From ivanix@... Sat Sep 2 04:59:42 2000 From: ivanix@... (ivan thomasz) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:59:42 +0800 Subject: Fw: Save "Zach's Trax" Campaign Message-ID: <015201c0148a$6e7cf820$1c9b75cb@default> Dear John, You might not remember me, but I used to write you postcards asking you to play records by Singaporean bands such as the Padres on your show. I was also very thrilled when you granted my request to play "Shot by Both Sides" by Magazine as a dedication to the bands in the Singapore music scene back in 1991, I think. Now, I come to you with another request of a more serious nature. I would like to enlist your help in getting a local radio personality to get his recently cancelled show back on Singapore radio. The radio presenter I'm talking about is Paul Zach, an American journalist and radio show host who has been playing all sorts of wonderful music, regardless of genre (just like you) on his show called Zach's Trax, for the past nine years or so. You can imagine how appalled Zach's fans were, when the station concerned, Radio Heart, summarily cancelled his show without offering any satisfactory reasons to their listeners. I appeal to you now to help your fellow presenter continue with his vocation of informing and entertaining his listeners, by joining in our e-mail campaign to get Zach's Trax reinstated. The e-mail address of the Head of Programming at Radio Heart, Bernard Law, is lawcg@.... My letter to Mr. Law is attached. For the record, I was also one of those also appealed to the BBC to retain your esteemed colleague Andy Kershaw. Good on all his fans who fought to have him back at the Beeb! Thank you very much for your time and all the best to you and your colleagues at the BBC. Regards, Ivan Thomasz P.S. Any member of the Peel list at egroups is more than welcome to join in this campaign. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:20 PM Subject: Cancellation of Zach's Trax > Dear Mr. Bernard Law, > > It was with great disappointment that I received the news that NTUC radio has decided to cancel Paul Zach's groundbreaking music show, Zach's Trax, after more than nine years of serving his faithful fans through NTUC Radio Heart. > > It is even more disheartening because NTUC Radio has not even offered any satisfactory reasons why Zach's exceptionally entertaining and informative program was cancelled. This cancellation of the outstanding service Paul Zach has rendered to his audience through his show, goes against the very promises of NTUC Radio's mission statement, which is: > > "To be a good corporate citizen, which the NTUC family is renowned for, towards public, community and social projects." > > I fail to understand how the controllers of NTUC Radio could be so blind to the fact that Zach's Trax more than fulfilled NTUC Radio Heart's promotional statement: > > "NTUC Radio Heart is an infotainment station. Listeners hear what's in, what's hot and what's happening in and around Singapore." (both quotes from the Radio Heart website), > > Because if NTUC Radio is truly committed to serving its listening public, it wouldn't even consider cancelling Zach's Trax. After all, don't the loyal fans of Zach's Trax count as Heart's public that it's supposed to serve as a "good corporate citizen"? What is more, doesn't Zach's show introduce listeners to "what's in, what's hot and what's happening in and around Singapore" where music is concerned? If the hottest alternative music from Singapore and America, or music from Cuba, that Zach's Trax features, isn't something that's happening in, and around or outside of Singapore, then I don't know what is. > > If anything, far from having his show cancelled, Paul Zach deserves to receive some tangible award for outstanding services rendered to NTUC Radio Heart and its listening public from the controllers of Radio Heart. > > I, and many other faithful fans of Zach's Trax, do sincerely hope that you and the rest of the management of Radio Heart will seriously reconsider your decision to cancel Zach's Trax and reinstate the show with Zach in charge, sometime very soon. > > At the very least, such a positive action on Radio Heart's part will please a minority of your listeners, no doubt. But you can't deny that we, the minority, still count as an important part of the public that you're supposed to serve. > > Yours sincerely, > > A most disappointed Radio Heart listener, > > Ivan Thomasz > > "You can't fool the children of the revolution." - Marc Bolan. > > _________________________________________________ > The simple way to read all your emails at ThatWeb > http://www.thatweb.com > From stuff1424@... Sun Sep 3 23:45:02 2000 From: stuff1424@... (stuff1424@...) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:45:02 EDT Subject: Recent Hefner + Clinic Peel Sessions Message-ID: <35.9c79a98.26e4205e@...> Hi all, Am I right in thinking lots of people on this list tape loads of Peel sessions like myself? I'm looking for the following parts of sessions that I recently missed. Please, if anyone taped these sessions let me know! I'm looking for the first song from Clinics recent session ( the song was 'The Bridge'). Also i'm after the first 3 songs from the recent Hefner live session at Maida Vale. I taped the rest of their set but missed these first 3 songs. I thought the AndYouWillKnowUsByTheTrailOfTheDead and Melt Banana live sessions were amazing. The Rothko one coming up should also be rather special. Richard. From nburling@... Wed Sep 6 13:42:40 2000 From: nburling@... (Neil Burling) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:42:40 -0000 Subject: Cinerama session - 2/9/99 Message-ID: <8p5ajg+37s4@...> Hi, anyone have a copy of this session (live set recorded at Maida Vale to celebrate John's 60th) they've like to trade? cheers Neil From edblackmore@... Sat Sep 9 21:49:17 2000 From: edblackmore@... (Ed Blackmore) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:49:17 +0000 Subject: [peel] Recent Hefner + Clinic Peel Sessions Message-ID: > Am I right in thinking lots of people on this list tape loads of Peel > sessions like myself? I'm looking for the following parts of sessions that I > recently missed. Please, if anyone taped these sessions let me know! > I'm looking for the first song from Clinics recent session ( the song was > 'The Bridge'). > Also i'm after the first 3 songs from the recent Hefner live session at Maida > Vale. I taped the rest of their set but missed these first 3 songs. Hi Richard, I tape nearly all Peel shows on my computer, seperate out the sessions I particularly like and compress them into mp3 format. I could send you the Hefner tracks in mp3 or audio CD format, but the Clinic show only as part of a 2 hour mp3 file. I'd be happy to help you but most likely someone else will have recorded them on tape. All the best, Ed ================================================= Ed Blackmore, 2nd Year Computation UMIST ================================================= My Radiohead site - 'D.A.T.A. [for a fan]': http://website.lineone.net/~dataforafan/ From gforsyth@... Sun Sep 10 18:36:27 2000 From: gforsyth@... (George Forsyth) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:36:27 +0100 Subject: Neko Case Message-ID: <003701c01b45$44c49080$3734893e@oemcomputer> Neko Case is playing at the 13th Note Club, Clyde Street, Glasgow, tonight. Go along if you're at a loose end. I missed all Peel's shows last week. Who were in session? Sod's law dictates that the Neko Case sesion was broadcast! George Forsyth From kimhl@... Sun Sep 10 21:25:09 2000 From: kimhl@... (Kim Harrison-Lavoie) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:25:09 +0000 Subject: [peel] Neko Case In-Reply-To: <003701c01b45$44c49080$3734893e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: I think it is this Wednesday (?) live from Maida Vale. I saw her at the Union Chapel here in London on Friday and she was excellent. So were the Handsome Family. On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:36:27 +0100 George Forsyth wrote: > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 > seconds! Get rates of 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Ongoing APR* and > no annual fee! Apply NOW! > http://click.egroups.com/1/9146/3/_/522767/_/968603667/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > > Neko Case is playing at the 13th Note Club, Clyde Street, > Glasgow, tonight. Go along if you're at a loose end. > I missed all Peel's shows last week. Who were in > session? Sod's law dictates that the Neko Case sesion was > broadcast! George Forsyth > > > > ---------------------- Kim Harrison-Lavoie kimhl@... From onlineresearch2000@... Mon Sep 11 00:42:40 2000 From: onlineresearch2000@... (onlineresearch2000@...) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:42:40 -0000 Subject: Academic Survey Message-ID: <8ph2p0+drua@...> Dear fellow members, I am conducting an academic survey on mobile/wireless financial services as part of my postgraduate dissertation. Already, more than 300 people have taken part in my survey. However, in order to construct a meaningful marketing model I really need more people's support. I would be grateful if you could kindly help me by completing the questionnaire below and return it back to me at onlineresearch2000@... before Thur 14 Sept. 2000. A summary of findings from the survey will be sent later to those who have taken part. If you are not interested, please simply ignore this message and I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused. Best regards, Anthony Winter *********************************** Questionnaire *********************************** (1) Do you have a mobile phone/device ? ( )Yes ( )No If Yes, go to Question (2). If No , go to Question (4). (2) How many and what types of mobile phone/device do you have ? (1, 2 or 3) Mobile Phone (1, 2 or 3) WAP Mobile Phone (1, 2 or 3) PDA/Handheld (1, 2 or 3) Portable PC Others ________________ (3) How long have you been using your mobile phone/device ? ( )less than 6 months ( )less than 1 year ( )less than 1 and a half year ( )less than 2 years ( )less than 2 and a half year ( )less than 3 years ( )less than 3 and a half year ( )less than 4 years. ( )more than 4 years. (4) How many bank accounts do you have at present ? ( )none ( )one ( )two ( )three ( )four ( )Others_____________ (5) How many banks/companies do you prefer to handle all your banking/financial services/products ? ( )one ( )two ( )three ( )four ( )five (6) Which of the following banking channels do you use on a regular basis ? ( )High street branches ( )ATM / Cash point machines. ( )Phone banking ( )PC Internet/Home banking (with or without special software installed). ( )Mobile/wireless banking (with mobile phone/device). (7) How satisfied are you with your current banking channels ? High street branches -------------------- ( )Not satisfied at all. ( )Fairly satisfied. ( )Satisfied. ( )Very satisfied. ( )Extremely satisfied. ATM / Cash point machines ------------------------- ( )Not satisfied at all. ( )Fairly satisfied. ( )Satisfied. ( )Very satisfied. ( )Extremely satisfied. Phone banking ------------- ( )Not satisfied at all. ( )Fairly satisfied. ( )Satisfied. ( )Very satisfied. ( )Extremely satisfied. PC Internet/Home banking ------------------------ ( )Not satisfied at all. ( )Fairly satisfied. ( )Satisfied. ( )Very satisfied. ( )Extremely satisfied. Mobile/wireless banking ----------------------- ( )Not satisfied at all. ( )Fairly satisfied. ( )Satisfied. ( )Very satisfied. ( )Extremely satisfied. (8) Please rank the following banking channels according to your own preference. (1 = most preferred / 5 = least preferred) ( )High street branches ( )ATM / Cash point machines. ( )Phone banking ( )PC Internet/Home banking. ( )Mobile/wireless banking. (9) How important are multi-channels (eg. branch, ATM, phone, Internet) to you in banking ? ( )Not at all important. ( )Fairly important. ( )Important. ( )Very important. ( )Extremely important. (10) Are you a user of mobile banking services/products and how long have you been a user ? ( )not a user. ( )less than 6 months ( )less than 1 year ( )less than 1 and a half year ( )less than 2 years ( )less than 2 and a half year ( )less than 3 years ( )less than 3 and a half year ( )less than 4 years ( )more than 4 years. (11) If you are NOT using mobile/wireless banking services/products at present, which of the following are the factors/reasons ? (you can choose more than one) ( )Happy with current banking channels. ( )No need for "anytime" banking transactions/functions. ( )No need for "anywhere" banking transactions/functions. ( )No need for immediate banking transactions/functions. ( )Poor navigation/control/usability of mobile phone/device. ( )Mobile/wireless banking is Not available or not sure it is available where I live/bank. ( )Mobile/wireless banking is Not well developed where I live/bank. ( )Don't like some features of mobile phone/device (eg. colours, weight & design). ( )Don't like mobile phone/device at all. ( )Don't trust mobile phone/device in mobile/wireless banking environment. ( )Poor transmission coverage by mobile phone/device. ( )Possible health risk. ( )Bad/negative coverage and publicity in the media (eg. TV, radio, press). ( )Lack of human spontaneous/face-to-face interaction with bank staff. ( )No time to consider/investigate mobile/wireless banking yet. ( )Don't want to rush into mobile banking yet. ( )Concern about this new technology outside mainstream banking channels. ( )High cost of mobile device. ( )High cost of dial-up connection/transmission. ( )High bank charges. ( )Too complicated to operate mobile banking transactions. ( )Screen size of mobile device is too small. ( )Mobile device's screen is only "black & white" (2 colours only). ( )Mobile device is too heavy in weight. ( )Too difficult to type text/message on mobile device. ( )Mobile device can NOT access the Internet. ( )Too difficult to navigate the Internet with mobile phone/device. ( )Concern about Security/privacy/confidentiality of personal information and transactions. ( )Concern about Accuracy of transactions. ( )Concern about quality of call reception/connection. ( )Concern about speed of transactions. ( )Local bank branches are NOT far away. ( )Others__________________. (12) How much do you know about mobile/wireless banking ? ( )Never heard of it before. ( )I have heard about it but don't know how it works. ( )I know how it works and its benefits. (13) Is mobile/wirelss banking available where you live/bank ? ( )Yes ( )No ( )Don't know (14) Is mobile/wireless banking well developed where you live/bank ? ( )Yes ( )No ( )Don't know (15) Do you know how to open/start an account of mobile banking ? ( )Yes ( )No (16) Do you believe subscribing financial services/products on a mobile/wireless channel would help you ( )save time. ( )save money. ( )save time and money. ( )none of the above (17) Do you think the mobile/wireless channel will be ( )an addition to your current banking channels. ( )a replacement for your current banking channels. (18) How important is Security/Privacy/Confidentiality of transactions and customer information to you in mobile/wireless banking environment ? ( )Not at all important. ( )Fairly important. ( )Important. ( )Very important. ( )Extremely important. (19) How important is the quality of financial services/products offered to you in mobile/wireless banking ? ( )Not at all important. ( )Fairly important. ( )Important. ( )Very important. ( )Extremely important. (20) What types of banking/financial services/products would you like to access or use on mobile channel ? ( )Tracking Account Balances ( )Cheque Book Ordering ( )Making Money Transfer Within Same Bank ( )Making Money Transfer With Other Banks ( )Tracking Transfers ( )Paying Bills ( )Tracking Payments ( )Buying/Selling of Shares ( )Stock Alerts/Quotes ( )Foreign Currency Dealing ( )Life Insurance ( )House Insurance ( )Car Insurance ( )Travel Insurance ( )Credit Card Account Management ( )Credit Card Transactions ( )Financial Advice ( )Financial News Updates and Graphs ( )Home Mortgage ( )Pension ( )Personal Loan ( )Business Loan ( )Unit Trust ( )Mutual Funds ( )Asset Management ( )Others_____________ (21) Which of the following factors/issues would (did) you consider important when choosing a bank/company of mobile/wireless banking services/products ? (you can choose more than one) ( )How easy/difficult to operate mobile/wireless banking by yourself. ( )Screen size of mobile device. ( )Multi-colours of display on mobile device's screen. ( )Weight of mobile device. ( )Colour of mobile device. ( )Cost of mobile device. ( )Cost of dial-up connection/transmission. ( )Bank charges. ( )How easy/difficult to type text/message on mobile device. ( )Access to the Internet with mobile device. ( )How easy/difficult to navigate the Internet. ( )Security/privacy/confidentiality of personal information and transactions. ( )Accuracy of transactions. ( )Quality of call reception/connection. ( )Speed of transactions. ( )Lack of human/face-to-face/spontaneous interaction. ( )Reputation of the supplying bank/company. ( )Immediate access by mobile phone/device. ( )Distance of local bank branches. ( )Others________________. (22) What features would you like to use when making banking transactions on your mobile device ? ( )Text. ( )Sound. ( )Graphic. ( )Animation. ( )Always-on (continuous) connection. ( )Others_______________ (23) You are ( )Male ( )Female (24) Your age is ( )Under 18 ( )18 to 25 ( )26 to 35 ( )36 to 45 ( )46 to 55 ( )56 to 65 ( )Above 65 (25) Your education level is ( )Primary School education ( )Secondary School education ( )College/further education ( )Bachelor degree ( )Master degree ( )Doctoral degree ( )Others__________________ (26) Your profession is ( )Academic/Educator ( )Consultant/Analyst ( )Engineering ( )Finance/Investment/Share Dealing ( )Homemaker ( )HR/Training ( )IS/System Development ( )PR/Communications/Advertising ( )Professional (doctors, lawyers, etc) ( )Retired ( )Sales/Marketing ( )Self-employed/Own Company ( )Service/Customer Service ( )Student ( )Others_____________________________ (27) Household income per year. ( )Less than £ 5,000 ( )£ 5,000 to £ 10,000 ( )£ 10,000 to £ 20,000 ( )£ 20,000 to £ 30,000 ( )£ 30,000 to £ 40,000 ( )£ 40,000 to £ 50,000 ( )£ 50,000 to £ 60,000 ( )£ 60,000 to £ 70,000 ( )£ 70,000 to £ 80,000 ( )Above £ 80,000 (28) What "other" services/products would you like your bank/financial company to offer you on a "mobile channel" ? ( )None ( )CDs/Records ( )Books ( )Travel ( )Video/CD Rom ( )Grocery ( )Computer and Games ( )Apparel ( )Consumer Electronics ( )Tickets ( )Alcoholic Drinks ( )Home & Garden Goods ( )Flowers ( )Toys ( )Others___________________ (29) Country of residence ? __________________________ (30) Any other comments ? __________________________ ***************************************** END ***************************************** Please send the completed questionnaire to me at onlineresearch2000@... before Thur 14 Sept. 2000. Many thanks ! From c.lane@... Mon Sep 11 09:54:29 2000 From: c.lane@... (Chris Lane) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:54:29 +0100 Subject: [peel] Academic Survey Message-ID: > If you are not interested, please simply ignore this message and I > sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused. Maybe I could interest you in a survey about how pissed off people get with spammers? From djhc2@... Mon Sep 11 15:46:53 2000 From: djhc2@... (djhc2@...) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:46:53 +0100 Subject: Academic Survey Message-ID: No subject. No dissertation title. No institution name. No ac.uk or edu e-mail address. Piss off. From les_miller@... Mon Sep 11 20:03:00 2000 From: les_miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:03:00 +0100 Subject: Moonlighters Message-ID: <80256957.00629CD9.00@...> For anyone who wants a copy of the Moonlighters CD 'Dreamland', CDQuest (http://www.cdquest.com) have some at $13.99 (shipping is $5.99). Can't verify the service as I haven't used them before. From martinw@... Mon Sep 11 22:35:12 2000 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:35:12 +0100 Subject: Neko Case Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000911213443.00a97bd0@...> George Forsyth wrote >Who were in session? > Sod's law dictates that the Neko Case sesion was > broadcast! This week's Peel sessions are Tues : Delgados (repeat) (show starting late because of the Mercury Music Prize) Wed : Neko Case From Maida Vale Thurs : Trembling Blue Stars Join the Zapsmart list to be sent details of the following weeks sessions Subscribe by sending an e-mail to zapsmart-subscribe@onelist.com martinw From gforsyth@... Tue Sep 12 23:26:45 2000 From: gforsyth@... (George Forsyth) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:26:45 +0100 Subject: tonight's show Message-ID: <000601c01d00$27ae1720$8a2c883e@oemcomputer> Radio 1, catch yourself on. I'm expecting records at the wrong speed, miscued tracks, chat about his family, humiliating Anita-the-producer. And some God-awful "dance" music. Not this fill-in. It's enough to give me a strapadichtomy. GForsyth From mozy@... Wed Sep 13 00:10:43 2000 From: mozy@... (Maureen) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:10:43 +0100 Subject: [peel] tonight's show References: <000601c01d00$27ae1720$8a2c883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <39BEA9E3.68114368@...> George Forsyth wrote: > Radio 1, catch yourself on. I'm expecting records at the wrong > speed, miscued tracks, chat about his family, humiliating > Anita-the-producer. And some God-awful "dance" music. > Not this fill-in. > It's enough to give me a strapadichtomy. > Oh bums. It's Tuesday isn't it? Have they bumped the cuddly one off for the blooming Mercury thingy? Maureen From John.Clare@... Wed Sep 13 14:33:25 2000 From: John.Clare@... (John.Clare@...) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:33:25 +0100 Subject: Put me out of my misery Message-ID: <80256959.0044FB22.00@...> Slighty off-topic, but not too much, I hope. Did anyone see that British Murders TV programme last night (UK)? The incidental music was something I recognised, I know I've got it somehwere but just can't place it! Sounds like either Yellow 6, Slowdive (Pygmalion) or something similar! Regards, Dougal From Stuart@... Wed Sep 13 20:28:55 2000 From: Stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:28:55 +0100 Subject: Mercury/BDB In-Reply-To: <968767823.13663@egroups.com> Message-ID: I was curious about Tuesday's show - John was understandably pissed off at the time that was eaten from his own programme by the Mercyry/Technics award, but what was that about Badly Drawn Boy refusing to do a Peel session? At least, that was the impression I got. Personally I don't think his album's woprthy of the award - too much scrapy filler, too long - but I would say that, wouldn't I? Stuart From edblackmore@... Thu Sep 14 00:42:30 2000 From: edblackmore@... (Ed Blackmore) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:42:30 +0000 Subject: mercury music prize Message-ID: i didn't understand why they didn't just get john to broadcast the result. it would have been a lot easier. it wasn't really worth the wait for a twenty second speech. Ed ================================================= Ed Blackmore, 2nd Year Computation UMIST ================================================= My Radiohead site - 'D.A.T.A. [for a fan]': http://website.lineone.net/~dataforafan/ From netpeter@... Fri Sep 22 16:08:54 2000 From: netpeter@... (netpeter ) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:08:54 -0000 Subject: 60s 70s early 80s Peel Message-ID: <8qfp5m+eetu@...> Hi everyone, I've just got back into John Peel the last 3 years, after listenting to him in the mid 80s . I think his shows are better now, or rather more entertaining eg "the puppy's just crapped on the studio floor" on last night's show. I was just wondering what his shows sounded like between the 60s and mid 80s. Does anyone have any tapes (either cassette or reel to reel) of his shows from that time they could send or copy for me? Cheers Peter From keith@... Fri Sep 22 16:13:36 2000 From: keith@... (.Keith Hawley) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:13:36 +0100 Subject: [peel] 60s 70s early 80s Peel In-Reply-To: <8qfp5m+eetu@...> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000922150916.00c5e650@...> >I think his shows are better now, or rather more entertaining eg "the >puppy's just crapped on the studio floor" on last night's show. my impression (from various snippets played during documentaries etc.) was that his tone was much more serious and earnest in the seventies... probably reflecting a view of, say, prog-rock that was much more strokybeardy... took it much more seriously... so, i suspect he is far more laid back and jokey than he used to be. i'm too young to know for sure thought... i'd also be keen to hear tapes if anyone has this sort of thing. - keith hawley e: keith@... fax: 0870-7058333 From john.bravin@... Fri Sep 22 23:35:46 2000 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:35:46 +0200 Subject: [peel] 60s 70s early 80s Peel Message-ID: <00d701c024dd$12a13120$d89582c3@...> I've listened since 1967 and there is no doubt he has changed style. The early years were more earnest, with the 'music is the message' being the approach. I have some tapes from the 60s, but rarely does he say anything other than the artist and title. This style was epitomised by the late Alexis Korner who used to give record label, record number and list the musicians for each track played. There were some flashes of excitement: the day Peel played Midnight Rambler by the Stones from Get Yer Ya Yas Out. I happened to have the recorder running, and he was clearly thrilled by the unlabelled vinyl which was clearly the Stones. In those the pedigree of musicians seemed endless (cf Pete Frames(?) rock family trees. Peel was always the first to play the new line-ups, and spin-off bands (Fairports/Steeleye/Fotheringay). Live he was also pretty laid back (stoned), but with bands like Principal Edward's Magic Theatre it was hard to get excited. Despite the apparent serious approach, much of what he was doing was revolutionary. Playing whole LPs (no copyright in the early days), first play of the Beatle's Hey Jude as a single that blew away the 3 minute formula. Playing Eric Clapton & the Yardbirds and then the original blues artists that influenced Clapton. Providing an outlet for Roy Harper who then used it to give a tirade against the BBC, and what it stood for. (incidentally Roy Harper played London last week, and he's still a moody bugger). The first real on-radio excitement came with Rod Stewart and the Faces. >From then on Peel as friend of the band was common, and this has continued today with the Fall and Wedding Present etc. The 70s featured some pretty dire music until 1976/77 so Peel's enthusiasm was limited. Of course the dry humour has always been there. His radio documentaries for the radio were always well crafted and amusing (if verging on the pretentious ("clean cut college students wearing button down madras shirts and snappy slacks were aware as a result of buying Peter, Paul and Mary LPs that somewhere there was an artist writing songs by the name of Bob Dylan"). The cult of the presenter at Radio 1 also led to some of the changes. I remember Peel wetting himself with excitement with Kid Jensen when Liverpool won the European Cup. He followed this by the Kop Choir and the Mighty Wah. It's ironic isn't it that in his youth he was deadly serious, and now in his 60's his shows are entertainment in their own right. -- John Bravin Hours of early tapes, but poor quality, with most of the Peel intros edited out. Still priceless though! -----Original Message----- From: .Keith Hawley To: peel@egroups.com Date: 22 September 2000 16:15 Subject: Re: [peel] 60s 70s early 80s Peel >my impression (from various snippets played during documentaries etc.) >was that his tone was much more serious and earnest in the seventies... >probably reflecting a view of, say, prog-rock that was much more >strokybeardy... took it much more seriously... > >so, i suspect he is far more laid back and jokey than he used to be. > > >i'm too young to know for sure thought... > >i'd also be keen to hear tapes if anyone has this sort of thing. > > > > >- keith hawley > >e: keith@... >fax: 0870-7058333 > > > > From netpeter@... Thu Sep 28 10:31:32 2000 From: netpeter@... (netpeter ) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:31:32 -0000 Subject: 60s 70s early 80s Peel In-Reply-To: <00d701c024dd$12a13120$d89582c3@...> Message-ID: <8quvl4+d1o5@...> Thanks John, What an informative piece of writing ! It amazes me to think that someone has been listening to him from the beginning, throuought the show's many variations – I wonder how many of you are out there and wether the great man himself knows. I would be very interested to hear examples of the early shows; perhaps you could get in touch with me at netpeter@... and arrange something ? Cheers Peter --- In peel@egroups.com, "John Bravin" wrote: > I've listened since 1967 and there is no doubt he has changed style. > The early years were more earnest, with the 'music is the message' > being the approach. I have some tapes from the 60s, but rarely does > he say anything other than the artist and title. This style was > epitomised > by the late Alexis Korner who used to give record label, record number > and list the musicians for each track played. There were some flashes > of excitement: the day Peel played Midnight Rambler by the Stones from > Get Yer Ya Yas Out. I happened to have the recorder running, and he > was clearly thrilled by the unlabelled vinyl which was clearly the > Stones. > In those the pedigree of musicians seemed endless (cf Pete Frames(?) > rock family trees. Peel was always the first to play the new line- ups, > and > spin-off bands (Fairports/Steeleye/Fotheringay). Live he was also > pretty laid back (stoned), but with bands like Principal Edward's Magic > Theatre it was hard to get excited. > > Despite the apparent serious approach, much of what he was doing > was revolutionary. Playing whole LPs (no copyright in the early days), > first play of the Beatle's Hey Jude as a single that blew away the 3 > minute > formula. Playing Eric Clapton & the Yardbirds and then the original > blues artists that influenced Clapton. Providing an outlet for Roy > Harper > who then used it to give a tirade against the BBC, and what it stood > for. > (incidentally Roy Harper played London last week, and he's still a moody > bugger). > > The first real on-radio excitement came with Rod Stewart and the Faces. > From then on Peel as friend of the band was common, and this has > continued today with the Fall and Wedding Present etc. > > The 70s featured some pretty dire music until 1976/77 so Peel's > enthusiasm > was limited. Of course the dry humour has always been there. His radio > documentaries for the radio were always well crafted and amusing (if > verging > on the pretentious ("clean cut college students wearing button down > madras shirts and snappy slacks were aware as a result of buying > Peter, Paul and Mary LPs that somewhere there was an artist writing > songs by the name of Bob Dylan"). > > The cult of the presenter at Radio 1 also led to some of the changes. > I remember Peel wetting himself with excitement with Kid Jensen when > Liverpool won the European Cup. He followed this by the Kop Choir > and the Mighty Wah. > > It's ironic isn't it that in his youth he was deadly serious, and now in > his > 60's his shows are entertainment in their own right. > > -- > John Bravin > Hours of early tapes, but poor quality, with most of the Peel intros > edited out. > Still priceless though! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: .Keith Hawley > To: peel@egroups.com > Date: 22 September 2000 16:15 > Subject: Re: [peel] 60s 70s early 80s Peel > > >my impression (from various snippets played during documentaries etc.) > >was that his tone was much more serious and earnest in the seventies... > >probably reflecting a view of, say, prog-rock that was much more > >strokybeardy... took it much more seriously... > > > >so, i suspect he is far more laid back and jokey than he used to be. > > > > > >i'm too young to know for sure thought... > > > >i'd also be keen to hear tapes if anyone has this sort of thing. > > > > > > > > > >- keith hawley > > > >e: keith@p... > >fax: 0870-7058333 > > > > > > > > From andy.smith@... Thu Sep 28 11:53:24 2000 From: andy.smith@... (Andy Smith) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:53:24 GMT Subject: [peel] Digest Number 283 Message-ID: <200009280953.JAA0000064867@...> Stuart wrote (a long time ago): > what was that about Badly Drawn Boy refusing to do a Peel > session? At least, that was the impression I got. He's made a few comments over the last year or so about BDB apparently not wanting anything to do with the show any more, but that he'll keep playing the records. > Personally I don't think his album's woprthy of the award - too much > scrapy filler, too long - but I would say that, wouldn't I? I agree, but I've finally been persuaded to buy it and there are some great songs. A bit of editing would have made it a superb album. John Peel playing Radiohead? Is this a first? Andy From netpeter@... Thu Sep 28 12:44:19 2000 From: netpeter@... (netpeter ) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:44:19 -0000 Subject: Digest Number 283 In-Reply-To: <200009280953.JAA0000064867@...> Message-ID: <8qv7e3+5ddg@...> Glad Peel played the new Radiohead -sounded great. Just because a band is "mainstream" doesn't mean necessarily bad - but its a good general rule though ! Seeing Radiohead for the first time to-morrow in concert & will let you know what they're like Peter --- In peel@egroups.com, Andy Smith wrote: > Stuart wrote (a long time ago): > > > what was that about Badly Drawn Boy refusing to do a Peel > > session? At least, that was the impression I got. > > He's made a few comments over the last year or so about BDB apparently not > wanting anything to do with the show any more, but that he'll keep > playing the records. > > > Personally I don't think his album's woprthy of the award - too much > > scrapy filler, too long - but I would say that, wouldn't I? > > I agree, but I've finally been persuaded to buy it and there are some > great songs. A bit of editing would have made it a superb album. > > John Peel playing Radiohead? Is this a first? > > Andy From martinw@... Fri Sep 29 00:33:40 2000 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:33:40 +0100 Subject: Alarm Clocks On Boys And Girls Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000928233326.00a9d880@...> Next Thursday Peel is preempted for a 4 hour Lamacq live However he is still on starting at Midnight with Dick Dale in session martinw From martinw@... Fri Sep 29 18:56:00 2000 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:56:00 +0100 Subject: 60s 70s early 80s Peel Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000929175538.00aa7ca0@...> Peter asks >It amazes me to think that someone has been listening to him from >the beginning, throuought the show's many variations – I >wonder how >many of you are out there and wether the great man himself knows. I'm one of the original 'under the bedclothes' Perfumed Garden listeners from pirate ship days! There are still one or two of us about. martinw From john.bravin@... Fri Sep 29 21:51:18 2000 From: john.bravin@... (John Bravin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:51:18 +0200 Subject: [peel] Re: 60s 70s early 80s Peel Message-ID: <005901c02a4e$a2c1cf00$9e9082c3@...> This is pure nostalgia for the oldies. If you want to recall the early festivals Peel compered at, take a look at http://www.rockmusicposters.com/seeposters.htm I can remember most of the 1969 Bath Festival including Stan Webb of Chicken Shack being pelted from the audience, only to respond with the immortal line, 'Will the c***s who are throwing chicken bones f**k off'. Made a big impression on a young teenager. The complete line-up was (Capitals on as this is a cut and paste from the website). FLEETWOOD MAC, JOHN MAYALL, TEN YEAR'S AFTER, LED ZEPPELIN, NICE, CHICKEN SHACK, JOHN HISEMAN'S COLOSSEUM, BLODWYN PIG, KEEF HARTLEY, GROUP THERAPY, LIVERPOOL SCENE, TASTE FEATURING RORY GALLAGHER, CHAMPION JACK DUPREE, SAVOY BROWN, CLOUDS, PRINCIPAL EDWARD'S MAGIC THEATRE, BABYLON, DEEP BLUES BAND, JUST BEFORE DAWN AND D.J. JOHN PEEL -- John Bravin From martinw@... Sat Sep 30 01:50:31 2000 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:50:31 +0100 Subject: Just What Is It With Hefner Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000930005013.00a96860@...> According to my calculations since march 99 there have been 5 Peel sessions of differing sorts by Hefner and in a couple of weeks there is yet another coming They are not cutting edge and they get plenty of daytime and early evening airplay (they have done 2 Lamacq sessions and been on every local station known to man in the same time period) Can someone please explain to me just why this band whose sound is much more Lamacq than Peel get such huge coverage from Peel when many other deserving bands are lucky to get one session every couple of years martinw From festive50@... Sat Sep 30 02:22:39 2000 From: festive50@... (festive50@...) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:22:39 -0000 Subject: 60s 70s early 80s Peel In-Reply-To: <005901c02a4e$a2c1cf00$9e9082c3@...> Message-ID: <8r3bof+2g5o@...> --- In peel@egroups.com, "John Bravin" wrote: > This is pure nostalgia for the oldies. > If you want to recall the early festivals Peel compered at, > take a look at > http://www.rockmusicposters.com/seeposters.htm > I can remember most of the 1969 Bath Festival > including Stan Webb of Chicken Shack being pelted > from the audience, only to respond with the immortal line, > 'Will the c***s who are throwing chicken bones f**k off'. > Made a big impression on a young teenager. > Thanks for that URL John. I went to the site and found poster for the Bath Festival the following year(1970), which I went to. Which has prompted these ramblings of an ageing hippy(it has a loose connection with Peely, in that a friend I was with, claimed to have stood behind "yer man" in a queue for some kind of macrobiotic rice dish). I must confess to not remembering him compering the event. What I do remember though is arriving at this field in Shepton Mallet in the pissing rain, with a sleeping bag but no tent. The night before a friend had arranged a lift for me with a friend of his, whose father was driving him down, his friend turned out to be the late Malcolm Owen of The Ruts. We didn't have tickets but the guys on the gate were selling used tickets for 50p.(a lot of dosh in those days).The line up as you see from the site was predominantly U.S. West coast bands. Notable exceptions were the opening act Maynard Ferguson's Big Band(this was a Canadian mainstream Jazz band who prior to this festival was the studio band/orchestra for Michael Parkinson's early chat shows to this day I still don't know why he was on the bill). The 2nd act was Donovan on whose appearance the sun magically appeared. Pink Floyd appeared about midnight with a male Welsh voice choir and 1 of the earliest outside light shows, consisting of distress flares coming down on tiny parachutes and illuminating the entire festival site. I've still got the ticket and the price on it is 50/- (shillings = £2-50 to you younger readers). Also that year was the Hendrix I.O.W. festival, where also I didn't have a ticket and sat on the top of the downs overlooking the festival site awaiting the 1st appearance of E.L.P. They didn't come on stage till 2.00am, in the meantime I'd fallen asleep and awoke at the bottom of the downs several hours after they'd finished. However I did see Hendrix. Apologies again for these ramblings of an ageing hippy, however I've moved on and still regularly listen to Peely. From rockerq@... Sat Sep 30 16:24:22 2000 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:24:22 EDT Subject: [peel]Hefner Message-ID: <10.2ebd9d9.27075196@...> In a message dated 30/9/00 1:04:04 am, martinw@... writes: << Can someone please explain to me just why this band whose sound is much more Lamacq than Peel get such huge coverage from Peel when many other deserving bands are lucky to get one session every couple of years >> Basically because he likes them. If they'd do it, I'm sure the Fall would get five sessions a year (...maybe, when MES' royalties dry up). Looking forward to that new Fall LP, if it's as good as Peel says, should be a winner! PJHarvey for LP of the year, anyone? Cheers! Rocker, rockerq@... From Stuart@... Sat Sep 30 13:35:02 2000 From: Stuart@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:35:02 +0100 Subject: Radiohead on Peel Message-ID: >John Peel playing Radiohead? Is this a first? I'd say so, I remember a past Festive 50 where Creep was in there and he commented that it had never been played on the show. It's kinda funny (as someone once said), a guy at work saw Radiohead in their big tent last night, and was far from impressed since they're obviously doing loads of stuff from Kid A (lots of oldies too but it's a long set I think). I pointed out that Peel liked the album whereas he didn't think too much of the old stuff; we both saw this as a good barometer of their new material, and its popularity amongst their fans. Stuart