From troche@... Sat Jul 10 06:17:18 1999 From: troche@... (Tom Roche) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:17:18 -0400 Subject: The Times 7/8 John Peel's Home Truths has attracted awards - and criticism Message-ID: <76369.88.342.959309995@...> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Times: Features:Having me on Radio 4 offends people John Peel's Home Truths has attracted awards - and criticism. Interview by Grace Bradberry X-URL: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfeafea02003.html?1026402 Line July 9 1999 FEATURES Line John Peel's Home Truths has attracted awards - and criticism. Interview by Grace Bradberry [INLINE] (c) Still a Radio 1 DJ at nearly 60, but John Peel has stopped playing hip-hop because "it became so absurdly sexist. I just can't tolerate that kind of stuff on the radio" Photograph: FINDLAY KEMBER Having me on Radio 4 offends people John Peel's lugubrious voice, edged with anxiety, drifts down into the kitchen. "Pi-ig! Pig? - Sheila? Where are my trousers?" He has gone upstairs to change, leaving me with his wife Sheila - nicknamed "Pig" on account of the way she snorts when she laughs - and his son William, 23, who is regaling us with a tale of a visit to the doctor for a leg injury sustained while strawberry picking. It should come as no surprise that the Ravenscrofts (Peel's real name) are unselfconscious about their domestic life. After all, many of the more intimate details have already been shared with the listeners of Home Truths, Peel's increasingly popular Radio 4 show. We know about his children's messy bedrooms, about the way in which Sheila sleeps with her husband wrapped around her. The Ravenscrofts' domestic life is as familiar as that of Pat and Tony Archer's and there is a kind of theme-park treat element to being invited to their home. "Good grief, they're real!" you think, as you become a bit-part player in their family life. This inclusivity is the secret of Home Truths, which deals with everything from the minutiae of domestic life - neighbours who vacuum the grass verge - to how to stop a young boy whose father has died from worrying about such adult matters as the house insurance. The extraordinary is teased from the ordinary. We hear about the listener with a phobia about buttons, and the father who told his son that if he unscrewed his belly button, his bottom would fall off. No matter how bleak the interview, Peel somehow finds a moment of levity. The programme triumphed at the recent Sony Radio Awards, winning three, including Sony Broadcaster of the Year for Peel. Last year he was appointed OBE. He has also been voted Melody Maker's top DJ for 11 years in a row, and received NME's Godlike Genius Award. By the time I meet him, however, he has become defensive. His innocent Saturday morning show has attracted flak and some of it has been friendly fire. Andy Kershaw, a friend and Radio 1 colleague, has called Home Truths, "a lot of old piffle" and described it as "cloying, sentimental and indulgent". John Walters, his former producer and the best man at his wedding, has expressed bewilderment at Peel's wanting to "talk to people who call their fridge Renfrewshire". Julie Burchill, horrified by his espousal of family values, has dubbed him the "Schoolgirl's Friend", dredging up the fact that in his twenties Peel unwittingly married a 15-year-old. Perhaps his critics are simply blown away by the infuriating flukiness of a man remaining a cult Radio 1 DJ at nearly 60, then popping up on Saturdays as a wry, jocular Radio 4 presenter. Which is the real Peel and which an invention? Peel the anti-pseud is suddenly under investigation. The onslaught has been a nasty shock. "When I was working away on Radio 1 - which I'd been doing since the reign of Queen Anne - people didn't listen but kind of felt that it was morally correct. If I got any press at all, it was 'Good old John Peel'. But getting on to Radio 4 seems to offend people more. "I was depressed - these are supposed to be my mates. Sheila talked me down because I was very incensed. When Walters came on the phone I said '**** him, I don't want to speak to him' but Sheila said 'No, I think you need to speak to him'." "The other thing that really p***** me off was people saying that I operated a whites- only music policy" (another Burchill allegation). "For a family that got death threats, which I took seriously enough to have police advice, to be told that you're running a racist music policy was a bit much." He has stopped playing hip-hop because "it became so absurdly sexist. I said 'My wife's a woman, my mother's a woman, two of my children are about to be women [his daughters Alexandra and Flossie] and I just can't tolerate that kind of stuff on the radio'." Family values again. Such is his sensitivity to these attacks that he now consciously rations the personal anecdotes on Home Truths. "I'm on my guard. It's changed things a bit. I don't mind getting slagged off, but if they started turning on the family . . ." The strange thing about interviewing Peel is that while other "celebrities" direct the conversation away from personal matters, he seems to steer it towards them. Unprompted, he mentions his wife's brain haemorrhage of four years ago, from which she is now fully recovered, and how it helped him to sort out his priorities. He now tries to spend as little time as possible away from home, even presenting his Radio 1 show from Suffolk once a week. But it is not just the dignified, emotional stuff that comes pouring out. We have barely met and begun on a tour of Peel Acres, as he ironically, but accurately, describes his Suffolk home, when he voluntarily tells of how he once slept with Germaine Greer (before his marriage to Sheila): "She taught me a very salutary lesson about how women must feel when men put them under pressure. I found myself saying things like 'I just want to be friends'." Once Peel has found his trousers, we go to the pub - he, his wife, his wife's friend Georgia and myself. The conversation leaps between the outrageous village anecdote - the woman who celebrated the Silver Jubilee by dancing on a table without wearing any knickers - and personal revelations. A recent Home Truths interview leads to some quite unselfconscious reflection on the death of his father. "I get more upset now than I did when he died," he remarks. "You were very flippant when he died," says Sheila. "Yeah, rather cruel and awful. It was a long time ago, when we were first going out, 1971 he died. When I'm having rows with William I try to look back and I think 'Actually, I was a really shitty son'. There he was dying and I never went to see him." "You did, but rarely," puts in Sheila. Pig and Peel were married in 1974. He describes her as "very much the fuel on which I run - if I have any confidence, it's largely because of her. "Without wishing to sound entirely feeble, when I was 20 I would scarcely have been able to speak to you. I was amazingly shy and absolutely terrified of women." John Robert Parker Ravenscroft was born in August 1939, in an affluent home on the Wirral. He was brought up by a nanny, did not meet his father until he was six, was sent to boarding school at seven, then to Shrewsbury where his father and both grandfathers had been pupils. He left at 16, drifted through National Service, and would have drifted for longer had his father not packed him off to America. He worked as an insurance salesman and programmer in Texas before landing a job in radio (by now he had modified his clipped vowels into a quasi Liverpudlian drawl). At the age of 26 he married Shirley, aged 15. "I was misled, not just by her, but her entire family kind of co-operated in deceiving me about her age," he says. "Both Shirley's parents died within a few months of each other and she was going to have to go and live with uncles she barely knew." They had never had sex, "But we married as a kind of mutual defence pact." They returned to England and the marriage broke up. She later served time in Holloway Prison for a bank fraud. A decade ago she committed suicide. It seems incomprehensible that Peel, the family man, should have contracted such an odd union. "Well, when you're 59 you'll look back on yourself now and think you were a different person. When I talk about having been in America, I think I'm lying." He was 35 when he married again, and he and Sheila have deliberately established a stable family life. "I remember when my parents divorced, when I was about 16, the way I was obviously saddened and upset by it, but I was excited by it as well. What upset me most was having to leave the house. "We've never moved. When we bought the house we were determined to live there for the rest of our lives, so in uncertain times there would be one constant for the children, which in a way was even more important than us." Then he tells me what he describes as "a strange story": his father got back together with a woman whom he'd first met at 16 and to whom he had once been engaged. Peel's mother formed a relationship with the actor Sebastian Shaw, who played Luke Skywalker's father in The Return of the Jedi. Yet while his parents appear to have sought out excitement and diversity in later life, Peel is taking the opposite route, except in his musical tastes. He readily admits that his social life has narrowed to the point where a neighbour's invitation to dinner is greeted with huge excitement. He was, though' once friends with Marc Bolan - until Bolan became famous and dropped him. Indeed, he claims to have no celebrity friends until his wife chips in: "We went to tea with Griff." "Oh yes, Griff Rhys Jones. But only because he had enlisted us to take part in some fundraising poetry-reading thing." Next page: Man on Top - Joe Joseph Arts (Mon - Fri) | Books (Sat) (Thu) | British News | Business | Court page | Features (Mon - Fri) | Go (Sat) | Metro (Sat) | Obituaries | Opinion | Sport | Travel (Sat) (Thu) | Vision (Sat) | Interface (Wed) | Weather | Weekend (Sat) | Weekend Money (Sat) | World News [LINK] Down [LINK] Subscribe to the paper Contact Us [LINK] Next: Man on Top - Joe Joseph Line Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard terms and conditions. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Times, visit the Syndication website. [LINK] Up [LINK] From smchugh@... Mon Jul 19 12:44:12 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:44:12 +0100 Subject: Surf's Up Message-ID: <76369.89.343.959309995@...> Been alarmingly quiet of late, one post over the 2 weeks I've been away (in Cornwall, home of the infrequent surf report). You might have heard my email remarking on our hotelier's habit of blasting us with Fairport Convention over breakfast. Anyway, particularly enjoyed the Dawn of the Replicants session, even if it all was from the lp, and the Peelennium is finally hotting up, what with Louis Armstrong and, er, some blues artistes whose identities I've forgotten. And that's about it for now. Stuart http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk From Les_Miller@... Mon Jul 19 12:40:42 1999 From: Les_Miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:40:42 +0100 Subject: Surf's Up Message-ID: <76369.89.344.959309995@...> I heard that about the hotelier! I also heard Stig's birthday request. Stuart McHugh on 19/07/99 11:44:12 Please respond to peel@onelist.com Sent by: Stuart McHugh To: peel@onelist.com cc: (Les Miller/GB/3Com) Subject: [peel] Surf's Up From: Stuart McHugh Been alarmingly quiet of late, one post over the 2 weeks I've been away (in Cornwall, home of the infrequent surf report). You might have heard my email remarking on our hotelier's habit of blasting us with Fairport Convention over breakfast. Anyway, particularly enjoyed the Dawn of the Replicants session, even if it all was from the lp, and the Peelennium is finally hotting up, what with Louis Armstrong and, er, some blues artistes whose identities I've forgotten. And that's about it for now. Stuart http://www.vacant.demon.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, auctions, and more. Amazon.com! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Stephen_J._Wood@... Tue Jul 20 19:37:12 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood@... (Stephen_J._Wood@...) Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:37:12 GMT Subject: Surf's Up Message-ID: <76369.90.345.959309995@...> I also heard Stig's birthday request. Oh, yeah, Happy Birthday Stig, whenever it was. Did everyone who wanted one get a copy of those Peel Session lists last month? Not sure if they've made it onto Stuart's web page, as my browser tells me it doesn't like cookies or something when I try to access it. (Maybe, like me, it's on a diet). Did anyone work out how many Fall sessions they've done for the Peel show yet? Secret Goldfish session was great! I didn't know their singer was in the Fizzbombs, I'm sure they played Bristol in the mid or late 80's, in fact I think I put them on! Weren't they an offshoot of the much missed Jesse Garon & the Desperados, who pre-empted Belle & Sebastian's sound by a decade!? (and I'm a big B&S fan, btw) (and I mean big!) Cheers, Rocker, rocker@... From smchugh@... Wed Jul 21 10:06:38 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:06:38 +0100 Subject: Surf's Up Message-ID: <76369.90.346.959309995@...> >From: Stephen_J._Wood@... (Stephen J. Wood) > >Did everyone who wanted one get a copy of those Peel Session lists last >month? > >Not sure if they've made it onto Stuart's web page Um, not yet, I've been away for a fortnight. I've added it to the 'to-do' list and will let everyone know when it's up. >Secret Goldfish session was great! I didn't know their singer was in the >Fizzbombs, I'm sure they played Bristol in the mid or late 80's, in fact I >think I put them on! > >Weren't they an offshoot of the much missed Jesse Garon & the Desperados, who >pre-empted Belle & Sebastian's sound by a decade!? (and I'm a big B&S fan, >btw) (and I mean big!) Don't know of a Jesse Garon connection, but the other 'famous' link in the Goldfish is that one member was originally in the Mackenzies (which I'm sure you'll agree is more difficult to hear than their Fizzbombs influence!) Cheers Stuart From robfleay@... Wed Jul 21 19:50:05 1999 From: robfleay@... (Rob Fleay) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:50:05 +0100 Subject: Surf's Up Message-ID: <76369.90.347.959309995@...> > Weren't they an offshoot of the much missed Jesse Garon & the Desperados, I always remember the guitarist from Jesse Garon & The D's appeared on some gameshow like Countdown or something....and the host was like - "so you play in a POP band" really patronising ========================================= robfleay@... http://www.aas.mcmail.com ========================================= From simon@... Thu Jul 22 10:11:24 1999 From: simon@... (simon) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:11:24 +0100 Subject: one from the bottom, two from the top Message-ID: <76369.90.348.959309995@...> yeah, but whiteley patronises everyone... its his job... I also think he'd be genuinely surprised at having a pop person on the show (apart from Rick wakeman) - weren't you? sibe -------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Fleay To: Sent: 21 July 1999 18:50 Subject: Re: Re: [peel] Surf's Up > From: "Rob Fleay" > > > Weren't they an offshoot of the much missed Jesse > Garon & the Desperados, > > I always remember the guitarist from Jesse Garon & The > D's appeared on some gameshow like Countdown or > something....and the host was like - "so you play in a POP > band" really patronising > > ========================================= > robfleay@... > http://www.aas.mcmail.com > ========================================= > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist: your connection to online communities. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From smchugh@... Wed Jul 28 12:56:24 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:56:24 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.349.959309995@...> I was just on the Festive 50 website for some reason (http://web.pncl.co.uk/~rocklist/festive50.htm 1996 is particularly 'interesting!') and was reminded that no-one knows what was broadcast in 1977 - certainly there was no voted F50 and Peel instead played some of his favourites of the year. I was idly curious if any of our older readers could remember what was in the 'chart'? I'm pretty sure that The Motors were at #1 and #3 but that may not be accurate. Given their subsequent demise into the ignominity of the Top 5, it's an interesting thought... Cheers Stuart From jmsmall@... Wed Jul 28 14:16:14 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:16:14 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.350.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > I was just on the Festive 50 website for some reason > (http://web.pncl.co.uk/~rocklist/festive50.htm > 1996 is particularly 'interesting!' You're famous! Stig -- jmsmall@... From smchugh@... Wed Jul 28 15:15:19 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:15:19 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.351.959309995@...> >From: Stig > > >Stuart McHugh wrote: >> I was just on the Festive 50 website for some reason >> (http://web.pncl.co.uk/~rocklist/festive50.htm >> 1996 is particularly 'interesting!' > >You're famous! Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings - I have a few photocopied ones from the late 70's/early 80's - Peel used to send these out to anyone that asked. Go on, make me an offer... anyway, I'm not the only one from this list to get a credit there. Glad to see the Peelennium has livened up a bit now that we're into the 30's - all that music hall stuff was getting on my wick, I don't know how the people of the 20's made it as far as the Depression without topping themselves! Stuart From smchugh@... Wed Jul 28 15:32:53 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:32:53 +0100 Subject: Peel mailing list(s) Message-ID: <76369.91.352.959309995@...> Apologies for the flurry of activity here upsetting your quiet and peace, but on looking at the onelist message centre, I found something rather interesting - there's ANOTHER Peel list been set up! I can't imagine that it's any more vibrant or dynamic than this one, but I can't tell as it's moderated and has no viewable archives. I'm considering subverting them later on, unless anyone here knows what it's like. Maybe one of you set it up? ObMusic/Peel - New Half Man Half Biscuit session to appear in September or thereabouts... Stuart From jmsmall@... Wed Jul 28 17:06:29 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:06:29 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.353.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > >> 1996 is particularly 'interesting!' > > > >You're famous! > Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings Why is 1996 so interesting then? > Glad to see the Peelennium has livened up a bit now that we're into the > 30's - all that music hall stuff was getting on my wick, I don't know how > the people of the 20's made it as far as the Depression without topping > themselves! Possible favourite tracks so far? Mine would be "By the Side of the Seidesee" - forgotten who it's by, 1907-ish, and "Just a Gigolo" from last night's programme. But some of the blues records in recent shows have been just fabby. Stig -- jmsmall@... From smchugh@... Wed Jul 28 17:30:05 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:30:05 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.354.959309995@...> >From: Stig > > >Stuart McHugh wrote: >> >> 1996 is particularly 'interesting!' >> > >> >You're famous! >> Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings > >Why is 1996 so interesting then? Duh - 19-SEVENTY-6 (1976, that is). The first, and last, one to feature a load of hippy shite, or at least until the Stone Roses showed up in the '80's. 1976 has a solitary appearance for Jonathan Richman around 35 or so, and sadly there was no 1977 chart, as previously discussed. Which would have been VERY 'interesting' as the changeover between hippy and punk was in full flow at that time. I don't know why there was no 1977 chart*, but it was probably not anything sinister, more likely a scheduling problem like in the Phantom 50 year. 1978 is also 'interesting' as it sees the aftermath of punk with Led Zeppelin et al descending down the (all-time) chart. Stuart *ok, I'll ask him. Listen out, kids. From Les_Miller@... Wed Jul 28 17:32:10 1999 From: Les_Miller@... (Les Miller) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:32:10 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.355.959309995@...> In the early days of the F50 you could vote for songs from any year. When Peel got fed up with Anarchy In The UK being at number one it was changed to records only from the current year. During the change over both types of F50 were broadcast - I think that was sometime in the early 80's. Stuart McHugh on 28/07/99 16:30:05 Please respond to peel@onelist.com Sent by: Stuart McHugh To: peel@onelist.com cc: (Les Miller/GB/3Com) Subject: Re: [peel] Festive 50 1977 From: Stuart McHugh >From: Stig > > >Stuart McHugh wrote: >> >> 1996 is particularly 'interesting!' >> > >> >You're famous! >> Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings > >Why is 1996 so interesting then? Duh - 19-SEVENTY-6 (1976, that is). The first, and last, one to feature a load of hippy shite, or at least until the Stone Roses showed up in the '80's. 1976 has a solitary appearance for Jonathan Richman around 35 or so, and sadly there was no 1977 chart, as previously discussed. Which would have been VERY 'interesting' as the changeover between hippy and punk was in full flow at that time. I don't know why there was no 1977 chart*, but it was probably not anything sinister, more likely a scheduling problem like in the Phantom 50 year. 1978 is also 'interesting' as it sees the aftermath of punk with Led Zeppelin et al descending down the (all-time) chart. Stuart *ok, I'll ask him. Listen out, kids. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From jmsmall@... Wed Jul 28 21:16:46 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:16:46 +0100 Subject: Peel mailing list(s) Message-ID: <76369.91.356.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > Apologies for the flurry of activity here upsetting your quiet and peace I should think so too! We didn't come here to TALK you know! Don't know about anyone else but I'm here just to sit in the corner with a grumpy expression. > but on looking at the onelist message centre, I found something rather > interesting - there's ANOTHER Peel list been set up! I can't imagine that > it's any more vibrant or dynamic than this one, but I can't tell as it's > moderated and has no viewable archives. I'm considering subverting them > later on, unless anyone here knows what it's like. Maybe one of you set it > up? How exactly do you subvert a list? I've just subscribed. Number of members = 3. The blurble goes: > This is a list for all those who love music! Especially the stuff you > would normally find on Steve Lamaq (hope that's how you spell his name) and > John Peel's radio shows. Those of you familiar with radio one will know who > i mean! My lil list is bascically discussions and shared facts about bands > of indie and obscure rock (found on John Peel's program)! So come...jion > the list...you know you want to realy! ;)...Ah well, i'd best be off now. > Take a care all! :) Tigs -- jmsmall@... From mozy@... Wed Jul 28 21:24:41 1999 From: mozy@... (mozy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:24:41 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.357.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > > Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings - I have a > few photocopied ones from the late 70's/early 80's - Peel used to send > these out to anyone that asked. Go on, make me an offer... anyway, I'm not > the only one from this list to get a credit there. > Glad to see the Peelennium has livened up a bit now that we're into the > 30's - all that music hall stuff was getting on my wick, I don't know how > the people of the 20's made it as far as the Depression without topping > themselves! it's why they called it the Depression ... Maureeb From jmsmall@... Wed Jul 28 22:04:37 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:04:37 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.358.959309995@...> mozy wrote: > > Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings - I have a > > few photocopied ones from the late 70's/early 80's - Peel used to send > > these out to anyone that asked. Go on, make me an offer... anyway, I'm not > > the only one from this list to get a credit there. > > Glad to see the Peelennium has livened up a bit now that we're into the > > 30's - all that music hall stuff was getting on my wick, I don't know how > > the people of the 20's made it as far as the Depression without topping > > themselves! > > it's why they called it the Depression ... > > Maureeb Have you changed your name, Maureeb? Stiz -- jmsmall@... From mozy@... Wed Jul 28 23:11:17 1999 From: mozy@... (mozy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:11:17 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.359.959309995@...> Stig wrote: > mozy wrote: > > it's why they called it the Depression ... > > > > Maureeb > > Have you changed your name, Maureeb? > > Stiz I am Maureeb from the Planet Dweeb ... From smchugh@... Thu Jul 29 10:05:19 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:05:19 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.91.360.959309995@...> >From: Stig > > >mozy wrote: >> > Oh, the credits? I supplied them with some missing F50 listings - I have a >> > few photocopied ones from the late 70's/early 80's - Peel used to send >> > these out to anyone that asked. Go on, make me an offer... anyway, I'm not >> > the only one from this list to get a credit there. >> > Glad to see the Peelennium has livened up a bit now that we're into the >> > 30's - all that music hall stuff was getting on my wick, I don't know how >> > the people of the 20's made it as far as the Depression without topping >> > themselves! >> >> it's why they called it the Depression ... >> >> Maureeb > >Have you changed your name, Maureeb? I think she's just got a cold... don't suppose anyone heard if Peel answered the question about the 1977 F50 on last night's show? I heard most of the shows and he said that there hadn't been any emails (surely not?) I should try to say something about the music but I can't think of anything on last night's show that particularly grabbed me. Though can I just re-iterate - I still don't "get" the Flaming Lips. Stuart From andys@... Thu Jul 29 13:32:28 1999 From: andys@... (Andy Smith) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:32:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.92.361.959309995@...> The Motors in the Festove 50? Sounds a bit rum to me. The Peelennium is definitely picking up. I enjoyed the late 20's extremely up-tempo version of "My baby just cares for me" with "posh" vocal delivery. And the recent blues stuff. Stuart: > I still don't "get" the Flaming Lips Hmm. I love the new LP but don't know their older stuff. The session sounds a bit ropey so far. The new Cinerama single's not bad though, which makes a nice change. Andy From smchugh@... Thu Jul 29 15:59:19 1999 From: smchugh@... (Stuart McHugh) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:59:19 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.92.362.959309995@...> >From: Andy Smith > >The Motors in the Festove 50? Sounds a bit rum to me. Well, that was the Peel-voted-for fill-in for the 'proper' F50, but that said, The Motors themselves were voted in by The Public the following year (albeit in the high 30's) > >The new Cinerama single's not bad though, which makes a nice change. Oh, yes, heard the last minute of that, complete with flute, it was really nice (whaddya mean, "makes a change"?!?!) Course, it's on Acruela or some Spanish label so it will be hard to come by (but a sound investment!) Stuart From lists1947@... Thu Jul 29 17:37:59 1999 From: lists1947@... (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lee=20Pilich?=) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FF/FL Message-ID: <76369.92.363.959309995@...> >don't suppose anyone heard if Peel >answered the question about the 1977 F50 on last >night's show? I heard most >of the shows and he said that there hadn't been any >emails (surely not?) Definately didn't. >I should try to say something about the music but I >can't think of anything >on last night's show that particularly grabbed me. >Though can I just >re-iterate - I still don't "get" the Flaming Lips. I thought that was a great session. The best since that Callexico one (or however you spell it). Tho the last track were a bit dull. And the Peelenium weren't up to much. Give it twenty years... Oh, I'm new here, by the way. Hello everybody. Hello. I'm seeing HMHB and Elastica in the same week next month. And this in York, where no bands ever come, ever. Oh happy day. Week, sorry. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From jmsmall@... Thu Jul 29 18:26:52 1999 From: jmsmall@... (Stig) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:26:52 +0100 Subject: Festive 50 1977 Message-ID: <76369.92.364.959309995@...> Stuart McHugh wrote: > >The new Cinerama single's not bad though, which makes a nice change. > > Oh, yes, heard the last minute of that, complete with flute, it was really > nice (whaddya mean, "makes a change"?!?!) > Course, it's on Acruela or some Spanish label Elefant, and yes it's easily the best thing they've done. Stig -- jmsmall@... From annie.oleary@... Thu Jul 29 19:00:52 1999 From: annie.oleary@... (Annie O'Leary) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:00:52 +0100 Subject: "All Tomorrow's Parties" - FREE PROGRAMME Message-ID: <76369.92.365.959309995@...> ----- Evening all, We are right in the middle of preparing the FREE programme for the All Tomorrow's Parties fest' and part of the workload is interviewing quite a few of the bands on the bill for that event. If there is anything you'd like to ask any of the following bands just e-mail your questions to us at annie.oleary@... and we'll incorporate them into the interview. Arab Strap Blonde Redhead Delgados Gorky's Zygotic Mynci High Llamas Plaid Plone Radar Brothers Salaryman Scott 4 Shack Stereolab Tindersticks Tortoise (one for Andy & Devon?) You can get an advance copy of the free programme for All Tomorrow's Parties by sending an SAE to "You Are Here" c/o Un-Peeled 2 Eagle Rd, Rye, East Sussex, TN31 7NB. Advance copies will be posted on 10th September - a week prior to the event. The programme is FREE because we think that anyone who has paid �100.00 + for the fest' shouldn't be asked to pay for a programme. Up the workers! Shane At Un-Peeled From Stephen_J._Wood@... Thu Jul 29 20:08:07 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood@... (Stephen_J._Wood@...) Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:08:07 GMT Subject: aka Mo Message-ID: <76369.92.366.959309995@...> peel@onelist.com,Internet writes: Have you changed your name, Maureeb? Stiz No, she's just got a really nasty (summer) cold. Rok rocker@... From simon@... Fri Jul 30 10:29:31 1999 From: simon@... (simon) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:29:31 +0100 Subject: my baby got the yips Message-ID: <76369.92.367.959309995@...> ---------- >From: >Date: Thu, Jul 29, 1999, 4:37 pm > > I'm seeing HMHB and Elastica in the same week next > month. And this in York, where no bands ever come, > ever. Oh happy day. Week, sorry. > ____________________________________ Hello - sorry, your details have just been mangled by my system so apologies for not making this more personal... but i noticed you mentioned half man... don't suppose you'd like to contribute a brief review to the Liverpool Now website after you've seen them, would you? (also, generally, if anyone wants to do that for any liverpool/merseyside act, I'd be happy as small dormouse saved by Tommy Archer) http://listen.to/liverpoolnow now@...