From trevor_huddleston@... Tue Aug 13 23:05:38 2002 From: trevor_huddleston@... (wire100trevor) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:05:38 -0000 Subject: Howard Cosell track - Mogwai? Message-ID: Hi A few years ago, I heard a session track that sampled the "legendary" US sports presenter Howard Cosell. I am pretty sure that it was done by Mogwai and that because of problems of clearing the sample the track would never be released. Can anyone confirm my memory or correct it? Many thanks! From rob-bl@... Wed Aug 14 10:18:25 2002 From: rob-bl@... (Rob Strong) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:18:25 +0100 Subject: [peel] Howard Cosell track - Mogwai? References: Message-ID: <008d01c2436b$2c23caa0$912430d5@rob> From: "wire100trevor" > A few years ago, I heard a session track that sampled the "legendary" > US sports presenter Howard Cosell. I am pretty sure that it was done > by Mogwai and that because of problems of clearing the sample the > track would never be released. Can anyone confirm my memory or > correct it? The Mogwai track is called 'Helps Both Ways' and samples John Madden. You're correct in saying that they were refused permission to use the sample, and the track appeared on their 'Come On Die Young' album with a different commentary sample. As far as I'm aware, the track never formed part of a Peel session, but it was part of the set Mogwai played at Chemikal Underground's 5th birthday party, which Peel broadcast in March 2000. For more info than anyone could possibly need on Mogwai: http://www.diskant.net/brightlight Rob From trevor_huddleston@... Wed Aug 14 22:54:43 2002 From: trevor_huddleston@... (wire100trevor) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:54:43 -0000 Subject: Thanks for Mogwai! New questions about The Fall; Boyracer and FGTH!! Message-ID: Firstly, Huge thanks to Rob Strong for sorting out the Mogwai issue! By a happy coincidence I have just purchased 3 CD-Rs of Mogwai rarities from a guy on Ebay. I had only listened to the Peel Sessions disc in the collection and was mortified to find that the John Madden track wasn't there. However, another disc does seem to have the track with the Madden sample!! Secondly: The Fall I have just bought the Rough Trade Singles CD box set solely because the Kicker Conspiracy CD has the Peel Session version of Container Drivers on it - or so it is claimed! I am certain that the version on the CD issue is not the same version as I have on the vinyl 7 inch single - can this be true? I am without access to a turntable at the moment so can't verify this theory. I just seem to remember that the Peel version of Container Drivers has a fantastic clean sound and possibly the finest 4 second guitar solo ever recorded - anyone able to verify the validity of the CD version as the true Peel Session? Thirdly: Boyracer A few years ago I heard a Boyracer session with a track called "Pretentious Headline Band Ego Problem". This was close to record of the year in my view! I have a lot of Boyracer stuff but have never found any CDs or vinyl with this track on. Does anyone know whether this track has an incarnation outside the Peel Session - if not, does anyone have the facility to get a version on CDR for me? I will happily pay whatever you ask (within some reason of course!!) Fourthly: FGTH The Peel Session recorded by Frankie Goes to Hollywood has definitive versions of their early tracks (and shows they could just about play their instruments). Has this ever been released in any official form. If not, does anyone have a means of getting the session onto CDR? I will pay through the nose for a copy!! (caveat as above). Sorry to go on, but with one question answered within hours I thought I would push my luck .... Trevor Huddleston From markbursa@... Wed Aug 14 23:21:15 2002 From: markbursa@... (markbursa@...) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:21:15 EDT Subject: [peel] Thanks for Mogwai! New questions about The Fall; Boyracer and FGTH!! Message-ID: <1a1.6f2a3da.2a8c23cb@...> Trevor, > >>I have just bought the Rough Trade Singles CD box set solely because > the Kicker Conspiracy CD has the Peel Session version of Container > Drivers on it - or so it is claimed! I am certain that the version on > the CD issue is not the same version as I have on the vinyl 7 inch > single - can this be true? I am without access to a turntable at the > moment so can't verify this theory. I just seem to remember that the > Peel version of Container Drivers has a fantastic clean sound and > possibly the finest 4 second guitar solo ever recorded - anyone able > to verify the validity of the CD version as the true Peel Session?<< It's the Grotesque version (both CDrivers and New Puritan). Castle apparently wouldn't pay the BBC licence fee for the Peel tracks. So they produced a beautiful, but pointless box set..... Mark From trevor_huddleston@... Wed Aug 14 23:32:12 2002 From: trevor_huddleston@... (wire100trevor) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:32:12 -0000 Subject: Thanks for Mogwai! New questions about The Fall; Boyracer and FGTH!! In-Reply-To: <1a1.6f2a3da.2a8c23cb@...> Message-ID: Hi Mark Many thanks for the quick reply. Bugger! I'll get my lawyer on the case in the morning ... Trevor --- In peel@y..., markbursa@a... wrote: > Trevor, > > > >>I have just bought the Rough Trade Singles CD box set solely because > > the Kicker Conspiracy CD has the Peel Session version of Container > > Drivers on it - or so it is claimed! I am certain that the version on > > the CD issue is not the same version as I have on the vinyl 7 inch > > single - can this be true? I am without access to a turntable at the > > moment so can't verify this theory. I just seem to remember that the > > Peel version of Container Drivers has a fantastic clean sound and > > possibly the finest 4 second guitar solo ever recorded - anyone able > > to verify the validity of the CD version as the true Peel Session? << > > It's the Grotesque version (both CDrivers and New Puritan). Castle apparently > wouldn't pay the BBC licence fee for the Peel tracks. So they produced a > beautiful, but pointless box set..... > > Mark From stuart@... Thu Aug 15 09:28:21 2002 From: stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:28:21 +0100 Subject: Howard Cosell track - Mogwai? In-Reply-To: <1029362333.223.69760.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1029362333.223.69760.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: > > A few years ago, I heard a session track that sampled the "legendary" >> US sports presenter Howard Cosell. I am pretty sure that it was done >> by Mogwai and that because of problems of clearing the sample the >> track would never be released. Can anyone confirm my memory or >> correct it? > >The Mogwai track is called 'Helps Both Ways' and samples John Madden. You're >correct in saying that they were refused permission to use the sample, and >the track appeared on their 'Come On Die Young' album with a different >commentary sample. As far as I'm aware, the track never formed part of a >Peel session, but it was part of the set Mogwai played at Chemikal >Underground's 5th birthday party, which Peel broadcast in March 2000. What eventually came out on the 'No Education' ep? The Madden sample was on the initial promos for the track, I'm sure; did the actual release contain the re-recorded version? Stuart -- From troche@... Thu Aug 22 05:34:50 2002 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:34:50 -0400 Subject: Useful or Pointless? Message-ID: AP World - General News BBC nominates 100 greatest Britons Wed Aug 21,10:08 AM ET LONDON - Princess Diana is in, Prince Charles is out. John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison are on the list of the 100 greatest Britons of all time released Wednesday, but Ringo is not. Richard Burton made it, but Elizabeth Taylor didn't. The British Broadcasting Corp. polled more than 30,000 people to come up with the list, in which John Lydon (better known as Sex Pistol Johnny Rotten) and Boy George mingle with Winston Churchill, Isaac Newton and Tim Berners Lee, the father of the Internet. Stretching eligibility to all of the British Isles, the list also includes two Irish rockers, Bono of U2 and Bob Geldof. The BBC2 television channel plans a series of programs later in the year to choose a top 10. "I'm sure this series will arouse enthusiastic debate in offices and homes all around the country. Just from talking to people I've got a real sense of how passionately they feel about the subject and who they feel is worthy of the title of Great Briton," said Jane Root, comptroller of BBC2. The top 100, in alphabetical order: Alfred the Great Julie Andrews King Arthur. David Attenborough Jane Austen Charles Babbage Lord Baden Powell Douglas Bader David Beckham Alexander Graham Bell Tony Benn Tim Berners Lee Aneurin Bevan Tony Blair ( news - web sites) William Blake William Booth Boudicca David Bowie Richard Branson Robert the Bruce Isambard Kingdom Brunel Richard Burton Donald Campbell William Caxton Charlie Chaplin Geoffrey Chaucer Leonard Cheshire Winston Churchill James Connolly Captain James Cook Michael Crawford Oliver Cromwell Aleister Crowley Charles Darwin Diana, Princess of Wales Charles Dickens Francis Drake King Edward I Edward Elgar Queen Elizabeth I Queen Elizabeth II ( news - web sites) Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother Michael Faraday Guy Fawkes Alexander Fleming Bob Geldof Owain Glyndwr George Harrison John Harrison Stephen Hawking King Henry II King Henry V King Henry VIII Paul Hewson (Bono) Edward Jenner T.E. Lawrence John Lennon David Livingstone David Lloyd George John Logie Baird John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) James Clerk Maxwell Paul McCartney Freddie Mercury Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery Bobby Moore Thomas More Eric Morecambe Admiral Horatio Nelson Isaac Newton Florence Nightingale George O'Dowd (Boy George) Thomas Paine Emmeline Pankhurst John Peel Enoch Powell Walter Raleigh Steve Redgrave King Richard III Cliff Richard J.K. Rowling ( news - web sites) Robert Falcon Scott Ernest Shackleton William Shakespeare George Stephenson Marie Stopes Margaret Thatcher William Tindale J.R.R. Tolkien Alan Turing Queen Victoria William Wallace Barnes Wallis James Watt Unknown soldier Duke of Wellington John Wesley Frank Whittle William Wilberforce Robbie Williams < Previous Story Email Story Print Story Next Story > Message Boards: Post/Read Msgs (76 msg Aug 21, 11:16 PM ET) From d.mckinnon@... Thu Aug 22 09:53:07 2002 From: d.mckinnon@... (Dougal McKinnon) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:53:07 +0100 Subject: [peel] Useful or Pointless? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From The BBC website: veteran radio DJ John Peel, who features on the list . "If this list is genuine and not an elaborate Mickey-take, there is something very strange going on in our lovely country," he told BBC News. dougal mckinnon (d.mckinnon@...) From rob-bl@... Thu Aug 22 12:33:07 2002 From: rob-bl@... (Rob Strong) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:33:07 +0100 Subject: [peel] Re: Howard Cosell track - Mogwai? References: <1029362333.223.69760.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <006a01c249ca$47aaea00$1fea1e3e@rob> From: "Stuart McHugh" > What eventually came out on the 'No Education' ep? The Madden sample > was on the initial promos for the track, I'm sure; did the actual > release contain the re-recorded version? no, it was replaced with 'Small Children In The Background'. Rob From adyfoley@... Thu Aug 29 15:38:47 2002 From: adyfoley@... (=?iso-8859-1?q?ady=20foley?=) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:38:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Fwd: AUDIOSCOPE Message-ID: <20020829133847.72340.qmail@...> Apologies for any duplicate mails, but this is an all day gig in aid of the homeless charity shelter. there's some great bands playing and it's all for a good cause so hope you don't mind me passing the word on.. cheers ady What: Audioscope '02 with Pram, Nought, Appliance, Cat On Form, Souvaris, Dustball, Eeebleee, Fighting Red Adair, Sunnyvale Noise Sub-element When: Saturday 7th September Where: The Zodiac, Cowley Road, Oxford ....>>>>....AUDIOSCOPE news update...>>>>>.... Ticket information First of all, a reminder that tickets are now available from a few different places. First of all, you can call into the Zodiac box office any time between 1.00 pm and 6.00 pm from Monday to Saturday, where advance tickets are available for just �5 (tickets will cost �6 on the door). You can contact the box office on 01865 420042. Tickets are also available simply by clicking on this link: http://www.wegottickets.com/gig.asp?1155 This will take you directly to the page for buying AUDIOSCOPE tickets on oxfordmusic.net's new website for gig tickets. You can order tickets from here right up until the day of the gig itself, since all you'll need to bring along is a print-out of your confirmation e-mail to get in. There will be passouts on the day, which will allow you to leave the venue and come back in at any point during the day until 8.30pm, when you'll need to be back inside. Everyone at AUDIOSCOPE will also get a programme, which (amongst other things) will contain the stage times for each band so you can make sure you don't miss your favourites. ----------------------- AUDIOSCOPE in the news As well as last week's radio interviews, AUDIOSCOPE also features in this month's issue of The Wire, in which the day is recommended as a special event. This month's edition of the Oxford music magazine Nightshift also contains details of the AUDIOSCOPE compilation CD as well as a preview of the day as 'a chance to experience the songs they don't play on the radio and maybe discover something new and strange to love' as well as 'an admirable showcase of some of the best leftfield musical talents from Oxford and around the country.' ------------------------ For those of you new to the mailing list, the lineup is confirmed as follows: * Pram (http://www.dominorecordco.com) * Nought (http://www.noughtmusic.com) * Appliance (http://www.appliance-music.com) * eeebleee (http://www.eeebleee.com) * Cat On Form (http://www.diskant.net/catonform) * Fighting Red Adair (http://www.diskant.net/newbands/fra.htm) * Souvaris (http://www.souvaris.com) * Dustball (http://www.dustball.co.uk) * Sunnyvale Noise Sub-element (http://www.sunnyvalenoisesubelement.co.uk) More information about all of the bands is available at http://www.audioscope.co.uk, or at their own websites. Until next time, hope to see you next weekend, AUDIOSCOPE -------- Further information Shelter: http://www.shelter.org.uk AUDIOSCOPE: http://www.audioscope.co.uk The Zodiac: http://www.the-zodiac.co.uk Ticket sales: http://www.oxfordmusic.net diskant: http://www.diskant.net/zine ===== vacuous pop recordings: vpop01: cat on form, debut ep, 'a butterfly kiss the tar of a thousand births' available now vpop02: dustball, 'name & number', available september http://www.vacuouspop.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com