The Times 7/8 John Peel's Home Truths has attracted awards - and criticism
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Subject: The Times: Features:Having me on Radio 4 offends people John Peel's Home Truths has attracted awards - and criticism. Interview by Grace Bradberry
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John Peel's Home Truths has attracted awards - and criticism.
Interview by Grace Bradberry
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Still a Radio 1 DJ at nearly 60, but John Peel has stopped playing
hip-hop because "it became so absurdly sexist. I just can't tolerate
that kind of stuff on the radio"
Photograph: FINDLAY KEMBER
Having me on Radio 4 offends people
John Peel's lugubrious voice, edged with anxiety, drifts down into the
kitchen. "Pi-ig! Pig? - Sheila? Where are my trousers?" He has gone
upstairs to change, leaving me with his wife Sheila - nicknamed "Pig"
on account of the way she snorts when she laughs - and his son
William, 23, who is regaling us with a tale of a visit to the doctor
for a leg injury sustained while strawberry picking.
It should come as no surprise that the Ravenscrofts (Peel's real name)
are unselfconscious about their domestic life. After all, many of the
more intimate details have already been shared with the listeners of
Home Truths, Peel's increasingly popular Radio 4 show. We know about
his children's messy bedrooms, about the way in which Sheila sleeps
with her husband wrapped around her. The Ravenscrofts' domestic life
is as familiar as that of Pat and Tony Archer's and there is a kind of
theme-park treat element to being invited to their home. "Good grief,
they're real!" you think, as you become a bit-part player in their
family life.
This inclusivity is the secret of Home Truths, which deals with
everything from the minutiae of domestic life - neighbours who vacuum
the grass verge - to how to stop a young boy whose father has died
from worrying about such adult matters as the house insurance. The
extraordinary is teased from the ordinary. We hear about the listener
with a phobia about buttons, and the father who told his son that if
he unscrewed his belly button, his bottom would fall off. No matter
how bleak the interview, Peel somehow finds a moment of levity.
The programme triumphed at the recent Sony Radio Awards, winning
three, including Sony Broadcaster of the Year for Peel. Last year he
was appointed OBE. He has also been voted Melody Maker's top DJ for 11
years in a row, and received NME's Godlike Genius Award.
By the time I meet him, however, he has become defensive. His innocent
Saturday morning show has attracted flak and some of it has been
friendly fire. Andy Kershaw, a friend and Radio 1 colleague, has
called Home Truths, "a lot of old piffle" and described it as
"cloying, sentimental and indulgent". John Walters, his former
producer and the best man at his wedding, has expressed bewilderment
at Peel's wanting to "talk to people who call their fridge
Renfrewshire". Julie Burchill, horrified by his espousal of family
values, has dubbed him the "Schoolgirl's Friend", dredging up the fact
that in his twenties Peel unwittingly married a 15-year-old.
Perhaps his critics are simply blown away by the infuriating flukiness
of a man remaining a cult Radio 1 DJ at nearly 60, then popping up on
Saturdays as a wry, jocular Radio 4 presenter. Which is the real Peel
and which an invention? Peel the anti-pseud is suddenly under
investigation. The onslaught has been a nasty shock. "When I was
working away on Radio 1 - which I'd been doing since the reign of
Queen Anne - people didn't listen but kind of felt that it was morally
correct. If I got any press at all, it was 'Good old John Peel'. But
getting on to Radio 4 seems to offend people more.
"I was depressed - these are supposed to be my mates. Sheila talked me
down because I was very incensed. When Walters came on the phone I
said '**** him, I don't want to speak to him' but Sheila said 'No, I
think you need to speak to him'."
"The other thing that really p***** me off was people saying that I
operated a whites- only music policy" (another Burchill allegation).
"For a family that got death threats, which I took seriously enough to
have police advice, to be told that you're running a racist music
policy was a bit much." He has stopped playing hip-hop because "it
became so absurdly sexist. I said 'My wife's a woman, my mother's a
woman, two of my children are about to be women [his daughters
Alexandra and Flossie] and I just can't tolerate that kind of stuff on
the radio'." Family values again.
Such is his sensitivity to these attacks that he now consciously
rations the personal anecdotes on Home Truths. "I'm on my guard. It's
changed things a bit. I don't mind getting slagged off, but if they
started turning on the family . . ."
The strange thing about interviewing Peel is that while other
"celebrities" direct the conversation away from personal matters, he
seems to steer it towards them. Unprompted, he mentions his wife's
brain haemorrhage of four years ago, from which she is now fully
recovered, and how it helped him to sort out his priorities. He now
tries to spend as little time as possible away from home, even
presenting his Radio 1 show from Suffolk once a week.
But it is not just the dignified, emotional stuff that comes pouring
out. We have barely met and begun on a tour of Peel Acres, as he
ironically, but accurately, describes his Suffolk home, when he
voluntarily tells of how he once slept with Germaine Greer (before his
marriage to Sheila): "She taught me a very salutary lesson about how
women must feel when men put them under pressure. I found myself
saying things like 'I just want to be friends'."
Once Peel has found his trousers, we go to the pub - he, his wife, his
wife's friend Georgia and myself. The conversation leaps between the
outrageous village anecdote - the woman who celebrated the Silver
Jubilee by dancing on a table without wearing any knickers - and
personal revelations.
A recent Home Truths interview leads to some quite unselfconscious
reflection on the death of his father. "I get more upset now than I
did when he died," he remarks.
"You were very flippant when he died," says Sheila.
"Yeah, rather cruel and awful. It was a long time ago, when we were
first going out, 1971 he died. When I'm having rows with William I try
to look back and I think 'Actually, I was a really shitty son'. There
he was dying and I never went to see him."
"You did, but rarely," puts in Sheila.
Pig and Peel were married in 1974. He describes her as "very much the
fuel on which I run - if I have any confidence, it's largely because
of her.
"Without wishing to sound entirely feeble, when I was 20 I would
scarcely have been able to speak to you. I was amazingly shy and
absolutely terrified of women."
John Robert Parker Ravenscroft was born in August 1939, in an affluent
home on the Wirral. He was brought up by a nanny, did not meet his
father until he was six, was sent to boarding school at seven, then to
Shrewsbury where his father and both grandfathers had been pupils. He
left at 16, drifted through National Service, and would have drifted
for longer had his father not packed him off to America. He worked as
an insurance salesman and programmer in Texas before landing a job in
radio (by now he had modified his clipped vowels into a quasi
Liverpudlian drawl). At the age of 26 he married Shirley, aged 15. "I
was misled, not just by her, but her entire family kind of co-operated
in deceiving me about her age," he says. "Both Shirley's parents died
within a few months of each other and she was going to have to go and
live with uncles she barely knew." They had never had sex, "But we
married as a kind of mutual defence pact." They returned to England
and the marriage broke up. She later served time in Holloway Prison
for a bank fraud. A decade ago she committed suicide.
It seems incomprehensible that Peel, the family man, should have
contracted such an odd union. "Well, when you're 59 you'll look back
on yourself now and think you were a different person. When I talk
about having been in America, I think I'm lying."
He was 35 when he married again, and he and Sheila have deliberately
established a stable family life. "I remember when my parents
divorced, when I was about 16, the way I was obviously saddened and
upset by it, but I was excited by it as well. What upset me most was
having to leave the house.
"We've never moved. When we bought the house we were determined to
live there for the rest of our lives, so in uncertain times there
would be one constant for the children, which in a way was even more
important than us."
Then he tells me what he describes as "a strange story": his father
got back together with a woman whom he'd first met at 16 and to whom
he had once been engaged. Peel's mother formed a relationship with the
actor Sebastian Shaw, who played Luke Skywalker's father in The Return
of the Jedi.
Yet while his parents appear to have sought out excitement and
diversity in later life, Peel is taking the opposite route, except in
his musical tastes. He readily admits that his social life has
narrowed to the point where a neighbour's invitation to dinner is
greeted with huge excitement.
He was, though' once friends with Marc Bolan - until Bolan became
famous and dropped him. Indeed, he claims to have no celebrity friends
until his wife chips in: "We went to tea with Griff."
"Oh yes, Griff Rhys Jones. But only because he had enlisted us to take
part in some fundraising poetry-reading thing."
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