From candyskinn@... Fri Jan 3 12:36:21 2003 From: candyskinn@... (candyskinn@...) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:36:21 EST Subject: F50 Message-ID: <3a.3216a735.2b46cfb5@...> Ah, another year, another F50 that no one much seems to like. Also another year where I have been working over Christmas and missed the whole shebang. So my (almost) annual plea: if there's anyone who'd like to sell/trade tapes of this year's chart, perhaps they could contact me off list - and then I can grumble along with the rest of you. I have bits and bobs of the various charts going back to the early eighties, acquired from various sources. Also, another year where none of my choices got in, I see... Best wishes all From vicarage@... Fri Jan 3 19:28:22 2003 From: vicarage@... (Jon) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 18:28:22 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: F50 References: <3a.3216a735.2b46cfb5@...> Message-ID: <3E15D646.6050401@...> On reflection it's probably been the best for a few years - at least, less songs and bands and that Peel has never played, less big-name no-hopers like Radiohead, and there is nothing in there that I actually disapprove of being there. I know it's not entirely the point of it, but it was pretty representative of the Peel show over the past year. Except for reggae. Luciano was played to death last year but not a peep in the fifty. Anyone have any theories why electronica and reggae are always so badly under-represented compared to the amount Peel plays? Anyway, I've just compiled a nifty cdr of the ff2002 for someone who missed it, so if anyone else wants a copy, let me know. Oh yes, for the person who thought that "identify the beat" was by Mark Smith of the Fall, it's actually by Marc Smith who as far as I'm aware is a different person, unless it's Mark E using a (rather obvious) pseudonym... Have a lovely The Rev http://www.vheissu.freeserve.co.uk/peel candyskinn@... wrote: > > Ah, another year, another F50 that no one much seems to like. Also > another year where I have been working over Christmas and missed the > whole shebang. So my (almost) annual plea: if there's anyone who'd like > to sell/trade tapes of this year's chart, perhaps they could contact me > off list - and then I can grumble along with the rest of you. I have > bits and bobs of the various charts going back to the early eighties, > acquired from various sources. > > Also, another year where none of my choices got in, I see... > > Best wishes all > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > . From janb@... Fri Jan 3 19:44:54 2003 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:44:54 -0000 Subject: [peel] Re: F50 References: <3a.3216a735.2b46cfb5@...> <3E15D646.6050401@...> Message-ID: <002f01c2b358$35c08aa0$ec004e51@sidings1> Jon offered the following: > year but not a peep in the fifty. Anyone have any theories why > electronica and reggae are always so badly under-represented compared > to the amount Peel plays? Because little (if any) of it is actually any good? -- Jan From rockerq@... Fri Jan 3 20:55:01 2003 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:55:01 EST Subject: [peel] Re: F50 Message-ID: << Anyone have any theories why electronica and reggae are always so badly under-represented compared to the amount Peel plays? Because little (if any) of it is actually any good? >> If listening to Peel teaches one thing, its that "good" and "bad" are purely subjective opinions. It just seems that Peel's purely subjective opinions are more reliable than "the kids" who vote in the F50! Cheers! Rocker From martinwheatley@... Sat Jan 4 17:05:07 2003 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 16:05:07 +0000 Subject: F50 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104154438.00c4cec8@...> << Anyone have any theories why electronica and reggae are always so badly >>under-represented compared to the amount Peel plays? Rocker wrote >It just seems that Peel's purely subjective opinions are more reliable than >"the kids" who vote in the F50! Much as I respect Peel his tastes aren't automatically superior to every one else's in every area of music Peel's tastes in reggae are very old-fashioned - Luciano is an m-o-r singer in reggae terms. He is fully entitled to have those tastes of course - I have no complaints about that but people who listen to reggae in other progs are not likely to be mostly interested in Luciano or even Culture Peel just doesn't play dancehall reggae where the action has been for some years now I suspect the main reason electronica, reggae and other areas too are underrepresented in the F50 is simply because he plays a different track every time and no one track can build up sufficient support, An indie single on the other hand might be played several times and be played elsewhere as well as the mailing list campaigns. When Peel does play one of these a tracks a lot it does get support - the Marc Smith track being an obvious example - how many votes would that have got if he'd played it only once martinw From stuart@... Sun Jan 5 17:17:27 2003 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 16:17:27 +0000 Subject: F50 In-Reply-To: <1041776696.155.65771.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1041776696.155.65771.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: >I suspect the main reason electronica, reggae and other areas too are >underrepresented >in the F50 is simply because he plays a different track every time and no >one track >can build up sufficient support, very true, i reckon - I reckon the biggest reggae track in the chart ever (correct me if I'm wrong) would have been the Natural Ites 'Picture on My Wall' which was a single and maybe the only track the band ever got played on radio more than once (unlike the various Misty ones etc and thus got focused on greatly - it was a massive favourite of JP too. > When >Peel does play >one of these a tracks a lot it does get support - the Marc Smith track >being an obvious example >- how many votes would that have got if he'd played it only once Still not convinced that it wasn't a case of mistaken identity! (remember D.O.S.E from a past year) Is Marc Smith the Scottish Marc Smith? (as opposed to a Southern one, perhaps?) S http://www.isthismusic.com -- From g.j.steel@... Sun Jan 5 17:26:28 2003 From: g.j.steel@... (edin_pgrad ) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:26:28 -0000 Subject: F50: Marc Smith Message-ID: Just to clear this one up, yeah, Marc Smith's from Glasgow and has been around as a hardcore DJ for several years I think. And is definitely *not* the same person as Mark E. Smith. gram -- http://www.radio.plus.com/ From john.bravin@... Sun Jan 5 21:03:17 2003 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:03:17 +0100 Subject: F50 References: <1041776696.155.65771.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <002d01c2b4f5$7d366820$0100a8c0@...> Depends a bit on what you count as reggae. In 1978 The Clash reached 7 with White Man in Hammersmith Palais, and 23 with Police and Thieves (the Junior Murvin song). If you are into reggae and would like to see an all-time chart see www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/goldfinger/goldfinger_biog.shtml And if you are really into Lee Perry try http://ultimatecharts.com/special.asp My personal favourite is Junior Delgado's Sons of Slaves, which Peel played in the late 70's when it was first released. It's true that a lot of the reggae Peel plays now is not leading edge, but let's not forget that when he started playing reggae his was the about the only radio station where you could hear it. Maybe I should consider an email campaign next year, like that organised for Saloon. It would certainly make him happy if the top 5 were not white guitar bands singing indie tunes. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart McHugh To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: [peel] Re: Re: F50 I reckon the biggest reggae track in the chart ever (correct me if I'm wrong) would have been the Natural Ites 'Picture on My Wall' which was a single and maybe the only track the band ever got played on radio more than once (unlike the various Misty ones etc and thus got focused on greatly - it was a massive favourite of JP too. From troche@... Mon Jan 6 06:24:07 2003 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 00:24:07 -0500 Subject: It's time to play Name That Tune Message-ID: I've been away from the computer for a time, just getting back from a lot of travel.... have enjoyed all the F50 talk. I have tapes coming soon and will hear it all eventually; I just flew back and have heard none of it so far. Each year I note it is a different F50 listening experience on tape/CD than live on the FM - you can stop and back up for the good stuff and burn by the weak stuff. Sometimes I will stop and play a track over and over (the quiet track 2 years back by Broadcast for example) so it can take me weeks to get to the bitter end.... I spent the last 12 days in Northern Vermont and later Boston, with family. Got a nor'easter (AKA a big snowstorm) as we arrived, and as we left. Lovely though. Speaking of Boston... I heard a lot of excellent radio there. One non-commercial station, WMUR, played short loud fast new indie rock almost all day all the time - just an avalanche of great stuff. I'll look into whether they webcast. Another station just played reggae. Dialing around one night I heard an amazing electronica track... a series of 3 or 4 tracks really. It was one of those rare instances where I prepared a pen and paper to write down what it was - it was so much of a "must have" track. It went on 20 minutes, no announcer. Then it ended. Then dead air. Then a LOT of dead air, but the carrier was still there. I soon realized I'd been listening to a pirate, a strong one at that. 90.25 FM. Again I was on vacation in a cabin; no way to tape it. So allow me to describe this unique thing, maybe you can identify it? The 3 or 4 tracks all had a basic simple catchy synth riff with a basic not-too-complicated drum track driving it along. The melody however, was made up entirely of tiny tiny seemingly random music samples, none longer than a second and most closer to a half second in length. I mean really short: a vocal fragment, a bass fragment, a horn, a fragment of a word, a guitar chord, etc etc. These had all seemingly been sorted out by pitch and then were all hard cut microscopically back to back, no looping, no fading, to create an identifiable melody/riff. Once the 20 or 30 hard edits rolled by, they got out of the way for the synth/drum backing track to drive along, then the same 20 or 30 "notes/noises" so to speak would play again, giving the piece some structure. It was so weird and so funny, brilliant. Sorta like Cowcube but with 40 times the complexity. My wife thought it to be more like annoying soulless computer music, but it was cold and organic at the same time. Maybe it was a just a pirate thing, non-released. But it clearly was a lot of work. All the samples - which seeming spanned decades of music - were clearly stolen, but the samples were so so tiny and short it would be impossible for someone to raise a legal issue. Ideas anyone? I know it's a long shot...Maybe someone on this list could suggest a techno/electronica list I could post this query to? That was a dangling participle, wasn't it. Sorry. tom in atlanta ps: in early December in was in Los Angeles on business...my brother and I ventured out to see - and it takes a real man to admit this - Harvey Sid Fisher. His performance was... well, we weren't laughing at him or with him. Just near him. From emptybrook@... Mon Jan 6 09:28:53 2003 From: emptybrook@... (mt brook) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:28:53 +0100 Subject: ballboy and their flags on cranes Message-ID: <001901c2b55d$a65e9e80$6eeb07c3@oemcomputer> gotta ask you well informed folks the ballboy song 'they'll hang flags from cranes...' what exactly is the meaning of hanging flags from cranes? is it a ceremonial thing for fellow workers, royalty or what? or is it something the ballboys made up? yours in blissful australian ignorance mike From nburling@... Mon Jan 6 10:35:04 2003 From: nburling@... (palacese25 ) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:35:04 -0000 Subject: ballboy and their flags on cranes In-Reply-To: <001901c2b55d$a65e9e80$6eeb07c3@oemcomputer> Message-ID: you could ask gordon himself at the ballboy website guestbook place, but i remember him saying in an interview that it's something his mother said to him - if he ever got married, they'll hang flags from cranes etc etc... --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "mt brook" wrote: > gotta ask you well informed folks > the ballboy song 'they'll hang flags from cranes...' > what exactly is the meaning of hanging flags from cranes? > is it a ceremonial thing for fellow workers, royalty or what? > or is it something the ballboys made up? > > yours in blissful australian ignorance > > mike From justine@... Mon Jan 6 10:38:40 2003 From: justine@... (justine@...) Date: 06 Jan 2003 09:38:40 +0000 Subject: [peel] It's time to play Name That Tune Message-ID: Not Akufen was it? sounds like his kinda stuff... but I'm probably way off. http://www.ableton.com/content/reloadFrameset.html?content-artist-Akufen.html Justine > ** Original Subject: RE: [peel] It's time to play Name That Tune > ** Original Sender: Tom Roche > ** Original Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 05:23:12 +0000 > ** Original Message follows... > > I've been away from the computer for a time, just getting back from a lot of travel.... have enjoyed all the F50 talk. I have tapes coming soon and will hear it all eventually; I just flew back and have heard none of it so far. Each year I note it is a different F50 listening experience on tape/CD than live on the FM - you can stop and back up for the good stuff and burn by the weak stuff. Sometimes I will stop and play a track over and over (the quiet track 2 years back by Broadcast for example) so it can take me weeks to get to the bitter end.... > > I spent the last 12 days in Northern Vermont and later Boston, with family. Got a nor'easter (AKA a big snowstorm) as we arrived, and as we left. Lovely though. Speaking of Boston... I heard a lot of excellent radio there. One non-commercial station, WMUR, played short loud fast new indie rock almost all day all the time - just an avalanche of great stuff. I'll look into whether they webcast. Another station just played reggae. > > Dialing around one night I heard an amazing electronica track... a series of 3 or 4 tracks really. It was one of those rare instances where I prepared a pen and paper to write down what it was - it was so much of a "must have" track. It went on 20 minutes, no announcer. Then it ended. Then dead air. Then a LOT of dead air, but the carrier was still there. I soon realized I'd been listening to a pirate, a strong one at that. 90.25 FM. Again I was on vacation in a cabin; no way to tape it. > > So allow me to describe this unique thing, maybe you can identify it? The 3 or 4 tracks all had a basic simple catchy synth riff with a basic not-too-complicated drum track driving it along. The melody however, was made up entirely of tiny tiny seemingly random music samples, none longer than a second and most closer to a half second in length. I mean really short: a vocal fragment, a bass fragment, a horn, a fragment of a word, a guitar chord, etc etc. These had all seemingly been sorted out by pitch and then were all hard cut microscopically back to back, no looping, no fading, to create an identifiable melody/riff. Once the 20 or 30 hard edits rolled by, they got out of the way for the synth/drum backing track to drive along, then the same 20 or 30 "notes/noises" so to speak would play again, giving the piece some structure. It was so weird and so funny, brilliant. Sorta like Cowcube but with 40 times the complexity. > > My wife thought it to be more like annoying soulless computer music, but it was cold and organic at the same time. Maybe it was a just a pirate thing, non-released. But it clearly was a lot of work. All the samples - which seeming spanned decades of music - were clearly stolen, but the samples were so so tiny and short it would be impossible for someone to raise a legal issue. > > Ideas anyone? I know it's a long shot...Maybe someone on this list could suggest a techno/electronica list I could post this query to? > > That was a dangling participle, wasn't it. Sorry. > > tom in atlanta > > > > ps: in early December in was in Los Angeles on business...my brother and I ventured out to see - and it takes a real man to admit this - Harvey Sid Fisher. His performance was... well, we weren't laughing at him or with him. Just near him. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > From mozy@... Mon Jan 6 10:59:11 2003 From: mozy@... (dozy.freeserve.co.uk@...) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 04:59:11 -0500 Subject: [peel] It's time to play Name That Tune Message-ID: <48270-2200311695911231@...> The only names that spring to my mind are Matmos or Keiran Hebden (Fridge/Four Tet)... Original Message: ----------------- From: justine@...eserve.co.uk Date: 06 Jan 2003 09:38:40 +0000 To: peel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [peel] It's time to play Name That Tune Not Akufen was it? sounds like his kinda stuff... but I'm probably way off. http://www.ableton.com/content/reloadFrameset.html?content-artist-Akufen.htm l Justine > ** Original Subject: RE: [peel] It's time to play Name That Tune > ** Original Sender: Tom Roche > ** Original Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 05:23:12 +0000 > ** Original Message follows... > > I've been away from the computer for a time, just getting back from a lot of travel.... have enjoyed all the F50 talk. I have tapes coming soon and will hear it all eventually; I just flew back and have heard none of it so far. Each year I note it is a different F50 listening experience on tape/CD than live on the FM - you can stop and back up for the good stuff and burn by the weak stuff. Sometimes I will stop and play a track over and over (the quiet track 2 years back by Broadcast for example) so it can take me weeks to get to the bitter end.... > > I spent the last 12 days in Northern Vermont and later Boston, with family. Got a nor'easter (AKA a big snowstorm) as we arrived, and as we left. Lovely though. Speaking of Boston... I heard a lot of excellent radio there. One non-commercial station, WMUR, played short loud fast new indie rock almost all day all the time - just an avalanche of great stuff. I'll look into whether they webcast. Another station just played reggae. > > Dialing around one night I heard an amazing electronica track... a series of 3 or 4 tracks really. It was one of those rare instances where I prepared a pen and paper to write down what it was - it was so much of a "must have" track. It went on 20 minutes, no announcer. Then it ended. Then dead air. Then a LOT of dead air, but the carrier was still there. I soon realized I'd been listening to a pirate, a strong one at that. 90.25 FM. Again I was on vacation in a cabin; no way to tape it. > > So allow me to describe this unique thing, maybe you can identify it? The 3 or 4 tracks all had a basic simple catchy synth riff with a basic not-too-complicated drum track driving it along. The melody however, was made up entirely of tiny tiny seemingly random music samples, none longer than a second and most closer to a half second in length. I mean really short: a vocal fragment, a bass fragment, a horn, a fragment of a word, a guitar chord, etc etc. These had all seemingly been sorted out by pitch and then were all hard cut microscopically back to back, no looping, no fading, to create an identifiable melody/riff. Once the 20 or 30 hard edits rolled by, they got out of the way for the synth/drum backing track to drive along, then the same 20 or 30 "notes/noises" so to speak would play again, giving the piece some structure. It was so weird and so funny, brilliant. Sorta like Cowcube but with 40 times the complexity. > > My wife thought it to be more like annoying soulless computer music, but it was cold and organic at the same time. Maybe it was a just a pirate thing, non-released. But it clearly was a lot of work. All the samples - which seeming spanned decades of music - were clearly stolen, but the samples were so so tiny and short it would be impossible for someone to raise a legal issue. > > Ideas anyone? I know it's a long shot...Maybe someone on this list could suggest a techno/electronica list I could post this query to? > > That was a dangling participle, wasn't it. Sorry. > > tom in atlanta > > > > ps: in early December in was in Los Angeles on business...my brother and I ventured out to see - and it takes a real man to admit this - Harvey Sid Fisher. His performance was... well, we weren't laughing at him or with him. Just near him. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From troche@... Thu Jan 9 14:31:27 2003 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:31:27 -0500 Subject: It's time to play Name That Tune In-Reply-To: <1041861406.288.90626.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1041861406.288.90626.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: At 1:56 PM +0000 1/6/03, peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: >Subject: RE: It's time to play Name That Tune > >Not Akufen was it? sounds like his kinda stuff... but I'm probably way off. > >http://www.ableton.com/content/reloadFrameset.html?content-artist-Akufen.html > >Justine That might be it, thanks for the tip. They got a mention in the NY Times yesterday in a large article covering the best but overlooked CD's of 2002. I'd post the link but you have to register to get it. I'll just dig it up and post it here later - it's a little long but covers a lot of interesting music, only some of it having surfaced on Peel's show. tom From troche@... Sat Jan 11 19:58:25 2003 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:58:25 -0500 Subject: NY Times 1/8 Best Overlooked CD's of 2002 Message-ID: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ January 8, 2003 Tributaries to the Musical Mainstream By NEIL STRAUSS Last year record labels released about 27,000 CD titles in the United States. Though that it is a hefty number, it is actually low for the business, which released nearly 39,000 titles just a few years ago. Considering that only several hundred of those CD's even make the Top 40, that leaves thousands upon thousands of CD's that few people ever hear. Thus, every year, the pop music critics at The New York Times compile a list of the CD's that almost got away the previous year. The choices here include CD's on small independent labels; groups whose music has never been released domestically; acts who work in genres that are far too experimental or avant-garde for mainstream radio; older legends making a comeback; and younger musicians with the potential to become legends. Many of these CD's may not be available at chain record stores, so consider trying an independent record store or a Web site. A few suggestions include Other Music in Manhattan and Boston (www.othermusic.com); Aquarius Records in San Francisco (www.aquariusrecords.org); Luna Music in Indianapolis (www.lunamusic.net); and on the Web only (www.dustygroove.com, www.tigersushi.com; www.forcedexposure.com); and, for Latin music, www.descarga.com. Jon Pareles 1. Mary Gauthier: "Filth and Fire" (Signature Sounds) With her long-suffering voice and her Louisiana drawl, Ms. Gauthier sings pithy, rootsy songs full of observations like "Goodbye could have been my family name"; she makes Lucinda Williams sound cheerful. 2. Devendra Banhart: "Oh Me Oh My . . . " (Young God) The quaver in Mr. Banhart's voice is as shaky as his songs' connection to everyday reality. In lo-fi recordings - usually just his guitar and his multiplied voice - his songs and fragments ponder animals, apparitions, logical leaps and childlike certainties, all with credible eccentricity. 3. Solomon Burke: "Don't Give Up On Me" (Fat Possum) One of the great soul singers of the 1960's escapes the nostalgia circuit with songs written for him by Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Tom Waits, Elvis Costello and Brian Wilson, and his gospel-charged voice is intact. 4. Super Collider: "Raw Digits" (Rise Robots Rise) Super Collider, the collaboration of the producers Jamie Liddell and Cristian Vogel, drags the spirit of P-Funk into an electronic swamp, where songs throb and blip while singers consider undecipherable messages and "radianimations" amid the pulsations. 5. Nina Nastasia: "The Blackened Air" (Touch and Go) Ms. Nastasia's songs reach back to the staples of old-time country - waltzes and ballads, love and death - for music that verges on parables, set to a porchful of unplugged instruments. 6. Deerhoof: "Reveille" (Kill Rock Stars) Beware of whiplash from the sudden changes in Deerhoof's songs, which can sound like blithe pop one moment and bruising power chords or a tootling accordion or staticky electronics the next, all with whimsically assured timing and a sly sense of melody. 7. Cyro Baptista: "Beat the Donkey" (Tzadik) The Brazilian percussionist Cyro Baptista leads Beat the Donkey, a 12-member percussion group that reaches well beyond samba and carnival rhythms. With guests including the guitarist Marc Ribot, the songs summon gamelans, breakbeats, heavy metal, tap-dancing and funk along with tuneful Brazilian pop. 8. (The User): "Symphony No. 2 for Dot Matrix Printers" (Asphodel) The whizzes, clicks and whines in this electronic music sound like minimal techno, but they came from obsolescent dot-matrix printers deployed for texture and syncopation. The music transcends its gimmick, and it could make office workers think twice about what they hear every day. 9. Hot Hot Heat: "Make Up the Breakdown" (Sub Pop) Hot Hot Heat, a Canadian band, revs up skewed, shifty guitar riffs for its tales of misguided love and paranoia, in songs that hark back to the cleverness of XTC and the frantic confessions of the early Cure. 10. Jaguar Wright: "Denials Delusions and Decisions" (MCA) On an album that faded into post-Sept. 11 grief when it was released in January 2002, Ms. Wright combines the vocal finesse of soul with the bluntness of hip-hop. Her songs concoct a persona that encompasses a strong conscience and promises of kinky sex. Neil Strauss 1. 2 Many DJ's: "As Heard on Radio Soulwax," Parts 1 and 3 (Waxed Soul) The official, copyright-cleared album by these two Belgian brothers led my regular year-end Top 10. These underground albums, culled from this pair's "Hang the DJ" radio show, are equally breath-aking. What makes these D.J.'s my favorite act of the year is not just the skill with which they superimpose Missy Elliott over Elastica, the Beach Boys over Michael Jackson, and, most famously, Destiny's Child over Nirvana on these albums, but it's also their sheer love of music and the audiophile perfectionism with which they tweak each song. 2. Akufen: "My Way" (Force Inc.) This experimental approach to music - electronic dance by way of musique concrète - has made for many boring albums, but Akufen (Marc Leclair) manages to assemble sounds recorded off his radio into sweet, invigorating grooves that bubble and drip like honey pouring into hot tea. 3. Benjamin Biolay: "Rose Kennedy" (Virgin France) and Coralie Clément: "Salle des Pas Perdus" (Nettwerk) Mr. Biolay, newly married to the actress Chiara Mastroianni, comes on like Serge Gainsbourg reincarnated, delivering immaculately produced orchestrated 60's-era pop delivered in perfectly assonant French. Unlike other Gainsbourg devotees, there is not a trace of irony or hipsterism here, and he even already has his own equivalent of Jane Birkin, Ms. Clément, whose equally precious album he wrote and produced. 4. Bad Astronaut: "Houston: We Have a Drinking Problem" (Honest Don's): At its best, this band from Santa Barbara, Calif., brings together elements of Grandaddy, Weezer and your favorite emo band. At its worst, it is average with the potential to be great. 5. Bon Voyage: "The Right Amount" (Tooth and Nail) After a four-year hiatus, the husband-and-wife team of Julie and Jason Martin returns with a sweet, beautiful and thoughtfully produced pop album with shades of Sixpence None the Richer, the Cardigans, the Cranes and Mazzy Star. 6. Deadly Avenger: "Deep Red" (Illicit) Mixing big-beat electronic music with the swelling strings and suspenseful sounds of a horror-movie soundtrack, Damon Baxter - the D.J., remixer and likely fan of the progressive rock group Goblin - surprises with a lusciously arranged instrumental dance album that unfolds like a Hollywood blockbuster, with even a gratuitous love scene thrown in. 7. The Libertines: "Up the Bracket" (Rough Trade) The Strokes do prepunk better than the Libertines, and the Libertines do the British Invasion better (being British helps), and both lay down a boogie beat with equal finesse. Factor in a strange similarity to the Wedding Present and production by the former Clash member Mick Jones, and you have a band that is not perfect but may not entirely deserve the poseur reputation it has earned overseas, either. 8. Madlib: "Blunted in the Bomb Shelter Mix" (Antidote) Madlib, born Otis Jackson Jr., digs through the crates of the Trojan label, mixing about 50 dub and reggae tracks (by King Tubby, Mikey Dread, Prince Far I and more) into an alternately easygoing, eccentric and, when his mixing fingers are too restless, maddening collage. 9. Themselves: "The No Music" (Anticon) Some great albums are journeys, moving the listener from the pinnacle of perfect pop to the nadir of noise and then back again. This meandering experimental hip-hop album from Doseone and Jel of rap's Anticon collective is just that, with savvy, swaying beats and candy choruses suddenly emerging out of go-nowhere ambient pastiches. 10. Various artists: "All You Mob!" (Shopfront Theatre for Young People/Morganics) For several years, the Australian hip-hop artist Morganics has been traveling through the outback, holding hip-hop workshops for Aboriginal schoolchildren. This eclectic CD serves as a field recording of his use of rap as creative catalyst, most charmingly on the didgeridoo-backed "Down River," by the Wilcannia Mob, a trio of children ages 10 to 13. Ben Ratliff 1. Miguel Zenón: "Looking Forward" (Fresh Sound) A first album which slots in Mr. Zenón, from Puerto Rico, as one of the strongest saxophonists in New York. He is also a central figure in the new Latin jazz, a music more complex and unified than the term has ever implied before. 2. Caetano Veloso and Jorge Mautner: "Eu Não Peço Desculpe" (Universal Brazil) Mr. Veloso, a patriarch of Brazilian pop, teams up with an old friend from the crazy 60's, the fiction writer, rogue philosopher, songwriter and singer Jorge Mautner. They fold in thundering Afro-Brazilian percussion, country music, electronics, rock, samba, poetry and folklore. It's a wise, eccentric toss-off. 3. Wycliffe Gordon and Eric Reed: "We" (Nagel Heyer) This set of parlor duets with Mr. Reed, the pianist, are elegiac and startlingly virtuosic. When Mr. Gordon, the trombonist, wants to vocalize, as in this album's "Embraceable You," he doesn't deal in half-measures: the instrument sounds like a voice. 4. Donald Brown Trio: "Autumn in New York" (Space Time) The pianist Donald Brown, one of Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers 20 years ago, makes lush, personal small-group albums, sweet-smelling with Southern manners and full of sprightly original writing; this, with the bassist Essiet Essiet and the drummer Billy Kilson, is a honeydripper. 5. Rob Brown Trio: "Round the Bend" (Bleu Regard) An alto saxophone-bass-drums trio, and with all its yawning open space, this is a record of alert, vivid melodic improvising. But there are also practiced sojourns into the hectic outback of New York-style free jazz. 6. Von Freeman: "The Improviser" (Premonition) Now 80 this tenor saxophonist can still sound fresh and daring It is a good thing that in jazz, hard-earned wisdom appreciates with age. 7. Guillermo Klein: "Los Guachos III" (Sunnyside) This Argentinian composer, once part of the New York scene and now living in Barcelona, has an open palette: in the quest for new large-ensemble sounds, he is basically an unrestricted composer whose friends and colleagues happen to be jazz musicians. 8. Volovan: "Volovan" (Lakeshore) A new rock band from Monterrey, Mexico, has taken up the aesthetic of skinny ties and checkerboard gym shoes like so many others. But where most New York revivalists of anxious 80's new-wave practice cool ad absurdum, this one takes a direct route to your pleasure centers; this band lays sweet teen singalongs over the metronomic rhythm. 9. Isis: "Oceanic" (Ipecac) Slow, brilliant, experimental metal; it is about three-quarters bottom-end, and diaphanous even with all its brute force. 10. Jay-Z: "Unplugged" (Roc-a-Fella) In the short run this CD means nothing next to his megagrossing studio albums. In the long run it might stand as a remarkably good attempt at hip-hop made with real instruments. Kelefa Sanneh 1. The Used: "The Used" (Reprise) A splendid debut from a Utah-bred punk rock band that may soon be ineligible for lists such as this one. The music echoes the turmoil in Bert McCracken's lyrics: as he gets worked up, plaintive pop-punk bleeds into shrieking noise. 2. Brooks: "You, Me and Us" (Mantis) A British producer reimagines disco in his own image. Synthesizers chirp, hands clap, drum machines twitch, bleary vocals float across a roomful of high-fidelity haze. 3. Desaparecidos: "Read Music/Speak Spanish" (Saddle Creek) Conor Oberst, from Bright Eyes, leads a punk quintet through nine white-knuckled songs about cash and compromise. Inevitably, indignation gives way to anxiety: "I should talk, I'm just the same/You can buy my records down at the corporate chain/I tell myself I shouldn't be ashamed/But I am!" 4. AGF: "Head Slash Bauch" (Orthlong Musork) Antye Greie-Fuchs builds prickly electronic compositions around fractured snippets of her murmurs and whispers. It is intoxicating, even when she's reciting computer code. 5. Otep: "Sevas Tra" (Capitol) A wild-eyed heavy-metal band led by Otep Shamaya, an extraordinary screamer. It starts quietly: she whimpers a story of sexual abuse ("He smelled of sweat and regret, and he said, `Shh . . . "). Then a brutal guitar riff hits, and it sounds like retribution. 6. Black Chiney: "Black a Chino" (www.blackchiney.com) Never mind the mash-ups: reggae D.J.'s have been recombining music and vocals for decades. This 81-track mix CD matches reggae stars with a wide variety of tracks: Alozade hijacks a hit single by Tweet, and Elephant Man has an absurd encounter with "Tainted Love." 7. Ms. Jade: "Girl Interrupted" (Interscope) Ms. Jade's rhymes ricochet around Timbaland's tricky beats, which scramble samples from around the world. "I write mine, light mine, now I got a spark/All bite, no bark, play my damn part," she raps. 8. James Yorkston and the Athletes: "Moving Up Country" (Domino) Gentle, casual love songs from Scotland. Accompanied by the occasional lap steel or accordion, Mr. Yorkston sings about anticipation, disappointment and - not coincidentally - drunkenness. 9. G-Unit: "Automatic Gunfire" (www.nycphatmixtapes.com) 50 Cent, hip-hop's most appealing new star, has a mushy voice and lots of sharp punch lines; this CD (credited to his group, G-Unit) shows off both. It also mocks Ja Rule with a series of phony duets - an impersonator growls along to Michelle Branch, Nickelback and Enrique Iglesias. 10. Ogurusu Norihide: "Humour (`Study' and `I')" (Carpark) A mesmerizing album by an aspiring Shinto priest. The first half ("Study") joins bucolic piano and acoustic guitar lines to slender electronic beats; on the second half ("I"), the electronic effects are so subtle you hardly notice them. Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company | Permissions | Privacy Policy From richardhunt@... Wed Jan 15 16:55:19 2003 From: richardhunt@... (richardhunt ) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:55:19 -0000 Subject: Add N to (X) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All John's programs are now kept on the RadioOne website for a week after broadcast. Let me know if you can't find them. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "The Iceman " wrote: > Aaargh, I missed last night's Add N to (X) sesssion!! What an idiot. > Did anyone tape it and if so will you be posting it on the > internet??? Someone please say yes. > thanks From keith@... Thu Jan 16 12:52:58 2003 From: keith@... (keith hawley) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:52:58 +0000 Subject: [peel] Re: Add N to (X) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030116115009.03b733b0@...> OK, probably being really thick here, but where are you downloading this from?? i was looking here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/thisweek/thisweek.shtml but can only find a streaming version, not the downloadable one you're talking about. can someone point me in the right direction??? thanks >yeah I know Richard but I've tried using that a couple of times but >the quality is terrible and it takes me about six hours to download a >whole show... > >--- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "richardhunt " > wrote: > > All John's programs are now kept on the RadioOne website for a week > > after broadcast. Let me know if you can't find them. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "The Iceman " > > wrote: > > > Aaargh, I missed last night's Add N to (X) sesssion!! What an > > idiot. From richardhunt@... Thu Jan 16 21:26:35 2003 From: richardhunt@... (richardhunt ) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:26:35 -0000 Subject: Add N to (X) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think you need broadband! I send the streamed version from my PC to receiver via USB. I can then listen or tape it, whatever - quality is excellent. Contact me directly via e-mail if I can help more. I also know nothing about downloadable versions. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "The Iceman " wrote: > Thanks Richard, I have tried downloading them before from John's page > but the quality is pretty poor and to download a whole show takes me > about six hours. > I'm sure someone will post the songs on the web in due course of time. > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "richardhunt " > wrote: > > All John's programs are now kept on the RadioOne website for a week > > after broadcast. Let me know if you can't find them. > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "The Iceman " > > wrote: > > > Aaargh, I missed last night's Add N to (X) sesssion!! What an > > idiot. > > > Did anyone tape it and if so will you be posting it on the > > > internet??? Someone please say yes. > > > thanks From stuart@... Fri Jan 17 16:49:50 2003 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:49:50 +0000 Subject: F48 In-Reply-To: <1042808787.136.46318.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1042808787.136.46318.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: without wanting to dredge up this F50 voting thing again, I wondered if many people here had seen the current issue of Unpeeled (zine which incorporates Peel playlists into its reviews and general tirades against bad music). They printed a festive 48, plus the contents of an email which was sent by one of the bands (can't really say which band, but as a clue, Cinerama were #1 in their revised chart...) Stuart -- From rockerq@... Fri Jan 17 20:21:33 2003 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:21:33 EST Subject: [peel] Unpeeled F48 Message-ID: <18a.14af313f.2b59b1bd@...> >>Unpeeled (zine which incorporates Peel playlists into its reviews and general tirades against bad music) >> Anyone know if they have a website? Cheers! Rocker From martinwheatley@... Fri Jan 17 21:02:46 2003 From: martinwheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:02:46 +0000 Subject: Add N to (X) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030117195230.00c6bd30@...> Keith Hawley said : >OK, probably being really thick here, but where are you downloading this from?? >i was looking here: >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/thisweek/thisweek.shtml >but can only find a streaming version, not the downloadable one you're >talking about. Some confusion here. There is no downloadable version. I think what was meant was that its possible to capture the streaming audio either by means of a recording device attached to the output of your sound card or by means of software on the computer. We had a thread on this just before Xmas - have a look in the archives at Yahoogroups It's obviously a lot harder with a dial up connection but some of the software (like TotalRecorder - mail me if you want to know more) will handle the gaps. Plus you don't have to listen to the whole show. You know when abouts the session tracks are and use of the Pause button on the BBC Player and hitting +5 mins a few times means its very quick to move on 20 minutes martinw From troche@... Sat Jan 18 06:32:42 2003 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:32:42 -0500 Subject: The BBCWS event if you want it Message-ID: A friend with a satellite dish here in Atlanta got a clean tape of the whole 185 minute BBCWS 75th Anniversary multi-country multi-artist music event from December that JP and Emma B hosted. I've taken the tapes and sequenced them, and made a 3-CD set for myself. Before clear the hard drive does anyone out there need/want their own copy? It was a unique show, Peel did a fine job of holding the unwieldily event together with his good humor... There's Youssou N'Dour from London and Baba Mal from Senegal plus other real-time live music from India, Mexico, Afghanistan. Transmission is AM mono, no interference, in need of a little bass boost, and the feed drops out for a half second a few times in the last hour, but otherwise a solid interesting show. I don't know what to charge... there's air mail expenses... would a 5 pound note be too much for a homemade 3-CD set? If you thinks that's OK, and want one, write me off-list and send me your mailing address and I'll make a set for you. Or, instead of £5 I will take any old HMHB CD in trade (other than "Editors Recommendation") that you have grown tired of and wish to get to a good home as they have no US label and I've almost nothing by them. tom in atlanta by the way - is Peel to do the Top 20 this weekend on R1? From davesrecords@... Mon Jan 20 16:14:34 2003 From: davesrecords@... (The Iceman ) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:14:34 -0000 Subject: Add N to (X) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Richard. I think you're right, you must need broadband, which would explain a lot. I'm not THE most computer literate of people me. I'll try and get a copy of the session off of someone on the Add N to X group. Perhaps Peel will repeat it sometime anyway. --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "richardhunt " wrote: > I think you need broadband! I send the streamed version from my PC > to receiver via USB. I can then listen or tape it, whatever - > quality is excellent. > Contact me directly via e-mail if I can help more. > I also know nothing about downloadable versions. > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "The Iceman " > wrote: > > Thanks Richard, I have tried downloading them before from John's > page > > but the quality is pretty poor and to download a whole show takes > me > > about six hours. > > I'm sure someone will post the songs on the web in due course of > time. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "richardhunt " > > wrote: > > > All John's programs are now kept on the RadioOne website for a > week > > > after broadcast. Let me know if you can't find them. > > > > > > --- In peel@yahoogroups.com, "The Iceman " > > > wrote: > > > > Aaargh, I missed last night's Add N to (X) sesssion!! What an > > > idiot. > > > > Did anyone tape it and if so will you be posting it on the > > > > internet??? Someone please say yes. > > > > thanks