From mozy@... Fri Nov 1 14:42:20 2002 From: mozy@... (dozy.freeserve.co.uk@...) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:42:20 -0500 Subject: [peel] Peel Webcast Message-ID: <63340-22002115113422092@...> Dear Reverend, 'Fraid not, due to rights issues: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.3ba767cf Sister Maureen From: Jon vicarage@....co.uk Does anyone know if the Gore Vidal article John mentions has been published online or just print? I assume it's the article mentioned here: http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,819931,00.html Peace out muthas, Reverend Stig http://www.vheissu.freeserve.co.uk Martin Wheatley wrote: > > Peel's webcast from yesterday is at > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/nottingham/cafe/webcasts.shtml > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From d.mckinnon@... Mon Nov 4 17:22:22 2002 From: d.mckinnon@... (Dougal McKinnon) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:22:22 +0000 Subject: Lonnie Donegan dead Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2400229.stm 'Skiffle king' Donegan dies Musician Lonnie Donegan, known as the "king of skiffle", has died aged 71. The Glasgow-born singer was midway through a UK tour after recovering from a heart operation earlier this year and was due to play a concert in Stoke, Staffordshire, on Monday. One of the most successful recording artists of the pre-Beatles era, he had three number one hits and numerous top 10 entries in the UK chart. The star was with his wife and son when he died in Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, on Sunday at about 0230 GMT. He had been complaining of back trouble shortly before he fell ill. Donegan was staying with friends during his tour. His last performance was in Nottingham - the first city he played when he became a star in 1957. The skiffle king's hits included Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavour, My Old Man's A Dustman, Cumberland Gap and Puttin' on the Style. His more recent work with Van Morrison led to a resurgence in his career. His skiffle music was a mixture of folk, jazz, gospel and the blues. Dire Straits guitarist Mark Knopfler, who recently played with Donegan in London, called him one of his greatest musical influences. Elvis recorded one of his songs, I'm Never Gonna Fall in Love Again, and in 1978 Sir Paul McCartney was the driving force behind a tribute album featuring appearances by Sir Elton John and Brian May. Afterthought Donegan has been described as Britain's first musical superstar and his skiffle music swept through the country in the 1950s. His single Rock Island Line, released almost as an afterthought by Decca Records, sold three million copies after being played on BBC radio and gave him a hit in the UK and the US. He quickly became a star in both countries although he had only ever wanted to be a jazz banjo player. In May this year he had heart surgery in London and seemed to have been on the mend, although he had suffered from cardiac trouble since the 1970s. Christened Anthony James, the star changed his name after a master of ceremonies confused him with the American guitarist Lonnie Johnson, and the name stuck. He was married three times and has seven children. A private funeral service is expected although will there will be a public memorial service later. dougal mckinnon (d.mckinnon@...) From troche@... Tue Nov 5 03:51:49 2002 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:51:49 -0500 Subject: (Reuters) King of skiffle Lonnie Donegan dies at 71 Message-ID: RTna 11/04 1059 UPDATE 1-King of skiffle Lonnie Donegan dies at 71 (adds details, background) By Paul Majendie LONDON (Reuters) - "King of Skiffle" Lonnie Donegan, once a big influence on The Beatles, has died at the age of 71 after collapsing on tour, his publicist said Monday. Donegan changed the face of British popular music, launching the skiffle boom of the 1950s with hits that ranged from "Rock Island Line" through "Cumberland Gap" to "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight)". The singer, who had suffered several heart attacks and was complaining of back trouble, died Sunday with his third wife Sharon and son Peter at his side in the central English town of Peterborough. He was halfway through a British tour and had already been forced to cancel two shows because of ill health. Donegan was hailed as the voice of skiffle, a gritty blend of folk, jazz, gospel and blues, which the Beatles acknowledged as a major influence. Eric Clapton had invited Donegan to perform at a tribute concert later this month for former Beatle George Harrison. John Lennon was playing in a skiffle band, the Quarrymen, when he first met Paul McCartney. Donegan, whose fans ranged from Mark Knopfler to Van Morrison, shot to fame on both sides of the Atlantic with the release in 1956 of the Leadbelly song "Rock Island Line." It was very rare for British singers to break into the U.S charts back then. He went on a 40-city tour and appeared on the Perry Como TV show, co-starring with Ronald Reagan. For six years, every single he released was a hit -- from "Pick a Bale of Cotton" to "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose its Flavour?" His success spawned a musical craze -- by 1956, London alone had almost 1,000 skiffle groups. Donegan, who played both banjo and guitar, was the first artist to win a gold record with a debut release. He is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as one of the biggest hit-makers of all time. As skiffle's popularity waned, Donegan took to the cabaret circuit, starring in Las Vegas, Hollywood and New York. His career was given a belated boost by a new generation of admirers with the release in 1978 of a tribute album -- "Putting on the Style" -- with Elton John, Brian May and Ringo Starr as his superstar backing band. In 1997, he was given a lifetime achievement award at the prestigious Ivor Novello Awards. A spokesman for the singer, reflecting on his legacy, said: "Lonnie Donegan was a legend -- he changed the face of British popular music. In a career that covered over 50 years, he inspired nearly every major musician alive today." REUTERS PA 11/04 1532 KING OF SKIFFLE WAS UK'S FIRST POP IDOL By PA News Reporters Skiffle king Lonnie Donegan was Britain's first pop superstar, bursting on the scene in the mid-1950s with a distinctive, lively sound based loosely on American folk music. His first big hit, Rock Island Line, achieved the then rare distinction of soaring up the US hit parade and from then until the Beatles era he was rarely out of the charts. Hits included Does Your Chewing Lose Its Flavour, My Old Man's A Dustman, Cumberland Gap and Puttin' On The Style. Donegan was born in Glasgow in April 1931 and christened James Anthony - black American guitarist Lonnie Johnson inspired the name change. He left school in Altrincham, south Manchester, at the age of 14 and worked as a clerk in a stockbroker's office before joining the Army at 18. Military service took him to Vienna where he met an American who introduced him to the country and western music that was to inspire him. Donegan had the key ingredients for pop stardom, including good looks which attracted crowds of screaming girls. His songs were easy to copy, raucous for the time and not the sort of music approved of by parents. During the skiffle craze he inspired many of the budding stars who were later to oust him from the top of British pop. The Beatles would arguably never have existed if it weren't for Donegan. As Paul McCartney once said: "When we were kids in Liverpool, the man who really started the craze for guitars was Lonnie Donegan. "He was the first person we had heard of from Britain to get to the coveted number one in the charts and we studied his records avidly. We all bought guitars to be in a skiffle group. He was the man." Mark Knopfler, Bill Wyman, Marc Bolan and Cliff Richard also cited him as an inspiration. When his record sales began to slip in the early 1960s, he branched out into musicals, television and film work. He also made regular comebacks and in 1978 persuaded stars such as Elton John and Ringo Starr to join him on the Puttin' On The Style album which featured reworkings of many of his old hits. He enjoyed a renaissance in 2000 when he teamed up with Van Morrison to record the album Skiffle Sessions: Live In Belfast. The collaboration introduced him to a new generation of fans and the album was a critical and chart success. A delighted Donegan said at the time: "I have now achieved my final ambition which was to have one last chart hit. "I didn't care how, where or when. I just wanted to give a massive raspberry to all those who thought I was washed up and finished - and now I've done it." Later that year he was awarded an MBE in the Queen's Birthday Honours List - and said it was about time. "I had wondered for many years why I hadn't got an MBE because every other schmuck had one," he said. "And Prince Charles agreed. When he presented it, he said `Not before time, Lonnie, not before time'. And I said `You're damn right, mate' - or words to that effect." Donegan loved being on the road and was regularly performing to sell-out crowds until the end, despite faltering health. He had three heart operations, most recently in May this year, but within a few months he was back on tour. He continued to live life to the full, marrying his third wife Sharon, a former teenage fan, at 48, and becoming a father for the seventh time in 1990 when he was 59. APn 11/04 1049 Obit-Donegan LONDON (AP) -- Lonnie Donegan, a musician whose "skiffle" sound inspired John Lennon and Pete Townshend to learn to play guitar, has died, his publicist said Monday. Donegan died Sunday in Peterborough, central England, while on a tour of Britain, publicist Judy Totton said. He was 71 and had suffered several heart attacks. Donegan's hits included "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor (on the Bedpost Overnight)," "My Old Man's A Dustman," and "Rock Island Line," but he may have been more important to British music for inspiring young talents to imitate and then eclipse his success. Donegan was born Anthony Donegan in Glasgow in 1931. A fan of American country, folk, and blues music, he changed his name as a tribute to bluesman Lonnie Johnson. Skiffle music, which Donegan introduced to Britain in the 1950s, was a mixture of styles that traced its roots to 1920s America, blending jug band, acoustic, folk, blues, and country and western styles. Woody Guthrie and Leadbelly were among his biggest influences. Skiffle was simple and cheap, apparently within the ability of anyone, regardless of musical talent. All that was needed was a guitar, a snare drum, jugs, a washboard or a standup bass made from a broom handle attached to an empty tea chest -- and two chords. "Rock Island Line" inspired two young Liverpudlians, John Lennon and George Harrison, to take up the guitar. A year later, Lennon's skiffle group, The Quarrymen, was playing at a church fete near Liverpool when 15-year-old Paul McCartney introduced himself. Pete Townshend, The Who's windmilling guitar player, started out as leader of The Detours, a skiffle group also featuring Who vocalist Roger Daltrey. Elton John, Ringo Starr and Queen's Brian May also paid tribute by playing on Donegan's 1978 album "Puttin' on the Style." Donegan continued to appear with Van Morrison, who started his career in a Belfast skiffle band called The Sputniks, and they teamed up for a 1999 recording, "Skiffle Sessions." Donegan was made a Member of the Order of the British Empire, one of Britain's highest honors, in 2000. He is survived by his wife and son. From nburling@... Tue Nov 5 14:45:25 2002 From: nburling@... (palacese25) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:45:25 -0000 Subject: Lonnie Donegan dead-Guardian obit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lonnie Donegan, sultan of skiffle, dies at 71 John Ezard Tuesday November 5, 2002 Lonnie Donegan, father of skiffle, first global superstar of British pop and the first to popularise black music, has died on tour aged 71, it was announced yesterday. His out-of-the blue hits in 1955 with versions of John Henry and Leadbelly's Rock Island Line at the age of 24 began a revolution in the charts and in the taste of the young. He remains admired by generations of younger artists, including Mark Knopfler, Brian May and Van Morrison. A spokeswoman for Donegan said: "In a career that covered over 50 years, he inspired nearly every major musician alive today." Donegan was due to sing in a tribute concert for George Harrison in London later this month. Paul McCartney once said of him: "When we were kids in Liverpool, the man who really started the craze for guitars was Lonnie Donegan. "We studied his records avidly. We all bought guitars to be in a skiffle group. He was the man." Donegan, who had a history of heart trouble, complained of feeling unwell after performing in Nottingham. He died in Peterborough at the home of friends. His death ends a career which started when he formed a band with the jazzman Chris Barber in the early 1950s. Barber, who is touring in Germany, could not be contacted. Last night his longstanding friend and associate Vic Gibbons said no one should be sad that Donegan was still in harness when he died. "He loved performing. It was not something he had to do financially." He added: "I think Chris will be particularly upset because their association has continued. There have been various anniversary concerts where they have reassembled the band complete with liniment and Zimmer frames". Donegan, who called himself Lonnie in homage to the black blues guitarist Lonnie Johnson, was the son of a Glasgow classical violinist. His father, often unemployed, moved the family to east London in 1933 and discouraged his son from a musical career. Donegan bought his first guitar at 14, learning from BBC radio to play songs like Frankie and Johnny and Puttin' on the Style. These led him to the music of Josh White, Bessie Smith and Leadbelly. In 1952 he formed a band with Barber and Ken Colyer, just deported from the US for playing with black musicians. "They did not think there could be money in it," Gibbons said. "The motive was commitment. They used to drive from London and Manchester and back the same day, for a £30 fee." Donegan took the word skiffle, meaning party, from a US record sleeve. In 1955 a BBC pop show host attacked an album by the band for jazzing up a number by Gracie Fields. Thanks to this the album sold well, prompting Decca to issue singles of Donegan's John Henry and Rock Island Line. These topped the British and US charts. "Because the music was so new, people could not get it into their heads that it would last a long time," Gibbons said. Donegan had a string of hits including novelty songs such as My Old Man's A Dustman, but by the mid-60s his glory days were over, and he retreated into comedy and cabaret. Elton John, Ringo Starr and Brian May paid tribute by playing on Donegan's 1978 album Puttin' on the Style, and Donegan teamed up with Van Morrison for a 1999 recording, Skiffle Sessions. In 1997 Donegan received a lifetime achievement award. In November 2000 he collected an MBE from Buckingham Palace. Donegan said: "When Prince Charles presented it to me, he said 'Not before time Lonnie, not before time'. And I said 'You're damn right, mate' - or words to that effect." --- In peel@y..., Dougal McKinnon wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2400229.stm > > > 'Skiffle king' Donegan dies > > Musician Lonnie Donegan, known as the "king of skiffle", has died aged 71. > The Glasgow-born singer was midway through a UK tour after recovering > from a heart operation earlier this year and was due to play a concert > in Stoke, Staffordshire, on Monday. > > One of the most successful recording artists of the pre-Beatles era, he > had three number one hits and numerous top 10 entries in the UK chart. > > The star was with his wife and son when he died in Peterborough, > Cambridgeshire, on Sunday at about 0230 GMT. He had been complaining of > back trouble shortly before he fell ill. > > Donegan was staying with friends during his tour. His last performance > was in Nottingham - the first city he played when he became a star in > 1957. > > The skiffle king's hits included Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its > Flavour, My Old Man's A Dustman, Cumberland Gap and Puttin' on the > Style. > > His more recent work with Van Morrison led to a resurgence in his > career. His skiffle music was a mixture of folk, jazz, gospel and the > blues. > > Dire Straits guitarist Mark Knopfler, who recently played with Donegan > in London, called him one of his greatest musical influences. > > Elvis recorded one of his songs, I'm Never Gonna Fall in Love Again, > and in 1978 Sir Paul McCartney was the driving force behind a tribute > album featuring appearances by Sir Elton John and Brian May. > > Afterthought > > Donegan has been described as Britain's first musical superstar and his > skiffle music swept through the country in the 1950s. > > His single Rock Island Line, released almost as an afterthought by > Decca Records, sold three million copies after being played on BBC > radio and gave him a hit in the UK and the US. > > He quickly became a star in both countries although he had only ever > wanted to be a jazz banjo player. > > In May this year he had heart surgery in London and seemed to have been > on the mend, although he had suffered from cardiac trouble since the > 1970s. > > Christened Anthony James, the star changed his name after a master of > ceremonies confused him with the American guitarist Lonnie Johnson, and > the name stuck. > > He was married three times and has seven children. > > A private funeral service is expected although will there will be a > public memorial service later. > > dougal mckinnon > (d.mckinnon@s...) From mark.harris@... Thu Nov 7 10:28:19 2002 From: mark.harris@... (adam_nuisance) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:28:19 -0000 Subject: Track on 24th Nov show Message-ID: Hello... Just wondering whether anyone heard a track upon the 24th of October's show which featured a chap playing a one-string guitar. Twas near the start of the show. I've been continually re-checking the BBC site for tracklistings, but the 24th isn't listed. :-( Thanks, Mark From phil@... Fri Nov 8 13:27:31 2002 From: phil@... (phil@...) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:27:31 +0000 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 547 In-Reply-To: <1036744055.107.24074.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: That was Willie Joe & His Unitar - Unitar Rock Phil peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Track on 24th Nov show > From: "adam_nuisance" > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:28:19 -0000 > From: "adam_nuisance" > Subject: Track on 24th Nov show > > Hello... > > Just wondering whether anyone heard a track upon the 24th of > October's show which featured a chap playing a one-string guitar. > Twas near the start of the show. I've been continually re-checking > the BBC site for tracklistings, but the 24th isn't listed. :-( > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From amilli6825@... Mon Nov 11 20:30:43 2002 From: amilli6825@... (amilli6825) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:30:43 -0000 Subject: playlists autumn 1972!! wanted Message-ID: can anyone help? From willowct@... Thu Nov 14 17:46:09 2002 From: willowct@... (willow) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:46:09 -0000 Subject: Listen to my indie radio show, tomorrow - Friday15th Message-ID: Listen to my indie radio show, tomorrow - Friday15th 3 til 6 UK time on www.iconradio.co.uk . Just go to the site and click on `listen live' I Will be playing the likes of Belle and Sebastian, The Flaming Lips, PJ Harvey, Sebadoh and many more great Bands, old and new, and from across several continents. Send requests and comments to willowct@... Cheers Willow From leohilarious@... Sun Nov 17 02:16:22 2002 From: leohilarious@... (leohilarious) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 01:16:22 -0000 Subject: Looking for Peel show tapes from the mid-80's Message-ID: I've been trying to locate someone with a good collection of Peel shows from the mid-80's or so. There are a few shows which I'm very keen to get, specifically a couple by the Housemartins. I've been looking for quite some time without much luck. I can give dates and particulars if anyone thinks they could help me. Cheers all! ~Leo From dainisb@... Tue Nov 19 10:35:58 2002 From: dainisb@... (dainisb@...) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:35:58 +0200 Subject: The Green Dolphin's Poll #10 In-Reply-To: <1037521505.111.3151.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <3DDA221E.16190.B76D11@localhost> The results of The Green Dolphin's Poll #10 (Best bands/solo artists and albums of all time) has been updated at http://gd.times.lv/gd10.htm Dainis http://gd.times.lv/ From willowct@... Thu Nov 21 13:56:48 2002 From: willowct@... (=?iso-8859-1?q?Willow=20Colios-Terry?=) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:56:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Indie Radio show In-Reply-To: <1037867490.108.64256.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20021121125648.84595.qmail@...> I will be presenting another of my radio shows this friday on www.iconradio.co.uk I will be playing the likes of Saloon, Sebadoh, Luke Haines, releases on Fortuna pop and Bearos Records and much more old and new. Some Television, only ones and Love also. please tune in 3-6 uk time this friday 22nd of Novemember. Just go to www.iconradio.co.uk and click on 'listen live' cheers Willow __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From Noisysignal@... Thu Nov 21 14:48:46 2002 From: Noisysignal@... (Noisysignal@...) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:48:46 EST Subject: http://www.absorb.org/peel/ Message-ID: Has this already been mentioned here? I new to the group so forgive me if I'm repeating old hat :) From stuart@... Fri Nov 22 14:21:42 2002 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:21:42 +0000 Subject: Indie Radio show In-Reply-To: <1037953510.148.22447.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1037953510.148.22447.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: it occurred to me I've probably never plugged MY indie radio show, so here goes. It's at radiomagnetic.com - primarily a dance station, but Fallout is the 'crossover ' show. From 4-6pm (GMT) every Tuesday, indie/electro sounds can be heard - just playlisting this wee's show which will feature amongst others: JSBE, candidate, David Holmes, Suicide, The Aphrodisiacs, Spare Snare, Ladytron, Add N to (x), Capital Stereo Conspiracy, Frog pocket... loads of Peel-friendly stuff there! Cheers Stuart http://www.radiomagnetic.com -- From flight759@... Sun Nov 24 05:04:22 2002 From: flight759@... (flight759) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 04:04:22 -0000 Subject: The Mekons/Ebay Message-ID: MEKONS Heaven & Back Hens Teeth Vol 1CD: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2252&item=92453 3527 MEKONS Where Were You Hens Teeth Vol 2 CD: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2252&item=92450 0866 From me@... Sun Nov 24 13:56:04 2002 From: me@... (Ed Blackmore) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:56:04 -0000 Subject: Pet Shop Boys Message-ID: <3DE0CC64.5754.552DB0D@localhost> I thought the Pet Shop Boys session last week was excellent, I've always listened to their music, before I discovered Peel. Like the listener who John read out, hearing PSB on the show is like going full circle. To those who didn't like it, my view is listening to a radio show with variety means you'll hear things you don't like. I never thought of Peel as playing "music I like" but more "music I could like". Ed=============================================== == Ed Blackmore - http://www.edblackmore.net From Kismetro@... Sun Nov 24 15:56:47 2002 From: Kismetro@... (Kismetro@...) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:56:47 EST Subject: [peel] Pet Shop Boys Message-ID: <162.179a2357.2b1242af@...> In a message dated 24/11/02 12:57:53 GMT Standard Time, me@... writes: > I thought the Pet Shop Boys session last week was excellent, > I've always listened to their music, before I discovered Peel. > Like the listener who John read out, hearing PSB on the show is > like going full circle. I've always been ambivalent about PSB but I always thought when they really hit the mark they were peerless, like always on my mind. That was a remarkable track. From janb@... Sun Nov 24 16:16:58 2002 From: janb@... (Jan Buxton) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 15:16:58 -0000 Subject: [peel] Pet Shop Boys References: <162.179a2357.2b1242af@...> Message-ID: <00a001c293cc$896982c0$e74dfea9@jan> Kismetro@... suggested that: > I've always been ambivalent about PSB but I always thought when they > really hit the mark they were peerless, like always on my mind. That > was a remarkable track. Same here, Suburbia and It's A Sin are fantastic. -- Jan From g.j.steel@... Sun Nov 24 22:49:48 2002 From: g.j.steel@... (edin_pgrad) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:49:48 -0000 Subject: festive fifty preview Message-ID: Like last year, I've done a Festive Fifty preview based on airplay on Peel's show - last year this came up with the correct prediction for the number one, and several of the top ten. You can take a look at this year's top ten by airplay here: http://www.radio.plus.com/festive2002.html Remember - only six more days to vote! cheers, gram From Kismetro@... Sun Nov 24 22:59:19 2002 From: Kismetro@... (Kismetro@...) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:59:19 EST Subject: [peel] festive fifty preview Message-ID: <143.360b656.2b12a5b7@...> In a message dated 24/11/02 21:50:46 GMT Standard Time, g.j.steel@... writes: > Like last year, I've done a Festive Fifty preview based on airplay on > Peel's show - last year this came up with the correct prediction for > the number one, and several of the top ten. You can take a look at > this year's top ten by airplay here: I hesitated to send my choice this year cos one of my favourites was played on the Gilles Peterson Show, but here goes anyway 1 Ballboy - Songs on the radio 2 Uplifter - Harvest Time 3 Pitman - Phone Pitman From troche@... Mon Nov 25 01:14:05 2002 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:14:05 -0500 Subject: Melt-Banana In-Reply-To: <1037953510.148.22447.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1037953510.148.22447.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Melt-Banana played here 2 weeks ago and fine they were too. They played here the same night that The Residents played across town, and a few friends took in both in one evening. I saw The Residents once years ago and was glad I did but once was certainly enough for me. MB is a different story... Fourth time I'd seen 'em, good as ever if not better. So two things: A local magazine commissioned me to write a feature on Melt Banana, and I'm about done with it. It's pretty interesting, I got to interview Yasuko Onuki, their erm, unique, vocalist and driving force. If there are no objections I'll post it here in a few days, tho' it's somewhat long. 2000 words or so. I'll subject it "Melt Banana Feature" so those who don't want to see it can take a pass right there. Alos, I was testing some old audio links and have discovered that the whole 30 min MB peel session is still available in the BBC server, even though the weblink to it is no longer displayed. Hear it by typing or pasting this address into RealPlayer: rtsp://rmv7.bbc.net.uk/radio1/g2/djs/peel/melt_banana_mv_oct2001.rm tom r attanta From festive50@... Tue Nov 26 00:04:19 2002 From: festive50@... (Phil Edwards) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:04:19 -0000 Subject: [peel] Melt-Banana In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hear it by typing or pasting this address into RealPlayer: rtsp://rmv7.bbc.net.uk/radio1/g2/djs/peel/melt_banana_mv_oct2001.rm Hi Tom How on earth did you manage to get the above address? I know when they first started webcasting you could look at source code for page and look for the .rm file in source code and paste this into realplayer, it worked but after a few days they changed the format and by a lot of skulduggery etc. I discovered that the following link http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/peel_tue.rpm became rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra and if you change tue to wed or thu you get subsequent shows. Very useful to bypass BBC's REALPLAYER clone where you can only advance prog. in 15 min chunks. So how do you find correct links for individual and old sessions. I managed to find URL for a couple of sessions by complete fluke. Is there a formula for searching for old sessions not currently listed on page? I'd be eternally grateful for an answer. regards Phil Edwards Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release Date: 28/02/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release Date: 28/02/2002 From kismetro@... Tue Nov 26 12:34:53 2002 From: kismetro@... (Kismetro) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:34:53 -0000 Subject: [peel] Melt-Banana In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wouldn't mind knowing that. A lot of times you can get the Real Media files by simply looking for the ra pointers in the url and changing them to end rm but if there's a more systematic way I'm certainly up for knowing it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Edwards [mailto:festive50@...] > Sent: 25 November 2002 23:04 > To: peel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [peel] Melt-Banana > > Hi Tom > How on earth did you manage to get the above address? > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/02 From leohilarious@... Tue Nov 26 19:54:53 2002 From: leohilarious@... (Leo Hilarious) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:54:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [peel] Digest Number 557 In-Reply-To: <1038299252.118.1861.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20021126185453.37714.qmail@...> For even greater skullduggery... It should also be pointed out that the very best method for downloading these Real Audio files is with a program called "StreamBoxVCR Suite". This is able to download files via the RTSP protocol, which is something your average downloader cannot do. Once you drop the correct link into this program, it will download the source file onto your computer and using an included utility called "StreamBox Ripper" you can convert this to MP3 or Wav. Extremely useful and saves the hassle of dealing with Real Player at all. Get it here: http://ent.online.ln.cn/files/Streambox.Vcr.1.1Suite.zip Also, in general, the way to find these links is to open every link with a text editor and scroll/search until you find your RM source file. Sometimes these are buried several links deep. And getting more common is a method of hiding the source link in a very small RM file. So you'd have to download this with StreamBoxVCR, and open it with a text editor to find the hidden source file. All to be used strictly for educational purposes of course! ; ) Leo --- peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: Melt-Banana > From: "Phil Edwards" > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:04:19 -0000 > From: "Phil Edwards" > Subject: RE: Melt-Banana > > Hear it by typing or pasting this address into > RealPlayer: > rtsp://rmv7.bbc.net.uk/radio1/g2/djs/peel/melt_banana_mv_oct2001.rm > > Hi Tom > How on earth did you manage to get the above > address? > I know when they first started webcasting you could > look at source code for > page and look for > the .rm file in source code and paste this into > realplayer, it worked but > after a few days they changed the format and by a > lot of skulduggery etc. > I discovered that the following link > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/peel_tue.rpm > > became > rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio1/peel_tue.ra > > and if you change tue to wed or thu you get > subsequent shows. > > Very useful to bypass BBC's REALPLAYER clone where > you can only advance > prog. in 15 min chunks. > So how do you find correct links for individual and > old sessions. > > I managed to find URL for a couple of sessions by > complete fluke. > Is there a formula for searching for old sessions > not currently listed on > page? > I'd be eternally grateful for an answer. > > regards > Phil Edwards > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release > Date: 28/02/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release > Date: 28/02/2002 > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From aouv78@... Tue Nov 26 19:56:55 2002 From: aouv78@... (markwebb) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:56:55 -0000 Subject: [peel] Looking for Peel show tapes from the mid-80's References: Message-ID: <000a01c2957d$96fe6420$91bf5651@oemcomputer> I have 2 Housemartins sessions. 1 from 85 - Drop Down/Flag Day/Joy Joy Joy/Stand at Ease and 1 from 86 - Over There/Happy Hour/Get Up Off Our Knees/Caravan of Love. My email is markwebb@... ----- Original Message ----- From: leohilarious To: peel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:16 AM Subject: [peel] Looking for Peel show tapes from the mid-80's I've been trying to locate someone with a good collection of Peel shows from the mid-80's or so. There are a few shows which I'm very keen to get, specifically a couple by the Housemartins. I've been looking for quite some time without much luck. I can give dates and particulars if anyone thinks they could help me. Cheers all! ~Leo Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From stuart@... Wed Nov 27 10:25:44 2002 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:25:44 +0000 Subject: Digest Number 557 In-Reply-To: <1038385775.239.28413.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1038385775.239.28413.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: >It should also be pointed out that the very best >method for downloading these Real Audio files is with >a program called "StreamBoxVCR Suite". This is able >to download files via the RTSP protocol, which is >something your average downloader cannot do. Once you >drop the correct link into this program, it will >download the source file onto your computer and using >an included utility called "StreamBox Ripper" you can >convert this to MP3 or Wav. Extremely useful and >saves the hassle of dealing with Real Player at all. unfortunately this is a PC-only program (.exe). You can try Audion 3 which has (as a trial) stream recording built-in - http://www.panic.com/audion/ S -- From martin_wheatley@... Wed Nov 27 13:32:15 2002 From: martin_wheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:32:15 +0000 Subject: Melt Banana Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20021127123137.00c7fec8@...> >Hear it by typing or pasting this address into RealPlayer: >rtsp://rmv7.bbc.net.uk/radio1/g2/djs/peel/melt_banana_mv_oct2001.rm > On the subject of Real Player links Lee Perry fans may like to stick this one into their player http://war.str3am.com:7410/ martinw From troche@... Wed Nov 27 04:01:44 2002 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:01:44 -0500 Subject: Melt-Banana In-Reply-To: <1038299252.118.1861.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1038299252.118.1861.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: At 8:27 AM +0000 11/26/02, peel@yahoogroups.com wrote: > >Subject: RE: Melt-Banana > >Hear it by typing or pasting this address into RealPlayer: >rtsp://rmv7.bbc.net.uk/radio1/g2/djs/peel/melt_banana_mv_oct2001.rm > >Hi Tom >How on earth did you manage to get the above address? I lucked into it... The Mac version of RealPlayer automatically leaves an icon on the desktop when a site is visited for the first time ( I think the PC equivalent is "shortcut" - even though Apple though of it first , ha ha). I keep a folder of these icons - they're handy 'cos I can double click on one and it launches real audio, dials the modem, plays the file in one step. If I force open the icon in a word processor I see what the RSTP address is. I never expected the MB session to play but there it was. I have no other Peel session links saved, sorry. >Is there a formula for searching for old sessions not currently listed on >page? >I'd be eternally grateful for an answer. If there was some old session you were looking for maybe you could type into google the name of the band and "Radio 1" and "Peel session" and etc and see if Google still has the old webpage on file in its cache (the cache is google's way of letting you see what Google saw long ago even tho the link might currently be obsolete.) Could you then look at the source code of the old cached page...? It might work.... tom From martin_wheatley@... Wed Nov 27 15:05:19 2002 From: martin_wheatley@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 14:05:19 +0000 Subject: Digest Number 557 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20021127131647.00c4ce48@...> >For even greater skullduggery... >It should also be pointed out that the very best >method for downloading these Real Audio files is with >a program called "StreamBoxVCR Suite" Streambox was great for it's time but it suffers from being several years old It's a bit geeky to use and it struggles withanything newer than the basic RealAudio format I note that the 1Xtra part of the BBC RealPlayer has a Windows Media button as well so that may come to all of them in time There are a couple of progs which will intercept anything sent to your soundcard and so are format independent (at the moment anyway) HardDiskOgg at http://www.fridgesoft.de/ is free and is best for radio streams as you don't get too much control over recordings TotalRecorder at http://www.HighCriteria.com is shareware The free copy only plays for 40 seconds which is no good but it's not expensive and theres a widely available registration number floating about on the Internet (not that I would suggest anyone use that - Oh No) This does have the advantage of not requiring any starting synchronisation - you just start it and it starts recording when it detects any sound going to the card - great for individual files in other words) This is also very useful for those using dialup as it detects and ignores buffering gaps whilst recording if you set it up that way Both of these progs require that you use other progs to play the files - either direct from the webpage or on your machine. For the record I have Real One Player 6.0 and as long as you go through and turn off all the 'phone home' items in the Preferences it seem to be well behaved. More recent versions however are a different matter since they well tell Auntie Real your inside leg measurement whether you like it or not All of this is of course for use with non-copyright material as we are all law abiding citizens here From oorobertmccord@... Sat Nov 30 07:23:43 2002 From: oorobertmccord@... (oorobertmccord) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 06:23:43 -0000 Subject: Dick Dale sessions from 5/10/00 and 12/8/95 and 8/4/95 Message-ID: I am looking for any of these. It is of the upmost importance that I find them as it is a present for one of the band members. Thanks for the help! From ubu.roi@... Sat Nov 30 10:45:18 2002 From: ubu.roi@... (Ge) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:45:18 +0100 Subject: Pink military sessions References: <1038299252.118.1861.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <003c01c29855$3bd2ad60$39891897@h1n6n0> Hi there, a while ago I posted a request for the Peel sessions of Pink Military. Somebody replied but unfortunately I can't find the email anymore, so, here's another one. I'm (still) looking for the Pink Military peel sessions (afaik there should be 2). Any help is appreciated Thanks ge From Qestral@... Sat Nov 30 11:21:34 2002 From: Qestral@... (Qestral@...) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 05:21:34 EST Subject: [peel] Pink military sessions Message-ID: <20.36027c2.2b19eb2e@...> This was the only reply I could find! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peel/message/1483 From troche@... Sat Nov 30 15:17:41 2002 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:17:41 -0500 Subject: if ya have a minute... In-Reply-To: <1038039888.142.48837.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1038039888.142.48837.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: This is way off topic but here goes.... I have a photo that's a finalist in an Atlanta Journal Constitution Reader's Choice Travel Photo Contest. It's my daughter in front of a mask shop in the New Orleans French Quarter -- shelves-full of smiling disembodied heads looking happily at her. If by some chance you find yourself surfing by the ballot page at http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/travel/photocontest2002/people/ you might have a look. It's #19 if you feel its worthy of a vote. But it has to be in by the end of Dec 1. Some days a beat up Pentax can match wits with the Hasslelblad gang. Now back to our regular programming.... tom r