From jmsmall@... Sun May 2 14:31:58 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 13:31:58 +0100 Subject: Oh CB Do A Tap Dance For Me Message-ID: <76369.48.205.959309995@...> El Oso wrote: > Don is relaxed and down-to-earth, and John sounds like he is about 17 > and very mellooow, man. You can say that again... why does this clip play at half speed in my realplayer? Tigs -- jmsmall@... From jmsmall@... Tue May 4 15:01:04 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:01:04 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.49.206.959309995@...> Can anyone tell me when the Clinic Peel session was broadcast last year? Tigs -- jmsmall@... From bsuga@... Wed May 5 11:03:29 1999 From: bsuga@... (Neil Brazier) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:03:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Low Session Message-ID: <76369.50.207.959309995@...> Can anyone tell me the date that the Low session is to be broadcast, I think someone may have mentioned it before? Ta, Neil. From xrayboy@... Wed May 5 22:06:31 1999 From: xrayboy@... (El Oso) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:06:31 -0400 Subject: Peel Pix Old And New Message-ID: <76369.50.208.959309995@...> There's a Daily Mirror Picture Archive with some goofy old pix of JP at http://www.mirrorpix.com/cgi-bin/webdriver?MIval=mirrorpix_search&searchstring=john+peel&searchtype=BOOLEAN_SEARCH&advanced_search=false&BEGIN=1 From martinw@... Thu May 6 00:17:16 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:17:16 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.50.209.959309995@...> Itgs enquired >Can anyone tell me when the Clinic Peel session was broadcast last year? 31-3-98 martinw From Stephen_J._Wood@... Wed May 5 19:52:05 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood@... (Stephen_J._Wood@...) Date: 05 May 1999 17:52:05 GMT Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.50.210.959309995@...> Hi, Stig (&everyone else!) Here's the info on that 1st Clinic Session (from my extensive minidisc catalogue): Clinic 1st Sess 1st B'cast 31/03/98 Tracks: Lester Young Eddie's snowman Cutting grass Daddy Hope this helps! Cheers! Rocker, rocker@... From jmsmall@... Thu May 6 01:10:49 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:10:49 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.50.211.959309995@...> Martin Wheatley wrote: > Itgs enquired That's Gits to you Gits -- jmsmall@... From jmsmall@... Thu May 6 13:47:16 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:47:16 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.51.212.959309995@...> "Stephen J. Wood" wrote: > Here's the info on that 1st Clinic Session (from my extensive minidisc > catalogue): > > Clinic > 1st Sess > 1st B'cast 31/03/98 > > Hope this helps! Whoops I forgot to say thanks for the info Rocker and Martin. Time for a new Clinic session I think. Gits -- jmsmall@... From martinw@... Thu May 6 22:34:38 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:34:38 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.51.213.959309995@...> >Here's the info on that 1st Clinic Session (from my extensive minidisc >catalogue): >Clinic >1st Sess >1st B'cast 31/03/98 >Tracks: >Lester Young >Eddie's snowman >Cutting grass >Daddy >Rocker, 2nd session I think. There was one on 16-2-97 martinw From jmsmall@... Fri May 7 00:00:55 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:00:55 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.51.214.959309995@...> Martin Wheatley wrote: > >Clinic > >1st Sess > 2nd session I think. There was one on 16-2-97 No I don't think so, Clinic didn't exist then. It could have been a repeat of the session they did as Pure Morning which was first broadcast in August 96 Stig -- jmsmall@... From culhanee@... Fri May 7 14:40:45 1999 From: culhanee@... (dodge from grange) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:40:45 BST Subject: Re; Peel Pix Old And New Message-ID: <76369.52.215.959309995@...> > From: El Oso > > There's a Daily Mirror Picture Archive with some goofy old pix of JP at > > http://www.mirrorpix.com/cgi-bin/webdriver?MIval=mirrorpix_search&searchstring=john+peel&searchtype=BOOLEAN_SEARCH&advanced_search=false&BEGIN=1 > > Do the pictures appear as tiny grainy black + white shots for everyone? Also whats the idea behind the webpage, are you supposed to buy the pictures or something? I think goofy is a suitable word. Also someone posted here about a Peel Beefheart interview on the web, I can't listen to anything here in college and I was wondering is there anyway of downloading just some of the real audio file? Its only a bit bigger than the capacity of a floppy disk. If I could download some of it onto a disk I could bring it home and listen to it there. Kevin. From Stephen_J._Wood@... Fri May 7 20:10:17 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood@... (Stephen_J._Wood@...) Date: 07 May 1999 18:10:17 GMT Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.52.216.959309995@...> Hi, All! Martin Wheatley wrote: > >Clinic > >1st Sess > 2nd session I think. There was one on 16-2-97 Stig replied: >No I don't think so, Clinic didn't exist then. It could have been a >repeat of the session they did as Pure Morning which was first broadcast >in August 96 Looking back into my archive I think you are right, Martin! Though I don't remember the session, and it can't have made a great impression, as I don't have it on tape or disc. Funny, seeing as how good the later stuff is, also the Pure Morning stuff! Does anyone have a tracklist for that older session? Perhaps Uncle John should consider repeating it, "Clinic Night" anyone? Enjoyed the Cinerama JPLS last night, weird to hear "Crusoe" without the TV theme sample! Worked OK with the flute, though! Cheers! Rocker, rocker@... From martinw@... Sun May 9 23:20:17 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:20:17 +0100 Subject: Re; Peel Pix Old And New Message-ID: <76369.53.217.959309995@...> Kevin wrote >Do the pictures appear as tiny grainy black + white shots for >everyone? I haven't been there but the usual thing with thumbnails is to click on them and you get bigger versions which you can save. The grainy b & w is the way newspaper tabloid pictures were in those days >Also whats the idea behind the webpage, are you supposed to buy >the pictures or something? It's probably just an archive for reference purposes >Also someone posted here about a Peel Beefheart interview on the >web, I can't listen to anything here in college and I was wondering >is there anyway of downloading just some of the real audio file? Its >only a bit bigger than the capacity of a floppy disk. If I could >download some of it onto a disk I could bring it home and listen to >it there. There do exist some 'unofficial' progs for capturing streamed audio and video but you aren't supposed to do it for copyright reasons and none of the standard progs let you. So the answer is probably no! martinw From martinw@... Sun May 9 23:28:47 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:28:47 +0100 Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.53.218.959309995@...> Martin Wheatley wrote: >> >Clinic >> >1st Sess >> 2nd session I think. There was one on 16-2-97 Stig replied: >>No I don't think so, Clinic didn't exist then. It could have been a >>repeat of the session they did as Pure Morning which was first broadcast >>in August 96 >Looking back into my archive I think you are right, Martin! Though I don't >remember the session, and it can't have made a great impression, as I don't >have it on tape or disc. Funny, seeing as how good the later stuff is, also >the Pure Morning stuff! I don't know enough about the group to have made this up. If I have it down as Clinic its because thats how Peel introduced it It's definitely a different session to the 96 Pure Morning. More introspective and longer >Does anyone have a tracklist for that older session? Sorry I don't store song titles on sessions and I'm not that familiar with their stuff so I can't help martinw From xrayboy@... Mon May 10 18:59:53 1999 From: xrayboy@... (Bad Puppy) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:59:53 -0400 Subject: Re; Peel Pix Old And New Message-ID: <76369.54.219.959309995@...> >>Also someone posted here about a Peel Beefheart interview on the >>web, I can't listen to anything here in college and I was wondering >>is there anyway of downloading just some of the real audio file? Yes, you "download" it to a cassette deck with the "record" light on. I can attest it works quite well! tom From dan_jc@... Tue May 11 09:36:34 1999 From: dan_jc@... (Dan Chapman) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sonicsubjunkies Message-ID: <76369.55.220.959309995@...> Finally got a copy of molotov lounge. Worth the wait though excellent album I would recomend any noise lover. Laters Dan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From martinw@... Tue May 11 21:13:12 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:13:12 +0100 Subject: Re; Peel Pix Old And New Message-ID: <76369.55.221.959309995@...> >>Also someone posted here about a Peel Beefheart interview on the >>web, I can't listen to anything here in college and I was wondering >>is there anyway of downloading just some of the real audio file? Bad Puppy replied >Yes, you "download" it to a cassette deck with the "record" light on. I can attest it works >quite well! I bow to an expert :-) martinw From sepheri@... Wed May 12 15:10:43 1999 From: sepheri@... (Em Sepheri) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:10:43 GMT Subject: Welcome to peel@onelist.com Message-ID: <76369.56.222.959309995@...> Does anyone have any info on a track that was played on Peel's show recently. It's by a band called Cuban boy (I think) and it samples the Hamster dance tune......... SEPHERI From Les_Miller@... Wed May 12 15:23:02 1999 From: Les_Miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:23:02 +0100 Subject: Welcome to peel@onelist.com Message-ID: <76369.56.223.959309995@...> Yes, it's by The Cuban Boys and it's called something like 'Cognoscenti v Intelligensi'. As far as I know it is a radio only CD. "Em Sepheri" on 12/05/99 14:10:43 Please respond to peel@onelist.com Sent by: "Em Sepheri" To: peel@onelist.com cc: (Les Miller/GB/3Com) Subject: Re: [peel] Welcome to peel@onelist.com From: "Em Sepheri" Does anyone have any info on a track that was played on Peel's show recently. It's by a band called Cuban boy (I think) and it samples the Hamster dance tune......... SEPHERI ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! From smchugh@... Wed May 12 16:14:39 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:14:39 +0100 Subject: Welcome to peel@onelist.com Message-ID: <76369.56.224.959309995@...> More Cuban Boys stuff on the web - go to http://come.to/robots, or directly to the Cuban Boys interview at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/1472/cuban-int.html finally, what appears to be their own site at http://www.cubans.freeserve.co.uk/ as Les says however, no sign of the Hamster tune... Stuart >Yes, it's by The Cuban Boys and it's called something like 'Cognoscenti v >Intelligensi'. As far as I know it is a radio only CD. >From: "Em Sepheri" > >Does anyone have any info on a track that was played on Peel's show >recently. It's by a band called Cuban boy (I think) and it samples the >Hamster dance tune......... >SEPHERI From culhanee@... Wed May 12 16:34:54 1999 From: culhanee@... (dodge from grange) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:34:54 BST Subject: clinic session Message-ID: <76369.56.225.959309995@...> > From: Martin Wheatley > > > Martin Wheatley wrote: > >> >Clinic > >> >1st Sess > >> 2nd session I think. There was one on 16-2-97 > > Stig replied: > >>No I don't think so, Clinic didn't exist then. It could have been a > >>repeat of the session they did as Pure Morning which was first broadcast > >>in August 96 > > > >Looking back into my archive I think you are right, Martin! Though I don't > >remember the session, and it can't have made a great impression, as I don't > >have it on tape or disc. Funny, seeing as how good the later stuff is, also > >the Pure Morning stuff! > > I don't know enough about the group to have made this up. If I have it down > as Clinic its because thats how Peel introduced it > > It's definitely a different session to the 96 Pure Morning. More > introspective and longer > Are Clinic the EXACT same band as Pure Morning or is there some difference in personel. Was the name change purely a "making a new start" thing? Kevin. **************************************************** My address has changed to dodgefromgrange@... From robfleay Wed May 12 20:22:24 1999 From: robfleay (R Fleay) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:22:24 +0000 Subject: Welcome to peel@onelist.com Message-ID: <76369.56.226.959309995@...> > From: "Les Miller" > > Yes, it's by The Cuban Boys and it's called something like 'Cognoscenti v > Intelligensi'. As far as I know it is a radio only CD. They sent a promo CD to Peel, who has been playing it loads. From what I hear they are now being courted by the majors (sniffing a novelty smash hit) in much the same way that White Town were when Radcliffe was plugging Your Woman. We offered to put out the Hamster Dance track on AAS but the Cuban Boys are pretty hopeful that they can fleece EMI or someone. I certainly hope they do - and they've promised to wear AAS t-shirts on TOTP In the meantime the Cuban Boys remix of Wandrin' All-stars single comes out on 12" red vinyl - June 14th on AAS (also featuring a remix by Jyoti of White Town) ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From annie.oleary@... Wed May 12 19:27:28 1999 From: annie.oleary@... (Annie O'Leary) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:27:28 +0100 Subject: Welcome to peel@onelist.com Message-ID: <76369.56.227.959309995@...> Evening All, Hate to boast, but we got our copy from the band and the track is "Cognoscenti Vs Intelligensia" from the forthcoming album, "Blaspheming Our Way To Redemption" on Org. We don't know when the album will be out, that's becuase the Cubans don't know either. If anyone wants a (rough) sample of a few tracks from the album send a C30 & sae to: Un-Peeled 2 Eagle Road, Rye, East Sussex, TN31 7NB U.K Cheers, Shane At Un-Peeled -----Original Message----- From: Em Sepheri [SMTP:sepheri@...] Sent: 12 May 1999 14:11 To: peel@onelist.com Subject: Re: [peel] Welcome to peel@onelist.com From: "Em Sepheri" Does anyone have any info on a track that was played on Peel's show recently. It's by a band called Cuban boy (I think) and it samples the Hamster dance tune......... SEPHERI ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! From kimhl@... Fri May 14 14:21:13 1999 From: kimhl@... (Kim Harrison-Lavoie) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:21:13 +0000 Subject: Peel Sessions Live! Message-ID: <76369.57.228.959309995@...> Hello Dave I've sent your tape off at last. You should have it by tomorrow. Sorry for the delay! Kim On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 20:43:18 +0100 Dave Moore wrote: > From: Dave Moore > > Dear All > > Was working Thursday night and didn't manage to organise to > get the PJ Harvey/Peel broadcast taped. If anyone could > help out on this I'd be very grateful indeed. > > Cheers > > Dave > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ta Da! Come see our new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: A free email community service ---------------------- Kim Harrison-Lavoie kimhl@... From kimhl@... Fri May 14 14:22:33 1999 From: kimhl@... (Kim Harrison-Lavoie) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:22:33 +0000 Subject: oops! Message-ID: <76369.57.229.959309995@...> Sorry - that last one wasn't meant to go to the list! Kim ---------------------- Kim Harrison-Lavoie kimhl@... From andys@... Mon May 17 10:52:24 1999 From: andys@... (Andy Smith) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:52:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: To Rococo Rot Message-ID: <76369.58.230.959309995@...> I enjoyed the To Rococo Rot session the other night. Can anyone tell me what they've released? Ta andy From Les_Miller@... Mon May 17 11:59:30 1999 From: Les_Miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:59:30 +0100 Subject: Peel-enium Message-ID: <76369.58.231.959309995@...> Listened to the first part of the Peel-enium on Thursday when he played those four records from 1900. This would make a great compilation if someone was prepared to release it. However, it would be a bit of nightmare trying to find copyright owners from all those years ago! From robfleay Mon May 17 20:20:59 1999 From: robfleay (R Fleay) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:20:59 +0000 Subject: Peel-enium Message-ID: <76369.58.232.959309995@...> > Listened to the first part of the Peel-enium on Thursday when he played those > four records from 1900. This would make a great compilation if someone was > prepared to release it. However, it would be a bit of nightmare trying to find > copyright owners from all those years ago! copyright will have expired on songs from 1900 - if I recall copyright lasts 60 years or summat? ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From keith@... Mon May 17 19:45:38 1999 From: keith@... (Keith Hawley) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:45:38 +0100 Subject: Peel-enium Message-ID: <76369.58.233.959309995@...> >Listened to the first part of the Peel-enium on Thursday when he played those >four records from 1900. This would make a great compilation if someone was >prepared to release it. However, it would be a bit of nightmare trying to find >copyright owners from all those years ago! surely copyright expires after 50 years, no? [is this wrong?] anyway, i MISSED that - can someone describe the music to me? ---------------------------------------- -- keith@... -- ---------------------------------------- From keith@... Mon May 17 19:48:36 1999 From: keith@... (Keith Hawley) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:48:36 +0100 Subject: Peel-enium Message-ID: <76369.58.234.959309995@...> >surely copyright expires after 50 years, no? [is this wrong?] > actually, just thought about that.... it might be 50 years from the writer's DEATH.... hence Happy Birthday still being in copyright.... or whatever........ ---------------------------------------- -- keith@... -- ---------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood@... Sun May 23 12:18:46 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood@... (Stephen_J._Wood@...) Date: 23 May 1999 10:18:46 GMT Subject: Re Fall Sessions Message-ID: <76369.59.235.959309995@...> Hi, all! So that Fall session from last year was great! But is it their 22nd or 23rd? Looking at Ken Garner's "In Session Tonight" book, and my own notes since, I can only find 22 Fall sessions. I'm sure Peel called it their 23rd, so have I missed one somewhere? If anyone has the broadcast information I'd be grateful to receive an email! P.S. I now have lists of every Peel Session broadcast since Ken Garner's book finished in mid-1992. Sadly not quite a substitute for the eagerly anticipated sequel (which of course will probably never appear), but a useful archive nevertheless! If anyone wants a copy, email me off list. It's in the form of several Macintosh WordPerfect documents (one for each year), which I can add as attachments to an email. I can also export it as a WP for windows doc. or a Text Rich Format file (I think!). Cheers, Rocker, rocker@... From dodgefromgrange@... Mon May 24 13:51:47 1999 From: dodgefromgrange@... (Kevin Culhane) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:47 +0100 Subject: re; Fall Sessions Message-ID: <76369.60.236.959309995@...> >P.S. I now have lists of every Peel Session broadcast since Ken >Garner's book >finished in mid-1992. Sadly not quite a substitute for the eagerly >anticipated sequel (which of course will probably never appear), but >a useful >archive nevertheless! > >Cheers, > >Rocker, Why not do the sequel yourself?! Also the real reason behind the mail could someone inform me as to what is the aforementioned peel-ennia, it sounds interesting. Kevin. ********************************** My E-mail address has changed from culhanee@... to dodgefromgrange@... _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com From smchugh@... Mon May 24 14:08:13 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:08:13 +0100 Subject: Peel links, etc Message-ID: <76369.60.237.959309995@...> I just remembered that there's some webspace available to us through the onelist system, for uploading files etc. I've put a html file up at http://www.onelist.com/shareddir/peel/peel.html which contains links to the Festive 50's, the playlist website at Radio 1, some old interviews, plus the links discussed here recently i.e. old pics and RealAudio stuff. No reason why other stuff shouldn't be uploaded if you have some info you want to share... Stuart new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From smchugh@... Mon May 24 14:16:58 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:16:58 +0100 Subject: Peelennium Message-ID: <76369.60.238.959309995@...> >Also the real reason behind the mail could someone inform me as to what is >the >aforementioned peel-ennia, it sounds interesting. The Peelennium thing is basically Peelie playing (and the Pig announcing) 3 or 4 tracks from each year this century, on every show until the end of the year/millennium - presumably they should get to 1999 roundabout Dec 30th or so. He said recently that they have every year up till 1950 or so planned out (presumably because they only have 3 or 4 records from each of these years available to them!). On a similar note, I noted that one of the music mags - I've completely forgotten which one, but it could be either Record Collector or Mojo? - has a listing of 'key' records from every year of the century in its current issue. (I guessed Mojo as I was browsing it in Menzies, no I DID NOT buy a copy - anyway, it also has a feature this month on the wackiest figures in pop, such as Captain Beefheart, Arthur Lee, Mansun and Dave Lee Travis). Stuart new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From jmsmall@... Mon May 24 15:16:26 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:16:26 +0100 Subject: Peelennium Message-ID: <76369.60.239.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > (I guessed Mojo as I was browsing it in Menzies, no I DID NOT buy a copy - > anyway, it also has a feature this month on the wackiest figures in pop, > such as Captain Beefheart, Arthur Lee, Mansun and Dave Lee Travis). Mansun? Why those crazy kids... Stig PS. and DLT was just a tosser -- jmsmall@... From kenandmagda@... Tue May 25 01:46:52 1999 From: kenandmagda@... (kenandmagda@...) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:46:52 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.60.240.959309995@...> Dear fellow Peel listeners, Stuart McHugh of Jockrock has just today brought this list to my attention and I have signed up immediately. My name is Ken Garner, and a few years ago I wrote a book called IN SESSION TONIGHT ((BBC Books, 1993) about the history of Radio 1 sessions, including the Peel Sessions. I have been listening to Peel on and off since 1975. I am 39 years old. The book was remaindered in 1995 but I think some of you know of it from comments made in mailings just today. What am I doing these days? Am I doing a sequel? First, my day job is I'm a lecturer in the Department of Language and Media at Glasgow Caledonian University, where I teach a bit of broadcasting history and other not-so-interesting stuff, but I do give a MUSIC option every other year. I started this job two months before IN SESSION TONIGHT came out. Before then I'd been a freelance journalist since 1988, and before that worked as a financial reporter in London (I teach business journalism on our postgrad diploma in journalism). But I still am a freelance, in a way: from Oct 1993 to December 1997 I was radio critic of the Scotsman's Sunday newspaper, Scotland on Sunday; and since January 1998 I've been radio critic of the Sunday Express, and I do daily previews in the daily Express as well. But I don't mention Peel's show too often - it'd get a bit obvious and boring. My brief is to review all national UK radio. The paper is better than it was two years ago but it is still far more conservative overall than the Daily paper, which is now quite Blairite middle-market under Rosie Boycott - in one bound the paper leapfrogged the Mail into the middle of the political spectrum! Of course, I would say this, wouldn't I, but I think you'd be surprised by how at-times right-on and entertaining the Daily Express is now, if you, like me, remember it's rabid Thatcherite years. Second question: no, what with my current academic and journalistic commitments, I am not working on a sequel right now. One or two producers at Radio 1 have made encouraging noises, but I've explained that I'd need six months, a publisher, and guaranteed access - and in the Producer-choice era BBC, all that would cost, and I'm not sure the BBC would be willing to pay - don't get me wrong, it's not ME they'd have to pay, I'd do it for expenses if I could get the time off teaching - I mean one BBC department would have to physically pay all the archive depts for me to go in and use them. In the old days of 1991-92 I just walked in and showed my pass, sat down and plugged in my laptop and opened the files and started typing the data in. No more, alas. Anyway, it's not impossible sometime, just don't hold your breath. To be honest, given efforts and enthusiasms of people like you I'm sure an update of another 7-8 years worth would be a lot easier. Also Phil Lawton, R1 archivist, has a tickety-boo thorough contemporary cataloging system. If it ever happens, any help or checks members of this list might be able to help me with will be fully acknowledged in print. I must admit, that given the range of listening I am obliged to do these days professionally as it were, I tend to miss Peel more often than I catch him. But I will certainly be taping Wednesday night's BBC MUSIC LIVE 99 gig from Glasgow School of Art, with the Delgados and High Fidelity. In fact, as it's just up the road, I'll be there in person. Peel and Sheila (The PIg) arrived in Glasgow this afternoon after a brief holiday driving around Argyll - his first in six years. Tomorrow night's and Thursday's show come live from BBC Radi o Scotland's studios. Anita the producer arrives in town tomorrow. He's pre-recording his R4 Home Truths show in Glasgow on Thursday too. He'll also be a guest on Fred McAuley's Radio Scotland show (8.45am) tomorrow (Tues). I only know all this because he phoned me up at 7pm and me and my wife Magda and I have just had a curry with them at Mother India. Before this all gets too creepily name dropping, I should add that I haven't seen John since his 30th aniversary on Radio 1 celebration at the ICA in October 1997, and we maybe exchange a brief phone call 2 or 3 times a year. It's hardly showbiz luvvie stuff, honest. He also was completely unaware I was writing for the Sunday Express. So I needn't have said those nice things after all! I did tell him tonight I gave HOME TRUTHS a bit of stick for getting so many Sony Radio Award nominations, which he took like a man. Anyway, this has gone on far too long. I'm looking forward to what everyone has to say about the show these days. I've not even been to Radio 1 since they moved from Egton House to Yalding House 2 years ago, and Simon Garfield's [my opposite number, radio critic now of the Mail on Sunday] hilarious book THE NATION'S FAVOURITE gives a very good picture of the Bannister years (1993-1998), whereas mine stopped at the end of the Johnnie Beerling era, pre-Birt really. But anything useful I feel that I can offer to our discussions, I shall, Yours sincerely, Ken Garner PS. I do not use emoticons. I do English. It's what I know. PPS. Has there been discussion earlier in the list about the "whites-only playlist" allegations made so erroneously in the Guardian and Independent earlier this year? Journalists, eh? I wouldn't trust them From kenandmagda@... Tue May 25 11:11:52 1999 From: kenandmagda@... (kenandmagda@...) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:11:52 +0100 Subject: Apologies Message-ID: <76369.61.241.959309995@...> Dear all, Apologies, Peel wa snot on Fred MacAulay (Radio Scotland) this morning, I must have got the wrong end of the stick at our chat last night. Sorry, Ken From smchugh@... Tue May 25 11:39:11 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:39:11 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.242.959309995@...> A big peel@onelist.com welcome to Ken. Any other newcomers? List traffic has been quietish recently, the students must be off (again), or something. What with Tom's tales of dinner at Peel Acres it looks like the list will soon be a combination of personal friends and stalkers of the man. (See you all at the Art School tomorrow night; I'll be the one lurking in the bushes). >He'll also be a guest on Fred McAuley's Radio Scotland show (8.45am) >tomorrow (Tues). As you said, he wasn't; I shall tune in tomorrow as, well, you never know. >PPS. Has there been discussion earlier in the list about the "whites-only >playlist" allegations made so erroneously in the Guardian and Independent >earlier this year? Journalists, eh? I wouldn't trust them There was a discussion somewhere but I'm not sure if it was on this list (this list possibly started out after that). I never saw the article but a brief synopsis from someone else suggested that this was something of a non-story, a journo trying desperately to get some column inches by well, basically lying. Was this separate to the Julie Burchill thing where she criticised him for something else tenuous, like being old ? Stuart new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From dan_jc@... Tue May 25 12:17:04 1999 From: dan_jc@... (Dan Chapman) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Daisy Chainsaw Message-ID: <76369.61.243.959309995@...> Anybody out there in peel-list land like em (daisy chainsaw that is) Well I had an exlusive listen to the new album over the weekend(as my mate was assistant engineer on the recording session) very good it is too! A single is due to be released in the next couple of weeks and the album follows later in the year. Laters Dan. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kimhl@... Tue May 25 13:43:11 1999 From: kimhl@... (Kim Harrison-Lavoie) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:43:11 +0000 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.244.959309995@...> On Tue, 25 May 1999 00:46:52 +0100 Ken Garner and Magda Pieczka wrote: > Stuart McHugh of Jockrock has just today brought this list > to my attention and I have signed up immediately. My name > is Ken Garner, and a few years ago I wrote a book called IN > SESSION TONIGHT ((BBC Books, 1993) about the history of > Radio 1 sessions, including the Peel Sessions. I have > been listening to Peel on and off since 1975. I'd be curious to know what everyone's top 5 favourite Peel sessions are, especially those people who have been listening as long as you have. > > PS. I do not use emoticons. I do English. It's what I know. :o( > > PPS. Has there been discussion earlier in the list about > the "whites-only playlist" allegations made so erroneously > in the Guardian and Independent earlier this year? > Journalists, eh? I wouldn't trust them Only briefly. I know that certain types of music such as Hip Hop don't get played heavily on his programme, but I don't think that justifies an accusation of racism. Kim ---------------------- Kim Harrison-Lavoie kimhl@... From jmsmall@... Tue May 25 14:10:01 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:10:01 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.245.959309995@...> Kim Harrison-Lavoie wrote: > > PS. I do not use emoticons. I do English. It's what I know. > > :o( Damn! She beat me to it! :( > > PPS. Has there been discussion earlier in the list about > > the "whites-only playlist" allegations made so erroneously > > in the Guardian and Independent earlier this year? > > Journalists, eh? I wouldn't trust them > > Only briefly. I know that certain types of music such as > Hip Hop don't get played heavily on his programme, but I > don't think that justifies an accusation of racism. Yeah, I never read the article but from what Peelie was saying about it himself on his programme I think it suggested that in his old age he has stopped championing "black" music (whatever the hell that is) and tending towards the white skinny middle-class indie-kids. In which case it was clearly written by someone who doesn't listen to his programmes, seeing as there's rarely a show goes by without some reggae-ish stuff. That kind of lazy journalism does not help to convince me that the majority of journalists in this country even in so-called quality papers are not worthless slimey scumsucking lazy slags. Oops present company excepted. Stig -- jmsmall@... From jmsmall@... Tue May 25 14:11:44 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:11:44 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.246.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > What with Tom's tales of dinner at Peel Acres it looks like the list will > soon be a combination of personal friends and stalkers of the man. (See you > all at the Art School tomorrow night; I'll be the one lurking in the > bushes). He's the one that looks like the Fonz... and if you're lucky he'll buy you a drink (thanks, Stuart) Stig -- jmsmall@... From smchugh@... Tue May 25 15:12:00 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:12:00 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.247.959309995@...> >I'd be curious to know what everyone's top 5 favourite Peel >sessions are, especially those people who have been >listening as long as you have. Are we havinga vote? Who's volunteering to count? It's a tricky one, that's for sure. I'd need to look at the book(!) I reckon or go through my tape collection but perceptions of a session would change over time - for a new band it might seem like the most startling thing you've ever heard on first broadcast, but if you listened to it now it might sound not much different from the album the tracks eventually appeared on. The sessions of most 'value' over time would be the ones which were radically different from recorded versions of the tracks played. One which comes to mind is perhaps the 3rd Fall session, purely for the fact that the lp version of 'New face in Hell' has a really irritating kazoo on it, whereas the session used keyboard and which didn't annoy the nads off me. What else? I have a old 'Scotch' tape which has very hissy sessions by the Visitors, plus a very (at the time) new band called Pulp. I loved the tracks on that session though the band seemed to have no particular style or direction, and all the tracks from that are still unreleased, preseumably because everyone else thought they were rubbish. And finally, that recurring question: whatever happened to the Cherry Blades? Stuart new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From kimhl@... Tue May 25 17:31:30 1999 From: kimhl@... (Kim Harrison-Lavoie) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:31:30 +0000 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.248.959309995@...> On Tue, 25 May 1999 14:12:00 +0100 Stuart McHugh wrote: > From: Stuart McHugh > > >I'd be curious to know what everyone's top 5 favourite Peel > >sessions are, especially those people who have been > >listening as long as you have. > Are we havinga vote? Who's volunteering to count? I didn't intend to make it such a formal process. Perhaps it would work better if people just named some memorable sessions without having to go through the trouble of ranking them in order of preference, etc. A couple of years ago there was a Number One Cup session which to me sounded much better than any of their recorded or live stuff that I had heard - much more like OTC. If it was ever repeated I missed it. Does anyone remember this, or better yet, did anyone tape it? I wonder if I would still find it as good as I did when I first heard it. Cheers, Kim From keith@... Tue May 25 19:09:12 1999 From: keith@... (Keith Hawley) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:09:12 +0100 Subject: delgados/hifi Message-ID: <76369.61.249.959309995@...> any of the glasgow contingent (stuart? ken?) going to the john peel night at the art school. i just got a ticket today (having been told NINE WEEKS ago it was completely sold out!!) so i might see you there..............!!! ---------------------------------------- -- keith@... -- ---------------------------------------- From smchugh@... Tue May 25 19:32:04 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:32:04 +0100 Subject: delgados/hifi Message-ID: <76369.61.250.959309995@...> >any of the glasgow contingent (stuart? ken?) going to the john peel night >at the art school. I'll be there (as discussed); I think Ken will also be there, though he may be in the Green Room where red wine and pakora will doubtless be on the rider. >i just got a ticket today (having been told NINE WEEKS ago it was >completely sold out!!) This was apparently a misprint in The List - though if that was the case then the people in the ticket centre must have also been reading this rather than looking at their computer screens. That's what Steven Chemikal said anyway, he'll be there too I'm sure. > >so i might see you there..............!!! I'll be wearing my 'Prozak for lovers' T-shirt, shouldn't be too many of them to wade through... (I'll also have a white carnation, just in case). Stuart new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From martinw@... Tue May 25 22:05:38 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:05:38 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.251.959309995@...> Welcome to the list Ken. I am sure we all have and admire your book >PPS. Has there been discussion earlier in the list about the "whites-only >playlist" allegations made so erroneously in the Guardian and Independent >earlier this year? Journalists, eh? I wouldn't trust them I think most people did their best to try and ignore the Guardian's spate of Peel-bashing which also happened on certain Internet lists I am not convinced if it is true that Peel plays less black than he used to. I think it's more a case of people remembering what they wanted to remember It seems to come from those spurious reminiscences in the infamous Burchill article where she seems to have listened to a different Peel prog than I remember and I've been listening since pirate ship days It seems to me that even if it were true there is a perfectly good justification for it anyway. In so far as Peel has a brief it must be to mostly play what other people aren't playing. Up until fairly recently there weren't too many black music progs on Radio 1. Now there are so it's perfectly logical for Peel to play less of it martinw From martinw@... Tue May 25 22:07:14 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:07:14 +0100 Subject: Hey Stig! Message-ID: <76369.61.252.959309995@...> Hey Stig Now Ken has joined there are now three Peel superstars on the list (you, Tom and Ken) You're outnumbered! martinw From robfleay Wed May 26 00:01:48 1999 From: robfleay (R Fleay) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:01:48 +0000 Subject: Daisy Chainsaw Message-ID: <76369.61.253.959309995@...> > From: Dan Chapman > > Anybody out there in peel-list land like em (daisy chainsaw that is) > Well I had an exlusive listen to the new album over the weekend(as my > mate was assistant engineer on the recording session) very good it is > too! A single is due to be released in the next couple of weeks and the > album follows later in the year. Is this a joke? Weren't Daisy Chainsaw a poor man's Transvision Vamp? Surely to god they haven't reformed? ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From robfleay Wed May 26 00:11:30 1999 From: robfleay (R Fleay) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:11:30 +0000 Subject: fave sessions Message-ID: <76369.61.254.959309995@...> One of the first sessions I ever heard was by a band called The Capitols and it was absolutely great but they were never heard of again. I guess it was about 1987...I've got Ken's book downstairs but I can't be bothered to check. Recent faves have been Godspeed You Black Emperor & Scractch Perverts ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From jmsmall@... Tue May 25 23:40:23 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:40:23 +0100 Subject: Hey Stig! Message-ID: <76369.61.255.959309995@...> Martin Wheatley wrote: > Now Ken has joined there are now three Peel superstars on the list > (you, Tom and Ken) > > You're outnumbered! Eh? Does this mean anything? Not that I wouldn't be the first to doubt your insanity, Martin. Or something. I've never met the great man but can console myself with the fact that I have met the Fonz. Or was that Stuart? I'm not sure. Hehhhhh Stig -- jmsmall@... From mattow@... Tue May 25 19:37:35 1999 From: mattow@... (Matt Watkinson) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:37:35 +0100 Subject: Hello from new list member Message-ID: <76369.61.256.959309995@...> >A couple of years ago there was a Number One Cup session >which to me sounded much better than any of their recorded >or live stuff that I had heard - much more like OTC. If it >was ever repeated I missed it. Does anyone remember this, or >better yet, did anyone tape it? I wonder if I would still >find it as good as I did when I first heard it. > >Cheers, > >Kim Yes Kim I have it on tape. Mail me offlist and i'll send you a copy. Matt From keith@... Wed May 26 04:02:47 1999 From: keith@... (Keith Hawley) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:02:47 +0100 Subject: fave sessions Message-ID: <76369.61.257.959309995@...> one session that sticks in my mind was the one where The Smiths played "How Soon Is Now?" for the first time - which seemed like such an out-of-character song, a radical departure, adventurous exploration of sound... (i THINK the others that night were "William" "Rusholme Ruffians" and ???) Years later, I remember them doing a fantastically wonderful motorheadish version of "London," the memory of which the record never quite lived up to...... The early P J Harvey stuff was astonishing. And from the same era (early 90s) i remember an great sesh from Cud (!) whose albums were terribly bland, and a band called Terminal Hoedown (possibly on the same night?). I've always enjoyed Half Man Half Biscuit and Ivor Cutler sessions.... but i find The Fall so patchy i could never get excited about theirs. Wedding Present Sessions always seemed much better than their records, puzzlingly. The Magic Of Radio Perhaps, or Rosy Tinted Nostalgia... I'm not nearly as obsessive as some at recording stuff so most of these i haven't had the chance to compare properly... anyone know anything about Terminal Hoedown?? ---------------------------------------- -- keith@... -- ---------------------------------------- From dan_jc@... Wed May 26 09:13:41 1999 From: dan_jc@... (Dan Chapman) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Daisy Chainsaw Message-ID: <76369.61.258.959309995@...> --- R Fleay wrote: > From: "R Fleay" > > > From: Dan Chapman > > > > Anybody out there in peel-list land like em (daisy > chainsaw that is) > > Well I had an exlusive listen to the new album > over the weekend(as my > > mate was assistant engineer on the recording > session) very good it is > > too! A single is due to be released in the next > couple of weeks and the > > album follows later in the year. > > Is this a joke? Weren't Daisy Chainsaw a poor man's > Transvision Vamp? Surely to god they haven't > reformed? > > Each to there own Rob if we all liked the same bands and had the same opinions life would be a tad boring! But please don't tell me the list turns into a school yard slanging match if someone on the list mentions a band that other members do not like. But constructive criticism and light friendly banter is welcomed I'm sure. Laters Dan PS what was wrong with Transvision Vamp anyway!!!!! PPS I'm joking or am I? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com From annie.oleary@... Wed May 26 09:27:09 1999 From: annie.oleary@... (Annie O'Leary) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:27:09 +0100 Subject: Daisy Chainsaw Message-ID: <76369.62.259.959309995@...> Morning All, The only problem with T.Vamp was that Wendy was always far more Jeanette Krankie than Marc Bolan. Cheers, Shane At Un-Peeled -----Original Message----- From: Dan Chapman [SMTP:dan_jc@...] Sent: 26 May 1999 08:14 To: peel@onelist.com Subject: Re: [peel] Daisy Chainsaw From: Dan Chapman --- R Fleay wrote: > From: "R Fleay" > > > From: Dan Chapman > > > > Anybody out there in peel-list land like em (daisy > chainsaw that is) > > Well I had an exlusive listen to the new album > over the weekend(as my > > mate was assistant engineer on the recording > session) very good it is > > too! A single is due to be released in the next > couple of weeks and the > > album follows later in the year. > > Is this a joke? Weren't Daisy Chainsaw a poor man's > Transvision Vamp? Surely to god they haven't > reformed? > > Each to there own Rob if we all liked the same bands and had the same opinions life would be a tad boring! But please don't tell me the list turns into a school yard slanging match if someone on the list mentions a band that other members do not like. But constructive criticism and light friendly banter is welcomed I'm sure. Laters Dan PS what was wrong with Transvision Vamp anyway!!!!! PPS I'm joking or am I? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! From dan_jc@... Wed May 26 09:53:09 1999 From: dan_jc@... (Dan Chapman) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.62.260.959309995@...> Well in recent months Appliance sticks out in my mind Hefner's gospel one as well. From year past a Silverfish session. A thought what actual makes a good session is it for instance: a band you have not heard before and here a session then go out and buy a record/cd etc or is it a favourite band doing something different? well the floor is open so opinions and thoughts are gratefully received. Laters Dan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com From smchugh@... Wed May 26 11:13:35 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:13:35 +0100 Subject: Fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.62.261.959309995@...> I thought that Daisy Chainsaw had got rid of the singer? Is the new stuff a departure from the old, which, well, let's say I wasn't too keen on? Found an old session tape this morning, with Cabaret Voltaire, the Scars, Van der Graaf and Bill Nelson. That must have been a good year, whatever it was. Probably the most unlikely session I ever heard was A Sudden Sway's first one. This is almost indescribable, but it's 2 'pieces' which must have taken a lot of mind-expanding drugs to write, kind of Blue Peter meets Rip Rig and Panic. The session that made most impact for me at the time was probably the This Heat one from 1978 or so, (though in fact the album was much better) - I had to listen under the bedclothes, not because I was supposed to be asleep, but because "Fall of Saigon" was a terrifying piece of music to a 3-year-old. I'm sure this has had an influence on my listening habits, though I am now capable of coming out from under the covers. Stuart PS All this 'Fonz" stuff is untrue, it's like one of those urban myths. Keith, you can recognise me as looking more like Chairman Mao. new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From andys@... Wed May 26 11:17:49 1999 From: andys@... (Andy Smith) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:17:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sessions Message-ID: <76369.62.262.959309995@...> Kim: > I'd be curious to know what everyone's top 5 favourite Peel > sessions are I'd be hard pushed to name a top 5 but the ones that stay in my mind are the bands I've never heard/heard of before. Moonshake comes to mind as a session that grabbed me instantly and a band I've liked ever since, especially the verion of Mugshot Heroine with Margaret on vocals, and also the recent Boards of Canada session, (although not such an instant response at least I got a chance to make my mind up about the band based on more than just one track). And, as someone mentioned, all those early PJ Harvey sessions... I vaguely remember a magical night in the early 80's where both the Smiths and Cocteau Twins were in session on the same night - can this really be true? And around the same time was a Higsons session that I still have on a very poor quality tape somewhere, which is probably not a great session but at the time was probably the only way I could afford to hear the band recorded. Ken: >> PPS. Has there been discussion earlier in the list about the "whites-only >> playlist" allegations made so erroneously in the Guardian and Independent Like Stuart I can't remember whether it was actually on this list. I think Julie Burchill was happy to add it to her anti-Peel evidence although it seemed to originate elsewhere in the Guardian. It's such nonsense, given the amount of black music Peel plays from the 20's up to the present (be it blues, r'n'b, soul, African, rap), and especially given the amount of complaining I did in the mid-80's when he seemed to play nothing but rap. AndyTBTG From robfleay Wed May 26 20:53:15 1999 From: robfleay (R Fleay) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:53:15 +0000 Subject: fave sessions Message-ID: <76369.62.263.959309995@...> > The early P J Harvey stuff was astonishing. And from the same era (early > 90s) i remember an great sesh from Cud (!) whose albums were terribly > bland, and a band called Terminal Hoedown (possibly on the same night?). Terminal Hoedown was Robert Lloyd was it not - he of The Nightingales, later Robert Lloyd and The New Four Seasons. I was only thinking about him the other day. Didn't he used to run In-Tape back when indie labels were indie labels. eeeeee....June Brides, Ted Chippington...now then. > I've always enjoyed Half Man Half Biscuit and Ivor Cutler sessions.... but The latest mojo has an old interview with Viv Stanshall - which reminded me how great all his old Rawlinson End sessions were in terms of utter mental-ness ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From smchugh@... Thu May 27 10:53:12 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:53:12 +0100 Subject: fave sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.264.959309995@...> >Terminal Hoedown was Robert Lloyd was it not - he of The >Nightingales, later Robert Lloyd and The New Four Seasons. >I was only thinking about him the other day. Didn't he used >to run In-Tape back when indie labels were indie labels. >eeeeee....June Brides, Ted Chippington...now then. Ah, and of course the Prefects before that (I have a single of 'Going Through the Motions' which I think actually came from the Peel session. And I assume that Fuzzbox were on InTape too, there was nearly an (indie) hit single with some sort of Chippington/Fuzzbox single that had "Rocking With Rita" on it. Stuart Paraphrasing Ted Chippington: "Haven't seen you for a while, Ted." "Yeah, just back from 'Nam" "Vietnam?" "Nah, Cheltenham". From Les_Miller@... Thu May 27 11:02:46 1999 From: Les_Miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:02:46 +0100 Subject: fave sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.265.959309995@...> And don't forget: This drug addict comes up to me and says "I'm addicted", so I says, yes you probably are. (read as "I'm a dick Ted). Stuart McHugh on 27/05/99 09:53:12 Please respond to peel@onelist.com Sent by: Stuart McHugh To: peel@onelist.com cc: (Les Miller/GB/3Com) Subject: Re: [peel] fave sessions From: Stuart McHugh >Terminal Hoedown was Robert Lloyd was it not - he of The >Nightingales, later Robert Lloyd and The New Four Seasons. >I was only thinking about him the other day. Didn't he used >to run In-Tape back when indie labels were indie labels. >eeeeee....June Brides, Ted Chippington...now then. Ah, and of course the Prefects before that (I have a single of 'Going Through the Motions' which I think actually came from the Peel session. And I assume that Fuzzbox were on InTape too, there was nearly an (indie) hit single with some sort of Chippington/Fuzzbox single that had "Rocking With Rita" on it. Stuart Paraphrasing Ted Chippington: "Haven't seen you for a while, Ted." "Yeah, just back from 'Nam" "Vietnam?" "Nah, Cheltenham". ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. From andys@... Thu May 27 12:50:21 1999 From: andys@... (Andy Smith) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:50:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.266.959309995@...> young Stuart wrote: > Found an old session tape this morning, with Cabaret Voltaire, > the Scars, Van der Graaf and Bill Nelson. Was that Be-bop Deluxe era Bill Nelson, Red Noise or even later? I wasn't aware of any sessions but I'd have been a bit young myself. > The session that made most impact for me at the time was probably > the This Heat one from 1978 or so, (though in fact the album was > much better) - I had to listen under the bedclothes Which reminds me of my first experience of dub - imagine the sound quality, that throbbing bass pounding out of my tinny transistor radio speaker (or possibly even one of those mono earphone thingies). AndyTBTG From smchugh@... Thu May 27 13:12:48 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:12:48 +0100 Subject: fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.267.959309995@...> ol' Andy spake: >Was that Be-bop Deluxe era Bill Nelson, Red Noise or even later? >I wasn't aware of any sessions but I'd have been a bit young myself. My old granda used to sing me 'Ships in the Night' as he bounced me on his knee. I did warn him he'd put his back out as I was 32, and 16 stone at the time. The Bill Nelson session was post-Red Noise, in fact I think that this was something that Bill recporded in his own studio (the Echo Observatory, fact fans) and passed onto Peelie as a bona-fide session - one of very few not actually recorded at a BBC studio. (There's actually quite a good book which lists all the recording venues etc, dunuo if you've seen it). On the Bill Nelson session was amongst others, 'Rooms With Brittle Views' which came out on Crepescule just after 'Do You Dream in Colour', which might help date it. The thing was eventually released as a fanclub e.ep. Not that I'm a Bill Nelson completist or anything (too expensive). > >> The session that made most impact for me at the time was probably >> the This Heat one from 1978 or so, (though in fact the album was >> much better) - I had to listen under the bedclothes > >Which reminds me of my first experience of dub - imagine the sound >quality, that throbbing bass pounding out of my tinny transistor radio >speaker (or possibly even one of those mono earphone thingies). It's a shame there have been so few reggae sessions on the show (even though John always makes up for it in record airplay, in case someone from the Guardian is reading). He said in an interview once that the reggae people had a habit of not being all that bothered about doing sessions, as if they didn't care too much about national airplay etc. Stuart From kenandmagda@... Thu May 27 14:03:36 1999 From: kenandmagda@... (kenandmagda@...) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:03:36 +0100 Subject: Glorious Nights Message-ID: <76369.63.268.959309995@...> Andy Smith and Stuart McHugh's comments on remembering glorious nights of sessions has prompted me to let you know about an occasional service I might be able to offer long-standing listeners. As a by-product of my research for my book INSESSION TONIGHT, I produced four copies only of an 80 page confidential document which I called the PEELOGRAPHY. Working from programme scripts, John Walters' & Mike Hawkes' scheduling wall-charts, and session sheets, this is a complete chronology of every show presented by Peel on Radio 1 from 1.10.67 to 26.9.92. It lists sessions, repeats, interviews, Live/festival O/Bs, concerts, specials, but NOT normally the records (that would have been very hard and made it a hugely unwieldy document - however, I do possess my print-outs of the complete running orders of every show from 67 to June 1978 used for my book - somewhere in a box in the attic!). Well, I say complete, but there are some gaps in the years 1978-1992 (like, for example, Monday 26 March 1984 - Thur 29 March 1984: anyone know?). I have one copy, Peel has the second, Radio 1 archivist Phil Lawton has the third, and the fourth is in the National Sound Archive, the audio department of the British Library, St Pancras, London - which, in case you didn't know, has been taping Peel representatively once or twice a month since the late 70s. You can't take stuff out, but you can write and make an appointment to listen to stuff (records, radio) but only if you can tell them EXACTLY what you're looking for, of course. Also, their open-access reference library is a great place to look up old music papers and discographies etc. If this fires you up, write to Andy Linehan, Popular music curator. A top man. Anyway, I expect with help from the rest of you I could update this PEELOGRAPHY for 1992-1998. I know some of you will have kept Peel diaries (Stephen Wood???), as I did for certain periods (me: 76-78, 84-87; 90-92). If people posted fragmentary diaries to the list (say March-May 1996, for example) I could pull them all together over time to form our own little resource and contribution to broadcasting history. All contributions acknowledged of course, etc. But, for the moment: Andy: ****Monday 28th May 1984 (Whitsun Bank Holiday night) Radio 1, 10pm-midnight: ****Repeats of Cocteau Twins first session and The Smiths first session, and repeat of Smiths session two. Possibly pre-taped for holiday reasons (the use of three, not two sessions, in a two-hour show marks it out as highly unusual). Is that the one? Ken PS. Magda and I were only at the Art School last night for the Delgados set, which kicked off at 9.50pm and must have finished about 10.45pm. We'd had a long day including a distressing funeral for a dear close friend and needed our beds. The broadcast sets, of course, were time-shifted and edited-in to the show. As Magda said, the Delgados, at their best, do make a "nice noise" (They appeared to have added keyboards as well as the strings and flute for the gig). Someone I didn't recognise in my tired state said hello to me. Sorry if it was one of you. Ken Garner & Magda Pieczka 39 Camphill Avenue Glasgow, G41 3AX, United Kingdom Tel/Fax/Ans: -44-(0)141-636 0302 Ken's Work Tel: -44-(0)141-331 3258 Lecturer, Department of Language and Media, Glasgow Caledonian University, G4 0BA, UK e-mail: K.Garner@... Magda's Work Tel: -44-(0)1786-466222 Lecturer, Department of Film and Media Studies, Stirling University, FK9 4LA, UK e-mail: magda.pieczka@... "To be happy at home is the ultimate result of all ambition" ~ Samuel Johnson, Rambler 68, Saturday 10th November 1750. From jmsmall@... Thu May 27 13:58:05 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:58:05 +0100 Subject: fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.269.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > My old granda used to sing me 'Ships in the Night' as he bounced me on his > knee. > I did warn him he'd put his back out as I was 32 Have you been getting comedy tips from Lee and Herring, Stuart? And then I got off the bus ah > It's a shame there have been so few reggae sessions on the show (even > though John always makes up for it in record airplay, in case someone from > the Guardian is reading). I particularly liked the way Peel responded to that article when he was talking about it on his programme: "Some of my friends even know some black people" Stig -- jmsmall@... From smchugh@... Thu May 27 16:05:40 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:05:40 +0100 Subject: How Radio works Message-ID: <76369.63.270.959309995@...> Wasn't me who said hello to Ken last night, never saw him or Keith there... anyway, just thought it was quite interesting to hear the Delgados going out 'live' in the car on the way home... in fact Alan, who was with me, set his timer to tape the show live and therefore missed it (anyone have a tape of either set?) Anyway, the Hi-fi were onstage from 8.30 - 9.10 or so, the Delgados from 9.40 - 10.45. Don't know if the Hi-Fi had a full set broadcast but I hope they got the last 'Bollywood' number (and Sean's marriage proposal!) broadcast. the Delgados were pretty good, though the technical hitches were edited out (Emma announced a song as "Dead Air" which fooled a few people, however, I spotted that this was a joke for those in the know, having generated more dead air in a limited number of radio shows than the Delgados could imagine in their worst nightmares...). There were 3 new songs aired in total, the rest of the set would have been from Peloton apart from 13 Gliding Principles, but again, I don't know what you all heard. Sound was pretty good in the venue I though, though Keith reckoned it was a bit boomy. On Ken's document of all the shows, I suppose I should mail him about it, but I just wondered if there was any way to put the thing on the website as PDF or something. Though he described it as 'confidential', mind you... would save us going to the National Sound Archive mind you... Cheers Stuart From Les_Miller@... Thu May 27 16:09:11 1999 From: Les_Miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:09:11 +0100 Subject: How Radio works Message-ID: <76369.63.271.959309995@...> Yep, the marriage proposal went out on air. Stuart McHugh on 27/05/99 15:05:40 Please respond to peel@onelist.com Sent by: Stuart McHugh To: peel@onelist.com cc: (Les Miller/GB/3Com) Subject: [peel] How Radio works From: Stuart McHugh Wasn't me who said hello to Ken last night, never saw him or Keith there... anyway, just thought it was quite interesting to hear the Delgados going out 'live' in the car on the way home... in fact Alan, who was with me, set his timer to tape the show live and therefore missed it (anyone have a tape of either set?) Anyway, the Hi-fi were onstage from 8.30 - 9.10 or so, the Delgados from 9.40 - 10.45. Don't know if the Hi-Fi had a full set broadcast but I hope they got the last 'Bollywood' number (and Sean's marriage proposal!) broadcast. the Delgados were pretty good, though the technical hitches were edited out (Emma announced a song as "Dead Air" which fooled a few people, however, I spotted that this was a joke for those in the know, having generated more dead air in a limited number of radio shows than the Delgados could imagine in their worst nightmares...). There were 3 new songs aired in total, the rest of the set would have been from Peloton apart from 13 Gliding Principles, but again, I don't know what you all heard. Sound was pretty good in the venue I though, though Keith reckoned it was a bit boomy. On Ken's document of all the shows, I suppose I should mail him about it, but I just wondered if there was any way to put the thing on the website as PDF or something. Though he described it as 'confidential', mind you... would save us going to the National Sound Archive mind you... Cheers Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. From smchugh@... Thu May 27 16:28:26 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:28:26 +0100 Subject: fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.272.959309995@...> >Have you been getting comedy tips from Lee and Herring, Stuart? Yes, that was rather poor, I apologise (there must be a version of "You're Hard" due which swaps Lee and Herring for "Lenny Henry") >And then I got off the bus ah However, you have been taking sentence-construction tips from Mark E. Smith, and I claim my five pounds. I feel I should say something about music, but all I can come up with is this doggone classic sessions thread - so, does remember Big Flame giving "Wake Me Up Before You Go-go" a well-deserved kicking? Seminal! Stuart new for Spring, Jock Box Jury features sound clips and reviews of Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Rev. Corps of Teenage Jesus, BOWS, and a load more: http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/jockrock/records/records.html From jmsmall@... Thu May 27 16:57:16 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:16 +0100 Subject: fav sessions Message-ID: <76369.63.273.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > >Have you been getting comedy tips from Lee and Herring, Stuart? > Yes, that was rather poor, I apologise (there must be a version of "You're > Hard" due which swaps Lee and Herring for "Lenny Henry") No, Lee and Herring are geniuses of our time, I was referring to their "lazy comedy slags" section where they expose poor joke formulas such as "...and they were just the teachers ah", "...I was 28 years old ah" and the classic "...and then I got off the bus ah". Peel once mentioned them in his column if that gives it any relevance... Actually does anyone remember that week or two when Peel was standing in for Mark Radcliffe and had Stewart Lee and Richard Herring as guests for one night? What an excellent week of programmes that was (in fact I think he did it twice)... > >And then I got off the bus ah > However, you have been taking sentence-construction tips from Mark E. > Smith, and I claim my five pounds. I am curious alien-ah Stigglepops -- jmsmall@... From smchugh@... Thu May 27 19:34:55 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:34:55 +0100 Subject: Delgados last night - pix Message-ID: <76369.63.274.959309995@...> In case you care (no pix of Peel here sadly, as the camera went flaky at the crucial moment). http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk/live/delhifi.html S From p_p_pete@... Thu May 27 21:44:16 1999 From: p_p_pete@... (pete flynn) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:44:16 PDT Subject: Digest Number 61 Message-ID: <76369.63.275.959309995@...> >Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:01:48 +0000 > From: "R Fleay" >Subject: Re: Daisy Chainsaw > > > From: Dan Chapman > > > > Anybody out there in peel-list land like em (daisy chainsaw that is) > > Well I had an exlusive listen to the new album over the weekend(as my > > mate was assistant engineer on the recording session) very good it is > > too! A single is due to be released in the next couple of weeks and the > > album follows later in the year. > >Is this a joke? Weren't Daisy Chainsaw a poor man's >Transvision Vamp? nah...aren't the official holders of "poor man's Transvision Vamp" the 20th Century Girls..? anyway i used to love TV...i was 7, and i had a crush on Wendy James, but yeah. i WAS 7, honestly.. oh and favourite peel sessions, i have a memory like a torn teabag which isn't good news for next month. but the one when Mogwai did "Don't Cry" was particularly special. i also concur with what Rob said about that Godspeed one; and with Keith too on the subject of the early PJ Harvey ones, which i mostly remember cos it was about when i started listening to Peel...i had the 4 Track Demos cd on yesterday, some of those tracks are frighteningly raw... pete From andys@... Fri May 28 12:22:57 1999 From: andys@... (Andy Smith) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:22:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Glorious Nights Message-ID: <76369.64.276.959309995@...> Thanks to Ken: > ****Monday 28th May 1984 (Whitsun Bank Holiday night) Radio 1, > 10pm-midnight: ****Repeats of Cocteau Twins first session and The Smiths > first session, and repeat of Smiths session two. That'd be right. A special night for me as I was getting very excited about anything the Cocteaus did at that time and was just getting to like the Smiths again after loving the early singles and hating their live set (first album tour, I think - for me they were blown away by the Red Guitars who were supporting that night). > Anyway, I expect with help from the rest of you I could update this > PEELOGRAPHY for 1992-1998. I know some of you will have kept Peel > diaries Not me, sadly. I only have my (ahem) radio compilations, undated but I might be able to guess. For me it's always been purely about the music although I do enjoy a bit of supporting information (if pushed I could probably still recite all the info on the labels of the first few Stranglers singles but we won't go into that). But this reminds me, 1992-ish being approximately the year I was able to start making decent quality tapes, the (first?) Stereolab session was amazing (Superelectric, Changer, Doubt, and another one - Difficult 4th Title? see I can almost remember all the titles without thinking about it, THAT's how much impact it made). It's on the Too Pure Peel sessions album and it's excellent. I should get that album. Back to the present, I heard a bit of Tuesday's show in the car and there's a new Clinic session due in July. Will I get kicked off the list if I say their new single sounds a bit 70's and even a bit like Gomez? AndyTBTG From andys@... Fri May 28 12:25:15 1999 From: andys@... (Andy Smith) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:25:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Glorious Nights Message-ID: <76369.64.277.959309995@...> I almost forgot, Ken said: > National Sound Archive, the audio department of the British Library, > St Pancras, London - which, in case you didn't know, has been taping > Peel representatively once or twice a month since the late 70s. Now THAT'd be interesting to hear. How about a Radio 1 (or perhaps Radio 2 these days) Peel retrospective series? Andy From p_p_pete@... Fri May 28 23:24:25 1999 From: p_p_pete@... (pete flynn) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:24:25 PDT Subject: Digest Number 63 Message-ID: <76369.64.278.959309995@...> > Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:16 +0100 > From: Stig >Subject: Re: fav sessions > > >Stuart McHugh wrote: > > >Have you been getting comedy tips from Lee and Herring, Stuart? > > Yes, that was rather poor, I apologise (there must be a version of >"You're > > Hard" due which swaps Lee and Herring for "Lenny Henry") > >No, Lee and Herring are geniuses of our time, I was referring to their >"lazy comedy slags" section where they expose poor joke formulas such as >"...and they were just the teachers ah", "...I was 28 years old ah" and >the classic "...and then I got off the bus ah". Peel once mentioned them >in his column if that gives it any relevance... > >Actually does anyone remember that week or two when Peel was standing in >for Mark Radcliffe and had Stewart Lee and Richard Herring as guests for >one night? What an excellent week of programmes that was (in fact I >think he did it twice)... i remmeber that...they were hilarious, i must admit, thery were causing a bit of trub and ended up with everyone there in stitches, Peel had to turn their mic off for a while so he could play some records... aaaahh the days of the Radcliffe graveyard show... pete "consider the lily..." From mozy@... Sat May 29 19:12:03 1999 From: mozy@... (mozy) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:12:03 +0100 Subject: Hey Stig! Message-ID: <76369.65.279.959309995@...> Martin Wheatley wrote: > > Hey Stig > > Now Ken has joined there are now three Peel superstars on the list > (you, Tom and Ken) > > You're outnumbered! > Oi! What about me? Maureen the prospective adopted daughter from Edinburgh From daniel@... Sun May 30 19:47:12 1999 From: daniel@... (daniel@...) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:47:12 +0100 Subject: Daisy Chainsaw Message-ID: <76369.66.280.959309995@...> I loved the early stuff by DC like Love your money !!! Never quite the same since I saw them at Canterburys best gig emporium, The Penny Theatre !! Shame really, but I'll be looking out for the single and album then, just out of curiosity. Daniel. Let@s hope it doesn't kill the cat ! I suppose it could be named Daisy Chainsaw. In message <19990525101704.11563.rocketmail@...>, Dan Chapman writes >From: Dan Chapman > >Anybody out there in peel-list land like em (daisy chainsaw that is) >Well I had an exlusive listen to the new album over the weekend(as my >mate was assistant engineer on the recording session) very good it is >too! A single is due to be released in the next couple of weeks and the >album follows later in the year. > >Laters Dan. >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: bringing the world together. >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today! -- Bernard From martinw@... Sun May 30 17:22:09 1999 From: martinw@... (Martin Wheatley) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:22:09 +0100 Subject: Hey Stig! Message-ID: <76369.67.281.959309995@...> Martin Wheatley wrote: >> >> Hey Stig >> >> Now Ken has joined there are now three Peel superstars on the list >> (you, Tom and Ken) >> >> You're outnumbered! >> >Oi! What about me? >Maureen >the prospective adopted daughter from Edinburgh True, now he's even more outnumbered!