. I could hear PJ Harvey slapping her thighs in time with the songs that she didn't play guitar on, and watch Dave Clarke's intricate mixing work during his DJ set. When the DJs took over, various band members, Radio 1 presenters, listeners and staff turned Madia Vale Studio 3 into an impromptu night club - hell, even I was dancing at one point: I think it was during the Happy Hardcore. The last hour and a half of the night was eerily reminiscent of the 'last night of the Hacienda' scene from '24 Hour Party People', with loads of familiar, smiling faces dancing and remembering earlier good times, despite the current sadness. Just as in that movie scene, where the late Ian Curtis is seen joining in on the dancefloor, I couldn't help but half expect John himself to be wandering around the edges of the studio, looking on with a pint of beer in his hand. But definitely not dancing. Where the musicians made us sad for the loss of John, the DJs made us happy for all the cool and crazy music John helped feed to us. I only wish every night out clubbing could instil such a sense of fun and positivity into people. An enjoyable night, in recognition of a sad occurrence. Left me wondering how many mad, manic and majestic new bands I'll be missing out on - let's hope Radio 1 do him justice when they decide how to continue his legacy in the New Year. For those who missed it, the show can be streamed in three parts - and loads of photos viewed - at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel/. It was an honour to be invited, it really was. After returning from London this morning, I find 65 Days Of Static's 'The Fall Of Math' in the post, marking the incredible milestone of bringing the grand total of tracks in my record collection to 10,000! Congratulations to them - the last track on the album holds that accolade. I have pre-ordered one of those new fanged Sony 'Network Walkmans' from Amazon, and have already downloaded its file conversion software and begun transferring all my CDs into the ATRAC format on my PC to eventually download into the Walkman. I may be some time... But it'll be nifty to have all my CD collection in my pocket when I'm out and about. A CD collection that would have been 50% smaller had John Peel's shows never affected my musical habits. Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger From garry_latham@... Fri Dec 17 19:46:35 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:46:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <20041217181843.54671.qmail@...> Message-ID: <20041217184635.58120.qmail@...> Oops! That was meant to say: How do you use these addresses? Sorry if this comes over as a repost Garry Latham wrote: How do you these addresses? Martin Wheatley wrote: At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! From iaparkin@... Fri Dec 17 19:51:42 2004 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:51:42 -0000 Subject: peel tribute show In-Reply-To: <6d.3ac98017.2ef37ab6@...> Message-ID: > on Dublins XFM. >> Is it streamable? http://www.xfmdublin.com/ http://www.xfmdublin.com/dud/dudleypeeltribute.rm IAP From iaparkin@... Fri Dec 17 19:59:55 2004 From: iaparkin@... (iaparkin) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:59:55 -0000 Subject: Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <20041217184635.58120.qmail@...> Message-ID: > Garry Latham wrote: > How do you these addresses? One use is to use something like streambox VCR or offline explorer to download them to your PC in faster than realtime. That way you have them forever and a day for your future use. IAP From brettmcl@... Fri Dec 17 20:17:55 2004 From: brettmcl@... (bleggy2004) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:17:55 -0000 Subject: 27/10/04 Message-ID: Does anyone have a copy of the show from 27/10/04? Even though he was absent, the song selection was so quintessentially John. Please contact offline. Thanks. Brett From garry_latham@... Sat Dec 18 01:55:06 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:55:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041218005506.21649.qmail@...> Thanks, I tried the obvious like Getright and IE and got nowhere. iaparkin wrote: > Garry Latham wrote: > How do you these addresses? One use is to use something like streambox VCR or offline explorer to download them to your PC in faster than realtime. That way you have them forever and a day for your future use. IAP Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger From rockerq@... Sat Dec 18 02:19:11 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:19:11 EST Subject: [peel] Re: Am I Expecting Too Much?! Message-ID: <89.1c6b9579.2ef4df8f@...> << The tribute would have been recorded days ago >> I thought it was all live! (Except the documentary) Rocker From martinw@... Sat Dec 18 10:03:00 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:03:00 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <20041218005506.21649.qmail@...> References: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041218090047.031e0fd8@...> At 00:55 18/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks, I tried the obvious like Getright and IE and got nowhere. > >iaparkin wrote: Net Transport http://lycos26486.l97.lycos.com.cn/default.htm Will download Real Audio stuff - in fact I tested one of the links out in that before I posted it martinw From garry_latham@... Sat Dec 18 13:49:54 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:49:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Re: Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041218090047.031e0fd8@...> Message-ID: <20041218124954.18663.qmail@...> Thanks, I'll try it if SteamBox VCR doesn't work, it's downloading the doc right now. Martin Wheatley wrote:At 00:55 18/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks, I tried the obvious like Getright and IE and got nowhere. > >iaparkin wrote: Net Transport http://lycos26486.l97.lycos.com.cn/default.htm Will download Real Audio stuff - in fact I tested one of the links out in that before I posted it martinw Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger From garry_latham@... Sat Dec 18 14:19:03 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:19:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041217133907.0341d9a0@...> Message-ID: <20041218131903.4461.qmail@...> Thanks Martin for the link, and iaparkin for SteamBox it worked a treat. Now Martin how did you acquire the links? Martin Wheatley wrote:At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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(Robert Ward) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 07:07:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] 27/10/04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041218150727.6142.qmail@...> hi bleggy, i have it you can connect to it with any ftp client (there's free one here - http://www.internet-soft.com/download.htm) I don't know if you know how to use them so here goes, create a new connection, call it whatever name you like, the address is my IP '84.66.69.104' the login is 'bobqa' and the password is 'qweasd' and you just pull the files across let me know if it works, it's my first attempt at ftp servering cheers bob --- bleggy2004 wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of the show from 27/10/04? > Even though he was absent, the > song selection was so quintessentially John. > > Please contact offline. Thanks. > > Brett > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From r0bertward@... Sat Dec 18 16:13:03 2004 From: r0bertward@... (r0bertward) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:13:03 -0000 Subject: 27/10/04 In-Reply-To: <20041218150727.6142.qmail@...> Message-ID: nuts, i sent that to the group by mistake, sorry, so i've changed the psw, not that i wouldn't want anyone to have it you understand, but there's a protocol and all that --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, Robert Ward wrote: > hi bleggy, > > i have it > > you can connect to it with any ftp client (there's > free one here - > http://www.internet-soft.com/download.htm) > I don't know if you know how to use them so here goes, > create a new connection, call it whatever name you > like, the address is my IP '84.66.69.104' the login is > 'bobqa' and the password is 'qweasd' > and you just pull the files across > > let me know if it works, it's my first attempt at ftp > servering > > cheers > bob > > > > --- bleggy2004 wrote: > > > > > Does anyone have a copy of the show from 27/10/04? > > Even though he was absent, the > > song selection was so quintessentially John. > > > > Please contact offline. Thanks. > > > > Brett > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From martinw@... Sat Dec 18 16:38:33 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:38:33 +0000 Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <20041218131903.4461.qmail@...> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20041217133907.0341d9a0@...> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041218152943.031e1080@...> At 13:19 18/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks Martin for the link, and iaparkin for SteamBox it worked a >treat. Now Martin how did you acquire the links? There is a trick! Go to the BBC Player Run your mouse over one of the links and a URL appears at the bottom of your browser (or at least it does on mine This link is such is no use to you it just to a piece of code not the file BUT the last part of the link after the? is the end of the file name. So stick it into this URL instead of r1peelpt2 and you have the file link! >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra martinw From morriso@... Sat Dec 18 18:05:28 2004 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:05:28 -0000 Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel References: <003e01c4e45d$cad42a10$bd439b51@Andrew> <014101c4e461$92d88300$2e90220a@...> Message-ID: <001401c4e523$c62adb50$9a439b51@Andrew> Yeah, Coxon was great - his guitar playing can make it sound like two acoustics going at once sometimes - chordal strummings plus picking out melodies. He spent some time hanging around in the studio that was serving drinks and snacks, but Damon (like Polly) didn't really seem to hang out before or after their sets - if they did, I didn't see them. The Shelia/Amsterdam dedication was very poignant, as that was the song I most associate with John (even more so than 'Teenage Kicks') and I've been tryingto track it down for ages. Amsterdam are now signed up to a new label called Beat Crazy Records, and 'Does This Train...' will finally be released as a single next year (as John had hoped, for such a long time). A classic song, and a real tear jerker when played through Maida Vale's loud speakers on the night - everyone stopped and went silent when Sheila spoke and the record got played. We were all really listening to the lyrics. I got Rob Da Bank to play it on air in the weeks following John's death, and it was unsettling that Sheila picked the same track to sum him up. I only hope the song gets the success it deserves in 2005. Andy Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@btinternet.com Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Buxton To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Keep It Peel On Friday, December 17, 2004 5:28 PM [GMT+1=CET], Andrew Morrison wrote: > For those unable to cram into the smaller Studio 4, three video > screens relayed the sound and pictures of the performers set up in > there. In the larger studio we had acoustic, minimalistic > performances from PJ Harvey (still singing - and looking - as great > as she ever did), I though she was good as well listening at home. Clearly not everyone did though, this is from someone from the Hefner list (who got to go because he was the only person with the wit to email Darren), The other funny thing I remember came at the end of PJ Harvey's set. Darren lent over to me and said "What did you think of her then?", to which I replied "Really good. I've never seen her before." His response? "I think it's all complete bollocks!" > Damon Albarn, Graham Coxon In the same room? Any interaction? I thought Coxon was very good BTW. -- Jan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From garry_latham@... Sat Dec 18 18:11:35 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:11:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20041218152943.031e1080@...> Message-ID: <20041218171135.69563.qmail@...> With a little play I see what you mean. Thanks again. Garry Martin Wheatley wrote: At 13:19 18/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks Martin for the link, and iaparkin for SteamBox it worked a >treat. Now Martin how did you acquire the links? There is a trick! Go to the BBC Player Run your mouse over one of the links and a URL appears at the bottom of your browser (or at least it does on mine This link is such is no use to you it just to a piece of code not the file BUT the last part of the link after the? is the end of the file name. So stick it into this URL instead of r1peelpt2 and you have the file link! >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra martinw Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! From dave@... Sun Dec 19 02:49:20 2004 From: dave@... (Dave Chapman) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:49:20 +0000 Subject: Keep It Peel bittorrent Message-ID: <41C4DE20.4080407@...> I recorded the whole 8 hours of Keep it Peel (the "official" 6 hours, plus Annie Nightingale), and am currently sharing it via bittorrent. It's available here: http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=24349 You will have to register on that site, but as their email server is currently broken, you don't get sent a confirmation email. I've split the long 8 hour recording into 7 equal parts, each one small enough to be burnt to CD if you want. I've also include "cue files", which most CD burning software can use to write the track marks on the CD, and the "foobar2000" audio player can do the same thing when you play the file on your PC. Total download size is a little under 700MB - it's recorded from digital radio (satellite), and consists of the original "MP2" data. So the quality is excellent - listening to this recording is exactly the same quality as listening to live digital satellite radio. Hope this is useful to someone - I haven't seen bittorrent mentioned on this list very much. If you haven't used bittorrent before, a good place to start is here: http://dessent.net/btfaq/ Dave. From chris.lane@... Mon Dec 20 11:18:37 2004 From: chris.lane@... (Chris Lane) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:18:37 -0000 Subject: Streambox - was Keep It Peel Message-ID: I keep getting "Connecting error 10054, Connection reset by Peer" messages when I try so I guess that could be our firewall - although I can listen live to the BBC streaming content so I'm not sure what the difference mihgt be - any ideas anyone? P.S. I have just this morning received a record I've been trying to get my hands on since I heard it as no.50 in the 1995 F50 - You Can't by Safe Deposit - thanks to a seller on Netsoundsmusic.com _____ From: Garry Latham [mailto:garry_latham@...] Sent: 18 December 2004 13:19 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Keep It Peel Thanks Martin for the link, and iaparkin for SteamBox it worked a treat. Now Martin how did you acquire the links? Martin Wheatley wrote: At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra _____ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . This email originated externally and has been scanned by MessageLabs ______________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com From rlawson@... Mon Dec 20 11:38:50 2004 From: rlawson@... (cr lawson) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:38:50 +0800 Subject: [peel] Streambox - was Keep It Peel References: Message-ID: <41C6ABBA.DDB2670D@...> From esinclai@... Mon Dec 20 13:47:11 2004 From: esinclai@... (Eric Sinclair) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:47:11 -0600 Subject: [peel] Keep It Peel bittorrent In-Reply-To: <41C4DE20.4080407@...> References: <41C4DE20.4080407@...> Message-ID: <44759026-5285-11D9-B2CB-000A956859A6@...> Just a quick thanks to Dave for putting this together and then up online. I can confirm that the mp2 files will be readily accepted by iTunes (handy) (though they needed a bit of reID3ing), and that there is a steady stream of people grabbing the torrent still - there's been a handful of peers for the files over the weekend. -Eric On Dec 18, 2004, at 7:49 PM, Dave Chapman wrote: > I recorded the whole 8 hours of Keep it Peel (the "official" 6 hours, > plus Annie Nightingale), and am currently sharing it via bittorrent. > > It's available here: > > http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=24349 [...] -- esinclai@... aim: esinclai http://www.kittyjoyce.com/eric/log/ From andy.irvine@... Mon Dec 20 14:43:52 2004 From: andy.irvine@... (Andy Irvine) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:43:52 -0000 Subject: [peel] Streambox - was Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <41C6ABBA.DDB2670D@...> Message-ID: Afternoon. Apologies for pushing this one further into techy help forum territory, but does anyone know how to convert my newly-acquired .ra files into .mp3 (or anything else, really) without simply recording the RealPlayer output real-time? Or does the RealAudio format's copyright thing rule that out? (in case anyone is interested, I failed with StreamBox but succeeded with Net Transport) Ta! (and sorry again) -----Original Message----- From: cr lawson [mailto:rlawson@...] Sent: 20 December 2004 10:39 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Streambox - was Keep It Peel great single.....i managed to get a copy through CD zone http://www.cdzone.co.uk/ i also have another 12" by them but not as impressive... just listening to the last part of the tribute evening through the web site...it was superb ! Chris Lane wrote: I keep getting "Connecting error 10054, Connection reset by Peer" messages when I try so I guess that could be our firewall - although I can listen live to the BBC streaming content so I'm not sure what the difference mihgt be - any ideas anyone? P.S. I have just this morning received a record I've been trying to get my hands on since I heard it as no.50 in the 1995 F50 - You Can't by Safe Deposit - thanks to a seller on Netsoundsmusic.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Garry Latham [mailto:garry_latham@...] Sent: 18 December 2004 13:19 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Keep It Peel Thanks Martin for the link, and iaparkin for SteamBox it worked a treat. Now Martin how did you acquire the links? Martin Wheatley wrote: At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra From garry_latham@... Mon Dec 20 17:33:30 2004 From: garry_latham@... (Garry Latham) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:33:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Streambox - was Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041220163330.84739.qmail@...> You need the latest version of StreamBox (v2), as it has StreamBox Ripper bundled with it, and that can convert .ra files into .wav files. From there you just need something that can convert wav to mp3, and there plenty of them on the web. Garry Andy Irvine wrote: Afternoon. Apologies for pushing this one further into techy help forum territory, but does anyone know how to convert my newly-acquired .ra files into .mp3 (or anything else, really) without simply recording the RealPlayer output real-time? Or does the RealAudio format's copyright thing rule that out? (in case anyone is interested, I failed with StreamBox but succeeded with Net Transport) Ta! (and sorry again) -----Original Message----- From: cr lawson [mailto:rlawson@...] Sent: 20 December 2004 10:39 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Streambox - was Keep It Peel great single.....i managed to get a copy through CD zone http://www.cdzone.co.uk/ i also have another 12" by them but not as impressive... just listening to the last part of the tribute evening through the web site...it was superb ! Chris Lane wrote: I keep getting "Connecting error 10054, Connection reset by Peer" messages when I try so I guess that could be our firewall - although I can listen live to the BBC streaming content so I'm not sure what the difference mihgt be - any ideas anyone? P.S. I have just this morning received a record I've been trying to get my hands on since I heard it as no.50 in the 1995 F50 - You Can't by Safe Deposit - thanks to a seller on Netsoundsmusic.com --------------------------------- From: Garry Latham [mailto:garry_latham@...] Sent: 18 December 2004 13:19 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [peel] Keep It Peel Thanks Martin for the link, and iaparkin for SteamBox it worked a treat. Now Martin how did you acquire the links? Martin Wheatley wrote: At 11:52 17/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Could some kind soul who is cleverer than I post the file names from >last night's shows (the equivalent of the old >rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra)? I thought the whole thing >was terrific. > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt1.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt2.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1peelpt3.ra Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: peel-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! From martinw@... Mon Dec 20 20:36:26 2004 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:36:26 +0000 Subject: [peel] Streambox - was Keep It Peel In-Reply-To: <20041220163330.84739.qmail@...> References: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20041220193156.00c6c0b8@...> At 16:33 20/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: >You need the latest version of StreamBox (v2), as it has StreamBox Ripper >bundled with it, and that can convert .ra files into .wav files. From >there you just need something that can convert wav to mp3, and there >plenty of them on the web. The version of Streambox Ripper which I have 2.009 will convert .ra files to .wav or.mp3 at faster than playing time. But I understand there is a more recent version which doesn't (Real Audio's men with formal letters having paid a visit!) You do have to have the RealAudio codecs on your computer for it to work though martinw From adyfoley@... Wed Dec 22 16:37:59 2004 From: adyfoley@... (ady foley) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:37:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Keeping It Peel Message-ID: <20041222153759.93266.qmail@...> Hi all, Sadly i missed most of the show so it was nice to read the reports on the tribute show last week. I was driving off to a gig and only caught part of the documentary, including the playback of John mentioning his holiday and hoping to be back in November fully refreshed which was most poignant. Then on my way home i managed to catch the Wedding Present and Nina Nastasia sets which were also very fitting. Hearing Nina, I was reminded of the ATP festival which John of course had attended a couple of times, and earlier this month at the festival, Shellac had dedicated their song (and their set) the End of Radio to the memory of John to many cheers from the crowd which was a really nice moment. With Lightning Bolt and The Fall also playing amongst others, John's spirit was definitely there too. I was also speaking with a friend the other day about the time we'd met John, (separately and albeit briefly) and how he'd made us laugh with so few words but had also made such an impact on us. We agreed then to keep it Peel in our own way, which we will be doing. Anyway, sorry to be so verbose, I'll get back to the main reason for my post which was these couple of links... the first of which is a review of last weeks show: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/story.jsp?story=594032 and the other is a feature on John's funeral with comments from friends and family by Mark Ellen from next month's Word magazine: http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/johnpeel.pdf all the best Ady ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From bill.spiby@... Thu Dec 23 20:09:47 2004 From: bill.spiby@... (spib2003) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:09:47 -0000 Subject: Spiritualized Message-ID: Does anybody have, or alternatively can they direct me to somewhere that I could obtain a copy of Spiritualized - Oh Happy Day (Meltdown Version)(Live at the Royal Festival Hall) as featured in 1998's Festive 50 and of course not to be confused with their Live at the Royal Albert Hall commercially available version? By the way Rob certainly went up in my estimation last week by playing a track by my old band First Offence. The track in question was Drugs and was in fact the Peel Session version, although this was not stated and is described as a white label on the BBCi tracklistings. From lists@... Sat Dec 25 10:19:03 2004 From: lists@... (lists) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:19:03 -0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 879 In-Reply-To: <1103937638.136.28791.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20041225091856.6BD77FCC8@...> Hi Bill, If you let us have your postal address I'll drop a complete copy of 1998's Festive Fifty in the post for you. Regards Gary -----Original Message----- From: peel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peel@yahoogroups.com] Sent: 25 December 2004 01:21 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] Digest Number 879 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Listen to Internet Radio! Access to your favorite Artists! Click to listen to LAUNCHcast now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/PXvbED/GARHAA/n1hLAA/JPJolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Spiritualized From: "spib2003" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:09:47 -0000 From: "spib2003" Subject: Spiritualized Does anybody have, or alternatively can they direct me to somewhere that I could obtain a copy of Spiritualized - Oh Happy Day (Meltdown Version)(Live at the Royal Festival Hall) as featured in 1998's Festive 50 and of course not to be confused with their Live at the Royal Albert Hall commercially available version? By the way Rob certainly went up in my estimation last week by playing a track by my old band First Offence. The track in question was Drugs and was in fact the Peel Session version, although this was not stated and is described as a white label on the BBCi tracklistings. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From alan@... Sat Dec 25 12:47:43 2004 From: alan@... (Alan Ford) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:47:43 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Books References: <000701c4e038$61aaf240$29fa86d9@pb1996> Message-ID: <001701c4ea77$8d96e1e0$8aef86d9@pb1996> Merry Christmas all. I've just been given the Heatley book and, judging from the print size, even I should be able to read it quite quickly. I never was very good at book reports, but I'll let you know what I think. Cheers Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Ford To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:50 AM Subject: [peel] Peel Books > > JOHN PEEL > by Mick Wall > > JOHN PEEL: A Life in Music > by Michael Heatley > > Extracts from reviews by Clive Selwood in today's Sunday Times: > > "Since John Peel's life was such an open book, the motivation behind rushing > two unauthorised biographies into print so soon after his death is open to > question. Perhaps hundreds of potential readers are eager for inside stories > and scandalous revelations. In that respect, these books may disappoint. " > > "Mick Wall's book is an earnest, affectionate trawl through the archives > with comments from some of the thousands whose lives Peel touched. Somewhat > one-dimensional, it comes alive when quoting Peel's writing. " > > "Michael Heatley's book, on the other hand, is, quite simply, stunning. > Often drawing on the same sources, he manages to convey some of the urgency > and excitement of Peel's radio programmes. Given the short time frame, it is > a monumental achievement, and essential reading for all those whose tastes > Peel influenced over so many years. " > > "For the real story and that extraordinarily intimate combination of wit and > self-deprecating irony we shall have to await "Dancing Jack"Peel's > autobiography, of which he had completed 50-70,000 words. I do hope whoever > finishes it is as honest and open as the man himself. " > > It also adds > > "Clive Selwood introduced John Peel to Radio 1 in 1967. Together they set up > Dandelion Records in 1969 and remained close friends and business partners > for 37 years" > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From festive50@... Sat Dec 25 15:22:20 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:22:20 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Peel Books In-Reply-To: <001701c4ea77$8d96e1e0$8aef86d9@pb1996> References: <000701c4e038$61aaf240$29fa86d9@pb1996> <001701c4ea77$8d96e1e0$8aef86d9@pb1996> Message-ID: <16244.195.188.213.35.1103984540.squirrel@195.188.213.35> Merry Christmas all. I was likewise given the Heatley book for Christmas. I may find something in it that I didn't already know. Cheers Phil > > Merry Christmas all. > I've just been given the Heatley book and, judging from the print size, > even > I should be able to read it quite quickly. > I never was very good at book reports, but I'll let you know what I think. > Cheers > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Ford > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:50 AM > Subject: [peel] Peel Books > > >> >> JOHN PEEL >> by Mick Wall >> >> JOHN PEEL: A Life in Music >> by Michael Heatley >> >> Extracts from reviews by Clive Selwood in today's Sunday Times: >> >> "Since John Peel's life was such an open book, the motivation behind > rushing >> two unauthorised biographies into print so soon after his death is open >> to >> question. Perhaps hundreds of potential readers are eager for inside > stories >> and scandalous revelations. In that respect, these books may disappoint. >> " >> >> "Mick Wall's book is an earnest, affectionate trawl through the archives >> with comments from some of the thousands whose lives Peel touched. > Somewhat >> one-dimensional, it comes alive when quoting Peel's writing. " >> >> "Michael Heatley's book, on the other hand, is, quite simply, stunning. >> Often drawing on the same sources, he manages to convey some of the > urgency >> and excitement of Peel's radio programmes. Given the short time frame, >> it > is >> a monumental achievement, and essential reading for all those whose >> tastes >> Peel influenced over so many years. " >> >> "For the real story and that extraordinarily intimate combination of wit > and >> self-deprecating irony we shall have to await "Dancing Jack"Peel's >> autobiography, of which he had completed 50-70,000 words. I do hope > whoever >> finishes it is as honest and open as the man himself. " >> >> It also adds >> >> "Clive Selwood introduced John Peel to Radio 1 in 1967. Together they >> set > up >> Dandelion Records in 1969 and remained close friends and business >> partners >> for 37 years" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From npu65@... Sat Dec 25 15:28:31 2004 From: npu65@... (Nigel U) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:28:31 -0000 Subject: [peel] Peel Books References: <000701c4e038$61aaf240$29fa86d9@pb1996> <001701c4ea77$8d96e1e0$8aef86d9@pb1996> <16244.195.188.213.35.1103984540.squirrel@195.188.213.35> Message-ID: <009201c4ea8e$02337980$a3832652@yourcmnwt84cv8> Funnily enough, although I didn't get any of the Peel books (since I'm happy to wait for the 'proper' one), I did get a WH Smith football gift set (pocket radio and book) from my girlfriend's eldest daughter, which was also written by Michael Heatley. Is there no end to the man's talents? ;-) Compliments of the season to all, and roll on the Festive 50, which should be a somewhat bittersweet occasion. Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [peel] Peel Books > > Merry Christmas all. > I was likewise given the Heatley book for Christmas. > I may find something in it that I didn't already know. > Cheers > Phil > >> >> Merry Christmas all. >> I've just been given the Heatley book and, judging from the print size, >> even >> I should be able to read it quite quickly. >> I never was very good at book reports, but I'll let you know what I >> think. >> Cheers >> Alan From dave@... Sat Dec 25 23:23:50 2004 From: dave@... (Dave Chapman) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:23:50 +0000 Subject: January's schedule Message-ID: <41CDE876.9090101@...> http://www.mydigiguide.com now has the Radio One schedule for the first week in January. Looks like it is goodbye to Rob - "One World" is listed as being on from 11pm-1am Tuesday-Thursday. But the BBC's website doesn't mention it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/oneworld/index.shtml Dave. From danbutt@... Mon Dec 27 11:32:57 2004 From: danbutt@... (iwasdamosuzuki) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:32:57 -0000 Subject: John Peel's Records of 2004 Message-ID: Repost from http://www.lnreview.co.uk/music/004777.php For those of us who have grown up obsessed with John Peel's annual Festive Fifty, Christmas 2004 will be unlike any since 1975 (with qualified exceptions for 1977 and 1991). 11pm to 1am of the 28th, 29th and 30th of December will see Rob Da Bank present the last ever Festive Fifty (or, at least, the last to be largely based on songs played throughout the year by Peel.) Voting has, apparently, been eccentric, with a number of people drawn to to the online voting form by the publicity surrounding Peel's death. So we may yet see Marroon 5 slugging it out with Melt Banana. But though the Festive Fifty provides the listeners' take on proceedings, Peel would often lament both its over-reliance on white skinny indie kids and the fact that several tracks he personally favoured would not make it in. But how to know what the great man himself would have voted for? Well, simply spend an afternoon cutting and pasting the tracklistings of each of his shows into an Excel spreadsheet, sort 'em alphabetically, count which songs got played the most, and hey preto! ACME proudly presents Peely's top fifteen records of the year: 5 Plays: Delgados - Everybody Come Down Electrelane - This Deed Mint Chicks - Blue Team Go! The Vaults - Straight-faced 4 Plays: 22-20s - Why Don't You Do It To Me? Bloc Party - Banquet Breeze and Styles - Electric Cornershop presents Bubbly Kaur - Topknot DJ Garna - Wonky Vocal Hakan Lidbo - Clockwise King Honey - Plectrum Little Killers - You Got It Made Melys - Eyeliner Wizzbit - Emerald City Yourcodeameis:Milo - All Roads To Fault Note: The idea for this is nicked wholesale from the splendid Radio Plus website, who link to legal mp3 downloads of tracks played on the Peel show. They've performed a similar exercise in the past, but, understandably, haven't done so this year. From mar.celle@... Mon Dec 27 13:43:22 2004 From: mar.celle@... (Marcelle van Hoof) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:43:22 +0100 Subject: Peel on cd and internet radio this (and every) monday References: <1104052795.343.69786.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <007001c4ec11$a6ea7940$9600000a@lan> Dear all, concerning Peel on record/cd: Narnack Records have just released a compilation cd which includes the Fall Peel session track Blindness, recorded off the radio, you hear John's voice over the first seconds of the song (''I did it again'')...... You can hear this plus tracks from the interview promo cd which accompanied his Fabric Live mix cd on my internet radioprogramme Another Nice Mess, later this monday at 18 hours GMT and 19 hours Central European Time on www.dfm.nu I will be playing Peel excerpts (from my cassette, reel to reel and md collection) every week, as I have been doing for the last couple of weeks. Over the next few weeks I hope to broadcast his final programme for the VPRO in 1986 amongst others. And if you're wondering who I am, read the article about Peel's funreal in the current issue of Word which includes at the end a part about........ me (I didn't know that myself!: www.wordmagazine.co.uk/johnpeel.pdf (in the printed edition the last sentences have diappeared.....) Also in the curent edition of the Dutch/Belgian magazine Gonzo Circus a very personal article about Peel, including a photograph of his grave in Great Finborough, made by fellow Peelian Phil Edwards from this site (Hello Phil!) love, Marcelle From newswire@... Wed Dec 29 15:33:13 2004 From: newswire@... (Mark) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:33:13 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [peel] January's schedule References: <41CDE876.9090101@...> Message-ID: <41D2C029.000001.05033@T3O2M9> I wonder if that's why there was no usual Tuesday chatroom last night, to a void any awkward questions? -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/25/04 22:27:56 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] January's schedule http://www.mydigiguide.com now has the Radio One schedule for the first week in January. Looks like it is goodbye to Rob - "One World" is listed as being on from 11pm-1am Tuesday-Thursday. But the BBC's website doesn't mention it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/oneworld/index.shtml Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From morriso@... Thu Dec 30 01:43:51 2004 From: morriso@... (Andrew Morrison) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:43:51 -0000 Subject: [peel] January's schedule References: <41CDE876.9090101@...> <41D2C029.000001.05033@T3O2M9> Message-ID: <000d01c4ee08$a2b2ea80$29d02cd9@Andrew> Nah, it's simply that the Festive 50 shows have been pre-recorded. Andy Regards, Andrew Morrison Email: morriso@... Website: http://www.AndrewMorrison.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [peel] January's schedule I wonder if that's why there was no usual Tuesday chatroom last night, to a void any awkward questions? -------Original Message------- From: peel@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/25/04 22:27:56 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [peel] January's schedule http://www.mydigiguide.com now has the Radio One schedule for the first week in January. Looks like it is goodbye to Rob - "One World" is listed as being on from 11pm-1am Tuesday-Thursday. But the BBC's website doesn't mention it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/oneworld/index.shtml Dave. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 28/12/04 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From festive50@... Thu Dec 30 22:25:42 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:25:42 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Festive 50 - 2004 In-Reply-To: <000d01c4ee08$a2b2ea80$29d02cd9@Andrew> References: <41CDE876.9090101@...> <41D2C029.000001.05033@T3O2M9> <000d01c4ee08$a2b2ea80$29d02cd9@Andrew> Message-ID: <18520.195.188.213.34.1104441942.squirrel@195.188.213.34> I'm surprised no one has yet posted on the festive 50 as played so far. So here goes. The 1st one. Haven't heard it all yet but have seen the listings - Nos. 50-21. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm impressed so far. i.e. Most of tracks :- a) To my knowledge, were played on Peel's show. b) Were not played on XFM, London's tawdry "answer" to Peel if you need to listen to daytime music on the radio. c) A reasonable cross section. Phil From janb@... Thu Dec 30 22:34:07 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:34:07 -0000 Subject: [peel] Festive 50 - 2004 References: <41CDE876.9090101@...> <41D2C029.000001.05033@T3O2M9> <000d01c4ee08$a2b2ea80$29d02cd9@Andrew> <18520.195.188.213.34.1104441942.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <010501c4eeb7$4ada41a0$2e90220a@...> On Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:25 PM [GMT+1=CET], festive50@... wrote: > I'm surprised no one has yet posted on the festive 50 as played so > far. So here goes. The 1st one. > Haven't heard it all yet but have seen the listings - Nos. 50-21. > I don't know about the rest of you but I'm impressed so far. > i.e. Most of tracks :- > a) To my knowledge, were played on Peel's show. > b) Were not played on XFM, London's tawdry "answer" to Peel if you > need to listen to daytime music on the radio. > c) A reasonable cross section. Well as the voice of the mainstream :-), I'd say that whilst it might please the Peel purists it's not been that great so far. Only Ballboy, Black Keys, Art Brut, and Mclusky have raised the pulse rate and would encroach on (the lower reaches of) my own chart of the year. -- Jan standingupforexcitingmusicwithtunes From cynicaldj@... Thu Dec 30 22:38:56 2004 From: cynicaldj@... (cynicaldj) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:38:56 -0000 Subject: Festive 50 - 2004 In-Reply-To: <18520.195.188.213.34.1104441942.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: Hello Phil/All, I'm not a great fan of the Festive Fifty, but I will agree with most of what you have said. I am more concerned that tonight will probably be the last Peel Programme. I understand that "One Click" which is a real "off-the-wall" experimental Programme will be in the 2300 hours slot in January, at the moment I don't know what will follow in February. Whilst Rob has done a good job as a Caretaker, I don't feel that he has the right level of enthusiasm for such a Programme. He has, however, done a very difficult job under some very sad circumstances. I have to say John Peel was not only the only Programme on Radio 1 I listened to, more than that, his was the only Programme I listened to on Radio full stop. Music Radio, to use John's own words is "predictable porridge", and Talk-based Radio tends to be about the same subjects: divorce, abuse, N.H.S., Government, etc. There are very few format free Programmes on any kind of Radio these days - Talk or Music. As a sort of sign of respect, since his passing, I haven't turned on the same Radio that I used to listen to him; I listen to Rob via the Internet, and would like to say that I thought Peel Night was fantastic. Regarding Peel F.M., the Servers have now been bought, and I will be testing them over the next month or so, but I hope Radio 1 decide to "Keep It Peel" in 2005 and beyond whether it takes off or not. Happy listening tonight and New Year 2005. Cheers. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeelFM/ --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, festive50@b... wrote: > I'm surprised no one has yet posted on the festive 50 as played so far. > So here goes. The 1st one. > Haven't heard it all yet but have seen the listings - Nos. 50-21. > I don't know about the rest of you but I'm impressed so far. > i.e. Most of tracks :- > a) To my knowledge, were played on Peel's show. > b) Were not played on XFM, London's tawdry "answer" to Peel if you need to > listen to daytime music on the radio. > c) A reasonable cross section. > Phil From rockerq@... Fri Dec 31 01:15:06 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:15:06 EST Subject: Festive 50 Message-ID: <36.692a03a6.2f05f40a@...> OK so how many artists have previously appeared in a single festive 50 in more than one guise? (Not counting all time Festive 50s, of course). Without checking I can only think of maybe Electronica and New Order. Rocker PS Tonight's show: End of an era? From rockerq@... Fri Dec 31 01:51:45 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:51:45 EST Subject: Festive 50 Message-ID: <143.3bd6ff29.2f05fca1@...> Wot No Fall Yet? Rocker @ 12.52GMT From rockerq@... Fri Dec 31 01:54:57 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:54:57 EST Subject: [peel] Festive 50 Message-ID: <190.3640fa35.2f05fd61@...> << OK so how many artists have previously appeared in a single festive 50 in more than one guise? (Not counting all time Festive 50s, of course).>> How about Mark E Smith - both with The Fall and with Inspiral Carpets (What year was that?) Rocker From rockerq@... Fri Dec 31 02:00:30 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:00:30 EST Subject: [peel] Festive 50 Message-ID: <1c3.221516d3.2f05feae@...> << Wot No Fall Yet? >> OK so I spoke (or typed) too soon! A top Festive 50 I thought! Wide range of styles and nothing mainstream-chart-like at all! OFf to bed now! Rocker @ 01.00 GMT From janb@... Fri Dec 31 02:04:03 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:04:03 -0000 Subject: [peel] Festive 50 References: <1c3.221516d3.2f05feae@...> Message-ID: <015901c4eed4$9edbd120$2e90220a@...> On Friday, December 31, 2004 1:00 AM [GMT+1=CET], rockerq@... wrote: > << Wot No Fall Yet? >> > > OK so I spoke (or typed) too soon! > > A top Festive 50 I thought! Wide range of styles and nothing > mainstream-chart-like at all! Clearly all 'non-peel' selections weeded out I assume. -- Jan From rockerq@... Fri Dec 31 02:10:39 2004 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:10:39 EST Subject: [peel] Festive 50 Message-ID: <140.3ad8360b.2f06010f@...> << Clearly all 'non-peel' selections weeded out I assume. >> I would assume that with the Festive 50 what you hear is what was actually voted for - if enough people voted for the same Morrisey track, for instance, it would've been in there! (Same goes for Busted, Kylie etc) Or am I just too naive? Rocker From festive50@... Fri Dec 31 20:13:42 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:13:42 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] Festive 50 - 2004 In-Reply-To: <010501c4eeb7$4ada41a0$2e90220a@...> References: <41CDE876.9090101@...> <41D2C029.000001.05033@T3O2M9> <000d01c4ee08$a2b2ea80$29d02cd9@Andrew> <18520.195.188.213.34.1104441942.squirrel@195.188.213.34> <010501c4eeb7$4ada41a0$2e90220a@...> Message-ID: <25461.195.188.213.34.1104520422.squirrel@195.188.213.34> With regard to the below post, I'm intrigued Jan as to why you joined this list. > Well as the voice of the mainstream :-), I'd say that whilst it might > please the Peel purists it's not been that great so far. Only Ballboy, > Black Keys, Art Brut, and Mclusky have raised the pulse rate and would > encroach on (the lower reaches of) my own chart of the year. > > -- > Jan standingupforexcitingmusicwithtunes And in response to a much earlier post:- > Let me start by stating that I love the Peel show, and have done for > more years than most people on this list have been breathing...etc You posted:- ...but at the end of the day, what you've got to ask is, is it any good? A strange comment from a regular Peel listener. I don't wish to start an argument at such a late stage. It's as I said earlier, I'm just intrigued. Phil From troche@... Fri Dec 31 21:00:04 2004 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:00:04 -0500 Subject: FF04 Real Player Direct Links Message-ID: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1dabanktue.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1dabankwed.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1dabankthu.ra From stuart@... Fri Dec 31 21:17:19 2004 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:17:19 +0000 Subject: Festive 50 In-Reply-To: <1104489110.328.25461.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1104489110.328.25461.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: ><< OK so how many artists have previously appeared in a single festive 50 in >more than one guise? (Not counting all time Festive 50s, of course).>> > >How about Mark E Smith - both with The Fall and with Inspiral Carpets and with Long Fin Killie! And that other one... There must be others - maybe Liz Frazer (Cocteaus/This Mortal Coil)? or Chumbawamba & Credit To The Nation separately and together? Stereolab with/without Tortoise or Nurse With Wound? And I think Gruff from the Superfurries was on a Mogwai track that made the chart. ok, I decided to cheat (ah, MES with DOSE) and spotted Elvis Costello/The Imposter. Any others? Not that I could see! Cheers Stuart -- From festive50@... Fri Dec 31 22:35:18 2004 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:35:18 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [peel] FF04 Real Player Direct Links In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29420.195.188.213.34.1104528918.squirrel@195.188.213.34> I've always used the following http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/r1dabanktue.rpm http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/r1dabankwed.rpm http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/r1dabankthu.rpm Is there any difference. Phil Hi Tom Remember me? Is it something I said? You never wrote, you never phoned....... LOL > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1dabanktue.ra > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1dabankwed.ra > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/r1dabankthu.ra > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > From janb@... Fri Dec 31 23:16:33 2004 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:16:33 -0000 Subject: [peel] Festive 50 - 2004 References: <41CDE876.9090101@...> <41D2C029.000001.05033@T3O2M9> <000d01c4ee08$a2b2ea80$29d02cd9@Andrew> <18520.195.188.213.34.1104441942.squirrel@195.188.213.34> <010501c4eeb7$4ada41a0$2e90220a@...> <25461.195.188.213.34.1104520422.squirrel@195.188.213.34> Message-ID: <00c001c4ef86$62f0a250$2e90220a@...> On Friday, December 31, 2004 7:13 PM [GMT+1=CET], festive50@... wrote: > With regard to the below post, I'm intrigued Jan as to why you joined > this list. >> Well as the voice of the mainstream :-), I'd say that whilst it might >> please the Peel purists it's not been that great so far. Only >> Ballboy, Black Keys, Art Brut, and Mclusky have raised the pulse >> rate and would encroach on (the lower reaches of) my own chart of >> the year. >> >> -- >> Jan standingupforexcitingmusicwithtunes > And in response to a much earlier post:- > >> Let me start by stating that I love the Peel show, and have done for >> more years than most people on this list have been breathing...etc > > You posted:- > > ...but at the end of the day, what you've got to ask is, is it any > good? > > A strange comment from a regular Peel listener. Well I was an occasional Peel listener (due to the hours as much as anything). > I don't wish to start an argument at such a late stage. It's as I said > earlier, I'm just intrigued. Well much as I really liked some of the things Peel brought to us (Hefner, B+S, HMHB, that Caroline Martin record in the FF etc etc), I also felt he played a lot of completely unlistenable rubbish. Which is fine, that was his job, without the shit you don't find the diamonds. On this list I tend to play this up I guess because there always seems to be an excessive level of musical snobbery on here. I think the man himself shows how people shouldn't be so precious with his answer to the pop question in the latest Q. -- Jan listenstoZaneLoweandisproudofit