From troche@... Wed Aug 2 05:43:53 2000 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:43:53 -0400 Subject: 100+ In-Reply-To: <964866660.24892@egroups.com> Message-ID: At 6:31 AM -0400 7/29/0, "Phil Edwards" wrote: >I am in process of cataloguing my 500 odd Peel tapes including most >FF's from 1981. I just happened to come accross this session this >week. One day I hope to put it all up on the web. Maybe I could >arrange "swapsies". I have already provided 1 member with 15 tapes >of certain FF's. So watch this space. I have 100+, and I'd like to web archive them someday too. I raced out this weekend and got the Senor Coconut CD. (mariachi/cumbia Kraftwerk covers) Hilarious. tom From cwoodmansey@... Wed Aug 2 10:50:12 2000 From: cwoodmansey@... (Clare Woodmansey) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:50:12 +0100 Subject: [peel] 100+ Message-ID: <200008020858.e728wxV26124@...> > From: Tom Roche > I raced out this weekend and got the Senor Coconut CD. (mariachi/cumbia Kraftwerk covers) > > Hilarious. I love the part at the end of the spoken intro, where he counts the band into this clanking intro to Showroom Dummies. An excellent album and highly amusing to boot. Rob From andy.smith@... Thu Aug 3 11:05:24 2000 From: andy.smith@... (Andy Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:05:24 GMT Subject: Senor Coconut Message-ID: <200008030905.JAA0000015911@...> Tom: > I raced out this weekend and got the Senor Coconut CD. (mariachi/cumbia > Kraftwerk covers) I loved Tour de France and Autobahn. Is the rest of it up to that standard? Andy From cwoodmansey@... Thu Aug 3 18:59:40 2000 From: cwoodmansey@... (Clare Woodmansey) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:59:40 +0100 Subject: Blue Jam Message-ID: <200008031703.e73H3G525121@...> In the radio listings for tonight midnight - 1am Blue Jam I presume these are repeats? Anyone know for sure? Rob From edblackmore@... Sat Aug 5 00:59:50 2000 From: edblackmore@... (Ed Blackmore) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:59:50 +0000 Subject: [peel] Blue Jam Message-ID: > In the radio listings for tonight > midnight - 1am Blue Jam > I presume these are repeats? Anyone know for sure? there's another show listed for next week, I recorded last nights, i could post the 50MB mp3 file on the internet, or send tapes. Ed ================================================= Ed Blackmore, 2nd Year Computation UMIST ================================================= My Radiohead site - 'D.A.T.A. [for a fan]': http://website.lineone.net/~dataforafan/ From matt0050@... Mon Aug 7 22:19:47 2000 From: matt0050@... (matt0050@...) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:19:47 EDT Subject: licensing peel sessions.... Message-ID: <17.959e1dc.26c073e3@...> hello... first off let me introduce myself to the list my name is matt... i'm from philadelphia USA. i'm 22 and my current musical obsessions arent't very current at all but rather dated stuff from the C86 era i love the shop assistants, the primitives, and the 14 iced bears... among others. my question to those "in the know"... i would like to license a peel session or two for my label.. show and tell... here in the states. i'd like to release the skinned teen peel session from january of 94 (i beleive) as part of a full discog for that band... and i'd like to release the session golden starlet did in january of 95 as a 7"... i sent john peel an email about the skinned teen discog about 3 weeks ago and failed to garner a response.... woe is me is there someone i should be talking to about this other than john peel... he surely doesn''t handle this stuff all by his lonesome.... and i'm impatient and want to know what it's gonna take to get these fine records out. anywayz hello to you all and good day! luv, *matt! From kimhl@... Mon Aug 7 22:54:30 2000 From: kimhl@... (Kim Harrison-Lavoie) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:54:30 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: [peel] licensing peel sessions.... In-Reply-To: <17.959e1dc.26c073e3@...> Message-ID: I'm not really sure that I know the answer to this one, but I've always had the impression that the Peel sessions were owned or controlled by the bands who record them. Sometimes people will request repeats of certain Peel session tracks and I think I've heard JP reply that he can't just play them freely because it would involve royalty payments - I got the impression that the financial arrangements were rather complicated. Also, some bands have put out Peel session tracks as B-sides for singles, which has reinforced my idea that the bands own the rights. Have you contacted the bands in question and asked them? Is Crawford of Rothko fame on this list? They just recorded a session (can't wait to hear it!) so he might be able to help. On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:19:47 EDT matt0050@... wrote: > hello... first off let me introduce myself to the list > my name is matt... i'm from philadelphia USA. i'm 22 and my > current musical obsessions arent't very current at all but > rather dated stuff from the C86 era i love the shop > assistants, the primitives, and the 14 iced bears... among > others. > > my question to those "in the know"... i would like to > license a peel session or two for my label.. show and > tell... here in the states. i'd like to release the skinned > teen peel session from january of 94 (i beleive) as part of > a full discog for that band... and i'd like to release the > session golden starlet did in january of 95 as a 7"... > i sent john peel an email about the skinned teen discog > about 3 weeks ago and failed to garner a response.... woe > is me is there someone i should be talking to about this > other than john peel... he surely doesn''t handle this > stuff all by his lonesome.... and i'm impatient and want to > know what it's gonna take to get these fine records > out. anywayz hello to you all and good day! > luv, *matt! > > > > > ---------------------- Kim Harrison-Lavoie kimhl@... From robfleay@... Mon Aug 7 22:31:59 2000 From: robfleay@... (Robf) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:31:59 +0100 Subject: [peel] licensing peel sessions.... In-Reply-To: References: <17.959e1dc.26c073e3@...> Message-ID: <0c4fc2003210780DIAL4@...> > Also, some bands have put out Peel session tracks as > B-sides for singles, which has reinforced my idea that the > bands own the rights. Have you contacted the bands in > question and asked them? I vaguely remember when I did the Mark Radcliffe session - the engineer told us that a lot of bands bought the tapes for a nominal fee for use as b-sides etc. If this doesn't happen then the BBC must own the recordings - as they paid for them. ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From martinw@... Wed Aug 9 01:25:29 2000 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:25:29 +0100 Subject: licensing peel sessions.... Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000809002334.00a97ab0@...> >> Also, some bands have put out Peel session tracks as >> B-sides for singles, which has reinforced my idea that the >> bands own the rights. Have you contacted the bands in >> question and asked them? Rob Fleay wrote >I vaguely remember when I did the Mark Radcliffe session >- the engineer told us that a lot of bands bought the tapes >for a nominal fee for use as b-sides etc. If this doesn't >happen then the BBC must own the recordings - as they >paid for them. I think a key factor is whether the band was signed to a label at the time. If they are then the label controls whether the tracks can come out or not - the BBC of course have to be compensated for the production costs. Most US bands who did Peel sessions were probably sufficiently established to have a record contract of some sort If the band is not signed at the time then the rights are with the band - but not the band as an entity but each person who played on the session. Many prospective Strange Fruit reissues fell through because there were missing band members they could not find to get permission from. In many cases permission was no doubt a euphemism for being paid as well - making the whole thing uneconomic This is just the tip of the iceberg - the whole thing is a contractual can of worms as Clive Selwood discovered when he did the Strange Fruit reissues A problem Matt has is that the BBC probably wouldn't be interested in talking to anyone except the owner of the tracks. Anything else would probably be a breach of contract and leave them open to legal action. After all bands do these tracks in the expectation that they will only be for radio broadcast and the BBC can't just give away something that isn't their property. martinw From matt0050@... Wed Aug 9 02:07:33 2000 From: matt0050@... (matt0050@...) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:07:33 EDT Subject: [peel] Re: licensing peel sessions.... Message-ID: hello all... and thanks for all the input on this issue that seems a little bit more compilcated than i had hoped. >>Most US bands who did Peel sessions were probably sufficiently established to have a record contract of some sort<< actually both of the bands i was speaking of are UK bands. skinned teen were three 14 year old girls when they recorded their session and had records out on slampt and would release records on wiiija as well. layla gibbon from skinned teen is involved with the discog i'm trying to put together for her former band... and the remaining two members have authorized the release of the discog as well. layla told me herself that the release on wiija ("bazooka smooth") and the peel session they did are her favorites.... wiiija hasn't responded to my requests for licensing either. i suppose the next step would be to have layla try and contact these people herself. the other band i was speaking of was golden starlet who i beleive released all their material on slampt. the guy that released their discog here in the US left the peel session off because he didn't want to deal with any additional costs.... which is understandable because we're talking about punk bands here that never released a single note on a major label. i'm used to dealing with other artists or at least artist friendly labels and i don't even know where to start if i am to be dealing with th BBC. is there a specific division of the BBC that might handle these recordings or deal specifically with music? sorry i have so many questions.... and thanks for all the great insight. luv, matt From dodgefromgrange@... Wed Aug 9 03:27:13 2000 From: dodgefromgrange@... (dodgefromgrange@...) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 01:27:13 -0000 Subject: peel in america Message-ID: <8mqc1h+4mbk@...> >That would be from the Peel Out in the States shows that he did a few >years back. Each of the disks contains two half hour shows, I >believe. They were put on CDs and sent out to American radio stations >(community and college stations, mostly) for weekly broadcast >Unfortunately for us in the States, the series was short lived. The >sponsor pulled its backing after the first twenty-something shows, so >that's all the Peel we got to hear over our own airwaves. But if you >can find the disks, they're worth getting. Peel gives a nice cross >section of the kind of music that fills out his regular shows, in >this case a sampling of mid-90s fare if that's your bag. >-phred Thanks for this, I did indeed pick up the CD $3 still in it's plastic wrapper. A true treat for me while I'm stranded out here in the states Peel-less for the summer. The shows were done back in 1993 which is before I ever listened to him so it was interesting to hear that he still played German Hardcore, the Fall and various other fantastic bands I'd never heard of. Indeed it was nearly as good as seeing Peel fav, I say this in a loose sense that he played a few tracks by him, Bob Log III at the weekend the most amazing and wonderful one man show I have ever witnessed, part John Lee Hooker, part Alec Empire, part God I seem to of been thinking. Kevin. From troche@... Thu Aug 17 01:54:16 2000 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:54:16 -0400 Subject: Mucho Vinylo Message-ID: Found a quaint newspaper story about John that ran in the quaint Ipswitch Evening Times last year. Its at http://www.suffolk-now.co.uk/content/features/people/htm/peel1.htm in their ongoing feature series "The characters who make Suffolk special." Nothing much in there we didnt know except that John's vast record collection boasts around 25,680 LPs and 150,000 singles. I'm off to Nashville next week for some equipment training. Not sure what I'll find there - last time I went was 10 years ago and it seemed there was an equal number of churches, recording studios, and hair salons. I'll report back.... tom r atlanta From simon@... Thu Aug 17 23:01:05 2000 From: simon@... (simon b) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:01:05 -0700 Subject: [peel] Digest Number 271 In-Reply-To: <966515824.31484@egroups.com> Message-ID: Must share that yesterday, listening to Peel via Sky Digital, the onscreen info promised the exclusive session track "And You Will Know Us" by the Trial of the Dead (sic, of course) From d.mckinnon@... Thu Aug 17 17:23:03 2000 From: d.mckinnon@... (Dougal McKinnon) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:23:03 +0100 Subject: Peely - film star. In-Reply-To: References: <966515824.31484@egroups.com> Message-ID: For those who haven't seen it, this is from the BBC website:- 'Grumpy old man' role for Peel Broadcasting legend John Peel is to make his feature film debut - playing himself. Peel, a BBC Radio 1 DJ since the station's launch in 1967, appears in the film Five Seconds To Spare alongside Max Beesley, Ray Winstone and Sean Pertwee. Peel, who also presents Radio 4's award-winning show Home Truths, filmed the cameo role earlier this year. "I play a grumpy old man who spends his whole life filing records. How on earth they thought of me, I don't know," he remarked. Five Seconds To Spare is a thriller about a young musician who goes to London to further his career but becomes a witness to murder. "I was rather proud of it. The only other acting I have done was on The Archers," said Peel, referring to Radio 4's daily soap opera. "The film did appeal to me. I rather liked the idea of being in a retirement home, looking through the TV schedules and seeing it there in years to come," he added. Peel, typically self-effacing, admitted that his part was small: "I only had 57 words." Widely regarded a national institution, Peel received an OBE in 1998 and has been described by Prime Minister Tony Blair as a "radio legend". BBC Two celebrated the DJ's 60th birthday last year with an evening of programmes dedicated to his career. The film has not been released yet but a spokesman for the distributor, Winchester Films said they were hoping it would go into cinemas later this year. It's a moment Peel confessed he is eager to see: "I keep looking for it amongst each week's new films in the papers, but it's never there," he said. dougal mckinnon (d.mckinnon@...) From d.mckinnon@... Fri Aug 18 09:50:58 2000 From: d.mckinnon@... (Dougal McKinnon) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:50:58 +0100 Subject: Peely - film star. In-Reply-To: <399C1D42.72486BA9@...> References: <399C1D42.72486BA9@...> <966515824.31484@egroups.com> Message-ID: <200008180748.IAA24554@...> Message-ID: Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 5.1.1 Build (10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:13:38 +0100 Stig wrote: > > Hi Dougal, > > Can you tell me where that page is? I'll put it on my links page. Er, > just to save me finding it.. Yes, it's at http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid%5F883000/883367.stm dougal mckinnon (d.mckinnon@...) From kalk1@... Fri Aug 18 15:42:10 2000 From: kalk1@... (Dr Kerry Knight) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:42:10 +0100 Subject: Hefner References: <966515824.31484@egroups.com> Message-ID: <399D3D32.72BA15F3@...> I don't suppose anybody on this list is going to have a spare ticket for the Hefner session recording thing for next week are they? I'm really keen to go, but missed the competition on Tuesday. I was hoping for some more tickets to be given away last night, but alas it was not to be.. I'd pay handsomely (well a bag of sherbet lemons or something.....) Mail me at the above if so. Thanks, Kerry. From rockerq@... Fri Aug 18 20:27:02 2000 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:27:02 EDT Subject: [peel] Hefner Message-ID: In a message dated 18/8/00 2:41:48 pm, kalk1@... writes: << I'm really keen to go, but missed the competition on Tuesday. >> You mean you weren't listening live! Shame on you! Does this mean you have a life, or something? Cheers! Rocker, P.S. After a short hiatus I am back on this list with a new address, (as if anyone cared!) rockerq@... From rockerq@... Fri Aug 18 22:39:33 2000 From: rockerq@... (rockerq@...) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:39:33 EDT Subject: The Judge Message-ID: <34.9596d9e.26cef905@...> Found this quote attributed to "Judge Jules from Higate" on the Radio 1 website Ibiza pages, in response to "which Radio 1 DJ they would like to invite for dinner as their guests." "John Peel. He's seen waves and waves of generations of DJs come and go at Radio 1. Though I have met him once or twice I've always been really in awe of him. You just think that until you've been at Radio 1 for about 10 years there's no point in even approaching him because he'll just see you as one of those many waves of DJs that come in and out as he, the hardy perennial, stays there. Here's hoping I can discuss this theory with him one night." Nice to see some respect from the youngblood. And John, with Jules' vast income you should get quite a decent dinner out of him, a mushroom biriani at the very least! Have to add I just came back from a week in Ibiza, and Jules' set was a highlight. Was pissed off to find my DAT machine had malfunctioned when I returned, so I missed a couple of Peel shows, though I now have the tracklists from the website. What was the Pilote session like? Cheers! Rocker rockerq@... From sam.gilbert@... Thu Aug 24 12:15:15 2000 From: sam.gilbert@... (Sam Gilbert) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:15:15 +0100 Subject: hefner Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000824111515.00b34b90@...> Hello, Is there anyone who recorded last night's show with hefner that could send me a copy? I've got a cd of the last time they were on the programme if anyone wants to trade. thanks, Sam ----------------------------------------------- Sam Gilbert Institute of Cognitive Neuroscience University College London 17 Queen Square London WC1N 3AR Tel: 020 7391 1170 Fax: 020 7813 2835 E-mail: sam.gilbert@... ------------------------------------------------ From martinw@... Wed Aug 30 18:47:46 2000 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:47:46 +0100 Subject: Let Joy Be Unconfined Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000830174724.00a927c0@...> Thursday of next week John's show is preempted for a 3 hour Gilles Peterson live show I can't wait! martinw