[peel] Digest Number 683

[diane farley]

I have found myself posting more messages to this group than I have for 
ages, when I entered the Festive 50 debate.
Surely the thing about John is just the whole range of music and styles he 
plays. Who COULD guess what the 'average' Peel listener likes / listens to.
My bad efforts to make sure Immortal Lee County Killers were at least 
represented only precipitated bad replies, no one said... great band. Just 
because I loved the session at Maida Vale [surpassed by The Vaults now] 
doesn't neccesarily mean anybody else liked it.
You might all cry 'rig' at Saloon or Dawn Parade but then you might just be 
thinking that your choices are better and why aren't they higher. I don't 
remember Bang Bang Machine but I think it's unfair just to level accusations 
at things just because they do well. Anyway. Sounds like John and his team 
are doing their best to stop rigging this year.

D x


>From: Stuart McHugh <stuart@...>
>Reply-To: peel@yahoogroups.com
>To: peel@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [peel] Digest Number 683
>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:42:31 +0000
>
>anyone else getting a message bounce when they try to vote in the
>F50? I got an 'out of office reply' and then a disk full message -
>for some reason the votes were forwarded to John'home email account!
>Can't think why the Beeb didn't just set up a new email address to
>send all the messages to rather than  to john.peel@....
>
> >  During the early stages of the vote,
> >he made comment about "a band beginning with D and a band beginning with 
>A".
> >It soon became obvious that D were The Dawn Parade, but who were A?  Was 
>it
> >The Aphrodisiacs, who had a link on their Website urging people to vote 
>for
> >"This is a Campaign" - which coincidentally appeared just 1 place above 
>the
> >demoted Dawn Parade?  or was it Antihero?  They obviously have quite a 
>few
> >fans, but ... 5th best song of 2002???
>I always think that if a band has the Peel 'stamp of approval' i.e.
>if he declares a liking for it himself, then their chances are
>enhanced. The Aphrodisiacs had their demo played a few times before
>last year's 50. Couldn't say if Antihero did, but their considerably
>higher placing is I'm sure the 'A' he was referring to.
>
> >I thought one of the strangest results was Nina Nastasia in 4th place.  I
> >like Nina, and I bought her album last year, but I couldn't nominate any 
>one
> >song on the album as being particularly outstanding.  And yet, enough 
>people
> >apparently liked "Ugly Face" to vote it into 4th place, but not one of 
>the
> >other songs received enough votes even to get into the Top 50.  Odd?
>Odd that you couldn't choose one track but other people decided one
>track was 'standout'. Where F50 voting is concerned people will often
>choose a track  they feel will be chosen by other fans of the band,
>that's clear. Maybe it was again the one Peel played most? Or  as
>simple as it being the first track on the album.
>
>I suppose a vote for 'favourite band/act' rather than 'top 3 songs'
>might make for a good poll...
>
>Ob: Black music: I was never surprised that Public Enemy got into the
>charts in the past as their rebellious rap was cool for many WBWGs,
>and Dreadzone were making dance music, broadly,with an indie
>crossover - what I'm getting at is the 'colour' of the music or the
>music-makers was irrelevant.
>reggae has always been sorely under-represented - and that's despite
>John's playing of tracks almost incessantly. Seems that the audience
>just aren't that keen (The Naturalites 'Picture on my Wall' is one
>example of a Peel-endorsed track that was played to death at the tie
>- rightly IMO)
>As for the Bhundus, I voted for 'Manhenga' - I guess there was no
>Scottish borders rigging conspiracy that I knew of on the go - more's
>the pity!
>
>Stuart
>
>PS - on the subject of rigging - Bang Bang Machine's 'Geek Love'???
>--

_________________________________________________________________
Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. 
http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess